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#263: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? Haley, if I have any more fun,
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  well, I just don't know what I'll do.
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  Welcome to What's your least? Yeah.
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  I guess we'll be talking about the good, the bad, the ugly, and
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  the absurd in all of our. Family's.
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  Favorite scary movies? Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has his fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis, my name is
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  Jesse, and it's time, y'all, It's time.
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  This is family, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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  We're officially starting a new franchise and we're starting off
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  with the first one. And I'm going to emphasize this,
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  and it's going to sound silly, but you're going to see over the
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  next year that it's important. This one is the Texas Chain Saw
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  Massacre. The V and the Chain space saw
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  are important title distinctions.
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  I don't understand how or when that happened because I looked
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  things up yesterday. Even on the original script it's
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  all one word. So who fucked that up?
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  I. Somebody did and somebody had to
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  run with it and it's it's listed like that for the rest of time
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  now. I I have, I have no clue.
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  I don't know. I don't know, but I'm excited to
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  talk about it before we do. Brief announcement.
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  Patreon episode should be out by now, and if you want to be a
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  patron, it's not too late. You can follow find the link at
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  the very bottom of our show notes right here and go
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  member, then you can enjoy all of our bonus episodes and
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  participate in voting each month along with them.
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  Seeing our scribbly show notes and getting stickers from Travis
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  for every Texas Chainsaw movie as we go along.
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  Yeah, every franchise. So starting with the cover for
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  this one, you will have a sticker for that.
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  Also voting is for an episode each month.
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  Yep, just to be clear. So you get a pick you gotta say
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  in one of the episodes? Yep, So.
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  So, So those are the things I'm gonna go ahead and shout out.
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  The Patreons real quick, the patrons, the bubbies, if you
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  will. We've got Joe Freakatron, as is
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  his name, Amber, Michael, Lord, Zombie, Tyler, Chad and Johnny.
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  Yeah. Thank you guys.
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  Thank you guys so much. And as our special thank you for
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  being the sponsors of the show. We have your bonus episode out.
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  And what we decided to do was as we're welcoming a new franchise,
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  a new, a new Class, A new cohort, if you will, we do, we
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  want to say goodbye to our graduates and we are, we are
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  assigning characters from the past franchises that we've
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  covered, senior superlatives. Yeah, yeah, it's.
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  What's your least favorite Scary movie High.
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  And they graduated, so come see who won what.
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  Yeah. Yeah, so that's that's
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  available, should be available as of now.
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  Unless you're also taking advantage of the early episode
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  release on the Patreon, then I can't guarantee that it will be
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  out. It'll be out by Thursday for
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  sure. Yeah, and it'll, it'll be out.
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  It should be. Yeah.
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  OK, cool. Well, now that we have that out
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  of the way, how about we get into some Texas Chainsaw
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  Massacre? How about first?
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  We talked about some. Votes for the sadness because
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  Jesse came up with a poll this week.
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  That's right, you did. OK.
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  So we talked about the sadness, as Jesse said, and we just
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  wanted to ask in the sadness, what would your sickness or your
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  disease, your sadness disease? I think you would.
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  How? How does the sadness manifest in
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  you? Yes, because Travis said last
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  week that he wants to see an iteration where monsters like me
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  wait until their phone is at 1% to charge it.
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  And that's what that's how the sadness manifests.
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  That's the generous edition of the Sadness where like, you
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  know, it doesn't get that bad. It gets bad, but it doesn't get
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  under your. Skin.
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  Oh, like I said, it depends on who you are anyways.
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  OK so what's your personal sadness disease?
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  So the option is where you're talking to someone while
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  reading, waiting till below 10% to charge your phone and hentai
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  wallpaper on phone. Hentai boob wallpaper You left
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  out the boob part. This character limits, OK, You
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  got to make cuts where you need to.
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  So talking to somebody who's reading got zero.
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  So thankfully we got none of the businessmen people out there.
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  Thank you. Waiting until below 10% to
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  charge your phone. That's 56% of the people and
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  hentai wallpaper on your phone is 44.
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  Percent. All right, well I already
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  admitted that I am not the phone person and this past week while
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  we were watching a basketball game, you were reading and I
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  didn't celebrate during anything so I was quiet and mindful of
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  that. So I guess I have hentai
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  wallpaper boobs on my phone. Wallpaper boobs.
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  Yes Jesse wallpaper boobs on my phone.
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  I will draw them myself though. That might be weirder.
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  Taking commissions y'all hit me up.
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  Help us do the podcast full time.
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  What about you? I think it's very clear.
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  Minus like waiting to charge, you're a fucking.
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  Yeah, I woke up this morning and my phone was angry at me, so I
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  had to plug it in. Never rarely does my phone get
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  in the red yellow. I put it on the low battery mode
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  and I charge that shit. My last phone update, the last
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  system update. Now instead of giving me an
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  alert at 10%, it gives me an alert at 20% and I feel like it
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  was. Mine does so.
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  I feel like it was a personal update.
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  My phone was like, you've got a you're gonna get better about
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  this. Yeah, it'd be better.
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  OK, cool, Now we can talk about the Texas Chainsaw.
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  Where's your? Chainsaw out what the?
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  Fuck, it's with the cosplay stuff in the bag.
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  I don't want to get that. I was gonna have it out for
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  display where are. You displaying it.
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  On the table for who? For me.
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  It's it's right there. Next question OK, the Texas
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  chainsaw massacre released October 11th 1974.
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  We watched it on our blue way but as of the 22nd of February
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  you can stream it on tubi, Peacock, Pluto TV, Plex prime
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  freebie, YouTube premium, YouTube TV prime time where you
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  can rent it from Google player, Fandango at home.
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  A lot of those streaming services have the free option
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  available like this is an incredibly watchable movie.
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  It's so easy to find. If you guys, if none of you have
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  seen this movie, yeah, watch it. Good.
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  Stop. Go watch it.
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  Yes, absolutely. Watch it.
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  Written by Kim Hinkle and Toby Hooper.
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  Directed by Toby Hooper. Music by Wayne Bell and Toby
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  Hooper. No special effects makeup.
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  Now, I don't know that this was fully special effects or if it
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  was just makeup makeup because they're both listed as makeup.
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  But the first one, four grandfather, that has to be
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  special effects. It was.
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  Yeah. That was WE Barnes.
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  And then we have Dorothy J Pearl.
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  OK, cool. It's a very small team on this.
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  Thing Yes, Yes. Starring Marilyn Burns as Sally,
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  Alan Danziger as Jerry, Paul Apartane as Franklin, William
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  Vale as Kirk, Terry McMahon as Pam, Edwin Neil is the
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  Hitchhiker, Jim C Dow as Old Man, John Dugan his grandfather,
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  and Gunnar Hanson as Leatherface.
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  Did you get the cook? That's the old man.
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  They have him listed as old man. Yeah, that's what they were
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  calling each other when they're doing their Larry Curly MO
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  routine. Oh wow, I would have called him
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  with a cook but. OK, yeah, no, he called him Old
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  Man and we had Hitchhiker and obviously Leatherface.
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  Gotcha. OK.
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  Yeah, yeah. All right, Travis, it's time for
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  our favorite game. Budget or bug, Ted?
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  100% bug. Ted.
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  Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Oh, wait. Hold on, new franchise, we got
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  to explain. Oh, yes, OK, so.
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  You do this every time. If you're new to the show, if
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  Texas Chainsaw caught your eye and this is your first time
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  listening, hi welcome. Sorry that there was a lot of
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  weird stuff before we got into this.
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  If you made it past hentai boobs and you're still here, thank you
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  if. You're here purely for hentai
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  boobs. Well, you know.
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  You know where to find me. So this just started.
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  We read reviews near the end, and somebody had misspelled
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  budget as bug Ted when they were like, this is clearly a very low
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  bug Ted movie. And it tickled us to think that
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  that was like a distinction. That's how low budget it was,
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  that it's Bug Ted. So now that's how we refer to a
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  low budget movie is its Bug Ted. And that for us is in modern
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  times under 10 million. Yeah.
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  And you are correct. It is Bug Ted Bug Teddy Bug
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  Theater Theodore $140,000 which adjusted for inflation is about
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  700,000. Wow.
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  Yeah, you even did the inflation.
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  Look at you. I didn't.
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  I can't take credit for that. That was in an article I read.
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  OK, so I don't have an opening box office, but I do have like
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  the worldwide box office, which was 30.9 million, but adjusted
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  for inflation, got that also 150.8 million.
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  Holy shit. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I was like, I
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  feel like that's a really low number.
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  And then when I read the for inflation, I was like, oh, OK,
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  so in today money it did really good.
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  Yeah. IMDb score ready 7.4.
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  Yeah, yeah, I, I'd almost say rude.
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  It needs to be higher, but that's really good for I and B.
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  Yeah, yeah. OK.
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  I've picked 3 movies from 1974. Now, horror wasn't like, it's
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  not like today where you can easily pull up like several
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  dozen horror movies that came out this year.
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  It's before the big boom. Yeah, and there were a lot of
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  movies from 1974 that I have not seen yet.
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  I say yet because we're always watching more things.
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  That's true. So I picked movies whose
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  headlines sound or whose title sounded like a headline.
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  OK, kind of like the Texas Chainsaw Mass.
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  Yeah. And it which also kind of ties
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  into like the themes of like news that I'm gonna go into that
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  fit in with Texas Chainsaw. Cool.
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  OK, I like this theme. So the first one, it's a
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  werewolf movie. It's called The Beast Must Die.
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  Oh, OK. Which to me sounded like it
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  could be like a satanic panic type of.
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  Yeah, I could see headline. Yeah, yeah.
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  It released in April of 1974. Don't have a date.
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  It's just April, just April. I don't have a budget or World
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  by Gross but it's got a 5.6 out of 10.
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  OK, so good. OK.
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  And it sounded pretty interesting because it was like
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  a bunch of people were invited to a party on a deserted island.
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  One of them's a werewolf. That's a Jessie movie.
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  Yeah, I was like, oh man, It combines a lot of things I
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  really like. You know, let's maybe one day
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  we'll find that one and we'll. Watch him the second one.
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  What have they done to your daughters?
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  Wow, that's guy. That's Jolo written all over.
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  It does and part part way through writing that I was like,
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  I feel like I should just do Jolos.
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  Yeah, plug for the Patreon again.
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  We one time played a game where it was Jolo title or.
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  Jolo or Nolo is what we call it. Yeah, Jolo or Nolo, where Travis
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  like pulled a bunch of Jolo titles but also made a bunch up
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  and I did poorly. It's so they're just so they're
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  the best titles. That one is about, it's really
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  dark. It's about like a human
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  trafficking ring. Oh shit.
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  Yeah. OK, that released August 10th,
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  1974. Don't have a budget or gross for
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  it, but it does it. It is Italian, so it's
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  definitely jealous. Yeah, it's a 6.9 out of 10.
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  Wow. Yeah, so sounds like it was very
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  well received. This last one I had written down
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  after I'd gotten the theme and everything, but I found no
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  information on it so I don't have anything to say so.
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  These are all random. You didn't even get black
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  Christmas. Didn't Black Christmas come up
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  this year? Yeah, but I thought that would
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  be too easy. Yeah, I got you, but this one's
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  called Don't Open the Door. Shallow.
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  I don't know. I don't know.
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  I had such a hard time finding any information about it to the
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  point where I was like, does it exist?
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  And the only thing that came up on IMDb was like a drive in
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  Double. Not the last drive in, but like
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  a drive in Double feature. Yeah.
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  And I, I couldn't find any information about what it's
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  about. I don't have a ranking, nothing.
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  I like the title. Yeah, just.
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  Got me intrigued. Yeah, I was really upset because
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  there were two Andy Griffith horror movies in 1974 and I was
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  like I need a third one. So this thing you can be Andy
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  Griffith. He did have 3 movies that year
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  but one was ATV movie and it was not horror.
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  I would have given you the OK to that cuz that's the horrific
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  part is it wasn't a horror movie and this being so apart.
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  I was like Andy Griffith. That Andy Griffith.
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  Yes, that Andy Griffith. That's I can't believe he was in
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  horror. Jesus, such weird.
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  Yeah, OK, I know we've had a rough time with tag lines
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  lately. Yeah, we are about to be eaten.
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  Good. Oh hell yeah dude, the tag.
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  These are one. There are three on the poster
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  alone. The tag line on the poster is
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  one of my all time favorites. Well, and it's just, it is, it
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  is iconic, Yeah. Who will survive and what will
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  be left of them? So fucking good Texas Chainsaw
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  Massacre. Who will survive and what will
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  be left? Of them, some additional tag
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  lines that are on that poster. If you look, there's a American
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  because most bizarre and brutal crimes with an exclamation point
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  and then A dot dot dot dot dot dot.
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  Dot dot. OK.
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  And then what happened is true. Now the motion picture that's
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  just as real. Oh cool.
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  And now I've got a bunch of tag lines.
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  Some of these are from like re releases of the movie.
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  Yeah, that kind of happens. Yeah, the idyllic summer's day
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  that became a nightmare of fear and blood.
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  It really happened. It's terrifying.
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  It's here. That first one was UK video.
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  This one's Australia video. OK.
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  Oh OK. Australia also took the UK one.
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  I'm not going to reread that. Nothing cuts like the original.
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  That's the Ultimate Edition DVD. OK, wow, it's actually
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  specifying. The Australia theatrical tagline
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  banned for over 7 years now, finally released intact, uncut.
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  Aggressive. Well, they're all caps.
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  Fucking Aussies over there y'all.
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  Y'all go hard. Oh God, you can't.
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  America's most bizarre crime? Brutal beyond description,
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  critically beyond comprehension. That's also Australian
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  theatrical. They must have like wrapped that
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  shit up over there in Australia. Toby Hooper's 1974 original
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  uncut all massacre facts based on the true story.
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  OK, totally committed to scaring you witless in quotes.
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  OK. That one can you survive dot dot
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  dot it happened it. Happened.
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  People are talking, people are talking, people say.
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  For five young friends, a typical summer afternoon drive
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  becomes a terrifying nightmare. That's on the DVD cover.
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  Once you stop screaming then you'll start talking about it.
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  That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
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  Before Halloween, before Friday the 13th, before Scream, there
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  was Saw, which is really funny because we covered all of those
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  franchises first. And then we're and then we had
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  saw so like and then so I was like, Nah, hold on.
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  Wait, wait, wait, wait. But wait a couple years.
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  Yeah, so that's a lot of tag lines.
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  I like hearing the international stuff, and that's going to be
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  important. We're going to talk about some
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  of that with our fun facts. Here's the thing with fun facts.
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  Y'all super nernst out here. Don't get mad at me for not
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  doing deep dives. This is fun facts, not deep
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  dives. There's so much information out
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  there about this movie, like theses have been written on it.
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  Men, women in chainsaws. A lot of that, like I mean it
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  like a lot of it directly talks about Sally Hardesty and her
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  role is like the original final girl there.
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  There's just there is so much written about this, I've got
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  some of the more like baser fun facts.
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  Travis watched a making of documentary recently and so feel
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  free to chime in with stuff. Yeah, I will.
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  I got I got loads of information.
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  So if you're a more casual person, don't know a ton about
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  this, this will probably be interesting for you.
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  If you're a super deep dive person, this might not be any
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  new information, but it's just this is a historical movie for a
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  lot of reasons. It's been around 51 years.
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  Yeah. Like it's.
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  It would be impossible to cover every facet of this movie on
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  this podcast. So.
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  So we're just going to start off with some of the stuff I got.
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  So they did try to limit the gore in hopes of getting APG
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  rating. I, Toby Hooper, I feel like
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  probably grew up in like one of our households.
