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Starmer’s shame, Trump’s triumph, and Iran’s cry for freedom · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Tonight we turn our attention to the rapidly unfolding consequences of the U.S.
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  Israel intervention in Iran and the revealing responses from key international figures.
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  At the top of the list has got to be Keir Starmer, the UK prime minister's response to the U.S.
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  Israel intervention in Iran.
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  I'm going to play it for you because I think just repeating his words is not enough.
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  But to give you some context around this.
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  He decides that instead of preparing their country, and this is right after their base on Cyprus was hit by a drone from Iran.
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  He decides that his best course of action is to attend the big Iftar Ramadan event in Westminster.
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  And he decides to address the Muslim community leaders.
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  And just listen to what he has to say.
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  All right, here we go.
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  The UK was not involved in the offensive scribes the US of Israel.
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  So of course, he gets a he gets a uh standing ovation, of course, by uh this crowd of uh Muslims in the UK.
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  And if that's not bad enough, they can't even get their ship uh you know out to Cyprus.
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  Uh the dragon is what they call it.
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  It's a uh looks like a destroyer class ship, and they uh decide to take it out, but then all of a sudden they have to put it into port so that it can get worked on, and so basically other NATO allies have to provide support to Cyprus, they can't even defend their own base.
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  Now, just think about how weak that is, how weak that looks.
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  And you know, Trump, of course, you know, his response to uh to Keir Starmer was uh, well, you know, he's no Churchill.
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  I think he said that, you know, when he was asked about you know the response uh by the news, and of course, that was the headlines in pretty much nearly every major newspaper in uh the UK the next day, the next morning.
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  So, you know, this this man has absolutely no guts.
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  He has basically capitulated to the Islamists in his own country.
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  Uh, he realizes that's the only way he's gonna, you know, be able to get any votes.
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  And I mean, just how embarrassing is that.
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  He can't even get their own ships.
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  They also prove to the world that they have no military readiness.
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  So the other thing that that happened uh, you know, is that uh I guess after getting you know lambasted by his own media, he decides that he's gonna put out uh you know a statement that uh that the UK is prepared to assist uh by sending one of their aircraft carriers, uh, you know, and this is like after a you know, a week of of uh the U.S.
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  and Israel doing bombing runs, you know, on Iran and pretty much decimating all of the uh all of their sources.
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  So Trump had the greatest response to that on True Social.
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  And uh, I want to just read you what Trump's response was because uh it really was perfect.
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  He basically says the United Kingdom, our once great ally, maybe the greatest of all of all of them, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East.
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  That's okay.
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  We don't need them any longer, but we will remember we don't need people that join wars after we've already won.
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  So, you know, Trump pretty much summed up exactly the sentiments I think that most Americans would have in this case.
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  This guy, who is supposed to be an ally of ours, basically comes out and doesn't even support his own people in Cyprus, refuses to support us, and then afterwards, after he gets a whole lot of backlash, decides, well, you know, maybe I'll I'll send out a couple aircraft carriers to you know to support the U.S.
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  and in defensive operations and uh you know Trump basically put him in his place.
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  You know, to make matters worse, it's not just though the UK and the UK's got a serious problem, but Spain also came out and attacked Trump uh, you know, for uh their involvement in this intervention.
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  And of course, Trump's response was well, all right, you know what?
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  Uh we're we're gonna cut off all trade with Spain.
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  And how quickly did Spain turn around and decide that, well, you know, I guess you know, we'll we'll send some you know some ships to go defend Cyprus and and uh you know, you know, provide support.
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  Again, just another example of weak weakness and feckless leaders in Europe.
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  Uh we did get some support from France and uh, you know, and there's some other countries that have, I think the uh I think it was Norway sent a ship.
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  Um, and so good on them.
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  But this one in particular was was quite disgusting.
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  It's one thing to attack Trump and uh, you know, but but to use to basically allow your your woke politics to allow harm to young women is quite disgusting.
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  And one of the things that happened was the uh the Iranian women's football uh team, you know, we call that soccer in our country.
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  Uh, they were competing at the uh AFC Women's Asian Cup in Australia, and several of the players uh, well, actually, the whole team decided that they were not going to sing the national anthem when their national anthem was played.
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  Well, of course, the Iranian regime seeing this were outraged and called them traitors and said that they will be punished uh when they come back.
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  And of course, you know, the likelihood is is what that means is that they'll be imprisoned, probably raped, maybe murdered.
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  And uh, and so their fans that were there at the stadium when when they I guess you know, the next day uh they were disciplined, you know, by their minders that were there with them, and so they saluted, um, you know, which is not even something that most people do during the you know, during the national anthem, uh, you know, these these teams, but they were forced to do it.
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  They were obviously threatened with their lives.
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  So the people who were at the stadium that were supporters, of course, saw this, and you know, this is uh, you know, their their fellow, you know, Iranian expats that were living in Australia, and they were chasing down the bus, begging for help to stop it because they knew that this team was going home, these girls are gonna probably disappear.
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  And the Australian prime minister decided to do nothing, decided not to help them.
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  The uh Trump, of course, got out there on true social and did what he does best.
