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Almost Famous In Depth: Hannah Ann Sluss · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in depth. Hey,
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Speaker 1: everybody listening out there, we are still in self isolation.
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Speaker 1: So once again we want to give a little disclaimer
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Speaker 1: that if you hear dogs barking Ashley, or computer typing,
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Speaker 1: or if you hear any background noise, uh, please forgive us.
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Speaker 1: It is the season of life we're living in. But
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Speaker 1: we don't want this season of life to slow us
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Speaker 1: down from producing great episodes of the almost famous podcast Ashley,
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Speaker 1: How you feeling the day? I'm feeling good. We have
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Speaker 1: a very awesome guest, a big one huge Hannah and
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Speaker 1: is on the podcast, and from the two minutes that
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Speaker 1: we got to briefly talk to her, I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I gotta like this girl. You have great vibe. Fanna
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Speaker 1: well good, Well, thank you guys for having me. I
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Speaker 1: was really excited to be here. It's uh, it's it's great, Hannah.
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Speaker 1: You know we're just talking before you came on about
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Speaker 1: how well really the podcast world has taken uh over
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Speaker 1: a lot of media in the last couple of years,
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Speaker 1: Ashley and I are I don't know how many what
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Speaker 1: is it going on? Like three and a half years
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Speaker 1: of doing this thing, we've gotten to talk to a
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Speaker 1: lot of the fan favorites coming off the show. It's
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Speaker 1: always fun for us and and that's why these in
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Speaker 1: depth episodes were started to get to know, uh, the
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Speaker 1: fan favorites a little bit better, to get to dive
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Speaker 1: into who you are as a person, and then also, uh,
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Speaker 1: what the show meant to you holistically and how it
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Speaker 1: affected you. But a little background here, Uh, Hannah is
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Speaker 1: from Hannah and is from Knoxville, Tennessee. She was on
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Speaker 1: Peter Webber's season of The Bachelor. Uh. They were engaged
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Speaker 1: at the end of the season after Madison walked away
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Speaker 1: from the competition. It was revealed on the Live After
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Speaker 1: final after the final Rows show they had ended their engagement. However,
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Speaker 1: a little note here is remember that Hannah Ann was
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Speaker 1: always Peter's mom's favorite. But before all of this craziness started, Uh,
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Speaker 1: she was a former beauty pageant contestant and finished his
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Speaker 1: first runner up in the two fifteen Missed Tennessee teen
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Speaker 1: us A competition and in two thousand eighteen Miss Tennessee
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Speaker 1: USA competition. Hey, the final thing is, we got to
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Speaker 1: have a little shout out here to Chris Lane because
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Speaker 1: we all know that we have a connection with Chris
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Speaker 1: Lane somehow, some way, uh, and you're in his I
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Speaker 1: don't know about you music videos. So, Hannah, and once again,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the almost Famous in Depth podcast. True. Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for having me. That's so funny about
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Speaker 1: Chris Lane. Now, I'm just making that, Isn't that funny?
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Speaker 1: A lot of bachelor connections with Chris? All right, So Hannah,
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Speaker 1: tell us about just your childhood. How you know, where
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Speaker 1: were you born? How many siblings do you have? Your
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Speaker 1: parents still together? Yeah, So I grew up in Knoxville, Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: I'm the oldest. My dad is a worster. My mom's
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Speaker 1: a teacher. I have a younger brother, Wade, and a
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Speaker 1: younger sister, Hayley. So me and my brother we're only
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Speaker 1: eighteen months apart. And then my sister, she's about five
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Speaker 1: years younger than me. So I grew up like in Knoxville,
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Speaker 1: Like it's definitely more like a smaller town. I grew
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Speaker 1: up like more conservatively. My parents have been married for
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Speaker 1: over twenty six years, um and so really, like me,
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Speaker 1: even doing something like this show was like wild to
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Speaker 1: them because in the South, like you get married young
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Speaker 1: and like it's very um through like the community I
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Speaker 1: grew up, and it was a very cookie cutter, you know,
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Speaker 1: like this is kind of what you do, and there's
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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. It's just I've always kind of
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Speaker 1: been like a wild card in the sense of just
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Speaker 1: wanting to like always do something different. Um And so
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Speaker 1: really like growing up, it was just like whenever I
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Speaker 1: was able to travel, it was just like to the
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Speaker 1: beach like once a year. So that's really how I
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Speaker 1: got into modelings because I wanted to travel and like
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Speaker 1: see the world and like see like different ways to
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Speaker 1: live in different views of life and just everything. Uh,
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Speaker 1: because I kind of grew up like a little bit
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Speaker 1: in a in a bubble. So that's kind of like
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Speaker 1: my upbringing of which is completely different than the path
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Speaker 1: I have chosen. You know, I can relate in a
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Speaker 1: lot of ways though, And I think that's the one
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Speaker 1: thing that uh, you know, Hannah and your family stood
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Speaker 1: out to me and I and I watch uh most
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Speaker 1: of the episodes every season. It's part of it helps
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Speaker 1: me with this and then it helps us dissect. But
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Speaker 1: I sometimes skip around on the first episode actually knows this.
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Speaker 1: I just don't love the first episode of any season
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Speaker 1: because I just feel like it's long. But I your
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Speaker 1: your family stood out to me. One is because it
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Speaker 1: felt like a family that I, you know, would understand,
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Speaker 1: a more conservative family. Uh, one that has a really
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Speaker 1: beautiful life. Uh, you know have have done the right
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Speaker 1: try to make decisions to stay on a on a
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Speaker 1: very clear path. Uh. Coming from Indiana, that is not
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Speaker 1: something that is not unknown to me. It's it's how
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Speaker 1: I grew up. But I also know then the effects
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Speaker 1: of all of a sudden calling or just really not
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Speaker 1: even your family because they might understand, but going on
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Speaker 1: a show shaking life up to the degree that you did,
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Speaker 1: and how to respond to that, um to your not
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Speaker 1: only to your family, but your hometown. And I want
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Speaker 1: to start this podcast with this question because it's one
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Speaker 1: that I have felt deeply. How was your worldview or
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Speaker 1: and and to explain that, how how did going onto
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Speaker 1: the show, how you viewed the world? And then after
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Speaker 1: doing the show and after moving to l A and
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Speaker 1: all these things. Uh, how has your view of the
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Speaker 1: world changed after being in that conservative environment for so long? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's like growing up in a conservative environment. You know,
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Speaker 1: I was around a lot of people who viewed and
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Speaker 1: lived life all the same way, and so I was
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Speaker 1: able to see peaks of it when I was traveling
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Speaker 1: with work and I lived in like and I lived
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Speaker 1: in different places before. But really through the show, it
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Speaker 1: gave me the opportunity to really understand the importance of
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Speaker 1: getting to know someone and not just judging them right
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Speaker 1: off the bat, because when you get to know someone
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Speaker 1: in their background, you're able to see this is why
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Speaker 1: they respond this way. And so I think my appreciation
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Speaker 1: just for people and just like take even if I'm
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Speaker 1: not like someone's biggest fan, just appreciating them, like their qualities.
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Speaker 1: That's like where my view of the world and people
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Speaker 1: have changed is just taking the time to get to
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Speaker 1: know someone because then you'll have a better understanding, especially
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Speaker 1: their background. When you really get to know someone, um
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Speaker 1: and like that maybe the trials that they've been through,
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Speaker 1: you're able to have a better pers on who they
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Speaker 1: are and ultimately appreciate them more. I mean, and I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of your story, uh, Hannah, is one
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Speaker 1: that we didn't get to see a lot of, Ashley
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Speaker 1: and I uh just and I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: listen to the podcast or not, but we were critical
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Speaker 1: at times of this season because we felt like there
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Speaker 1: was some some great contestants at the beginning, but very
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Speaker 1: little character development. We didn't feel like we got to
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Speaker 1: know you ladies as well as what we have on
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Speaker 1: previous seasons. One of the things we that became a
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Speaker 1: theme later on in UM this season was the topic
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Speaker 1: of faith. And uh, I believe I remember your family
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Speaker 1: speaking to that during the very first episode. Is kind
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Speaker 1: of your your faith and how important it was to you?
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Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Do it? Is that true? So as you?
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Speaker 1: And and this isn't really even a question that I
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Speaker 1: had even prepped to ask, but it makes me. I'm
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Speaker 1: intrigued now if you're hearing your upbringing, hearing uh, kind
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Speaker 1: of how much it shook life a bit, hearing the
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Speaker 1: lessons you learned as you watch kind of madison story
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Speaker 1: playing out during the show, and then also after watching
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Speaker 1: it back. Do you ever wish you would have really
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Speaker 1: that your story of faith would have been told more? Uh?
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Speaker 1: Were you kind of on her team? How did you
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Speaker 1: analyze that situation? You guys might have different you know,
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Speaker 1: beliefs when it comes to physical intimacy and those things.
