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We've Got Mail #191 | What Should YOU Watch on Criterion Channel? · Critically Acclaimed Network

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome fellow traveller to we've got man this is the podcast where you can control the conversation right here at the critically claimed network my name is William Bibbiani I'm a film critic guy right for the rap and everybody calls me bibbs my name is Whitney Sybel by two of my film critic I contribute to slash film for the purpose of purposes of this particular podcast you may call me
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're mad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're mad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't eat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every spelling of Rock Maestro McCool is correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So spell it however you like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is our one hundred.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Late for dinner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is our one hundred ninety first episode of We've Got Mail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should have been keeping track of all the spellings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe so, I don't have like a monster list of something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I only just thought of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Damn it, I would've been really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember reading a Batman source book when I was a kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The old 1966 TV series Batman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was an entire list of every single sound effect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, Biff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, bam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Swaps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Swap like they had different numbers of Z's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember just staring at that list in awe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's somebody thought to collect it like the taxonomy of those No, no, he's is was Part of record now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why, but when they the Simpsons did the episode about the radioactive man movie And they used they they cut back to the 1960s can't be version and they had those On-screen sound effects.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I always thought it was funny as hell that one of the sound effects was mint mint No
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[SPEAKER_00]: on uh... they made fun of that on the monkeys which was uh... uh... concurrent can can contemporaneous with that man uh... when they started the fight this screen just filled with rumble now i remember that uh... now that's a good comedy that is they said fool then one of the sound effects was crutch and uh... peter torque which is the camera is a crash
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, very funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, what we're on here to talk about Batman or the Monkeys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we might be the ones that have some rights in and what they have to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is our letters podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You write in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You send us an email, our email address is letters at criticallyclamed.net or if you're so inclined, you can send us a piece of physical mail, snail mail, if you will, made entirely out of snails.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's really hip in the skincare industry now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go if everything's made out of snail slime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's where we, and to think, we were there first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Snails were here first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're thinking well, they preceded humans, but yeah, but it was our idea to like make them useful anyway What's our what's our snail mail address send us a physical letter send us a little send us a meatball Send us a post car review like to the critically acclaimed network PO Box 64 1565 Los Angeles, California, and I'm to blow 64 now lately We have been doing we've got mail episodes about once a month
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is more or less enabled us to keep up with our correspondence, but we have been getting more correspondence lately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're doing one back to back and also
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[SPEAKER_01]: We owe somebody in a apology.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because in the most recent episode of We've Got Mail, which was only recorded really a few days ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, we had not got out to our peel box.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not before we recorded that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not all you mail that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Typically we try to get out to the peel box at least the day that we record, but sometimes we go a few days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a time and then we end up missing a piece of correspondence and then we feel like assholes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We apologize.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We always say that if you send us a piece of physical mail, we will read it 100% guarantee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should have done it more timely manner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We apologize.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have actual mail from the PO box to read.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we also have some emails, but we're going to start with these.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You took the time to write us a letter or send us a package and by God, we will open it and read it on the air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy how do we have some three pieces of physical correspondents this time around and one of them is a postcard that's come All the way from Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's a postcard of Mogera From the Haseira of Godzilla movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a nice chrome postcard fucking night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mogera's like backlit and this kind of smokey silhouette Oh, I forgot that Mogera was it was an acronym global operation godzilla expert robot
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of had the squeeze that went in a little bit, but by got it by golly we got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if Mogera like in the original iteration of Mogera That was in was it mess is not mess is from space experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the Mysterians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think it was an acronym I think they kind of wrecked just a fun name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They used to just give them fun names
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this one comes from Anders, hello Anders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it says on the postcard, Do your bibs and a book, Myster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mekuil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a Danish listener, live listener, living in Ibaraki, Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I hope this mogera card finds you well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My question is, what are some of your favorite Danish films?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, have you seen a coreteta, my co-san, a chino, my kasa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, uh, uh, Kyoto-Kazikora-Aida, as a filmmaker, I very much like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The title is Microsoft Chino-Maconai-Song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Best regards, Anders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm not familiar with that, but I have an American name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I look at, I'm, what, let me look up, yeah, what that was called in the United States, because I might have seen it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're, you're a choreographer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I love choreaida.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Herocosicora Aida did a still walking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, his work is often compared to Ozu, his, like, has a kind of said that slow style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really like nobody knows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a really great film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what is the title of that one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not look back, not monster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not broker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Levelite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to make it dramatic, I have no idea what I'm doing here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the third murder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thirder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The third murder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not after the storm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not little sister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hey, a little sister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What have you done?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really idle joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I gotta keep this light and loose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're losing listeners as we speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what we're looking these things up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not still walking, it's not nobody knows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I haven't seen this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's not wonderful life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So no, I have not seen that one yet, but as a Korea to found, I look forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen most of his movies, but there's a lot I need still need to catch up on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't liked all of his movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the truth the one he made in French with Julia Benoche and Katherine Nunov.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that one was actually really kind of dull, which is odd given that it's Corey Aida directing Julia Benoche and Katherine Nunov, and also Ethan Hawke is in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty stacked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of pretty good pedigree,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just something about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like a mokish for Korea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As for Danish films.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most, like a lot of Americans, my experience with Danish films is pretty limited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty limited and it's mostly relegated to Lars Vontrier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can comment on Lars Vontrier because I've seen a lot of his movies, but I know he's not emblematic of Danish cinema in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, no, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a problem with a lot of international cinema really is that probably most countries that have any sort of that release their own cinema.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's quite a bit of cinema, especially these days when it's easier to get things produced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But unfortunately, there is a barrier to getting into the American market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's very- Well, it's very- Finding American distributors actually like the barrier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to find out American distributors and American distributors looking for films that have
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[SPEAKER_01]: some kind of cash-shay that they can exploit to sell it to American audiences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in some cases, you might think that means, oh, horror movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only with a lot of sex and violence in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could just be a story that really caters to a Western sensibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's, you know, something that's really melodramatic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Might, that might be enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of films that are made in a particular
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[SPEAKER_01]: country or culture are very steep in that culture and even if they are wonderful, they don't necessarily translate very well the further you get away from that culture and so there might be a lot of subtlety, a lot of wordplay, a lot of cultural references that would go over the heads of a lot of American audiences and so we don't necessarily get them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can find yourself a mentor, a great podcast, a great online series that is specifically trying to introduce you to cinema of a different culture, a different country, a different genre in order to make those things accessible to people who might not be ready for them yet, or might not understand them yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's ideal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the rest of the time you're just kind of throwing out Willie Nillian, you're unless you're making a particular point of looking for, for example, Danish cinema.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You might have some trouble with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of people lately,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... might be familiar with uh... Nicholas vending reference pusher series uh... which weren't really huge over here but did get a big boost when he started making english language films like bronse and and drive and drive yeah um... and those were these big uh... this crime saga uh... the various a various film starring mad's mickleson uh... because he's got a cashier he was Hannibal he was in star wars he was at a marvel movie
