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PATRICE-SC BOOKGAL & FRIENDS live on Da Crew Podcast & Media Network EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT 8PM EST!!! · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Legs and gentlemen, may I have your attention please? The
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  Speaker 1: show starts in ten line eight seven hard cool.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you guys, it is another Tuesday night and you
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  Speaker 2: are with me. Mss sci book out a four three
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  Speaker 2: Patrece Grymple, and I'm happy. I'm good. I'm remotely on vacation,
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  Speaker 2: not vacation, but it's like a semi vacation. I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: in a conference in South Carolina, you guys, and I
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  Speaker 2: am so excited. I have learned so much in the
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  Speaker 2: past two days, and what I've learned from them, I
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  Speaker 2: am going to bring it to the podcast and give
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  Speaker 2: you guys some nuggets. You guys can know what's going on,
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  Speaker 2: but look forward to that. But we're going to bring
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  Speaker 2: y'all a new author in a new book, and I
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  Speaker 2: hope you're ready. I hope you're ready cause see me
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  Speaker 2: and this lady has been buying behind the screens. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you guys. She has her own podcasts, she has her
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  Speaker 2: own literary magazine that she's working with, and she got
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  Speaker 2: this book, y'all. This book. I'm telling y'all, y'all know
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  Speaker 2: when I say this book, what y'all know? But being
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  Speaker 2: wild and free, Between wild and free? Do you not
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  Speaker 2: know the things you can get into within words? All right,
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  Speaker 2: let's bring her on up. Come on up, miss Joy,
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  Speaker 2: Come on up. We're gonna talk about between wild and Free.
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  Speaker 2: How are you good? Good? How are you? Thank you
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  Speaker 2: for having me? Thank you, thank you for being with
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  Speaker 2: us tonight. So before we get into between Wild and Free,
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  Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about yourself. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I am an indie author at the moment. This is
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  Speaker 2: my first book that I've written. I have always always
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  Speaker 2: known I wanted to be a writer, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what kind. So I went to college. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna be a journalist, I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 2: an English teacher. I'm going to be a novelist. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: I began writing. Oh God, when I was a teenager.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I used to do poetry, and that I
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  Speaker 2: was like, my calling is for fiction, which I love,
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  Speaker 2: which doesn't get the respect it deserves. But I've been
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  Speaker 2: writing fiction since I was a teenager. And then I
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  Speaker 2: started sharpening my skills as an adult, taking writing classes
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  Speaker 2: and taking workshops and just getting better self studying as well.
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  Speaker 2: And it led to me writing my first book, which
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  Speaker 2: was a bust. It was bad. It was bad. It's
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  Speaker 2: still printed in a binder. And then I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's identify the problems and let's restructure. So I went.
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  Speaker 2: And then during the pandemic, that's where between Wild and
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  Speaker 2: Free came to life. So it was it was quite
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  Speaker 2: a journey and it was worth it. Oh this a pandemic, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know, something had to happen. We were boomed.
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  Speaker 2: What wasn't me? Because I got turned on a hand Hamilton?
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, now, I love me some. I am a geeky.
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  Speaker 2: I love Hamilton, I love plays, I love all of that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh say you wonder? Okay, I'm sorry, digress, digressing. Don't
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  Speaker 2: try being an author while you're young, like those teenage years.
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  Speaker 2: Who were your thoughts about it? I mean, what did
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  Speaker 2: you write about? You know? What's funny? I was reading
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  Speaker 2: books that I should not have been reading since I
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  Speaker 2: was like eleven. I was that kid. Whenever you saw me,
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  Speaker 2: I always had a book in my hand. From when
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  Speaker 2: I was a little girl. I mean I used to
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  Speaker 2: walk to school like this and across from God would
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  Speaker 2: cross me and I wouldn't look up. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: was that person, so I would read anything, and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: that meant adult stuff. And so even as a teenager,
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  Speaker 2: although I didn't necessarily understand the deep mechanisms of the
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  Speaker 2: things I'm reading, just on the surface, that was what
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  Speaker 2: my writing reflected. You know. It was like maybe people
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  Speaker 2: my age but going through relationship stuff was like, girl,
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  Speaker 2: you're fourteen, You ain't worrying about loving no man, you
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  Speaker 2: ain't never been kissed, and you just were reading to read. Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, I love to read. It's my favorite pastime.
