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7-20-26 Hour 1 World Cup Reaction · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Is Brett Kine dead.
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: Could be if Burton only was here, Burton only would
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: predict that. I don't think he's I don't think he's
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: actually six feet under. I think he's just really sick today.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: All right, So this is how it works.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Cain called us or texted us in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the morning saying he was not going to.
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  Speaker 2: Make it kind of the middle of the night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, uh, no appetizer and we're going to handle
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  Speaker 1: the show from here. It's Dick Lombardi and Mark Moser
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  Speaker 1: along with Jesse Trhello and Jesse stop stop.
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  Speaker 2: This has a chance today when you and I revert
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  Speaker 2: back to eight years ago. Yeah, and we've got Alfonso
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  Speaker 2: on the board, Jesse Trujel. Yeah, this has I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this has a real opportunity to be a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: Or an opportunity to go the wayback machine and really
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  Speaker 1: recapture the magic that made the station what it is today.
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  Speaker 2: Ah see, that's a positive attitude. Like my friend, so
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  Speaker 2: Vic's there, I'm here. We're gonna be doing our thing
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: all day long. I hope you had a good weekend,
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: a long weekend. That's why the appetizer hour wasn't here.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Kaner was sick, you know, and it's four in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: and people get text messages, you don't necessarily see them, right,
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  Speaker 2: so nobody could fill in. And here we are doing
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  Speaker 2: the regular show.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: What I'm gonna need if you get a chance there,
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  Speaker 1: Jesse's to send me all the reads are supposed to
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  Speaker 1: have for these shows, because when you're doing the traffic stuff,
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: you got to read everything. So I'm gonna need to
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: read some stuff during the course of this program. But
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: it's moj and I and we had a fun filled
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: sports weekend overall. The World Cup champion is Spain. They dominated.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: Even though I was pulling for Argentina, I wasn't impressed
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: with the way Argentina reacted after the loss. They got embarrassed,
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  Speaker 1: they got out shot a ridiculous number, they got outplayed,
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  Speaker 1: and then at the end of that game they start
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  Speaker 1: a fight. I mean, it was absolutely ludicrous. I don't
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: know why the Argentinian players were so salty, but they were.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: And Spain looked like the dominant power in the world.
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  Speaker 1: That is a damn good soccer team.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: And I know, I know you complained about their style earlier.
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  Speaker 2: I know it works. I mean, it's it's effective. Their possession.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: It's funny. I think when all these teams have been
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: running into Spain Vic, they don't know what to do,
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: They don't know how to handle it, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. At least Spain also went for it today
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: or yesterday, I should say, went forward on that day.
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  Speaker 2: Argentina was just a mess, an absolute mess. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that I'm a city here and talk about
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  Speaker 2: no strategic avenues of World Cup soccer, but it's clear
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: to see that Spain was the best and they they
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  Speaker 2: frustrated the snot out of Argentina most. Even Messi couldn't.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: Even Messi couldn't save them.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: And everybody refers to Spain and the way they play
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  Speaker 1: offensively but defensively they gave up one freaking goal the
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  Speaker 1: entire tournament.
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  Speaker 2: One.
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  Speaker 1: They were that darn good on that end of the field,
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  Speaker 1: and usually that's what wins a War Cup, and Spain
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: deserved it more than ever. Overall, I thought the World
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: Cup was fantastic. I thought the United States, along with
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: Mexico and Canada of the North American World Cup, it
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: had everything you wanted. Every game was a sellout, Every
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  Speaker 1: game was exciting. Every game opposing fans got into it.
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that the rest of the world
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  Speaker 1: got to come to the United States and enjoy what
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  Speaker 1: we have to offer here. It was awesome. I to
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you, I don't know what wasn't good
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: Alfonso, You've been around soccer for an awfully long time,
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: work for the Rapids for an awfully long time. What
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: do your peeps say about the way the World Cup
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: was received here in the US and North America, Canada, Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: From everyone that I've heard that, I've heard that it
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  Speaker 3: was a good turnout. I mean, I think I saw
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  Speaker 3: yesterday there was six million fans that came to all
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  Speaker 3: the stadiums all together.
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  Speaker 1: But oh and they got price gouge, that's for sure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I think less than in American capitalism. Some of
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  Speaker 1: the prices were ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think all the watch parties. I saw
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  Speaker 3: that number thirty eight was the number one bar in
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: America for watch parties for the World Cup. So I
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  Speaker 3: think it was a received very well.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Did you guys see yesterday, By the way, did you
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  Speaker 1: go to any games?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I went to uh Iran versus Egyptian Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, is that the same one. Now d MAC went
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  Speaker 1: to another game, or tried to go.
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  Speaker 3: D MAC went to the or tried to go to
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  Speaker 3: the US versus Belgium game.
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  Speaker 1: How much was your ticket?