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very familiar to American audiences, and so you can sell them with him, and so a lot of Americans probably saw that movie where he played, I mean, with a drinking problem and other round, it's not made for a couple of Oscars and memory serves, you may also remember him from, I think it was called The Hunt,
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[SPEAKER_01]: where he played a teacher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see the hunt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he played a teacher who was accused of, of, of, of, um, essentially assaulting a student.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I
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[SPEAKER_01]: a really tricky conversation in can of worms and the movie, I think, does a pretty good job of wrestling with that but it can be a really tough sit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you that right now, but Matthew Nicholson is fantastic in it, so I can speak to that at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, there was one recently, like a Danish film, I saw it recently that I really like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have seen the films of Lars Monterey, and I actually very,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a little bit of an ambivalent about Lars Von Trier because I realize that he's very pointedly aggressive, but he still gets me sometimes because he still gets to me, he gets under my skin and the way that he wants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of resent him for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like a great number of his films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Melancholy was really great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, his master work is nymphomaniac provided we can cut off that last minute because he wrecks his own movie in like about 60 seconds and we talked about that a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, uh, so I think he better than any other director really kind of understands the mechanics of depression, like the way it works in your mind, the way the world works when you're like really severely depressed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm also familiar with Carl Dryer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was about to bring him up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Carl take the earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carl Ted or Dryer has made some of the best movies of all time, and that's not an exaggeration.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he did the passion of Joan of Arne, Silent Movie 1928, uh, one of the most intense social pictures ever made.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We recently did, uh, podcast about the films of the best cinematography ever, and you mentioned Dryers of Ampere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm here, yeah, this weird nightmare of a movie,
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[SPEAKER_01]: sometimes overlooked in sort of favor or because of the significance of Nostpharatu, which is another early art house, vampire movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't actually have a lot in common, but Nostpharatu kind of got all the press.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Vampir is there for all the film students to enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember watching Gertrude film school, though, I don't remember a lot about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did go to the, um, to bleak week, uh, cinema of despair, which is this great annual, uh, tradition that they have at the cinema attack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just show the most depressing movies imaginable, and that's where I saw Dave Roth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've seen, uh, numerous Carl drier films, and I like, I think he's a really fantastic, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like a religious filmmaker he deals with sort of religious hypocrisy very but apart from that and a few like recent films I feel like my my knowledge of Danish cinema in general is pretty limited well I will say this I feel like when we think about the films that we get out of Denmark we often think of these like very art house kind of movies but they they make other films and I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: You and I and a lot of other people in the last two years were introduced to we were talking about Who was the who was the monster on the cardigan?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Magar we were talking about gymos like magar in Denmark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had reptile kiss
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a Danish film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a Danish film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a British production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might have been a British production, but I think it was a Danish one as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, not to be fair, reptilicus is silly, but it really illustrates the great way of monsters all over the place, not just in Japan, but across the planet and 80's e-gamot, a gigantuan paniply.
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[SPEAKER_01]: well done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every country has a monster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm the reboot of this anniversary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in the effort of pushing this podcast forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Winnie and I obviously have a lot of learning to do about Dana's cinema.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if anyone who is a fan of Dana's cinema, whether you've been there, you're from there, or you're just interested in the region, and you know more than we do, there's a really good chance you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know your favorite Dana's films, especially the ones that we might not hear so much about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here on America because unfortunately it's a little limited here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say, we know Dogmat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the dogman ninety five that's removed meant uh... which was it that was what's going to be a but it's also stomus of interburg and we know tomis of interburg uh... who celebrations yeah celebration uh... did you do you have a funny or was that also fun to hear i don't remember but uh...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this manifesto was written about sort of allowing this kind of aesthetic purity back into cinema, and the dogman 95 movement was all about natural lighting, natural sound, you know, makeup, nothing was faked, it all had to be like as real as possible, it could be scripted, but nothing could be artificial, and some films abided by it and some films.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, very few comments for it around well, there were so many rules in dogma 95 that there's actually very few movies even within the movement That strictly adhered to anything even celebration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had to move a light once and that was yeah this qualifying And I think it was Julian donkey boy the harmony Korean movie
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, one of the characters, I think the Chloe 70 character is pregnant, and they just stuff to her shirt, rather than her actually being pregnant, and that was rejected from Dogmond 95 on that basis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it was impure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, you can't fit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just we really, if you want to pregnant character, it's a pregnant person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, part of me wants to feel a little self-conscious because we started our letters episode on a little bit of a stumper.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of dry spells here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Whitney and I tried to remember stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We typically do not read any of these ahead of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to be surprised, but I think it's worth remembering that three of the most important words in English language are, I don't know, and that's where all knowledge begins because then you want to seek out more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I highly encourage everyone to write in, let us know if there are Danish filmmakers, films, movements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we didn't mention that aren't well-known in America that so that Whitney and I can educate ourselves and the next time someone asks us for some great Danish cinema.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have a better answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're always trying to evolve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I have another letter here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, first of all, it comes in a rather large envelope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sender drew, it looks like a little loot on there with a little musical note coming off of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And on the back it says printed very clearly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fellini rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh snap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is definitely for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, we're about to get cold out of there on our full, on our Fellini garbage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're a little bit, a little bit, we're on hot and cold on Fellini.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mostly run cold on Fellini to be perfectly fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a letter inside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It comes from, you got this wedding, which is, you can see it's there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to tell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, maybe we're here with ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one comes from Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe Paul is the one who called us out that we sent us a letter and then we didn't get it and I promise we would apologize profusely So before we even get to the letter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're sorry Really sorry We I actually I really decided a little if it's just I mean that I we're really sorry
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can be contrite, but don't prostrate yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, now I'm really good at prostrating myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my dad always told me, focus on your strengths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That happens to be wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dear Rock Maister McCool and fuck water polo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It begins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I write up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally left so hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I shot coffee through my nose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really when you described the plague, it sounded just like what happened to me when I moved out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the movie The Plague, which is a water polo drama about bullying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you heard our review of it, I went out of my way to say fuck water polo, because I had very bad experiences playing water polo in high school, and I thought the film captured the vibe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Paul says it sounded just like what happened to me when I was moved to another school in the middle of the school year Only instead of having the plague.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They said I was Contaminated and act just like the kids in that movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, here we are a few of the more eye-popping and surprising films from my Psychotronic journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh Oh, Psychotronic has a trademark on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wrote that in as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It should
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[SPEAKER_00]: Psycho-tronic is a term for a very specific type of kind of mind-bending genre picture particularly cult cinema usually not usually outside the mainstream movies that aren't just like entertaining but feature material within it that is