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  I was like, yeah, no, it's fine. It won't like look, it's fine I
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  feel like. People need to understand
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  because this this gets thrown around a lot, PG back in the 70s
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  it was PG or R There was no PG13.
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  OK. There was like P like
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  Poltergeist was PGI. Always think of that.
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  That one always throws me. Out that was also before PG13.
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  Thank you for clarifying because I did not know.
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  That you didn't know? Yeah, that became.
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  A. So then I rescinded my joke.
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  It's less funny now. It's still funny because like in
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  like when you hear that today, you're like, aw, come on, man.
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  But no, PG back then was a completely different beats like
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  R, You had to earn that shit with that like heavy stuff,
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  which they did with this movie. Yeah, he fought for the PG, but
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  I mean, you're not going to get fucking PG out of this right
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  here. Yeah, and I mean, they really
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  did try and limit the amount of gore they were working on.
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  Obviously a limited budget they were working with limited like
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  makeup and prosthetics. Some of the blood was not fake.
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  And I'll get to that in a minute.
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  So yeah, it's just, I mean, obviously it is what it is.
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  But I do think about it because it's not incredibly graphic in
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  terms of like the violence we see.
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  Like a lot of it is left to our own heads.
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  But you see a shoot tunnel like body parts and bones rearranged
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  very artfully so you know different types of gore.
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  Think about it. The gore, a lot of it was still
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  in the script. They had planned for it to be a
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  pretty bloody movie, but whenever it came down to
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  actually doing the effects, there were the effects guy was
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  kind of he, he was in Toby's ear a little bit.
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  He's like, hey man, like maybe not bloody this up.
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  I think the scene that I'm specifically remembering
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  remembering is the one where he takes Pam and puts her on the
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  meat hook and I guess Chainsaw and Kirk's head off.
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  Like he said this guy, by the way, the most jaded member of
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  the he fucking hates it. And he talked shit about the
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  movie The entire time. It sounded like they kind of
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  treated him like shit, honestly, but he he basically was like,
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  don't do it. People are just going to wonder
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  or try to like figure out how you did that effect, which that
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  didn't really make much sense to me because that's some of the
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  best stuff. Like David Lynch Eraser had the
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  baby. Nobody to this day knows how
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  they made that baby. That baby is one of the most
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  disturbing fucking things in that movie.
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  But people are. How the fuck did he get that
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  baby to look like that? And here's the thing too, is
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  that the people that try to figure out, usually they kind of
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  like that type of stuff. I love trying to figure out how
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  certain effects are done. I love looking at different,
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  like fake blood on screen and trying to figure out like what
• 19:58
  the base is based on how it's drying.
• 20:00
  Like that type of stuff is fun for me.
• 20:02
  And a lot of times when I tell people like, oh, I was trying
• 20:05
  out this effect and they're like, oh, I never would have
• 20:07
  thought to do it that way. And I will say there's probably
• 20:09
  also an element too. They didn't have enough in the
• 20:12
  budget to get a second Leatherface costume.
• 20:16
  And they were afraid to wash his because they didn't want it to
• 20:20
  get lost in the laundry or fade or change color.
• 20:24
  So Gunner Hansen wore that same outfit and mask for 12 to 16
• 20:29
  hours a day, seven days a week for a full month in the Texas
• 20:33
  heat in summer, where it was regularly hitting 100°.
• 20:37
  They were all nasty and gross. Marilyn Burns.
• 20:40
  Her costume was like stiff from fake blood by the end.
• 20:43
  They saw that her they accidentally dyed her hair red
• 20:46
  from like all the blood that was in her hair.
• 20:48
  I could believe that. Yeah.
• 20:49
  Especially like in the 70s where that would have just been like,
• 20:52
  straight up dying. Like, not easy wash even
• 20:54
  nowadays, like, blood is gonna stain your skin.
• 20:57
  Yeah, the fake blood is, but not all of it was fake because they
• 21:02
  were having issues with the tube that was supposed to release the
• 21:05
  blood on her finger. And they actually cut her finger
• 21:08
  in that scene where she's feeding Grandpa.
• 21:10
  So I don't know if that means that they didn't clarify if John
• 21:14
  Dugan actually drank her blood or not.
• 21:15
  I hope we didn't. The most interesting thing about
• 21:18
  him? Never mind, you might have.
• 21:21
  I don't I don't have any more information about him.
• 21:22
  Go ahead. He was He was the youngest
• 21:24
  person on the set as the oldest character.
• 21:27
  He still has the youngest looking IMDb profile and that's
• 21:30
  including all of the like rest in.
• 21:32
  Conventions still. You know, folks that are no
• 21:34
  longer with us. He was like 19, yeah.
• 21:39
  And seeing like the whole like they did like a step by step of
• 21:42
  like showing how his prosthetics were applied.
• 21:46
  He was fucking baked on. Me, I can imagine, yeah.
• 21:50
  So Toby Hooper kind of came up with this concept while he was
• 21:53
  working as an assistant director slash documentary cameraman at
• 21:58
  University of Texas in Austin. He was looking at like, changes
• 22:04
  in culture and politics. And part of the reason that,
• 22:08
  like, he put forth this whole, like, this film is true, it's
• 22:10
  based on real events, is like feeling kind of jaded and
• 22:12
  feeling like the government's like, constantly lying to us.
• 22:15
  And like, so he wanted to, like, do that kind of same kind of lie
• 22:18
  because you have to remember some of the stuff going around
• 22:20
  at this time. We had Watergate, the 1973
• 22:22
  economic recession, the 1973 oil crisis, Vietnam, all of those
• 22:27
  things are happening. And he also noticed that there
• 22:30
  was a lot of like graphic coverage of violence of these
• 22:32
  things happening, especially like when you think of Vietnam.
• 22:35
  And he was just like, it just feels like we're talking about
• 22:37
  the bloody acts that are happening.
• 22:39
  And it feels like man is like the real problem.
• 22:43
  And he also used Ed Gain as inspiration, which that's
• 22:48
  pretty, I think that's a pretty common fact.
• 22:50
  But Ed Gain was used as like a lot of inspiration in horror
• 22:53
  movies around that time. He was talking about that and
• 22:56
  that thing I watched where that was a story that stuck with him
• 22:59
  since he was a kid because he, Ed Gein was from like that whole
• 23:03
  thing happened in Wisconsin and he had family from Wisconsin.
• 23:05
  So they would travel down and like they realized that that
• 23:09
  they would tell him that story and they realized that it made
• 23:11
  him super uncomfortable. So they would like keep bringing
• 23:14
  him up. As he was a kid.
• 23:16
  And I think that really stuck with him.
• 23:20
  I've got some alternate titles. We've got Saturn in retrograde
• 23:25
  head cheese, stocking, Leatherface and Leatherface.
• 23:30
  Leatherface is what's on the original script.
• 23:32
  Yeah. And that I think that makes
• 23:34
  sense. Yeah.
• 23:36
  He cast mostly like unknown local actors, like people that
• 23:40
  have been like, you know, commercials, plays, things like
• 23:43
  that. And the opening narration was
• 23:46
  performed by Jean Laraquette and he was paid in marijuana.
• 23:51
  Hell yeah, he was an. Official dude too, yeah.
• 23:55
  He was like the biggest. Yeah, I was going to say he was,
• 23:57
  yeah. He was the most like established
• 23:59
  person at that point, Gutter Hansen.
• 24:03
  He regarded Leatherface as having an intellectual
• 24:05
  disability disorder. And to prepare for that
• 24:08
  adequately, he actually spent some time at like a special
• 24:11
  needs school kind of learning some of the mannerisms and like
• 24:15
  vocal cadences and whatnot. And one final fact, fun fact
• 24:19
  that I have is that the gas station is now A4 themed
• 24:22
  attraction slash motel slash BBQ restaurant.
• 24:25
  So it is still I would be like you visit it today.
• 24:28
  I. Would be so conflicted to get
• 24:30
  BBQ from there. I don't, it just would feel
• 24:33
  weird. Would you be, like questioning
• 24:35
  it? Yeah, like how authentic is
• 24:36
  this? Yeah, like, am I actually eating
• 24:39
  people? This is what I came here for.
• 24:41
  I wanted to actually eat people, but you didn't expect that to
• 24:46
  there's. Sincerity on your face.
• 24:51
  Yeah, I would be like afraid of that though.
• 24:54
  Yeah, so. OK, cool.
• 24:56
  Is that all you got? Yeah, that's all I that's all I
• 24:58
  had room for on my paper. Oh, OK.
• 25:00
  At that point, I know I barely scratched the surface on some of
• 25:03
  the history of this movie, but. There's a lot, yeah.
• 25:06
  There's one thing that I want to bring up and I guess some of
• 25:09
  this other stuff I can bring up, like as we talk about the movie,
• 25:13
  but I had made comments before about how the budget was made-up
• 25:18
  because the mafia got involved and that they actually had more
• 25:22
  than what it seemed. But that was not true.
• 25:25
  It was the other way around. It was the distribution that had
• 25:30
  the mafia get involved. OK.
• 25:32
  Yeah, a lot of them got screwed over.
• 25:34
  And I think this is one of the reasons why that special effects
• 25:37
  art director dude was so pissed off is because they all got
• 25:40
  fucked over. Like they were promising the
• 25:44
  actors and everybody points on like shares of the movie.
• 25:48
  So like if it did well, they were going to get a lot of money
• 25:51
  because it did well, not like none of them obviously expected
• 25:54
  it to be what it was today. They ought.
• 25:55
  That was going to be like a stupid movie and they were
• 25:57
  shitting on it actively as they were shooting the movie.
• 26:00
  But they realized that the distributor that they agreed to
• 26:05
  do this with, which was Vortex, was only one of like three other
• 26:10
  companies that had stakes in the movie.
• 26:13
  So when they were getting points, they were getting points
• 26:15
  of points towards that. And then they went up to New
• 26:22
  York, a couple of them did to confront the guy that had like a
• 26:27
  majority of them or whatever. And the guy that was like
• 26:30
  responsible for like the whole scam because he was part of the
• 26:32
  mafia. And he like went up to their
• 26:34
  office and the guy had like 2 hench men, like like very
• 26:38
  cartoonish, like right next to him.
• 26:40
  And like they're like, look like show us your books because
• 26:42
  they're we're going to do an audit.
• 26:43
  We need to know how much we actually deserve for this movie.
• 26:47
  And then the guy's like, I'm sorry, it's not available.
• 26:49
  And then one of the guys from the movie is like, OK, well then
• 26:54
  we have no choice but to sue you.
• 26:56
  And the mob boss just looked to the guy in the eye and said you
• 26:59
  don't have the balls to sue me. Oh my God, yeah, no, I was going
• 27:04
  to say the budget, definitely. That's not made-up because they
• 27:07
  went over budget during the editing and post production.
• 27:10
  Which is part of they had to keep selling their shares, Toby.
• 27:13
  And like whoever was working on the editing, they couldn't.
• 27:17
  Like they had to keep doing it and they just lost out on money.
• 27:21
  Like I saw the most that they got was like $4000 for this.
• 27:27
  That's crazy. Yeah, that is crazy.
• 27:29
  It is insane but. You know what's not crazy?
• 27:32
  What? Talking about this movie.
• 27:33
  Yeah, let's do it. What's the good Travis?
• 27:36
  Let's go. We're gonna go good, bad, ugly
• 27:38
  and absurd, and we're each gonna share them one at a time.
• 27:43
  Yeah. So, all right, So these are the
• 27:45
  things that I enjoyed about this movie.
• 27:46
  OK, so this movie is probably one of the most terrifying
• 27:51
  movies I've ever seen in my entire life.
• 27:54
  This thing fucking traumatized me as a kid, and I think a lot
• 27:57
  of that has to do with the look of it.
• 27:59
  Everything is so well crafted. It feels like, you know how this
• 28:04
  place feels like you look at it and I'm like instant.
• 28:07
  Like, we're not in Texas, obviously, but growing up in
• 28:10
  Tennessee and Kentucky, like, I know how that heat.
• 28:14
  Yeah. Like I know those large like
• 28:17
  overly grown grassy fields and. This is a movie that I love to
• 28:22
  play in the like Dead Heat of Summer because it gets you
• 28:25
  immersed in it because you feel that so well through this movie.
• 28:30
  This movie has a texture to it. Yeah.
• 28:33
  I feel like. The location is like a character
• 28:37
  of itself. No, I feel like that ain't
• 28:39
  rights. Yeah, it loses its texture, man.
• 28:45
  But it does. It has like a really like a
• 28:47
  really authentic look to it that kind of adds to it.
• 28:51
  The thing that is really cool about him having that experience
• 28:55
  as like a documentary guy is that he was able to present it
• 28:59
  in a very documentary fashion in the beginning.
• 29:02
  And I was watching like a breakdown of it the other day.
• 29:05
  It's interesting. He opened it up the the 1st 3rd
• 29:08
  of this movie is shot and told like a documentary of that era.
• 29:14
  So OK, when people were walking in here and they had the the
• 29:18
  overlay of like the audio, that was how a lot of these
• 29:21
  documentaries were presented. So like, it's very much
• 29:24
  presented in a very real manner. And I believe this was real when
• 29:29
  I was a kid too. So I was bought in, but like
• 29:32
  there's a point when the movie shifts from that into actually
• 29:36
  going into horror. And that's when they arrive at
• 29:39
  the house, The Franklin house, which is the style of the shots
• 29:44
  changes then. And the whole presentation of
• 29:48
  the movie is more like, this is a horror movie now, which is
• 29:52
  really, really cool. And that, like, the movie is so
• 29:55
  incredibly well shot, like, it has one of the fame, like the
• 29:59
  most notorious Dolly shots, like with the one, like the swing set
• 30:02
  with her walking up to the house.
• 30:04
  Yeah. And her and Kirk are there.
• 30:06
  Pam, that is. It brings me to Leatherface, his
• 30:10
  whole entrance probably one of the best.
• 30:13
  Oh my God, it it never doesn't make me jump.
• 30:16
  It's so fucking good I don't it. Just appears it's so fast.
• 30:20
  Yeah, the guy just stumbles in there and then he just like
• 30:23
  walks into frame, like from the door, and then it just like pans
• 30:26
  up and then he just bludgeons this guy with that.
• 30:29
  And then the closing of the door, the slamming of the door.
• 30:31
  Yeah, great way to introduce a character.
• 30:33
  That walked so Jigsaw could run. Yeah, and that look, the mask is
• 30:40
  one of the most terrifying looks I've ever seen.
• 30:43
  For, like, a horror villain. It makes me uneasy to this day.
• 30:47
  Yeah, it's so, so fucking good. It had good messaging to it,
• 30:52
  which is really cool. I feel like that was a thing of
• 30:54
  this in this era of horror, because this was the same year
• 30:57
  as Black Christmas. Like people were having a lot to
• 30:59
  say and they were saying it with these movies and they were doing
• 31:03
  it in a very effective manner. Yeah, there's a lot of like
• 31:05
  revolutionary stuff being talked about with it because we've got,
• 31:08
  you know, obviously like there's a whole lot of stuff with
• 31:10
  Vietnam, right? Like that's right there.
• 31:12
  But we've also got Franklin in his wheelchair and we see.
• 31:17
  And I got a lot of I got a lot of thoughts and opinions about
• 31:20
  Franklin that I'll get to in a minute.
• 31:21
  But like, you know, him having that open frustration and us
• 31:25
  seeing how much he struggles just on a simple road trip with
• 31:28
  friends, people that care about him, seeing that, seeing like
• 31:32
  Leatherface, like there's and we'll get into this at some
• 31:35
  point throughout the franchise, I'm positive.
• 31:38
  But there there are some schools of thoughts about like is
• 31:41
  Leatherface like is there a a trans symbolism?