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  He went out and basically made the comment Australia is making a terrible humanitarian mistake by allowing the Iranian national women's soccer team to be forced back to Iran, where they will most likely be killed.
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  Don't do it, Mr.
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  Prime Minister.
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  Give asylum.
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  The U.S.
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  will take them if you don't.
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  Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J.
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  Trump.
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  Of course, following that post, the uh Trump posted not too long after it, he must have gotten on the phone with them as well.
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  And he said, I just spoke to Prime Minister Anthony Albanys of Australia concerning the Iranian national women's soccer team.
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  He's on it.
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  Five have already been taken care of, and the rest are on their way.
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  Some, however, feel they must.
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  Go back because they are worried about the safety of their families, including threats to those family members if they don't return.
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  This is what we are dealing with in the Islamic Republic regime in Iran.
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  We are going to have a show packed with some really great guests.
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  Welcome back to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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  We now transition into our second segment where we will examine one of the most significant military developments in recent memory, Operation Epic Fury to help me do that.
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  I've brought on uh a guest that I've had on before, uh Lieutenant Colonel Sargas Sangari, United States Army retired.
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  He's the CEO of the Near East Center for Strategic Engagement and a recognized expert on Middle Eastern security affairs with extensive experience in the region.
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  Colonel Sangari brings a unique perspective, having served in multiple combat deployments and possessing deep insight into the geopolitical dynamics at play.
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  Uh, he's really going to help us analyze the coordinated U.S.
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  and allied strikes uh that target that targeted the Iranian regime's military infrastructure, missile capabilities, command centers, and other high value assets beginning uh February 28, 2026.
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  Um we're gonna explore also the operations strategic objectives.
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  And uh without further ado, uh, Colonel Sangari, thank you so much for joining us today.
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  Uh, could you please kind of start by providing our audience with an overview of Operation Epic Fury and its immediate strategic impact?
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  Yeah, and it is good to be here.
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  I mean, uh the operation has been absolutely fantastic from a multi perspective.
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  Um, you know, you uh uh first time in the history of the United States that uh you can have a uh bomber with uh 4,200 pound payload fly out of the United States, uh drop bombs that have uh AI integration in them, uh, being coordinated by maybe one individual on the ground that's able to hit multiple targets.
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  Um we live in a world today where you can have one special uh operator basically take out uh battalions of uh Iranian infantry uh with no hesitation and no issues when it comes to the AI integration.
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  So that sends a uh significant message to our near peer China, uh, that whatever technology that they have, or they have advanced technologies that have been maybe given to the Venezuelans, which didn't work in the case to the Iranians that hasn't worked, that were able to conduct uh wars at a level that maybe none of the near peers ever uh taught that we could.
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  And uh there's even some technologies every using that we cannot really talk about here that have given us an opportunity ability to really squeeze uh China when it comes to the strategic long view as to whether or not uh they may decide to go into Taiwan or not.
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  It has given us an ability to really show our abilities on the battlefield working with other nations, in this case Israel integrated force structures to be able to really uh devastate Iranian capabilities and capacities that had built for 47 years to counter us.
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  Um, I'm so glad that you brought that up because I think uh the tendency, you know, for most Americans is to kind of just look at the here and now and not really see the bigger picture at play.
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  Uh there definitely is a much bigger picture at play.
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  It's clear that this operation uh has been uh you know being planned and uh you know reviewed and looked at for months.
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  Uh I think that was also the case with uh Venezuela.
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  The two are inextricably tied.
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  Uh you have the the impact to global energy.
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  Talk to me a little bit more about what you think the greater objectives are here.
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  Um you kind of started to hit on hint on that with regards to China.
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  Um, there's also Russia, of course.
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  Um, you know, there's also other potential, you know, bad actors, uh, you know, I think of North Korea and others that are getting a very clear signal by all of this that the U.S.
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  is not to be messed with.
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  Um, can you get into the kind of greater geopolitical um effect of all of this outside of just Iran in and of itself?
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  Well, I mean, um, look, uh, China has been through the entire process of building a road initiative trying to counter what US was uh able to do, especially uh a lot of people don't understand.
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  China is a lead for the Shanghai Corporation Organization, which Iran is a signatorial to, and was created really after 9-11 for them to counter what NATO does.
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  Uh so um, as uh China expanded his Belt and Road Initiative throughout Asia, and also um looking at South America or backyards um in uh a span of less than a year plus Trump administration is able to counter that.
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  Uh and look, when I could take Venezuelan oil now that comes to us uh with U.S.
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  global oil market, you're looking at 30% of the uh uh global uh oil uh that we can control when it comes to if we want to have that as a reserve oil.
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  Now the fact that we're in uh Iran and we're controlling the uh uh Straits of Hormones and the uh shipping companies are relying on us using the American insurance to be able to go uh through the uh uh Strait of Hormones with 20% of global uh oil there uh under our protection.
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  You're talking about 50% of the global oil now under U.S.
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  protection.
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  Uh China needs uh Middle East uh oil to survive.
