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The Valley’s Cracks and Real Housewives’ Futures · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Woo, woo. Hannah McDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I am very excited
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  Speaker 1: for a first time Juicy Scooper, but I was a
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  Speaker 1: guest on her show and we just hit it off.
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  Speaker 1: Lori Alterman, hit podcast fan or fanatic. She is an
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  Speaker 1: entertainment reporter. Very, very funny. Does a lot of comedic
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  Speaker 1: takes on reality TV and whatnot, also does stuff for
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  Speaker 1: Us Weekly. Welcome. Thank you. I'm so excited you're in
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  Speaker 1: LA and you could make this fun show in person.
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  Speaker 4: Heather, there's nowhere I'd rather be except for next to
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Cook in a bed.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about it. Yeah, let's talk. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: right into it. Get into it. I asked you, I said,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to, we'll just do some hot takes,
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  Speaker 1: some unpopular opinions, which you're not afraid to say. I
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  Speaker 1: love it. In this world of pop culture and Bravo
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  Speaker 1: related things. Obviously, Summer House, we've talked a lot about.
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  Speaker 5: And you.
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  Speaker 1: Think that Kyle Cook is extremely hot. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: hung out with him.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I know at BravoCon where we missed each other,
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  Speaker 4: but I also hung out with him, but not the
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  Speaker 4: way you did.
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  Speaker 1: You had a real moment.
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  Speaker 4: You almost slept with him by watching his DJ set.
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  Speaker 4: And unlike Meredith Marks, he actually knows how to DJ.
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  Speaker 1: And he's talented. He's totally talented. We, after my, I
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  Speaker 1: did a live show at the MGM and then we
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  Speaker 1: went to the nightclub and And it had a whole
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  Speaker 1: setup that they were, the casino and the people in
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  Speaker 1: Vegas were my friend Andrew. It's called VIP, Heather. Andrew
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  Speaker 1: leaned into it. Yes, this guy Andrew was wonderful to
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  Speaker 1: help set up. So we go with my friends and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Brady, Julie, who were part of the show.
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  Speaker 1: And he is the DJ. And I loved his DJ
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  Speaker 1: set because... He does all the mixing, but it's also
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  Speaker 1: all the songs you love. So it just flowed. And
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  Speaker 1: then I got to say hi to him and he
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  Speaker 1: was very lovely. And then later on, a couple weeks
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  Speaker 1: later or a month later, out of the blue, he
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  Speaker 1: DM'd me and he just said, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: thank you for all the nice and supportive things you've
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  Speaker 1: said about my DJing. And I'm like, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I've said, I'm like, I'm so glad he got so
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  Speaker 1: much shit. And all these girls are like, ew, he's
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  Speaker 1: becoming a DJ.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God.
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  Speaker 1: What a thirst trap. And I'm like, thank God he
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  Speaker 1: did it. Good for him. He's good at it. He
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  Speaker 1: likes it. It's a great thing to do. Now all
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  Speaker 1: these other people realize, even Erika Jayne, I loved her
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  Speaker 1: honesty when she's like, he's like, how do you like
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  Speaker 1: being DJ pretty bad? She's like, I love it. I
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  Speaker 1: play other people's songs. I just go like this, move
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  Speaker 1: a couple fingers. I don't need a bunch of dancers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need 12 outfits. Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Can we take a minute for that spot-on imitation?
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say imitation. I think you just channeled
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  Speaker 1: Daft.ie But I love that she's doing it, and she's right.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good, fun thing to do. Why not? Unless
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  Speaker 1: you're Meredith Marks, who I think sucks. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: ain't the mama deaf in one ear? I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: quite interesting of an occupation. I don't like Meredith Marks. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think, okay, well, that's okay that you don't like her.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, of course, a DJing thing can, I
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  Speaker 1: would think, could easily be faked. It could. You put
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  Speaker 1: the whole 90 set. But Kyle Cook doesn't fake it.
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  Speaker 1: You put the whole 90 set together. You put in
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  Speaker 1: the cassette tape. You push it in. Do they still
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  Speaker 1: spin records, Heather? Is that what they like? I think
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  Speaker 1: they have their thing set up. And what they do
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  Speaker 1: in the moment is like, rise a beat here, lower
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  Speaker 1: something here. Look at you, rise a beat. And that's
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  Speaker 1: where you're really doing it. But also, prior to the gig, they...
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  Speaker 1: just like a comedian or musician, is supposed to have
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  Speaker 1: put their set together. So we're going to start on
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  Speaker 1: this song. We're going to go to this one. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying if you are just the face of something,
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  Speaker 1: why couldn't you hire somebody that could do it, put
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  Speaker 1: it all together for you, and then act like you're
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  Speaker 1: doing this throughout the 90-minute set when it's really just,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't know. Maybe she really did take the
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  Speaker 1: DJing class. We don't know. So you're going to tell
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  Speaker 1: me she's an expert in caviar. She's an expert in
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  Speaker 1: bath bombs. She's an expert in LL Cool J. I
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  Speaker 1: don't buy it.
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  Speaker 4: Why am I not a fan of her? Because I
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  Speaker 4: find her personality annoying. I don't think she takes, I
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  Speaker 4: hate this word, it's ever used, accountability. I think she's
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  Speaker 4: a whiner. I think she's boring. And if she's listening,
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  Speaker 4: I stand by it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like her. So you wouldn't care if she
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  Speaker 1: didn't come back to Salt Lake? I actually got some
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  Speaker 1: info that she wasn't, but I know they're filming now
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  Speaker 1: and she's still there. Yeah, I've seen the photos. Where
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  Speaker 1: are they? Well, they were in San Francisco doing some stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But no, they are filming and she is part of
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  Speaker 1: the cast. And you know what?
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  Speaker 4: I don't get much opportunity to work with casting on
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  Speaker 4: these shows.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I have a strong opinion on all of them.
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  Speaker 4: And I think Meredith Marks brings nothing to the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: I totally disagree. Go ahead. I think she's very fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch. What? I just like her weird kind of
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  Speaker 1: voice where she's like, you brutalized my family. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of like it. I think she's really pretty. She is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by her disease that makes her boobs grow enormous.
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  Speaker 1: And she has to get a different boob job every year.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's sad, but crazy. I think it's annoying
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  Speaker 1: and weird. It's funny because I love vanilla ice cream,
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  Speaker 1: and let's say you don't. You would have a strong case.
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying the thing that you find fascinating about Meredith makes.
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  Speaker 1: Me break out in hives. Who else do you love
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  Speaker 1: on there? I mean, I'm pretty entertained by the whole cast.
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  Speaker 1: I am definitely someone that I'm very careful about saying...
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  Speaker 1: I don't want this person back or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: Because I do think it's a job and I think
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  Speaker 1: they give so much of themselves and they are so replaceable.
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  Speaker 1: So I never want to have a clip or something
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  Speaker 1: where I'm like, get rid of so-and-so, you know? If
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  Speaker 1: I'm still watching the show, then the producers are doing
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  Speaker 1: something right. Even if you hate someone, it's better that
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  Speaker 1: you hate someone than to be indifferent when we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a reality show. So if you're looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: it and you're not falling asleep through it, then I
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  Speaker 1: think they're doing their job. And some of these franchises
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  Speaker 1: I really do fall asleep in. And that's not one
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  Speaker 1: of them. I do not fall asleep in that one.
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  Speaker 1: Salt Lake is one of my favorite franchises. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think I've said it before. I think Bronwyn. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I love her. Oh, I love her. I think Bronwyn
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  Speaker 1: should be the poster child of a girl who married
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  Speaker 1: for money, was stuck with an asshole. And found her
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  Speaker 1: way out through the help of Andy Cohen reaching his
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  Speaker 1: hand out and lifting her up. And now she's single
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  Speaker 1: and screwing a 32-year-old model. Oh, he's hot. And going
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  Speaker 1: to the Met Ball. She still has her money. She's famous.
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  Speaker 1: Her skin looks better. It does.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny how the more famous you get, the better
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  Speaker 4: the skin. I'm hoping for those days. Bronwyn is my
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  Speaker 4: favorite housewife.
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  Speaker 1: You just hit something that is so emotional for me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with her marrying the awful Todd,
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  Speaker 1: also known as the character. By the way, I think
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  Speaker 1: she loved him. I do. I mean, I see the
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  Speaker 1: mean man from the... The cherry pick. No, from the
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  Speaker 1: Up movie. Remember Up? That's so Todd. It's so Todd.