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[SPEAKER_01]: bizarre mind-blowing, violent, sexual, trippy, just something where whether you like the movie or not, you're going to get an experience, and the term is popularized by a series of books called Psychotronic Film Guide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if I might go well then, is the author's name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back before we had an internet full of lists of recommendations of book like the Psychotronic Film Guide, which focused mostly on films that you wouldn't see in Leonard Malton's film guide, for example, because they were just too weird and esoteric, was indispensable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a way a lot of these movies even were heard of in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still have mine, and it's still useful, I guess those things are source books now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have my phone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, here's a films for my psychotronic journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, the giant of metropolis, 1961.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good kick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Morton Hawke, the costume designer for Planet of the Apes, and beneath the Planet of the Apes, I swear to God it must have seen this movie because of the costumes are exactly like the ones of the Apes and the mutants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's even some chrome cross-fingy that looks like the atomic bomb incorporated into the insane huge sets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In 10,000 BC, there's a technological civilization on Atlantis, the protagonist isn't like a global, unknowable caveman who looks exactly like Charlton Heston or James Francisco's in the Apes films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Atlanteans are evil mad scientists who do brain transplants and stuff, it'll remind you of the flash, a flash Gordon the way the creative set designs weird outfits look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen the giant of the trouble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have seen trailers for that movie, like in the various, like, revival screenings, they would play that trailer ahead of it, because it's weird, but never actually saw the film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, this one I have seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The giant spider invasion, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Robone and Eto Robones, or ITO, as he's listed in some credits, have always been attached to utter crap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who hasn't fallen asleep in front of these action-packed rollercoaster throwlights like Monstra Go Go?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little bit of a joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Monstra Go Go is death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Monstra Go is one of the most boring monster movies you'll ever even hear about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it, Bill was found?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no monster, Bill was found alive, unharmed, 30 miles away, or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a monster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a monster, go, go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Monster, go, go, go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or invasion from Inner Earth, 1974, a bunch of guys and flannel shirts sitting around tables talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I found this on YouTube and Blu-ray clarity, there's a whole no experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Compared to watching it on grainy WPGS Pittsburgh there's Hillbillies nudity real women not models gore and oh yeah a giant spider that does look like a Volkswagen covered in black fur.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to see that Volkswagen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sonny to come and figure out that the spider came from another dimension that this inspires Stephen King's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I guarantee you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He watched, he's was watching this movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you read his books about writing, he'll often talk about the really shitty movies that he would watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a teenage wear wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would be like, and this was a major inspiration for me, and I'm like, it's very much the George Lucas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was a kid, I saw only the good in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw only the potential.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I made it into something good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't but see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would not be surprised at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See if the king saw that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and spoiler alert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't believe in the existence of spoilers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never heard that term until the 21st century.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, everyone would just get off that crap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like hearing about how a movie is going to end before I see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody used to worry about that back in my day, but I digressed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Scientists come and postulate that the spider came through a black hole that collapsed in on itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: into what modern physics now calls a naked singularity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is years before Stephen Hawkins, Stephen Hawking, first postulated a similar theory that black holes could evaporate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exclamation point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so the giant spider invasion,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Inspired Stephen King and Stephen cocking all the Stephens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everybody named Stephen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Stephen to Bloski Decided to start acting because he saw the movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad we have Stephen to be low-skies Yeah, and now you can see Devreys 2000 on the local theater market points for being filmed in a God forsake in location I get tired of California and palm trees all the time No, we get tired of a two
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get annoyed because if a film takes place in California, sure shoot there when they're say we're just gonna go up the mountains of Siberia And it's clearly Malibu.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that annoys us because we know that's the Pacifico style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I'm sorry, California It says it'll be demelipointed out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a very Ecologically diverse state you can find places to film that are more convincing than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go out to the desert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You film your biblical topic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's because rocks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plenty of stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to, if you want to budget, you don't have to do the lazy route.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and Antia, okay, and he rifts on something we did many years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he says, and that's the end of the letter, but he says, also music by.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The period interest, beef torpedo, the thugs of God, manifold, destiny, Johnny synapses in the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dendorites?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The insignificant others, Billy Barfe and the vomitones, I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Disco doesn't suck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Count Floyd and the recess monkeys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Quit pro quo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: double penetration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reemus and Romulus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fluvian vectors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good one, I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cash grab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's also good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The white visitation, Lucy, Levia, and Paul Canozi, and in the background, running the vomit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget, Subist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Subist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would see Lucy, Levia, and a second one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, she would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably have that t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even realize it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to see Lemprini girls in concert cutter recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or Lemprini girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for those of you who may be newer to the show years ago on our podcast cancel too soon, we were talking about the phenomena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the 90s, late 90s, early 2000s, where all of the shows, especially on like WB, anything marketed to kids, concluded with after like, you know, the big cliffhanger up for the episode, credits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this week's episode of Buffy the Vampire Slager, Slayer featured music by and they would list like three albums, three bands and had a new album out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sponge core and whole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were talking about how much we enjoyed that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when we, I think it was our freaky links episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Freak, it goes, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was our freaky links, because they they advertise their hit soundtrack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so when we reviewed the TV series Freakeelings, which is of that generation, Whitney and I, each put together a list of a couple of dozen fake 90s sounding band names, anything that sounded like it would get a buzz cut, which was an MTV reference not to hear, and then we ran through it, and it was a pretty funny bit, and then we realized that we were wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't even have an ending.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We wanted to keep the bit going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we each came up with one hundred so I think we had like two hundred and there was a or forty each.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we took turns just sort of like throwing these band names at each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them are references to people who've been listening to the show for a long time like Paul Canozi and in the backward running ramen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we were quite on a t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His name is on a t-shirt now and I'm glad he's he's not suit us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we really sold any, but we didn't have a conclusion to the bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we ran out of our 50, we just started sped falling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fake band that broke us was a band that came up with called Subist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't sure what you were trying to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like two words clearly mashed together in your mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you came up with a Subist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was so pissed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew I knew that would definitely was trying to give us but it was spelled SBIST SBIST and we decided to put Subist like come up with a metal font like a logo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for Subist like a school Subist band T-shirt and we put it on our T-shirt store Which is still a thing by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't updated it in like a decade and I don't think we've sold a T-shirt And we haven't sold a T-shirt there for a long long time
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a Subist mug because it was on T-Public and it go to T-Public like I look up canceled too soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can find our T-shirts down by one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know We might get five or five bucks for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we won't get five bucks for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get a dollar, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can still get the Subist logo on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorites was a fake lawyer series that we came up with in one of our earliest episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We started Katherine Hygel and a dog, but the dog was a lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The dog was a lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was called Rock Realty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rock Realty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have front reality t-shirts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great idea We have some that are based on like in jokes that even I barely remember like one of them is a A port oh like a public domain portrait of Markone and it just says Markone you asshole Oh yeah, we did say that once down And what context did we say there was another one we were really talking about Barbie and the rockers And we didn't like that and so we just had one that said
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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't say fuck you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It said shop can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, shut up can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, turn the shut-up Wesley, but can Which this is no slights to the can from the movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, all those faces it carries before the movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, here's where the movie can sucked Like but not like canonically in a meaningful like you'll learn a viable lesson way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just sucked Yeah, so shop can but we should move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do have more letters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we do yeah, here's another Physical package get to crumble and put it on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, this is a little bit of mR. That's, we always have to say, anytime there's a sound effect, you have to say it is a mR, even though it's not actually what a it's a mR isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's what it's coming to me, and I forgot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Guy now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a red envelope that says, Read this first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god, that's ominous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's an envelope full of chili.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's a, oh, it's a Christmas card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha!
