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ITB: Can The Eagles Overcome These Significant Injuries To Beat Buccaneers? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on?
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Everybody is Jeff Moser, Adam Kaplan here for another inside
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: the Birds in the middle of the week, and man, Adam,
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: most of us in our position, even Eagles fans, you
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: get to Wednesday, you know the team's going to reconvene
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: for practice, and what you want to see is if
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: guys got hurt in the last game, like who's there,
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: who's not going to be there? And Lane Johnson was
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: the guy that for me, you know, I kept wondering,
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: how is he going to be able to practice? He
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: had the neck injury, he came out. It was a
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: big storyline in the game. Lo and behold Adam Lane Johnson.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: He seems to be the least of the Eagles injury
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: concerns at the prible. He's one of the healthier guys
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: who has an injury. And it got pretty bad there
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: with all the injuries and transactions that came about from
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: the Goose injury situation.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: And then of course on the other side, the Bucks
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: are pretty banged.
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: Up too, not as bad as Eagles, but it was
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: the opposite before when we started the week. But now
• 1:09
  Speaker 3: you mention it, it's really weird, like the Eagles are
• 1:13
  Speaker 3: playing the Bucks the same exact week and same exact
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: Thomas last year, Week four, one pm Eastern. Yes, and
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: you know Eagles had the mash unit both starting receivers out,
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: lj olt Soline Johnson. So it's really odd. I don't
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: understand it. And then the Bucks, you know, they've they've
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: got two new injuries. We'll get to all that and wap,
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: did you not what the matchups look like in a minute,
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's a shame. It's too bad that
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: both teams are in full strength, but it's weak four.
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: By the way, that is the story of this series.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: It's sort of like the way it is with the
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: Cowboys and Eagles that very rarely are Jalen Hurts and
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott healthy for that game. They were this year
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: because it was Week one. But if you go back
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: to Eagles Bucks last year when the Eagles played the
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: Bucks and lost, I believe they were without Lane Johnson,
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown and DeVante Smith. The Bucks also had several
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: guys that didn't play in that game. I think they
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: didn't have Kelijah Canty along with that, which, by the way,
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: he's out for the year.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: I believe for them, right.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: Correct, he is, yeah, towards up totally.
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: And then you remember the game, the playoff game that
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: Josh Sweat. Remember he had a weird stomach issue and
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: he night before the game or something and he could.
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: Actually data game. Well, what happened was right before uh
• 2:17
  Speaker 3: the inactives, he they they got, they put out the
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: word that he's got this illness, and it was kind
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: of scary, to be honest with, you come out of nowhere. Yeah,
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: and uh but no, you're a good memory. That's exactly
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: what happens. So yeah, it is weird. It is weird.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the Eagles all of a sudden like there
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: and we've said this over the year, so this or
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: eighth season doing it the dreaded pop up injuries which
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: were not noted during the game. Players come in, we're sore,
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: and it gets treated and unfortunately you don't know midweek
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: all the club could be optimistic, but until they see
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: the player practice for the injury, they don't know totally.
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it does suck that happened.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, so let's get into it all.
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: We'll get the injuries, we'll go inside them with a
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: mean for the team. We'll give an early word. Well,
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: we'll give a word on the Bucks injury update two
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: we got that. Before we do that, I want to
• 3:06
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• 6:54
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• 6:56
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• 7:00
  Speaker 3: The thing is that I understand look you have Saquon
• 7:03
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• 7:22
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• 7:25
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• 7:27
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• 7:31
  Speaker 3: when you're it's not Barkley's fault, they're not blocking well
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: for the run. It's just it is what it is.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: I know it's only three games. I'm sure he's going
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: to do much better, but he's averaging lesson four year.
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: It's for carry Barkley. I mean, yeah, he sawid. I
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: mean you know.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a direct result of defenses playing more guys
• 7:48
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• 7:50
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• 7:53
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• 7:56
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• 7:57
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  Speaker 1: That's trade.
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• 8:04
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• 8:07
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• 8:12
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• 8:13
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• 8:38
  Speaker 1: Right, yep, at Chicky's. Actually it was fun. He was great.