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Speaker 1: I'm not that's not you know what I'm asking. I'm
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Speaker 1: saying just when it comes to how outspoken she was
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Speaker 1: about her faith and how outspoken at the beginning you
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Speaker 1: were about yours. How what was that environment like when
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Speaker 1: you're in the show and then watching it back right, Uh,
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Speaker 1: I think watching back this know, you only see like
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Speaker 1: blippets of me. And I think that was probably the
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Speaker 1: most frustrating part, is that there wasn't a lot of
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Speaker 1: getting to know me and more of like my character
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Speaker 1: and my intent of why I was there. And so
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Speaker 1: I did speak with Peter. I remember in Cleveland. I
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Speaker 1: you know, it was our conversations. It was like it
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Speaker 1: was at the it was right after the football game,
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Speaker 1: so it was supposed to be like the V I
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Speaker 1: P Party, and it was like when we were still
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Speaker 1: getting to know each other and we had a very
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Speaker 1: serious conversation and like, hey, this is my faith, this
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Speaker 1: is how I lived my life. Like let's see if
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Speaker 1: our match up. And I was very upfront with him
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Speaker 1: about that, and um, we felt like we had that
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Speaker 1: emotional spiritual connection. We were going to see how that grew.
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Speaker 1: So I was, you know, I would have loved for
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Speaker 1: my faith, which is a huge part of me, to
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Speaker 1: be shown more on the show. But that was really
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Speaker 1: how me and Madison, like that was where our friendship was,
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Speaker 1: you know, founded on just because we both had faith
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Speaker 1: are we both shared as we we both shared similar
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Speaker 1: lacks style, you know, we're both Christians. Um, we definitely
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Speaker 1: both live our lives a little differently, but that was
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Speaker 1: where we bonded. And it's so it's kind of untraditional
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Speaker 1: to be in this scenario on a TV show where
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Speaker 1: you're dating someone is dating multiple people. UM, And I
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Speaker 1: definitely struggled with that, but I also knew, you know,
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Speaker 1: I always kind of went back to what my parents
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Speaker 1: always taught me, and like love is about acceptance and
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Speaker 1: forgiveness and being unconditional, and that's kind of always where
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Speaker 1: that That's what kept me in it with Peter is
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Speaker 1: you know what how I we love, which is being unconditional.
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Speaker 1: Going off of what Ben asked you, I feel like
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Speaker 1: here in the twelve minutes that we've been recording and
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Speaker 1: in the final couple episodes we finally got to see you,
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Speaker 1: We're like, oh, this is Hannah. I like her, but
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Speaker 1: I haven't got I didn't know her for the past
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Speaker 1: eleven weeks. This is frustrating. Um, do you think that
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Speaker 1: possibly your storyline went that way because they wanted us
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Speaker 1: to feel more of an attachment to Madison and then
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Speaker 1: be more surprised when Peter ends up proposing to you.
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Speaker 1: That is a really good theory. Um. I mean, when
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Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, the first couple episodes, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm like, oh, you know, it definitely
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Speaker 1: was disheartening because I knew every I knew I was gonna,
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Speaker 1: you know, be given like the wrong impression of me.
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Speaker 1: But I knew how the season would end, and that
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Speaker 1: was when I was with Peter, So I knew how
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Speaker 1: the season would end. Um. And unfortunately, even how it ended,
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Speaker 1: you guys weren't able to see a lot of our
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Speaker 1: very serious conversations me and Peter had, so it kind
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Speaker 1: of seemed like our proposal came out of the blue,
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Speaker 1: great like that came out of nowhere. So the first
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Speaker 1: episode aired, When the first episode aired, and you got
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Speaker 1: to see what you came across, like then you were
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Speaker 1: you were still engaged to Peter. Yes, that was okay.
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Speaker 1: So about what week into this US watching did you
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Speaker 1: and Peter have that conversation that we saw aired at
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Speaker 1: the end. It was um, right after Cleveland, So that
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Speaker 1: would have been. So that is interesting that almost um
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Speaker 1: just qualifies my theory. Well, you know, it's interesting to
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Speaker 1: Ashley and as I hear from Hanahan here and Hannah,
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Speaker 1: and please Ashley and I are are fully able to
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Speaker 1: be criticized and critiqued here, so you can tell us
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Speaker 1: you guys are off wildly. But one of the things
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Speaker 1: that one of the biggest injustices I think to Peter,
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Speaker 1: which he's dealing with now, and also probably to you,
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Speaker 1: Hannah Anne, is that when he did propose to you,
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Speaker 1: it was a shock, at least to me personally. I
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Speaker 1: can't speak for all the fans, but it was like
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Speaker 1: whoa that was shocked and it almost felt like, um,
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Speaker 1: well Madison left. So I'm just gonna pick Hannahan. I mean,
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Speaker 1: and and I say that like, I know this is
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Speaker 1: like I've been on this thing, Like I know that
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Speaker 1: there's real feelings, real emotions, like I know there's a
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Speaker 1: depth of this stuff. Like Hanna, I'm not trying to
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Speaker 1: discredit your relationship with Peter, but I do think it
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Speaker 1: was it has been an injustice to him and probably
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Speaker 1: to you because all of us just assumed like, well,
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Speaker 1: he just did what he had to do, because it
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Speaker 1: was the only one left. When you're saying, no, this
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Speaker 1: like wasn't a shock to you, like you knew you
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Speaker 1: had something special, Like there was there was a realness
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Speaker 1: your relationship. Do you just mind leaning into that a
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Speaker 1: little bit and explaining to the listeners and to Ashley
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Speaker 1: and I, um, so we maybe get a better perspective
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Speaker 1: of how real your relationship was with Peter. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't have been there or what I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have shown up if we didn't if it I
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Speaker 1: didn't see a future with him, I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: I would have loved too for you know, viewers to
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Speaker 1: have seen you know, his bond with my family more
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Speaker 1: and my bond with his family, because obviously, you know
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Speaker 1: that was very strong because everyone was able to see
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Speaker 1: you know, barbed support towards me, which also viewers are
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Speaker 1: probably like, where is that coming from? But we all
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Speaker 1: just you know, our families and us two at that
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Speaker 1: time felt like we were the perfect fit for for
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Speaker 1: one another. We um really just you know, for us,
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Speaker 1: we just accepted one another. And you know, kind of
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Speaker 1: my perspective on the whole Bachelor, you know, being with
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Speaker 1: him was after this, after the season. After the season ended,
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Speaker 1: this is where we truly begin, and whatever happened on
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Speaker 1: the show is in the past, and really just keeping
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Speaker 1: the big picture in mind and focusing on our our
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Speaker 1: goals for one another and our goals as a couple.
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Speaker 1: I'm really building that. And we had a lot of
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Speaker 1: those very serious conversations leading up to our engagement. So
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Speaker 1: obviously watching the season, I'm able to have a clearer
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Speaker 1: perspective of why things ended. But also there was a
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Speaker 1: lot um, you know, of our moments missing that would
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Speaker 1: have maybe open people's eyes to how strong our connection
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Speaker 1: was during the show and and even after. Because we
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Speaker 1: had happy couples as well, So how many happy happy
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Speaker 1: couple of weekends as you have we have? The show
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Speaker 1: made it seem like that was your first no no
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Speaker 1: about three oh gree yeah, so it was healthy for you?
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Speaker 1: Like were they good the happy couple? Yeah, every happy
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Speaker 1: couple was happy until the last one it became unhappy.
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Speaker 1: So so what was it that happened before that happy
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Speaker 1: couple of weekends? Because it was very strange. It was
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Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, you guys had some conversation,
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Speaker 1: and that's why I think the audience assumed that was
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Speaker 1: the first happy couple of weekend you had in the
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Speaker 1: first time you were seeing Peterson's finding out that Madison
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Speaker 1: had left this show, but that you knew that Madison
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Speaker 1: left right after you got engaged. I found out after
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Speaker 1: we got engaged. And how did you take that information?
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Speaker 1: Did you feel at all like you could have been
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Speaker 1: second place in that situation? I knew, deep down, I
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Speaker 1: knew I was in some trouble because it was going
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Speaker 1: to be difficult, um to overcome that. You know, as
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Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of starting off. You know, we
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Speaker 1: had the pressure of all the viewers judging us as
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Speaker 1: a couple and then this situation, but we were committed
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Speaker 1: to working it through, and um, you know, I had
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Speaker 1: said yes and made that commitment and we were you know,
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Speaker 1: I was excited and hopeful and in love. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a dummy, you know, if I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to be with someone who doesn't want to be with me.
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Speaker 1: So he was giving me the words of affirmation that
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Speaker 1: I needed to make me feel um chosen and first,
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Speaker 1: and that we were going to make this work. Plus
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Speaker 1: we have both of our family's support as well, so
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know, I'm not I'm not just
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Speaker 1: gonna say yes and then say peace out. You know,
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Speaker 1: I just found out about Madison leaving. Um, that's what
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Speaker 1: that was. That that wasn't what I was going to do,
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Speaker 1: you know, So that what was that fight about going
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Speaker 1: into that happy couple of weekend? So what had happened
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Speaker 1: between like, you know, our engagement, our last happy couple.
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Speaker 1: We had not seen each other for a month, and
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Speaker 1: in the between that month, the season started, and so
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Speaker 1: that was where being started to surface. And honestly, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, Peter's not a mean person. I think he
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Speaker 1: was honestly just trying to It was new to him,
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Speaker 1: and he was trying to figure out exactly what was
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Speaker 1: going on and within within his own self and had
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Speaker 1: trouble communicating with that. He had trouble communicating with that
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Speaker 1: with me, And UM, I think that's what kind of
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Speaker 1: um as. I think that's what kind of made the
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Speaker 1: situation worse. UM is that had trouble you know, completely
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Speaker 1: being truthful, But I think it went back to he
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Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure what was going on within his own
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Speaker 1: zell M. That's an interesting thing to sit on though
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Speaker 1: for a second. I mean it we've actually not explained.