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  China needs uh uh oil from or needed it from Venezuela to survive, but we were enabled to really, within a small uh span of time uh under one administration to counter China to a point where uh China now has to think twice about whether or not it wants to go ahead and move into Taiwan, uh, which was what its entire lifespan had been from the time on Taiwan it was established to see if it can finally take Taiwan to break the the uh island chain that uh allows them to have free access into the Pacific and for us to be able to hold it and also start the technology transfer from Taiwan into the United States to include chip technologies.
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  Uh I think China's uh in a position where it's uh starting to uh fall back, and it really doesn't know how to counter us for now, uh, is all depending on what happens on the uh global market when it comes to the oil prices in the long term to see whether or not that's gonna be a short-term advantage for China or not.
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  But as a long-term advantage, we have now at least uh controlled uh what they need in order to build to wage war against us.
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  You know, that it's interesting.
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  Um it seems to me that sometimes I think you know Trump says things that people don't understand the greater impact of what he's really messaging.
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  Um I think it was just yesterday he he was interviewed and he made a comment uh in his remarks.
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  Um, you know, Trump defended uh, you know, the interventions, of course, uh by asserting that the U.S.
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  involvement uh, or that sorry, without U.S.
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  involvement, that China and Russia would have moved uh, you know, to dominate um, you know, Venezuelan oil resources, and that he explicitly then, you know, uh has invited uh both China.
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  China and Russia to purchase oil under U.S.
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  oversight, you know, stating that we're open for business, that China can buy all the oil that they want uh from us there uh or in the United States and that uh Russia can get all the oil that they need from us.
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  And and I think there's something important that he is messaging in that.
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  Um, a lot of people don't know the history of World War II, but ultimately we were, you know, what what drew us into World War II, obviously the the bombing of Pearl Harbor, but what ultimately caused us to become a target of the Japanese was that we cut them off from oil.
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  And so I think Trump is he understands that uh you know we don't want to back our enemies into a corner uh completely, especially nuclear armed enemies.
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  But I think he's very clearly making it clear that the U.S.
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  is going to be running uh, you know, the world when it comes to energy.
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  And uh so you're gonna play ball, you're you're gonna cooperate with the greater um, you know, uh for the greater good of peace in the world uh if you want to have access to something very important that everybody needs, which is energy.
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  Um do you think that's part of what his message is?
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  Yeah, I mean, that's part of it.
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  Um when I fought in Iraq against an insurgency, there's surgency control of food distribution, water, and uh gas.
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  So everybody was relying on them, whether they liked it or not.
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  So if I can control your food, your water, your energy sources, then you're gonna be relying on me.
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  And I think that Trump has realized that energy, of course, is a main driver of uh what you need today to survive as a nation.
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  And uh what is you need in order to be able to lead in the in uh AI technology in the long term.
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  So with that said, uh, if the Chinese and the uh Russians want it, they have to come through us.
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  If they're coming through us, guess what?
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  We have leverage on them, and whether they like it or not, uh, you know, they it kind of checks them in the understanding where their position is.
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  In the old days, we used to say you would have to be a vassal state uh for me to be able to uh support you and keep you safe in this particular case.
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  You know, they might not be vassal states, but uh they're gonna understand that uh we hold uh all the leverage globally on them and every piece of dollar that they sunk into uh development of the Belt and Road Initiative to bypass our possible future naval blockades that might uh hamper them from be able to get uh oil and reserves directly uh to them for them.
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  Um we pretty much has checked that with uh going into Iran.
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  Uh, you know, geography doesn't change.
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  It stays the same, and I think Trump understands that.
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  Um what it might change, especially with the issues of Greenland, but Greenland and what we're doing in Iran, what we've done in Venezuela are all tied together when it comes to competing against a near peer called China.
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  Yeah, yeah, that that's an important point too, because uh, you know, you think about like what Rubio's first action as Secretary of State was to go down to Panama and secure uh the Panamanian canal against uh the Chinese who basically had taken uh who had been given contracts and they were basically setting up listening posts all along there, uh, you know, to to uh you know try to learn whatever they can from our ships passing through there.
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  Uh that was the first action that he did, which was really kind of interesting and think very telling of what Trump's agenda was going to be.
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  He recognizes that China is uh the biggest um you know adversary and threat really that we have.
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  The other thing though that I think is something that we've we've got to consider is that there is a you've got this war going on between Russia and the Ukraine.
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  And ultimately, you know, wars can't be won without munitions, they can't be won without energy.
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  And so I think this this is there's also the potential uh possibility that this could impact uh Russia in and possibly forcing them to the table to negotiate a peace deal.
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  Uh, what are your thoughts on that?
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  Uh Russia always has wanted to have a good relationship with uh United States.
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  And you know, once the Sykes Pico contract ended, uh, which was uh agreement between Britain and France uh that was struck uh after World War One uh for the Middle East region, uh we all knew that uh the next group uh that was going to replace the British and the French were going to be the Russians and the Americans, especially in the Middle East, because we've had a historical footprint there for a long time.
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  Um with that said, Russia always wants to work with the United States to their benefit.
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  Um and uh I think uh people have to understand um every war you wage eventually we'll end up at the negotiating table anyway.
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  So you'll make peace with the nations you're fighting, it's not gonna go indefinitely.
