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This Gay Week EXPLODES: Pride Canceled, Toilet Wars, Nigel Farage Backlash & A Viral LGBTQ Student · The Karel Show

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Speaker 1: Show time is here. No time to fear. Coral is
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Speaker 1: so near because show time is here. So on with
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Speaker 1: the show.
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Speaker 2: Let's give it a go. Corella is the one that
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Speaker 2: you need to know.
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Speaker 1: Now, it's show side.
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Speaker 3: What else can I say? Everyone is gay? And if
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Speaker 3: they are, we're going to talk about him this week
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Speaker 3: on This Gay Week with me and Scott Jacobson, who
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Speaker 3: is still in Ukraine. I'm still alive. So look are
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Speaker 3: two very good things. No, all right, it is the
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Speaker 3: Carell Show. I am Corral and it's This Gay Week
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Speaker 3: with Scott Jacobson. I actually do this for him for
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Speaker 3: the good Man Project, which is a fabulous, fabulous website
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Speaker 3: if you haven't gone and go there and read all
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Speaker 3: the different stories. It's not an LGBTQ website, but it
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Speaker 3: really is a very interesting website which I think is
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Speaker 3: doing its best to combat toxic masculinity just by showing
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Speaker 3: very positive stories. Yeah, there are some negative stories there too,
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Speaker 3: but it's basically got a lot of good stuff as well.
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Speaker 3: I'm curious how he viewed Well, he probably hasn't seen it,
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Speaker 3: but there's a show half Man which deals with toxic masculinity,
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Speaker 3: and you write for the good Man project, and it's
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Speaker 3: obvious one of the characters in that show is not
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Speaker 3: a good man, and there is a gay guy in
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Speaker 3: it too. So first of all, welcome Scott. And I
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Speaker 3: gotta tell you I was more than a little concerned,
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Speaker 3: more than I have been at any other point in
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Speaker 3: your being in Ukraine, because we have become friends, and
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Speaker 3: this last week we hear in America, heard the horror
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Speaker 3: stories of this hyper sonic missile and you know all
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Speaker 3: of these other things that happened where you are in Kiev,
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Speaker 3: and wey, I was very worried. So I'm very glad
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Speaker 3: that you are here, both on the show and just
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Speaker 3: physically still on the planet. And before we get to
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Speaker 3: this gay week, give us just a little update since
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Speaker 3: you are there, and we did hear a lot about
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Speaker 3: it this week, and hypersonic missiles and more bombs than
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Speaker 3: have ever fallen in Kiev, and what is it like
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Speaker 3: there now?
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Speaker 4: And people were genuinely scared On the morning of twenty fourth.
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Speaker 4: My understing was the bombing was probably a bout four
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Speaker 4: hours plus or minus, the probably very per person where
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Speaker 4: they were geographically. The estimates were about ninety missiles and
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Speaker 4: six hundred drones. The drones the Ukrainian defense. They're exceptionally
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Speaker 4: good at them, so at a minimum seventy percent or
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Speaker 4: knockdown up to ninety or more percent, So that depends
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Speaker 4: on But if you if six hundred are going into
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Speaker 4: one primarily one place, Kieva at that time.
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Speaker 3: Run and even one hundred make it through, that's still Yeah.
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Speaker 3: If six hundred are coming and yeah, you knock out
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Speaker 3: five hundred of them, you've still got one hundred to
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Speaker 3: worry about. And the same goes with this hypersonic missile
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Speaker 3: that they were hyped about. They were oh yeah, six
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Speaker 3: times faster than the speed of sound and could have
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Speaker 3: carried a nuclear warhead and they were very proud of
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Speaker 3: their hypersonic missile.
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Speaker 4: Right, so probably a dud so far. They purportedly shot
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Speaker 4: potentially two. One misfired into La Honks, which is temporarily
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Speaker 4: occupied territory, and then the other landed in Blaserka. Actually
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Speaker 4: actually talked to a friend who that's their hometown. But
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Speaker 4: the speed of this is exceptionally fast. That is correct reportage.