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  Speaker 1: And it was one thing... You know, maybe you'd feel
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  Speaker 1: bad for him if he was kind of an ugly
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  Speaker 1: guy that married a young girl and helped raise her
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  Speaker 1: daughter and then she left him or whatever. That wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the case. He was mean. She knew he was mean.
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  Speaker 1: She took the show to show the world, I'm married
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  Speaker 1: to a mean husband that eats the cherry.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think this was intentional, calculated, even more reason
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  Speaker 4: I love Ron with Newport?
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  Speaker 1: They always say, this is what I always think. When
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  Speaker 1: an inevitable divorce happens because they put themselves on a
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  Speaker 1: reality show, the woman that agrees to the reality show
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  Speaker 1: that's in the shitty marriage, she has two trains of thought. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And they're both. One, I want him to see how
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  Speaker 1: mean he is. I want him to watch it back
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  Speaker 1: and see how mean he is. And then he'll get
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  Speaker 1: nicer and we can stay married. I think that's their
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  Speaker 1: first thought.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll be able to be famous and have a
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  Speaker 1: career of my own. But he'll see to be nicer
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  Speaker 1: to me. He'll appreciate me because I'm making money. He'll
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  Speaker 1: see that everyone else loves me. He should love me too.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they hope happens. Fascinating. What does happen is this.
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  Speaker 1: He's mean on camera. They edit it. This former CEO
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  Speaker 1: guy that, you know, has been walking around as a
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  Speaker 1: straight white male everything handed to him never has been
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  Speaker 1: afraid doesn't give a shit what people think he opens
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  Speaker 1: his phone and realizes he has no chin he never
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  Speaker 1: knew he had no chin That's impossible, Heather McDonald. How
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  Speaker 1: do you not know you don't have a chin? They
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  Speaker 1: don't know until they get on this show with their
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  Speaker 1: thirsty wife.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: They read all the comments. Ah. Now they become meaner
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  Speaker 1: to her. I guess you read my comment. Then they
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  Speaker 1: become meaner to their wife because they're even more resentful
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  Speaker 1: that she did this. And she's reading all the comments.
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  Speaker 1: He's so mean.
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  Speaker 4: And they're not saying anything about her looks other than
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  Speaker 4: they're perfect.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you're so great. What are you doing? And then
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  Speaker 1: they break up. But their initial thought is to be
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  Speaker 1: successful and stay married. I think maybe one or two
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  Speaker 1: go on going, oh, I'm going to get divorced in
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  Speaker 1: year two. But I think their initial thought is, Or, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that he'll get better, he'll get nicer, because that's why
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  Speaker 1: they've stayed that long. But really what it does is
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  Speaker 1: crack it open, and that's why there's so many divorces. Heather,
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  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: If you were to be on The Housewives, we've discussed
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  Speaker 4: this before, and I've been approached what I ever think about,
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  Speaker 4: and I would never think about it, but you got
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  Speaker 4: me thinking about it now. I would like to expose
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  Speaker 4: my husband. for the mumbler he is. He's got marbles
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  Speaker 4: in his mouth. So if he sees himself on a
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  Speaker 4: reality show going, and then I would say, see, see,
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  Speaker 4: and the fans would run.
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  Speaker 1: Also, if I'm, if I'm being honest, his breathing's heavy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: What would you want to expose about Peter? Um, the
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  Speaker 1: enormously loud sneezes. Oh, the sneezes are so loud. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, people go, why are you, like, so jumpy?
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  Speaker 1: It's the sneezes. They're so out of nowhere. And you
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  Speaker 1: know what? They can be controlled. Because I went to
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  Speaker 1: the Masters.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And there's Peters everywhere there. There's Peters right and left.
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  Speaker 1: They all look the same. From a distance, I thought
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  Speaker 1: everyone was my husband, okay? I hope you didn't act
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  Speaker 1: on that, Heather. No, I did not. He was with me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: There's allergies. We're at the Masters. It's allergy season. The
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  Speaker 1: guys are putting the ball and hitting the ball. Everyone's quiet.
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  Speaker 1: How is there not one 55-plus dad not doing one
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  Speaker 1: of those epic sneezes? Because you can control it. They
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  Speaker 1: can control it. It's performative. It's to make everyone in
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  Speaker 1: the house be annoyed with them. And they're still 13-year-old boys,
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  Speaker 1: and they get off on it. So they sneeze loud.
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  Speaker 1: They do it in threes.
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  Speaker 4: Would you rather be with a man who has the
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  Speaker 4: volcanic sneeze or, you know, I'm going to say he
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  Speaker 4: does a.
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  Speaker 1: You have to pick one. Oh, my God. Because how
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  Speaker 1: do you bang a guy who's like, I got a sneeze?
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'd go for a big sneeze. Aren't you
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  Speaker 1: a lucky lady? He also does this other thing that
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  Speaker 1: started about a year ago. He goes through phases, much
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  Speaker 1: like a toddler. Yeah. And it's like, again... Like this
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  Speaker 1: big yawn. Oh, that's a yawn? It's a big yawn.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just because he's downstairs. Like in falsetto? It's
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  Speaker 1: like he's downstairs and nobody's there with him. So it's
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  Speaker 1: like his like call to just remind me that he's there.
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  Speaker 1: Do you when.
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  Speaker 4: not just your husband, but anybody, sneezes. Because I'm grossed
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  Speaker 4: out by everything.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I love sneezing. It is like a
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  Speaker 1: mini orgasm. I get it. Sneezing is very satisfying. I
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  Speaker 1: feel that way when I hear the little Netflix thing
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of each show. I feel it in my...
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  Speaker 1: Would you, per se, a man who.
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  Speaker 4: Sneezes and you don't like, it could be a woman too,
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  Speaker 4: you hear the sneeze, my automatic reaction should be, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm a girl from the South and the etiquette should
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  Speaker 4: be there, should be, God bless you, but you know
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  Speaker 4: what I do? Fake a sneeze right now.
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  Speaker 1: Achoo!
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  Speaker 5: Ew!
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  Speaker 1: You're disgusting. I say, ew. Yeah. That's not nice. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not nice. But it's much like a sneeze, I
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  Speaker 1: can't control it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: As far as going on the show, First of all,
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  Speaker 1: they'll never ask me. No, they're not asking you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: way too inside baseball. I've never wanted to be on
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  Speaker 1: the show. I've always been someone that's fascinated, liked it,
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  Speaker 1: liked the women outside of the show, liked interviewing them.
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  Speaker 1: The thing I would do is a type of show
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  Speaker 1: with other funny women, whether they're reality stars or comedians.
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  Speaker 1: We're right here. And we go on trips together. That
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  Speaker 1: are paid for. That are paid for and maybe some
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  Speaker 1: trauma happens. Maybe they don't. I don't really care. I
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  Speaker 1: would rather not exploit my children or fuck up my
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  Speaker 1: marriage at this point. Right. I understand jobs are hard
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  Speaker 1: to find. They are. I understand there's a thirsty bitch
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  Speaker 1: who's 45 that's already put her whole life out on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: And it comes a knocking. Are we pitching right now? No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame those people. No, but we're pitching right
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  Speaker 1: now if anyone's watching.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine Heather and I. I pushed for the Ultimate Girls
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  Speaker 1: Trip production-wise, all of it. Why I think that stuff
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  Speaker 1: works is... It's a win-win for everybody. Right. You're not
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  Speaker 1: tying up these girls for six months. You're not fucking
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  Speaker 1: up their marriages and exposing their kids. You get to
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  Speaker 1: go out of town with them. Even if the kids
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  Speaker 1: are over 18, they're not ready to have the whole
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  Speaker 1: world explore them maybe being annoyed with you because they
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  Speaker 1: forgot the cameras were there. Right. And then it's like
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  Speaker 1: your son's an asshole for life.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, do you not remember the scene? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I remember every scene, Heather. I'm an expert. Real Housewives
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  Speaker 1: of OC, Gina- Keno goes to the baseball game unannounced
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  Speaker 1: with Vicky.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And he's stressed. He was not having it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't blame him.
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  Speaker 1: I brought it up 20 times. It's why he never
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  Speaker 1: went professional. But it's also wrong for me to bring
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  Speaker 1: it up 20 times. But I can't help it. You
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  Speaker 1: can't help it. They did the show. They did. He's
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  Speaker 1: happily married, has a couple kids, is like a realtor
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  Speaker 1: in Florida. I'm sure he is great. Still great relationship
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  Speaker 1: with mom. Because every time I ask her, I say,
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  Speaker 1: I still think about that. I mean, I.