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  Speaker 3: Two seventy five a ticket?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 2: No, not too bad.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't bad at all. So overall the ticket price
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: has got more expensive for the Marquee games. Did you
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: guys notice yesterday as I'm going through social media, Peyton
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: Watson was at that game in the Meadowlands. So was
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: Jared Stidham really Mironco's backup quarterback representing the city of
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: Denver at that game. Uh? The game itself, yeah, say
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: what you want, Spain was gonna win. You could tell
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: from the very beginning. I thought the things surrounding the game,
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: mosh not your kind of music, halftime show was awesome.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: I thought, let me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me without the Muppets. Okay, I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: the whole Muppet thing, but whatever I.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I guess part of me. Okay, let me let
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  Speaker 2: me back up. I don't mind Muppets because when I
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: was a little kid, the Muppet Show was on TV,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, little kids like Muppet show,
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: even if it's for adults, little kids like Muppets. Right,
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: Kermit's out there and as piggies out there doing her
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  Speaker 2: thing animals on the drums. It takes you back. You'd
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: be surprised to how I felt about that halftime show, vic.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: I liked it. In fact, I like parts of it.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: I think Madonna is way too She's way too old
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: to be years of age. Okay, she's trying to be
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: twenty seven years of age. I just think there comes
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: a time to let it go. I mean, is that
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  Speaker 2: a bad Is that a bad way to think about it? Now?
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: There comes a time.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: Feel the same way about the bands you like. You
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: feel the same way about sam Sammy Hagar, who embarrasses
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  Speaker 1: himself when he takes.
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: This the hell he does that mother Trucker can still
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: sing well no, but but they're not trying to be
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  Speaker 2: something that they're not anymore. The band's Eyeline. I mean
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  Speaker 2: he wears a T shirt and flip flops and blue
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  Speaker 2: jeans on stage. Bro, I mean he's not he's not
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  Speaker 2: or you know, Tennis, he's not.
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  Speaker 1: Are you saying that a sixty seven year old is
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: not allowed to be a sex symbol anymore? She's in
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  Speaker 1: great shape.
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  Speaker 2: What are you saying, I've never been a Madonna guy ever.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: I've never been a Madonna guy, and she's never ever
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: done it for me in any sort of capacity. What
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  Speaker 2: so lo Then well, yeah, I mean it's not hate,
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  Speaker 2: it's just apathy. I've just never I've never been a
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  Speaker 2: Madonna well only I hate her, Okay, So so when
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  Speaker 2: she's out, I'm like, come on, man, you're not twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven anymore. You're not like a virgin anymore. Right, I
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: just there comes a point when you got to when
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: you've got to turn the page on that it maybe
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: dress a little more modestly. I don't know, listen, I don't,
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: it's not my business. I thought Shakira was awesome. I
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: thought Bieber was awesome. But I don't think a slow song. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was that song he was singing. I know he
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: was playing really well. He did a great job. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that that slow is good for that that halftime.
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  Speaker 1: Show to be the more upbeat song. I thought BTS
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  Speaker 1: was great. Are you familiar with BTS's work. Obviously not.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were great. Moser has no concept to BTS.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I don't I.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: Think that's that. It's at the Korean boy band.
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: Well, let me say this Hardemy's proud. I don't have
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: any concept of BTS because they didn't like that very well.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: I thought that was great, okay, I thought they were
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: fantastic that the little ted lasso and uh I thought
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: that was stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was you uppets were stupid. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, So we agree on some things. We disagree on
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: some other things.
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  Speaker 1: Although the Muppets doing seven Nations Army is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Did I get that right? No, Jesse, what do you
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  Speaker 2: call that? You tell me, Jesse, what do you know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the name of the group.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: At least I think is.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Soccer by Storm. I saw like a little mini documentary
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  Speaker 1: on how that happened. Started doing that in Belgium or
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: the Netherlands or somewhere for games, and then when Italy
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: won the euro Cup, they started doing that there and
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: really it got crazy. Yeah, like now every every European
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: soccer stadium does that. Chant.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but when I'm watching these
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: halftime shows and whatnot, I'm like, you know, they're they're
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: they're trying. You know, some I like some, I don't like,
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: but I'll say this, The overwhelming thought in my head
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  Speaker 2: besides hey, Shakira is dancing great, and the Beabs is
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: playing great on his get Bob and so on, is
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: how in the hell do you pull that off? How
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  Speaker 2: in the hell do you take? How long was that? Jesse?
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  Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes? Thirty minutes maybe something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I saw twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how do you take twenty seven minutes? Vic? With
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  Speaker 2: all of those moving parts, all of those changes, all
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  Speaker 2: of the people, all of the choreography, all of the
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  Speaker 2: people holding the world flag around in a circle and
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  Speaker 2: muppets and movement, and how do you make that happen?
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: How do you do it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, But ask the same question about how
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Spain makes it happen. Because Spain's style of play, their
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  Speaker 1: ability to always have an outlet, their ability to always
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  Speaker 1: have a pass to go to, is what makes them
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  Speaker 1: so effective, and it allows them to push up and
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  Speaker 1: move up, and it allows the defense to always feel calm.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's never any there's never any panic with
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  Speaker 1: the way Spain play soccer because of the way they play,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: so whatever they're doing in the Spanish Federation of soccer.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: Whatever they're doing there. I know a lot of countries
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: want to model that process because it is awesome. It
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: felt bad for Messi. He was obviously very distraught afterwards.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: I wanted Argentina, but I wasn't proud of the way
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Argentina reacted. That was a horrible reaction after the game.
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: It was it was just fighting everyone pretty power sportsman.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: To be honest, it's probably the way I would react.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you won four years ago. I mean
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: it's not like you don't have one yet.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: You won before that too, But it was so you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was no reason to be angry on their part. Frustrated, yes,
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  Speaker 1: but angry you got thoroughly dominated motion you got. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it wasn't even the close game. You saw the
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  Speaker 1: shots on goal going into extra times shots on goal
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  Speaker 1: were twenty to nothing. They did not attempt to shot
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  Speaker 1: on gold.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well they not in regulation. They did twice
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  Speaker 2: in the extra time. Yeah, but that's what I mean.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: Think about that, dude. Try to think of that. I
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: don't know equally in hockey. I mean, imagine one team
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  Speaker 2: having twenty shots on goal and the other team having none.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: I try to imagine that, right, I mean, you can't
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: because it would never happen. But how do you go
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: through regulation soccer plus stoppage time and not have a
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  Speaker 2: shot on goal?