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  Speaker 2: All right, sidebar Noah, She said she was just reading
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  Speaker 2: to read. So all of y'all, people who I've talked
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  Speaker 2: about before doing that BB's y'all know exactly what I
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  Speaker 2: talk about. It ain't that serious. It's not. And it's
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  Speaker 2: from a when she was a teen. She was reading
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  Speaker 2: just to read. It wasn't nothing big, see what I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking about. Okay, So back to it. So your first
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  Speaker 2: book book you said it went bus. Why would you
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  Speaker 2: say that? I mean, I think as a writer, we
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  Speaker 2: owe it to ourselves to be honest, you know, And
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's not terrible. It's not terrible as far
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  Speaker 2: as the writing structure itself, but when you write fiction,
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  Speaker 2: it's not just about how you can string a sentence together.
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  Speaker 2: It's how your characters developed and stay in character. It's
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  Speaker 2: how to plot. You know, it thickens and everything makes
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  Speaker 2: sense and feels evenly. How your characters actually differentiate from
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  Speaker 2: one another. And I had a lot to work on,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't know that until I got done, so
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  Speaker 2: I didn't give up on it. I still have it. It's
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  Speaker 2: not speaking to me yet, but when it does, I'm
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  Speaker 2: ready to talk. So you put there, You put the
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  Speaker 2: work into your craft, which is great. I do love
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  Speaker 2: an author that. I'm just saying, character analysis, character development,
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  Speaker 2: because if a character is not developing in the story,
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  Speaker 2: there's no reason why Sally should have a dog at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the book and still have a dog
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  Speaker 2: in the book, and the dog won't get older. Shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: that dog die? Well, shouldn't the dog change? Y'all know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Hearita had to develop along the lines
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  Speaker 2: with the story, So that is great. You are putting
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  Speaker 2: in the time in your craft. Soon if you would say,
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  Speaker 2: who is your biggest fan when it comes to your books, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I love everybody, because I got people watching
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  Speaker 2: this and they might fight. I want to say. It
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  Speaker 2: is my baby sister. Oh hi, baby sister, and my
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  Speaker 2: husband like my big supporter, so much so that when
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  Speaker 2: I was writing this book, I would feed her each
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  Speaker 2: chapter when it was done for like my audience reaction
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  Speaker 2: to see if she got but I was given. She
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  Speaker 2: has been my biggest fan. She has been so excited
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  Speaker 2: for me, you know, her encouragement and her love. It's
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  Speaker 2: just it's been great. So I literally needed her throughout
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  Speaker 2: this process and I hope she knows and all future projects,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to put her through the same stress because
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  Speaker 2: I love her. So, sister, you are a beta reader. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so that's off to you. So now we're going to
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  Speaker 2: bring up this book in this cover. Tell me a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about this book cover before we get into
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  Speaker 2: the book. I love the shadowing. It gives it pure
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  Speaker 2: mystery and a heavy sense of an erotic tone undertone
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  Speaker 2: to it. You know what you are right on the money?
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  Speaker 2: Tell you yes. So, my friend who's gonna hate me
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  Speaker 2: from mentioning this, but she designed the cover from me,
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  Speaker 2: Becau because she does all that graphic design stuff that
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand. The funny part about the book the
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  Speaker 2: cover Before I get into what her relates to the book.
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  Speaker 2: That's actually her with her back to the camera. I
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  Speaker 2: did not know this. It's her silhouette. I said, that's
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  Speaker 2: I just found this out in September and this book
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  Speaker 2: has been being designed for the beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 2: And then the two characters in the back are Barbie Dolls.
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  Speaker 2: We had to make She made it work. You see,
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  Speaker 2: this is her talents. Okay, she made it work because
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  Speaker 2: I said, those are what?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: What? Mm hmm? How did she do? Okay, We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to get her to come. I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: talk to her five minutes. We could do a little
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  Speaker 2: side show. She's gonna tell me, you know what. She
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  Speaker 2: did it. And I was like, I was floored, just
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  Speaker 2: like you. But she did capture everything that I asked
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  Speaker 2: her to capture. I gave her like the world's worst
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  Speaker 2: drawing for what I saw in my head because yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I write, I don't drunk. I don't drunk. But I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you no, go ahead, Oh no, I wanted it
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  Speaker 2: to you know, I didn't want to give away the book.
