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- 0:07Big news today as Kathy Woods starts to exit the Ethereum ETF race, and
- 0:11we'll break all this down for you what this might mean for ethereum and is
- 0:14there another alternative amidst we'll take it all in. My name is bol Bara.
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- 0:59everybody saw this on Friday afternoon, late in the day, and that
- 1:02is of course President Biden vetoed the bill that allows highly regulated financial firms known
- 1:07as banks to hold bitcoin and crypto. So basically this was SAB one twenty
- 1:11one issued by the SEC. President says, nope, we're going to hold
- 1:17the current situation. The SEC's position is the same, and that is banks
- 1:21will not be able to do that. That accurse, of course, happened
- 1:23all during the end of the weekend. I think till maybe Monday or Tuesday
- 1:27this week to actually do it, but he went ahead, vetoed it out
- 1:30there at the end of last week. A couple other points right here,
- 1:34eleanor Tarrett hitting on this. Apparently my wording was a little confusing, so
- 1:38I'm gonna say it again. The American Bankers Association asked Biden not to veto
- 1:42SAB one twenty one, siding with crypto. So the banks wanted in,
- 1:48and I think maybe crypto wanted the banks. I'm not completely sure on that.
- 1:53But the point is is that when you look at the American Bankers Association
- 1:57saying yes, that was a big statement by of course the President and the
- 2:01administration. Now, how much of an effect does this really have on the
- 2:06current bills that are in place. This would include FIT twenty one along with
- 2:09a stable coin bill, and many others that will probably be playing out before
- 2:14the November election. Here's, of course, an analyst Bernstein doubting that political
- 2:19influence in SEC spot etherre ETF approvals are going to happen after Biden's veto.
- 2:24So what his point is right here? I'll kind of scan down in here.
- 2:28Given the President vetoed the SAO twenty one repeal, the political narrative looks
- 2:32less credible and less likely that the SEC took a more pragmatic approach and avoided
- 2:38a legal battle, so basically saying, hey, we don't want to fight
- 2:40this out. We're going to go ahead and you know, push the eth
- 2:44ETFs through and off we go. The SEC knew it was in a corner
- 2:47on the e TTF and the same regulatory setup as Bitcoin, which was proven
- 2:52and is now a huge success, of course, and the CME eight futures
- 2:55market already signifying a commodity status, so that even makes it even more so.
- 3:01Overall, A couple of points that many people on X were kind of
- 3:05talking about here, of course, is bank let's kind of hearing on this
- 3:07finding just veto the only pro crypto bill ever to come across his desk.
- 3:10So first one, really this was a layupsib one twenty one, the anti
- 3:15crypto rule put in place by Gensler to stop banks from holding crypto hates it.
- 3:21The banks hate it, and all you had to do was not veto
- 3:24it, and you were in. This will cost to them. Now,
- 3:28this is the question mark this position right here, because many people just simply
- 3:32say, right now, we've got three candidates. You've got Kennedy, you've
- 3:36got Trump, and you've got Biden. Many people would simply say, well,
- 3:38all right, this tells us clearly that Biden is anti crypto, Trump
- 3:43is now pro crypto, and Kennedy is somewhat pro crypto. So how will
- 3:46the narrative play out, especially in this election as we start to say things
- 3:51going forward. Here's Nate Garassi kind of hitting on this. A lot of
- 3:53Wall Streets dismissed crypto, so this is another factor that plays into this.
- 3:59They feel like they're above it or perhaps threatened by it. But ironically,
- 4:02many of the biggest minds he knows are actually involved with or at least highly
- 4:06intrigued by crypto, and he's going to bet on those minds. So if
- 4:11you've got a lot of really smart people in Wall Street starting to lean this
- 4:15way. You've got pretty much the masses, a lot of retail, fifty
- 4:18million Americans starting to lean this way. Are we destined for a battle this
- 4:24summer around things like fit the fit bill as well as even the stable coins
- 4:30bills as they play out here through the summer election months. All of that
- 4:34I think is still going to be giving us a narrative going forward. Now,
- 4:39I want to look at a clip real quick, because this is talking
- 4:42about whether or not FIT twenty one can even get through. Take a look.