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  Speaker 2: Eagles injury updates, All right, this one was. This was
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a shock on Wednesday when it
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: all came in, But they placed three guys on injured reserve,
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: the most important well, they're all important, but obviously the
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: starter being Nolan Smith who reinjured the left triceps, the
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: one that he had surgically repaired after the Super Bowl.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Also wide receiver Darius Cooper. He hurt his shoulder in
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: We saw that, so I'm leave they've been using him
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: as kind of a blocking receiver interestingly, and also cornerback
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: to Cory and Bennett.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: They haven't said what.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: The injury is, but they are all on ir The
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: earliest they can return is week eight. With Nolan Smith,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: though I know there are some reports out there, it
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: seems like they got to make sure because we've seen
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: his twice now, got to make sure that he's fully
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: healthy and ready to go. Adam Brandon Graham tore it,
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: came back for the Super Bowl, retour in the Super Bowl.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: No Smith tears it in the Super Bowl, comes back
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: and now he's reaggravating.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: This is a tricky injury.
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. And you know, Fangio talked about it.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: His shoulder was they were trying to they were trying
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: to stay away from his left shoulder. If you remember
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: in training camp, Vic actually put that out there in
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: one of the press conferences, like, oh, that's interesting because
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: he was a little sore. So this is disappointing. Yeah,
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: it because it's a reinjury of it, and it's just
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: it's a strain, so it's got to go away. So
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: it's he's come out a number of weeks and uh,
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: we'll see uh thereby is will I think it is
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: what week nine, week nine or eight?
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I thought it was nine.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: It is nine, correct, Yeah, so very realistic. We don't
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: see him two week ten. I know Andrew put out
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: on Twitter that Cooper and uh and Bennett were not
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: surgery correct right, So that correctly. But h Bennett, by
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: the way, he got hurt late and very late in
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: the game. It's a shame, man it What is it
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: with the Bucks coming up? It's ridiculous, you know what.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: It's funny.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: I know it is because, like I said, this whole
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: Bucks thing, it's it's always when they play the Bucks.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: But the interesting thing is that I think, you know
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: Vic vic Fangio and his press conference was asked about
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: his depth, how he felt about his depth having Mac
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: McWilliams and Khilley Ringo.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: Obviously the question was without and this was.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: Tuesday, this before all the injuries came out, but it
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: was known that JA, Cory and Bennett got hurt in
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: the game, and that Dori Jackson was nursing got hurt
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: in the game too.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: That's what forced Bennett in.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: So they he was asked about it and Vic said
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: something about kill Ringo to the to the press. He said,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm I told him to keep your head up.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: You know you're not buried here. You know we're gonna
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: need you at some point. And when I heard Vic
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: say that, I said, boy, I don't know why he's
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: saying that.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, he's he's gonna plays.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Three guys ahead of him. But now Vic was basically saying,
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: this guy's gonna have to play. Yeah, he did battling
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: the injuries that we didn't know about at the time.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: Well, he knew on Monday what the situation was. He
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: knew who was hurt for the public did in media.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: So it's it's interesting, man, They're they are paper thin,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: paper thin at corner. I mean literally, Uh, it's kind
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: of weird, but it's just that it's all happening at
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: the same time. But yeah, so what they did was
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: so they put the players you said, on IR and
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: then what they did is this is interesting. Kim Latou
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: now as signed off the practice squad, so he's actually
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: on the fifty three. So he's now on the on
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: the fifty three. Marcus EPs who had no elevations left,
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: he's on the fifty three. And Parry Nickerson was on
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: the practice squad, so who could play Nickel? He can
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: play outside if you want. He's kind of like more
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: like a fourth or fifth corner competitive guy. Vic Hadham
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: in Miami two years ago. Uh So that was interesting,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: and then this one was interesting. Quiz Watkins old Frank
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Quis Watkins to the practice squad. He knows the scheme,
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: and Stixon knows it, Eli Rix knows it. By the way,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: they didn't work any players out through Wednesday, and there's
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: a reason because they could always do it at any time,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: but they knew what they Watkins knows the scheme, you know,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: it's a coach's knows the terminology. Dixon was here in
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: the summer, and Rix knows the scheme. He was in
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: the summer. So if they have to play, if they're elevated,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: ticular Dixon and Rix. Uh, they they know what they're doing.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Now again, it depends on who's gonna avail, But who's