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  Speaker 2: But like you said, you can see there's like tension,
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  Speaker 2: there's like erotica. There's something going on where there's a
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  Speaker 2: separation between this couple and this woman over here. But
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  Speaker 2: this woman has on a ring, and so there's the
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  Speaker 2: guy in the back. What's the you know, the correlation there.
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  Speaker 2: So it's supposed to give those kinds of thoughts. That's
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  Speaker 2: what that is. Those are the rinks. Oh very subtle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I love it. I thank you. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought they were like twinkles. But I see
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  Speaker 2: that that's exactly where it would be. You go, girl,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. So now you got to tell us a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about this book. Yeah, I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: give too much away. I want to trust someone to
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  Speaker 2: start with a disclaimer. This is not smut. There's nothing
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  Speaker 2: wrong with smut, but this isn't that. Okay. It starts
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  Speaker 2: off very spicy, but the story itself doesn't. It isn't
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  Speaker 2: just a sexual erotic story. It is about a woman
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  Speaker 2: going on a journey because we are living in a
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  Speaker 2: time I think where a lot of overt wildness is
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  Speaker 2: what's accepted, it's what's expected. And when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: maybe wanting more traditional values, you looked at as vanilla
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  Speaker 2: or you know, you're not really living up to your
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  Speaker 2: true self. But it's like sometimes the traditional is someone's
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  Speaker 2: true self. You don't have to always do these crazy
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  Speaker 2: things to really express yourself. And this is a story
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  Speaker 2: of a woman going on a journey about that and
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  Speaker 2: discovering for herself the things that she's allowed herself to be.
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  Speaker 2: She has to decide is this what I actually want
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  Speaker 2: or do I want to explore something else as she's
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  Speaker 2: dealing with all of these issues revolving herself and her marriage. So,
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  Speaker 2: m and you said there's a little space. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: not a little spice. It's just not only spice. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to give away a big thing about it,
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  Speaker 2: but they definitely have a very a very untraditional sex
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  Speaker 2: life where they are much more than your average couple. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So every time an author says that I'm thinking, ah,
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  Speaker 2: what am I about to give myself into? You will
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  Speaker 2: enjoy whatever it is, I promise you your mind. So
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  Speaker 2: what made you want to write your book? What is
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  Speaker 2: there any factors in this book that said this book
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  Speaker 2: has to be written? You know, honestly, it really started off.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't starting off as a novel. I was just
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  Speaker 2: trying to teach myself to write in a voice and
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  Speaker 2: in a way that I don't think I had discovered
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  Speaker 2: throughout my writing journey. A lot of my characters were
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  Speaker 2: very reminiscent of me, and I am a very you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm loud, I'm very confident, I'm very you know,
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  Speaker 2: nothing really bothers me. But people aren't generally like that,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody isn't going to relate to that, and not
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  Speaker 2: all of my characters need to reflect that. So I
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  Speaker 2: started writing this character because she is more more meek
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  Speaker 2: than I am. She doesn't speak her mind as much
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  Speaker 2: as I do, and I wanted to be able to
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  Speaker 2: see how I could teach myself to stay in character
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  Speaker 2: when the character is unfamiliar to me. Now, that is
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  Speaker 2: a great way to learn that lesson, right. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say forcing yourself into that that box or
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  Speaker 2: in that group, but making shit, making sure you stay
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  Speaker 2: in that lane of that character, knowing that it's the
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  Speaker 2: total opposite of you. So that is very That's a
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  Speaker 2: great idea. So I have a lot of authors say
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  Speaker 2: that their characters speak to them. Do your speak to you?