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  Speaker 1: How I don't know, because they couldn't get past that spa,
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: that Spanish paywall. That's whatever Spain did defensively, it worked.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: And overall what most for me the memories of this
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: World Cup, and it's hard to look back at it
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: now because it feels like years ago, even though it
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: was a couple of weeks ago. The way the US
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: came out in the first few games was so dominant,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: they looked so damn good, and then they got sort
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: of they got worse as the tournament wore on, and
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: the way it ended against Belgium wasn't fun. But the
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  Speaker 1: first couple of games of the US, the way they
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: performed the first two games absolutely dynamic, awesome. What else
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: are you gonna remember from the Cup?
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna remember just the the overall I think, maybe,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: like Jesse said, six million people coming to North America,
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: but the amount of enjoyment that people seem to have
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: at this World Cup, you know, the the overall, the
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: anecdotal stories, this Scottish people who moved into the Airbnb
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: and made a new friend across the street, and you know,
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: people traveling America and trying different things. I thought all
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: of that was pretty cool, the cultural aspect of it.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: In addition to VIC I thought there were some very
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: very good games. Now I know that I was all
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: over it on Friday. I don't give a crap about
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: the third place game. Who cares about third place? Did
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: you watch it? Yeah? Well then you know, and all
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, good God almighty. I mean that's that's
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: crazy because they really didn't care. No, of course not no,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: I mean it didn't mean squad.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was probably the most entertaining game of
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: the lot.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: I will say if we had more games like that
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: in the course of the regular World Cup play, that
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: might be more exciting. You just are you one of
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: those I'm a goals guy, Yeah, I'm a goal you know. Yeah.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: But I I think Norway, the way they broke into
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: it in Holland and his stuff and the row, that
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: was awesome. A new country sort of taking center stage
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: outside of the normal ones. At the end of the day, though,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: moj World Cup Soccer sort of still like the SEC
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: and the Big ten. It's the same schools, it's the
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: same teams, right, it's still the European Union in South America.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Those are the only the only two continents
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: to win World Cups. Yeah, South yep, South America. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: No one else, no one else has. I'm not sure
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: when somebody else will. But that's what it comes down to.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't know what. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know what it would take. I don't
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: know how you get South Korea all of a sudden
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: really good, you know, you get you get an Asian country.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Really I don't know how you do that, because well.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: One of those African countries is gonna win soon. I mean,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you there are some African countries that can bolve.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Morocco's really good, really good, and they've come close. They've
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: come close.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Ship came close to beating Argentina. Ghana is a very
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: good team and they've been good. Senegal really shined in
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: this tournament. So there are some teams from Africa that
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: can play, and they're only gonna get better. Will will
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: North America represent what you.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Talked about the great start for Team USA Again, I
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: don't know how this carries over, but it's four years away, man,
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  Speaker 2: And how do you carry any kind of momentum four
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: years from now. It's gonna be a completely and totally
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: different scenario, completely and totally different story, right.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we didn't even have to qualify for this one
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  Speaker 2: because we were a host country, so we got in automatically.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, what what does it mean
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: for USA soccer going forward? I think I'll pay attention
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: now a little bit more than I than I did. Okay,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I'll start watching some some more international stuff. I mean,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: there are times when all early in the morning on
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: a Saturday or Sunday, I'll I'll put on the EPL
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: and watch some regular games. You know, I'm a Brentford guy,
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: so if Brentford's on, I'll certainly watch them, but probably
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: watch a little bit more.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. And this is my
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: question to everyone listening. Appreciate you listening. Brett Kaine's not
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: here this morning. We don't know where he is. He's missing.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: But the question is will this carry over? Will this
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: interest in soccer carry over for you? Or is it
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: simply World Cup and the nationalism that goes with the
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: World Cup because I think that's at play more than
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: you think most I think nationalism is part of this tournament.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: You're rooting for countries, you're rooting for factions. You're clearly
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: rooting for the US, unless you're Allen Baka, You're rooting
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: for certain teams. Does it carry over when these teams
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: disassemble and go back to their respective spots. I don't
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: know if it does. I don't because I'll be the
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: first to admit I'm a World Cup soccer fanatic fanatic,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: but I'm not necessarily a soccer fanatic, right Like, I
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: don't watch the rest of the sport as closely as
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I do the World Cup. When the Cup comes around
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: every four years, I'm all in every game. I will
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: watch every game, But you know, the EPL gets going
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: in a month, I I ain't watching it, correct, I'm
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: just not.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Is it almost like how often do you watch track
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: and field during the course of a year.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: You don't?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Although that did you see that guy from oh the
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: guy who just set the new the mile record the mile?