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Speaker 4: So it can go about monk eleven when it go
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Speaker 4: because it basically suborbital, and then in descent it gets
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Speaker 4: up to Mancola, which is exceptionally fast.
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Speaker 3: That's fast sale. I'll tell you that right now. That's
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Speaker 3: that's that's fast. That's quick. All right, s yeah, Clarence
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Speaker 3: exactly a Prada outlet store. Uh. So very happy that
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Speaker 3: you are. Okay, I'm not happy that you're in the
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Speaker 3: middle of a war zone. But you're a reporter and
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Speaker 3: this is what you do. So you're thriving and loving
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Speaker 3: it and and I'm hating it. And I saw a
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Speaker 3: female behind you there. She didn't If I see I'd
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Speaker 3: be running around every day like aha. She was just
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Speaker 3: getting something out of the fridge. So you know, life,
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Speaker 3: life sort of goes on there. And although with no
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Speaker 3: end in sight, I just wonder, I wonder how long
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Speaker 3: this ridiculousness will keep up. But that's why you're there,
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Speaker 3: all right. We are going to do stories from this
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Speaker 3: gay week, uh, in gay and lesbian stories from around
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Speaker 3: the globe, some old, some new, uh. And we're going
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Speaker 3: to start with an older one because it's new because
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Speaker 3: there's a new show out called Social Media Murders. And
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Speaker 3: I watch all of these murder deathkill reality shows and
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Speaker 3: this one popped up. Oh you might like this one.
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Speaker 3: It actually is set in Canada and Great Britain. That's
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Speaker 3: where they pull their stories from. And and the guy
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Speaker 3: you can tell from the accents, murder just sounds better
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Speaker 3: when told by a brit or a Canadian. They have
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Speaker 3: a lovely accent and oh yes, we have a searching
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Speaker 3: for his body or where are you now? But so
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Speaker 3: I became acquainted with a story, and then I did
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Speaker 3: research on this story. And this story exemplified what we
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Speaker 3: talk about every week, why pride is still important, why
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Speaker 2: Show Time is here. No time to fear.
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Speaker 1: Correll is so near because showtime is here.
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Speaker 2: So on with the show. Let's give it a go.
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Speaker 2: Corell is the one that you need to know.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of modern day LGBTQ youth gen zgen y,
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Speaker 3: gen x, jen elfa, whatever, they hear some of the
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Speaker 3: stories that we do and they think, oh, it's either
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Speaker 3: in a country I'll never visit, or it was in
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Speaker 3: the ancient past. And I got a great reminder of
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Speaker 3: late that things are happening every day that we still
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Speaker 3: need to talk about and we need to expose because
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Speaker 3: they show why things like pride events, why things like legislation,
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Speaker 3: and why things like what we do. By the way,
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Speaker 3: I post this show not just on my social media,
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Speaker 3: I mean my my outlets, but also on SoundCloud through
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Speaker 3: Agressive Voices Network. When we do the this gay weeks,
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Speaker 3: they are always number one. It's currently number one there
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Speaker 3: right now on the Progressive Voices Network on sound list
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Speaker 3: Yes and and every yes and every week that you
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Speaker 3: and I do them and I post them there at
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Speaker 3: SoundCloud up Progressive Voices Network for that week, they always
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Speaker 3: rank number one. It almost makes me thinking, all, I
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Speaker 3: should just do a weekly gay show, but you know,
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Speaker 3: it always ranked number one, and I'm very thrilled that
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Speaker 3: people are listening because I want to tell you all,
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Speaker 3: and maybe tell Scott, because Scott probably didn't. This story
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Speaker 3: was six years ago, which may sound like ancient history
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Speaker 3: in today's you know world, but it's it's not. It's
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Speaker 3: only six years ago, uh seven years ago total, and
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Speaker 3: it just exemplifies to me how some things never change.