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  Uh but um uh Trump understands how to negotiate how to fight economic wars, being a businessman, and he knows how to take over uh companies, he knows how to leverage others, he knows how to bring other companies under his footprint, and he's basically doing it at the international level and is working.
• 25:27
  Uh before Rubio went to Panama, I was there, and uh I posted a video after doing my research and said there's gonna be negotiated at a contractual level, and the Ruby went there and was negotiated finally on a concept contractual level.
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  Everybody can still make money, get their piece of the pie.
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  The only thing Trump is saying, you're not getting 100% of it, you're gonna get the percentage that I decide you get.
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  Yeah, you know, it's another another interesting thing too about um you know that region, right?
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  And uh it's right above basically where it's the most narrow point, if you will.
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  Uh in Central America, where you have all of this illegal immigration that has you know been flooding, you know, up north uh from down south.
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  And to me, it seems like a uh uh a choke point that would be ideal for kind of stopping a lot of that uh illegal migration.
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  I'm kind of shocked and surprised that um it it wasn't a that there weren't deals being made early on with Panama to kind of you know block a lot of that uh north northward uh migration.
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  Um, you know, just from a geographic standpoint, it would seem like that would be the ideal place to do it.
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  Uh it would be, but uh when the first anniversary of my company, um, near East Center for strategic engagement came about.
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  The article I wrote was how uh Turkey was using uh uh immigration as a weapon to hold uh Europe hostage.
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  Uh so Turkey was pushing people into Syria into Europe, and the Europeans were basically giving money to Turkey to make sure that Turkey wasn't sending a number that Europe couldn't handle.
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  At the end of the day, Turkey sent what it wanted because it was using him as a weapon to extract money, support, and leverage on the Europeans.
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  And the Chinese were already sitting in Panama and they were using uh immigration as a weapon to basically uh keep United States hostage.
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  Uh all the immigrants that ever send into the United States that came through the Daring Gap.
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  Um China was actually developing the roads uh and cutting out down the uh uh basically the forest to be able to make uh the immigration process from uh South America uh into Central America into United States much easier because it was trying to use immigrants as a weapon uh working with the cartels, of course, you know, providing the uh mixtures that they need for them to make the fentanyl was another part of it.
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  So United States countering it and getting its companies and the uh conglomerates that it has out of the uh region, especially out of uh um South America was important.
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  I had written an article on the Burma fight where the Aracana region was basically uh being cleared up uh by the uh Burmese military.
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  Uh and who was behind it was uh uh Chinese conglomerate and Nigeria, the massacres of the Christians are taking place.
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  Who's behind it?
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  Chinese conglomerates, uh, they're the ones who bring money in, uh, have folks clear area so they could basically harvest all the uh natural minerals it needs for itself.
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  Um the difference is that look, everybody competes, right?
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  China needs to feed three billion people, uh billions of people three meals a day.
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  That's not an easy task.
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  Uh so he tries to survive and it tries to be the number one uh you know power on the block.
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  The United States tries to do that.
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  Uh, China uh uses uh really ugly tactics to do that.
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  United States under Trump has at least said, well, you know what, if you that's what you're gonna do, we're gonna be aggressive, we're gonna counter you, and then you're gonna realize that uh we have upper hand, especially with our technology that can counter anything you could put on the battlefield to include any of the conglomerates that you're gonna use against us within the various different countries.
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  To wrap things up a little bit, I I want to get your assessment on so we we've we've conducted, I think, from a military perspective, a pretty successful operation thus far.
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  Um at some point the Trump administration's gonna say, you know, our job here is done.
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  Uh he's made it very clear that we have very clear objectives.
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  Um Secretary of War have made those statements as well.
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  Uh Rubio has made those statements as well.
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  It seems very obvious that uh there is there is no interest, and I think likely that you know they realize that they just don't have the political backing to uh do any kind of boots on the ground operation in Iran.
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  And so my my concern is is what happens in Iran once we.
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  We've said, you know, our operation is finished, we're done, and we're heading home because we've wiped out basically the military threat.
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  Um what then do you think happens in the region uh geopolitical?
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  I know we're not in the prediction game, but just from a perspective of what the American people should expect.
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  What would you say is gonna happen?
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  They sure expect the fact that I don't think the current administration cares what the uh what happens in Iran in the future, if you have already made our multi-objectives, it is up to the Iranian people, as we have said it and put on their neck.
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  You know, we've done our job.
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  Uh, we're not gonna maybe seek you.
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  Uh, you want to go ahead and uh come out and get rid of the current government or the previous government, I should say, that um had uh put these pressures on you, then is on you.
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  Uh we'll support you, but we're not gonna basically do the work for you.
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  Uh and uh frankly, if uh the Iranian people uh miss this opportunity, this chance.
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  I don't think this administration really would care.
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  As long as we meet our multi-objectives, we've done our job, uh, we've given you a chance.
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  That's all we can do.
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  We are learn our lesson from uh what we did as far as nation building in Iraq.
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  And uh yesterday, the Iraqi parliament was standing up uh saying that uh United States is a uh great Satan.
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  So uh we're not we're not about to make Iranians multi-millionaires.
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  We want access in our market because we want to make sure we control it.