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah at at an average of sixteen miles.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: He ran an average of sixteen miles an hour for
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: a mile. Dude, bro that's impossible.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Bro, I was on the vest Bo yesterday and I
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: put it specifically at sixteen miles an hour, just to
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: feel what that would be like that pace, to run
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: a mile at that pace? Do you understand how ridiculous
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: that is?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Insane? What's that kid's name, that guy's name, I mean,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: he's not a kid, I forget TJ.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Jones or something like that. That was unbelievable. And he
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: said it on the track right, it was the Diamond
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Games or something like that. He had a great pace set.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: He looked like Secretariat in front of the other runners.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: But my goodness, to me, of all the feats we
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: witnessed over the weekend, dude, it took year centuries for
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: someone to crack the four minute mile barrier. We're inching,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: never closer to three and a half minutes.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: That seems impossible. It doesn't seem like the human body
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: is capable of that. You Like, there's no cheetah that's
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: gonna be able to run one hundred and fifty one
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: day if he trains the He's just it can't. They
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: can't do anymore.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Most realize the pace he was at all, right, the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: pace that he set was so fast that most of
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: us couldn't do that in one hundred yards.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I couldn't run across the parking lot at his pace.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: You're right, that's correct. It's insane to me anyway. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: guess the point I'm getting at is I don't watch
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: like long jump, and during the course of the year,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not watching you know, decathlon and two hundred meters.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: So it's the nationalism, yeah, I mean, it's the So
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the Olympic Games come around. Hell yeah, I'm I'm tuning
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: into whatever's on TV, you know. The I don't watch
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: kayaking on television, the World Kayaking Championships, I don't. But
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: if the Olympic Toronto watched and dunk themselves and rolled
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: around and splashed in the water and USA and good
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: job and you know, weaving it out of those gate things.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: All right when we come back, no Caine, But there
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: is other stuff going on. Uh. The the Rockies are
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: still last in the National League, but the hell have
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a hell of a catcher and the British Open. Speaking
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of sports abroad, I don't know how closely you watch
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the final round. But if you're Cameron Young and you're
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: just waiting in the clubhouse, for that to end. Can
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you imagine can you imagine sitting there for two hours saying,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: let's go already?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Are we going to a playoff? Man?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: What a finish at the British Open Royal Birksdale. You
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: got Mosia, Lombardi and Kane ninety two point five. We're
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: back after this Mosia Lombardi, no Kane. This morning, Brett
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Kane is sick. Apparently, Hey don't we He better get
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: well by tomorrow night. Aren't we doing our Rockies our
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: annual Rockies baseball game.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: We're supposed to, Yes, we're supposed to. If he ain't
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: making it, then I ain't making it. So that's just
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the way it goes. Incidentally, what we do on this
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: program a lot we break down the fourth wall, like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: we talk about things that typical radio shows don't talk
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: about in regards to their show. And let me give
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you an example, Jesse, that Breaks sucked. You jacked the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: whole You jacked the whole thing up. Now maybe people
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: out there wouldn't know how bad you really jacked that
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: whole break up, but you did. You jacked it up.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: That was an embarrassment to Breaks.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Jesse. I'm okay with that Okay, I'm sure. Yeah, that's great.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Fall was like, yeah, you know, the same, the same,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: my day gig.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So before we move on, I want to congratulate you,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Mark Moser and the entire Colorado Avalanche broadcast team for
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Altitude TV two Emmys, one over the weekend. One for Game,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: which you're part of obviously in post Game, which you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: also participate in. But it's the best postgame show in
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: television in my opinion, in local television and rightfully, so
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you got an Emmy for that, and you got an
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Emmy for game broadcasts. So congratulations to you and yours.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Thanks, dude, appreciate that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, we also want another Emmy for our
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: interview with Marcelo Balboa. So three emmys for the crew
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: at Altitude Television. Good stuff over the week I don't
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: want I had no idea the Emmys were going on
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: over the weekend.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: What I say when I say that our Altitude crew
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: is really good and I'm not throwing myself into that,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: but and I'm not even talking about people in front
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of the camera. I'm talking about everybody else vic that
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: helps put together all these you know, all these shows
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: that they work so hard and they're so good at
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: what they do that for a guy like me, it
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: makes it a lot, you know, it's a lot easier.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And these people make me look as good as I
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: possibly could, because if I had to do it on
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: my own, I would I wouldn't be able to do it,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so that crew that
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of course that I work with, the ones that you
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: work with, and everything and so on and so forth.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: It's really good. There's really good at what they do.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: So thanks, Vick, I appreciate that. It's very nice of you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: British Open. First of all, it's weird seeing and we're
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: suffering the same fate here in Denver with the drought
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that's going on. I know you play golf over the weekend.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I played a lot of golf. There's no real rough
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: because everything's dead or dying right. Grass is dying, and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: for those of you who play golf locally you have
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: noticed it. You know, when grass is dying, every lie
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: is easy because you can get the ball out of there.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: The British Open, even though they have the fescue, it
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: seems like the courses were laid out easier because there
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: were no deep rough. Even the Bryce and Dschambele thing.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They got the ball out of that fescue every single time. Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the British Openings was weird this year. I I don't
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: know if I was a fan of that course, to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: be honest with you.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I did play Royal Birkdale like what once every nine years.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: It's part of the rotation something like that. I listen.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me, though, Vick. When I see those
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: courses and I see the way they're designed, I see
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the way they're laid out, and I see the color
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of the grass and the color of the greens and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: so on, and the way the bunkers are shaped. They
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: all kind of look the same to me. Now, I've
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: never played over there. I mean, I've been to England