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Speaker 1: It often is this world gets like a it's a whirlwind.
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Speaker 1: Oftentimes it feels like you're turning in circles trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out what's happening. While at the same time you
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Speaker 1: believe or you think you have these certain um emotions
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Speaker 1: and love for another human, which you probably and usually do.
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Speaker 1: But it's hard to navigate in the midst of the
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Speaker 1: chaos that is just a whole new world. As you said,
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Speaker 1: I mean, at the very beginning we open this up,
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Speaker 1: you said, Hey, I came from like a conservative town
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Speaker 1: where people get married early on in life, and like
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Speaker 1: it's a pretty clear and approach, and people move forward
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Speaker 1: in the only way they know how, which is typically
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Speaker 1: how their parents have done it. Uh. And again I
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Speaker 1: say that with this like with the ability to relate,
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Speaker 1: like I understand what you're saying there. So you then say,
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Speaker 1: for example, like a you or a Peter or Madison
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Speaker 1: Um or whoever else does in the show gets thrown
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Speaker 1: onto this show and it's a new environment for everybody,
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Speaker 1: especially those of us who have very rarely had our
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Speaker 1: worlds like shaken and rocked. Um, and it's hard to navigate,
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Speaker 1: Like it's chaos and it feels like chaos. One of
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Speaker 1: the things I just want to get clarity here is
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Speaker 1: um one of the topics that was written into us,
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Speaker 1: wanting to get a little more information on or how
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Speaker 1: you felt about it and uh and if you don't,
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Speaker 1: if at any point here you're like, hey, I just
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Speaker 1: this hurts too much. I don't want to talk about it.
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Speaker 1: That's fine, just say it um. But during the proposal,
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Speaker 1: Peter brought up Madison's name during it and had kind
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Speaker 1: of like hinted at, hey, she's gone. Did you know then?
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Speaker 1: Was it just like you were confused knowing like what
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Speaker 1: he was now watching back, knowing what he was trying
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Speaker 1: to say and communicate to you. Does that feel weird?
18:44
Speaker 1: Like it was super critical or criticized. I want to
18:47
Speaker 1: hear from you on like on what you think. Yeah,
18:55
Speaker 1: in them in that moment, that wasn't very clear to me,
19:00
Speaker 1: you know, like it so leading up to that day,
19:05
Speaker 1: you know, I did not know she had left. Um.
19:08
Speaker 1: You know, we had our like last chance state where
19:10
Speaker 1: we were able to sit down and like talk, and
19:12
Speaker 1: you know the only thing I heard was, um, my
19:14
Speaker 1: heart's being torn in two different directions. I didn't know
19:17
Speaker 1: that meant, my other half of my heart's in Auburn, Alabama,
19:23
Speaker 1: And I've watched The Bachelor before, Like that's very you know, Um,
19:28
Speaker 1: that's a common thing to say, is my heart has
19:29
Speaker 1: been torn in two different directions. And um, so leading
19:33
Speaker 1: up to the proposal day, Um, you know you're in
19:36
Speaker 1: the moment and you know, I'm you know, I'm shaking.
19:40
Speaker 1: I just got done with my proposal speech, and that
19:44
Speaker 1: wasn't that was very much putting me on the spot
19:47
Speaker 1: to where we weren't able to like sit down and
19:49
Speaker 1: have a conversation like this, hey, kind of like how
19:51
Speaker 1: is your we really going? Like what have you really
19:53
Speaker 1: gone through? Like let's have this conversation. And um, it's
19:57
Speaker 1: like what I told him at after Donald Rose, my
19:59
Speaker 1: instincts would have picked up on that you weren't ready,
20:02
Speaker 1: you know. And so for me, I think that one
20:04
Speaker 1: of the most painful parts was seeing you know that
20:07
Speaker 1: last episode and seeing how torn and upset he was
20:11
Speaker 1: when I'm walking and then and then it flips to
20:13
Speaker 1: me walking down to you know, getting engaged, and I'm
20:16
Speaker 1: like so naive and thinking, not even understanding what all
20:20
Speaker 1: had happened. And I think that's the most hurtful part
20:23
Speaker 1: is that he wasn't you know, didn't have like enough
20:26
Speaker 1: like respect for me to sit me down and just
20:28
Speaker 1: to really like lay it all out there and just
20:31
Speaker 1: just work through it, you know. Um. But you know,
20:35
Speaker 1: he got lost in the moment and with his emotions.
20:39
Speaker 1: If he had pulled you aside then and said, hey, Hannah,
20:43
Speaker 1: and I just think I should tell you this before
20:45
Speaker 1: we get engaged Madison left, would that have changed anything? Yeah,
20:50
Speaker 1: it would have changed a lot because it wouldn't have
20:54
Speaker 1: just been an answer yes or no. It would have
20:56
Speaker 1: been like, let's sit down, like let's recap like how
21:00
Speaker 1: you felt leading up to her leaving, how you know
21:04
Speaker 1: how you feel now? And he, you know, I think
21:07
Speaker 1: d down. He knows that there would have been some
21:08
Speaker 1: difficult you know, questions, and um, you know, for for
21:14
Speaker 1: whatever reason, he just wasn't ready to let me go.
21:16
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is he knew that there were going
21:18
Speaker 1: to be difficult questions before proposed, Like if you were
21:22
Speaker 1: to tell you that beforehand, it would have been difficult
21:24
Speaker 1: and you would have like pressured him into talking about
21:27
Speaker 1: a lot, right. But the weird thing is Peter wasn't
21:29
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, if I say this information for later.
21:32
Speaker 1: It's the question is going to be even more difficult,
21:35
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be even harder to prove yes exactly,
21:40
Speaker 1: It's gonna even be harder and stickier. And it's one thing,
21:44
Speaker 1: I mean, it was always watered down. It was always
21:47
Speaker 1: like he speaks and half truths, or with us he
21:50
Speaker 1: spoken half truths, and it was always like the water down,
21:53
Speaker 1: sugarcoated version that he wanted me to hear because he
21:56
Speaker 1: knew that I was with him at this point, you know, um.
21:59
Speaker 1: And so it was really painful having to like watch
22:02
Speaker 1: it all and like see it for what it actually
22:04
Speaker 1: was and not from what he was telling me. It's
22:07
Speaker 1: one of Peter Hannan, just from like my perspective. It's
22:11
Speaker 1: been years since I've done this, so I mean, I
22:14
Speaker 1: could be at a day. I don't know how you
22:15
Speaker 1: guys do it these days, but it is like I
22:18
Speaker 1: know Peter. We're gonna speak with Peter um about his
22:23
Speaker 1: experience as well, but it is one of the things
22:26
Speaker 1: that I will tell him is not like I know him.
22:29
Speaker 1: He is not a bad man like he is. He
22:32
Speaker 1: has he's not ill, he has no ill intentions. I
22:35
Speaker 1: think his biggest mistake is he was trying to protect himself,
22:38
Speaker 1: his family, that you and the girls, and he was speaking,
22:43
Speaker 1: like you said, not lies but half truth. He was
22:46
Speaker 1: leaving a lot out there, uh unknown. You just can't
22:51
Speaker 1: do that when your life is also being videotaped, like
22:56
Speaker 1: you can't when everybody else is going to watch it
22:58
Speaker 1: back and the full truth is going to be brought
23:02
Speaker 1: It makes you look like you're trying to lie even
23:04
Speaker 1: though you're not. And that I think was one of
23:07
Speaker 1: the things that got him and has gotten him in
23:09
Speaker 1: the most trouble. It's like, hey, if you just start
23:11
Speaker 1: telling the truth, people will listen because you're you're not
23:15
Speaker 1: a bad person, you just are not explaining the full story.
23:19
Speaker 1: Like bad communication. Yes, yes, And I think maybe that's
23:24
Speaker 1: equality he has. But in this situation of being the Bachelor,
23:28
Speaker 1: it just it brought it out even more and it
23:31
Speaker 1: brought it to the surface. And um, you know, I
23:35
Speaker 1: when we were together, I always tried to, even throughout
23:38
Speaker 1: the show and afterwards, I always tried to put myself
23:40
Speaker 1: in his shoes and you know, place him first in
23:43
Speaker 1: that sense, um, And I think that's what kept us
23:46
Speaker 1: going as a couple longer than what we should have
23:50
Speaker 1: is because I always tried to like show you know
23:52
Speaker 1: that compassion of you know, your situation was so difficult.
23:55
Speaker 1: You're coming off the show, you're still working through your emotions,
23:58
Speaker 1: and I think he was doing that as well. You know,
24:00
Speaker 1: he could have quite put a finger on, um, why
24:03
Speaker 1: exactly he was feeling or why his feelings in his
24:07
Speaker 1: own words were like out of control, because you know,
24:10
Speaker 1: just pointing the fingers towards different things, um. And I
24:12
Speaker 1: never really truly got like that like answer. I had
24:18
Speaker 1: to like find out watching the show after the final
24:21
Speaker 1: rose when I found out and massive we're back together,
24:24
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, okay, well we'll we'll go back
24:26
Speaker 1: to that. But I do want to let you know
24:28
Speaker 1: that I think the level of compassion you had for
24:30
Speaker 1: him was very evident during your breakup scene. He was
24:34
Speaker 1: like why his tears. Of course that wasn't shown, but
24:38
Speaker 1: I was like, why tears? It was so sad you guys.