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  Speaker 2: I just had this conversation because I'm bossy and my
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  Speaker 2: characters do what I tell them. I outline and they
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  Speaker 2: follow that, and you know, they don't talk to me,
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  Speaker 2: they listen to what I tell them. So I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have that happen. I don't. Oh, I see
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  Speaker 2: your characters be sitting up there talking trash. Why she
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  Speaker 2: got me doing this? And you're gonna do it and
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna like it. That's how I feel. But it
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  Speaker 2: works out. It works out. So tell us about your
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  Speaker 2: female character, her name, her drive, a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: her backstory. Okay, so the female character, the main character,
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  Speaker 2: her name is Deanna, and she she is in her
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  Speaker 2: early thirties. She's married to her husband, Zev. They got
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  Speaker 2: married in place of her going to college, like she
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  Speaker 2: was there but she didn't really know what she was doing,
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  Speaker 2: kind of just flittering along. She is one of those
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  Speaker 2: women that got caught up in the love and allowed
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  Speaker 2: that to be her life. And because of these wild
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  Speaker 2: secrets that they have, it's kind of really put her
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  Speaker 2: in a place of isolation when it comes to having
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  Speaker 2: a full life. And so she's we meet her in
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  Speaker 2: a story where she's ready for something more, something different,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and with her husband, she wants to grow,
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  Speaker 2: she wants a family, you know, she miss having friends,
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  Speaker 2: and she's kind of going through the motions of understanding
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  Speaker 2: that for herself and being able to admit it and
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  Speaker 2: seeing where she lands with that. You know, she she
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  Speaker 2: isn't a bad person, but she doesn't necessarily speak her
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  Speaker 2: mind in the way that she needs to. She doesn't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily put herself the way that she should, and she's
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  Speaker 2: starting to realize maybe I should reaprioritize a lot of
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  Speaker 2: my decisions. Oh and how about this man just in
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  Speaker 2: the background. He is my most controversial character. Okay, right now, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: like my family and friends and the people who have
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  Speaker 2: read it, there are debates on both sides. Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: can't get into it. I get cursed out. Let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you, I get cursed out. I think I know
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  Speaker 2: the man too well because I'm like, whoa, it's not this, No,
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  Speaker 2: it is all right, all right, And that's the best.
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  Speaker 2: That is the best. When you have people that argue
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  Speaker 2: you down about your characters, that means you're doing something correct.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you're telling me now, I'm gonna read this one,
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  Speaker 2: you guys, man, I ain't got no problem in boxing
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  Speaker 2: you why that you're thinking and who you please with?
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  Speaker 2: I have no problem doing it. Tell you you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm here for it. I can take it. I can
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  Speaker 2: take it. So give me the best you got. But yes, so,
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  Speaker 2: but tell us a little bit about him, his name,
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  Speaker 2: his backstory. Okay, so his name is zev which is
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  Speaker 2: suret for ze Vender. I wanted a name that I
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  Speaker 2: never heard of, so I just made it up. Nothing
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  Speaker 2: significant there, but I made it up. Thank you God
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  Speaker 2: reading Bob Damian de kwon another one. I'm starting to
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  Speaker 2: see Exodus. Why y'all bring the Exodus to the book. Yes, creative,
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  Speaker 2: he is. He is very much the man I am
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  Speaker 2: man hearing me roar, and you will do what I
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  Speaker 2: say without being unbearable about it. You know, when you
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  Speaker 2: contrasted with her character, she's the exact type of personality
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  Speaker 2: that he can thrive in without having to really show
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  Speaker 2: muscle because she's not pushing back. So but he is
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  Speaker 2: very much I will do this and you will follow,
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  Speaker 2: but I will also provide for you. And these are
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  Speaker 2: the things we're gonna do. And he's amazing and which
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  Speaker 2: is very important to the story. Oh, it's very important, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: She dropping hints, and you know she dropped little hints
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  Speaker 2: on this book. So I'm not even gonna say it,
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  Speaker 2: but I think I might see some cheating. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why I got a feeling for a three way
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  Speaker 2: coming in this book. All I'm gonna say is you
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  Speaker 2: will be surprised. I will say this, and I can
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  Speaker 2: say this with full confidence. Okay, it's not cocky. It
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  Speaker 2: this is you will be surprised at the direction this takes.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say. And I love books like that.
