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FBI Raids LAUSD Superintendent’s Home | Ashley Madison is BACK! · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: La Unified School District has all kinds of problems.
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  Speaker 1: This one I didn't see coming.
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  Speaker 2: Federal authorities raided the home and office of LAUS the superintendent,
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  Speaker 2: Alberto Carvallo, and it looks like appears to be a
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  Speaker 2: probe related to a company that developed a chat bot
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  Speaker 2: called all here. It should be not here and it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's an educational chatbot for students and it was for LAUSD.
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  Speaker 2: And no detail has been provided about the investigation. However,
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  Speaker 2: one source said that it involved All Here, which is
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  Speaker 2: a failed AI company, and the company founder and the
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  Speaker 2: CEO was charged with fraud in twenty twenty four. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll see how close Carvallo is to this because there
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  Speaker 2: is a connection. Now, does that mean there's any there's
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  Speaker 2: any negative aspects to what Carvallo did. Was there a
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  Speaker 2: crime committed at this point. No, but it's one of
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  Speaker 2: those things where he is too close to what is
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  Speaker 2: going on. And if he had no criminality here and
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  Speaker 2: there's no evidence that he did, by the way, he
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  Speaker 2: is going to be singed by what's happening. There's no
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  Speaker 2: question that the fire is going to affect him to
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  Speaker 2: some extents. Now, law enforcement sources told the Time that
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  Speaker 2: the FED investigation involves Carvollo. That they did, and keep
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  Speaker 2: in mind they raided his home and office. He joined
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  Speaker 2: LAUSD in twenty twenty two. He's a nationally acclaimed educational leader.
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  Speaker 2: He came from Miami Miami Dade. He's known for improving
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  Speaker 2: academics and he and Governor Ron DeSantis really got into it.
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  Speaker 2: So here is the connection. According to public record databases,
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  Speaker 2: Deborah Kerr is a salesperson whose clients included All Here,
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  Speaker 2: she's listed as the owner of that Florida home that
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  Speaker 2: has also been rated. Now, at this point, the FBI
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  Speaker 2: has not identified her as a target of the investigation,
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  Speaker 2: but as I said, the connection is more than tenuous.
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  Speaker 2: She's a successful consult consultants the company that.
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  Speaker 1: Are looking for work with school districts.
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  Speaker 2: She has ties long ties to Carvallo, and this goes
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  Speaker 2: back to his time in Miami, and she worked as
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  Speaker 2: a consultant to all Here and has claimed in court documents.
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  Speaker 2: She has sued the company owner six hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. And there's an education news site that previously
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  Speaker 2: reported that she and all Here that they never paid
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  Speaker 2: her commission. Now also, her son is a former all
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  Speaker 2: Here account executive, so.
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  Speaker 1: There is a connection there.
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  Speaker 2: The spokesperson for the US Attorney's office said that the
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  Speaker 2: search warrant was a JUDI initially approve search warrant at
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  Speaker 2: Carvallo's home, and so there has to be some kind
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  Speaker 2: of a connection. As I said, at this point, no
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  Speaker 2: criminality at all has been even alleged, but you don't
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  Speaker 2: people don't get searched without some kind of connection, especially
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  Speaker 2: in front of a judge. Although it doesn't take much
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  Speaker 2: to get us a search warrant. One affidavit will do
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  Speaker 2: it by a law enforcement official. The founder of All Here,
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  Speaker 2: former CEO, Joanna Smith Griffin. She was arrested in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four and charged with securities fraud, wire fraud, aggravated
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  Speaker 2: identity theft. Those are the charges that always go with
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  Speaker 2: any financial crime.
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  Speaker 1: They throw the book at you.
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  Speaker 2: And by then this chatbot, the LAUSD chatbot, which was
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  Speaker 2: known as ED, that was withdrawn from service to whatever
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  Speaker 2: amount that was paid, has that money has been lost now?
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  Speaker 2: If nothing else, this indictment and collapse of All Here
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  Speaker 2: is an embarrassment for Carvallo and the school system. But
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  Speaker 2: let's look at the numbers here. Okay, the school system
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  Speaker 2: spent about three million dollars with the company for work
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  Speaker 2: as part of a contract originally worth six million dollars
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  Speaker 2: over five years. The district's budget this year is eighteen
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  Speaker 2: point eight billion dollars, So if you go five years,
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  Speaker 2: let's say that's ninety billion dollars. Six million out of
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  Speaker 2: ninety billion is literally just a drop.