24:42
Speaker 1: It was so evident how much you were fighting for
24:44
Speaker 1: that relationship and how you were just like forgiving and
24:46
Speaker 1: forgiving him. I want to ask you one more question
24:49
Speaker 1: about your proposal. You did seem a little bit shocked
24:53
Speaker 1: that it was you like, I don't know, I don't
24:54
Speaker 1: remember the last time that I saw somebody in the
24:56
Speaker 1: Bachelor be like it's me, you're picking me? So you
25:00
Speaker 1: did you think he was going to break medicine? Honestly, like, okay,
25:07
Speaker 1: I promise you. It's sweet and cute and sort of
25:09
Speaker 1: like relatable, and it makes me feel like you're very
25:14
Speaker 1: um you're just like not full of yourself. You're like, oh,
25:17
Speaker 1: like I really didn't. I don't know, like okay, well,
25:22
Speaker 1: you know, like seeing people getting like engaged on the
25:25
Speaker 1: Bachelor of the past, I told myself, I was like,
25:27
Speaker 1: I'm if I get engaged, I'm not going to laugh
25:31
Speaker 1: because when he just seems like you're making a joke
25:34
Speaker 1: out of it. And so in the moment, I was
25:36
Speaker 1: so nervous. I was just like, my gosh, it's me.
25:38
Speaker 1: It's me. I was just like I was so silly,
25:41
Speaker 1: you know, Like my sister watched that. My sister was like,
25:44
Speaker 1: what the heck? Like that was the weirdest reaction ever.
25:49
Speaker 1: And I'm like, honestly, when you have all these cameras
25:51
Speaker 1: around you and your stress and you're just like you're
25:54
Speaker 1: finally finished with like the season and you finally hear
25:58
Speaker 1: from the person you're completely in love with they love you,
26:00
Speaker 1: like that's something to like be jumping up and down
26:04
Speaker 1: for so excited. I guess I was surprised, but after
26:08
Speaker 1: I was with his family, I felt so strongly it
26:12
Speaker 1: was going to be us. It's ah, it is true.
26:16
Speaker 1: Actually you say that. I remember going back and and
26:19
Speaker 1: watching that all of us kind of going like, especially
26:22
Speaker 1: how the proposal was set up. We're like, this is shocking,
26:25
Speaker 1: and it felt I think our last episode that we
26:28
Speaker 1: like talked about, We're like, that felt almost like oddly
26:32
Speaker 1: not like a proposal, and we know it was Hannah,
26:35
Speaker 1: And we're gonna hear why that was such a real proposal. Uh.
26:39
Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on in your eyes,
26:41
Speaker 1: in your opinion, what went wrong? Uh? And then also
26:45
Speaker 1: how are you recovering today here in a little bit.
26:47
Speaker 1: But before we do, uh, let's take a break. Uh
26:50
Speaker 1: and we'll come back with Hannah ann uh and on
26:54
Speaker 1: the almost Famous In Depth podcast. We're back with Hannah
27:05
Speaker 1: and Hannah and I want to pause halfway through this
27:07
Speaker 1: podcast because there's just something that hit me And I
27:09
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the right question right now or not. UM,
27:14
Speaker 1: but we sit here and we're talking. We talk, we talk.
27:16
Speaker 1: We're talking to you and we're hearing your upbringing, we're
27:19
Speaker 1: hearing about your family, and we're hearing about your emotions,
27:22
Speaker 1: and we're hearing how much sympathy and empathy you have
27:24
Speaker 1: for Peter Um Ashley and I sit there as the host.
27:28
Speaker 1: Now we've been removed from the show for a while,
27:29
Speaker 1: but we don't forget how it feels. And I just
27:33
Speaker 1: like it just hit me as I was listening to
27:35
Speaker 1: you and being like, Hannah, and this is your life,
27:37
Speaker 1: Like what you're speaking to us about right now is
27:40
Speaker 1: not just a show, not just a show you participated in,
27:44
Speaker 1: not just an experience that we can share and talk
27:46
Speaker 1: about with our kids. And forty years like you were engaged,
27:53
Speaker 1: you were heartbroken, like you went through the ups and
27:57
Speaker 1: downs of this whole experience. We're not that far removed
28:02
Speaker 1: from it, Like as you just sit to us, not
28:03
Speaker 1: and like answering questions about the show. We'll get back
28:06
Speaker 1: to that in a second, but just like in general
28:08
Speaker 1: that this is now your life and this is like
28:11
Speaker 1: how interesting we are and just hearing your story, how
28:14
Speaker 1: does that feel? Like how are you processing that right now? Yeah?
28:18
Speaker 1: You know, I've worked through a lot of like different emotions.
28:22
Speaker 1: I think now I'm kind of like feeling a little
28:24
Speaker 1: bit more back on my feet, and I you know,
28:29
Speaker 1: it's like the other day, I was walking with my friends,
28:31
Speaker 1: and I was on a walk and I just felt
28:34
Speaker 1: so much happiness, and I was looking at my friends
28:37
Speaker 1: and like, you know, we have fresh air. I'm with,
28:39
Speaker 1: I'm with you know, my friends, and and I thought, wow,
28:43
Speaker 1: I haven't cried and weeks, Like that was just strange
28:48
Speaker 1: to me, Like I had not cried in weeks, and
28:50
Speaker 1: and it made me sad, not over Peter, but it
28:54
Speaker 1: you know, I started crying in that moment because I
28:57
Speaker 1: was thinking about how oken I was and how terrible
29:04
Speaker 1: of a position I felt I was in, you know,
29:07
Speaker 1: being with Peter and just leading up to the breakup.
29:10
Speaker 1: I mean I would cry for like hours, Like one
29:12
Speaker 1: time I cried for six hours straight just because of
29:16
Speaker 1: just the anticipation of crying about what's happened, and crying
29:20
Speaker 1: about like this is a part of my story, like
29:22
Speaker 1: this is a part of my life. And just knowing
29:25
Speaker 1: that that would always like be a part of me,
29:27
Speaker 1: like really broke me. And knowing that there would be
29:30
Speaker 1: like the whole world having to know about it and
29:32
Speaker 1: have their opinion on it and feel like that they
29:34
Speaker 1: know that the situation, and then you have the season
29:37
Speaker 1: going on and you're you're seeing just bits and pieces
29:40
Speaker 1: of it and you're just like, oh my gosh, like
29:43
Speaker 1: everyone just you know, we'll kind of feel like they're
29:47
Speaker 1: a part of it when they really truly aren't, you know,
29:50
Speaker 1: only me and Peter truly. Um, And I think it
29:53
Speaker 1: was also really hard. I didn't realize the impact of
29:56
Speaker 1: it would have on my family because, um, it made
29:59
Speaker 1: a should impact, Like my family, my personal life has
30:02
Speaker 1: been part has been with my family. Now you know
30:05
Speaker 1: they're able to see it. You know, Peter brought you know,
30:08
Speaker 1: my dad into it, asking you know, for my hand
30:10
Speaker 1: in marriage and it you know, my family was heartbroken
30:14
Speaker 1: as well, like this is real life and a lot
30:18
Speaker 1: of people got entertainment out of it, and you know,
30:21
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, obviously that's what I signed up for,
30:24
Speaker 1: but it's my heart and my life and what I'm
30:27
Speaker 1: carrying forward. When you're when Peter, when your dad told
30:32
Speaker 1: Peter not to say I love you unless he really
30:36
Speaker 1: really meant it, And the way that your dad said,
30:39
Speaker 1: it made me feel like, don't say it unless, like
30:42
Speaker 1: you know it's her, like you're going to pick her.
30:44
Speaker 1: And at that moment, Jared was like he better beat her,
30:46
Speaker 1: like I'm rooting for hand and all the way now
30:49
Speaker 1: because like this man better keep his word to this father.
30:52
Speaker 1: And well he did, he proposed to you, um, but
30:56
Speaker 1: then he went and kind of wasted that for this
31:00
Speaker 1: engagement moment, which was something that like a lot I
31:03
Speaker 1: think the females and the audience were just like I
31:08
Speaker 1: took that away from her like the first and what
31:11
Speaker 1: somebody hopes is your only proposal. How does your your
31:14
Speaker 1: dad feel about him now? And and how how are
31:17
Speaker 1: you you feeling better these days about all that? Or yeah,
31:22
Speaker 1: you know when my dad was talking with Peter like
31:24
Speaker 1: don't waste a word. Um. You know, the backstory behind
31:27
Speaker 1: that is my dad was telling Peter about kind of
31:29
Speaker 1: my upbringing and like you know, the family I was
31:33
Speaker 1: raised in and how marriage and engagement and words are
31:38
Speaker 1: just really are so important and so don't never you know.
31:42
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where it came in with Fantasy
31:44
Speaker 1: sweet week, Like I've always had this, you know, this
31:47
Speaker 1: side of not pressuring anyone to do or say anything. Um,
31:52
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where my dad was, like, you know,
31:54
Speaker 1: don't say anything because you're feeling pressured because of the
31:57
Speaker 1: show or because you're in the moment. If you're going
32:00
Speaker 1: to say something, mean it and follow through with it.