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: on multiple occasions, but I've never played golf over there,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: so I don't know if there's any sort of you know, variation,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: but they all kind of look the same, and they
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: all seem to play the same.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Like you think, the ball just spits out and the rolls.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you can hit a shot, you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: up the middle of the fairway. You can be rolling
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to the front of the green, but it'll cut something
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and drop into a bunker and you're like, man, that's
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that kind of sucks because I should I should have
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a better reward for that shot, that kind of thing.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: So I don't, I don't. I don't know about the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: variety over there, but it all looks the same. So
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: if you're saying, hey, man, Burke Dale is weird, they're
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: all weird to me.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I mean all with Fox is your winner shoots a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: sixty eight. I thought cam Young was at least going
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to force of playoff. Cam Young shoots a sixty four
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on the final round, should have been sixty three. He
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: butchered eighteen. Right, just got really irresponsible there on eight team.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But that's what it came down to. I'm not very
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: familiar with Ryan Fox. Sam Burns had a chance to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: win it, but he can't seem to hold a lead.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Right Scotti Scheffler finishes three three back in minus seven.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: But I think the story of the weekend again is
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a guy who's not even on the PGA tour. Guy
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: was on the live tour, guy was on the YouTube tour.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Bryce and Deshambo who shoots minus four seventy two final
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: round but was penalized two strokes on. Was it Friday Friday,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And what he did Friday was tamped down some of
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the fescue as he hit the ball wayward. He goes
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: into the fescue to see his shot, and he's looking
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: at his shot, he steps on some of the lettuce
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: behind the ball, and the RNA rules Committee determined that
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: he helped his lie.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: It's not it wasn't let us make it was pretty.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: You know, it's waist high grass or high high Where
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: is he.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Supposed to Okay, not to defend Bryson to shambo, because
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I know he does what what's he supposed to do?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Okay? Obviously I talked about this a great length with
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: guys over the weekend in my tournament. And the way
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that some people look at it is he's improving his
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: lie because what you should do when you have your
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: ball there, you need to pretend you have a three
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: foot bucket around the ball and you can't touch any
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: of that, so you can't walk on the grass behind
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: your ball, because then you're improving your swing line and
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the ball. I listen to me, here's the way I
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: look at it. Do I think he did it on
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: purpose getting behind his ball? Yeah? I think he probably
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: did because It's something that I think that I would do.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Guy, was every golfer do that? Though not every golfer
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: has the camera on him for every shot? That is
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: how many golfers in that British Open field did the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: exact same thing Bryson did, but they didn't have the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: cameras following them at the time.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: You might you might be about that I would get
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: behind my ball and I I mean he was stopping
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean he's he's definitely putting his
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: weight down on that grass to lay it down so
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: his swing is not effected as he's coming through and
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: trying to make contact with the ball. But this is
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: where we get into the gray area. Vicav Okay, what's
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: improving your lie? He didn't touch the ball and the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: ball is sitting exactly where it was, right. Is he
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: not allowed to go behind his ball and look at
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the line that he needs to take to bang it
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: out of the faescuo?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Mean?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Is he not allowed? Or if he does, does he
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: have to tread gently and just be a you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: a widow doe back down? I mean, I don't know.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: This is where the interpretation is.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Like stupid and the reason I think it's stupid. It's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: because it's so subjective, and golf is a sport that
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to be honest with yourself and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you have to turn yourself in on any of these occasions.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And if the golfer himself doesn't feel he did anything wrong,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the problem is. I said Jesse,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Rory McElroy's you know.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: His holder than now crap too well, saying you know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I'm a big Rory guy.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: But hearing him say that, I'm I'm losing touch with Rory.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sort of losing favor with him because he seems,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you know, play better golf yourself. You got your butt kicked.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't see you anywhere on the leaderboard. Where was Rory?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Where did he finish? He didn't finish ahead of Bryson Deshamba.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He had a bad open. He's way back there.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And Rory always feels the need to rip on Bryson.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: It's a great rivalry though, and it goes back to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: remember when they went face to face head to head
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: at the Masters in the final round yep and Rory
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: outlasts Bryson and they didn't talk the entire round. And
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: here they are now at the British Open, and somebody
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: asks Rory about Bryson de Shambeau and the stomping of
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the fescue, and he let him have it. Let me
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: know when you have it there, Jesse, I just want
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to say, how many of you when you play golf?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask you first and foremost, how many of
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you when you're in the deep stuff, don't sit around
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: there and just start whacking away at weeds as if
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you have a personal weed eater, just to give you
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a better life.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: One thousand and if that's listen, if that's illegal, then
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: dock me two strokes. But if you don't think that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna practice my swing and maybe take a couple
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: of rips at some weeds, you're wrong about that here,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: because why because that's that's what humans do.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Golf is too hard to begin with. Golf's too hard
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to hit the ball to begin with. Now you want
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: to you want me to hit the ball out of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: this waist high grass and not pull out my weed eater?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Of course I'm gonna step on a
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on a branch behind me.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Listen if I of course, of course I'm gonna move
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: stuff out of the way if you don't think I'm
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: gonna walk backwards from my ball and put some weight
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: on some grass or some weeds. And you know where
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I played this weekend, and there's plenty if you miss
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the fair ways everywhere, Yeah, and there's plenty of like
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: there's those the dry patches of dirt. But your ball's
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: up against a clump, you know what I mean, Like
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a clump kind of sitting by itself, like a CNM