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  Speaker 6: Cringy.
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  Speaker 1: But again, my sons have been rude and disrespectful to me.
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  Speaker 1: We all have had a kid. But not on camera.
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  Speaker 1: But not on camera. And I wouldn't want that to
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  Speaker 1: haunt them. I think it could really affect them. Look
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: at Lynn Curtin's kids. Oh, well, what's left of them.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Too soon?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: She lost a couple fingers. But how many fingers do
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you really need, Heather, when you think about it? Think
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: about this. If I'm having a martini, right? Right. And
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I'm missing, I don't know, well, I would never miss
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: my ring finger, but it's really just this section. Do
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: we know how she lost her fingers? That's drug abuse.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: It's not funny. You know where you don't lose fingers from?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Too many martinis.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Unless, of course, you put your down and someone puts
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: one on top really hard.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm brittle. I have osteoporosis. Heather, can we repitch
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: this idea that it's a bunch of famous, a bunch
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: of fabulous, funny ladies... all in the world of reality,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and you put us, and you're not putting us in some, like,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: all-inclusive secrets bullshit, right? It doesn't matter. It matters to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: me where we stay, Heather. Well, I mean, obviously it's
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: going to have to be a set-up thing. Like a
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: fancy one. Where we have our house, we have activities,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: they split us up.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: a treat. With eight flavours to choose from, you can
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: choose the flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: filed against me. When your free will was about to
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: be taken from you, what would you.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Do if it was given back? Where did that need
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: come from where you thought that you had to succeed
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: in order to feel loved?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I need a home dad. What happens next? When I
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: came in, he started crying.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You remember in what I loved about, this movie did okay,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: but it was, I think Tina Fey was one of
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the writers. Amy Poehler, they go for like their wine weekend.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see it? So here's a hot take
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: on Lori Altman. I don't really watch many movies. Okay, well,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: they did like a weekend with all these funny women.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And they go to a Napa weekend. And there's just
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this part where they are kind of talking behind each
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: other's back, but it's all out of concern. Like Beverly
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Hills this season. That's why I give it some credit
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: because I do think that's real. It was real. You're like, okay,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: do you think something's going on with her? Like, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: don't know. Do you think their marriage is okay? That's
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: what would happen. Like if you're all together, you, if
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you noticed your friend of, you know, 20 years, you
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: get it together every three years, you have this sorority weekend,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. So, but, If we put this show together,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: there has to be more history, which sometimes I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the Ultimate Girls Trip, I think sometimes they don't know
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. I don't believe Portia's friends with Vicki Guffelson.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: That's where that loses the plot for me. Me too.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I think that you need to, if you're going to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: do it, you do it with... O.C. people that have
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a history with each other. Yes. And they go do something.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: You do it with New York and you bring them
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: back and you go do a week, but it's all,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: they know each other. Not just, we hung out once
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: at BravoCon and I DM'd you that funny reel once.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: No history is going to happen in this week. No
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: juicy thing is going to happen. But you need to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: be worried about me because you've known.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: By the way, I would love us to go away
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: and I'm spending so much money.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Like so much money that you're worried about me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Like I would love that look for me.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: And I would think as a friend, and I'm saying
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of money, I'm closing down stores that you
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: go on camera, you call whoever and you're like, things
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: are not normal and how much he's spending.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great look. Yeah, I mean, it
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: is what it is. But I do believe she, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: we're referring to. Let's get to Dorit real quick. Dorit,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: we are days away from not only her book launch, Unburdened.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: She's making fun of herself. She's calling the times DST,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Dorit Standard Time. All the four places that she's going to,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: which is like the first one is Barnes & Noble
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: over here in the Grove. It says four-ish. Then six-ish, ten-ish.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think being late is a cute quirk. No,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: not the kind of delete, derate, late. And that's my
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: name for her, delete, derate. It is not. It says
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I don't give an F about you.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: There's no way. Lateness is something that is so indicative
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of your personality. I believe there's three kinds of people
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: in this world. Okay. The person who's always on time
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and maybe a couple minutes early. Okay. Okay? That's pretty
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: much me, except for today. Okay? Because I forgot my
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: laptop and I have a Zoom to do after, so
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: we did have to turn around. One off. And you
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: felt horrible. And you didn't lie about it and said
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you were checking on your kids.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Then there's people that you will keep in your life forever. Mm-hmm.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: But you know they're always about 15 minutes late. Which
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is very late, but... And so you plan as you
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: get older. And if you're someone who's always on time,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: it takes you to about 50 years old where you
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: start to lie and tell them, come at 345 when
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: you really want them to come at 4. Do you
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: tell them that, though? I just started doing this with
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: my sister... And I've known her my whole life. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: just started being dishonest. You've known your sister your whole life.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I've known my sister my whole life. She's my best friend.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And I just started being dishonest with her about the time.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: But do you tell her that I'm doing this? No. Well,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you just did. Well, she'll listen. It's okay.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: But the last time we did something, she got there
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: before me. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: Was she annoyed?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Not at all. But I'm not overly mad about the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: 15 minutes. I just accepted it. Especially here in LA.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: 15 is almost early. I just accepted it. So there's that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And then there's the Doritos, which blatantly will be late
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: by an hour or two. To a plane, Heather. To
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a plane. How does that even work? Well, it's a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: private plane. So what? I know, even worse. And let
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: me tell you something. Imagine being married to that. Go ahead. Yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Because I'll say it. I think maybe I'm team P.K.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: You don't want to, but I think I'm team P.K.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think she was easy to be married to.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I think it was, we'll never know what really someone's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: marriage is.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, I know.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what happened. And how it can get
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: so ugly and then being public. What did you think
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: about him going on the podcast? Did you see? Yes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I bought it. I think he finally feels... He's obviously
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: released all the financials. He wants everyone to know that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: she's a shopaholic. All of that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: He blames himself, though. It's going to get ugly. I
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: don't understand how she makes $ 3. 5 million a year. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: don't understand how he, as the manager of Boy George,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: makes $ 3. 5 million a year. Obviously, he must have... a
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: bunch of businesses that make money, and then I think
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: she also probably makes a million a year off of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the live Amazons. Well, there is money to be had.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I heard there's a lot of money there.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: She's not making it from Beverly Bikini, I can tell
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: you that. Beverly Beach.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Whatever. Beverly Beach, you could call it. But I do
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: think she probably makes 1.2. There's no three in front
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of it. No, but she makes at least 1.2. I
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: feel like we know what these housewives make, I don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: know if anyone's ever gotten to the two point to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the two million range, but I know they've gotten to
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like one, two, one, four around there. And she has
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: been on for like 10 years.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: So I think she's probably at one, two to one, four.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So where the two other million comes from, it must
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: all be brand deals and that Amazon live. That's what
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: So she's an example of what you were saying. You know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I was saying, I don't care if Meredith Marks ever
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: comes back. I don't love to read, but.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I think she should stay on because she's good TV.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: She needs to stay on. Well, she absolutely needs to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: stay on. But nothing surprises me. No, no nothing surprises me. Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Nothing surprises me. How about this beef with Lala and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Maurice here? Are you up to date on that? I am.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Love this. Well, let's talk Valley. Let's talk Valley. Okay,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: so Lala's been my friend for many years. She and Amber,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: who was also married to their ex, shared exes. Oh,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you just had them on here. That was fascinating. That's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a great podcast. You haven't seen it. Check it. Thank you. And,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you know, now they're truly best friends. They have this
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: podcast together. Trauma bonding. They bring all the girls together,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you know, who are, you know, half siblings and everything.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And it's just fascinating. And so I love watching Lala.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I think she makes great reality TV. She's on The
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Valley full time. And last night, I haven't... It was, well,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the episode where... Danny and Nia. Danny is kidding.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Wait, time out for a second. This is my first Valley.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I'm not proud to say it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, you didn't watch the last two seasons? Never.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: And my hot takes, I would love your, after you
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: tell me about this, opinion because seeing it for the
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: first time, I have some strong opinions and I think
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I might be wrong.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But I know I don't like Danny. Well, let's hear
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: your opinions. You go ahead. Let's hear your raw opinions.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Well, listen, I'm a Vanderpump Rules fan. And I never liked,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: and I like her even less on The Valley. First
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: time I've watched The Valley is Kristen.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Don't like her. Okay.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: I think she's a whiner. I think she's annoying. I
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: think she's boring. And I think she's dramatic. The Kristen
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: that I remember from early Vanderpump is what I'm seeing
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: this season on The Valley.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Am I right? You are right. What's hard about this
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: situation with all of them is... You know, we really
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: are watching real lives. Yes. And the state that they're
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: in is kind of sad.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: The Valley is sad. L.A. is sad. Getting, being, having
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a postpartum baby, baby, body baby where you haven't lost
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the weight. Having. It's not the reality TV we want
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, having men that are. Where we can
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: edit it. We can edit it and see Danny being
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: absolutely awful to Nia. Now, were there scenes where they