• 31:45
  Yeah, well, they talked about that.
• 31:48
  He, and it was very much intended.
• 31:50
  I mean, like, he took over like the matriarch role of the house
• 31:55
  because like, he felt like there was a void there and then he
• 31:58
  took it upon himself to be that, like that role.
• 32:01
  And we're, we're using he, him because that's what's used in
• 32:03
  the movie. We're using the language of the
• 32:05
  movie. Yeah.
• 32:05
  I don't know. Yeah.
• 32:06
  I think just from all other aspects, he yeah, I'm just, he's
• 32:11
  fluid. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just
• 32:13
  clarifying like, you know, because we brought this topic
• 32:16
  up. So I just want to clarify.
• 32:17
  It's not a like. Yeah.
• 32:19
  Slight or anything? Yeah, I mean.
• 32:21
  It's like Weather Face is very much presented as that from the
• 32:24
  get go. And then yeah, yeah.
• 32:27
  But like, there are some movies that even like it.
• 32:28
  It shows him putting on like the makeup and stuff.
• 32:31
  Like it's a very intentional piece of his character.
• 32:34
  It's an iconic look, the Pretty Woman look.
• 32:36
  It's so good. I like it.
• 32:38
  Yeah. And that's like, his character
• 32:40
  is actually really good too, because with a lot of these
• 32:43
  villains, they, especially this era and slash villains in
• 32:46
  general, they're so fucking basic and bare.
• 32:49
  Like all of it. It's just, it's meant to be bare
• 32:52
  because I don't know, for a lot of people, that's scary.
• 32:55
  Like, you don't know anything and there's nothing to be said
• 32:58
  about them. They're just here and they're
• 32:59
  going to fuck your day up. But like, I like Weatherface
• 33:02
  being kind of a victim in his own right.
• 33:05
  Yeah. When people are coming into his
• 33:07
  house and he is reacting like he's scared.
• 33:11
  That whole scene where he's like, checking the windows and
• 33:13
  like, puts his hands on his head, like, what the fuck is
• 33:15
  happening here? He's so.
• 33:16
  Stressed he wasn't supposed to be alone either.
• 33:18
  His brother left him. Yeah, and the thing like he,
• 33:22
  he's a tragic character because he isn't like this, because he
• 33:25
  wants to be like this. He's been molded and I've been.
• 33:28
  Thinking about this so much because he really is such a case
• 33:31
  of like nature versus nurture because he just wants to do his
• 33:34
  arts and crafts. Like look at that furniture he
• 33:36
  built. It didn't have to be built out
• 33:39
  of body parts. But he's in this fucked up
• 33:41
  family. Like, I don't know, if we'd
• 33:44
  adopted that little baby, he'd have a whole craft room, you
• 33:47
  know? Yeah, he would.
• 33:48
  Not from, you know, he's not making people furniture for us,
• 33:52
  but. Wink.
• 33:56
  But like, he's such a cool, there's depth to him that's not
• 34:00
  there for a lot of these types of characters, and I think that
• 34:03
  that helps make it truly special.
• 34:07
  There's so much I can gush about this movie.
• 34:09
  I think I need to stop myself here so you can actually talk
• 34:12
  though. Yeah, no, there's, there's a
• 34:14
  lot. Everything you said I absolutely
• 34:17
  agree with I so I don't want to like, I don't want to retread
• 34:20
  all of that. I want to talk a lot about the
• 34:22
  set design because I think it just, it's so good.
• 34:26
  Especially like when we get like there's just new things to take
• 34:30
  in every single time, like we're in that household.
• 34:34
  Yeah. And it's just, it's really like
• 34:37
  the ordinateness of like some of that furniture, all of those
• 34:41
  chicken feathers in that one, right?
• 34:42
  Like you, you feel like you can smell that room.
• 34:45
  Yeah. Like it's, it's done so well.
• 34:50
  Yeah. I just and and the storyline is
• 34:52
  simple and I think it's good. It didn't need to be more
• 34:56
  complex than what it was. That's the thing man, this movie
• 34:59
  like. It touches on a lot of things
• 35:01
  without like bloating the story it's.
• 35:03
  So basic and that that makes me it gives me hope that somebody
• 35:07
  that would like to do something that one day, like you can make
• 35:10
  probably one of the greatest movies of all time.
• 35:12
  It can be the most basic fucking movie ever.
• 35:14
  But like, if you execute it well and now like everything else is
• 35:18
  firing, you can have like an amazing movie.
• 35:20
  Yeah, yeah. And the the cast of characters,
• 35:24
  like they're all like, honestly, I think the women characters and
• 35:30
  Franklin are the more interesting ones, which I think
• 35:32
  is kind of a reversal of what you tend to see in a lot of
• 35:35
  horror movies where it's going to be like the dudes that you're
• 35:37
  going to know the most about and you're going to be rooting for
• 35:39
  and cheering for. And we kind of dispatch of them
• 35:42
  right away, you know what I mean?
• 35:44
  And I think it's interesting. But yeah, I just think like this
• 35:47
  movie, I it just, it does what it does.
• 35:51
  It does really well, Yeah. OK, so some of the bad stuff.
• 35:55
  Yeah, I do have bad. Bad things to say about this
• 35:58
  movie? My thing with me with this
• 36:02
  movie, it's a short movie, but once we get to that dinner scene
• 36:08
  at the end, it drags a bit. A lot happens, and a lot of
• 36:14
  nothing happens is it's a lot of just shots of, like, them
• 36:18
  reacting and laughing and, like, taunting Sally and Sally's eye.
• 36:23
  Yeah. And she's just kind of bugging
• 36:24
  out the entire time. And then there's like, a minute
• 36:27
  of, like, the grandpa trying to sledgehammer.
• 36:29
  And that's funny. I get it.
• 36:30
  That was probably meant to be humorous.
• 36:32
  But it doesn't fully land for me.
• 36:36
  Like it's, it's good, but like, God, it just is so drawn out.
• 36:40
  And then it kind of kills the momentum that we had there for a
• 36:43
  while. It was going on a fucking roll
• 36:46
  right there. And then it just halts.
• 36:48
  Yeah, I it really like the, the pacing is a little bit off
• 36:52
  because we like bam, bam, bam, bam, get rid of four of the
• 36:57
  characters we're following back-to-back.
• 36:59
  It actually takes a while before we get that death, too.
• 37:03
  Yeah, there's a lot of groundwork laid and then, but
• 37:05
  once we do get deaths, they're racking up fast.
• 37:08
  Yeah. And so then we're like it, it's
• 37:11
  a very fast peek with those. And then we've got Sally and
• 37:15
  she's a fantastic final girl and like her being captured by the
• 37:20
  old man, the cook, whatever you want to call him.
• 37:24
  Like that. That moment is also really
• 37:26
  fantastic. Like that's a nice moment to
• 37:28
  have that, lol. And she's staring into the fire
• 37:30
  and she was like thinking about everything she just saw.
• 37:33
  And that's great. But yeah, when we get to the
• 37:35
  dinner, it does. It's meant to be the climax, but
• 37:37
  it somehow feels anticlimactic. Yeah, it it does.
• 37:40
  Yeah, and also what happened to the truck driver?
• 37:43
  He's still running to this day. I'm, I'm telling you, that man
• 37:48
  is like Forrest Gump. He is like thin.
• 37:51
  He is. He's guy.
• 37:53
  He's he's wiry now. He just he throws a wrench.
• 37:59
  My. Favorite Ryan?
• 38:00
  I I saw where they were doing multiple cuts of that and like,
• 38:03
  you know that shot where he used to throwing it right at the
• 38:05
  camera. The guy like ran turned around
• 38:08
  through the wrench and then he just like put his arms under
• 38:11
  his, like under each other, like doing a little pose.
• 38:14
  I don't know. How do you describe this?
• 38:15
  Pose crossed his arms. Crossed his arms.
• 38:17
  There we go. He crossed his arms and just
• 38:20
  like did a pose of the camera key.
• 38:23
  Yeah, I like that truck driver. I could have done more with him.
• 38:26
  He's so funny. He's like, I don't know if
• 38:28
  that's meant to be funny, but he the whole thing when he just
• 38:32
  gets out of the truck and he's like, yeah, I'll give you a
• 38:35
  ride. What the fuck is that?
• 38:38
  But the best? Thing was how immediately he
• 38:41
  reacted like what have what have your routes done like man that
• 38:45
  this is not phasing you as much as you should.
• 38:48
  Trucker C should, I guess. Yeah.
• 38:50
  And he doesn't say a fucking word.
• 38:52
  Doesn't even scream. No, just yeah.
• 38:55
  It's it's funny. Yeah, I just, I wanted a little
• 38:58
  bit more. I wanted to know what happened.
• 38:59
  We got resolution on every other character.
• 39:01
  I wanted to know what happened to the truck driver.
• 39:05
  OK. Did you have any pads?
• 39:07
  That was it. That was it, the pacing in the
• 39:09
  truck driver. OK, cool.
• 39:10
  All right, ugly, Well, my ugly is all of the cattle and pig
• 39:15
  slaughter talk that goes on in this movie.
• 39:17
  It's really upsetting. I don't like hearing about it,
• 39:19
  but they go into like deep, deep detail with how that shit's
• 39:22
  done. And you basically see how it's
• 39:25
  performed just on humans in this movie.
• 39:28
  But it's I don't like it And I I understand that's the point.
• 39:32
  They're drawing comparisons, but that doesn't mean I have to like
• 39:36
  it. Yeah, yeah, fair mine.
• 39:40
  OK, two things can be true, and the two truths can exist at the
• 39:47
  same time. OK.
• 39:50
  It is incredibly frustrating to live your life with these
• 39:55
  different kind of needs, and the world is just not accommodating
• 39:59
  to it. And I feel for Franklin, where
• 40:02
  he is so frustrated. The way they have to pull over
• 40:04
  for his bathroom breaks. He has to pee into a can, and he
• 40:07
  rolls down the hill. I feel for him when they get to
• 40:09
  the house and he can't go up the stairs.
• 40:11
  I feel for him when they need to go look for everybody and it's
• 40:14
  like he either has to be left alone or, you know how Sally
• 40:19
  push him through. I think it's fantastic that they
• 40:22
  showed this storyline and they were so plain with it.
• 40:24
  Yeah. And it sucks, and it's something
• 40:27
  that we should talk about more as a society and be more aware
• 40:29
  of and more empathetic too. Yeah, I saw somebody make a oh,
• 40:33
  do you have like a follow? Well, that's my first truth.
• 40:35
  I'll go with your second, sorry. Franklin is goddamn annoying.
• 40:39
  Yeah, he like, I get his frustration and I get why he
• 40:44
  whines, but that's all he ever does.
• 40:46
  And when he's not whining, he's talking about pig slaughter and
• 40:49
  I can't. Oh God, they would not want to
• 40:52
  spend time with him either. And it has nothing to do with
• 40:55
  the fact that we'd have to set up special ramps and we'd have
• 40:57
  to push him through rough terrain.
• 40:59
  It has to do everything with his personality.
• 41:03
  Like, it's so funny I you got to give the actor chops.
• 41:07
  Yes. There or props for that because
• 41:10
  he did such a good job and they were talking about that.
• 41:13
  He himself is like, I get it. I I, I fucking hate the bastard.
• 41:18
  Like he he's a whiny. It's funny.
• 41:20
  He was like doing like impressions of himself.
• 41:22
  He's like, yeah, like Franklin. He was just.
• 41:24
  Like, hey, hey, it's just like. And we do every time we watch
• 41:28
  this movie, it's to the point now where Talia, like, yeah,
• 41:31
  shoot, like her ears go back. She's like you guys are.
• 41:33
  Sally yeah, he he got to the point to where he was so
• 41:40
  effective at it that the cast said we didn't have to act.
• 41:45
  We hated him. And it got to the point where
• 41:48
  they ostracized the actor too cuz he like they're like, I just
• 41:53
  don't, I don't want it. Like he's too good at.
• 41:56
  It I think it's telling when the person he had the best chemistry
• 41:58
  with was the hitchhiker. Yeah, like, yeah.
• 42:03
  Yeah. So that's not ugliest that we
• 42:05
  have a world where people are not easily accommodated, but we
• 42:09
  also have a world where we all know this guy.
• 42:12
  I saw in. Red.
• 42:13
  Not too long ago, it was like a month or two ago where somebody
• 42:15
  on red was like, why do people hate Franklin?
• 42:18
  Like, I feel bad for him. I'm like, I don't know, man.
• 42:20
  Like, I get it. He's got some like, yeah, he's
• 42:23
  got those complications, but. He absolutely has a right to be
• 42:25
  frustrated. I'm not saying he brings.
• 42:28
  Some of it on himself by being difficult.
• 42:32
  Yeah, he like, he's just not socially adept.
• 42:37
  No. And that has nothing to do with
• 42:39
  him being in a wheelchair. No, yeah, like it has.
• 42:43
  I could see him absolutely having this.
• 42:45
  Like if if he could have walked right up the stairs with the
• 42:48
  rest of them, he would have been cock blocking the couples, you
• 42:51
  know what I mean? And he would not realize that he
• 42:52
  was doing it. Yeah, it's just he, I feel like
• 42:57
  even in that scene, like Kirk's like, hey, like, you know, let
• 43:00
  me clean it up. And then he's just like, no, let
• 43:02
  me look at this symbol. Did he?
• 43:03
  And he said he said, OK, you go ahead and clean it up.
• 43:06
  And you know what Franklin did? Didn't clean it up clean.
• 43:09
  It up just will try to will into.
• 43:10
  That house let it just dry onto the van.
• 43:13
  Yeah, he didn't bother trying to clean them up.
• 43:15
  He said well I'll probably die anyway so if he cares, and I'm
• 43:19
  not even joking, he probably thought that because he was
• 43:21
  convinced the hitchhiker was coming back to kill him.
• 43:23
  That's true. Yeah.
• 43:25
  OK, let's do some absurd stuff. OK, I'm really excited for this.
• 43:29
  All right, so here's a list of my absurds.
• 43:35
  The whole opening scene with the hitchhiker in the Fan, Like he's
• 43:39
  in a groove. He's rolling, he's got some new
• 43:41
  friends. And then he goes and he like,
• 43:43
  does the thing where he thinks that he's like, hey, we're all
• 43:46
  in this together. But he takes it too far.
• 43:48
  He takes the knife and he cuts his hand.
• 43:50
  And it becomes so awkward in that moment where everybody's
• 43:53
  like, what the fuck are you doing?
• 43:54
  And you can see he like has that realization in his face.
• 43:57
  Like took it too far. Yeah, yeah, went too far.
• 43:59
  Didn't read the vibe Yeah, I I liked his foolproof business
• 44:04
  plan of like, I took a picture now you give me money.
• 44:10
  I. Like how Franklin's like not
• 44:11
  very good picture. It's very David Bowie.
• 44:14
  They're like, not very good. Is it next Franklin again taking
• 44:21
  his knife and just stabbing the van?
• 44:24
  And then Kirk's like Franklin cut it out.
• 44:27
  He's like, oh, I don't know, I was just stabbing the van over
• 44:30
  here and just. And you know, Kirk shouldn't
• 44:32
  have trusted Franklin to clean the van because he's already
• 44:34
  proven he doesn't care about the van.
• 44:36
  He. Doesn't need a knife.
• 44:38
  Yeah, what you're. So it's like Italian when she
• 44:40
  gets in her wicking fits. He's like, I just, I don't, I'm
• 44:42
  just stabbing stuff. What happened here?
• 44:44
  I don't even know. Franklin's tantrum when he he
• 44:48
  gets to the house where he has the whole breakdown, it's just
• 44:52
  so funny. It's like, again, I get the
• 44:55
  frustration, but also he's that man slobbered all over himself.