- 4:46The Biden administration didn't come out and say back Fit twenty one, but
- 4:50they didn't come out with as strong an opposition to FIT twenty one as they
- 4:55did with the SAD one twenty one repeal, where they came out with a
- 4:58pre veto stance. So you're seeing, just in a very short time period,
- 5:03a steep decline in the vehemence of the Biden administration against being anti crypto.
- 5:10So all of that is great to your shorter question about whether we see
- 5:14anything happen this year on FIT twenty one. I don't think, unfortunately,
- 5:17we'll see anything with fittweeny one this year. But that's just quite simply because
- 5:21we're running out of time in the congressional calendar and we are in a presidential
- 5:26election year, which shortens it more than is ordinarily the case. However,
- 5:30just the fact of twenty one passing on the House floor, a bipartisan passage,
- 5:36and the number of folks that brought a yes vote for it is tremendous
- 5:42progress. I think the tremendous progress is coming for very simple reasons, as
- 5:47it does with all situations in DC. When you see movement going quickly and
- 5:55happening so fast. Because that's been kind of the statement of me, is
- 5:58that what changed? What really changed in DC to cause a lot of this,
- 6:02Well, part of what changed was this right here, Coinbase donating twenty
- 6:05five million of crypto lobby group fair Shake, now one of the biggest ones
- 6:10out there. I'll play something in a second, but this is following Ripple
- 6:13and A sixteen Z one of the biggest you know, venture funds out there
- 6:15that are investing in this. A couple of points within this latest donation,
- 6:19Coinbase brings their total funding to one hundred and sixty million right now. So
- 6:25that's a big one because remember they had already allocated like another forty million back
- 6:30to back crypto and pro crypto candidates. So already in the cycle, you've
- 6:35already seen this much money starting to hit DC. Imagine what's going to happen
- 6:40as we start to really accelerate towards the election. This clip goes into a
- 6:44little bit more about that, and that's the size of the current crypto lobby.
- 6:48Take a look. I think it's really interesting how the crypto community is
- 6:51getting organized into basically a lobby to advocate for its interest because they have the
- 6:58biggest lobby in America. Did you know that they've been so targeted over the
- 7:01last few years because Gensler and Warren have been on a crusade to basically make
- 7:08crypto illegal or drive it off shore. Well, every action has an equal
- 7:13and opposite reaction, and now that crypto people have basically had a political awakening
- 7:16and realized they have to get involved in the political system. This as a
- 7:19matter of defense, self defense, you know. Back to the young people
- 7:24we talked about in the previous story, I think the reason they're attracted to
- 7:28crypto is because it doesn't have government control. And since if you don't trust
- 7:30the government and you see the government over and over and over again, covered
- 7:34things up or the grift or make decisions that are not in your generation's best
- 7:40interest. Why wouldn't you opt out of their financial system? And you know
- 7:43what, there's a lot of them and they have they're getting organized to your
- 7:46points acts. If young people show up, it'll be it could be five
- 7:49hundred basis points. I mean, young people do not show up to vote
- 7:53because there isn't a NISI that they care about. Correct, But there's fifty
- 7:56million Americans that are in crypto fifty five zero, Okay, So if ten
- 8:00percent of them are like, let's say that's their scene, that's not a
- 8:03million votes. No, no, no, there's a plausible case where forty
- 8:09million of those folks show up because you're talking about a structural part of their
- 8:13wealth creation. So they hit on really the potential here in terms of the
- 8:20impact on the election side of things. But it also starts to move into
- 8:24the investment appetite. And this is where Kathy Wood comes into play, because
- 8:28this is where it ties in what's happening within the ETHTF. I'm going to
- 8:31go to this story right here, ARC invest out of the ETF race for
- 8:35eth ends their partnership with twenty one shares. Now, there's a couple of
- 8:39points that you could look at right now and simply say, remember when ARC
- 8:43stepped out, part of that was in a response to or we could assume
- 8:48that is a response to the fact that staking was removed off of the table
- 8:52for putting this within these ETFs. If that is in fact the case,
- 8:56and we already have seen very successful staking security products out there, if you
- 9:03go back and look at Biddle, go back and check one of our own
- 9:05interviews with Biddle right here out of Miami and what they've been doing with Blackrock,
- 9:13Could Kathy be kind of queuing up something like that. Are we in
- 9:16a position right now where Art could be looking at a whole new structure to
- 9:20get into the staking game of all of this, because there's a couple of
- 9:24things that are happening that kind of tie this together. One of course,
- 9:28is this right here theorym ETFs may have ended the SEC's war and Crypto.