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Speaker 3: There was a young, gorgeous little boy named Alex Rhoda,
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Speaker 3: r O, d d A, or Rod, depending how you
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Speaker 3: want to say his name, Alex Rada and Alex was
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Speaker 3: a wonderfully bright and a flamboyant and fabulous high school kid,
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Speaker 3: much like myself. But the difference is Alex had access
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Speaker 3: to social media and that's why his story is featured
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Speaker 3: on social media murders. And he met someone on social
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Speaker 3: media and they became romantic on social media and then
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Speaker 3: in person. But then Alex and his friends found out
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Speaker 3: that this person that was becoming romantic with Alex had
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Speaker 3: a girlfriend and was living completely separate life. Like you know,
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Speaker 3: no one knew that he also liked young guys. Now,
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Speaker 3: this wasn't an older person, meaning it wasn't like a
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Speaker 3: thirty year old and Alex was only seventeen. This was
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Speaker 3: someone his age, but one that was living a double life.
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Speaker 3: Now I know a little about that because, believe it
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Speaker 3: or not, in junior high school and my first year
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Speaker 3: of high school, I had a girlfriend, we had sex.
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Speaker 3: I fully tried to do what society was telling me
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Speaker 3: I needed to do, and I could not because I
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Speaker 3: met Eddie in my first year of high school and
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Speaker 3: fell madly and deeply in love. Cynthia, my girlfriend still
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Speaker 3: hates me to this day because she actually thought we
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Speaker 3: were gonna get married. I mean, we were that serious.
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Speaker 3: I was at her house all the time and we
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Speaker 3: were having sex, and everyone thought we were everywhere we went,
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Speaker 3: we were a couple, and everybody thought we were gonna
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Speaker 3: end up married. And then I'm like, sorry, I like him,
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Speaker 3: and she should have known. I mean, come on, it
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Speaker 3: was me, but I didn't. I knew, but I didn't
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Speaker 3: want to admit because this is the seventies and you
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Speaker 3: know it. I knew that my life would be hard,
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Speaker 3: and so I desperately wanted to be straight, and so
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Speaker 3: I tried to be but I couldn't. It lasted a
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Speaker 3: year and a half and then I realized, girl, you
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Speaker 3: love Barbara Strassan more than you love your girlfriend, So
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Speaker 3: you got a problem. So I was honest about it.
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Speaker 3: I told her. I didn't hide that I was sleeping
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Speaker 3: with Eddie from her. I told her prior to sleeping
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Speaker 3: with Eddie, and we broke up, and then I went
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Speaker 3: on to sleep with Eddie and so I remember this
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Speaker 3: time well. In Alex's case, the guy that he fell
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Speaker 3: in love with, or you know, wanted to date or
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Speaker 3: whatever somehow that he kind of got outed or was
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Speaker 3: afraid of being outed. When Alex's friends found out that
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Speaker 3: this guy was two timing Alex, and in exchange to
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Speaker 3: keep his secret, he killed Alex. And that is not
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Speaker 3: an uncommon occurrence in the gay world. We as gay
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Speaker 3: men fall four or engage in relationships with men who
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Speaker 3: are willing participants. We're not raping them, We're not, you know,
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Speaker 3: They're willing participants. And then all of a sudden, they
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Speaker 3: dislike themselves for what they're doing, and they take their
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Speaker 3: hatred of themselves, they take their self loathly out on
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Speaker 3: the person they blame for it. In this case, Alex's
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Speaker 3: partner blamed him and so he killed him. And this
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Speaker 3: is something that happens today. It especially happens to young people,
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Speaker 3: all because a man can't deal with the fact that
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Speaker 3: he is either by which this guy might have been,
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Speaker 3: or gay and on the down low. And I think
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Speaker 3: this is exemplified again in a story that you may follow.
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Speaker 3: Are you familiar with a rock band by the name
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Speaker 3: of I didn't send you the story, but it's a
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Speaker 3: big let's see lead singer comes out rock band. It
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Speaker 3: just happened. Uh, yes, a rock front man's yes, that's
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Speaker 3: what's his name.
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Speaker 4: Of Bear Tooth front man Beartooth year old singer.