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  Speaker 2: I love books where I think I'm going straight. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I think this is about if he goles
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  Speaker 2: just left curve where that comes from? I love books
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  Speaker 2: like that. I won't say I hate, but it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to it's hard to like books where you can go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and predict it end of the book. My chapter four.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be in chapter three scratching my head
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  Speaker 2: writing down characters names because I want to remember who
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  Speaker 2: did what and why they did and who they did
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  Speaker 2: it too, and how they did it. So I love that,
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  Speaker 2: love that, loved that. Why of all the books should
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  Speaker 2: I read your book? Well, you are a librarian who
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  Speaker 2: now loves books, and this is a book that you
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  Speaker 2: will love. It will keep you engaged, you will feel
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  Speaker 2: also represented because I am a black woman and my
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  Speaker 2: main character is a black woman, and while we may
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  Speaker 2: be different on different levels, we all can relate on
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  Speaker 2: some level. And it's an amazing story. I will give
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  Speaker 2: It's an amazing story. It's going to capture, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to make you think. It's not straightforward. You will be
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  Speaker 2: able to determine your own thoughts. I'm not feeding you
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  Speaker 2: what you should think, and I was really careful to
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  Speaker 2: not do that. I didn't want to write with a BIA,
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  Speaker 2: which was another challenge I had given myself in addition
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  Speaker 2: to the character challenge. I didn't want to write with
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  Speaker 2: a bias. I wanted you to make your own decision.
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  Speaker 2: But these are the facts, and I think something that
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  Speaker 2: will make you think a little bit will really uphel
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  Speaker 2: to you. I love that. I love that you let
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  Speaker 2: the reader come up with an opinion. Some authors are
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  Speaker 2: losing that in their books. They are trying to create
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  Speaker 2: the opinion for you. And that's okay, not saying that's wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but for a reader like me, I'd like to make
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  Speaker 2: my own opinion to tell you, I hate your character,
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  Speaker 2: but I love you book. I love that. That's just
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  Speaker 2: one of the things I like to do. And if
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  Speaker 2: you really get me like that, then you got me
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: for good. No, I can't wait for you to view
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: it's I can't wait because I'm talking a lot of junkie.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I gotta live up to it, right. I think I
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: got this. I think I think you're gonna be happy.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: So remember we talked off stage and I told them
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I have those fun questions. Well, my friend, it's time
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: for you to sit in the hot seat. Oh God,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: at the top of the screen. So we all know
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: that female characters can be very, very strong headed. So
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take two of the famous female characters that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: everybody picks, Angela Bassett, Toweragi p Hanson. You cannot choose them, Okay, yep,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: yep yeah. So if you can choose any female actress
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to play the main character in your book between Wold
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and three, who would she be? And why? You know what?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: How dare you? Okay? Okay, all right, I'm gonna try
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to be quick, although I'm drawing a blank, but I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: got something for you, Okay. I was thinking on this
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and I did get a suggestion that I think Mike
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: could work. And what's her name? The Wanda Wise she
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: played in she's it's the spike Ly Show on Netflix.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: She got the light eyes and she's dark skinned. Is
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it she's gotta have it? Or is she? Okay? You
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: got me stumped? Oh, y'all me, y'all know me that
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I am right now the library and me she's gotta
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: have it. Yeah, it's the Wanda why she was in
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: also the Jurassic Park movie, the Black Lesbian Girl, you
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: know the one, the one? Oh? Okay, Yeah, I'm thinking
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: like her. I see that, I can see. So why
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: did you choose her? I think it's based on the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: characters that she's played. You know, she can she comes
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: across quiet, although she does have a presence, and I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: think that would be perfect for Deanna. And she's also
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: not shy about antics. That's what we gotta call it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And I think this might I think that might be
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: great there, I think, so we have this character for Deanna.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: But you know, all good movies, you gotta have a soundtrack.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: What would be the soundtrack to the book between them? Oh?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And then then it has to be a twenties well,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: twenties two thousand, No, you know what, We're gonna bring
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: it back. So you guys know, we all were sitting.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: The majority of us were sitting in our house looking
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: at the verses this past weekend okay with no limit
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: versus cash money? You watch I didn't want it. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: know I didn't watch it. I took the weekend off
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: from life. I'm sorry, listen. I only called a little
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: bit of it what I was reading. I didn't mess much.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: But let's say the song to your soundtrack has to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: be a twenties rap song. Two thousand rap songs between
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: those two groups, what would it be that is? I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: know I got you? Now you really did. I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: even really listen to much rap music. I'm an R
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: and B girly all day. They do have some R
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and B songs between them, because you know, master F