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  Speaker 1: In the bucket.
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  Speaker 2: So it really isn't a question of dollars. It is
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  Speaker 2: a question of what was money stolen from a public entity?
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  Speaker 2: Was the school district ripped off? And it seems to
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  Speaker 2: have been. And it turned out that she had connections
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  Speaker 2: to Carvallo. And the other thing is which makes it
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  Speaker 2: a little bit sketchy, is when she was indicted, Carvallo
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  Speaker 2: said he's going to appoint a task force to examine
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  Speaker 2: what went wrong with this project and to chart a
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  Speaker 2: path forward. The problem is, there's no evidence that he
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  Speaker 2: ever did that.
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: And in September, a couple of months ago, the LA
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  Speaker 2: Board of Education voted unanimously to retain Carvallo for another
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  Speaker 2: four years annual salary of four hundred and forty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens as a result of that one.
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  Speaker 2: This does not bode well. I must tell you, even
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  Speaker 2: if there is no criminality involved, you do not want
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  Speaker 2: to be the subject of a search when a search
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  Speaker 2: warrant has been issued by the FBI. And in fact,
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  Speaker 2: I was in a law off. It's just a quick
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  Speaker 2: personal story. I was in a law office with a
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  Speaker 2: group of attorneys and they did federal criminal law and
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  Speaker 2: there was some kind of out and it turned out
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  Speaker 2: to be nothing, but the FBI raided the office and
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  Speaker 2: shoot us all into the conference room, wouldn't let us
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  Speaker 2: leave until the raid had been completed. And this was
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  Speaker 2: ours and that was no fun. And you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to tell the FBI. Hey, buddy, I'm leaving. You can't
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  Speaker 2: hold me here. Yeah, that you don't want to do
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  Speaker 2: to the feds. Okay, Today is an interesting day in
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  Speaker 2: the world of politics. And this is a committee, the
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  Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee, which is run by Republicans because they
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  Speaker 2: run all the committees. And it has to do with quote,
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  Speaker 2: an investigation into the Clintons. That is Hillary Clinton today
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  Speaker 2: is going to testify tomorrow it will be Bill Clinton.
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  Speaker 2: And it actually all started and this is the connection
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  Speaker 2: with the Epstein files. Of course, that's no politics here.
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  Speaker 2: So it starts back in twenty fifteen. Trump is in
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  Speaker 2: an interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity and he
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  Speaker 2: then drops a name that is Hannity, goes, Bill Clinton,
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  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts, nice guy? Trump says, got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of problems coming up, in my opinion with that
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  Speaker 2: famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems, And
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  Speaker 2: there the rumor took off that Trump is repeated over
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  Speaker 2: and over actually to deflect some questions about his association
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  Speaker 2: to Epstein, which is pretty damn close. I have said
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  Speaker 2: very often there's no proof of any wrongdoing of Trump
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  Speaker 2: being involved with any of the rapes and the molestations
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  Speaker 2: of minors, minor girls. But I've said he is, that is,
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  Speaker 2: Trump's a lot closer to Epstein than he portrays. And
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  Speaker 2: that's exactly exactly the case. So here we are, eleven
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  Speaker 2: years later, no evidence to Clinton set foot on the
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  Speaker 2: island at all, and certainly less than the twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: times that Trump claims he was on the island on Well, today,
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  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, tomorrow President Bill Clinton will testify under oath.
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  Speaker 2: And what are they going to ask, Well, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to ask Hillary what she has to do with it,
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  Speaker 2: although her connections with Epstein are very tenuous, and Epstein
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  Speaker 2: and Juliane Maxwell, the connection between them and Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 2: is a lot closer. So the whole thing is a timeline,
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  Speaker 2: is what it's about. Before two thousand and eight. After
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, when Epstein pleaded guilty to two
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  Speaker 2: charges of soliciting prostitution, one involving a minor, he was
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  Speaker 2: arrested in twenty nineteen on federal sex trafficking charges after
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  Speaker 2: doing one year in prison.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, he was given us Sweetheart the one year.
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  Speaker 2: After convicted of molesting minor girls. And then he was
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  Speaker 2: again rested a few years ago twenty nineteen, and he
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  Speaker 2: committed suicide.
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  Speaker 1: He hanged himself, which I would have too.