• 44:59
  He did. I think if we put him in my
• 45:02
  under one year old nephew that spilled a plate of spaghetti on,
• 45:05
  well, it didn't spill. He dropped a plate of spaghetti
• 45:07
  on me earlier, bit by bit. If we put them in a slobbering
• 45:11
  contest, I think Franklin would win.
• 45:14
  He would do it, yeah. And my final is Leatherface's
• 45:17
  stamina, because that motherfucker is bulky, big, and
• 45:20
  he can fucking go. He do cardio.
• 45:22
  He. Do Yeah, he goes fast and long
• 45:25
  and how the fuck does he maintain?
• 45:28
  It's insane. All right?
• 45:30
  What are your absurds? Well, one that Saturn's in
• 45:33
  retrograde, you know, I never really paid attention to her
• 45:37
  saying that, but I was like, OK, weird, weird astrology stuff
• 45:40
  going on here. I.
• 45:41
  Can't remember, was that like was that a lot in the movie or
• 45:46
  was it there's a one scene I remember?
• 45:47
  There's that and also Pam. Read their horoscopes.
• 45:51
  I think it was said that Franklin's a Leo like you.
• 45:55
  Sally is a Capricorn like me. Hey.
• 45:58
  Yeah, so. I get Franklin and you get
• 46:00
  Sally. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:02
  I actually pulled up the script and was reading it cuz I kind of
• 46:05
  wanted to. How did this transfer from page
• 46:08
  to screen? And a lot of the conversation is
• 46:12
  about the horoscope stuff from her in the beginning.
• 46:14
  It's like a lot of like overlaid stuff and like, yeah, so I
• 46:17
  didn't, I couldn't remember if that ended up actually being a
• 46:19
  lot in the movie. I remember her talking about it
• 46:21
  a bit. Yeah.
• 46:23
  And then my favorite, I was, I was, I never noticed this before
• 46:28
  that. I caught it watching it this
• 46:30
  last time. And it took everything in me not
• 46:31
  to like burst out laughing because I needed, I needed to
• 46:34
  have this moment with you all as we recorded.
• 46:36
  OK, so they cut Sally Singer and Grandpa starts sucking her
• 46:41
  blood, right. And it's implied that Grandpa
• 46:43
  has been in a deep sleep for who knows how long.
• 46:46
  He's mummified. So he starts drinking and he
• 46:50
  does that little happy dance that girls do when they get
• 46:53
  food. They're really excited.
• 46:54
  Oh, yes, he does like a little, like he does a shimmy and he
• 46:58
  kicks his feet a little bit. And I'm not even.
• 47:00
  It's not like a shake or whatever.
• 47:02
  Like it's a it's like actually happy.
• 47:03
  Yeah. Like he's doing a little
• 47:05
  shoulder rock. And then?
• 47:06
  I was paying closer attention. He does.
• 47:09
  I never noticed that he has that big, like, business suit.
• 47:13
  It's like that fat cat business suit.
• 47:15
  Yeah, from like the 20s or whatever.
• 47:17
  I don't know, Like he probably existed back then.
• 47:20
  Yeah, no, it's, it's amazing because he's just like.
• 47:23
  I need to pay attention to that. Yeah, I never noticed that.
• 47:26
  Before my favorite. All right, got anything else?
• 47:32
  That was that was my main I nothing else will be as an
• 47:36
  amazing as it catches grandpa shimmy grandpa doing the happy
• 47:40
  girl Hungry Girl shimmy. Yeah.
• 47:43
  OK. So let's rate it.
• 47:45
  OK. It's it's in for me, obviously.
• 47:48
  I think I may give it a 9.5. Wow, OK, so where's the .5 come
• 47:54
  from? I can't.
• 47:59
  It's a gut thing. OK, Yeah.
• 48:01
  Like, I don't really. I don't know.
• 48:04
  No, that's fun. I get it.
• 48:05
  Yeah, I just, for me, this is like one of the most perfect
• 48:09
  horror movies. That, yeah.
• 48:10
  Exists out there. It's you can put this up against
• 48:13
  about anything and like it. It is superior to that if you
• 48:17
  ask me. OK, all right.
• 48:18
  Well, between Halloween, though, and that's the coolest battle.
• 48:22
  I don't know. We have a starting average of
• 48:24
  9.75. All right, perhaps you can talk
• 48:27
  me into a ton. We shall see.
• 48:29
  We let's give it a shot. OK, and I'd like summer Dr.
• 48:34
  becomes a nightmare. That's that's some of the
• 48:37
  opening narration. Basically, yeah.
• 48:40
  And just like, hey, this is some shit that went down.
• 48:43
  Totally real. Yeah, is they were having a good
• 48:45
  drive. We don't actually know where
• 48:47
  they were driving to you, but they were driving.
• 48:48
  They're driving to Houston. Apparently.
• 48:52
  They were like, this is like a whole thing.
• 48:54
  This is a pit stop. And from the script, they, like,
• 48:57
  realize, Franklin points out. Like, oh, hey, this is the town
• 49:00
  where our grandpa's house is. They're like, OK, let's go
• 49:02
  visit. Yeah, and there there's a good
• 49:04
  reason that they stopped too, which we'll get to in a second.
• 49:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:09
  So it's August 18th, 1973. We see camera flashes and hands
• 49:13
  in various states of decay. We get that.
• 49:15
  Iconic. You know, I never noticed until
• 49:19
  paying attention this time, but that's actually the hitchhiker
• 49:22
  taking pictures of the body that he's taken out.
• 49:25
  That makes sense. Yeah, cuz he's got the camera
• 49:27
  there. Yeah.
• 49:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, That makes sense.
• 49:32
  So we hear some radio stories and these were all so dark and
• 49:36
  grim. In reading some of the
• 49:37
  background on like what inspired this movie, I was like, it makes
• 49:40
  sense why like we're hearing so much like grossness on the
• 49:45
  radio. One of the big things that's
• 49:47
  being talked about right now is there's a Texas grave robber.
• 49:50
  And right now they're outside of Newt.
• 49:52
  And like some bodies have been displayed and really grotesque
• 49:55
  ways. And we actually see like the
• 49:57
  bodies like kind of on display one.
• 49:59
  Of the best opening shots. It's so cool.
• 50:01
  Like he's got, he basically did art with a corpse.
• 50:04
  He took a corpse and then like, got like a separate head.
• 50:08
  Yeah. And I put it in his lap and he's
• 50:09
  got him, like perched up on top of the tombstone.
• 50:12
  It's pretty impressive. Yeah, and they talk about like
• 50:14
  some of the bodies are just missing pieces.
• 50:16
  Some of them, the entire bodies are missing.
• 50:18
  And we also hear some other news stories as they continue
• 50:21
  driving, like there's a chemical plane explosion, somebody that
• 50:25
  committed suicide from jumping off the top of a building, a
• 50:28
  bridge claps so bad. Times in.
• 50:31
  Texas. Yeah, like Texas not doing so
• 50:33
  great. We see the van stop and they are
• 50:37
  setting up a ramp for Franklin. It's just two, two by fours, and
• 50:42
  he goes and pees in a coffee can and a truck blast by which
• 50:46
  distracts Kirk just long enough for Franklin to go rolling down
• 50:50
  the hill. Yeah, it's the wind blast that
• 50:51
  knocks him down there. Can I just say I appreciate the
• 50:54
  continuity and his if it was still down when he fell?
• 50:58
  Yeah, I appreciate that attention to detail.
• 51:02
  So good job, Toby. Yeah.
• 51:03
  That's the last thing that he shot.
• 51:05
  Is it? Yeah, cuz he like, apparently
• 51:07
  they were like they ran on money and they hadn't paid him.
• 51:11
  And he's like, look, I'm not gonna do this unless I get a
• 51:13
  check. So yeah.
• 51:14
  Like, well, they're asking him to do a stunt.
• 51:16
  Yeah, and he said like, that was my favorite scene because you
• 51:18
  can tell in that scene I had in my pocket a check for $5000.
• 51:24
  Nice. Yeah, Yeah.
• 51:27
  So they get back in the car and this is Pam's like reading some,
• 51:31
  like, astrology stuff. She says Saturn's in retrograde.
• 51:34
  I don't. I'm not woo woo enough to be
• 51:36
  able to tell you all all about this, which I'm sure is
• 51:38
  surprising to some of you listening that I'm not that
• 51:41
  particular brand of woo woo. But I know retrograde's not
• 51:45
  good. I don't really know either, I
• 51:48
  always took it as like stars a line type shit planets are in
• 51:51
  like a line. It's supposed to kind of like
• 51:54
  fuck with the energy if that's like your star sign or whatever.
• 51:59
  Like it's not like good for the mojo.
• 52:02
  They do stop at the graveyard where Grandpa Hardesty is buried
• 52:08
  cuz she like Sally wants to go check on him.
• 52:10
  And they're, they're dudes just like drinking at the graveyard.
• 52:14
  I assume that this is like a, like a neighborhood watch type
• 52:17
  thing that like they decided, hey, let's go hang out at the
• 52:20
  graveyard, make sure no one busts in.
• 52:22
  But also, since we're just sitting there all day and as hot
• 52:24
  as balls, I always drink. One of them is the grave keeper
• 52:27
  cuz he's the drunk one. There's like I've seen things, I
• 52:29
  know things happen here. You know, he's like being very
• 52:33
  much. What's the guy from Cabin in the
• 52:37
  Woods? Oh, the the Harbinger.
• 52:40
  Yeah, he's being a harbinger right here.
• 52:42
  Yeah. So Sally goes and she checks on
• 52:46
  the grave. And then Franklin was like, but
• 52:47
  how do you know? And she goes, no, like it
• 52:49
  doesn't look like it's been dug up.
• 52:52
  And he's like, how can you be sure though?
• 52:55
  So they feel like it's like stench that fills the air and
• 52:58
  like, what the fuck is that? And then Franklin turns out
• 53:00
  like, oh, that's the slaughterhouse.
• 53:02
  Our papaw used to work in there and.
• 53:05
  He doesn't say. Pat Paul, that's your
• 53:06
  Appalachian coming. Out.
• 53:07
  Yeah, they call him Grandpa. Yeah, so there.
• 53:12
  I just want to say I appreciate the fact that the major factory
• 53:18
  that we live near is the Jif peanut roasting factory.
• 53:21
  So that's what we get to smell, and it's great, yeah.
• 53:25
  Way better than dead cow. Yeah.
• 53:27
  No, no contests. So they see a hit tracker on the
• 53:31
  road and they pick him up. So I like this comment right
• 53:35
  here cuz it's almost kind of a warning.
• 53:37
  Franco's like, I think we just picked up Dracula and then later
• 53:41
  on we get them actually sucking blood from.
• 53:43
  Sally's finger, which? Is kind of.
• 53:44
  Cool yeah. So he says that his family's
• 53:48
  always been a ME he doesn't like cuz they've been talking about
• 53:52
  the sledgehammer versus the air gun and the air guns being used
• 53:55
  now it's supposed to be more humane and the hitchhikers like,
• 53:57
  no, I don't like it puts people out of work.
• 54:00
  And again, think about the context with which this movie
• 54:03
  was written. In films, we were in a major
• 54:05
  economic recession. So I can, I'm a vegan, so I've
• 54:11
  got complicated feelings on this, but I get what he's
• 54:14
  saying. Like drawing, you draw.
• 54:16
  Comparisons. It's basically like AI taking
• 54:18
  over jobs for people doing other things.
• 54:20
  Yeah, you know, like it's the same vein.
• 54:23
  Of the conversation it said AI isn't doing anything to make
• 54:27
  things better for anyone else other than like money hungry CE
• 54:32
  OS whereas like the air gun is more humane for the cows at
• 54:35
  least. I guess it's also just an
• 54:37
  efficiency thing. Yeah, yeah, either way.
• 54:40
  So he also starts showing them pictures of kills and stuff.
• 54:44
  Like, yeah, see, like, I was really good at it here.
• 54:46
  This is kind of my job actually. Even if Franklin are vibing,
• 54:50
  they're and Franklin is genuinely interested in these
• 54:53
  pictures and he's trying to show it.
• 54:55
  And Pam is like, I don't please stop.
• 54:59
  Like I don't want to hear about this.
• 55:00
  I don't want to look at this. It's yeah, it's I, I don't this
• 55:05
  guy, he he's so he comes out so strong out the gaze like, hey,
• 55:08
  thanks for picking me up. So you guys like killing things
• 55:10
  like here's some meat like I killed this here's.
• 55:12
  Pictures of meat I killed inside of the squirrel purse I made.
• 55:16
  Yeah, like, it's a little like he's got the, you know, how
• 55:21
  girls nowadays, instead of using a Fanny pack the way you're
• 55:24
  supposed to, they like, do it crossbody almost.
• 55:27
  He's got that foot meat out of a squirrel and it's like right up
• 55:30
  here on his bosom. So he's not even hard with
• 55:33
  Frankel? Yeah, until he goes over to
• 55:34
  Franklin and reaches and grabs his knife out.
• 55:36
  Yeah, cuz Franklin was using his tone off, but it was on his
• 55:40
  fingers this time. And he takes the knife and he
• 55:43
  just cuts his hands. Yeah.
• 55:44
  And I don't know what the fuck made him do this.
• 55:47
  This guy, they're just trying to make him seem deranged.
• 55:50
  Nobody else has ever wanted to see his slaughter photos the way
• 55:55
  Franklin has, and he was like, let's see what else we have in
• 55:57
  common. Blood Brothers.
• 55:59
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't even, he didn't feel
• 56:01
  like he needed to even ask though, because he like thought
• 56:04
  Franklin was. He's already on board.
• 56:05
  He's like, this is my blood brother.
• 56:06
  I liked the version of it last night in Wild 0 where it's like
• 56:11
  we're gonna touch backs of hands and you just blow this whistle
• 56:14
  if you're ever in danger, and that, that's a better version of
• 56:17
  it. It's a little bit more.
• 56:19
  Rock'n'roll. Yes, that's that's a word for.
• 56:24
  You ever get the chance to watch Wild 0?
• 56:26
  Highly recommend. It's fucking wild.
• 56:28
  Highly recommend. All right, so he did that and
• 56:31
  then he pulls out his camera and takes a picture of Franklin.
• 56:35
  I guess he's like, they did something crazy and wanted to
• 56:37
  get a picture of the reaction or something.
• 56:40
  I don't know. It's like the opposite of those,
• 56:43
  where it's like the photographer took a picture of these pets, of
• 56:47
  these dogs before and after, calling him a good boy or good
• 56:49
  girl. Yeah, it's like that, but it's
• 56:51
  like immediately after freaking him out, cutting my hand,
• 56:57
  scaring him. So he invites him over to
• 56:59
  dinner. Hard pass.
• 57:01
  Yeah. And then he's like, well, can
• 57:02
  you at least just drop me off at my house?
• 57:04
  It's right there. It's real close.
• 57:06
  And I'm like, well, if it's that close, then just walk like we're
• 57:09
  we're in a rush anyway. And then he says $2.00 for the
• 57:13
  photo. And Franklin's like, it's not
• 57:14
  even a good photo. So then he explodes it.
• 57:17
  And I'm not joking. He like sets it on some tinfoil
• 57:20
  drops like some like powder like from a bullet and lights it up.
• 57:25
  The original way you described that made me think of bacon
• 57:28
  Hunger Force because in that show things just explode.
• 57:30
  It's one of my favorite gags. Like I remember one time Shake
• 57:33
  took like meat wide, like took some money and threw at meat
• 57:36
  wide and just like kind of slowly like floats down and then
• 57:38
  just, it's so funny. So yeah, like he doesn't really
• 57:44
  take kindly to that whole thing. Expose his picture.