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: not going to be available. They'll know that after Friday's practice.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Teams generally know from what I'm told, after Friday's practice,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: they don't. And what happens, they have a personnel meeting
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: on Friday night and then they also do it Saturday
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: night determine who's going to be inactive. But also they
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: have to four pm Eastern to uh make the roster
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: myth for this week. And also they're moved. They're they're
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: flying to Tampa on on on Friday, so we'll have
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: a we'll have more information even then. Also when we
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: do our pre our pregame show.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at the Nickerson signing and I think
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: to myself, that is Vic preparing for the the off
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: chance that with the injuries at corner that he may
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: have to play cooper to Jean Outside. Yeah, and maybe
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: not ready yet to just hand the reins over to
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: mac McWilliams, who really isn't playing that much so far
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: early in the season.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mac mcwim's is really not contributing. So yeah, the
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: the all break glass we talked about with their Patreon
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: members over the summers that their thought process was, if anything,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: it was push, come to shove. If they had to
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: they would put the Jane at corner again if they
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: had to. Well, we're almost there right now, right because
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: let's let's kind of look at we gotta look at this.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: This is we talked to talk about Perry Nickerson, who
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Vick knows obviously. You know, he had a good training camp.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: So right now, your healthy corners are que gwine On, Mitchell,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Kivy Ringo. And I'm saying, who's healthy.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Mc McWilliams and Parry Now, yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So you've got Nickerson, Mitchell mc williams and Ringo.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: So their paper thin right now at corner.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't want to overbeat this drum,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: but I mean, clearly the Eagles are going out early
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: because they are sensitive to it too with the whole weather.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: But this is like the worst game to play when
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you're thin like that, because guys are going to cramp up.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, we see it all the time, and it's
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: that heat and humidity is such an advantage for the
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: South Florida teams in September and October. If the Eagles
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: start cramping up or suffer injuries, that that's even worse.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And I feel again, I feel like there's always injuries
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: when these two teams play down there in Raymond James Stadium.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So let's get into the yeah.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Real quick, Yeah all right, so I'm able to I
• 17:41
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• 17:44
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• 17:47
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• 17:51
  Speaker 3: game and of game ninety degrees. Now last year was
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: ninety two a kickoff? Yeah, I looked that up. So
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: yeah it is.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Can you get the field like? Because to me, that's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: more important.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Just that right call, hang on, hang on, I'll do.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you two things. Feels like ninety seven.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Oh humanity not too bad to start at six at
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: sixty percent? Yeah, it's actually not too human. That's the
• 18:14
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• 18:16
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• 18:19
  Speaker 1: What a ref?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I tapped him and he kind of fell over? Yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I mean clearly he was. He was now he was
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: feeling the impact there. But Adam, let's let's throw a
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: third thing into that. The field temperature is always hotter
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: than the outside temperature by sometimes five to six degree.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but they always say, man,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: it's like ninety eight outside but one o three on
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know why that is. Maybe because there the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: sun shines directly on there's nothing obstructing it. I don't know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But if it's gonna be ninety if you're telling me
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be ninety seven, like that's what the feels like,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: is yeah, And if you could tack three on four
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: on because it's like one hundred on the field, that's
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that's rough man, that's care Yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And no, it's funny because vic Vic had seven edgereshers
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: at one point at this season. But it's who's going
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: to be available. We'll get to that in a second.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: They've got they've got some problems here and then we
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: got more pop ups. Uh, so let let's go through
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: this injury port.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: You want to say, wait, can we do before we
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: get into the draw?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I want, I just I want to go back to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Nolan Smith though, because I don't want I don't want
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: this to get lost. So with him being out, the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: rotation to it looks like this, it's Jaylex Hunt and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it's Zadarius Smith and Josh Ucha probably now we'll see
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: if he's yeah, yeah, well we'll see if Ojalari finally
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: gets inactive where maybe obo Ok, well we'll see. But
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: someone I was asked this on ninety seven three our partners, Uh,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: where we do football.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: For and of all the it's not that I don't
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: think it's a big injury.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: It is, but it's not like the Edges group in