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: went to the house in Santa Clarita and he set
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: up a Manny and Penny for her and took out
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: all the kids? That could have happened. They're not going
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to show us that. So I'm saying we are seeing
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: what they want us to see because they need the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: fans to get passionate. Last season, we were so angry
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: at Janet. Well, so tell me about that. So last season,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Janet was, appeared through the editing to be going after Danny,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: saying that he drinks a lot and that he had
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a drunken night. He touched somebody. Where he was handsy
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: with a Jasmine who we first met on The Bachelor
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: when she was looking for a man. She's since fallen
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: in love with a woman. Ain't she with a woman?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: She's fell in love with a woman who I don't
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think is featured in this photo. How many people turn
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: gay on The Bachelor? She ate the first. Well, Gabby fell,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and she's with Robbie Hoffman.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Who's hilarious. And that's fun. And there was one other
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: girl that was on it, and then she was bisexual
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: on The Bachelor in Paradise and got together with a girl,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what happened to her. So, Janet,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it last season.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I did see the scene where she's on a boat
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: and accusing people and being— Yeah.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: She, you know, again, she used the wrong words in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in this world of accusing what did she say she
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: didn't say like me too but she basically said like
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: assault you like assaulted someone or something like that a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: very strong word and that's daddy heather we don't know
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: we never saw it so what happened was he was
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: boozing and he made some sexual reference or or touched
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Jasmine's butt in a funny, drunk, I'm your friend manner.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: But also somehow it was good because Jasmine was like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it really was, A, it was uncomfortable, but also being
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a lesbian, having a fiance who's a woman, being a
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: girl who's in love with a woman. Gosh, that's confusing.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: It like diminished.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: It kind of diminishes like where a guy doesn't really
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: think that as a woman that you could be in
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: love with another woman. So there was that element that
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was demeaning. That's deep. And then also just being sloppy
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: and kind of touchy. We never saw it. It was
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: brought up because it was never filmed. It was brought
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: up as a storyline.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And people at home, I think, felt like it was
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: all right, you know, because he did reach out. He
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: profusely apologized. But then Janet, it appeared, was on the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: track of trying to always point out, like, you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: he came to meet them at, like, Lake Tahoe or
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: something or someplace.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: And.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: He was coming back from doing like a voiceover thing.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And so the car drops him off. They've been drinking
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: all day. And he goes in the pantry and does
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: like a shot of tequila. Yeah. And she saw it
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and she talked about it. And it was like, well,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to catch up. Or do you have
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a drinking issue? Does he? Well, what I think what
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: we're seeing now in this season is I think Nia
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: put her foot down. and was like, you're not drinking
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: on camera. You're not drinking on camera. It made you
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: look awful. You did these things. You look like a boozer. Like,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: we're not doing that. So if we're going to be
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: on the show, you're not drinking. And because he can't drink,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and these people actually aren't fun around to be, aren't
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: fun to be around unless you're drunk, in my opinion.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, which is why Schwartz is ordering drinks at
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the fucking roller coaster. Oh, God, do I love me
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: some Schwartz. I mean, people are, they have, they're drinking
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: because These people aren't great friends. They finally have some
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: fun away from their kid. They want to get drunk
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and Danny can't. So what does he do? He's irritated.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: He's on edge. He needs a drink to take the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: edge off. And he's nitpicking and being awful to Nia.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: To the point where he's telling her how she needs
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to do his wig for a drag thing. Which, by
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the way, we've already seen that in Vanderpump. Yeah. And
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: no one was an uglier woman than Tom Schwartz. No. Wait,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: let's back up, though.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: So, again, being a first-timer, I, watching this season, I
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: like Janet.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Is that just, is that sacrilegious? No, no, I like Janet.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I know her personally. I get it. I think, you know, whatever.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I like her more than Danny. Her going after Danny, again,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: we don't know if the producer said, hey, bring that
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: up again, if she chose to bring it up, and
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: if that's all they ever showed. But she was persecuted
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: by the fans last season. It seemed harsh. People were
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: asking for her head to be fired from the show,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So I think she's probably sitting back,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday nights or whenever this airs and is like
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: having a pretty nice time opening up her phone because
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: he is coming off horribly. They have four kids. Her
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: voice naturally sounds like she's on the verge of tears.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: She's always like, well, it's really hard because I'm trying
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to breastfeed and I just wanted one bite of a burrito,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: but Danny was hoping to get a massage and a
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: coffee and And he didn't realize that I had the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: blanket and he needed the blanket to swaddle her. So
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard when you have four kids. That is
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: spot on. And a newcomer to the show. She's gorgeous. Gorgeous.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Why did he capture her and take her out to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: some cult-like... I'm not from here. Santa Clarita. Santa Clarita
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is absolutely fine, okay? It's really far from everything. It's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: far from where they have to film. That's their job.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: But it's a whole nother community that, you know, is
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: outside of LA. So it has the better schools and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you can get a cute home.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: And, you know.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: She don't like it there, though. No, it's not as cool. And,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you know, if you have your group of 10 friends
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and you're all doing the mommy shit, it probably would
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: be fine. But all her friends are here and she
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: films a show and stuff. But they couldn't get that
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: kind of a house out where everyone else lives. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it's much safer and cleaner and all that. So is
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: it okay that I like Janet?
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I don't like Kristen.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I definitely don't like Danny. I like Lacey and Jessie. Right.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So then Jessie gets this new girl, Lacey. Yeah, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: like her. And she's coming off great. And, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: before when they all said, oh, she's pulling a— she wants
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a cease and desist— So that we can't talk about her.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I totally understand why. Because if she's not on the show,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want you doing confessionals. Keep my name out
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: of your mouth. Yeah, she doesn't want you doing confessionals
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: about her when she can't defend herself. And then also,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: she didn't want to be on the show because they
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: were newly dating and she didn't want to look thirsty. Now,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I also met her personally and she was lovely, but
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know her deal. And now I watch
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: her on the show and I'm like, I like her.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And I like when he told the little girl... To, like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: do a dance or something. And she said, yeah. And
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: she goes, don't make her do that. Like, she doesn't
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: want to do it. Don't ask her. And I don't think,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people at home realized, like, oh, wow.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: That is a good parenting thing I should probably take on.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And I don't think about that. I like them. Now,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd be sitting here today across
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: from you if my parents didn't make me perform for free. Okay?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Every time they had someone come over, my dad would
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: be like, little girls. Really? And Shannon and I would
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: come out and we would sing. She'd be late though, right?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Like 15 minutes. Yeah, maybe. But I would come out
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and I would have to sing for the cocktail party.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Sing for your supper. I would have to sing, you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the sun will come out tomorrow. I kind of love that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I have a great story like that. So it was
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: when Grease came out because I'm 100 years old. And
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I had just seen the movie and we were at
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: a holiday dinner party.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And my parents were different than yours, Heather. They
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: wanted me to shut the F up. Okay. And maybe
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here today if they hadn't said it
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: because now I need even more attention. Yeah. But I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: get up in front of the old grandparents and the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: aunts and uncles and the cousins.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I think there was neighbors there. And I start singing.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: And I was all of, I don't know, 10 years old.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Look at me.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Dee, lousy with virginity. And my dad pulls me.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I had a nightgown on. Would you ever have a
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: kid at a dinner with a nightgown on? Why was
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I wearing a nightgown? And pulls me by my nightgown
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: in the kitchen and says, you can't sing that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And I didn't know why. Well, I was going to do,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: we were going to try out for this, like, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: can see why he said that. But I had a
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: similar thing happen. So at my all-girl high school, we
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: were going to do a talent show.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: And you had to audition for it. And you remember
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that group that, like, I think Prince put together, those
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: three girls in their lingerie?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And it'd be like, I'm a sex shooter, shooting love
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: in your whole direction. So I listened to the tape.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I kept rewinding. I wrote down all the words.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: So that we could lip sync it on stage in
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: lingerie at the Catholic all-girl high school. And my dad
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: sees the yellow pad and reads the words.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Thank God.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And he's like, you cannot do this. And I was like, what?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: This is whatever they're called. I forgot the name of it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Six Snickies. Yeah. Something sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Something sick.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: They were hot.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And so it was my sister Shannon. Our friend Lucy
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: was in between our grade and me. So what did
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you end up doing? I had like three acts that
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I was going to do. There was going to be
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: a whole talent show that happened. And my senior year,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I did a like stand-up act. I did a singing thing.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I did like a group dance. And I did a sketch.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: And then. OK, Miss America. No, then they canceled. They
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: said the music teacher said, we're not going to have
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a talent show this year. And we're like, why? And
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: he goes, one person's in four of the seven bits. So, no,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: we're not doing it. If you can. Can you believe that?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I was so bummed. Like, that's all I wanted to do.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: If you could look at your set. if you can
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: call it that from that talent show, if you still
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: have it, would you stand by any of the materialists?