• 57:47
  And then he just grabs Franklin and starts cutting his arm.
• 57:49
  Well, he pulls out a straight razor from his own boot.
• 57:52
  Yeah. And he's like, look, I got a
• 57:53
  knife too. And then cuts Franklin's arm.
• 57:56
  They kick him out and then he starts to just bang up against
• 57:59
  the van and he starts to take his blood and he's trying to
• 58:02
  write something on the van but they drive off before he can
• 58:04
  finish. And as they're driving away,
• 58:07
  Pam's like, oh, Franklin, your horoscope says that you're going
• 58:10
  to meet strange people as you travel through the country, and
• 58:12
  it's going to be a bad day. Yeah, and then they read, like,
• 58:15
  the one for all of them. Like, yeah, so bad.
• 58:17
  Shit's just going to happen in general today, apparently.
• 58:20
  Yep. It's not going to be good.
• 58:21
  So they arrive at a gas station and a barbecue joint.
• 58:24
  Yeah. The cook approaches.
• 58:26
  Them listen in the South gas stations are multifunctional.
• 58:30
  That's how they should be. I don't know how much it is in
• 58:32
  the north but like having like bait shop, deli, gas station
• 58:38
  like. It's like all the convenience
• 58:41
  store is taken to the extreme there.
• 58:43
  I'm not talking about Bucky's either people, I'm talking about
• 58:47
  hand painted sign 3 miles from any other like institution.
• 58:53
  Picture of this place right here.
• 58:55
  And that's exactly what it is, 2 pumps included.
• 58:57
  It smells like worms like. So they ask for gas.
• 59:01
  No gas yeah. He says that the truck should be
• 59:03
  in either later today or tomorrow, but they can stick
• 59:05
  around and eat some BBQ if they want.
• 59:08
  They reluctantly go in there and get some barbecue, and then
• 59:12
  they're like, fuck it, let's just go to the Franklin House.
• 59:15
  And he asked. This is funny, he says.
• 59:17
  Do you know where the Franklin House is?
• 59:20
  Have you ever thought about this before?
• 59:21
  Does. That mean his name is Franklin.
• 59:22
  Franklin, Franklin. That has been asked before and
• 59:27
  there was a answer. I think it may have been from
• 59:30
  Toby Hooper or somebody involved in the production.
• 59:32
  Was that his grandpa was named like he's named after his
• 59:35
  grandpa? Yes, that's it.
• 59:37
  Yes. Well, that's my cousin pointed
• 59:39
  this out to me once when we were younger and I've never not been
• 59:41
  able to think about it because she said now they're called the
• 59:44
  Mario Brothers. And we know canonically first
• 59:48
  name Mario, first name Luigi, but when you use brothers, you
• 59:51
  always use the last name. So that means it's Mario Mario,
• 59:54
  Facto Mario Mario. Mario, Mario, Mario.
• 59:58
  Yep, and I've never, I've never not thought of that I'm.
• 1:00:01
  Not going to defend that that's their canonical name.
• 1:00:04
  Canonically, if. You ask me.
• 1:00:06
  Canonically, Franklin's name is Franklin.
• 1:00:09
  Hard to see Franklin. Yes, exactly.
• 1:00:13
  Franklin. Franklin for short.
• 1:00:14
  Franklin. Franklin, Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  So the cook warns them he's like, might not want to go over
• 1:00:20
  there, though. People don't really take too
• 1:00:21
  kindly to, you know, people coming over to their house.
• 1:00:23
  He's like, but it's my house. He's like, oh.
• 1:00:26
  It's the Franklin. Franklin.
• 1:00:27
  Franklin House got him. I'm Franklin.
• 1:00:31
  Why? Why did he warn him to?
• 1:00:34
  Did he want them to stay there so he could kidnap them?
• 1:00:36
  Or did he just not want them to go poking around over there?
• 1:00:40
  I think it was a little a little BI think he was like, if the gas
• 1:00:43
  doesn't come, then hey, I got a new BBQ for tomorrow and if the
• 1:00:47
  gas does come, then Leatherface is fine.
• 1:00:50
  Yeah, well, maybe. Maybe the hitchhiker was
• 1:00:53
  supposed to bring Leatherface by later.
• 1:00:55
  I don't know. We know he was supposed to be
• 1:00:56
  like babysitting or. Whatever.
• 1:00:57
  He gets lost in this movie. Like it's so funny because we
• 1:01:01
  see him then and then we see him towards the end of the movie and
• 1:01:03
  he's like walking down the road in the middle of the night and
• 1:01:06
  he was right there near his house already.
• 1:01:08
  Where the fuck did that guy go? He was obviously watching them
• 1:01:11
  in the Franklin house. He.
• 1:01:13
  He, you know, he could have. To as they're driving to
• 1:01:17
  Franklin, Franklin Manor, Franklin freaks out because he's
• 1:01:23
  like, this is blood on my knife. I I sounded like the mayor from
• 1:01:28
  it's a wonderful knife you. Kind of do it, yeah.
• 1:01:33
  No, he's like freaking. And I was like, is this blood?
• 1:01:36
  Is this blood and like? There's been blood exchanged
• 1:01:40
  here man, don't be so surprised. And also stop stabbing that van.
• 1:01:45
  Because this is when he was stabbed.
• 1:01:46
  He was like, please stop it. Fucking frankly.
• 1:01:49
  I thought about today because again, I helped my nephew in the
• 1:01:52
  potty and the stall had like a hole in it.
• 1:01:56
  He goes, oh, there's a heart. And I was like, yeah, buddy,
• 1:01:59
  there's that's a well, it's just like the the paper or the paint
• 1:02:03
  was peeling. Yeah, but it looked like
• 1:02:05
  somebody had like, no, this is first of all women's.
• 1:02:09
  He's little. He can be in the women's it.
• 1:02:10
  Doesn't matter. But like, yeah, no, there's like
• 1:02:13
  a chip in the paint and he's like, oh, there's a heart on the
• 1:02:16
  wall. I was like, sure, buddy.
• 1:02:18
  Yeah, OK, that's cute. Yeah, we'll pull out a heart.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah. All right, so they arrive at the
• 1:02:25
  Franklin house and. Franklin, Franklin Manor.
• 1:02:28
  Yes, and they are excited to go explore the place.
• 1:02:31
  But they look at the blood on the van outside, and they're
• 1:02:33
  like, that's creepy. All right, Anyway, let's go
• 1:02:36
  inside. And Franklin's just, like, still
• 1:02:38
  standing out there. There's a ball of spiders in the
• 1:02:42
  corner of one of the rooms. Yeah, I feel like they must have
• 1:02:45
  like, found this place and they saw that and they're like, get
• 1:02:47
  that on the film. Yeah, that's definitely gonna
• 1:02:49
  play here. It's really upsetting.
• 1:02:52
  No, I think their daddy long wax is.
• 1:02:54
  What? Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  Fuck dude. First day of moving into my
• 1:02:58
  apartment. Sorry to go on a tangy here, but
• 1:03:00
  like when we lived down in Richmond, I went going to
• 1:03:03
  college trying to like get out. My fucking door was swarmed with
• 1:03:07
  granddaddy along. Yeah.
• 1:03:09
  I was almost terrified to leave my house because like and I
• 1:03:13
  couldn't miss because it was first day of class.
• 1:03:15
  So if I miss, I would have been kicked out of class.
• 1:03:17
  I had to brave it, had to fight through some granddaddy's.
• 1:03:20
  You did good. It's it's fucking terrifying.
• 1:03:24
  So eventually, like Franklin's freaking out, he's mad, he's
• 1:03:26
  having his tantrum that he's not able to be a part of them and
• 1:03:29
  he's having difficulties getting around.
• 1:03:31
  And he makes it inside. And then Kirk and Pam are like,
• 1:03:34
  hey, where was the swimming hole that you mentioned?
• 1:03:36
  So he points them in the direction.
• 1:03:38
  And but he does that thing where, like, he's given them the
• 1:03:41
  answer, but he's not being clear that it's the answer because he
• 1:03:44
  is in a bad man. He goes, well, there used to be
• 1:03:46
  a path down between two sheds, I think.
• 1:03:48
  Yeah, between two sheds, maybe. And then Kaley, yeah.
• 1:03:54
  So they want to head out something, which I can't blame
• 1:03:56
  them. It's 100°.
• 1:03:56
  They look sweaty. And also they want a break from
• 1:03:59
  Franklin. And also they're probably just.
• 1:04:01
  They're probably gonna. Fuck yeah.
• 1:04:02
  They're probably gonna say they're two young hot people.
• 1:04:04
  Like, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:07
  So you can't even call it bumping uglies.
• 1:04:08
  They're both. Very.
• 1:04:09
  Attractive. Yeah, like they're bumping
• 1:04:11
  pretties. They as they're going, they hear
• 1:04:15
  a gas generator and this gets Kirk Exotic.
• 1:04:17
  He's like, cool. So we go up there, we ask them
• 1:04:20
  for some gas, I'll give him a couple of bucks and my guitar
• 1:04:22
  just as insurance that we're coming back with more gas.
• 1:04:25
  So we'll do that. We'll come back, I'll get my
• 1:04:27
  guitar back. We give him another couple bucks
• 1:04:29
  and we've repaid him for the gas, which I feel like is an
• 1:04:31
  overly complicated idea because if you're already paying for the
• 1:04:34
  gas, why are you bringing back extra gas?
• 1:04:37
  Yeah, Kirk isn't. He's pretty, OK.
• 1:04:42
  He's not the one to really formulate plants here.
• 1:04:44
  That's. True, that's true.
• 1:04:46
  That's. True.
• 1:04:47
  And like they so like they find the pool area.
• 1:04:51
  No pool. Yeah, it's just dirt.
• 1:04:53
  Dried up a long time ago, but then they hear that gas and
• 1:04:55
  then, yeah, they approach there, see a junkyard of all kinds of
• 1:04:58
  cars. That's yeah.
• 1:05:00
  Ominous, but they. Press on.
• 1:05:02
  If you're approaching an isolated house, especially in
• 1:05:08
  the South, that's already, we've talked so many times on the
• 1:05:10
  show, don't go into other people's homes.
• 1:05:12
  Just don't do it. Yeah, but especially don't do it
• 1:05:14
  in the South. But especially especially don't
• 1:05:16
  do it when they've got a car graveyard.
• 1:05:19
  Yeah, it's just bad signs. People red flags left and right,
• 1:05:23
  and they notice the generator. So like, oh, cool generator.
• 1:05:26
  So there's somebody here, They're using power.
• 1:05:28
  They go to the front door. Nobody answers when they first
• 1:05:31
  knock. Then Kirk looks down at the
• 1:05:34
  ground and he sees a human tooth it up and gives it to Pam, who
• 1:05:39
  flips out. Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  Understandably, yeah, it's gross and also the tooth has like a
• 1:05:43
  huge cavity in it. Yeah, it's not good.
• 1:05:46
  Yeah. And she goes over to like, sit
• 1:05:49
  on the swing while he continues to knock on the door.
• 1:05:51
  Because she's just like, she's like, I'll let him get this out
• 1:05:55
  of his system, but I don't want to be a part of this.
• 1:05:57
  And he decides he's going to go in.
• 1:05:58
  Yeah, because he knocks the door and one knock gets the door
• 1:06:01
  open. So he's like, all right, I'm
• 1:06:02
  coming in. He starts to walk in, walks
• 1:06:05
  through the hallway, and then he trips on like the little ramp
• 1:06:07
  thing at the back there and stumbles up towards the sliding
• 1:06:10
  door, and then Leatherface pops up and he's right there.
• 1:06:13
  Yeah, he's just there. Boom.
• 1:06:16
  And then Kirk twitches for a minute, and then Leatherface
• 1:06:19
  just slams that door shut. He gives him with a second hit.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah, like finish him off. Oh my God, it's the most
• 1:06:24
  effective intro to a horror villain ever.
• 1:06:27
  It is. It's so fast and it's so.
• 1:06:30
  Impactful. That's the thing, Yeah.
• 1:06:31
  It catches you off guard because you're not expecting that.
• 1:06:34
  And then it's just over with like that and you're like, what
• 1:06:37
  the fuck? Did I just watch?
• 1:06:38
  What happened? And Pam goes in.
• 1:06:41
  And this is the thing with Pam. I'll talk about it in a second.
• 1:06:46
  I probably should have included it in my absurd, but I forgot
• 1:06:49
  about it until just now. Yes.
• 1:06:50
  So she goes in and she's looking around for Kirk, which at this
• 1:06:53
  point that door is shut, so she doesn't look in the red hallway.
• 1:06:57
  She stumbles into a room that's just covered in chicken feathers
• 1:07:01
  and bones. Yeah, and I don't know, cuz this
• 1:07:05
  happens a couple of times with her where she stares around in
• 1:07:09
  horror for like 45 seconds before she makes a sound.
• 1:07:14
  Yeah. And I can't tell if it's like a
• 1:07:16
  direction, like, OK, we need to get establishing shots and then
• 1:07:19
  you can freak out. We just don't want you screaming
• 1:07:20
  into your mic the whole time. Or if it's just like Pam has
• 1:07:25
  delayed responses because she does that later when she pops
• 1:07:27
  out from the freezer and it's like a pop out and the person is
• 1:07:30
  like, Oh my goodness. And then she goes.
• 1:07:33
  That right there. OK, so the first .1 I think that
• 1:07:39
  they she's slowly realizing what it is.
• 1:07:43
  It takes a minute for it to set in for her.
• 1:07:46
  And the second I fall into a pile of feathers, I'm freaking
• 1:07:48
  out. Nobody expects that.
• 1:07:50
  Ever. She's pretty OK, so give her a
• 1:07:55
  grace period to adjust. Here.
• 1:07:57
  All right. And second, I think, but that
• 1:08:00
  one scene I thought she was dead.
• 1:08:04
  I know cuz she pops up. I know, but.
• 1:08:07
  And she was like banging on the inside of it first, but she.
• 1:08:10
  Wasn't she's not reacting cuz when he opens up the thing she's
• 1:08:14
  just laying there with her arms together and she's wifeless.
• 1:08:19
  Listen, I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:08:20
  I delayed reaction Pam. Even after death, yeah.
• 1:08:27
  So yeah, she she eventually she stumbles out of the chicken room
• 1:08:30
  and Leatherface grabs her and puts her on a meat hook and then
• 1:08:33
  just chops up Kirk in front of her.
• 1:08:36
  And then he needs to go take a minute.
• 1:08:39
  He's just had two intruders in his home.
• 1:08:41
  Oh wait, he's this. Isn't the part where he freaks
• 1:08:43
  out? Yeah, that's when Jerry comes
• 1:08:45
  in. OK.
• 1:08:46
  Right here we just cut after. He's like, sorry, sorry.
• 1:08:48
  Yeah, yeah, you're right. We cut to Jerry teasing
• 1:08:51
  Franklin. He's like, yeah, no, the
• 1:08:53
  hitchhiker is coming and get you.
• 1:08:54
  And he was like, no, seriously, Do you think he goes?
• 1:08:56
  Yeah, Franklin, I gave him your address.
• 1:09:00
  Dude, I like Jerry. He's, he's just like the kind of
• 1:09:03
  guy that just like, he kind of stirs the pot.
• 1:09:05
  I feel like Jerry and Sally have probably also been together long
• 1:09:08
  enough that Jerry has gotten enough of a dose of Franklin and
• 1:09:11
  he knows exactly how to talk. To him, yeah, yeah, he.
• 1:09:15
  Yep. He's like, he's like, I'm not
• 1:09:16
  like, you're basically a brother at this point and he's.