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  We do know that there's competing interest there, and uh we're willing to work with whoever the Iranian people believe should be their leader in the future.
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  I think I think that is a a uh about a solid of a plan as as there could be.
• 31:40
  Um there's a lot of things that that could go wrong.
• 31:42
  There's a lot of things that there's a lot of risks in all of this, but I think the risk of allowing Iran to develop nuclear weapons or ICBMs uh with delivery you know to the United States, I think was far more risky.
• 31:56
  And so I am one uh that is grateful that Trump had the uh had the strength and courage to do what he did.
• 32:05
  And I think the timing was perfect.
• 32:07
  Well, I want to thank you, uh Colonel Sargas for you know coming on the show, and I appreciate your thorough thorough and insightful analysis of Operation Epic Fury and just really what's happening around the world and uh the greater strategic uh uh planning that goes into something like this.
• 32:24
  Um, where can people find you and where can they uh follow you in your work?
• 32:29
  Uh for the near East, I could go to the Near East Center for strategic engagement or NECSE.net.
• 32:36
  Um, and uh I recommend go to the uh search box and put power relations in there, uh, which was a plan that Wang Yi had proposed, and they'll have a better understanding of why we are where we are today in relationship with China, and then I also recommend uh for them to look at the article we wrote with who speaks for Islam, who should speak for Islam, and also an article I gave uh to the uh uh Daily Herald and OPET on July 4th of 2019 about backyard wars, which was a term I I coined for why we needed to counter China and uh South America, and then uh for our 501c3 United Assyrian appeal uh is uh supporting the displaced Christians uh in the region, and we work with the um Itana woman organization in Iraq and in the past we worked with the Jakarana woman organization supporting the uh displaced uh Christians in South Sudan.
• 33:24
  South Sudan has an election coming up on December 22nd.
• 33:28
  We hope that the current President Kier is out of office.
• 33:31
  And uh, if we can control Sassudan, we can control all the resources in Africa, which is in the heart of Africa, uh and a former Republic of Congo.
• 33:41
  So I'm on Twitter and I'm also at the same time on LinkedIn.
• 33:45
  So look us up on Facebook and uh near East Center for Strategic Engagement.
• 33:49
  I'm gonna thank you, Nate, for having us on the show.
• 33:51
  Thank you.
• 33:52
  Folks, as we approach the break, uh, we invite our listeners to stay with us.
• 33:56
  Uh following the short pause, we will return and uh we're going to get more into the psyche of you know the Iranians themselves, the people of Iran and what has been happening on the inside.
• 34:10
  And we've got a great guest coming on, uh Gazelle Sharmad, uh, who is a human rights activist uh in in uh you know Iranian herself.
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  Welcome back, Patriots, to Unleash the Political News Hour.
• 35:21
  We are now transitioning into our third segment.
• 35:26
  And this is gonna be, I think we're gonna shift the conversation uh a little bit away from the battlefield and more onto the human dimension uh in the aspirations of those inside Iran who have long suffered under the Islamic Republic's rule.
• 35:45
  Joining me now is Ghazel Sharmad, an Iranian American human rights activist, spokesperson for the Kingdom Assembly of Iran, and daughter of the late Jamshid Sharmad, a German American journalist and dissident who was abducted by the these uh Islamic agents in 2020 and subjected to prolonged torture and ultimately executed by the regime in 2024.
• 36:14
  Uh Ms.
• 36:15
  Shamad has emerged as a prominent voice advocating for freedom, accountability, and the end of the current regime's oppression.
• 36:24
  In light of the ongoing developments, including the impacts of Operation Epic Fury on Iran's military and leadership structures.
• 36:33
  Uh look, we're gonna get into all of this.
• 36:36
  So I want to thank you, uh Gazelle for being a part of today's show.
• 36:41
  Thank you for having me, Nate.
• 36:44
  So can you please, she knows maybe a good place to start with.
• 36:47
  Can you share with us your assessment of the mood and realities facing ordinary Iranians at this critical juncture?
• 36:56
  Um let's say it's not uh secret that the majority of Iranians hate this regime, hate this regime since its inception in 1979.
• 37:07
  This regime, which is an anti-Iranian regime and is seen by the people of Iran as an Arab Islamic occupation of their land.
• 37:15
  That's why they always say we have 90 million hostages here in Iran and not citizens.
• 37:20
  And since their inception, they have killed Iranians, tortured them, put them in jail, lynched them, raped them.
• 37:27
  And uh, you saw what they did in January within days, uh, about 40,000 Iranian protesters, unarmed protesters, have been um killed by this regime with military uh guns and weapons.
• 37:41
  330,000 people were injured in these uh few days.
• 37:47
  Uh 50 to 70,000s have been arrested.
• 37:50
  So the pain that this regime has inflicted of the Iranian people, that pain is irreversible.
• 37:56
  And that is the heart of the Iranian people that is radiating out into the entire body of the population that is against this regime and has shown that they will rise up year after year again and again, even if it costs them their eyes, their limbs, or their lives, they will take this regime out.
• 38:15
  So it should be to nobody's surprise that the Iranian population is excited about being able to see that for the first time after 47 years, outside allies, which is uh America and Israel and their armies are actually now targeting the oppressors of the Iranians.