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  Speaker 2: Now turns out that Bill Clinton did take about a
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  Speaker 2: half dozen trips on Epstein's private jet two thousand and two,
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and three, and that is before any of
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  Speaker 2: this information of Epstein came forward. So anybody who was
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  Speaker 2: connected to Epstein prior to that time.
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  Speaker 1: I think is clearally off the hook.
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  Speaker 2: After that time, it's a problem, and there are plenty
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  Speaker 2: of problems with people after that time. So Clinton took
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  Speaker 2: about a half dozen trips on Epstein's private jet in
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and two two thousand and three, a seven
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven old jet, but it's a jet, and he
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  Speaker 2: is referred to Bill Clinton tens of thousands of times
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  Speaker 2: in those documents that the Just Department released. None of
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  Speaker 2: them include direct correspondence between the two. They refute all
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  Speaker 2: the claims made by the President's Foreign aids that he
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  Speaker 2: had several ties or yeah, none of them refute the
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  Speaker 2: claims that the president had several ties way before Epstein's
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  Speaker 2: federal indictment. However, there are files. These are a little problematic,
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  Speaker 2: Not so much Hillary Clinton. I think there's not much
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  Speaker 2: to get there. But there are photos of Clinton with
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  Speaker 2: Epstein and the former president aboard Epstein's private plane with
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  Speaker 2: his arm around a woman on his lap, and in
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  Speaker 2: a pool a hot tub with another woman. The faces
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  Speaker 2: are redacted. Don't know when and where these photos were taken.
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  Speaker 2: The other connection is the ten day excursion to seven
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  Speaker 2: countries that was taken was billed as an opportunity for
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  Speaker 2: Clinton to discuss economic development and the fight against HIV AIDS.
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  Speaker 2: Now included in that excursion to seven countries an African safari,
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  Speaker 2: actually investigation. On that airplane, according to the FBI, one
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  Speaker 2: woman was a messuse, another was a model, and a
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  Speaker 2: third described herself as a ballerina. Okay, Now, even if
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  Speaker 2: it's true, which I would doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Even if it's true, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Bring a ballerina on a safari, just I wouldn't a massuse. Maybe,
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  Speaker 2: and so the Clinton's deposition to be taken at a
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  Speaker 2: performing arts center in Chappaqua, New York, which has now
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  Speaker 2: been renamed the Trump Performing Arts Center in Chappaqua, New York,
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  Speaker 2: and it's near their home.
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  Speaker 1: Originally, they wanted an open.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing, not a closed hearing, because they wanted to have
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  Speaker 2: all of this out in the open. However, of course,
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  Speaker 2: the committee chair, James Comer, said, oh no, the testimony
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  Speaker 2: is critical to understanding Epstein and Maxwell's sex trafficking network,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what we want to know about. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 2: who is not being called Elon Musk, Steve Bannon, Brett Ratner,
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  Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz, Rfk Junior, all of them, there is evidence
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  Speaker 2: they were connected to Epstein, but no allies of the
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  Speaker 2: president would certainly never be called in front of this committee.
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  Speaker 2: The only one that did testify was Lutnik, who is
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  Speaker 2: obviously one of the chief financial advisors to the president.
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  Speaker 2: What is his official position, trade head of what is
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  Speaker 2: it the Economic Council? I forget at this point. He
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  Speaker 2: testified and his connections were solid with Epstein, I mean
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  Speaker 2: texts going back and forth with Maxwell. That's the only one.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, he's still there. In any other
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  Speaker 2: administration he would have been so far gone. And you
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  Speaker 2: used to see what England is doing with the two
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  Speaker 2: people that are charged with connections have been charged with
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  Speaker 2: connections former Prince Andrew and trade secretary their trade secretary Mendelssohn.
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  Speaker 2: England arrests people here. If you're an ally, you're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna have anything going on. Okay, now, oh, here's a
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  Speaker 2: fun story. I don't know if you've heard of Ashley Madison.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Madison was known for its tagline life short Have
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  Speaker 2: an Affair. It was originally created for married people to
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  Speaker 2: discreetly have affairs.
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  Speaker 1: It was synonymous with extra man marital affairs. There were two.
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  Speaker 2: Documentaries done on Ashley Madison and they're now rebranding themselves
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  Speaker 2: now it is discrete dating and what does that mean
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  Speaker 2: having affairs? Now Here is a story I want to
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  Speaker 2: share with you, and this actually did happen. Ashley Madison,
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  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of years ago came to KFI for
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  Speaker 2: commercials and asked me to endorse them for real.