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: did I got the hook up? And Lord yeah, girl
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: you kind of got me? Didn't do any R and B?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Did I work up in the hot seat? Am I am?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I on fire? Because I I don't have an answer
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: for this, because I don't think any of that works.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I think of more like the old school soundtracks from
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: like the movies I grew up on, you know, like
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: it just feels more that way, even though it's a
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: little more like sexy you know, we grew up on
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: like what's called love and basketball and I Love Jones
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and things like that. Those signs to soundtracks is probably
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: where I would go. Okay, so let's go there, let's
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: go to sit down. You went in to nineties R
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and B and nineties are you got plenty of our
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: some trouble back in the days we've been only in
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: high school, couldn't tell us we've been in love. So
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: what song would be the title track to your book?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Between Wilder Meat? Like? What nineties R and B song? Oh,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling like something by Mary J. I don't know why,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm feeling something about Mary J because she was
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: kind of going through it and then you know, later
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: on life we see her getting up. So she's got
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: so much like my life, Like I'm that might be
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it J in my life. That's I'm gonna say, just
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: give the whole album. I'm stealing an album. I'm so sorry.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Marriage is my life album. I think we all back
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: in those days have sung. We hadn't know what we singer,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: but we were going down. You didn't tell us when
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the little boy didn't pick us or we didn't get
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: our little sometimes day Giff and everybody else. We were
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: singing that song in the background calling their house on
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the Star six to nine. Y'all, y'all, what y'all know
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: about that star? Six to make sure you undo the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: star six months? Yes, and then you used to write
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a little bad note you are not we are not
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: mm when you break up with your boyfriend. Oh you
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: cut like because you thought you were so cute, Like
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you need a dance because you cut like. I remember
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: giving a guy back his letterman's jacket. I don't even
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: want when you steak jacket, no more. I want that jacket.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I asked you a special walking around you know. Yeah,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: we had you guys. We just told all of our age. Okay,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: so my life Mary j blind soundtrack. But guess what
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Lifetime said. They love your character, They love the soundtrack,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and they want to do a movie about you. So
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: who anybody, it does not matter who it is. Would
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: you give the honor of playing you in your biopic?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Ooh ooh, I'm feeling like, can I marry two characters
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: some film? Like I got like partis you got some
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: biple of this? I am a Gemini. I am a Gemini.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: He he everybody, Hey, that's the right boy. These two
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: sides that come their handsy. I feel like me could
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: be like sonohilate that and the other side could be
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you know, because I am just as awkward. That is
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: a This would be a great movie. I would I
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: would watch that. I would love to see them do
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: a comedy movie together because you know, both of them
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: are great characters. Who was the one where uh the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: young girl and it's not little but little? Yes, I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: would love to see Sonilas and Eastern ray through little.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: That would be that would happen to be awesome with
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Oh, that would be. That was my idea.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So if y'all looking at that, that was my idea.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I want my cut in the deal. So before we end,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: what would you like to say to your old readers,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the readers you are gaining tonight, and the readers that
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: will watch the replay of this podcast. What would you
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: like to say to them? Well, first of all, I'd
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like to say thank you, thank you for tuning in here,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and thank you for reading my book. If you have,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: thank you for thinking about it. If this is convention,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and thank you for going forward and actually doing it later,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: If I hope that this gives you as much pleasure
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to read as it gave me to write it. It
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: took me forever. Just ask my cousin because she was
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: on my back. But I do not think you will
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: hate it. I think you will love it. And I
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: think sometimes we do have to read just because it
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: is thrilling. So I appreciate that reading to take your
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: mind off of what's going on today is beautiful. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: mean because if you're sitting up here and you watch TV,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: if you're sitting up here and you're listening to the radio,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: if you're sitting up here and you're reading newspaper, you're
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: going to become depressed. Yes, it's a list if you
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: this reading is just like some other other people's form
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: of music. For me, I can do reading and music,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and I really do love to reading, especially once you
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: eat book and I can sit on the desk at
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: work and read the book. Yes, you know what I'm saying.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: So give us to rundown because we want to be
• 31:01
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• 31:06
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• 31:10
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• 31:13
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• 31:22