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[SPEAKER_00]: the deleted Christmas present.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You to bring the Mary wherever you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's too snowman on hot cocoa in this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have mugs in our hands right as we speak again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You even have a Christmas mug.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do have a Christmas vise as season's tweeting is a little bird on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The inside says Merry Christmas to a pair who are so good together and so very loved and then written from Robert Dear critically acclaimed sorry for getting this to you both Late but better to be better it be late than never once again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are two gifts for you Oh, once again you get to make the decision who gets to open what happy 2026 Robert oh my gosh, Robert okay, there's two gifts in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's wrapped in some red tissue paper
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there's two things wrapped in Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so shall we do like the blue one or the one with the little Christmas tree?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will take the Christmas tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, I get to hear some ripping more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's see what we got here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's some murmurs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to rip everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, it's a blue ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a DVD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also have a DVD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you got it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a film by Academy Award winner Richard Attenborough closing the ring, starring Shirley McLean Christopher Flummer, Misha Barton, Steven Ammon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Misha Barton, Neve Campbell, Pete Palsilth Wade, Brenda Fricker, Gregory Smith and Martin McKinn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big kind of thing you've ever heard of this, may I say that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When is, like, 2,000?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is closing the damn ring, who knew?
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[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The British film, I'm not aware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sir Lord Richard Eddon, bro, what do I need to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to open the, I can hear the disc.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, it looks like it's what you're gonna have to open that effect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got a copy of one of my favorite westerns ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Quick in the bed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh hey, the same rainy mood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you have a copy of this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I think you should have this because I do have a copy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and uh... i will i guess i'll technically i'll take that but of course you can watch it and we fix it here oh yeah fell off the spindle yeah that that that that that that that that's how to spend noise there oh yeah that's the stuff thank you oh that's so cool so much there these movies it's very generous really really nice of you thank you and i love that that's only a never even heard of before
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you recall, I got to write an article about the quick and the dead recently, uh, because, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
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[SPEAKER_01]: caricature and they're all very, very cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, let's say Rick Sims plays like a gambler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He plays a gambler and he is like, uh, like, spades all over his, his outfit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like leather suit and yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the, the, the gag with his character is like, he's claiming that he killed people that the Jean Heckman character killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he gets like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: shot in this really humiliating way in a movie which is the exact same plot point that just happened an unforgiven by that point with Jean Hackman That's just a good funny, but like so great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it cares But Lance Hendrickson has talked about that character and how he didn't like the way his character died I thought it was really humiliating anyone this character a little bit more dignity, so he said in the quick in the dead, too
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[SPEAKER_00]: Turns out that character was one of quadruplets because you wanted to play the other three suits you say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's cute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's cute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You figured there's to have it come back higher me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll play all three parts and I'll play these like three dangerous gun slingers and each one has like a different personality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still maintain that the ultimate pitch for the expendables three because you were called that the gimmick and the expendables two was John Clemente and was the bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a good time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a fun piece of fun actor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a fun villain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Van Dam always plays twins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done it a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done it like a half dozen times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was like only like Peter Sellers has played multiple characters in more movies than John Van Dam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should have brought back his twin brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And while you're at it, every other action hero who died, Stone Cold Steenoste, Steve Austin, Gary Daniels, all of them, they all had twin brothers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would have been the best fucking movie, but the last now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That one was the stomp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was very, very sweet of you and very cool, and thank you very, very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very, very nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what a treat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all the physical letters we have this week, so go ahead and set us physical letter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, we're not getting so many that we're not going to, we're, we don't have to throw any of them out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can just sort of read every single word.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we are getting more correspondence than we have been in a little while, which means we're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've done a little bit more often.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which as long as that's the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, typically we've only been doing it about once a month, but if we keep getting more like this, we could do a couple of times a month, maybe even once a week and we get enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, but let's let's dive right back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, here's a email.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This email comes from Adelaide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Adelaide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Adelaide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Whitney and William.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to take a quick minute to thank you both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh dear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listening to both talk so thoroughly about film and being so well educated about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as well as the dwindling nature of our current American economy has inspired me to get more formally into film criticism as a formal medium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Beyond eventually getting paid for it, however much it may be, I find myself generally dissatisfied at how much my grasp on the English language has faltered as I've grown up in distance myself from higher education, so hopefully re-learning my literacy and analysis skills I abandoned once I stopped being graded for it, will help me feel better as an individual and leave a better impact on those around me as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Read old books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just read old books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That will bring a right back up to old witty books.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like don't just necessarily look for any old book like find like Plays written by Oscar Wilde, fun collections of writings of Dorothy Parker and Robert Benchley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, read poetry read translations of real career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just read any granted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone who's having fun with words is my point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not just we're telling a little story using words that aren't necessarily you knew anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People who are playing with language, that will get you to hear it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a surefire way to get into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the way this book is seen and it's a really controversial, but it's, and I know what it sounds like when somebody recommends this book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I recommend that you read Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the end of that book, Nabokov wrote a little bit of a sort of an explanation about what the book was and he says, this book, this story is a love story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what this book is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like about the rot, the rot, the rot, the rot, and so this is like your...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything that's wrong with society and he says no no no not that kind of love story This is a love story between me and the English language because he wrote an English Yeah, he translated his own works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He loved English