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: general was playing so great that you lose him, you're
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: in trouble. I think Zadarius Smith will probably see the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: biggest uptick in playing time and it wouldn't surprise me
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: if in a game like this where you do want
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to keep guys for if it was.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Like thirty three. Yeah, but I.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Hear it the best Edge. I mean he also he
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: plays the run. Well, I don't see it the way
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: you do. I know what you're talking about. Their their
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: pestlers has been bads so far.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: No, I wasn't saying I'm not saying it's not an impact,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: but I'm saying like they haven't made enough of an
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: impact to say it's I know, but.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: You don't want to, you don't want, you don't want
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: to be without He's their best player overall at Edge,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: just because he plays the run. Well, he's taking his
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: game at another level. I know so far they've been
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: quiet in their group, and Zadarius Smith, who had a
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: great Week one, was not as effective. Jalen Carter was
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: not as effective last week. That's what the ape showed.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So they've they've got a problem.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: It's well, let me ask you this, honestly, do you
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: think Nolan Smith at this stage of his career is
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: a better player than Zadarius Smith at this stage of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: his career. Well, I don't think the drop off is
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: that big, to be honest. I mean, they're a really
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: good year last year.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: He did, but Nolan had a really good year. Zadarius
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: did a good job. That did not want to keep
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: him because it was cash zaid Darius is way bigger physically,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: but Nolan is a pretty complete player. He's not He's
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: not as savvy as Zadarius or bgr but he brought
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: his game up to another level. I know, no one
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: on their edge group is really consistent. It's a problem.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Uche is quick, He's got quick, so you pointed out
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Greg's pointed it out. Conquero is not really played, not
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: a factor. Patrick Johnson was a great story in training camp,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: but you know, he's very limited. Noche Lari quite frankly
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: does not look like the player he was last year
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: with the Giants. So I don't know, man, it's but
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: but there is a silver lining. We'll get to the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Bucks injuries. They're decimated on their offensive line. Oh my god,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: this is the time to play the box though.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Offensive line problem absolutely are all right, so we'll see.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I guess you're right.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to minimize Nolan Smith, but I see
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the corner situation as much more dire.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: It's way worse. Oh yeah, he was have bodies at edge.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: They just don't have a good edgry just not getting
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to the quarterback. And that's why Vic as much as
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: he does like the blitz.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: You gotta do it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Vick's out of his comfort zone. But he's had to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: bring pressure. That got some. But uh yeah, cornerback is
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: dire right now.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: It is dire, all right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: So the injury report, so these are the guys who
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: are not on it, are you.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Know, we'll go through that. So good news on two fronts.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Will Shipley was able to practice in full on Wednesday,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: so that's great news for him being able to get
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: back and we'll see if he can continue that throughout
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the week. And Lane Johnson, who I mentioned at the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: top of the show, limited on Wednesday, calling it a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: neck slash stinger.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: We always we're going to say this till we're blue
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in the face.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: If you're limited Wednesday, it's then important to see how
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: is how do you respond to that limited practice? What
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: do you like on Thursday? And can you get out
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: there on Friday? And so far I take it as
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a good sign at him that at least he got
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: out there on.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he felt that he'd be able
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: to get cleared by Friday. These stingers, I'm not saying Landady,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: we're close to Jordan Howard's and ed Jordan Howard's career,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: but you always worry about that. We wish Lane, uh
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: feeling the best. So and then all right, here you
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: go the pop up injuries, both starting Ilb's as calls
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: him John Kimbell, the triceps, Zach Bond with the knee.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: They were at practice, but they didn't practice, so that's, uh,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: we got to see what happens here. Triceps has got
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: to be able to tackle, be able to grab, and uh,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: that's something you gotta watch. And then Zach Bond with
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: the knee was wearing a sleeve if that was noticed
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: about practice and Duey Jackson, he he did some he
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: did before practice work, but he did not work in
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: practice with the prius. But he's in the uniform. And finally,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Dorry Jackson, by the way, next week, he's eligible to
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: start practicing, so we'll see what happens. Tanner McKee did
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Who's eligible to start practicing next week? Nakobek I'm sorry, gotcha?