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• 31:45
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• 31:47
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• 31:52
  Speaker 2: of course if you want to see something other than
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  Speaker 2: my book, I do write for the Brownstone Magazine. Our
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: second issue is coming out on October thirtieth. It's for
• 32:02
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• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the book? Is it? Is it out already? The book
• 32:45
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  Speaker 2: dot com right now, and this weekend everything should be
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: launching so that it can be available for e book
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• 32:59
  Speaker 2: a barn to Noble or is it going to be
• 33:01
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• 33:05
  Speaker 2: But I will give more when it's more solid because
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: it is still in the uploading and all of that phase.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: But it will be Barnes and Noble as well as Amazon,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: and then I'll be more vocal about it when it's
• 33:15
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• 33:19
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• 33:24
  Speaker 2: when it comes out on ebooks if you're one of
• 33:25
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• 33:29
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• 33:33
  Speaker 2: paper back. I know we really haven't talk much about
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble. But Barns and Noble is trying to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: make a comeback. You know that I have to min
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Amazon kind of slipping. You gotta pay attention Amazon kind
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: of slipping. And there's some authors that are actually drawing
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: away from Amazon because Amazon is wanting to get more royalty,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: so they trying to get more of the cut. And
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: why are they trying to get more to cut? Because
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of indie authors are saying, Hey, we're gonna
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: go to Amazon and books op book. But guess what,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: there are other places other than Amazon. And you heard
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: it from me, so y'all go ahead and sleep on
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble. Man. But I've seen a lot of
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: indie authors are now heading over to the Barnes and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Noble world before they go to the Amazon world. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I just recently saw that trend that want to say
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: about maybe the past three four months that I've had
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of authors say my book is on Barnes
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and Noble and I'm like, well, hold up Barnes and Noble.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: That's like, yeahs on Barnes and Noble. Oh you don't
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: do Amazon. No. And that's all because my Amazon started
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to get more of a cut, and authors are like, no,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: we know our work. We're going to Amazon. And another
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: one this is the old one, but a lot of
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: people are going to Lulu smash Words. I'm not hearing
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: much of a grinding about smash Word, but I know
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Lulu was coming. And there's a another one I've heard,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and I've heard that one today and I can't remember.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I got written down here some boys that I was
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: gonna do some research. But you guys, don't worry, because
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, we're gonna be doing some little excerpts.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Y'all find it on my YouTube plannel channel, and we're
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: gonna be talk We're gonna be talking to some indie
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: office and giving y'all some some more avenues to get
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: those revenues. Okay, So, miss Joy, I would lad to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: thank you for being with me tonight. Thank you so
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: much for having me. I really appreciate it. This has
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: been a ton of fun. So you're gonna have fun today,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: you good guys. Go grab a copy of Between Wild
• 35:43
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• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And if you are an ebook person, like I said,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated y'all, go ahead and grab a coffee.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: What you're gonna wait for? Just go ahead and grab
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: a copy. Okay, listen to you know about you guys.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: This is another Tuesday night in the book. I'm going
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to be home next week. I miss my baby girl,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: but she know mommy is out here trying to make
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: sure that these black authors get the recognition that they need.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Next week, I'm going to have author Neely with me.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: She just conferred tonight. I am so excited. I did
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: a blog with her, and now me and her are
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: going to talk face to face next Tuesday night at
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: eight o'clock. But you guys, you know what next week? Tuesday? Right?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: You know what day that is, right, y'all don't know
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: it's November Fred, It's election day. So listen here. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: do not have any elections that are going on where
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I live, Okay, but I am going to be a
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: poll worker or now I'm going to do my due
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: jailing things. But don't start complaining when things don't happen. Okay.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Remember we were telling people what was going to happen
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: when the little Orange man got to the seat. Now
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: they're seeing for itself. So I know we took back
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the we ain't doing it. It's on y'all action. But
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: now we got to put a little action into you guys.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Next week, get out and vote. Okay, get out and vote.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: We have to make the changes now if we want
• 37:35
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• 37:38
  Speaker 2: lot of people think that the change happens on that
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: national level. Novable. It starts at your city, in your state,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and then it makes its way up. There are a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: lot of state senate races, people getting tired, people getting
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: tired of having people be in office for years in
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: years in years. Y'all ain't doing that. We get so,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you guys, as much as I love the books, I'm
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: gonna tell y'all, we need to get out there. We
• 38:16
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• 38:30
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• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Remember there's no such thing as an old book because
• 38:37
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