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and E right, and you're like, damn, well, you can't
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: move the ball, you can't maneuver the ball, and and
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: all that sort of thing. But I can walk backwards
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and say, all right, where's that pin again? And what
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I want to hit it? Let me try to hit
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the left side and let it filter down. I mean,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: everybody does that. And if you'd say you don't do it,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: you're full of crap.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I like?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Now, listen, I don't go stomping around, you know, and
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: waist high grass to lay it down like a bear's
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: laid there. I don't do that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm in the deep stuff. I will take not
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: one or two practice swings, I might take thirty five.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Those guys, those guys with with what they called it
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: a scythe you know what they call it? Yes, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: they like.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: My favorite thing to do too, is if you're playing,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Oh the way.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: What's what's the sharpest club? Is sixty degree? Like, what
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: has the most edge on it? What would get the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: most like because like a driver is no good. It's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: just two round and two.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Potter if you want sharp. But if if I find
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: somebody's ball that I'm playing with and we're just having
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: a good time and I'm in the weeds, I don't
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: mind picking up the ball, identifying it and give him
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a nice comfortable lie.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: You know who doesn't do that? I do the same
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: one friend to another, I do the same. Hey, dude,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I found your balls. This your ball? Yeah, look at
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: you got a great lie? Dude. I do that all
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Listen, if you're talking about money, you're talking about serious competitions.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I get it. If you're talking about hanging out with
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: your boys, now I know that there's a huge difference
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: between you and I and rolling hills. Well that's interesting. Thanks, Jesse.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: What was that? God you are you aren't app today's
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: a bad day. Yes, he's a mess. It's there's one
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: thing about you and I rolling Hills versus the Open
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Championship at Royal Birkdale. But I wouldn't penalize him, That's me.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Seawn Wrights. Rory wasn't talking about the rule though, He's
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: talking about Bryson threatening to withdraw, which got a little crazy.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: You know, Bryson, you may not like the rule, you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: may not like the way they called you on it,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: but threatening to withdraw is pretty Here is Rory McElroy,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and again this is my favorite part of the British Open.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It wasn't the tournament. It was these two going at it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: He can't play it, Vic because it's gonna echo and
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know what he's doing, all.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Right, So we got somebody running controls that doesn't know
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: what they're doing.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Is that? What's I mean?
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Jesse?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: You used to know what you're doing? Right? What happened
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: to you? You're traveling with the Rockies, you're traveling with
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the Broncos, you're traveling with the Rapids. You're like all
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: over the globe, you're going to world. You don't know
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: what you're doing anymore? Do you?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: From zero nine four to four react to this one?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Most you guys are hacks ha ha, this is a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: major and there are rules. It's part of a British
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Open junior golf college not allowed. Bryce in is an
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: aff as an ass. His true self came out in
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: that ruling. He's fake with fake social media. No one
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: likes him, all right, if that's a case. Tiger Woods
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: arguably the best, if not one of the greatest, of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: all time. He also flirted with rules on many occasions.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Remember moving the rock? Remember the things he did? Are
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you going to say the same thing about Tiger Woods
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: in his heyday?
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when Deshamble though, and some people just
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: don't like him period, like b O nine four to four.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the time when he saw his ball
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was there, when he saw he wanted to move his
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: ball because he saw an ant like a fire ant.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do remember.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And he said it's resting on a fire ant high
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: like there's bro it's one ant. Right. But he's trying,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's trying to plead his case and
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: get the best possible failuble, you know, ruling and lie
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing. I don't blame him
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: for trying. And again, you show me a rule where
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: if you're out there in that stuff. You can't walk
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: behind your ball and look at where you're supposed to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: hit it. Now, whether you walk hard or do you
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: have to tread lightly, or you show me the rule
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: that you cannot do that. Do I think he was
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: improving the angle for his his swing? Absolutely? Do I
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: think he was doing a little elephant stopping around back there? Absolutely?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I do. Are you telling me that there's a rule
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: that says he can't do that? Find it? Because this
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: is more interpretation than it is an actual rule. I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Breaking the rule is one thing, but then threatening not
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: to show up the next day, all you're hurting is yourself.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, if he doesn't show up the next day
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: for whatever reasons, you're mad with the RNA. The only
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: thing that would have made it more poetic is if
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a Bryson would have lost by a stroke or too
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and that two stroke penalty came into play. It never
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: got that close, as Ryan Fox holds off the field
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and wins it. When we come back, guys, the Nuggets
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: can rest a little easier. Nikola Jokicic, Well, I'd have
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to worry about getting his legs taken out every time
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets face Oklahoma City. More on that next.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I know we moved on from the British Open. Brett came,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: by the way, he's out today. Vic. I know this
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: is typically your spot, but what's with Scheffler hitting it
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: into a hospitality tent bathroom and getting.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: A free drop. He's yelling at people saying, don't find
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the ball. Don't find the ball because I get a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: free drop. Dude, these tournaments because all this hospitality stuff
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: surrounds the course. If you hit it there, it's like
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: it's a mulligan.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ridiculous, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, I mean he shanked
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and left into the hospitality tent and ball's gone and
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: then he gets a free drop. It's just anyway, it's crazy.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: You want to talk to some nuggets hoops because I'm
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: sitting here. It's one last thing.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: One leasy on this because John writes in on the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: text line, Hey read a rule book. Sometimes boys about
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: stomping the grass. It's not allowed according to rule eight
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: point one. We know what the rules are, John. I
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: think we've established we know what the rules are. We
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: just said how many times when you're playing with your