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Gotcha? Yeah, but a Deuts Jackson not Deuts Jackson again
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: didn't participate in part of a practice technically, but he
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: did work to start and next week na Kobe Dean,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Kobe Dean is eligible to start practicing. And boy who
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: knows now with these well, well again we'll learn more
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the rest of the week. But man, this is not
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: good with with who's.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Their week five game again? The refreshment?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: The Giants?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: With the Broncos.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Broncos at home by the way, so smile mon and
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: trot Junior or the backup ILB. So yeah, that's where
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: you're at there, and that's why they signed Lance Stixon
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: back because they knew they had injuries.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm no doctor, and I'm not
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: going to try to play one.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: But you've been saying this for a while and I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: totally agree with you.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Just because you're out there at practice coming off a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: major injury does not mean you're you're three days away,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: three practice away from getting out in the field. I mean,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Nikobe is way behind, you would think as far as
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the ticking.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And you know, if he's I have a hard time
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: seeing him being ready to play against the Broncos.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I mean I'd be shocked, not to shocked, shot out
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: of my mind. Yeah, they but once he starts practicing,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: if he does next week, they'll have twenty one days
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: to make a decision whether he comes back. Right, there's
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: an acclamation period you need to get and I know
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: what Vic was talked about it. He made fun of
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: the NFL's acclamation period. But no, but you just have
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: he's got to get used to be on grass and practice. Right. Yes,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: they know from a rehab standpoint where he is, but
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: they don't know from a practice standpoint because he hasn't
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: practiced since last season.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Right, Right.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And then, by the way, it's a short turnaround after
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the Broncos for the Giants Thursday night, so that worked
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: against nakobea Is. I would think Viking's earliest October nineteen.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, again, I'm not trying to play doctor here,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: so all right, so that's a dire situation. If John
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Campbell and Zach Bond, I would say, even if one
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of them can't.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Play, it's pretty right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Although I let you know, we listen, I think Jeremiah
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Trier Junior can get in there do a nice job.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: He hasn't really played extensively, but we know that the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: coaches like him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But well, from what we've seen.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: From Campbell and Baughn and how athletic they are, it's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: it's hard if those guys.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Come off the field. It's it's really tough for them, man,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It is. So, uh, we'll see, well, hopefully they'll be
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: better news Friday, because yeah, you get with all this
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: going on, they got to see when these guys are
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be ready. So go ahead.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, for those who've already seen
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: inside the tape or if not the defensive part, you
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: can listen to Greg Cosel break down the issues and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: run defense they were not. I looked at every single
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: run myself that was five yards or more. This was
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: not a linebackers issue. This was more of a defensive
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: line issue getting moved Carter Jordan Davis, I know, but
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what are talking about? Jord Days
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: made these all these great plays in the fourth quarter.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yes he did, he absolutely did. But for the first
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: three quarters, those guys did not make plays. They were
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: moved out of gaps, and that made linemen get up
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: to the second.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Level and cover up the linebackers.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: The bad tackling on the edges, from from the gene,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: from everybody.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Actually, well, they targeted the gene, they targeted the slot.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: It was really interesting with their with their run scheme,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: the rams. Yeah, and Carter was a non factor until
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, where you obviously play better. But yeah, Carter,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: what he struggles with is which we talked about a
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: year ago, actually over the summer, when someone I'm pretty
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: close to in the league with another team told me
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: that because it's his job, he was assigned the Eagles.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: He said, Carter, he just can't it. Really struggles against
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: double teams. Not that it's easy one on one's impossible
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: to block because he's so strong and physical. But double
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: teams man the most double team defensive tack of the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: NFL last season. He's still getting it again. But the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: cool thing is he was relentless and he finally became
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that factor you needed in the fourth quarter.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have a story on Philly Voice dot com
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: by the time people are listening to this. I did
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: video cutups, all twenty two cutups of all the runs
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: that the Rams had that were successful, and you can
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: see it for yourself. I mean, listen, the Rams do this.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: That's what they do, so you credit them. I mean,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you can't beat every single time. They're gonna run for
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a certain amount of yards against anybody because that's their