• 38:37
  They're taking out the demons that have lynched Iranians for so long.
• 38:41
  So, yes, they're they are enjoying this, they are having hope in an actual um opportunity to regain control of their country and liberate Iran from this ongoing evil Islamic occupation.
• 38:56
  Um, and of course, uh everybody in inside of Iran understands nobody wants war.
• 39:01
  Nobody is happy that we are at war.
• 39:04
  But what people have to understand, there has been war going on between the people of Iran and this regime for nearly half a century.
• 39:12
  So this war is nothing new.
• 39:14
  The thing that changed is that for the first time, the uh Islamic regime, the IRGC, the Islamic forces are being targeted and are being eliminated in in in in in in such a beautiful and strategic way that will give the people the opportunity to come out and have a somehow equal playing field to take out this regime and reclaim their institutions like President Trump has has said uh in his tweet and in his speech.
• 39:41
  And that means sovereignty for the first time um will switch hands and go back to the Iranian people, which are natural allies to the Western world, which have always been allies to all other civilizations around the world.
• 39:55
  So let's talk about that for a minute because one of the things that has become very clear.
• 40:01
  Look, regardless of what one may think about whether or not we should be engaged in this, I believe that we should.
• 40:08
  I believe there are many, many reasons.
• 40:11
  And I want to just kind of hit on a couple of those.
• 40:13
  Number one, taking out uh these Islamists that have really uh you know been the largest state sponsor of terror, uh, not just in the Middle East but around the world.
• 40:24
  I mean, they are they have been the biggest reason that there has been non-stop war going on in the Middle East, uh, which seems like forever, at least as long as I've been alive.
• 40:36
  And the other thing that I think is a very important thing is that I think, and I think Trump understood this very well, is the the even the potential of the Islamic regime having nuclear weapons and then a delivery system to get them to the United States.
• 40:54
  That is completely unacceptable.
• 40:56
  And as we've seen by their reaction to the US and Israel's uh joint attacks on you know their bases and everything else there.
• 41:07
  We've seen that they have basically just indiscriminately been bombing, you know, civilian locations uh all around you know the Gulf states and uh their surrounding people who weren't necessarily their enemies.
• 41:21
  And so if they're willing to do that, that's the kind of lunacy that they have.
• 41:26
  We cannot and should not ever allow you know a group like that to have nuclear weapons or the means to deliver those nukes uh you know into uh the United States.
• 41:38
  So I, for one, will sleep much better at night, knowing uh that you know that their forces have been completely decimated and their their capability of developing nuclear weapons and then delivering them uh you know to the West is gone.
• 41:55
  And I think honestly, I think a lot of other people, even those that maybe are unwilling to say it, I think are also gonna sleep much better.
• 42:03
  That said, it is clear based on things that Trump has said, based on things that the Secretary of Defense or Secretary of War uh Heg has said and also uh Rubio that this mission is limited in scope and it does not involve boots on the ground.
• 42:20
  And I think even if they wanted to put boots on the ground, um, you know, I think in polling and things like that, it shows that the Americans don't have the appetite uh for, you know, uh as a majority don't have the appetite for boots on the ground, even though I know from a military perspective, you can't completely eradicate something like that without ensuring um, you know, a change of the regime.
• 42:47
  So one of the things that I am concerned about, and that I I am hoping that there's some good news coming from you is that is there a plan or do you know, and you don't need to tell me details, but do you know that whether or not there are plans for some sort of arming of um the citizenry or or of a resistance movement within Iran because without that, I don't know if their aspirations will be reached.
• 43:15
  They're going to have to take back their government and secure uh their own country.
• 43:22
  You're hitting the um the nail on the head, uh Nate with that.
• 43:26
  So we um everything that we're doing is great right now, but where does it lead?
• 43:29
  It has to lead at the end to some um authority that will take over the power and um lead the nation.
• 43:37
  So, first of all, um we have heard that there was communication with some um armed factions um uh around Iran.
• 43:45
  There are armed factions, they've always been armed factions within the population.
• 43:49
  It's not like in America where we have the second amendment and everybody can wear arms, but there are armed factions uh in the country.
• 43:57
  So um armed factions inside of Iran do not have the capability to liberate the entire country.
• 44:04
  Okay.
• 44:05
  And so um they can be used, of course, in in the uh war strategy to disperse the IRGC forces to protect civilians, to maybe liberate some pockets of territory here and there, and then coordinate with a broader national liberation movement across Iran.
• 44:22
  So if we look at history, and we're not reinventing of the wheel, we're just looking at um uh what history shows us when uh liberation movements have been successful and when they were not, it ultimately depends on two things.
• 44:36
  One is mass participation of the people in the streets, the second is defection of the armed forces, which in Iran we have two armed forces.
• 44:46
  One is the Artesh, which is the biggest armed force, but that is the Iranian army that was created before the Ayatollah regime took power.
• 44:54
  What the Ayatollahs did when they took power in Iran was create their own army, which is the Islamic revolutionary guard corps, not Iranian revolution, Islamic revolutionary guard corps.