32:04
Speaker 1: And um, you know Peter saying I love you, Peter,
32:08
Speaker 1: you know, getting engaged to me. Even afterwards, you know,
32:12
Speaker 1: he had conversations with my parents about you know, making
32:14
Speaker 1: sure to make me feel loved and chosen in first
32:16
Speaker 1: place every single day and you know, he gave me
32:19
Speaker 1: those words of affirmation that kept me hopeful and kept
32:23
Speaker 1: me with him. And so it was a huge disappointment
32:25
Speaker 1: for my parents. I mean they were heartbroken as well.
32:29
Speaker 1: I think the main thing my dad says is he
32:31
Speaker 1: was like I tried to protect you. Like I tried,
32:34
Speaker 1: you know, I did everything that I could. But also,
32:37
Speaker 1: you know, I put my trust in Peter, who I
32:40
Speaker 1: really didn't know quite well, but I put my trust
32:43
Speaker 1: in him, and you know, this has happened. And I
32:46
Speaker 1: think my dad was, you know, so heartbroken because he
32:49
Speaker 1: felt like he didn't maybe necessarily do his part um
32:54
Speaker 1: and like protecting me. I the one thing I can
32:57
Speaker 1: really hear on is that season of in between. Um,
33:02
Speaker 1: you know you and I share some similar stories in
33:05
Speaker 1: a way, right, there is there wasn't another person in
33:08
Speaker 1: my story, but there was a broken engagement, there was
33:10
Speaker 1: a broken relationship that was publicly displayed. There was family
33:14
Speaker 1: pain involved. I have now been able to heal. Right.
33:17
Speaker 1: I want to promise you that if any pains and
33:20
Speaker 1: brokenness inside of you right now, like it's gonna heal,
33:22
Speaker 1: You're gonna be very happy one day. Um, you know
33:25
Speaker 1: I'm now engaged and uh and just thriving, I guess.
33:29
Speaker 1: But in the in the heat of it and in
33:32
Speaker 1: the heart of that season, it's hard, it's confusing. Um,
33:37
Speaker 1: it's it's heavy, and so there's a lot there to unpack, hannahan,
33:43
Speaker 1: because there's in my eyes, in my not like just
33:47
Speaker 1: thinking back, there's three elements. One is knowing that it's
33:50
Speaker 1: about to end, like getting the sense that something is
33:53
Speaker 1: desperately wrong. I remember that. Two is the ending, like
33:59
Speaker 1: the band they'd been ripped off, knowing that it's over.
34:02
Speaker 1: And three, at least in this show and this experience,
34:06
Speaker 1: is the public getting brought into this broke and this
34:09
Speaker 1: breakup and their opinions there dislike towards maybe Peter, their
34:14
Speaker 1: criticism of possibly you, their criticism of Peter's family, uh of,
34:19
Speaker 1: then the celebration of you, the celebration of Peter, the
34:22
Speaker 1: celebration of um Peter saying, like, all those elements are
34:26
Speaker 1: tied up into this and it makes it extremely hard
34:29
Speaker 1: and difficult and heavy for a season. So if we
34:31
Speaker 1: could start at point number one, when did you start
34:34
Speaker 1: to know that things were falling apart? Falling apart? It
34:39
Speaker 1: was about two weeks before we broke up. I just
34:44
Speaker 1: had a sense um that it was just going to
34:48
Speaker 1: be extremely difficult to work through this, and he was
34:52
Speaker 1: giving me. You know, the thing is is the most
34:54
Speaker 1: important thing I learned is that like when I'm with someone,
34:57
Speaker 1: I need to allow the them to show me who
35:01
Speaker 1: they are, not tell me, because you know, with me
35:04
Speaker 1: mine and Peter's timeline, he was just able to tell
35:06
Speaker 1: me who he is and not show me because we
35:11
Speaker 1: didn't have that much time. And then when we were separated,
35:14
Speaker 1: you know, he was living in California, I was still
35:16
Speaker 1: in Tynasee, so he wasn't able to like truly show
35:18
Speaker 1: me that only through his words, and he's very good
35:21
Speaker 1: with his words, and my and I love like I'm
35:25
Speaker 1: a words of affirmation kind of a person, so he
35:27
Speaker 1: was just able to send me his words to keep
35:30
Speaker 1: me in this And I think that's probably what like
35:34
Speaker 1: did us the most damaged, because I feel like if
35:36
Speaker 1: we were living close or were able to see each
35:39
Speaker 1: other more, maybe I would have or we both would
35:41
Speaker 1: have been able to pick up on two. I think
35:44
Speaker 1: we both would have been able to pick up on
35:45
Speaker 1: that we weren't good for one another. But he just,
35:49
Speaker 1: you know, continue giving me words of affirmation like he
35:52
Speaker 1: said he would. I did the same. And so when
35:55
Speaker 1: we were able to like truly have these serious conversations
35:59
Speaker 1: about season, it was just so like all over the
36:02
Speaker 1: place and so confusing, and like he kept giving me
36:06
Speaker 1: the words of affirmation to keep me there. But at
36:08
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, who do I go to,
36:10
Speaker 1: Like I need advice, Like I need to talk to
36:12
Speaker 1: someone who's been in this situation, and I couldn't, Like
36:15
Speaker 1: I was on my own. Um, I didn't tell anyone
36:19
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to bring anyone into this mess
36:23
Speaker 1: and then also have the contract of ABC, I can't
36:26
Speaker 1: open up to anyone. I was just like inside just
36:29
Speaker 1: like begging just for someone that I can go to
36:34
Speaker 1: and just be like what do I do? And I
36:36
Speaker 1: am I do you know? And I always kind of
36:38
Speaker 1: put it back on me, like am I not being
36:39
Speaker 1: supportive enough? Am I not being understand um? And it
36:43
Speaker 1: was just a mess for both of us because he
36:45
Speaker 1: had some people to reach out to, but he was
36:48
Speaker 1: lost still. It's it's interesting you're like isolated before isolation
36:56
Speaker 1: was something we all have to do, Like you were
36:58
Speaker 1: completely isolated, yeah, from I couldn't share my emotions I
37:02
Speaker 1: felt like with anyone because and that's why the season
37:05
Speaker 1: went unspoiled for the longest time, is because most of
37:09
Speaker 1: the time it gets like, you know, broke, it gets
37:12
Speaker 1: broken out through like whoever you know ends up with
37:15
Speaker 1: the bachelor bachelorette. But I, like, I made that commitment
37:20
Speaker 1: not to say anything, so that's pretty cool. Well, I
37:25
Speaker 1: didn't want everyone to be like, well, you ruined the
37:27
Speaker 1: season because you you told your friend and your friend
37:29
Speaker 1: you know, had a fun night at a bar and
37:31
Speaker 1: told someone like I never wanted that on me, Like
37:34
Speaker 1: I never wanted more criticism. You know. It's cool and
37:38
Speaker 1: hard though I was gonna say that that's like the
37:41
Speaker 1: weirdest word that came to my head it was cool
37:45
Speaker 1: for us to watch an unspoiled season, and it was
37:47
Speaker 1: cool for us. It's for you to you to abide
37:50
Speaker 1: by your contracts so well. But also but also like
37:56
Speaker 1: it's it's I feel so sad for you having to
38:00
Speaker 1: keep that in Um. Were you releast sharing it with
38:03
Speaker 1: your family? No? No, because I you know, when I
38:11
Speaker 1: called them after me and Peter broke up, they were
38:13
Speaker 1: like what, like they could send something was off about me,
38:17
Speaker 1: but they were very taken back. When Peter's parents were
38:19
Speaker 1: taken back, Um, Peter opened up to his parents about
38:23
Speaker 1: his emotions. I didn't because I knew my parents would
38:29
Speaker 1: advise me to just just walk away from it completely. Um.
38:34
Speaker 1: And also I think it was like a lot of pride,
38:37
Speaker 1: and you know, I made this commitment to him, and
38:39
Speaker 1: you know, I was excited. I told my grandparents and
38:42
Speaker 1: told my parents, and I didn't want like in my
38:48
Speaker 1: mind it was always going to be like a one
38:50
Speaker 1: and done, Like I had that concrete in my mind,
38:52
Speaker 1: like nothing was ever going to change that. You know,
38:54
Speaker 1: I said, yes, and we are together and we're gonna
38:56
Speaker 1: make it work. Um. And I took like a lot
39:00
Speaker 1: of like I was proud of us, and I was
39:02
Speaker 1: proud of you know, us as a couple, and I
39:05
Speaker 1: couldn't I wasn't ever gonna let any challenge or bump
39:09
Speaker 1: in the road take away from that. I thought we
39:11
Speaker 1: were supposed to be partners and you know, challenge one
39:14
Speaker 1: another and take on Lap's greatest, you know, our biggest trials. Um.
39:19
Speaker 1: So I was just kind of seeing this as a
39:20
Speaker 1: bump in the road, but really, in reality, we just
39:24
Speaker 1: were not compatible. Your vulnerability, They're like, I appreciate it
39:28
Speaker 1: because I get it, and I think take away the
39:30
Speaker 1: show from this, like a lot of people who feel
39:32
Speaker 1: that way when it comes to breakups is like they
39:34
Speaker 1: have pride, They've told their friends, they've told their family,
39:37
Speaker 1: they are excited, they know it's not for the best. Um.