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: bread and butter. But you can clearly see double teams
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: moving guys out of the gaps, and in the fourth
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: that made Vikajusin the third and fourth quarter, he started
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: playing more guys on the line of scrimmage because if
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you bring one extra down then you can't double team
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: both guys. You can only double team one, and it
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: just changes the math of the run equation. But the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Rams still ran the ball well in general, so that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: something to look forward to with the Bucks. The Bucks
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: have not ran the ball well this year. They like
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to run the ball, but they are not getting a
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: lot of movement. So that's a good transition round. Yeah,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: to talk about the Bucks injury updates and their offensive line, which,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: by the way, they had this it's not as bad
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: last year as it is now. But last year they
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: were also starting a bunch of guys when they played
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the Eagles at all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's get to Mike Evans is not playing. He's
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: got I believe a grade one hamstering Grade one plus
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: hamstring strain. He'll miss at least three weeks. It's the worst,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the higher up it is in your hamstring, the worst
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: it is. And he pulled. He If you watch the highlight,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: he knew immediately. He's had chronic hamscering problems. So one
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: thing that's gotten him over the years. Chris, here's the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: good news for them. If you're a Bucks fan watching it,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there are. Godwin took a lot of reps
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: on Wednesday. Come back to Vankletic. This location from last season,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the ugly injury against Baltimore. He got hurt October twenty
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: first last year and it was awful. He's had the
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: worst luck with vicious bad injuries. It's terrible, yes, but
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: a great guy by the way. Penn Stater from Philly.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: They're expecting him unless something happens that he should be available,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: but they don't know how many reps he can handle.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Tristan Wurfs left their left tackle worse. They don't know
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: yet there he had this recurring knee problem. They thought
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: they were on the right path with him in August,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: then he had some sort of a setback. Let's get
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: to all of them. Logan Hall is one of their
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: starting defensive lineman. He's a six foot six, so they
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: were on a thirty four front. He plays technically like
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: a five or seven technique over a seven. He's pretty long.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: That's why he was drafted. Perfect fit for that scheme
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: you mentioned clade you can'ty to start. He's on ir
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: He won't be back until the playoffs, if at all.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Jalen McMillan, who was the third rounder a couple of
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: years ago, with the neck injury, he's on ir But
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: let's get to their offensive line. This is this is
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: where it all changes. So they all five starters from
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: last season. If they're back, they're not playing the same position.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: So Graham Barton, who was their center last season, he's
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: filling it for worse at left tackle. When Barton, who's
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: got short arms, was a left tackle of Duke, NFL
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: teams told us there was no way he was a
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: left tackle this this this level because his arm or
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: too short. Well, he's playing left tackle now because they
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: decided not to play Charlie Heck at left tackle. They're
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: playing Charlie Heck at the right tackle for Luke. Lucadecci.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Luca Deecie is on IRA with a foot injury. Let's
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: let's go to let's go to. This is crazy.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Let's right guard. Isn't the right guard out too? Cody
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Mawk is on Yeah, he's.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Out for the season. Yeah he Okay, Cody Mawk is
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: out for the season with a bad knee injury. Okay,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: they're going with practice squad. Right guard Luke Haggard. Oh,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: he was an unjudged free agent in twenty twenty three.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: At left guard is Elijah Klein. He's filling in for
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Mike Jordan, the journeyman. Not that Michael Jordan. This Michael Jordan.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: You might remember if you really follow the NFL. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: follow him. I remember him from the Panthers and Bengals.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: He was called up from their practice squad. He might
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: not be available with some sort of knee injury that
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: the Tops was talking about. Elijah Klein, who was a
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: six round out of UTEP last last season. He started
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: his first NFL game. Ben Brettison, who they signed to
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: play guard. He's playing center for Barton. You got all that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: We'll talk more about in the pre game show.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: All right, So best case scenario real quick.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: By the way, that for fantasy was a darling. He's
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: average three point four yards per cary because they can't
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: block for the run.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: The fact that they're three and zero is pretty is
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: pretty unbelievable. And they've won every single game on their
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: last possession, which is a believe I read was a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: record of a record. Yeah, the best case scenario for
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: them is Worfs can play left tackle, and then Barton
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: can move back to center, and then Bredison can move
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to left guard. But that still gives them a right
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: guard and the right tackle that are like guys off
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the street that you never heard of, that are going