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And one was like, um, an impression, which now looking back,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it probably wasn't okay that I was going to do it,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: but it was Tina Turner. See, that's not fair though,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: because it was, You loved her. It was an, oh, mom.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: What's love got to do, got to do with it? Oh,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: it wasn't her, like, in pain and, like, kind of
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: getting hit? No, it was from, like, her hot video
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: that I watched. She's hot. Okay, let's talk more about,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you had a hot take on New Jersey. You wrote
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: me in text, and you said, Real Housewives of New Jersey,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, this is a shocking stance.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I know, people are shocked. Would you like to share?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Can I curse on the? Yes, of course. I don't
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: fuck with New Jersey.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like the state. Okay.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I don't like the. Where do you live? Philly. And
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: don't tell me it's New Jersey, but it's really close. Okay.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I don't like the fashion. I don't like their homes.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: I don't like their accent. I don't like the drama.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I do love me Marge.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Well, she's not coming back. I know. And I'm happy
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: because I think she's better than that. Okay.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: And my least favorite housewife of all time is Tracy Giudice.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Giudice. I don't find her absence of brain cells cute
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: or funny.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I think she's mean. I don't believe a word out
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: of her mouth. I'm team Melissa. But it's just not
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: a show that gets me.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: That I feel... I want to... Listen. I don't need
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: to watch.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: A reality series where the homes are more beautiful than mine.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: The people are more fancy, more fabulous.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: You don't need to. I don't.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I want to be transported into some shit that I
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: can't even relate to.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: So you want it to be better than your life
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: or worse than your life? Better. Oh, better. I like
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the drama. Don't get me wrong.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: But I don't need to be looking at their dated kitchens.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: And they're, you know, down the street, merry-go-round fashion. Will
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: anyone know what merry-go-round is?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Is that like a... I just don't. I want to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: be able to.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: That's why I still love Beverly Hills. Because at least
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing some nice things. And the things they fight
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: about in New Jersey, I think are stupid.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't feel it. I mean, I feel like
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it's a different thing. I feel like it's really relatable
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: It started with family and it still has family. And
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I think that the family, it's a different type of show.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: It's about family. And by the way, Heather, I don't
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: like family. And sure enough, when you work with your family,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it never goes well. The reason Beverly Hills to me is...
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Love me some Beverly Hills. It's still, if I, if
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: God came down and said, there's only one Bravo show
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that you can ever watch over and over and over again.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: All the rest are getting removed. I would choose Beverly Hills.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So I would choose the two.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I'd be nervous because there's others I love more right now.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: But long term?
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Long term to start from the beginning and go and around.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Because one is I am an L.A. girl. Yeah. I
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: love L.A. I love the weather.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: I love.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So visually... Gorgeous. You know, I never cared about, like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Dallas being a backdrop or even Atlanta being a backdrop
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: or New Jersey. No, like, those are just those backdrops
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: of the city don't do anything for me. The women
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: can be compelling. The story can be compelling. Come and go.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: But with Beverly Hills, you have real, real L.A., Hollywood
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: industry people.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And then on top of it, you have the history
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of Kyle, Kathy, Kim. Mm-hmm. When it started... There's nothing better.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Nothing better. So there's that. And then... And then there's history.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You know, there's the history that even on a slower
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: season that someone would argue that the Dorit and the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Kyle is... It's still... It's real. I still feel all
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: of them bring a lot. Um... I just had Bose
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: on the show and I really liked her a lot.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Fascinating.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And I had someone, someone did a little review of
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: it on their TikTok and they were like, I didn't
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: like her until I heard her on Heather McDonald's show.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And I do find her fun and interesting. So again,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like they can all come back. I don't know how
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Amanda will fit into the next season. Heather, I like her.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's a good housewife. Yeah, I like her. Yeah,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with what she's doing.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I think she's kind of brilliant. I just don't think she, like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: fits in relationship-wise. I don't think she's coming back. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: don't think any decision's been made. Right, but I feel
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: my gut is.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: And so I, my Roman Empire, I'm mostly thinking about nachos.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sunscreen. I'm always looking for the best condescension. And
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Erika Jayne.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: God, I just find her to be The perfect reality star.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Period. Yeah. Queen. Thoughts on Erica? I really think her
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: story is fascinating.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: When I read her book, I was very disappointed.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: There was absolutely no juice in it. Nothing. I still
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: think it would be great to have her come and
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: sit down here on Juicy Scoop and answer the questions
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I have. which are nothing incriminating.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: No.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I am not out to incriminate her, have her lose
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: her lawsuit. The things that I would like to ask
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Erica are, so you meet Tom Girardi, okay? You have
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: a decent relationship with your ex-husband, and you decide the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: ex-husband is going to raise the child in New York.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Pretty controversial for that time. Very. Obviously, it all worked out.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: You still have a great relationship with your son, right?
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I was always thinking that when she would get her
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: bad season, which she never got. Dying to hear this.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I always thought season two of her or three, some
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: bitch is going to bring that up. And they never did.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe they did.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: And maybe she was like, oh, you're not going to.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Because she did freak when people did bring up the sun.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: And later in the cop part.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: The cop part where that was so weird with Elaine Davidson.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: But I just thought, because I remember I was interviewing
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: her and I said, okay. And then, you know, she's very,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: at this point, she'd only been on the show one season.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: So she's very holding back. It was when I did
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the podcast. We weren't even filming it back then. And
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: she still brought three people. For the photo. She had
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a hair guy, a makeup person, and the wardrobe person.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: To be her. And all lovely. Okay. Sat down. Did
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: answer everything. But I said, so tell me, so you
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: meet Tom Girardi and tells me how she meets him and,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you know, moved in with like in her Toyota Celica
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and like a bag of clothes. I don't even know
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: if she had a luggage. Dory. Moved in with him.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: And then one day he's like, hey, let's get, we're
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: getting married today. My friend, the judge will be the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: person or something. And they got married on like the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: eighth hole of like whatever, some country club. And I go, so,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: so who is, you know, so who was there? Just,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: just the two of you and, and your son. And
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: she goes, oh no, my son wasn't there. Now the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: son was a little boy. Yeah. Was the mom there?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: And what I want to ask her is, this is
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: what I'm guessing. And now I believe it was such
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: a transactional relationship. That, you know, it was like living
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: with your dad. And I think he said, listen, you
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: can buy whatever you want. You can hop on a
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: plane and visit your son. The son can come out here.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: But I.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I need a wife to be available to me. I
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: don't hate that. I can't have you going to Little League,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. I am not looking to father
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a five-year-old. And I think that also part of the
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: package might have been she was really quite generous. to
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the ex-husband, this is all me assuming, to keep it nice,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: know that he had a great life in New York
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and everything. And maybe because she was already kind of
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: living a separate life in LA, not being a day-to-day mom,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: it was okay for her. It was okay for her
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and it was okay for her son. And like I said,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: they have a great relationship today. A lot of dads
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: don't have a day-to-day with their kid and turn out
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: to still have a great adult relationship with their child,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: providing they do it all right and everything. But I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: always thought, how has that never been brought up in
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: like a bitchy moment? But I'm glad that they didn't
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: do it because it would have been a really bitchy
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: fucked thing to say. But I love that you're saying
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: it now. But her comeback would have been like, and
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: look at us now. I have a great relationship with
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: my son. Now, the son never appears on TV, which
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: totally is fine. Which is hot because he's a cop.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: And she respects it and everything. But as a viewer...