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Speaker 3: So he was married, I believe, to a woman fourteen years.
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Speaker 4: Fourteen years and they're going to be separating.
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Speaker 3: And struggled that entire time, Uh, with his sexuality privately,
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Speaker 3: in private, he didn't share it. He self medicated alcohol, drugs.
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Speaker 3: And bear Claw or whatever it's named the group is,
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Speaker 3: I think it should be I think it should be
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Speaker 3: bear Claw, but whatever.
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Speaker 4: You know, White Claws.
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Speaker 3: Right and Beartooth. I imagine their demo isn't exactly the
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Speaker 3: gay and lesbian demo. You know what I'm saying. I
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Speaker 3: mean it's kids, rocker kids, Yeah, exactly. But he came
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Speaker 3: out this week and cub Teeth, Yes, he came out
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Speaker 3: this week after fourteen years of being married to a woman.
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Speaker 3: It is not uncommon for a man who is dating
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Speaker 3: a woman or married to one to finally deal with
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Speaker 3: his feelings. However, it's also not uncommon for a man
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Speaker 3: who's married to a woman or dating a woman to
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Speaker 3: act on his gay or by urges and then kill
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Speaker 3: the gay person that he has had sex with. And
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Speaker 3: so I wanted to start with this story of the
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Speaker 3: lovely Alex Rhoda, who you all should look up. He
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Speaker 3: should not have He should be alive with us right now.
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Speaker 3: He should be in his mid twenties. He should be
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Speaker 3: dating the lead singer of Bear Tooth. You know he
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Speaker 3: he should not be dead, yeah right, you know, he
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Speaker 3: should not be dead, right, but he is. And I
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Speaker 3: just want you all to know there are so many
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Speaker 3: of these stories still happening right now, right now, especially
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Speaker 3: to young people, because when you have a Donald Trump,
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Speaker 3: and when you have other people in the world who
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Speaker 3: are pushing gay rights back, who are trying to put
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Speaker 3: people back in the closet, who are trying to punish
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Speaker 3: gay people. When you have that happening, people are less
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Speaker 3: apt to express their bisexuality or their gayness in a
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Speaker 3: positive fashion and more apt to kill or harm gay
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Speaker 3: people because they blame them for their feelings. I have
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Speaker 3: slept with men that identify us straight, and there have
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Speaker 3: been a couple who have tried to get violent afterwards.
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Speaker 3: To my advantage, I'm five foot ten and rather big
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Speaker 3: and I don't fuck around, and so that got stopped quickly.
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Speaker 3: But you know, and they were so self loathing. I
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Speaker 3: just couldn't see them anymore. But Alex didn't know about that,
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Speaker 3: and we.
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Speaker 4: Have the studies.
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Speaker 3: I am not.
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Speaker 4: So the penopathibasis, gastrace. I'll do, I'll do. I'll give
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Speaker 4: you the cliff notes at this. I think you'll find
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Speaker 4: very funny. But as far as I know, this is
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Speaker 4: pure view research. And this is when I was in
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Speaker 4: psychology classes.
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Speaker 3: Are you talking about where they put straight man in
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Speaker 3: front of straight porn or they put straight man in
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Speaker 3: front of gay porn and attached sensors to their penises
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Speaker 3: and a majority of a lot of the straight men
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Speaker 3: got very aroused for the gay porn.
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Speaker 4: Close. The last part would be those that rated high
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Speaker 4: on homophobia, Yes, had a higher reactivity and the blood
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Speaker 4: flow was not something they're conscious of. That's the right part.
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Speaker 3: Every every gay man will tell you the more a
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Speaker 3: man objects to homosexuality, the likelier he is that he
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Speaker 3: wants to sleep with a man. That is just that's
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Speaker 3: while all these Christian ministers get caught, these big anti
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Speaker 3: homophobe Christian ministers often get caught with other men because
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Speaker 3: they're just suppressing. And that's in the Alex Rota case.