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to really struggle. So it's good for the Eagles d line.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: No matter what.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Do you know who Charlie Heck's dad is.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do. I want to say he played in
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the NFL? Was it Andy Heck?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Now got it off the line coach?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's right. She's offensive line coach of course.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: All right, so that is the situation. What other injuries
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: and oh McMillan right, the wide.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Receiver, Yeah, talk about macmillan here, but they have a
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: couple of pop ups. Levante David he is a knee injury.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens the rest of the week. Charlie Heck,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the aforementioned Charlie Heck, He's got a knee issue. They
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: didn't seem to be concerned about it. They don't. They're
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: not concerned on the Baker Mayfield right biceps issue. But
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: these are all new injuries. So yeah, it's the Mike
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Evans one is monstrous because he changes everything that they do.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Because what's gonna probably happen as a BUCA will move,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: He'll move into his Evans exposition. Most likely we're gonna
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: look more into that for the pregame show, Godwin, Who's
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: when when when Bruce arians moved Chris Gonold of slot
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that changed his career. He became unbelievably dynamic slot receiver.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: But we don't know how well he can move coming
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: off with bad injury. But yeah, this changes it so
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and Baker Mayfield's and baller man. He's an unreal story,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: given up for dead as a quarterback for many years,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: and he is a baller man. He's doing a great
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: job for the Bucks. Yeah.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Wow, I just looked up, by the way, the injury
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: report for last year's game between the Bucks and Eagles,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I mentioned A. J. Brown was out, DeVante Smith was out,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Lane Johnson was questionable.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I think he got downgraded and didn't play it out.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't play. He was you know, started Fred Johnson.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Fred Johnson, that's right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Beckton was dealing with a finger injury. Mill Williams was
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: dealing with something. Slagh with his knee can't Sye was
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: out for the Bucks. Luke Gotticky was out. He was
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that Geki you Gottaki, the right tackle you mentioned was out.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Antoine Winfield Junior out of that game as well. I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: mean it was just and v Devey was was questionable.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: He did play, but he was a little bit beat
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: up that game. So man, it's like I guts said,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: every time these teams play, you know, just.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: We we gotta pick it. I know, for the preakame,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: we gotta pick I'm not I know people are thinking
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: there's no way the Eagles are win. Well, first of all,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: we don't know who's gonna be but yet cornerback's a disaster.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: But you know, again, for the eagles sake, thank goodness,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Mike Evans isn't playing. That that changes the way that you cover.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: But man, we'll see what happens. I'm hoping. I'm hoping
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: for for the we just want this to be a
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: good game. We don't need another blowout, orn ugly game.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, definitely, let's Wet'll close on this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, after last week's game and
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the fact that the Eagles have won eighteen of nineteen,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna have a Roun're right, I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: gonna have a tough time just picking against the Eagles anyway.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: It's they have it if they didn't lose last week
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: when they pretty much played their worst game for three
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: quarters and they couldn't stop anything, and then they went.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: To win it locky. But yeah, you know, obviously, yeah,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: but they.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Do remind me a little bit of last year's Chiefs team,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: because last year the Chiefs won fifteen to one, and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: they won so many. They won a game against the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Broncos on a block kick, if you remember, they won
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the season opener against the Ravens because Lively's foot was
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: like a little bit on the back line of the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: end zone on the final pass from Lamar of that game,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: or else they would have I think, just every single
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: game they were escaping with win after win, except the
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Eagles hopefully won't be as beat up as the as
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs were by the time they were in the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But hey, good teams figure out a way
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: to win those games.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: That was what I was going to say. The heart
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: of a champion, as I said on the the postgame show,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: nailed it is that a team that had not been
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: there and done that and mentally tough. Obviously, the quarterback
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: super mentally tough. It's one of Hurts his best traits.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: But Jordan Davis obviously amazing. But when you're down nineteen,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: you generally lose. I mean, you give up twenty six
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: straight points, you generally lose. But I don't want to.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not trying to minimize the comeback was
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: ridiculously great, but there's some luck of ov. You can't
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: predict two block hicks. That's the point. But you know what,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I give the coaches credit. They caught the flaw with
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Carti's issue of kicking low. That's a great job. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I'll leave with this. Hopefully they've solved this squib kick
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: or Whybbley kick returns five? The five that they didn't secure.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I'm sure obviously they're gonna work on that, but that
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: was kind of I don't know how they did. That's
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: another thing. How did they not fumble it? At least
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: they didn't fumble it. That was good?