• 1:09:18
  Got to wean into, yeah, you can't even take Franklin
• 1:09:21
  seriously. You just got to like fuck with
• 1:09:22
  him. So he's like, OK, like I'm going
• 1:09:24
  to go check on Kirk and Pam and then Sally's like, can I come
• 1:09:29
  with you? He's like, no, you got to stay
• 1:09:31
  with Franklin. I need him.
• 1:09:33
  He's like so quick. She's like no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah, well cuz he knew that if Sally came that Franklin would
• 1:09:38
  insist on coming. Here.
• 1:09:40
  Yeah, cuz he's freaked out. Yeah, he knows Franklin.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah, and so Sally's just like she's tired and she's frustrated
• 1:09:45
  and she doesn't want to be alone with Franklin anymore either,
• 1:09:48
  like. She's like, I gotta.
• 1:09:51
  And like she is, she is exercising all kinds of patience
• 1:09:54
  and restraint. Like, considering the fact that
• 1:09:57
  they've got to be agitated, they don't have gas, it's overly hot,
• 1:10:01
  and Franklin has just been whining non-stop.
• 1:10:04
  This is one of those parts because like, we stay with him
• 1:10:07
  for a little bit and he's just there.
• 1:10:08
  He's like, Sally, do you think they're ever going to come back?
• 1:10:11
  Sally, Sally. And he's like, what is it?
• 1:10:13
  Franklin's like how? Nothing.
• 1:10:16
  That's the worst. That's the fucking worst one.
• 1:10:21
  Cuz like he senses he overstepped and she goes no
• 1:10:24
  Franklin, I'm just tired. And she starts to try to walk
• 1:10:27
  away and goes, Sally, where are you going?
• 1:10:28
  Wait, wait, Sally. Sally.
• 1:10:33
  God, man, he, he is a whole lot. He is, He is.
• 1:10:38
  So like I said, two truths can exist at I also.
• 1:10:42
  Like how they also like separately away from them, they
• 1:10:45
  kind of take jabs at Franklin. They're like, how did Franklin
• 1:10:48
  get down here? When they're at the pond?
• 1:10:49
  It's like, I don't know. They must have carried him when
• 1:10:51
  he was little. And Curt's like Franklin never
• 1:10:52
  was. So Jerry, he's walking along, he
• 1:10:59
  stumbles, and we're getting some sunset now.
• 1:11:01
  So the day has passed and he makes it to the house when it's
• 1:11:04
  like the golden hour. Yeah, he gets in there and he's
• 1:11:08
  looking around. He finds the the meat hook.
• 1:11:11
  It's no longer got Pam on it, but it's got Pam's blood.
• 1:11:15
  Kirk has been cleared off the table as well, so he's kind of
• 1:11:18
  looking around. Then he hears a banging inside
• 1:11:19
  of the freezer and that's when he opens it up.
• 1:11:24
  Pam is in there. Yeah.
• 1:11:25
  And then Leatherface comes in and just hits him a couple of
• 1:11:27
  times. So this whole thing, they kept
• 1:11:31
  him hidden so they wouldn't know what he looked like, OK?
• 1:11:34
  And they wanted genuine reactions.
• 1:11:36
  Had they met Gunnar Hanson at all yet?
• 1:11:37
  Do you know? I don't think so because he's a
• 1:11:41
  big. Dude, that would be like that
• 1:11:43
  alone, like the size and then also you see the mask he's
• 1:11:46
  wearing. Believe it or not, he wasn't
• 1:11:48
  even the first pig. Really.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah, they had a guy and then like Toby Hooper, like saw him.
• 1:11:54
  He's like, dude, you would have been great for a killer, but we
• 1:11:56
  already got a guy. But apparently, whenever he came
• 1:11:58
  to shooting, the guy that was originally Weather Face got
• 1:12:01
  drunk and, like, refused to leave his motel.
• 1:12:06
  So they're like, we need you bad.
• 1:12:08
  So yeah, that's how we got Gunner.
• 1:12:10
  Wow. But yeah, apparently, like,
• 1:12:12
  during this scene here, there's a guy below Jerry there.
• 1:12:17
  He's supposed to, like, grab his waist and pull him that way he
• 1:12:21
  knows when to react to Leatherface.
• 1:12:22
  And they're like, you know, stumble back.
• 1:12:25
  But apparently like he was so freaked out by looking at him at
• 1:12:27
  this part that he actually like ran out of the house and ruined.
• 1:12:31
  The shot. Which I would be too.
• 1:12:33
  It's so fucking freaky. And then yeah, he like bashes
• 1:12:36
  Jerry. And then this is when he has his
• 1:12:38
  little freak out. He's like where the fuck are
• 1:12:39
  these people coming from? He doesn't.
• 1:12:41
  I wouldn't even call it a freak out.
• 1:12:42
  This is like almost a moment of like existential dread because
• 1:12:46
  he like he does, he does the deed and he goes and he sits in
• 1:12:49
  the room. He's got his little rocking
• 1:12:51
  chair is angled towards the window.
• 1:12:54
  And he just kind of like puts his head in his hands and he
• 1:12:57
  looks so sad. But then he does almost like a
• 1:13:01
  Florence Pugh as May queen. We're like, he's upset.
• 1:13:06
  And then he kind of like, has a little smile on his teeth.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so it is night time
• 1:13:15
  and Sally is getting worried so she is wanting to go check on
• 1:13:20
  Jerry. But Frank was like, look, let's
• 1:13:23
  just go and like we'll come back for them.
• 1:13:26
  I don't know Franklin more his character here.
• 1:13:30
  He's he's willing to leave a man, but yeah, he doesn't care.
• 1:13:33
  Yeah, well, and like also he's like, well, let's just give it
• 1:13:35
  another minute. And he's like, let me honk the
• 1:13:38
  horn, Jerry. He likes to say they're knocking
• 1:13:43
  with Y. Yeah, because he can really,
• 1:13:45
  like lay on. Yeah, you know, he couldn't have
• 1:13:47
  gone pain. Pain.
• 1:13:50
  Yeah, he's like, that doesn't have a ring to it, does it?
• 1:13:53
  So like, he gets into the driver's seat and he freaks out
• 1:13:56
  because they took the keys. Jerry took the keys.
• 1:13:59
  So Sally's like, OK, I'm going to go give me the flashlight.
• 1:14:03
  And Franklin will not give her the flashlight.
• 1:14:05
  And then finally she's because he's like, I'll go with you and
• 1:14:07
  she's like, I can't push you. He's like, it's fine, I'll push
• 1:14:12
  myself. And she's like about to just
• 1:14:15
  walk and he's like forcing himself to come along.
• 1:14:17
  And guess who's pushing him by the time they get to the dried
• 1:14:21
  up stream? Yep.
• 1:14:22
  Sally has to push him, yeah. They cut through a certain point
• 1:14:28
  and then this whole thing right here.
• 1:14:31
  I just want to point out the way Sally shouts Jerry.
• 1:14:35
  I like it 'cause it like she gets throaty on part of it.
• 1:14:38
  She's like Jerry have. You ever heard of the the
• 1:14:44
  husband calling competition where it's like, it's like a
• 1:14:51
  bunch of like women usually from the South and it's done at like
• 1:14:56
  talent festivals where like they'll like call their name
• 1:14:59
  like Harold, basically. And this is kind of like like
• 1:15:03
  Sally would have been a shoot in for it.
• 1:15:04
  Yeah. Yeah, see that?
• 1:15:07
  This is my favorite shot of the movie.
• 1:15:10
  This whole thing, like mostly the shot before Weatherface pops
• 1:15:14
  out, but the way that the trees are there and the way with the
• 1:15:18
  lighting and the flashlight, it almost looks like it's painted.
• 1:15:22
  I feel like I'm looking at an animation cell, OK?
• 1:15:27
  Like it looks really, really cool.
• 1:15:29
  The colors like the purple trees and stuff like that.
• 1:15:32
  I don't know. I feel like they really, really
• 1:15:33
  captured a really cool scene here.
• 1:15:36
  But they're like, yeah, they're going down the forest.
• 1:15:39
  They're yelling for Jerry. And then Franklin was like, wait
• 1:15:41
  a minute, I hear something. And Sally keeps like, shushing
• 1:15:44
  and brushing him off. And then he says he's like, no
• 1:15:47
  Sally, really. There's something out there.
• 1:15:49
  And then right as soon as he finishes that Leatherface just
• 1:15:52
  pops out starts chainsaw on Franklin.
• 1:15:55
  Yep, and it is one of the best jump scares.
• 1:15:57
  It's yeah, it's really effective.
• 1:15:59
  Like I know it's coming, but every single time he gets me.
• 1:16:02
  It's so good, yeah. And so Sally goes running and
• 1:16:05
  she eventually makes her way into the house and that's where
• 1:16:08
  when she runs it, she closes the front door, locks it, and that
• 1:16:12
  isn't going to stop a man with a chainsaw for long, but it's
• 1:16:15
  enough for her to get upstairs and find essentially 2 mummies
• 1:16:19
  open A room. Yeah, one of them living,
• 1:16:21
  surprisingly, Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:16:23
  And she's, like, asking them for help.
• 1:16:24
  Like, come on, man, they're not gonna do anything.
• 1:16:26
  I mean, one of those looks like Missus Bates, you know what I
• 1:16:30
  mean? It's a skeleton.
• 1:16:31
  Basically, yeah. So she starts to run back
• 1:16:33
  downstairs, but this is where Leatherface is like already like
• 1:16:37
  mowed down the door. I like his reaction because he
• 1:16:39
  looks up there and he jumps himself to.
• 1:16:42
  Go. He wasn't prepared to see her,
• 1:16:43
  like, coming back down the stairs, like, yeah.
• 1:16:45
  And so she turns right back around, runs, and she jumps
• 1:16:49
  through one of the Windows 0. My God, yeah.
• 1:16:51
  And then he's just like looking down like, why the fuck did you
• 1:16:54
  do that? Yeah, he's like, I don't like,
• 1:16:56
  I'm not gonna do that. Like, I just get out of my
• 1:16:59
  house. Like, you know, that's all you
• 1:17:01
  had to do was not be in my house.
• 1:17:03
  She runs. She hits a tree as she's
• 1:17:05
  running. And so he almost catches up to
• 1:17:08
  her, but she gets up, runs, and she gets to the gas.
• 1:17:11
  She gets to the gas station. Yep and then like she makes it
• 1:17:14
  in and he just doesn't follow. Yeah, and she, she doesn't
• 1:17:18
  really question it too much. She's just telling the owner.
• 1:17:20
  She's like, hey, we got to we got to call the police.
• 1:17:22
  We got to call the police. Franklin's dead.
• 1:17:24
  I don't know who else is dead, but we got to get the police.
• 1:17:26
  And he's like, well, we don't have a phone here.
• 1:17:28
  I have to get my truck and we'll have to drive to Childress.
• 1:17:32
  It's OK, it's OK. Let me go get the truck.
• 1:17:35
  And she's sitting there and she's watching the barbecue and
• 1:17:38
  I was trying real hard to see what was in the BBQ too.
• 1:17:42
  She looked like she noticed something there and I couldn't
• 1:17:44
  tell. Did she see like people body
• 1:17:47
  parts? I didn't see people, but I don't
• 1:17:49
  know what barbecue in a BBQ pit looks like.
• 1:17:52
  As you remember, I'm famously vegan.
• 1:17:55
  It looks like me. Yeah, like, I don't, I don't
• 1:17:57
  know. I don't know what's what it's
• 1:18:00
  supposed to look like versus what I should be looking like
• 1:18:02
  for human. It didn't, OK, It didn't jump
• 1:18:05
  out to me. Nothing looked out of the
• 1:18:07
  ordinary to me. But then again, I could have
• 1:18:10
  missed something too. But it looked like she noticed
• 1:18:12
  something there. But then he comes back, old man,
• 1:18:15
  cook, owner, whatever you want to call cook, He's got a gunny
• 1:18:18
  sack. Yes.
• 1:18:19
  And she knows immediately. And she started screaming.
• 1:18:22
  She's trying to fight him. She's not going down without a
• 1:18:25
  fight. And this is where Sally, like,
• 1:18:26
  really gets me. Like, yeah, because she is.
• 1:18:30
  She's been through it. She just ran 2 miles.
• 1:18:34
  She is. She's wild.
• 1:18:37
  She's got a knife too. She picks up the blade.
• 1:18:40
  And then because I, I always forget because I'm always like,
• 1:18:43
  why did he attack her with a broom?
• 1:18:45
  That that's an interesting weapon choice, But I remember he
• 1:18:48
  just grabbed the broom because he needed something to sneak it
• 1:18:51
  out of her. Hand.
• 1:18:52
  Yeah, he's just like, yeah, he's just hitting her with a broom.
• 1:18:54
  It feels very much. It gives me the same vibes as
• 1:18:57
  like when Angela is shoving the cheerleader down into the the
• 1:19:03
  portafotty with the stick and she's like.
• 1:19:05
  Whack, whack. It looks silly, right?
• 1:19:07
  Yeah. It doesn't look like it should
• 1:19:09
  hurt, but it like, knocks her out.
• 1:19:10
  And like the Cook's actor, I can't remember his name.
• 1:19:15
  Jim Sitow. Apparently he was pulling his
• 1:19:17
  like hits with this and like it was looking even more fake than
• 1:19:20
  this. So they're like, no, you have to
• 1:19:22
  actually like hit her. So this actually like bruised
• 1:19:24
  her up. Poor Marilyn.
• 1:19:26
  She had like black eyes from this.
• 1:19:27
  She went through it with. She did.
• 1:19:31
  So yeah, they they get her stacked up and tied.
• 1:19:34
  Up. She had also just run into a
• 1:19:35
  tree too, so it's probably a little bit easier to knock her
• 1:19:37
  out. That's true.
• 1:19:38
  Yeah, that's true. She's been through a while here,
• 1:19:40
  so he's got her tied up in the truck they're driving off.
• 1:19:44
  He's like poking at her as they're driving the truck.
• 1:19:47
  He's kind of having a good time. Mean.
• 1:19:48
  Yeah, like I'm just going poking more.
• 1:19:51
  And then for a minute I was like, why does she live and the
• 1:19:54
  rest die so quickly? And then we learned that the
• 1:19:57
  hitchhiker is also part of the family.
• 1:19:59
  He's Leatherface's brother. He was supposed to be there
• 1:20:01
  babysitting. I'm so in not babysitting but.
• 1:20:05
  Their whole dynamic is weird. I think they're all brothers.
• 1:20:08
  Yeah, yeah. Which is weird because the cook
• 1:20:10
  is older. He's a lot older, but it could
• 1:20:13
  just be one of those like. We've seen.
• 1:20:16
  Sometimes there are AG apps like.
• 1:20:18
  That we've seen the grandpa here, the grandpa's like a
• 1:20:20
  century older than all. Yeah.
• 1:20:23
  Grandpa is Nosferatu. Yeah, well, count Warlock.
• 1:20:27
  OK. Well, I just I did a bad thing.
• 1:20:32
  OK, so he he stumbles upon the hitch tracker and the hitchhiker
• 1:20:38
  is kind of giving him shit, and then he's giving the hitchhiker
• 1:20:41
  shit because apparently he was supposed to show up and help
• 1:20:44
  with the whole situation. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:46
  And he wasn't supposed to leave the brother alone.
• 1:20:48
  He almost got caught as being the new grave robber.
• 1:20:52
  And yeah, so now, like, they don't know if all of these
• 1:20:55
  teenagers got caught or not. So when they go inside, they do
• 1:20:57
  their Three stooges act between the three of them.
• 1:21:00
  And you know, he's really kind of girl on leather faces.
• 1:21:04
  Like, did you get all of them? Do you know if you got all of
• 1:21:06
  them? Leatherface now has like a
• 1:21:08
  grandma. Yeah, he's got the grandma fro.