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[SPEAKER_00]: He rolled words around it as mouth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The story is horrifying, it is a horror story, and it is told from the perspective of a monster who thinks he's the hero.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, the prose is so florid, and everything is so beautifully described that you find yourself getting smarter while you're reading it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a great work of literature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but be warned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know what the, you know, it's not for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, honestly, when I say it's not for everybody that usually sounds pity, this is really not for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not everybody's going to even even if you accept or acknowledge the idea that the book is, you know, told from an unreliable narrator and it's a horror story, told in a conventional way, it's also genuinely an unpleasant tale.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of how well it's written.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do not actually, you do not absolutely do not have to read that, but if you can handle it, if you know what's about me thinking and handle it, then give it a try.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop being graded for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also wanted to thank you both, specifically, for inspiring a point of growth on my end for film consumption.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're iron list series about films, organized by the alphabet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: struck some kind of cord in me and led me to research into blind spots for myself and turned that idea into a full article series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can work on for the next however many years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not looking for any promotion, but I am deeply grateful for you to have you have both been able to inspire me and be creative and give me work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been passionate about these and troubling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can be passionate about in these troubling in times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I link to the articles below if you have any interest in pursuing it in your own time, but my mental state has grown so much with these, and I found a sense of determination.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to go out of my way to commemorate you both from Adelaide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I cheated on this one actually because I actually did read this email.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Had it's unusually, I don't, but I did look up the articles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're a lot of fun, and I'm really, really glad that our
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of off the cuff idea to group movies and they sort of arbitrary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just happened to begin with the same letter and thus you're going to discuss movies together that you would normally never get to discuss in the same conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad someone else liked that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes me really, really happy and it's really, really fun series of articles and thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say this, when it comes to wanting to write, whether it's own criticism, or poetry, or novel, whatever it is, it's always good to read more, it's always good to write more, get more comfortable, always create a space for yourself to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you're trying to create a product, you're trying to create something perfect, you're trying to create something
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[SPEAKER_01]: and that may or may not be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You may or may not even be great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're creating a space to play, that's when you're mind isn't in the sort of goal-oriented have to fit this mold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when your mind is free to experiment and try to find your own voice, your own language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't necessarily, they're a certain vocabulary that you do need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: when you're going to be a film critic or write about any particular topic with expertise, but probably not as much as you might think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once you get that down, using your language is fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So just find the way you talk, find the way you share your excitement with people, and find the way that you play with language, and then your work will not only be entertaining and informative, it will be distinct to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I encourage everybody whether you want to be a critic or anything else to pursue opinions of expression for yourself and to play and then I think you'll be infinitely more rewarding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably became a much better critic in the last couple of years when I finally found myself in a work position where I was given the freedom to kind of just do whatever and I got a lot better a lot faster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I write in a sort of a critical milieu where there's like a lot of rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just sort of, that's just sort of mild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does have a lot of outlets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of outlets have very particular rules about how you need to write.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just just the formatting of each particular, a pure article has a different voice that they want to capture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they would like, all right, they can capture that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There have been a few of instances recently where I've had the privilege of contributing essays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to like blu-ray releases and they just say make it a certain length yeah much longer than a typical review
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wrote an essay for that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was very proud of that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to use the phrase Shufft as fuck Very very proud of two short use like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's great Without strictures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it could be a little bit better, but in the current Strictures of like certain outlets, it's you have to keep him short
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to capture it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go all the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to play exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we find find a place for it and do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's next?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, here's an email from Cameron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Cameron says.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, bives and witty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did something the other night at the movie theater that I've never done before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What could it be?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you taste human flesh for the first time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spoilers for the recent film, primate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you'd like to tell the audience to skip shortly, I, you can't spoil primate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Primate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's unspoiled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an A-bending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Starts killing people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not much to relate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's really a plot like a twist at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In primate, the sister character gets bitten by Ben, the titular rabbit chimpanzee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She then proceeds to basically bleed through a turn to get in a pool for the next few hours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a plot of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... then during the final confrontation gets scratched really deep across her stomach at the end of the movie when they're wheeling her to the ambulance she saved she saved yeah she yeah she's uh... and the concerned family of standing nearby the paramedics says she'll be fine
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I blurred it out, she'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was totally subconscious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize I did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a sneeze.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It came out of me, shouted, she'll be fine at the screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my question is, have you had any moments like this where I'm moving, maybe you blurt something out at the screen without even knowing you did?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love the show is Cameron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can remember one very, very sharply.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I hated this movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In Kevin Smith's Tusk,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a scene where Who plays the Matt Scientist in that one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's some of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, um, He's a very good actor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say Charles something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That right, he was then came Bronson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was the killer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my, Michael Parks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Parks, I was way off of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Parks plays a mad scientist who kidnaps the character play by Justin Long, and begins to use like twisted surgery to alter him into like a walverus being, like plants, tusks, and his skull, and then bad skin to his body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Human centipede style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Johnny Depp plays a French Canadian investigator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who is on his tail and they make him unrecognizable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They put him in this like really elaborate comic maker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's pretty recognized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he also does this really exaggerated French Canadian dialects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the accent that he puts on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like as exaggerated as something you would hear in like
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[SPEAKER_01]: like a head of our bearer cartoon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like this really, really bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like deliberately so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, still this is supposed to be like this comedically bad accent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes to the Michael Parks character house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Michael Parks, I don't know what exactly what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he's trying to disguise his voice when he's talking to this cop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to throw the guy off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But trailing him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he puts on this weird kind of like speech impediment, which is also comedic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hearing Johnny Dap talking with this thick French Canadian accent, to Michael Parks who has this, this, this, uh, implacable speech and betterment of some kind, talking about protein and how long it took to drive there and about nothing in particular.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just yamoring it, they're clearly improvising.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just going on and on and on and in the middle of that scene, I just I was staring a gas that how awfully unfunny that scene was and it goes on for a and it's a clock and I'd be surprised a bit shorter than five hundred.