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  Speaker 1: And it was our.
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  Speaker 2: At some point afterwards, looking at our station manager finding
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  Speaker 2: out about it just had no chance. But during the negotiations,
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  Speaker 2: while the AE was talking to them, I was fringed around. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's see what this is about. I'm married and let's
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  Speaker 2: see what this is about. So I ran an ad.
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  Speaker 2: I went on Ashley Madison to see what would happen
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  Speaker 2: strimply as a sociological investigation and a sociological view of this,
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  Speaker 2: and so I ran the ad. Hi, my name is
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  Speaker 2: Bill Handle. I love walks along the beach. I love
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  Speaker 2: sunsets and sunrises. I believe we should not kill any animals.
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  Speaker 2: I am spiritually connected to the universe. And then I
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  Speaker 2: put up a picture of George Clooney and then I
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  Speaker 2: ended my post with how about it?
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  Speaker 1: Baby?
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  Speaker 2: Now, I didn't do well. I have to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get a lot of response on that one.
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  Speaker 2: But had I have been a little more honest, I
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  Speaker 2: may very well have. And this is a real issue,
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  Speaker 2: and Ashley Madison is real. So they've changed their entire
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  Speaker 2: post situations, their entire website to now reflect this discrete dating.
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  Speaker 2: And according to Ashley Madison in twenty twenty five, more
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  Speaker 2: than half fifty seven percent of all new members identified
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  Speaker 2: as single.
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  Speaker 1: It used to be married people that went on.
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  Speaker 2: And the chief strategy officer, He's a big company, said,
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  Speaker 2: in an age where our lives have been constantly put
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  Speaker 2: on public display, privacy has become the new luxury. And
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  Speaker 2: so their point is, and his statement, we are offering
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  Speaker 2: ethical discretion now married people having sex with other married
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  Speaker 2: people who they're not married to. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you would use the word ethical in there, but he
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  Speaker 2: went on to say whether they are single, separated, divorce,
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  Speaker 2: or non monogamous, our community is united by a desire
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  Speaker 2: to keep their private lives exactly that private. So what
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  Speaker 2: it has done is except the fact that there's no
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  Speaker 2: such thing as privacy, and their private now I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you can keep that information private at all.
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  Speaker 2: On the website originally named there's a publication that got
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  Speaker 2: names and published them and there was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: embarrassment going on. So we'll see what happens with this one. Huh,
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  Speaker 2: what was it in August of what year? A few
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  Speaker 2: years ago, I don't know the exact year. The CEO
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  Speaker 2: at that point resigned. Oh, this was just last August,
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  Speaker 2: and the parent company agreed to pay eleven million dollars
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  Speaker 2: in a class action settlement. And they see themselves as
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  Speaker 2: an answer to bumble tender hinge that are.
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  Speaker 1: Predicated on curated profiles.
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  Speaker 2: The other dating platforms don't curate anything. They simply connect
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  Speaker 2: people to people. So here's a piece of advice. If
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  Speaker 2: you are going to go on this thing, don't use
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  Speaker 2: the phrase how about it baby?
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  Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. Tough.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, moving on fun topic and this boy, am I
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  Speaker 2: connected to this because I have done this a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: And that's traveling without kids now people who don't have kids, Well,
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  Speaker 2: it used to be there's something wrong with you. You
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  Speaker 2: were child less as opposed to child free today and
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  Speaker 2: it's changed completely the way society of use people without kids. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: make a choice, you're fine. And for some travelers, getting
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  Speaker 2: away from it all includes escaping the noise and the
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  Speaker 2: needs of kids. So it's either people who are child
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  Speaker 2: free and or people who have.
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  Speaker 1: Kids and they don't want to be around kids.
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  Speaker 2: Parents have been going to Disney theme parks without their
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  Speaker 2: kids nearly every week a new date. Debate comes up
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  Speaker 2: on social media on whether this is good or not.
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  Speaker 2: Annoyed passengers suggest that airlines offer child f flights.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how that works.
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  Speaker 2: As much as I tell people in restaurants where the
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  Speaker 2: kids are screaming, why don't you take it? Why don't
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  Speaker 2: you take your kid outside or at a movie theater.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, you know, what are you doing? It's harder
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  Speaker 2: to do that with an airplane flight. Why don't you
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  Speaker 2: take your kids outside?
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  Speaker 1: You can't. However, on a cruise ship you can.