• 1:21:11
  Yeah, well, it's, it's a nice black though.
• 1:21:13
  Like it's not white like. No, this is white.
• 1:21:16
  Black is the Pretty Woman face. He changes again.
• 1:21:18
  After this and now he's got the. The grandma look, because he's
• 1:21:21
  got like the apron on, like the it's different from the apron he
• 1:21:26
  was wearing before. He's changed his look up a
• 1:21:27
  little bit here. And yeah, he's scolding the
• 1:21:29
  leather face because he ruin the door and then I feel bad for
• 1:21:33
  Leatherface a little bit here. Honestly, like I kind of feel
• 1:21:37
  bad for Leatherface throughout all of it.
• 1:21:40
  Yeah, I mean, like, honestly, a tragic character.
• 1:21:43
  It's nature versus nurture. And he got, he didn't get
• 1:21:46
  nurture, you know? They tie Sally up.
• 1:21:51
  And then they got to go get Grandpa.
• 1:21:54
  And then this is where they give him some blood to suck.
• 1:21:57
  He does this like happy. Hungry Girl pants.
• 1:22:00
  And the grandpa, they say that grandpa's the best.
• 1:22:03
  So like they do their whole dinner thing.
• 1:22:04
  Sally's screaming. We we have like 5 minutes of
• 1:22:07
  just them just like laughing, screaming, crying, whatever.
• 1:22:10
  It's interesting because like, I like the little, like, power
• 1:22:12
  dynamic here between the hitchhiker and the cook because
• 1:22:15
  he's like, yeah, like the hitchhiker, he's like sliding
• 1:22:18
  over to Sally and like kind of giving her the one.
• 1:22:20
  And I was like, he doesn't do anything.
• 1:22:22
  Me and Leatherface, we're the ones that actually do shit
• 1:22:24
  around here. He just cooks and then.
• 1:22:26
  He's like never had the stomach for murder.
• 1:22:28
  Yeah, he's like, I just can't do it.
• 1:22:30
  And then he's like, OK, well, we gotta go take care of her.
• 1:22:33
  And the hitchhiker's like, well, no, I had an idea, let's let
• 1:22:37
  Grandpa have some fun. And I say that he's the best.
• 1:22:41
  Callum and Win Blow. Yeah, and he used to.
• 1:22:44
  One time he set the record, he did 60 and 5 minutes.
• 1:22:47
  Would have done faster if the hook and pull got the beeves out
• 1:22:53
  of the way faster. Is that an acceptable plural of
• 1:22:57
  beef? Beeves.
• 1:22:58
  Beeves it's it was on the captions.
• 1:23:02
  I noticed that I didn't know that that was.
• 1:23:03
  I didn't I? My mind didn't jump to that
• 1:23:06
  being, but that was. It's the only thing that it
• 1:23:08
  could possibly make sense. I thought it was, well, I
• 1:23:10
  thought it could have been some kind of slaughterhouse
• 1:23:12
  terminology that neither of us are familiar with.
• 1:23:14
  I'm. Gonna look it up, I'm gonna
• 1:23:16
  Google. It right now we're here.
• 1:23:17
  Yeah, let's do this. And dip in the toe.
• 1:23:20
  Yes, it is in fact the plural of beef, the flesh of a cow, bull
• 1:23:24
  or ox used as food. These motherfuckers are
• 1:23:26
  cultured. Well, they just know their
• 1:23:29
  industry vocabulary. Yeah, I'm, I'm impressed.
• 1:23:32
  They taught us all right, So they get like a little blood
• 1:23:35
  bucket and they get grandpa there and they like just drag
• 1:23:39
  Sally and hang her over the bucket and they're just handing
• 1:23:42
  him the sledgehammer he just keeps.
• 1:23:44
  Way too much faith in him because they don't have her very
• 1:23:48
  well secured because they're like grandpa will get her in one
• 1:23:50
  hit and we got like seven hits and only one has actually made
• 1:23:53
  connections. He's not even like they're like
• 1:23:55
  Weatherface is picking up his arm and doing it all for him,
• 1:23:58
  but like letting him like letting go.
• 1:23:59
  So like he has like the. Momentum.
• 1:24:01
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just it's not worth.
• 1:24:04
  But like, it does eventually hit Sally at one point and kind of
• 1:24:07
  daze her, but she takes a moment and she frees.
• 1:24:10
  Herself. Yeah.
• 1:24:11
  When she's dazed, the old man kind of loosens his grip on her,
• 1:24:15
  and then she gets free. She jumps through another
• 1:24:18
  window. Yeah, that's just her thing.
• 1:24:19
  Yeah, like we've established that the door is cut all the
• 1:24:23
  shit, it doesn't function as a door anymore.
• 1:24:25
  It's a hole in the wall. Could have run through that.
• 1:24:27
  No, we're going through another. One.
• 1:24:28
  It's impressive how little she cuts herself doing this though.
• 1:24:31
  Yeah, this is one of those that like it was very, very obvious
• 1:24:34
  that it was fake glass half a moment, which I mean, yes, it
• 1:24:39
  should be. But yeah, sugar glass, it's just
• 1:24:42
  one of those. It was like, wow, this really
• 1:24:43
  doesn't look like glass right now.
• 1:24:45
  Yeah, and she's running down their long driveway.
• 1:24:48
  Hitchhiker is following her with his little switchblade.
• 1:24:51
  Or not switchblade that razor. Blade.
• 1:24:53
  Yeah, the little straight razor. Cutting her up as she's running.
• 1:24:56
  Yeah. And then she runs through the
• 1:24:57
  middle of a road and an 18 Wheeler is coming by and
• 1:25:01
  hitchhiker freezes. Yeah.
• 1:25:03
  And he he freezes in the middle of the road and he gets like
• 1:25:06
  tore up under nine of those 18 wheels.
• 1:25:09
  Yep, Yep. And then?
• 1:25:12
  Poor poor truck driver. This guy went through it.
• 1:25:14
  He accidentally killed a man and then he like, is trying to help.
• 1:25:17
  Somebody. Yeah.
• 1:25:18
  He sees this crazed, bloody woman trying to climb up in his
• 1:25:21
  driver's side. He's like, yeah, no, for sure,
• 1:25:22
  come here. And then Leatherface comes and
• 1:25:25
  he's like, OK, let's go out this door.
• 1:25:26
  They go out the passenger door. They start running.
• 1:25:29
  Leatherface is chasing him. He turns around.
• 1:25:32
  Why does he have a wrench in his hand?
• 1:25:33
  Nobody knows. He grabbed it, He grabbed it.
• 1:25:34
  There's a shot of it and he was in like the cab of his truck
• 1:25:37
  there. Why?
• 1:25:39
  Dude, when you're on the road, you kind of need shit.
• 1:25:43
  A lot of people live in those trucks for a while, so they
• 1:25:45
  keep, like, supplies like that. Like, you need to, like, fix
• 1:25:47
  your truck. Yeah.
• 1:25:48
  I've got a wrench set in my car. It's not in my passenger seat
• 1:25:52
  and the wrench is not loose. Well, I guess you're more
• 1:25:54
  organized and you're more prone to being killed by weather
• 1:25:56
  facing this scenario. Damn, I'm sorry, you need to
• 1:26:00
  run. I can't.
• 1:26:01
  Argue I can't argue with. That wrench, yeah.
• 1:26:03
  So he takes it, throws to that leather face, hits it right
• 1:26:06
  square in the face. Which makes him fall backwards
• 1:26:10
  and when he falls he drops his chainsaw and the chainsaw falls
• 1:26:12
  onto his leg. So that pisses him off.
• 1:26:17
  And then a pickup truck drops by and this guy's like, what?
• 1:26:23
  And she just climbs into the bed of the truck.
• 1:26:26
  She's like, go, go. Yeah, what entire nation?
• 1:26:28
  I like how like the the truck driver doesn't even get
• 1:26:31
  considered, he just keeps and he doesn't even consider getting in
• 1:26:35
  the bed of this truck. He just keeps running.
• 1:26:36
  Well and that's why like cuz I was taking notes and I thought
• 1:26:38
  maybe I missed where he died or something.
• 1:26:41
  And you're like, no, he's just still running.
• 1:26:42
  Yeah, we see him just continue to run down the road.
• 1:26:45
  He just doesn't give a fuck. And Sally can barely make it
• 1:26:48
  into the bed of the truck, and Weatherface is, like, limping
• 1:26:51
  right behind her, and she gets in just in the nick of time.
• 1:26:55
  And this causes Weatherface to do his Weatherface dance.
• 1:26:59
  Yeah, it's chainsaw dance, which is beautiful.
• 1:27:02
  One of the best endings, too. I love how it's just kind of
• 1:27:04
  abrupt and crazy there, just like this movie was, you know?
• 1:27:07
  It was very fitting. Man, it's you guys.
• 1:27:11
  It's only going to get Wilder from here.
• 1:27:13
  With the exception of one. 2 is we're getting you thought they
• 1:27:19
  ramped up the camp with child's play.
• 1:27:22
  They ramp it up hard after this one.
• 1:27:25
  Good Lord. Yeah, that's how it ends.
• 1:27:29
  Yeah, OK. So keep in mind that's in.
• 1:27:32
  OK, I think I will bump mine up to 9.75.
• 1:27:35
  OK, so that gives us a 9.875. OK.
• 1:27:44
  I think, yeah, really it would just be like that pacing right
• 1:27:47
  there at the end. Yeah, I can get it.
• 1:27:50
  It holds it back its head. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:52
  I mean, like the I, we set the tone for the derangement of the
• 1:27:56
  dinner scene and like, I get that.
• 1:27:57
  But like the tone was set in the first like 30 seconds.
• 1:28:01
  You know what? I.
• 1:28:01
  Mean yeah, we didn't need yeah as much as we did.
• 1:28:03
  It didn't need a dragon. If you're gonna do that, like
• 1:28:06
  have some variety and shit happening, you know, because
• 1:28:09
  it's just that. OK, Talia, throughout this
• 1:28:16
  movie, she was, she was very needy.
• 1:28:18
  Yeah, she was very needy. She wanted attention throughout
• 1:28:21
  the whole beginning. And then once the death started,
• 1:28:25
  We've referred to her smut wall before.
• 1:28:27
  This time we called it her scare Barrier, AKA The Scarier.
• 1:28:30
  Scarier, yeah. So she she was very frightened
• 1:28:33
  by this movie. It was a very effective movie
• 1:28:34
  for her. So I think she would give this,
• 1:28:38
  I think she would give it a nine.
• 1:28:40
  Yeah, OK, yeah, she a car trip gone wrong.
• 1:28:47
  Yeah, it works for her. I think that would.
• 1:28:48
  Yeah, it would work for her. But also it kind of makes her
• 1:28:51
  sad about car trips. Yeah.
• 1:28:53
  So Zoe. 'S ultimate warrior.
• 1:28:55
  Zoe's ultimate warrior. Man, I hate to say it.
• 1:28:59
  Leatherface do we give the role for that?
• 1:29:02
  This too. We can't say Leatherface for
• 1:29:03
  every single. One, we can't say Leatherface
• 1:29:05
  for every single one of them. But here's the thing.
• 1:29:08
  Is it Leatherface or is it the Hitchhiker?
• 1:29:12
  Or it could be the cook because he loves to eat.
• 1:29:14
  Also that, but no Zoe has a stomach for killing.
• 1:29:17
  She likes to chew on people. Exactly.
• 1:29:20
  Yeah, but she has the stomach for killing.
• 1:29:22
  That's true. She does, yeah.
• 1:29:23
  She can kill. She kills all the bugs in her
• 1:29:25
  house. So I think, I think it's the
• 1:29:28
  hitchhiker honestly, cuz like when she's hungry, she's real
• 1:29:32
  talkative. That's.
• 1:29:34
  True, she will just reach out and she'll she'll bite you.
• 1:29:37
  She's trying to cut you and I think if she had a camera she
• 1:29:41
  would take a picture and try and charge us money.
• 1:29:44
  No, I think you're right, if we were to map out the dynamic
• 1:29:47
  between the three of them out there, between the three of
• 1:29:48
  those characters, Zoe said. Tracker Scouts.
• 1:29:51
  The code man, yeah. And stop calling him old man.
• 1:29:54
  It's the. Cook.
• 1:29:55
  That's what he's listed as. That it's just false.
• 1:30:00
  It's just false. It's the cook.
• 1:30:02
  OK, I will accept no less. And Talia obviously led the face
• 1:30:07
  because she's the biggest. And she's going to protect.
• 1:30:09
  The house, Yeah. And she has multiple
• 1:30:12
  personalities with outfits. I guess I don't.
• 1:30:15
  Know she builds her smut wall and her scariers so she can
• 1:30:19
  build furniture. Yeah, OK.
• 1:30:22
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:30:23
  So all right, we got that now. Who did you relate to?
• 1:30:29
  Who did I relate to? I I think I related to Jerry
• 1:30:36
  because of the whole fucking with people type thing.
• 1:30:38
  I like to like, yeah, I like to do that.
• 1:30:41
  Like if it's like, if I find like a fun target to do that to
• 1:30:44
  not like malicious or anything, but it's fun to just like I'll
• 1:30:48
  do it to you. Sometimes, you know, I'll fuck
• 1:30:49
  with you, but it's fun. It's fun to toy with people like
• 1:30:52
  that. OK, I feel like I probably.
• 1:31:03
  I mean, I probably relate to Sally because I'm also a
• 1:31:06
  Capricorn and I also sometimes get real frustrated and I have
• 1:31:12
  to say I'm just tired. That's true.
• 1:31:15
  Yeah, I was gonna say. And this is one that we both
• 1:31:17
  also relate to, so it's no jabs but Franklin for having to stop
• 1:31:22
  and pee so often. Also that, yeah, yeah, that's,
• 1:31:26
  that's very real. OK.
• 1:31:29
  Well, those are all good right there.
• 1:31:31
  They're solid. All right, so no dream sequel,
• 1:31:36
  but we can do a label for this one.
• 1:31:38
  Yeah, We decided because we don't do dream sequels for our
• 1:31:41
  franchise movies that that's a little bit that we do for most
• 1:31:45
  of our movies that we cover. But when we do our franchise
• 1:31:48
  movies, we don't do a dream sequel.
• 1:31:50
  We because we know we're going to be going through all of them.
• 1:31:53
  We don't want to put ourselves in a position where we have to
• 1:31:56
  try and out think what the next one is.
• 1:31:59
  Instead, for this one, because I have such a hard time
• 1:32:01
  remembering which movie is which, we decided that we're
• 1:32:04
  going to come up with a label, nickname, whatever, to help me
• 1:32:08
  parse this out. So that way when we're all is
• 1:32:11
  said and done and we can go back to watching these casually more
• 1:32:14
  easily. Travis has a handy Rolodex.
• 1:32:17
  And then this can also help other people that have a hard
• 1:32:20
  time differentiating these movies as well.
• 1:32:22
  Yeah. So if you're struggling the
• 1:32:25
  first one, I think it's the obvious most fitting OG.
• 1:32:28
  Yeah, the classic. We'll call this the OG Texas
• 1:32:31
  Chainsaw here. That's the easiest to drill in.
• 1:32:34
  You know it, yeah. OK, that one is easy.
• 1:32:37
  Yeah, we'll get there. I've already got ideas for some
• 1:32:40
  of these other ones, what they call them.
• 1:32:41
  Yeah, yeah, I've got the ones that I already call them certain
• 1:32:47
  things, so that'll be easy. Like we've got do your thing cuz
• 1:32:51
  that's exclusively how I refer to that movie.