39:41
Speaker 1: You know, you add in the public element to this,
39:43
Speaker 1: and I can relate with you is the embarrassment and
39:45
Speaker 1: the the fear in the sense that you feel when
39:49
Speaker 1: you know it's ending. Of Uh, what, like, how am
39:53
Speaker 1: I supposed to explain this? Like how especially coming from
39:56
Speaker 1: you know, I am a believer in Jesus. That's people
39:59
Speaker 1: at to the podcast do not That's not a surprise
40:02
Speaker 1: to him. Um. And it's not even that that adds
40:06
Speaker 1: a burden to it. It's the public perception of the
40:09
Speaker 1: conservative church, like the one that like, breaking up an
40:13
Speaker 1: engagement is such a huge deal, and you and I
40:17
Speaker 1: both have felt that, and I'm and I'm sorry that
40:19
Speaker 1: you've had to feel that, because that's it's hard and
40:21
Speaker 1: it's heavy. It's worked out for the best for me.
40:24
Speaker 1: I believe it will do the same for you. I
40:25
Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for sharing that because
40:27
Speaker 1: I remember that time and it was I mean, Ashley
40:30
Speaker 1: and I started the podcast like the week afterwards, and
40:33
Speaker 1: I know Ashley could remember how heavy that felt on
40:36
Speaker 1: me during that time. So Ashley, go ahead. Sorry, do
40:42
Speaker 1: you guys think that you broke up because you were incompatible?
40:44
Speaker 1: You keep saying you're you're incompatible. How do you think
40:47
Speaker 1: you're incompatible? And you think it was more that than
40:49
Speaker 1: it was his mind on someone else. I think we're
40:54
Speaker 1: incompatible because we don't see love the same way. We
40:59
Speaker 1: didn't see any engagement the same way. That's where I
41:03
Speaker 1: think we're incompatible. Also because I'm not I don't speak
41:07
Speaker 1: and have truths. He was speaking and have troops and
41:10
Speaker 1: never truly told me you know, it's like Jason and
41:12
Speaker 1: are like when they ended, you know, with the person
41:15
Speaker 1: that they've chosen. You know, they both were like, I'm
41:18
Speaker 1: going back to this person. They like they gave them
41:21
Speaker 1: that respect to tell them to their face. I was
41:23
Speaker 1: never given that. Um, that's why I think we're not
41:27
Speaker 1: compatible because we just we we communicate our emotions differently. Now,
41:33
Speaker 1: So watching that back and you comparing it to Ari
41:36
Speaker 1: and Jason, I'm thinking he didn't say I'm going to
41:39
Speaker 1: go after this person, because I don't even think he
41:43
Speaker 1: was sure if he was going to go back after Maddie.
41:45
Speaker 1: And now that we see all the Kelly stuff coming out,
41:49
Speaker 1: was he was he not trying to go after Mattie
41:51
Speaker 1: and thinking about somebody else thinking about Kelly? Yeah? Yeah,
41:58
Speaker 1: you are absolutely right. It's a different in situation and
42:01
Speaker 1: because it keeps getting up messier. But I kind of
42:06
Speaker 1: go back to my part with him is done, and um,
42:10
Speaker 1: whatever he does moving forward is his own business. I'm
42:13
Speaker 1: sure we'll continue to see headlines made about him. Did
42:18
Speaker 1: he ever? Did he ever get? Is that hard? No?
42:23
Speaker 1: It's not. And I'm being completely honest because I've been
42:27
Speaker 1: through harder and it's kind of what Ben was saying,
42:30
Speaker 1: the fear of us ending our engagement was the hardest part.
42:34
Speaker 1: You know, I've gone through like the terrible like where
42:38
Speaker 1: you just feel like you've hit rock bottom. Um. And
42:41
Speaker 1: so whatever he does now, it doesn't doesn't hurt because
42:44
Speaker 1: I'm just so thankful I'm not living that with him,
42:48
Speaker 1: living that confusion all over the place. Don't really know
42:52
Speaker 1: kind of where your head and heart's at. Like, I'm
42:54
Speaker 1: just so thankful that my part of it is done. Um,
43:00
Speaker 1: you know, I'm creating a happy, stable life for myself now.
43:04
Speaker 1: You know. Do you think did he ever say Madison's
43:08
Speaker 1: name and your breakup or the week's leading up to
43:11
Speaker 1: your breakup? Yes? Yeah, And it seemed as if his
43:16
Speaker 1: intention was to get back with her ala Ari and
43:19
Speaker 1: Jason not exactly, not exactly. Didn't seem like that. Um.
43:26
Speaker 1: I know, you know him and Kelly had messaged each
43:30
Speaker 1: other back and forth, um on Instagram and stuff. I
43:35
Speaker 1: just always taking I don't know, I don't think he
43:40
Speaker 1: had like ill intent. Um. I think he was just
43:43
Speaker 1: very very confused with his emotions, whether that was with
43:46
Speaker 1: Kelly or Madison, um, wherever that was. I don't think
43:50
Speaker 1: he truly even knew where his heart was at. Do
43:55
Speaker 1: you think that watching the show back made him think
43:58
Speaker 1: about Kelly again, because truly, at the end of their
44:01
Speaker 1: relationship on the show, it seemed like they were completely
44:06
Speaker 1: incompatible and that was not somebody who I thought he'd revisit. Yeah,
44:12
Speaker 1: ah walking, I mean watching back the season, probably he
44:16
Speaker 1: was reliving feelings for you know, Kelly and Madison and
44:21
Speaker 1: who and and and whoever else. His point of view was,
44:25
Speaker 1: it's always hard to see an X on TV. It's
44:28
Speaker 1: just it's uncomfortable in the hard So I would try
44:30
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, we're in a very different circumstance. Um,
44:35
Speaker 1: I guess I'll be understanding of that. But also, um,
44:39
Speaker 1: I kind of had to accept that, like I deserve
44:43
Speaker 1: to be with someone who is unwavering on how they
44:46
Speaker 1: feel towards me, or like they know exactly what they want,
44:51
Speaker 1: they know exactly where their hearts at and nothing's going
44:54
Speaker 1: to change that. So you say that he was messaging Kelly,
44:58
Speaker 1: and then you also made this you dropped a bomb
45:03
Speaker 1: on us when you said that he also had gone
45:05
Speaker 1: to Hannah By for some sort of closure. How did
45:08
Speaker 1: he go about that? If you're willing to tell us, Oh, yeah,
45:13
Speaker 1: with him and Kelly, I think they were. I know
45:17
Speaker 1: that he told me that they had communicated through Instagram.
45:21
Speaker 1: I don't know where that exactly began. I was just
45:23
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, you know, when I'm with someone,
45:25
Speaker 1: I trust them, and he's a you know, a good guy.
45:28
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't know when like more of
45:33
Speaker 1: their communication started. It probably started after, you know, after
45:38
Speaker 1: he was single again or once he was single again. Um.
45:42
Speaker 1: And then with Hannah Brown, he came to me saying
45:45
Speaker 1: that he needed closure with her, and I was just like,
45:50
Speaker 1: oh crap, Like, how am I supposed to feel about this? Um?
45:54
Speaker 1: You know, I thought, you know, when you're with someone,
46:00
Speaker 1: any anything that's gone on in the past, has like
46:03
Speaker 1: like you had closure. And all I've ever wanted is
46:07
Speaker 1: to be with someone and they're so happy to be
46:09
Speaker 1: with me. It makes sense why it never worked out
46:11
Speaker 1: with anyone else. That's beautiful. I mean, that's what we
46:14
Speaker 1: all hope, right, And I remember it's why you know,
46:19
Speaker 1: we didn't watch back my season during that time because
46:22
Speaker 1: it was gonna be too hard. It was too weird.
46:24
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just weird, Like you don't that's not natural.
46:27
Speaker 1: At any level. There's nothing about that that's healthy. Um
46:30
Speaker 1: to do, Hannah and Uh, I have we have to
46:33
Speaker 1: get to parts two and three and then we have
46:35
Speaker 1: to talk about barb um. But before we do, let's
46:39
Speaker 1: take one break. We have Hannah and on the almost
46:41
Speaker 1: famous in Debth podcast. We're gonna take a break and
46:43
Speaker 1: come back to speak more about her story and where
46:46
Speaker 1: she's at today. Hannah and I told you before the
46:57
Speaker 1: break that there is three ways that I view this
46:59
Speaker 1: knowing or we've been and one of them is leading
47:03
Speaker 1: up to the breakup. Two is the breakup, which we've
47:05
Speaker 1: talked about uh quite off quite a bit on this
47:07
Speaker 1: podcast so far. I do want to add one point, um,
47:11
Speaker 1: just maybe one commentary is that, Yeah, as actually mentioned earlier,
47:15
Speaker 1: the sympathy and empathy that you felt for Peter as
47:17
Speaker 1: that breakup was happening was beyond I mean, it's it's
47:20
Speaker 1: unlike anything uh the world really ever feels and sees like.