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: She's like, oh, my son loves my new boyfriend who's
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: like the Navy SEAL. Yeah. You wouldn't mind it. You
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: wouldn't mind it. Could I see a dinner? You wouldn't
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: mind it. A cookout. Could I see a dinner? Could
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I see a cookout? Could I see him bring his
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: girlfriend and see if she gets it off with... Would
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it kill him? I mean, by the way, he's in
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a line of work that could kill him. This won't
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: kill him.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him for doing it. I'm a
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: little mad. I'm just saying she still... I don't care
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: if we never see the boyfriend or the son. I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: still want her on the show. I still find her interesting.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I like her advice. I love that she's become this person.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: But there's those kind of things. I also would like
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to ask her, so now you've been married to Tom
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Girardi for a few years, and you're going to these
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: highfalutin lawyers, Pasadena, which is the only old money town
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: in L.A. It's Pasadena. These people are snobby. That's not
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: how Erica grew up. Were these women mean to her?
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Were they nice to her? Did any of these other
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: guys hit on her like they did in Pretty Woman?
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: The book had no juice. And you didn't even read
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: the book. Why did you book me today? We need
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to get Erica in this chair. I always ask Erica.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Every time I see her, she's very nice to me.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I always say, I know you're busy. But there's so
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: many rules with Brava and all that shit. But I
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think there's so much more. This is
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the interview. I think there's so much more that she
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: could share.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: And she should share that part because we did see
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: signs and symptoms of her not fitting in.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: And we would feel the same way. And he was
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: an asshole. Yeah. And she realizes it now. Like, Erica, please.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: And that's one of the many reasons I love her,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: is that she could have gone the other way with
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: being insecure and staying in the victim role.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: And I think she rose. I mean, another person, Jennifer Tilly. Well,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: can we talk about the dress for a second? Can
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I get one with your picture on it? But only
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: someone with her personality could get away with that. If
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Dorit did it, the world would rip her apart. Of course.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost like sometimes when a drag queen
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: does something, it's every woman is like, she's fabulous.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: But if a woman actually dressed that... She mentioned if
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Amanda had done it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: No. It's not okay. It's like, you know, you're a thirsty,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: annoying twat.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: But someone that doesn't like... Of course you should wear
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: your face. Yes. Because you're Jennifer Tilly and she's so likable. Now,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: she's someone that... This has worked out perfectly for her.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have kids. We never see the boyfriend. Kind
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: of like Carol Radziwill, when she did the show, and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I told her this because she's been on my show
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: a bunch of times, I'm like, you're kind of lucky
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: because you didn't ruin a family, you didn't ruin a marriage,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you didn't hurt your kids. It's like you just could
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: go on and be yourself. And so she could just
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: go on and be herself. Is she a friend of
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: or a total member? She's still a friend of. Which
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is also in the poster. Someone who don't need a dollar.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It's the perfect role. It's the perfect role. It keeps
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: her relevant. I think she's doing some play or filming
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: something right now. So she's able to still be top
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: of mind for someone that may have otherwise forgotten about her.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Of course we would have. And then she gets to
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: have her fun. And she's just... sweet she doesn't have
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: to hide her money no she got it perfectly she
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: married someone who made a bunch of money she got
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: really smart with her divorce and then when he died
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: they were still friendly so it's like she when she
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: has some hundred thousand dollar bag no one's mad about
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: it your dead ex-husband left you that money.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Was she married to bart simpson But she also is
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: a brilliant poker player.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Let's give her some flowers for that.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Very interesting woman. Yeah. And I'm looking at the cast. Well,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know her and you went to her
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: party and I've never gone. Kathy Hilton. What a moment.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: What a once in a lifetime. I mean, she is historic.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: She should be protected at all costs. She's a national treasure.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: I think she is great.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: You know, she too has two sons we never see
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: or hear about. I don't know what they're doing. They're
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: good looking. And that's all fine. Yep. You know, like
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: when I've been like, how many grandkids do you have now?
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: She'll say all, you know, like a couple of boys
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: have had kids.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: But the only ones that count are the ones from Paris.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Well, to me.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: But I think it's nice that, you know, Paris is
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: one type of star. Nikki is really building her own brand.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: But Nikki Mary's a Rockefeller. I mean, they just have
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: done great. And I root for them. I want really
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: wealthy people to get more money. Why do you think
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: she was so angry at Kyle for doing the short-lived
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: show American Woman about their mother?
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Listen, we all have complicated... relationships with moms and Kathy's
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: was very different than Kyle's. And if you're, I mean,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Kathy's a little older, 10 years older, different dads. It's listen,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: it's a private thing.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: And Kathy doesn't put her dirty laundry out. And she
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: felt like, why are you doing this? I have these
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: great memories and not great memories and I'm not putting
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: on blast. I understand why she was angry, but I
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: also understand and was proud that Kyle's like, but this
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: is my story.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Right, and the story of how that came about is
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Kyle went to like Soho House or something with a
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: couple people. That's when she was fun. They were like
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: fans or something when she was still drinking. And they
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: were just chatting and she was just telling these fun
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: stories about her mother. And she leaves and then they
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: call and they said, you know, we actually think that'd
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: make a great scripted show and I want you to
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: meet these whatever. And You can't blame her for being like,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: now I'm an executive producer of a scripted show about
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: my life. It only went one or two seasons or something.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I never really watched it. I am very familiar with
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: the book that you cannot buy anymore, which is the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: book about the Hiltons. Some fans sent it to me.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And it was written probably 20 years ago. Paris had
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: already been famous. It is not... No, I can't imagine.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Towards the mom and the men that she dated and
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: what her aspirations were for her three daughters. And mom
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: liked the drink, right? Yes, but also the mom, you know,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: was smart in the sense... It's two, there's two different
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: kinds of moms, right? My mom was the mom that
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: was like, you get an education, you make your own money.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Don't ever depend on a man. You won't need a man.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: You're going to this private school and you're going to
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: go and be a star and be a successful person,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: whatever that is. That's how my mom, like when, when
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: my mom was young, her parents were like, sent her
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: to this to live with her cousin who was only
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: 20 because that's where a private all-girl Catholic high school
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: was in Chicago. And at that time, they were like,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you're smart, and that's the only way you're going to
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: have a career is if you go to this private school.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: So those schools started to kind of keep you from
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: getting knocked up and just being a housewife, like whatever.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: So then there's that kind of mom. This kind of
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: mom was like, no, you're going to make it because
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: you're going to marry the richest woman son of the
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: richest man in L.A. Mission accomplished. And you are going
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: to go for that. And you know what? It's just
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: as easy to marry a rich man as it is
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: to marry a poor man. And it was that kind
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: of mentality. Obviously, in Kathy's case, it certainly has worked out.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It sure as hell has. They seem like their best
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: buds and have been together like 45 years. Kyle married
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: this Persian prince. Yeah. Who used to be hot. The
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: first one? Oh, wait, we never talk about the Mauricio
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Lawless thing.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: She married the first husband.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Right, right. And had the first daughter, Farrah, and they
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: seem to always have a decent relationship. Then she marries Mauricio,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and they don't have a pot to piss in. He's
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: selling suits at a clothing store. They get their real
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: estate license together, and he starts working. Then she starts
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: having kids. He starts working for the Hiltons. And like
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I said, it never works out when you work with family, ever.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I work with my family. Well, that's one off, Heather.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it works out. Oh, well, maybe
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: it does. But for sure, in Mo's case, there's bad blood.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: So what happened when you said, what happened with the
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Lala story? So the Lala story is, I guess she
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: said on her podcast that he DM'd her. Well, he did.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And said, let's get coffee.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: That's all true. It does. But then he was stopped
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: and they said, tell us about this. And he goes,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: she's a liar. I don't think she's lying. What happened
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: was he got wind that she was recapping shows or whatever,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: her podcast. And, you know, I always say, you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the new thing to the TV show should be I
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: heard what you said about me on your podcast. I mean,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. You just say it, you put
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: it out there, and then you have to, like, clean
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: it up. Can we talk about someone right now and
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: make it happen? Wait, let's finish this story, but then
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, I'm going to say something. Okay,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: so then I think he heard, and he reached out,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, I heard what you said about
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: me on your podcast. Which is that he's a player.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Or whatever. Which he is. He goes, I'd like to
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: clear it up or something, either on the phone or
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: we could get a coffee.
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: Weird.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: And it shows, so then that's what it is. So
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: she's not lying per se, but why would you have
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to get a cup of coffee? So, okay. I had
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: PK reach out to me once.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: No!
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Because on my podcast, maybe two seasons ago, I said,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: you know, they're 20 years apart, Dorit and PK. And
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: he wrote me and he said, we are not 20
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: years apart. We are seven and a half years apart.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Oh!