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Well who the Eagles.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: At least they didn't turn it over all in one
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: of those right the kickoffs?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Oh the kickoffs? Yes, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean they
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: never actually had it in their.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I know, right, exactly. That's the but again they didn't
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: turn it over. But they're so metally tough. This team.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: You can't win out of nine, ten twenty if you're
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: not coach, well, if you're not melely tough. Just what
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: it looks like. There's zero chance, you know, somehow, we'll
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: see what happens.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: All right, quick trivia question for you before we close
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the person that's a great
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Tampa bit. No, I'm not going to ask you that.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You were there the quarterback.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Who's the quarterback who ran for third and seven first
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: down to set up the Matt Bryan field goal.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, you want to play this? What's that
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I said? If you want to go ahead play this game,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I'll do it with it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I won't look it up. I'll just kid out here.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Oh god, kenk Ram now can't beget.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Now, I'll give you in.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: He had a I think his brother played in the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: league at a different position, Western Pennsylvania name oh man.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, I was gonna give it away Toea. I'm
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: throwing to go ahead finish Gradkowski, Bruce Gradkows.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Bruce Creik. I know Bruce a little bit. Yeah, he's go.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Didn't you have a brother, Gino who played in the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: league somewhere? I have no idea, all right, either way,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: what I was going to ask you my trivia question
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: was what do you think Vic Fangio's blitz percentages so
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: far this year?
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I haven't looked because it's generally twenty two or twenty three,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: you know, somewhere around there. I would say twenty eight
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: to thirty percent.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: You're yeah, twenty seven point one. He's fourteenth in the league.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: That's pretty high for him. Last year he ended the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: year at nineteen point three.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: He would write.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Twenty eight in the league. So he is way two
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: years ago with the Dolphins twenty one point four, and
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: now when he was Broncos head coach Adam he was
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: up in between twenty five and twenty eight because they
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: weren't very good.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I think he needed to manufacture. But he was last year.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: He was under twenty percent. Last year.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: It was last year being with the Bears.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Is what under twenty percent?
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Oh wow? Yeah, No, he doesn't want to blutz, but
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: coaches they have to do what they have to for people.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: You know who pigeonholed Vic. They've been all wrong, by
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the way, so far. Yeah, you gotta do what you
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: gotta do. Man, if you can't get home, you can't
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: get home. He they can't get home, so he's blitzing they.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I really believe I will never truly know. Sean mcvagh
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: addressed it because he was asked about it. I know
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: it doesn't show with the pressure rate as much, but
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Stafford something like that. The pressure got to Stafford a
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: little bit. Again, may not show it, but they got
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: him enough to get to get into his head a
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: little bit, because man, he was doing some things like
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: what are you doing?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: It seemed to affect him when they blitzed him, and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: even when they didn't, he was a He just threw
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of quick passes and got rid of it
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: when there was no pressure.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: But like that point you made, I made the one
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: where for some dumb reason, he turned his body like
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: there was no one even near him, like, what are
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: you doing dude? Yeah, it's just bad football. I was.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I was shocked by that. But anyway, it's a fascinating matchup.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: We gave you the weather report to the minute, by
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: the way, and we'll see what happens. I just I
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: don't want to blow out again that because yeah, but
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: look but it's not like both teams don't have injury issues.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's very interesting. These Bucks offensive line changes
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: are crazy. See that's what that to me. And I'll
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: leave you with this. We'll talk more about his spreaking yep.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: But we know Jordan Davis is bringing it. I know
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: the first half. Greg told us on our show that
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: he had some issues with technique you stand up a
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: little bit. He saw Grady play in the second year.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: If Carter brings it whole game, Jordan Davis is on
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: another level now. He's bringing it pretty much. He does
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: have enough edge is to do it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: How good they are is another story. But they have
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: bodies now, yes, corner as a problem. The Bucks can
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: play plenty of eleven personnel if they choose to.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: So but their challenges. But it's not like they don't
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: have any talent here.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Agreed, it should be a good game and like you said,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: we will preview it on Friday, Friday Saturday. You know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I'll drop it and again, if you're on Patreon, you
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: get it first before everybody else.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: That's gonna do it.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: For this edition of Inside the Birds and the leading
• 43:29
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• 43:32
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