• 45:05
  So this is the counterpart to the Iranian army that was holding down the RD and making sure that the Ayatollah regime can survive for all of these years.
• 45:14
  That is called the IRGC.
• 45:16
  So we have already seen in uh at least the the last month and especially in January that parts of these two dynamics, uh, people coming in masses to the streets and deflections of the army have happened with coordination of Iran's transitional leadership, which is the Crown Prince Reza Palapi.
• 45:37
  What is very important to understand that one factor that always has broken revolutions and given power back to the regime or led into civil war or some form of chaos is when Iran's territorial integrity or the territorial integrity of the country is at risk.
• 45:57
  Why?
• 45:57
  Because there's always this question that armed forces are asking themselves will there still be a functioning state after the regime falls?
• 46:06
  Will there still be a sovereign authority that will take over the country and prevent civil war, prevent fractionation, prevent chaos, and who we can deflect to, who will then give orders, who will then coordinate to hold the country in place.
• 46:22
  So there is no chance for IRGC commanders or Artish officers to abandon this regime unless they know there's a sovereign authority that will exist and maintain order and issue commands and and uh provide unity and security and govern the country during this transition.
• 46:41
  So clarity is very, very important on the territorial integrity of Iran.
• 46:45
  So we can work with armed factions, they will not be the boots on the ground, the boots on the ground will actually be the defections of the armed forces, together with millions of Iranians that we have already shown come to the streets.
• 46:57
  Um if we want to liberate Iran, we have to understand that it has to be one unified country under one unified leadership.
• 47:06
  That is the most important point, I think, that is right now missing, because we have not coordinated, at least not publicly.
• 47:13
  I know there's there's talks always, and with this transitional leadership that has um, and and maybe let me explain uh when this transitional leadership was created, it was not created right now.
• 47:25
  Um last uh year, 2025, in summer in Munich, the Crown Princess an entire coalition of opposition forces, which are representatives.
• 47:37
  We had hundreds of representatives, I was one of them who was able to speak there, um, who represent factions inside of Iran.
• 47:44
  So be it student movements, be it women's movements, be it the workers' union, be it um uh uh former um uh colonels of the army, um, be it uh rev uh um uh underground resistance fighters, be it um protesters, all of these factions from across the political spectrum came together under four shared principles and endorsed uh the Crown Prince as their transitional leader to lead Iran from here to freedom to the ballot box, where all of the Iranians can then participate in um selecting their next government, uh whether that's a constitutional monarchy or a republic, a federalist or a republic, a centralized monarchy, like whatever they decide when it's the daiyan, when it's when when Iran is free.
• 48:32
  So this is right now in place.
• 48:34
  We are very, very lucky that we have this in place that is already coordinating.
• 48:39
  So if you look at the January uprising, you will see that it is very different from all of the prior uprisings uh in several points.
• 48:47
  One, you had simultaneous uprisings in all 31 provinces inside of Iran with millions pouring into the streets.
• 48:54
  That's a very good point.
• 48:56
  Yes, you didn't see chaos.
• 48:58
  You saw them like pretty much like marching all very coordinated at the same time.
• 49:02
  The slogans were the same in every province of Iran, they were screaming Javich Shah, which means long live the king, or they were screaming for um Pahlavi as their traditional leadership.
• 49:12
  They were raising the Iranian flag and burning the IRGC and the Islamic regime flag.
• 49:18
  So this is very coordinated, and that is in fact the reason why the Islamic regime had to bring in outside militias to shoot these people down, why they had to go to a genocide or a politicside to be more precise, to hold the the country down with military force, because they could not with their own forces stop this people from taking over the uh the the government and the and the institutions.
• 49:45
  And that is exactly why after this massacre, the people of Iran were asking outside forces or outside leaders like President Trump and Bibi Netanyahu to come and and and um eliminate or neutralize these IRS.
• 50:00
  RGC forces, so we can then come into the streets and take over the institutions.
• 50:05
  Well, clearly, I think the calls of the people have been heard.
• 50:10
  And I think they are very well on their way to freedom.
• 50:16
  I am praying for the people of Iran and praying for those people in Israel and all of those countries that are hiding in bomb shelters because of you know what is happening there.
• 50:28
  Yes.
• 50:28
  But it is also, I think, you know, this is a an amazing time, you know, to see an unbelievable just superior military forces that have, I think, proven to the world it's best not to mess with the US.
• 50:46
  So I, for one, I like I said, I think there's a lot of good, uh, including for the people of Iran that is going to come out of this.
• 50:54
  And um, you know, one things that that I wanted to ask you about is uh in regards to uh Reza Pahlavi.
• 51:01
  So his uh my understanding is that they have a pretty advanced and detailed plan that uh has been you know uh put together for you know kind of how to restructure everything there in um uh in Iran.
• 51:21
  Um at when is the I guess what is going to be the the key kind of trigger for when the people are going to come out.
• 51:29
  I mean, obviously right now they're being told by the US uh and by um you know Israeli forces uh you know, please stay indoors because it's dangerous, we're bombing you know, places still.
• 51:40
  So is it gonna be at the moment that we say, hey, we're done, uh we've accomplished our mission, and then the people will come up and rise up and come out into the streets, or it, you know, what is the trigger, I guess, for that final movement.