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I don't blame him for reaching out to you, Heather.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you are only seven and a half
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: years older than Dorit. He goes, Dorit's 47. This is
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: like two years ago. And I'm 56 or whatever it was.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Or 54, whatever, seven years. And I was like, wow.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: you look a little older than that. But I was
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: just like, wow, she looks a lot younger. You got
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: it wrong. But he was, but I, yeah, I got
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: it wrong. You're not 20 years apart. You wouldn't like
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that if someone said you're, you know. No. So I
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: kind of loved that he did it. I wasn't offended.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I liked that he corrected it. And you like his accent, right?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I flattered that he knew about it. Yeah. And I'm like,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: all right. Like, you know, I like to read, I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: think he's fine, too. Like I said, we now know everything,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you know, that he drinks too much or doesn't. She
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: spends too much or she does or doesn't. Nobody is
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: spending any money on the mortgage. It was his job.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: There was a letter got lost in the mail, whatever.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Now it's ugly and we know it. And you're both
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: adults who have filed for bankruptcy. You've opened businesses. You've
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: spent money. You're not 20 and 55. You're not Erica
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Jane who doesn't know what's going on with her husband's business.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: At this point, this has happened before. You should have
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: been able to figure out a financial plan, and my
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: priority would have been not to move. I would have
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: done whatever it was to not move. My priority would
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: have been hiring Amanda Francis. Okay, what do you want
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: to talk about to get some press?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Who do I want to get the attention of? I mean, listen,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: it's not popular. And I'm in a minority now, but
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: I still think Craig Conover's hot.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Well, why did he suddenly become un-hot? I'm going to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: tell you, because I'm a Southern Charm expert. Because Paige
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: dumped him? No. God, do I have to teach you everything?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I was just boots on the ground in Charleston, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I hung out with Miss Patricia.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: And let me tell you something. She can't even get
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Craig to sleep with me. People don't like Craig because
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: he is, in fact, a liar.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: What did he lie about? Oh, he lies about everything.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: And because he acts different on camera, don't we all?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: But the end of the day, Heather, I just think
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: he's hot looking. So what I'm going to say right
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: now is Craig Conover came on to me at BravoCon
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: when we were alone in an elevator.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: How? It didn't really happen, but I want him to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: hear it. And I want him, not as publicist, I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: want him to reach out and say, that didn't happen, Lori,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I'll be on your podcast. People just don't like him.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: They think he's immature. They think he's—but I just— it' s one
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: of those people that he's not a fan favorite anymore,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: but I'm not fair-weathered. What is it called? Fair-weather fan?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I just— I love me some Craig Conover. Well, I remember
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: when my heart fluttered, okay? Uh-oh. It was BravoCon— The
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: first one ever.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: New York.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Where you had to walk blocks to go
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to the three different spots. The old school. And I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: went to the spot where all these people had their booths.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: And I was with, so I went there and I'm
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: walking through the booths and I see Craig and Austin
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: selling their sewing caps online. Sewing down south. I never
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: met them. I didn't even cover Southern Charm that much.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: They knew who I was. Who? Both of them. And
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: they go, Heather! And I come over. I got a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: free cap. Yeah, you did. Both tall and cute.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: My type.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Southern frat boy types.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, yes.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: And I got it too for both of them. And
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: then when he was with Paige, I was at an
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: event at Spago for like women in reality TV or
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: something like that. And Paige is adorable. And I'd already
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: had Hannah on my show and I know Hannah. And they, again,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: both came up to me very, very sweet and cute.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: But I knew from Hannah years back She did a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: show of mine and then we got a drink after.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Not going to do it again. Without telling me too
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: much like, okay, shake your head or whatever. I was like,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: do you think they'll get married? And she was like, no, no.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And they still stayed together like a year and a
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: half after that. So I was like, oh, so I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't surprised when they broke up. I wasn't surprised by
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: their kind of dynamic on camera. And I think part
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: of that is just, you know, circumstances and also, you know,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Paige's success. And when you date at that age for
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: a certain amount of years and you don't get engaged
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: or married by a certain amount of time, that window
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: becomes something where you're like, maybe I don't want this. Like,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: that's why guys, when they do find that girl that's right,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: they do need to lock it down. They do. They do.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: They need to lock it down because she'll change her mind.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: But he wasn't going to be able to lock her down.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: She was a star rising.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: And what I didn't mention, Heather, is maybe Craig isn't
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: great on alcohol. And maybe he got thrown out of
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Kyle and Amanda's wedding because of it. And maybe he's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: very mean on it. Maybe the last season of Southern Charm,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: that's another reason they don't like him. Is he sober now? Well,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: he said he was sober. And then he started drinking.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: And that was a big storyline this past season. But
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: I have to tell you, I don't know there's something
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: about Craig's temper. I mean, I'm almost 60. Whatever turns
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: me on, turns me on. I don't want him hurting anyone.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: But I don't mind a little out of control Craig.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of you, do we think, yes or no, allegedly,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: do you think Jen Fessler got fingered by West? Over
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: her pants? Yes. Well, no, it would have to go under.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was an inappropriate flirtation. Okay. Okay. I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: think that they didn't have real skin on skin and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I believe they didn't have sex. Am I naive, Heather?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know her personally. I have met her and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: she was on my show. I think she seems likable
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and non-polarizing, just kind of like, you don't hate her,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you don't, like, go hard for her and ride at dawn. Like,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: she's just a normal woman that was pretty, that knew
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the people in the group. Like, I just kind of, like,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure she's intelligent and, like, a
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: decent friend. I... Who knows? Some would say, you know,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: whatever that is, thee who attest too much whatever. I mean,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I had someone once tell me this like manager guy goes,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: didn't you? Oh, no. Oh, this was it. It was
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: like somebody was like, didn't you have a threesome with
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: like Sofia Vergara? God, would you be cooler? Did you
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: just say yes? Why wouldn't you just say yes? I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: was like. That's amazing, Heather. That's the best rumor. I mean,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: she kind of did that. She kind of was like,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I can't believe, you know, that anyone thinks that I
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: would be Eskimo sisters with Ciara or whatever she said.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: But I just, I don't know. I think because maybe
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: it was a little inappropriate or maybe there are phone
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: calls or DMs or something flirty that happened. Who knows?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think her husband cares. I think if she
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: told him this stupid rumors going around, I'm going to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: squash it. He's probably like, fine. Probably didn't listen to
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: two cunts on a Zoom. He didn't even listen to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: that episode. He doesn't even know what's going on and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: he doesn't care. And then because she is trying to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: stay relevant, she probably was like, I'm going to make
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: lemonade out of it. She is.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Listen, she was very upset not to be cast again.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: She was riding off into the not sunset. But I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: would say who is collateral damage is her son.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: He doesn't find any of it cute. I didn't even
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: know she had a son. That's how much I don't
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: remember from the show. Yeah, yeah. She has a son
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: and daughter.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 7: New Jersey.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: But I would say he's not finding it cute. It's embarrassing.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: The whole world's now... But I think it is, Dolph,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: protest too much. You must be. But there's something about
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the way she's denying it that I'm believing. It may
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: be my woman's instinct, but I would love it if
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Gosh, would I love that. I don't know.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's... I think it's possible and it also
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: could be nothing. No, no, no. But he did. How
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: about that watch what happens? Do you see that when
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: he says... And he says, if you slept. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: and he says, almost 60. And it was weird. It
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: was weird, but that's what I liked about it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: Ooh, didn't he, did you think he was cute before
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: this happened?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: No. Wow, I did. I feel so dirty. That's okay. Yeah,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I did. I didn't. Wait, how about I never liked
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Amanda Batula until this season? Now you like her? No, no, no.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: At the beginning of the season, I started liking her. Oh. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Because you felt sorry for her and you're glad. Well,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: because I had a younger daughter saying she's like the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: cool girl and she's beautiful and she dresses and Kyle's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: mean to her.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: And wow, did I flip my way of thinking. I
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: don't like Mandy.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: You know who I don't like also? Well, I don't
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: like Carl Radke's mom. I've made videos about that. You
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: see that episode? Good Jesus. I don't know what you're
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: talking about, but do tell me what's wrong with his
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: mother and why you go after a reality star's mother.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: She's that mother that comes over to Lindsay at the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: soft bar with no alcohol and she's like all in
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: the camera and Lindsay's face and Lindsay's like, I didn't
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: marry your son because of this. Oh, oh, this is
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: recent at his launch, which looks like it went well.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: You got to see that. But who I've just really
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: never liked, I don't get why people like her, but