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: boys you go in there with your club like a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: weed whacker everybody doesn't. We understand what a rule is.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: We get it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Rules, guy, chill out. When you stand in line at
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the bathroom, you stand with your shoulders back. Calm down,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: We get it. It's a rule. Yeah, everybody breaks it
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: when they're playing recreational golf.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: That's all. Calm go on. And he's he's got to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: be able to look at his life. It's it's it
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You wanted to talk some nuggets. But I'm
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: sitting here at seven forty five now am on July twentieth,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm just kind of sitting here around with my
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: teeth and my mouth and there's really nothing going on
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: except that Peyton Watson is at the World Cup finale
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: and we're sitting here trying to figure out is he
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: going to get an offer? Is he not going to
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: get an offer? Is he gonna take the I mean what,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: there's no update on anything going on right now whatsoever?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: All right, I have a prediction on what's going to
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: happen with the nuggets here, And before I get to that,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you Mark Moser, and you
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: can chime in as well, Jesse, Can you guys identify
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: for me the winner of the twenty twenty six Las
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Vegas Summer League tournament. Who won the Vegas Summer.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: League It was about uh.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I heard it on a sports update.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Not that I would expect you to know, right, but
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Boo Boozer's team did not win. Correct, Memphis lost chef State,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Golden State and that Luck Lennenborg, the kid from Michigan
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: who looked really good. So Golden State is your twenty
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: twenty six Vegas Summer League champion.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: They get trophies, they get rings, they get all the stuff.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: The Nuggets, by the way, won their last game yesterday.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: They finished three and two. There are three players from
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets Summer League team who will most likely see
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: time on the varsity squad, and the two second round
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: draft picks. I thought, Bryce Hopkins looks good. He really
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: looks good. I thought the first the first of those
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: picks looked especially Brazil. He had flashes of brilliance. He
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: had thirty two points in the second game that he played,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, of all those guys, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: think Brazil might have a chance to do some things
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: during the season. kJ Simpson's a two way guard who
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: will sign a two way contract with the Nuggets. So
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: those three players will find their way to the court
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: at some point. The rest of them, I'm not so sure.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: The rest of them, I'm not I'm not sure anybody.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Well, how many guys really ever, how many guys ever
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: really got I'm out of that and become real players
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: outside the top picks who get the playing time when
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: they're rookies and so on. But there aren't too many
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: diamonds in the rough man. The amount of scouting, in
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the amount of information, knowledge and analysis in today's world
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: is so good that it's hard to find a diamond
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: in the rough. They just don't really exist. And so
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with what you're saying. I mean, I
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: look at all these names, and a lot of these
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: guys I don't even know who they are. You're right,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: we won't see him with the parent club.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Ever, the Nuggets have two roster spots to fill currently,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and one of them, you assume is going to go
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to Payne Watson. The other we shall see. I still
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: believe the Nuggets need another guard. I do believe they're
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: looking for another guard, a ball handler of some sort
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: who can help out when Jamal Murray's not on the court.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Right now, Tias Jones is a backup point guard. After that,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: it's kJ Simpson number three. I think they need up there.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a smaller player. It can
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: be a bigger player, but someone who can bring the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: rock up. I do believe that's necessary what they can do.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Just to express again, you can go into the season
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: over the tax. You have to be below the tax
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: when the season ends, so they can take this roster,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: including Peyton Watson. Let's say they signed Peyton Watson, do
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a contract they're both happy with above twenty million. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what's unless he gets signed
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: by somebody else, and to sign a trade you may
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: have to settle for whatever. We Let's say they're beyond
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the tax. You can go into the season at that number,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: as long as you carve it down by the trade deadline,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: so they may.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Or or if you feel like you've got yourself a
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: team that can win it all, you just you keep
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: tax and you just go for it right. Sure, and
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: then you've got to pay the big money.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Sure. I mean it's a risk, it's a gamble, and
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: it's one that may take. But we'll see what they do.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I do believe the Nuggets need more ball handling, though,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and they have to address that at some point.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, but but but your options right now are pretty limited, vic,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're your options seem pretty limited. I'm looking
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: at some of the names that are still out there.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: They seem it seems pretty limited. You know, you've already
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: pooh poohed de Rozan. Is he gonna go from twenty
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: five million down to? Yeah? Nothing? I mean, these kinds
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: of things aren't aren't really gonna happen.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Any any chance the Nuggets signed the margin Rosen No,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: there's a chance, but they'd have to unload salary. There's
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: always a chance. I don't think the margin. Rozan is
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: gonna sign the vet minimum.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: That's my point is that he he was making over
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: twenty four million. Is he going to take a vetmanimum? No.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna probably take the career. I think
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: he I don't know where he is financially, but it
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: would seem to me that he would try to get
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: as much as he can before he's done. That's what
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: it would say.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And I keep hearing about these sign of trades, like
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: you know at that's interested in the sign and trade
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: for Peyton Watson. We've heard Milwaukee, the Clippers. Here's the deal.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn's got plenty of cash that they can spend. Here's
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the deal with the sign and trade. Denver's not going
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: to do a sign and trade for other players because
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: they would put them right back to the problem that
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: exists right up over the repeater tax. They would do
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a sign and trade for assets, for draft picks, for
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: trade exception.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: But then, but then, what you're saying is that if
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: you do that, Vic, then you're saying, Okay, we're gonna
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: we have to take a step back to take a
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: step forward. So that's an absolute fact, right, Yes, Because
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: if you can get a Peyton Watson in at a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: reasonable price and things go well this season, then you