• 51:54
  Um there are there are triggers, and of course, like we can't reveal everything to because the enemy is is listening as well.
• 52:02
  But as you said, there is uh a detailed plan already in place that was developed for for years by experts um and the team of the crown prince, uh which is called the Iran Prosperity Project.
• 52:13
  Um, everybody can look that up.
• 52:14
  It's online and can read through it.
• 52:16
  It's about the first 180 days um after the regime falls, and uh what is um uh important during this transition and what are um the uh the objectives of each of each uh sector.
• 52:30
  Um what we need to see, what we can say in public, what we need to see is one um uh a chunk or a bulk of the IRGC and the besieged forces.
• 52:40
  The IRGC is the military of this Islamic regime.
• 52:43
  The basis is the paramilitary forces, which are um focusing on uh uh killing and oppressing the Iranian people on the ground.
• 52:51
  So this regime is afraid of nothing more than the people of Iran because they have been mortal enemies for for as long as uh uh we can um imagine.
• 53:02
  So what we need to see is the bulk of them going out.
• 53:04
  We know the leadership of the Islamic regime was already taken out in in day one, but the leadership, as we know, is replaceable.
• 53:11
  You take uh Khamenei out and then they put their his son in place and so on, you know.
• 53:16
  It's actually been somewhat comical uh to see you know, they have to keep replacing, in fact, even when they're voting for a new Ayatollah and uh they get bombs dropped on them.
• 53:26
  So exactly.
• 53:27
  Well, like mid-voting they're being taken out.
• 53:29
  And and let me take that opportunity to explain the Iranian people will not accept any remnants of this regime because this regime can only produce what this regime is, other Islamists and more jihadists.
• 53:42
  So after so much blood between the Iranian people and this regime, they will never accept anybody like Mosheba, neither should we.
• 53:50
  It's like taking out Hitler and then making a deal with the SS, with the Nazis army, you know, like it's it's like what do we expect?
• 53:58
  It's it's so laughable to have even these kinds of fantasies because you have to understand if these people, if Ayatollah Khamenei and his commanders um were chanting death to America, we're chanting death to Israel before.
• 54:11
  What do you think his son is chanting right now after he saw his father and his wife and his commanders-in-chief being blown to dust?
• 54:18
  I mean, if they had any hate against Americans, against Iranians, against uh Israelis, that hate has doubled or tripled or quadrupled at this time.
• 54:27
  So it is not in our interest to let any remnants of this regime be in place so that it's clear that it has to be somebody who is not uh with a regime or in opposing in clear opposition of the regime.
• 54:38
  And that's why um so many people, like millions of people trust the crown prince, because he was part of the previous government of Iran.
• 54:44
  So the clear opposition of this regime.
• 54:47
  Um now, what has to happen for for this moment to come uh uh to uh to action is clear recognition by the US through an envoy for a free Iran or um the the government itself, White House itself, to recognize the transitional leadership as the replacement or as the sovereign power that will trigger to the army.
• 55:09
  We're done.
• 55:10
  Somebody is coming in that will trigger the deflections that will get the people onto the streets, and then um this mission will lead to the success that we're all hoping for, a world free of this terrorist regime.
• 55:23
  Absolutely.
• 55:24
  Well, I want to thank you, Gazelle, for your courageous insights and for illuminating the profound human stakes involved in Iran's ongoing struggle.
• 55:34
  Your perspective, it it really reminds us that you know, we are so blessed to live in this country and to have the freedom from this kind of warfare.
• 55:45
  You know, I think honestly, I think that's part of the it's a good thing, but also the with it comes uh unfortunately, I think a uh a lack of understanding of the fact that that freedom actually costs something.
• 55:59
  Yes, you know, and uh and so anyways, I just I I really appreciate what you're doing.
• 56:04
  If there is uh where can people follow you, where can they find out more information about the good work that you're doing and and what should Americans do?
• 56:12
  Uh, you know, should they reach out to their representatives, uh, you know, to to encourage uh an envoy to be created.
• 56:19
  What what do you recommend?
• 56:20
  That was that would be the number one thing that everybody can rally about.
• 56:24
  Uh you as um special presidential envoy for a free Iran that will engage with the opposition um of the transitional leadership of Iran, which is the Crown Prince and his team and the coalition that has been created.
• 56:36
  And everybody can reach us and follow us on um Instagram uh under free Jamshit Sharmat or on Twitter or ex um uh at Giselle Sharmat or on YouTube at Jazal Sharmat.
• 56:48
  And um, yeah, this this is this is a beautiful time.
• 56:52
  Thank you for much for um educating the American public, which has been so brainwashed and then indoctrinated by unfortunately the Islamist uh side, and they need to know what we're doing, and that this is in the interest of um not just the Middle East and uh America's national security, but for a world like this, this is bigger than the end of the Nazi regime.
• 57:14
  This is bigger than the end of the Soviet Union.
• 57:16
  This will change history.
• 57:18
  Absolutely.
• 57:19
  Well, to our listeners, thank you for joining us on this edition of Unleash the Political News Hour.
• 57:24
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• 57:30
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