• 1:32:53
  I couldn't tell you the name of that movie right now if you
• 1:32:54
  asked me to. Seriously, it's got Texas and
• 1:32:56
  Chainsaw in it. You just said it, Texas Chainsaw
• 1:33:02
  3D. You gotta have the 3D too.
• 1:33:04
  Also, I mean 3D isn't the easy one to distinguish.
• 1:33:07
  Nope, because I don't think of it as a 3D movie that doesn't.
• 1:33:10
  That's not effective for me. You've tried that before,
• 1:33:12
  remember? And I've been like, which one is
• 1:33:13
  that? That's.
• 1:33:14
  True. OK, OK.
• 1:33:16
  All right, tagline. Tagline this is This is tricky
• 1:33:20
  because they get a lot of really good ones.
• 1:33:21
  They got some of the most classic taglines.
• 1:33:30
  Put on your brave face. That's a good one.
• 1:33:36
  You'll need your brave face. You'll need to bring your brave
• 1:33:39
  face. Face your fears.
• 1:33:42
  Whoo, that's good. Yeah.
• 1:33:45
  All right. There we go.
• 1:33:47
  Man, that was easy. Yes.
• 1:33:49
  OK, cool. We have to avoid face puns, for
• 1:33:52
  we can't do that for all of them.
• 1:33:53
  But yeah, OK, sometimes it's a little too easy.
• 1:33:58
  Yeah, it's true. All right, I guess that means
• 1:34:01
  it's time for reviews. Yeah.
• 1:34:03
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:34:04
  All right. I pulled an IMDb review.
• 1:34:09
  Let me see. Let me pull it up.
• 1:34:11
  OK. This is a one out of 10 on IMDb.
• 1:34:15
  It's a user review and this was from 2004.
• 1:34:18
  OK. OK, honestly, I thought it was a
• 1:34:22
  joke. I don't think this was seriously
• 1:34:25
  the movie everyone raved about. It's terrible.
• 1:34:27
  I mean, it's really, really bad. How on earth anybody could enjoy
• 1:34:31
  this film is far beyond my vast, vast, incredibly vast
• 1:34:34
  understanding. OK.
• 1:34:35
  Damn, you got big brain. Big, big vast, vast brain.
• 1:34:39
  It's so, it's so bad. Vast understanding, but it's so
• 1:34:43
  bad you cannot even laugh at it. First of all, the film's
• 1:34:49
  so-called gritty look is plain and simple the result of the
• 1:34:51
  shoddiest photography this side of the 70s adult films.
• 1:34:55
  The framing is horrifically composed and makes a drunken
• 1:34:58
  wedding video look like Lawrence of Arabia.
• 1:35:00
  Come on. The sound is inaudible and the
• 1:35:02
  dialogue, worthless as it is, is nothing more than Mumbles.
• 1:35:05
  As the story develops, so does incomprehension.
• 1:35:08
  Midway through, you'll tell yourself this cannot be any more
• 1:35:11
  senseless. This cannot become any more
• 1:35:13
  senseless. Well it does, by the end you'll
• 1:35:16
  be completely lost and then it's over just like that.
• 1:35:20
  I was assuming there was half an hour left, but it just ends
• 1:35:22
  without resolving anything or giving us the payoff we deserve.
• 1:35:25
  What a ripoff. There's zero suspense,
• 1:35:28
  characters are killed almost right away leaving no room for
• 1:35:31
  excitement. Plus there's only one massacre
• 1:35:33
  with a chainsaw and you don't even see anything, and it mostly
• 1:35:36
  occurs off camera. The final chase with the one
• 1:35:38
  character that actually gets some interaction with the bad
• 1:35:40
  guy is obviously the best bit of the movie, but by this point I
• 1:35:43
  just wanted it to be over. I have no idea why so many
• 1:35:46
  people say this is a great movie or call it horror with dark
• 1:35:48
  comic edge. It's nothing of the sort.
• 1:35:50
  It's an embarrassingly amateur schlock fest that Edward himself
• 1:35:53
  would disown. Check out the 2003 remake, which
• 1:35:55
  is a zillion times better. Which is a zillion times the
• 1:35:59
  movie. This dreadful.
• 1:35:59
  Nonsenses do not come within a mile of this.
• 1:36:02
  You've been warned. I don't agree.
• 1:36:06
  I I can't, I think it's, I don't.
• 1:36:10
  Everybody has their own preference for things, but I
• 1:36:12
  feel like saying like framing and show like that was bad.
• 1:36:15
  That's an objectively false statement right there.
• 1:36:18
  That shit was good. I don't feel like you can fault
• 1:36:21
  a film from the 70s looking like it's from the 70s.
• 1:36:24
  Yeah. That's kind of an odd claim I
• 1:36:26
  will give him, you know, cuz we did talk about like once the
• 1:36:29
  killing started it was so rapid fire.
• 1:36:31
  So I could see that argument being made.
• 1:36:34
  Yeah, I could see that, yeah. And we, we both did talk about
• 1:36:37
  that, that pacing, although I thought the build up to them
• 1:36:40
  getting to the house because, you know, you're watching a
• 1:36:42
  horror movie and like, you feel the tension.
• 1:36:44
  They're in a strange place. Like you feel that, you know, so
• 1:36:48
  I, I disagree with the suspense building, but I can see some of
• 1:36:52
  that tension being lost. Yeah, quicker than you would
• 1:36:55
  want it to. Be it's weird.
• 1:36:57
  Like, I I don't know, I feel like I could be entirely wrong.
• 1:37:02
  I know there's some people that just, like, have an eye for
• 1:37:05
  newer movies. So, like, when they see movies
• 1:37:07
  like this, it's hard for them to watch.
• 1:37:09
  Yeah. I don't understand the mumble
• 1:37:11
  dialogue. Like, everything was very clear,
• 1:37:13
  clearly spoken. I there's a part of me that
• 1:37:15
  makes me wonder, did you watch a bootleg?
• 1:37:18
  Did was it a camcorder footage or something?
• 1:37:20
  I don't know, like did you fuck something up?
• 1:37:23
  Like because a lot of that stuff is just, maybe it's just because
• 1:37:26
  we watched it on a really good version.
• 1:37:27
  We got the Like the Like one of the anniversary Blu-ray editions
• 1:37:31
  out. There, I've got a theory.
• 1:37:32
  OK, It must be demons. Just kidding.
• 1:37:36
  So I think maybe this is somebody who is not from a
• 1:37:41
  southern area and he thinks like accents equal bad, equal mumble.
• 1:37:47
  And that's the thing. Like we actually get authentic
• 1:37:50
  accents. Yeah.
• 1:37:51
  Which is so rare for this type of thing.
• 1:37:53
  God, and I was, I was having this whole rant at Travis from
• 1:37:57
  the new season of White Lotus, not the theme song rant, but it
• 1:38:01
  was about like one of the like main characters, like it's a
• 1:38:05
  family of five and they're all from North Carolina, but their
• 1:38:08
  accents are not North Carolina Southern.
• 1:38:12
  And it's so frustrating. And everybody's like, wow, I'm
• 1:38:14
  really impressed at Parker Posey and Allen.
• 1:38:16
  What's his face's Southern accents?
• 1:38:18
  And I'm like, I'm not, they don't sound North Carolina.
• 1:38:22
  It's frustrating. It's.
• 1:38:23
  Weird accents. I don't have the expected accent
• 1:38:28
  for somebody from. Where I grew.
• 1:38:29
  Up but I will say I have heard other people from Harlan speak
• 1:38:34
  like me. Yeah, it's notably the Harlem
• 1:38:37
  boy on the Kentucky basketball team.
• 1:38:39
  He has my accent and I'm like, that's weird.
• 1:38:41
  Like I'm I feel good that other people from that area don't like
• 1:38:45
  they have like a similar accent to me because it's weird.
• 1:38:48
  Like you like you'll call bullshit on stuff like that, but
• 1:38:51
  like it's, it's nuanced. Yeah, and I feel like it's
• 1:38:53
  probably one of those things. Like I could tell you, like
• 1:38:55
  there's posh British accent and cockney British accent, and I
• 1:38:59
  couldn't tell you any area between them.
• 1:39:02
  Yeah, and I'm sure they exist. I fully believe they exist.
• 1:39:05
  But if you told me but he was a speaking in a certain dialect, I
• 1:39:07
  couldn't tell you if that was true or not.
• 1:39:09
  Yeah, I'd have to take you at face value.
• 1:39:11
  So I'm immediately immersed when it's an accent I'm not familiar
• 1:39:14
  with. But I do know that sometimes
• 1:39:16
  there's some, like, I want to say classism, but there is like
• 1:39:21
  a sense of that where some people think that if you're
• 1:39:25
  Southern, it automatically means that you're poorer or more
• 1:39:28
  stupid or less classy. It's just generalizations.
• 1:39:33
  Yeah. I mean, and that happens anytime
• 1:39:34
  you generalize any group of people like you.
• 1:39:36
  Just it's really, it's bad. I hate it.
• 1:39:40
  And I'm not accusing that. I'm not accusing this reviewer
• 1:39:43
  necessarily of doing that. It's just I've heard that enough
• 1:39:45
  times in my life that I wonder if him saying mumbly is really
• 1:39:48
  him just saying like they're too Southern for me to understand.
• 1:39:52
  Yeah. Yeah, I get it.
• 1:39:54
  The only thing I'll agree with is the pacing issues.
• 1:39:58
  So like, yeah, at the in there, but I also think some people
• 1:40:02
  could probably be bored by the beginning with them in the van.
• 1:40:06
  Yeah, because we spent a lot of time there.
• 1:40:08
  I I think it's interesting, but I could see why some people
• 1:40:11
  wouldn't find it. I just, I don't know, it's such
• 1:40:14
  a balancing act because you need to keep the tension going in a
• 1:40:17
  story, but also part of the movie is watching the movie
• 1:40:20
  happen. It can't just all be action the
• 1:40:22
  entire. Time, yeah, you got to have set
• 1:40:24
  up, but you also have to have like things like like go to
• 1:40:28
  micro payouts happening like all the things to keep you engaged,
• 1:40:33
  which I thought that they did. We get that.
• 1:40:34
  Yeah, we get that with the hitchhiker joining.
• 1:40:35
  Them. Yeah, I thought that they.
• 1:40:36
  Did we started off with corpses, like displayed?
• 1:40:39
  Yeah. You know, I don't know.
• 1:40:41
  All right. So let's hop over to some
• 1:40:44
  Western reviews, show we All right, so we'll go to Instagram,
• 1:40:51
  Cubesave says. Perfectly grimy.
• 1:40:53
  Yeah, it is like the perfect bit of grime there 'cause it's
• 1:40:57
  exactly what we were talking about before.
• 1:40:59
  You can feel it, you can sense it, you can smell it.
• 1:41:01
  Yeah, I don't like sweaty thinking about it, you know?
• 1:41:04
  Yeah, like, but in the like authentic kind of muggy, intense
• 1:41:08
  heat kind of way. MXRNI or I think it's supposed
• 1:41:13
  to be Marni. CM says.
• 1:41:16
  Prefer the 2003 remake to be honest.
• 1:41:18
  Oh man, you're just like Sean. And other people, I mean, I've
• 1:41:23
  heard that sentiment shared by a lot of people before.
• 1:41:26
  It's a good remake. I get it.
• 1:41:28
  If that was your first experience with the series, I
• 1:41:31
  can understand why that would have like a special place in
• 1:41:33
  your. Heart, I think that's probably,
• 1:41:35
  yeah. I think you're bringing up a
• 1:41:37
  good point with that if that's your first experience, because
• 1:41:39
  that's kind of how I am with the Hills Have Eyes.
• 1:41:41
  Same. Yeah, I like the remake better,
• 1:41:43
  but I know a lot of people love the original and I get it.
• 1:41:46
  But to me, that was my first experience with it.
• 1:41:48
  And I, after going back to It's hard going to a modern movie
• 1:41:52
  sometimes and go into an older movie because the times have
• 1:41:56
  changed and we're wired to like, you know, want certain things
• 1:42:00
  from movies and I get. It, it is like an actual
• 1:42:03
  psychological thing that the first thing your brain thinks of
• 1:42:06
  is what it holds on to. That's why those like little
• 1:42:09
  illusion things like is this a Princess or a duck?
• 1:42:12
  Like those types of pictures. That's why those work, because
• 1:42:15
  you hear one thing and then your brain sees it and then it's
• 1:42:18
  stuck on that and you have to kind of like forcibly rewire it
• 1:42:21
  to see the other other thing. And I'm not necessarily saying
• 1:42:24
  that that's what you are. No, no.
• 1:42:28
  Yeah, because like, I get it. Like, I mean, you don't have
• 1:42:30
  like you couldn't have watched the original and watch that one
• 1:42:33
  and find it better too. You know, we're we're champions
• 1:42:36
  of that. Here there's a lot more story in
• 1:42:38
  the 2003 What if? That's the one I'm thinking of.
• 1:42:40
  It might not be. I could be entirely.
• 1:42:41
  Wrong. Yeah, I've tried having this
• 1:42:46
  conversation with you many times.
• 1:42:47
  I can never distinguish. Which one is that?
• 1:42:49
  The 1:00 where they're draft dodging.
• 1:42:50
  Nope. Goddamn it.
• 1:42:52
  OK, never mind. Nope.
• 1:42:55
  That's the one where they are coming back from Mexico.
• 1:43:00
  They have the Pinato drugs with them.
• 1:43:03
  We have the guy with the lip thing.
• 1:43:09
  No, we're not gonna have this argument right now.
• 1:43:11
  We'll we'll get there eventually.
• 1:43:13
  Yeah. And see, this is what I'm
• 1:43:15
  working on with people. All right?
• 1:43:17
  But I get it. Well, like I said, we're we're
• 1:43:19
  champions of people having those sets of opinions on the show.
• 1:43:21
  So, you know, if that was your favorite, more power to you.
• 1:43:26
  All right, let's see, Do I have one here?
• 1:43:27
  No. OK, that's a that's a further
• 1:43:29
  reviews. OK, Yeah.
• 1:43:31
  I'm kind of surprised. I am too.
• 1:43:33
  I thought with a classic. We have like a lot of people,
• 1:43:36
  but maybe people thought what else is there to say?
• 1:43:39
  People have already got covered. Maybe you all don't love us.
• 1:43:41
  I don't care, you know, I don't care if you don't love me.
• 1:43:44
  Let me see. Hold on real quick.
• 1:43:46
  I took care. I'm sorry.
• 1:43:48
  Come back. I was trying to find, there's a,
• 1:43:52
  there's an episode of Scream Queens, the Ryan Murphy Scream
• 1:43:56
  Queens, where Wes is teaching a movie stud, a cinema studies
• 1:44:02
  class or whatever. And he gives a little recap on
• 1:44:06
  Texas Chainsaw and how the how it's a perfect movie and how the
• 1:44:10
  chainsaw is a perfect weapon. And I was trying to find the
• 1:44:12
  quote on it. To the best of your abilities,
• 1:44:16
  what was? It that was the best of my
• 1:44:18
  abilities. I don't have a good.
• 1:44:21
  Yeah, I got you. If you can find a clip of it and
• 1:44:22
  plug it in, depending on how much time you have editing, feel
• 1:44:25
  free to plug it in right here. I don't plan on drawing for this
• 1:44:28
  one since I've already got something down.
• 1:44:29
  So yeah, OK, cool. Yeah.
• 1:44:31
  So yeah, that was and that was the moment we were watching
• 1:44:34
  screen claims. I was like, you're gonna like
• 1:44:35
  this moment, Travis. Yeah, I remember that episode.
• 1:44:39
  Yeah. OK, cool.
• 1:44:40
  Well, thanks everybody who did. Yeah.
• 1:44:42
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• 1:44:44
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• 1:44:49
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  All right, I think that does it for this episode.
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