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: can still go for it, because assuming health or hoping
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: for health, then you still have a shot to do something.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, And who knows, they may be looking at other
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: teams with ball handlers and saying, maybe you can do
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: is sign and trade there. I don't know. I do
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: know this. Other teams are trying to get the hell
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: out of the tax as fast as possible. We've already
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: seen it, including last year's champion. Not the most recent
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: year before the OKC thunder who have been slowly and
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: quietly unloading starters and unloading big salaries, and they did
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: so over the weekend. Lou Dort, who I saw. I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: saw this coming as soon as Case and Wallace started developing,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: as soon as Case and Wallace became a key figure
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: on that team. Bye Bye, lou Dort, He's gone. They
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: trade lou Dort and his big salary to Atlanta for
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: three second round draft picks.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Now, why do they do that? They don't necessarily want
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to part with lou Dort. He brings a toughness, of
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: brashness of physicality that the Nuggets saw first hand. Okay,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: se did that because they want to avoid the luxury
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: tax the end, like every team in the.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Like Boston did, like every team after they won the championship,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: like every team is doing. Because you have to pay
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: a price in order to get to a level unless
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: you have a Jalen Bronson who takes less but is
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: gonna get more on the back end, and their time
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: will come too. But any team that gets really to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: that level, Vick, you've got to flirt with the tax
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: or be in the tax. And then if you're satisfied
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: with a championship, and you realize you're gonna have to
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: pay one hundred and seventy seven million dollars just in
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: tax alone. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a hell of a roll of
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the dice with more money than any of us can
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: even possibly comprehend.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: But it also infuriates me when I hear people say,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: why don't you know, why doesn't every team just pay
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the tax? You have the money, why don't you pay
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the tax? Well, take a look around the league. Take
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: a look around the league. The well run teams don't
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: do that because they know the ratifications of going into
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: that apron and what it does to your franchise. They
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: don't pay the tax. And it's a self and post
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: rule that they threw in there. And in a roundabout way,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: it protects those teams, it protects the owners in.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: A roundabout way. Yeah, but it also allows if you've
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: got an opportunity to go for it and you've got
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: a team that can win, it allows you to overspend
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: to try to make it happen. But if you don't
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: get the ultimate prize, vic it's very punishing. Well in fact,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: there's no there's nothing else like it in sports. Not
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: right now, but there's there's nothing like the NBA, CBA, aprons, taxes, repeaters,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: all these things that are built in. And I know
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: why they did it. They want to maintain uh, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: parody across the league the best they possibly can. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I get that, I understand that, but it makes it
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: so difficult to maintain a high level team.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I could tell you Cleveland paid the tax. Didn't
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: help them. They sucked, They fell apart. Remember when the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns were way over the t Yep, Kevin Durant, Yep.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: That didn't work.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: What do they do? What are they doing Phoenix?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: That didn't work?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: What did ISHBA do in Phoenix? What do they do?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: They blew it up.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: They blew it up, exactly right, They blew it up.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: And if it's tough to tell fans, hey, listen, we
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: kind of got to blow this up right now to
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: get back to where we need to be in order
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: to really be, you know, a contender again, because fans
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear that. When you're in that window
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: and you've got the best player on the planet, in
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: my opinion, you've got another All Star. Now you don't
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: want to take a step backwards to take a step forward.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: You want to keep going forward. I get that, I do,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: but it becomes a fool's rid at some point for
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: ownership or for just the franchise period, when you're you're
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: being just beaten down at taxed to death and you're
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: not going to get any reward for it.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I will ask the same question I've been asking for
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Let's say you do sign Peyton
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Watson to a contract over twenty million, and now you're
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: in the repeater tax, you're in the apron and you're
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: paying a ridiculous amount of money. Do you believe that
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: roster he's good enough to win a championship guaranteed? No
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: or at least content for EACHA.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I contend yeah, but vic I personally can't
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: get over the health factor. I can't carry in it
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: because Aaron Gordon is a huge component of that and
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the amount of time he's missed in the last couple
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: of years. I can't. I can't put a guarantee on it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Obviously he can't put a guarantee on his own body.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: But to me, it makes me incredibly nervous. So when
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I say no, it's because I don't know if they
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: can be healthy. If they can be healthy, then yes,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I think that team can contend. At the same time,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you'll also need guys off that bench that contribute, that
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: you can trust, that you can you can throw into
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: situations and give them actual playing time. And I don't
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: know that they have those guys yet either. I think
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: that one or two will emerge. I guess we'll find out,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: but right now I wouldn't bet my money on it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Well, they're hoping Trevin Brazil can give some quality minutes.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: If Aaron Gordon can't play, he's got to play that
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: dunker spot. That means he's gonna have to mature in
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: a hurry. It is nice, though, now that Okay sees
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: unloaded lou Dort, it is nice that Jokers do not
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: have to worry about his knees every time they play Oka.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: See remember the fake lou Dort running in the players.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: He would do it all the time. One of the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: dirtiest players in the league. I don't care where he plays,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: He'll do the same thing in Atlanta, dirty player. The
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: only people that didn't recognize that are the people of
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: They recognize that. They just didn't want to acknowledge it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: They know, I mean, they know what they see. Hell,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: they look at the game film every single day. They
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: know what they're looking at. They know exactly what they're
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: looking at.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: When we come back. You heard this term football wins,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and we're not talking about the NFL. We're talking about soccer.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Next we are