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[SPEAKER_00]: About 168 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I get really on for a long time and I just said full voice in the theater at this press screening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god shut
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I put my hands on my face just oh my god shut up and the like I I just wanted the movie to stop right that was so fucking pissed off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you know There's a certain code of conduct that we like to follow in a movie theater You they say put put away your phones turn them off or at the very least put in my airplane mode like just nothing You can look at all right just boom that's common courtesy, you know, and yeah, you don't talk
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[SPEAKER_01]: during the movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't have a conversation with the person next to you during the movie, but I will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have a vocal reaction to a movie or even if you're at like your kind of drunk at like a Friday, 10 p.m. screening of some really silacious horror movie, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm okay with a rowdy crowd that's talking to the screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are limits, but I think the important thing is that it is a genuine reaction to the film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not you just saying shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not you trying to be the center of attention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not pulling in mystery science theater 3000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just the movie did something and your first response is to audibly respond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Often this takes the form of clapping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people make fun of people who clap at the end of a movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the cool blakers aren't there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was an asshole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The clapping is a spontaneous response.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To something that you appreciated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they don't have to be there, we are all expressing that didn't we all like that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't had a wonderful time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Laughter is the same way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a natural response as something we find funny and sometimes even discomfort.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching a horror movie and there's a jump scare, even if it doesn't scare you, if it scares someone behind you and they scream, that is now infectious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's part of the experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on that note, if something happens that makes you go, ah, fuck you, I think that is also very genuine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm not going to complain about it, provided you don't go on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, like, if something like, I was just watched the third film and the strangers trilogy, the reboot trilogy, which is the fifth film and the series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the whole trilogy is just a bismal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love everyone first one I've not seen chapters two or three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, they get like a little better But there's still a lot of room for them to completely suck like they're just really really really really bad and there was like There's a scene in the third one Where because it's if you've never seen the strangers, it's uh, the original was a home invasion movie About three killers in masks Who attacked two people in the house just because they were home was very ambiguous
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the reboot trilogy, they decided to reveal everything about the strangers, which defeats the entire purpose and it's awful and in the third film, there's a scene towards the end where the lead bad guy takes off his mask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This spoiler, I'm not going to tell you what is or anything, but just that happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And someone in the theater was like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, as if they hadn't figured it out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the only character who's the right age.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll just help you out here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing, earlier in the movie, like the third scene in the movie, that character without the mask has a conversation with the protagonist about how they're the killer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was handled so badly and so vaguely that them saying out loud that this person was the killer didn't register.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you're allowed to have any sort of reaction you want to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have, I try to watch myself in critics' trainings, I did apparently me and my ex-husband when we watched the Bill Condon live action remake of Beauty in the Beast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it was so fucking every fucking creative decision was so absolutely terrible that we kept having those reactions and oh fuck off yeah kind of yeah and it was people were mad at us i'm fair enough the one reaction that i wasn't talking but it was 100% genuine uh and it was loud uh was when i was watching the uh adaptation of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: which I've never seen the play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear the play is wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The movie is got awful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Largely thanks to a cast that is just wrong for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's most of them are not well, they're not the right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a part came a point in that movie and I do not recommend this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not a healthy thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was so numb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to the film, to the world, to life itself that I slapped myself in the theater and I accidentally did it so loud people heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was mentioned in multiple reviews.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was an accident, but it was 100% genuine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, it's like, you got a splash cold water on your face just to reset your nervous system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it was for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing I will do, and I will do this every single time, regardless of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, regardless of the genre, regardless of how serious it is, if at any point in your movie,
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[SPEAKER_01]: A character says the name of the movie, uh, I will applaud every single time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is some kind of money plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yay!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, this certainly was a treat of life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yay!
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess every time, like, you know you're doing it, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this was, you wanted us to think it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get back my Naurity Report.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am still getting into the fight guilty of finding very stern and serious movies completely ridiculous and I will I can't help myself a giggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've been shushed before for giggling during some very serious scenes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think somebody's dying and coughing and bleeding out their mouth and it's so so ridiculous to me that I'll just
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[SPEAKER_00]: Flap because that's my natural reaction and people will get pissed off Oh, you remember when you watched Dawn of the Planet of the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a scene at the beginning of Dawn of the Planet of the game first scene right at the start where a Chimp leaps off of a rock holding a spear and jumps on a bear and spears it in the back
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the most ridiculous thing you've ever seen, a chip is just speared of bear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's supposed to, and it's played for like this really hefty thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I can't get over the fact that I just watched the chip spear bear in an action film pose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the most absurd thing I've seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I laugh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I laugh out loud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a critic sitting in front of me just said, I'm supposed to laugh at the movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were very indignant about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were very indignant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were laughing for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like one eye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You and you got the giggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I got the giggles and then they cut to a scene all the chimps are walking around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like pushing shopping cards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, they go into the chimp village and they're all acting like humans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is, what am I watching?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is absurd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like an agreed, and there's supposed to be, I think it's basically, on its face, it's absurd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not literally pushing shopping cards, but that's the vibe I come with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just sort of hanging around and they're a little chimp village.