47:24
Speaker 1: Typically breakups are are just super ugly because both sides
47:28
Speaker 1: get defensive and contentious, and you didn't. Um, I just
47:32
Speaker 1: wanna before I get then the point three is I
47:35
Speaker 1: just want to know is from my side, and again
47:38
Speaker 1: this is me giving you commentary on your relationship, which
47:41
Speaker 1: is just so weird, so wrong. But is any of
47:44
Speaker 1: that because you know, this was after the show had
47:47
Speaker 1: started airing. You knew how much criticism Peter was already getting.
47:51
Speaker 1: You already knew how like chaotic his mind was and
47:54
Speaker 1: how confused he was, and you were just like thinking, hey,
47:58
Speaker 1: I love you still, I want it's best for you,
48:00
Speaker 1: but I know you just gotta go figure some stuff out.
48:02
Speaker 1: Or what was you Why were you so caring to
48:04
Speaker 1: him in that moment? I was so I mean, oh, well,
48:09
Speaker 1: thank you m because I loved him. You know, I
48:14
Speaker 1: was in love with him, and all I ever asked
48:16
Speaker 1: in return was the truth, And um, I went. Wasn't
48:21
Speaker 1: a sense relieved because you know, we were together, we
48:25
Speaker 1: were engaged for two months and it was just the
48:27
Speaker 1: last month was just hell. I mean, it was just
48:31
Speaker 1: trying to figure out you know, like when you're with
48:33
Speaker 1: someone you know something's up, something, but you can't quite
48:36
Speaker 1: put a finger on it. And we're still getting to
48:38
Speaker 1: know each other because we just got off the show.
48:41
Speaker 1: We're living apart. Um, his words aren't necessarily aligning up
48:47
Speaker 1: with the vibe I'm getting, And so when he finally
48:50
Speaker 1: told me, you know, the truth, that he can't give
48:53
Speaker 1: me his full heart. I was just had a sense
48:55
Speaker 1: of relief and just knew in my heart that he
48:59
Speaker 1: didn't me in it in an unkind way. Um, he
49:03
Speaker 1: was just very lost and confused. And I felt relieved
49:07
Speaker 1: in a sense that I can just kind of just
49:11
Speaker 1: pick up all the broken pieces and you know, slowly
49:13
Speaker 1: move on. Were you expecting production at that scene? I
49:19
Speaker 1: looked like, crap, Oh I didn't. You're beautiful always No, Okay, okay.
49:25
Speaker 1: If you guys ever watched a bag, you'll see that
49:27
Speaker 1: I had a pop blood vessels because I had a
49:29
Speaker 1: pop blove ve'ssel in my eye because I was crying
49:31
Speaker 1: so much leading up to that. My hair was all greasy,
49:33
Speaker 1: I had bags underneath my eyes. I looked like I
49:36
Speaker 1: had the breakup look going on. Um. We knew, um
49:41
Speaker 1: that they were going to be filming. Um. But before
49:44
Speaker 1: we got there, you know, we had a phone call
49:47
Speaker 1: that I think, like his last text me even was
49:50
Speaker 1: like that that we got this, that this is gonna
49:54
Speaker 1: be a difficult conversation, but we got this that were
49:57
Speaker 1: we were committed to each other. And I don't even
49:59
Speaker 1: think walk into you know, the house that day. Peter
50:03
Speaker 1: maybe even knew we were going to break up. I
50:05
Speaker 1: think it just kind of surfaced naturally. And when you're
50:09
Speaker 1: kind of pressured into having a conversation and um, you know,
50:14
Speaker 1: when he said he couldn't give me his full heart,
50:16
Speaker 1: that's when it's just like, you know, there's no turning back.
50:19
Speaker 1: You know, there's you. You don't repair that, especially once
50:25
Speaker 1: you're engaged. Like that's a pretty heavy comment to make.
50:28
Speaker 1: Like I think about my life with Jessica now, and
50:31
Speaker 1: if I looked at her and said I'm not gonna
50:32
Speaker 1: be able to give you my full heart like that
50:34
Speaker 1: would be really confusing for our relationship and in every
50:37
Speaker 1: way like that would discount what we were committing to
50:40
Speaker 1: and planning on, which is a life together. So I
50:43
Speaker 1: can imagine that was heavy and it makes sense that
50:46
Speaker 1: things ended during that time, But they did. I mean,
50:49
Speaker 1: that's the note we take from this is they ended. Uh.
50:53
Speaker 1: And before I leave it to Ashley to kind of
50:55
Speaker 1: talk about life now with you, I want to just
50:56
Speaker 1: get a note on this is the third piece of
50:59
Speaker 1: what I said was life afterwards that I remember going
51:02
Speaker 1: around and telling my friends. The hardest part about a
51:04
Speaker 1: breakup publicly is that everybody picks a team there, their team, you,
51:09
Speaker 1: their team the other person, or they're just uh, not
51:13
Speaker 1: supportive at all. And so you hear people back they
51:16
Speaker 1: think people think it feels good to bad mouth the
51:19
Speaker 1: person that hurt you, um and this when it doesn't.
51:22
Speaker 1: You don't want that, and I know you don't want that.
51:24
Speaker 1: For Peter, how has life been, uh since the breakup
51:29
Speaker 1: with the rumors that have been swirling? Uh? And then Ashley,
51:32
Speaker 1: I'll let you, uh to speak about kind of what
51:35
Speaker 1: how the impact of Peter's family has been on your
51:37
Speaker 1: life because I know they were close with you. It's
51:39
Speaker 1: been like so amazing all of the support I've been given,
51:44
Speaker 1: just you know, the encouragement. It all kind of came
51:46
Speaker 1: out once because you know, at first I was holding
51:49
Speaker 1: in like a very exciting secret that I was engaged,
51:52
Speaker 1: couldn't even tell my best friend. And then I was
51:55
Speaker 1: afterwards we broke up, and I was holding in this
51:58
Speaker 1: horrible secret you know, that I've been engaged and I've
52:02
Speaker 1: been betrayed. And I had felt like I had the
52:06
Speaker 1: support of my family and you know, close friends that
52:09
Speaker 1: knew I was going through difficult time. But I at
52:13
Speaker 1: the same time felt very isolated. So then overnight it
52:15
Speaker 1: turned into I had, you know, dozens and thousands of
52:20
Speaker 1: people that are on my side, that are cheering me on,
52:24
Speaker 1: and it was the most incredible feeling. It literally happened overnight.
52:27
Speaker 1: So it was just I went from feeling isolated and
52:31
Speaker 1: not being able to tell anyone about what I was
52:33
Speaker 1: going through to like everyone knowing and getting so much
52:36
Speaker 1: support and it like truly and it meant so much
52:38
Speaker 1: more because I didn't have that before, you know, and
52:41
Speaker 1: so like every compliment or every encouraging word, like it
52:45
Speaker 1: means so much more to me. We um, you know,
52:48
Speaker 1: after after this conversation today, it's very apparent why Barb
52:53
Speaker 1: would love you so much, and after and after after
52:57
Speaker 1: seeing the way that you disrespect it loved her son
53:01
Speaker 1: even through that breakup scene. We get it, like we
53:04
Speaker 1: get why Barba looves you now, but we also want
53:08
Speaker 1: to know more about like your lunch date you know
53:11
Speaker 1: with her, like when they had the families and you
53:14
Speaker 1: met the family for the first time, like she you
53:17
Speaker 1: left her on cloud nine. Tell us more about what
53:21
Speaker 1: we didn't see there. Yeah, so meeting Peter's family like
53:26
Speaker 1: that was and still is like one of the best
53:31
Speaker 1: days I think I've ever had, just because I loved
53:34
Speaker 1: his family so much. I just felt like an instant bond.