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: people ride hard for is Lindsay. What is your feeling
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: on Lindsay Hubbard? I don't want to pull a Rappaport here.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get in trouble.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: It's not that I dislike her. I just don't get
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: the hype on Lindsay Hubbard.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I think she's really pretty. I like, good for her
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: and what she's done. Um, love that she's a mother.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I was always very curious. I was shocked when they
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: got together, her and Carl. Yes. I always thought when
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: he was a little bit heavier and he'd wear those
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: white pants, I always thought he would end up with
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: a boyfriend. Yeah.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all did. But there's, you know,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: there's no proof to it. I don't think that's going
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: to happen. I heard one something, but it doesn't matter.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I heard that about West TD. You never know. Guys,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: younger guys that are horny, they may dabble in the dick.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: They might dabble in the dick. God, I don't even
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: dabble in the dick anymore. And not really care. Why
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: is it okay for women to... make out with their
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: sorority sister and do all that stuff, but for some reason, guys,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: the minute they do a sword fight, they can't hang
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: out with a girl again? I don't know. It's possible.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: Heather, I know you were a big sorority girl because
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: you were cool like that, like me. When you look
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: at the pictures on Facebook of your sorority sisters now,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: there's none of those you're going to do, correct?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I never did anybody. I never kissed a girl. I've
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: never kissed a girl. I've never even done anything like that.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: But if you had to pick one woman on Bravo
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: to kiss... I know who I'd pick. I think I'd
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: pick Sierra.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: Damn.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think her body and her skin.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: It's just like, she's so perfect. And not only is
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: she a model, she's a nurse.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: So if you pass out from cardiac arrest for being
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: with a woman for the first time, you think it's
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: going to be that great.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: You're going to have a heart attack. My God, Peter,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: what are you doing wrong? And you're tall and lanky
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: like her too. Yeah. I just think she's very, very attractive. Um,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: But I'm just not attracted to women like that. Don't
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: you want to know who I would want to be with?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: But wait, I want to go back to the Lindsay thing.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: She's just mean. I don't think she was mean. Okay,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: you thought she was mean to Carl? I just think
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: she's mean overall. I don't like her energy. I mean,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting that a show where, you know,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: so many times we rally around women. And we're like,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that, you know, you were with this
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: man that crushed your dreams and didn't believe in your
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: crocheting or whatever. And we have two instances on Summer
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: House where the women were bashing his DJ aspirations and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: she was bashing his soft bar thing. And listen, I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: kind of was on Lindsay's side too. I was like,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: I get it. And I think part of it was,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: You haven't taken this opportunity as being a television personality
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to make a business work. I'm kind of getting turned off.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Now we're getting married, and I don't want to put
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: our combined income into the hardest business on earth, a restaurant, bar,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: sober or not, coffee house, a real brick and mortar
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: thing that you've never really worked in. It's not like
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: your dad owned five restaurants. You know, I mean, that's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: where I think— Your dad's not Ronald McDonald. That's where
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: mine is.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so that— That was great. Do you own— are
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: you McDonald money? No. Do you get free Happy Meals? No,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: but I did when I was a little girl. I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: was being bullied. Is your dad Ronald McDonald? And my
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: mom said, just say it. Tell him your dad owns it.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: So I went back in, like, third grade, and I said,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: my dad owns McDonald's. And then I went a little further.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Since we were at Catholic school, we didn't have a cafeteria,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: but every Wednesday— you could fill out a little form
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: and get a burger delivered to you. And I said,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: we donate all that. So you lied in Catholic school.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: I lied and I said, yeah, and I said, we
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: donate all the hamburgers and everything. And so for about
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: two weeks, I was the shit. How did that all
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: fall apart? A little shit came back to school and said,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: you're a liar. My dad told me that the people
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: that own McDonald's aren't even named McDonald's anymore. And it's
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: a franchise, which means anybody could own a McDonald's. There
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: isn't one person that owns McDonald's. What is little Heather?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: You were never little. What does tall Heather say at
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: that point? I just said. Oh, God. I just said, OK.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: I was joking.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: So I'm at a frat party in college. I went
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: to University of Georgia.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Go Dawgs.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: And this hot guy comes over right on the spot,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: quick as I am.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: He says, what's your name? I'm like, Lori Rapp. He goes, Rapp?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Saran Rapp. He goes, that's your— I' m like, yeah,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Rapp is my family. We invented Saran Rapp. And he
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: just kind of walked away and went to the keg.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Is that true, though? Yeah, I said that. But did
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: you invest in it?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: No!
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Oh. Oh.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Do you think that Saran Rap is a rap family
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: and they happen to do rap?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: But he was— That was the one and only. I
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: never lied again because I figured— Heather. If a third
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: grader can figure it out— You never lied again. No,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: about McDonald's.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: About McDonald's. If a third grader could figure it out,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: then you're— It's not a good lie. It's not a
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: good lie. You have a crush on Sierra Miller. I
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: can't believe— Do you want to have sex with Sierra Miller? No,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to have sex with her. You said
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: if I had to kiss someone— If I had to
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: kiss someone, it wouldn't be Jen Fessler.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Because old women are gross.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: What Bravo boy would you kiss? Because obviously I would
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: say Craig.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: You can't go Mo. You can't go Mo. Craig is
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Let me just see. Let's go through here.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Kyle.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Do you think Kyle Cook's hot now? Absolutely no one
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: from the Valley. No. Do you think? I like Tom Schwartz,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: but I don't think I want to kiss him anymore.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Wait, what about Kyle Cook, Heather? Are you finding him
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: having a glow up and being hot now?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I like Kyle Cook, but to me, he's a little
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: short for me, and I don't go for anything in
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: the blonde family. There's street signs that are short for you.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: How tall are you? I'm only like 5'9. But I'm
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: definitely going to say, I'm going to say, I mean,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say I think Craig is the only one. Yeah.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I don't even think I'd want Austin. No, you don't
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: want Austin. By the way, Craig and Austin aren't speaking.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: They hate each other.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: Now, Wittner's a new guy who I've become friends with.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: See that guy on the left?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's cute. He's a southern gentleman. Oh, jeez. Yeah,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I like him. But I've interviewed, I can't even think
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: of his name. I can't see from here. You know,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: what's his name? Shaky Leg.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, Shep.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: You're not having me. You're not. I interviewed Shep. Listen,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I like this show because I'm attracted to that frat
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: boy style.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Same.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: That he and Austin and Craig all share. I think
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Shep went to my college.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But, you know. He's old now and he's not,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: you know, that cool. I'm going to just, yeah, it's
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: going to have to be Craig as well.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: And so I have a question for you. Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: What is your favorite reality TV show right now? It
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to be Bravo. Like, what just makes you
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: smile and you can't stop just hearing the theme?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to have to be Real Housewives
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills, and it's not on anymore right now.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 7: It's not.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: But that would have to be it, that I'd be
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: the most excited. I watch it on Peacock the day after,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, good. You know, it's Friday, and
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I have a few shows.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: To watch now.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: You wish it was on all year, every day. I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: don't know if I even love it that much. But
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: it makes you happy. But, yeah, if I have to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: pick one, I'm, like, more into scripted shows a little
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: bit right now. Yeah. I'm sad that the comeback is over.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: That was great. You know, there's just certain things, but
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like that is a little quirky and it's
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: not for everybody. So that's where we're at. Well, tell everybody,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: you know, where they can enjoy more of your fabulous–
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Hot takes and humor. Well, you can find me. I'm
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: a TikToker.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: I'm an Instagrammer. I do a little entertainment reporting for
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: Us Weekly. And I have a podcast called Juicy Scoopy.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Does that bother you? There's a Y on the end.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoopy. Fan or fanatic? By the way, fucking hilarious.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I love you, Heather. Juicy Scoop is trademarked.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of things that have the word
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: juicy in it and a lot of things that have
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: the scoop in it. But you cannot. Take the scoop
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: out of the juice. You can say juicy scoop. I
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: love it. Like when I see like one time Melissa
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Gorga is like, oh, give me the juicy scoop. Like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I love that it's in people's vernacular.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: You just can't call your podcast that or wear a
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: shirt with it.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: But that is really funny that you just said that.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: And I loved being.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: And we will go after you, my team. This has
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: been fun. I like this. It's been so fun. I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: love that you came out and we'll have to do
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: it again sometime. We will. That's great. Queen Heather. Love you.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I love you so much. Thank you.
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