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[SPEAKER_01]: behaving like humans and speaking English like you know this is just one step removed from Lancelot like right there this is like a mad magazine parody like I'm about I'm really supposed to be to sort of stone-faced watching these chimps go shopping I have a lot of people take those movies really seriously and that's fine but the lot of ridiculous shit happened in those movies okay when when the evil Bonobo is like the
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[SPEAKER_01]: dual-wielding machine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a horse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that is a silly shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're allowed to giggle it back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say, I like that movie a lot of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it way more than the previous film, a rise of the planet of the age.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was only okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don, I thought it was much better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the special effects are really terrific.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a scene at the end where a chimpanzee on horseback, firing two machine guns at the same time, screaming like a chimpanzee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe it's a Benoba.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's a champ.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was the main bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the main bag I've been over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's Kolba.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was another champ and Z. I thought Kolba was a Bernabou.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kolba was a champ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kolba was a champ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Played by Toby Campbell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I was played by Toby Campbell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not an asshole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Toby Campbell's very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at this up because I could have sworn Kolba ape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's up a no bow Wikipedia is a big fat liar face
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I do think there are moments where it is okay to talk during a movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe that you shouldn't overdo it and your response should always be a genuine reaction to the film and then you should try to shut up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to make it about you, you don't want to make it spectacle of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there is an unfortunate tendency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for, especially at revival screenings, for people to treat every movie like it's ironic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that your spell is supposed to laugh and giggle at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not necessarily the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of those movies can absolutely be enjoyed on their own merits without ironic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, quicky detachment, that is a, that is a, that is a plague of the revival community and I'm not a fan of it, but a lot of times we would shit happens and it's, they didn't laugh a little bit even at a serious movie going back to psychotronic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's a psychotronic moment where you're watching, you know, chimpsphere bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's do another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a letter from Lauren.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Lauren.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was recently hospitalized, no dear, with paralysis of the left side of my body, thankfully not a stroke, and while I'm expected to make a full recovery, I'll thank goodness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of time to kill in a hospital bed over the last few weeks, and I'm hoping you could help with some movie recommendations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only streaming service I currently have is the Criterion Channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh heavens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what are you gonna be fine?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a trial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, but I'll likely at minimum Reap my shutter account.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there any lesser known streaming services you could recommend or give me some of your favorite underseen films and criteria or other services that you recommend?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I talk it up all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to night flight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah night flight 40 bucks a year
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[SPEAKER_00]: cheap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have access not just to an entire channel of something weird video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a whole channel of severing films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a whole channel of the Vittagras syndrome video releases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are all like cult boutique outlets that have, you know, entire channels and within night flight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you'll also discover night flight itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Night flight was a show on USA back in the early
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of like new wave, they also had a lot of like interesting interviews with actors and directors and musicians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of like a kind of artist profiles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could spend weeks just on night flight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Delving into essentially just the year 1983.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you'll get like this huge dissection as to what was going on in pop music at the time, especially just off-center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All these like obscure European new wave bands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely go to night flight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, especially if you're into really bizarre underground chibi monster movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a shutter is really well curated, but night flight has a much larger selection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you like horror movies, shutter is a great streaming service to have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have genuinely good taste.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, they don't always have everything you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes they only have a handful of movies from a franchise and it's not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The obvious ones, but that's just streaming for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shutter has a pretty small library.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really well curated, and then what they have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's run by horror fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're looking for sort of the endless bottomless pit of films to choose from, Shutter is, you're going to hit bottom on Shutter, pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also going to recommend it is a service with ads, but it is a service with ads that has a whole lot of everything, and you probably heard of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called 2B.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me is the local video store that was like run out of business by your local blockbuster that had all the weird shit that blockbuster didn't have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So have all the shit that every other streaming service turned down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically like you can watch What was it like T and me the one where mr. T was like a lawyers private detective?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, you know like they'll have that you don't need that But we have that and thank God we do and they have a really good selection of weird horror movies They have surprisingly good section of classics To be warned to be is owned by the Fox corporate Yeah, and you might see a couple like right when it's like turning point in bullshit by that story
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't want to support that, just know that that's where the advertising dollars are coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, I will say that especially in the non-election year, the advertising is actually pretty unobtrusive and you're only going to see a few ads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're not going to make them that much money, but that is true and that is a fair point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also the Cartoon channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the Cartoon channel on my phone here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But right currently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: According to the website, I'm looking at 3,277 offerings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good, which is a pretty good deal, and I am just going to, and obviously we can do this all day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just going to sort of randomly scan through it, and just pluck out a few things that I recommend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First up, looks like the 39 steps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see the modern thriller get designed in front of your eyes, watch Alfred Hitchcock's The 39 Steps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not the first, like, wrong man on a Chase movie, Hitchcock had already done that, but it was the one that kind of perfected the formula, and it was a huge blockbuster at the time, and you'll still see movies ripping this off without even realizing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's still a corker like it's really, really fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I highly recommend it definitely check that out When they feel free to pop in any time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what I like about the criterion collection is they've done this more and more They they sort of group their films into little mini collections.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they've they've they call them collections Correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do I'm I'm looking just through what they have and just off of the top one just reading off here the 90s does the 70s
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so film set in the 70s made in the 90s and what what did the 1970s look like only 20 years later and has films like Booking Night's days didn't confuse summer of sand the ice storm that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great idea for a player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some are just grouped by director.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's very hard song movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's John New films.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a great, unsploitation section.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yay!
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an underrated genre.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a playlist just called, Seville Hung kicks ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, yeah, you did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's on that list?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seville Hung kicks ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Petty cab driver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great, moving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Encounters of the spooky kind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great, moving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eastern condors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great, move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The magnificent butcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a badass action movie yeah uh there's a lot of interviews with him okay and my lucky stars okay those are all really fun movies i will warn you about Samo hung though is that he is a really fun director a really fun actor and an amazing martial artist in choreographer
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he has a streak, especially in his early movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll find just randomly popping up some sexism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this all of a sudden, this scene got really sexist for a minute, or this scene got a little racist for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's very unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not necessarily the backbone of what he does, but it was a different time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you might run into a scene and it's like, well, that one's, oh good, he's fighting again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, be warned, but when he's on fire, one of the best actions will make his work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, here's where you start with the criterion channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a playlist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the site and sound poll.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just start there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the greatest films on the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're mostly you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're listed in order, starting with Jan Dillman, going to Tokyo's story, going to, or I guess they're not listed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're not all on here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they can't be on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they've surely have quite a few.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they've got a lot of films, chunking express pure of food, modern times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Start the top and work your way down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You will not not run into a stinker if you do It's gonna be something interesting to talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be still be historically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're really I'm looking here I see andville the story of Anneville.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the most fun documentaries ever filmed about a heavy metal band that didn't quite But also was