- 9:31Now, remember SEC is the one that is very anti staking. The whole
- 9:35concept around that, even though we know many of these other security assets,
- 9:39when you start to bundle them come together under the SEC for approval, much
- 9:45like what we saw Biddle. This, of course, I think also lines
- 9:48up very interestingly with where Art could be going down the road with maybe a
- 9:52new product. So if you look at the approval of the spot, ETFs
- 9:56was the kind of the chef's kiss on what it would be described as a
- 10:00banner month for crypto policy, and the move could severely undermine the SEC's ongoing
- 10:05crypto crackdown. The reason I say this, if you combine this with the
- 10:07political appetite, you combine this with a whole bunch of people owning crypto and
- 10:11voting pro crypto and then starting to look at trying to find assets that they
- 10:18can invest into. Kathy would could be lining up with the right product at
- 10:22the right time, in the right political environment, in the right regulatory environment.
- 10:28Everything starts to kind of come together. I want to go further into
- 10:31this, and this of course is right here Eric balshunas he was talking about
- 10:35twenty one Shares doing the ETHTF solo. Now Ark obviously dropped out document name,
- 10:39but there's still remains partners on the Bitcoin in the futures. Remember last
- 10:43week we played a clip that Kathy Wood basically said, Hey, we're losing
- 10:48money on the bitcoin ETF and we know it. She made some interesting statements
- 10:52in that interview that we played, and that was we think there's some other
- 10:56options. If that is the case, may this starts to line up.
- 11:01And remember if you kind of think about what twenty one shares is looking at
- 11:05in terms of other options, which is what is the highest potential candidate for
- 11:11that. Look at who is the staking leader in their holdings right now on
- 11:16twenty one shares, it would be Salana. So all of this starts to
- 11:18play into some very intriguing things that are setting up. Point is there's a
- 11:22lot of chess moves playing out right now politically, regulatory and also from an
- 11:28investment category because we are now seeing really the twelfth sector being formed right in
- 11:35front of our eyes. So a lot happening out there. For sure.
- 11:37This is a clip going in to kind of reiterate on this very point.
- 11:41This is Bloomberg take a look the importance of a spot ef ets. I'm
- 11:48going to push back on that slightly ed and my personal viewers that we're not
- 11:52going to get a lot of amound for this product. It's not a good
- 11:54product. Bottom line, it's great news for the industry and that it increases
- 11:58awareness and bring the institutional funds that cannot invest in anything that is not listed
- 12:03on a regulated exchange. But as for is this a good product, it's
- 12:07not going to be distributing staking rewards, which means that anyone investing in this
- 12:09product is forgoing a four percent yield. For many that's a convenience fee,
- 12:16but for professional investors that's a hefty cost to have to justify to your clients.
- 12:22All right, And you could say, all right, well, she
- 12:24is right. Yes, if you are investing in ETH, you've got a
- 12:26lot of different options out there other than going to an ETF where you can
- 12:30get staken rewards, where you can go in and just play the open markets.
- 12:33Yeah, all of that is quite a bit different than when you're looking
- 12:37at something like a bitcoin ETF. So all of this place together you look,
- 12:39as I said, we've kind of painted up a scenario here of regulatory
- 12:43the political landscape, and the potential here for a new investment category starting to
- 12:48play out. Could ARC maybe get a leg up because they've been kind of
- 12:54going head to head with Blackrock on the bitcoin ETF and they've lost. Is
- 12:58this maybe their open window taking something else out? In terms of an innovative
- 13:03product item. We'll see how all this plays out, but of course we'll
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