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  Speaker 2: You can go on an adult's only cruise ship, and
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  Speaker 2: I have done both. I have done a kid friendly
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  Speaker 2: cruise ships. I've been on a Disney cruise, I've been
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  Speaker 2: on a Royal Caribbean cruise, and then I have gone
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  Speaker 2: on adult only cruise. I'm a huge fan of cruises.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that. I've been listening
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  Speaker 2: to this show for years. I mean I started cruising
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  Speaker 2: in my early thirties and have been on dozens of cruises.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just one of those things. I even got
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  Speaker 1: to the point where I was thirty three years.
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  Speaker 2: Old and pretended I was an old Jewish guy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in Hawaiian shirt and shorts with my cigar, going, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: That is the pool? What's the pool?
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  Speaker 2: So I've been around for a while now I'm ade
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  Speaker 2: appropriate for Mimi. Ver's the pool? So let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you a little bit about cruises. Ocianna cruises, which I've
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  Speaker 2: never been on. But I am going to nine ships
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  Speaker 2: in January it announced sailings only to eighteen and older.
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  Speaker 2: Carnival Cruise Line actually started doing a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: adult exclusive sailings more planned this year. Virgin and Viking.
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  Speaker 2: These are cruise lines and their long time adult only policies,
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  Speaker 2: and I have been on both and it's really nice
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  Speaker 2: not taking kids because there's a group of us, even
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  Speaker 2: people who have kids. You want to go, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I want to get away from my kids for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Have I successfully done cruises with my kids? Yeah, I have.
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  Speaker 2: When they were a lot younger. I did take him
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  Speaker 2: on cruises and it was very enjoyable. And here's a
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  Speaker 2: word of advice. If you're taking young kids on a cruise,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: lots and lots of prozac. They're very relaxed. They don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: make a lot of noise, and they stay in their
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: room sleeping most of their time board a cruise ship.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Neil, you're about to say something.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I know we only have one kid and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I come from a huge family, but I don't want
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: to be without my kid.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy the three of us going and hanging out. Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: What's that like? I And that's people want time away.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I get it too, but I really love the three
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: of us. It's so sweet. No, I do.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I believe that that's vomitous. I get that,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: but you know the reality is you get you go away.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: For example, I'm taking this cruise with my daughter in
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: what coming up in October, and we're doing a foodie cruise.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: As you know, Pamela is a foody extraordinary and Oceana
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: has some foody cruises with big chefs on board and
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: they have cooking lessons, et cetera. And had to make
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: sure over eighteen. And I said, what if you have
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: someone who is chronologically thirty years old but in fact.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Is only eleven. It's still rough.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: No, it's still worked out because there's the passport that
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: shows she's over eighteen.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: But this is a big deal. And I have been
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the only one. I haven't been in this Carnival.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I really have in Carnival, and I don't know why
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: they It's a party ship, is what it is.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Carnival is very.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Inexpensive and people in their twenties go and the whole
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: point is to get drunk for three days or a week,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: and so I don't drink so to me. Also, their
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: seafood salad board carnival is a can of tuna. I
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: understand it's not really high end cruising, so resorts are
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: going that way, and these adults only cruises are doing
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: really well. Also, there are some cruises that are insane.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Now I'm taking in all a footy cruise with Pamela
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: at the end of the year. There are nudest cruises
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: where people dance around naked. There are all gay cruises
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: where these gay groups get together and it's party time,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and so there's some I wonder how far that's gonna go.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: With ethnic cruises.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Rush Limba did a cruise early on in his career
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and sold out in about five minutes twenty five hundred people.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I think John is taking a cruise, isn't he? And
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: also I think Conway and Conway is doing a cruise.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And I've done a couple and you've done a couple. Yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I did one.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: In gosh the baron straight Wait where were I can't
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: even remember now, but it was beautiful. Yeah, I know
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: they're fun.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I don't do I don't do cruises anymore with listeners
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: because it's just too much work for me, because I
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: actually have to pretend I like people, which means that
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I sit down and have dinner with people and it's
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the same question over and over again. And you know, uh,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you know me with people. Okay, that's people with us. Yes,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, me tell you something. We are
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: in love compared to what how I hang out with people. Okay,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: we're done, coming up, Joel Larsguard right here on KFI Amy,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Nope not Amy. Amy comes back the next break or
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Amy's gonna do this after I say, uh, it's see.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you I'm a pro at this. KFI six for.
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