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a little too Canadian for their own good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, truly, truly lovely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to scroll down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got some media inville.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I handed inville.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A $20 bill on got their CDs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is 13.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 13th record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, they have Paul Verhoven's been a data.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's part of the non-sploitation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fucking is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the fucking cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you gotta see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That movie just kind of came in the wind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's real bummer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was kind of a return to form for Paul Verovin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little bit more of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and the ears are great, channel as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Art House Horror.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has Vampir on it, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just got a face, Gico-Coo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Colonel of Souls, I love Colonel of Souls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, any Boba face of another hour of the wolf is all great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got Bob Clark's black Christmas on here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to see that at least once with black warfias.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, black warfias when I was growing up black warfias was like a lot of people's like first introduction to international cinema.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They would like wash it in like classes because it was an adaptation of warfias.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just set in like a carnival and Brazil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Brazil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just truly wonderful filmmaking, you have to say it's absolutely delightful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep on cruising, keep on cruising.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was indeed a reference to in Scino Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't they have body of evidence?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something very strange happening in the criteria in channel where you can tell a new generation of programmers moved into the building like some younger kids and by younger kids I mean like guys my age like in their late 40s But there was a whole like 90s horror channel that had stuff like people under the stairs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well that's a good madness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are good movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the mouth of madness happens to be a personal favorite of mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: Criterion channel like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean this goes into a thesis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have trash plus time equals culture, but it is very curious that something like
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[SPEAKER_00]: body of evidence people under the stairs are like those sleazy erotic thrillers from the 90s all became much more highly respected in retrospect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm people under the stairs is not a it's not an erotic thriller and it's not even that sleazy that is West Craven at some of his most pointed political film making I'm going to go to bad for that one I think you're wrong about that body of evidence sucks it is a terrible erotic thrillers story and I use erotic loosely
1:06:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's what I will say about this, and I think this is the difference between the criterion home video, like a physical media wing, and the criterion collection, uh, the criterion channel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The criterion collection, the DVDs, the blue rays, that has an imprimature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if you make it on that list, you're not necessarily a great movie, but you're probably an important movie,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a movie from an important filmmaker or great, like to make that as a badge of honor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To make the criteria in channel, if you're on the criterion collection, you're probably there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of people movies there that are genuinely great and deserve the stamp of approval.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when they do those like curated like 90s horror movies, let's sometimes
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just filling out the list with what they can get, but I think what they're doing is they are picking films that aren't necessarily great, but are emblematic of the era.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I think if you're watching, if you wanted to watch, like, I wanna see what like a Roddick thrillers were like in the 90s,
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[SPEAKER_01]: body of evidence is not a good example of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Body of evidence is however kind of a typical example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that will be educational, but it doesn't necessarily deserve its own criteria and release.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where I would draw the line there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's keep on cruising on this mother India is on here now Oh, wow, we had trouble finding mother India I want you to watch for our Oscars probably love to see that cleaned up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been cleaned up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been restored All week two hours and 55 minutes of mother India one of the most important films in Indian history We have a podcast on our Patreon Only the best international we've been trying to review every movie ever nominated for best international feature
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[SPEAKER_01]: We get a wall on that because a lot of those movies aren't necessarily available, or if they are, they don't necessarily have an English subtitles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we hit a year, I think it was 1958, where we literally couldn't see most of the movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we found them, someone who listens to the show, was able to track them down for us and they sent us some copies, so we're gonna be able to catch up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Mother India was nominated, didn't win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a wonderful discovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a gorgeous movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fascinating melodrama.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably sad, but yeah, it's got incredible plot points, the most tragic things ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Musical numbers, because of course it does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just epic and a truly grandiose, and yet weirdly bleak way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See my other NBA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to blow your mind So glad I watched it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really really good Let's say we have keep on cruising keep on cruising I'm just kind of I'm okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Kiyoshi Kurosawa's cure That's one of the scariest movies ever made
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[SPEAKER_01]: As a movie, and I want to sit and start watching these movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyushikur's house care is what is truly amazing horror movie about a mysterious man who starts wandering around running into people and convincing those people, random strangers to kill somebody for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't know how.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And all I will say is, Kyushikur's house incorporates hypnosis, not into the plot of the film, into the film making.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually uses the principles of hypnotic, like, of a hypnotic state with the editing of the film To create like an atmosphere like truly unlike anything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is absolutely incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the it's like if Kubrick did a horror movie besides the shining That this is what the type of film me would have made.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucking great Ricky out the story for Ricky is yes You want to see a guy's head explode because he hit it too hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's a ridiculous action movie is ever made
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm really happy about this because it was not available for a long time, but Gregor Rackie's nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was sort of rescued from the ash heap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, you finished your adventure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gregor Rackie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really love nowhere, I just think it's sort of cap.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, it's set in my hometown of Santa Monica.
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like shot in places where I walked around as a kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about a kind of a drifting, endless, bisexual jerk who's just sort of wandering around
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder where I can relate to this movie, and yeah, it's, but it also has like some like a weird alien subplot and there's going to be a lot of like cameo's from people you recognize like Shen and Edward he shows up in one day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No where's really interesting film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here's a movie that we talked about in our think Godzilla it's Friday podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it wasn't a godzilla movie was an ancillary godzilla movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are movies that had giant monsters in them and that giant monster kind of connected the gods a little later But wasn't necessarily a proper godzilla movie and this was when my favorite discoveries dogara dogara is great
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dogger of fucking rules, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dogger is like a bad, like a giant Kathulu space squid that starts fucking not just go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like insubstantial ghost, like Yeah, and it starts and starts fucking with gravity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that is a damned inconvenience for the jewel themes
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[SPEAKER_01]: That have their own movie going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dogra just sort of pops in and complicate this very Awesome jewel thief movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you sure hold a wanted to make a jewel thief movie But it's like not man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to put diamantes and everything We can't sell a movie right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nearly six these and he's like damn it So we put a giant space squid in it that fucks with gravity
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fucking great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all the pieces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so damn good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're not going to do the, um, uh, the site and sound 100 list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and this is, I think the first one that Kurt here and ever put it like as a collection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just called the Central Art House.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all the ones that you missed in film school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's every all of the big like the heavy hitters and if you haven't seen all of these just cuz they're going through there Watch the ones you haven't seen give me a few examples jules and gem the gold rush smiles of a summer night Dylan man the rules of the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, clear from five to seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Jean Cotto's been in the beast the wages of fear here are some among and more possession
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, the possession finally had that list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was Andrew Nevsky, the 7th seal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Olivia's Richard III, Daisy's, the Czech film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brief encounter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: David Leane's pretty happy together by one car, why black narcissists, you kind of can't go wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't go wrong with this list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's like an indispensable syllabus to the best college course you never took.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you could watch that list and pretty much have the film education.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but my point is this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Criterine is best known for having like all the all the amazing art house movies and all the classic cinema They've also got trash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're just trash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Puring a trash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think these are these are fun monster an action movie If it's all of the criterine channel, you can find really fun shit If I'd really cool action movies, especially samurai films, you could just work your way through all the Zeta Wii G films
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a bad one in the bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all fucking great Seriously, you you'll have a wonderful time We could go on like this, but that was a fun aside and thank you and I hope you get better really really soon And I hope you enjoy the this aspect of it that you get it the opportunity to just
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[SPEAKER_01]: absorb and just discover cinema that is that is a silver lining and having not the same thing but having a once been laid up after really nasty surgery for like a month that was a very kind of formative time in my own cinema education because I had no excuse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing else I had to be doing at that moment I just absorbed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: so i hope you discover something fun i hope you discover something that blows your mind i hope you have a good time i hope you're you feel enriched and nourished and more than anything else i hope you get better soon because that sounds really rough so uh we're rooting for you uh please let us know how it goes
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