53:37
Speaker 1: So when I walk in, I start okay. When me
53:40
Speaker 1: and Barba eyes on each other for the first time,
53:42
Speaker 1: we both started crying. We started crying, and we just
53:48
Speaker 1: instantly connected. Like we sit down on the couch and
53:52
Speaker 1: like we have like short like a little like like
53:55
Speaker 1: a little conversation. And then his parents were like, oh
53:58
Speaker 1: my gosh, you you guys are just like us, like
54:01
Speaker 1: and then we do it cheers of her saying like
54:04
Speaker 1: I hope like you are a part of our family,
54:07
Speaker 1: something along those lines. And Barbe told me she loved
54:12
Speaker 1: me before Peter did. That is fantastic. She was like,
54:19
Speaker 1: I just want to take you home with me to
54:21
Speaker 1: l a like please come back, please, I just want
54:23
Speaker 1: to take you home, Come on, Peter. And so but
54:26
Speaker 1: Barbe still gave, you know, she still you know, gave
54:29
Speaker 1: me some tough love and you know, asked me some
54:31
Speaker 1: difficult questions about, you know, my faith and my lifestyle
54:35
Speaker 1: and how we would fit together and if I love
54:38
Speaker 1: Peter or not. So we definitely had you know, those
54:41
Speaker 1: difficult conversations. But you know, I was just myself and
54:44
Speaker 1: I think our common ground or our common ground was
54:47
Speaker 1: is that she loves Peter and I loved him, and
54:49
Speaker 1: we were always going to look out for him. And
54:52
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think she just really appreciated appreciated
54:55
Speaker 1: that I just like accepted accepted him for who he
54:58
Speaker 1: is and was in Um, it was always just going
55:02
Speaker 1: to try to be like the best partner that I
55:04
Speaker 1: could be for him. How did you feel about Barbara
55:07
Speaker 1: after seeing the way she treated Maddie on the Live show? Yeah,
55:12
Speaker 1: something must have happened, you know. I feel like we're
55:16
Speaker 1: missing a huge part of that story. Yeah. Yeah, thankfully
55:21
Speaker 1: I'm not a part of that story, but I know
55:24
Speaker 1: her well enough to know, you know, she's been nothing
55:26
Speaker 1: but kind to me. Um, she you know, I said
55:29
Speaker 1: multiple times I considered her a second mom. But something
55:33
Speaker 1: must have happened there, and UM, I'm glad I'm out
55:36
Speaker 1: of it. One of the things we always like to do,
55:40
Speaker 1: Hannah and UH is kind of in these in depth
55:43
Speaker 1: episodes with giving you this the time to speak to
55:46
Speaker 1: anybody out there listening. Um, because I know there's stuff
55:49
Speaker 1: that you felt. There's anxieties you felt, there's joys that
55:52
Speaker 1: you felt, there's things you want to celebrate with people,
55:54
Speaker 1: and there's things that have that you've had a push
55:56
Speaker 1: and meat the surface. Uh, We're just gonna give you
55:58
Speaker 1: this time. I don't know, take his long as you
56:00
Speaker 1: want to. Anybody out there listening going, hey, honey, and
56:02
Speaker 1: this has been awesome. I feel like I'm finally getting
56:04
Speaker 1: to know you, or maybe I've always loved you and
56:07
Speaker 1: this just solidifies that love. Or maybe somebody out there
56:09
Speaker 1: is going hannay and I don't understand you and I
56:13
Speaker 1: need to know more. Uh. What would you say to
56:16
Speaker 1: anybody out there listening who has followed your journey for
56:18
Speaker 1: the last year, um, and and who just wants to
56:22
Speaker 1: hear from you. I think you know, in the beginning
56:25
Speaker 1: of the season, a lot of people got like, you know,
56:28
Speaker 1: the wrong impression of me. But I'm really grateful for
56:31
Speaker 1: each person that has been able to like stay open
56:35
Speaker 1: minded about me and still been you know, and been
56:37
Speaker 1: able to like see my journey and UM, just take
56:40
Speaker 1: me for who I am. I mean, this journey or
56:45
Speaker 1: this experience I don't like to say journey, but this
56:47
Speaker 1: experience season, Uh, this season of life has just been.
56:52
Speaker 1: You know, I've experienced like the highs. You know I've
56:56
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the highs. But I also know, you know,
56:58
Speaker 1: I can survive like the lowest points that I feel
57:02
Speaker 1: like life can get. There's been times where like I
57:04
Speaker 1: just don't even feel getting up out of bed because
57:06
Speaker 1: I was just so hurt and broken and scared for
57:09
Speaker 1: all this to come out. So really, like my word
57:13
Speaker 1: for anyone is we can all be bonded by one thing,
57:16
Speaker 1: and that is we all hurt. We all are going
57:19
Speaker 1: to suffer at some point in our lives, whether it's
57:21
Speaker 1: through a heartbreak or hardship. But just know that, you know,
57:26
Speaker 1: if you are never truly alone. Even in my situation,
57:29
Speaker 1: and I couldn't open up to very many people about it,
57:32
Speaker 1: but for me, like my foundation was my faith and
57:35
Speaker 1: what truly brought me through it, and like how I
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Speaker 1: like how I felt like my heart was so damaged
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Speaker 1: and just twisted and broken, like I just ultimately just
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Speaker 1: just gave it to God because I knew that he
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Speaker 1: was in control and that he would never allow this
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Speaker 1: to happen if he didn't have like a greater plan,
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Speaker 1: And that brought like a lot of peace and every day.
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Speaker 1: I had to choose peace. I had to choose joy.
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Speaker 1: I had to choose letting it all go, you know,
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Speaker 1: because I had had anchor, I had sadness. I you know,
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Speaker 1: I had so many emotions and I just had to
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Speaker 1: choose every single day not to allow that to get
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Speaker 1: the best of me and to make me a better person. Well,
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Speaker 1: Hannah and Uh, I appreciate you should being here today.
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Speaker 1: It's been awesome talking to you. It's been great to
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Speaker 1: finally get to know you. You You are really just terrific
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Speaker 1: interview and not like, hey, you're the terrific interview because
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Speaker 1: you put on a show. It's just a good interview.
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Speaker 1: It's fun to talk to you. Um. You remind me
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Speaker 1: a lot of our interview with Hannah g that we did. Um,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how long ago, very similar, Ashley. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's now your time to do one of your favorite
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Speaker 1: things on any in depth episode, UM take over. Okay,
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Speaker 1: are you ready for a little rapid fire? We like
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Speaker 1: to finish it out fun and it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: Bachelor edition of rapid Fire. Okay ready, so you can
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Speaker 1: just use like two or three words. Have you been
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Speaker 1: on a date since breaking up with Peter. Yes. Have
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Speaker 1: you been on multiple dates with the same person since
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Speaker 1: breaking up with Peter? Yes? Was this person a bachelor person? No? Okay? Um,
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Speaker 1: is there somebody in Bachelor Nation that you think is
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Speaker 1: cute and you'll be open to dating? Um? Not right now.
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Speaker 1: I think everyone's great, but I would have to get
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Speaker 1: to know them first before society and you have to
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Speaker 1: stop dating whoever it is that you've been dating before
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Speaker 1: you could or I'm not dating, I'm not exclusive, I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna be exclusive for a long Do you have
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Speaker 1: to answer that truthfully? Of going off of that, would
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Speaker 1: you be open to Bachelor in Paradise? Yes, I'd be open.
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Speaker 1: And who is the bachelor ALAM who has reached out
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Speaker 1: and been the most supportive bachelor ALAM? Other than Hannah? Okay?
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Speaker 1: And of Hannah gee oh man, there's there's been a few.
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Speaker 1: Raven has been really great and Cassie. I've spoken with
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Speaker 1: Cassie quite a bit. Um. Yeah, they're both two really
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Speaker 1: good ones. I really like both of them. And Hannah
1:00:16
Speaker 1: you wait? First off? Great question? Uh? Have you always
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Speaker 1: been Hannah? And or is it because last season had
1:00:23
Speaker 1: so many Hannahs that you became Hannah? And Yeah? Well, uh,
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Speaker 1: I wanted so, like growing up like in the South,
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Speaker 1: there's obviously a lot of hannah's um and plussing this out.
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Speaker 1: This like typical for like it to be a double name.
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Speaker 1: So his name after both my grandmother's. I had Grandma
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Speaker 1: Hannah and then Grandma Carol Anne, and so I was
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Speaker 1: the firstborn grandchild and my grandmother's refuting over who was
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Speaker 1: gonna be named after. So when I was younger, I
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Speaker 1: was always called Hannah ann Um And then going on
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Speaker 1: to the show just with Hannah Brown and Hannah Gee,
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well let's push it back to Hannah. Yeah, ok,
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Speaker 1: eprict Well it was a good decision, a really good decision.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here today. I just
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Speaker 1: love getting to know you, and it just reaffirms for
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Speaker 1: me that like, we can't pretend like we know these
1:01:12
Speaker 1: people on TV when we're watching because there's so much
1:01:16
Speaker 1: that we don't get to see in your storyline, and uh,
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Speaker 1: it's it was. It's too bad we didn't get to
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Speaker 1: know you on TV as well as we've gotten to
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Speaker 1: know today. Thank you guys for me the opportunity to
1:01:28
Speaker 1: share more of myself and you know, to listen to
1:01:31
Speaker 1: you guys. You guys have been awesome. It's been like
1:01:33
Speaker 1: very therapeutic. This is a good therapy for me. I agree. Well,
1:01:38
Speaker 1: that's what these in the Depth episodes are about. Hey,
1:01:40
Speaker 1: if if we don't get to know you well enough
1:01:43
Speaker 1: through this show, then you're gonna come on here. Uh,
1:01:45
Speaker 1: and Nash and I just want to sit down and
1:01:47
Speaker 1: get to know you better. Handing and thanks again, Handy.
1:01:49
Speaker 1: I need you to participate in one last thing. Okay. Um,
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Speaker 1: we end every episode of the Almost Famous Podcast in
1:01:55
Speaker 1: the same way, so follow our lead. Okay, you're gonna
1:01:58
Speaker 1: be doing the same thing as us. Hey, listeners out there, Uh,
1:02:02
Speaker 1: you've been great. Uh, we appreciate you. I hope, we
1:02:05
Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed listening to Hannah and on the in
1:02:07
Speaker 1: Depth podcast. Once again, to reiterate what Ashley said, Hannah
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Speaker 1: and was amazing with that, I've been been, I've been Ashley,
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Speaker 1: I've been hand Later, guys, follow the Benn and Ashley
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Speaker 1: be watching. We'll be watching, and you guys don't want
1:02:35
Speaker 1: fomo because we'll be watching. We'll be getting really invested
1:02:38
Speaker 1: in these couples and their performances. And if you're not watching,
1:02:43
Speaker 1: then you're not going to know what we're talking about
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Speaker 1: every week