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Speaker 3: It's the exact same emotion. The guy that he was
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Speaker 3: dating was such a homophobe that he hated himself so
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Speaker 3: much that the thought that he had slept was another
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Speaker 3: man made him kill the other man. And so this
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Speaker 3: is very dangerous.
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Speaker 4: It's something they've done. So it's shame. Yes, it's socially.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sanctioned there for it's shame induced reactive violence.
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Speaker 3: It is, And that's why I wanted to bring it
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Speaker 3: up and just let everyone listening know. First of all,
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Speaker 3: if you are gay, it might be fun to fuck
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Speaker 3: around with forbidden fruit, but don't. It's forbidden for a reason.
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Speaker 3: I can't tell you when I lived in Huntington Beach
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Speaker 3: how many skinheads I had sex with, and then the
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Speaker 3: next week they're out there bashing gays. And I mean
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Speaker 3: that I literally saw them, you know, bashing gays, and
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Speaker 3: yet I slept with them the week before. And so
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Speaker 3: this is common. It happens. If you have children and
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Speaker 3: you think they are gay, have these discussions with them,
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Speaker 3: Share the story of alex Rada with them. If you
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Speaker 3: have grandchildren, nieces nephews, share the story of alex Rada.
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Speaker 3: Don't let him be forgotten, and let there be a
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Speaker 3: lesson that if someone is self loathing or not fully
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Speaker 3: out or whatever, you can't fix them. Run, do not walk. Run.
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Speaker 3: And yes, the bigger the homophobe, the more likely they
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Speaker 3: are to actually be gay or want to have gay sex,
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Speaker 3: which explains why Grinder actually crashes at most Republican events
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Speaker 3: because yeah, the lady does protest too much, methinks, and
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Speaker 3: so there's that. So that was the first story I
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Speaker 3: wanted to lead with, only because I've seen it happen
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Speaker 3: so many times, where people get hurt or they get
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Speaker 3: killed trans This is happening right now in the trans community.
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Speaker 3: A guy will sleep with a male to female transgender person.
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Speaker 3: He will then find out that she was once a man,
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Speaker 3: and even though she is a woman now, they will
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Speaker 3: commit violence on this trans person for not telling them
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Speaker 3: that they were once a man, or for them finding out.
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Speaker 3: I had a friend named Neeoka. She was trans, had
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Speaker 3: not had the bottom surgery yet, and yes, she used
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Speaker 3: to be a hooker for fun and profit. She when
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Speaker 3: we went to West Hollywood and we needed drink money,
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Speaker 3: she'd go work sunset for an hour or two, come
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Speaker 3: back and we do a night on the town. And
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Speaker 3: and God bless Nioka one time, Noka came back bruised
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Speaker 3: and bloodied. And that's because she didn't tell the date
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Speaker 3: that even though she had breast and looked like a woman,
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Speaker 3: she still had the junk downstairs. And when he reached
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Speaker 3: for the junk downstairs, even though she tried to stop it,
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Speaker 3: he felt it and he beat the crap out of her.
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Speaker 3: And so this happens. So just know that it happens.
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Speaker 3: If you have a gay person in your life, share
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Speaker 3: the story of Alex and make them aware that there
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Speaker 3: are dangers to dating someone that is closeted. And if
19:06
Speaker 3: if you are dating someone that's closeted, don't threaten to
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Speaker 3: out them, just walk away. I know you want to stand, well,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell your girlfriend. What would she say about? No,
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Speaker 3: don't do that. You could end up dead. So all right,
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Speaker 3: let's move on to Colney, London. Colney it's an example
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Speaker 3: of hate crime leading to a larger cancelation. And I'm
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Speaker 3: sure you probably saw the story from Hertfordshire, the Den
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Speaker 3: of Gainess. When I think of Gainis, I think of
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Speaker 3: Hertfordshire and they had two gay pride flags torn down
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Speaker 3: and continued violence. So the first loud and Proud event,
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Speaker 3: which was gonna be at Shirley's Roadhouse in London Colney,
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Speaker 3: has been canceled and it's really sad. I was going
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Speaker 3: to have live music from Christina Aguilera, Elton John and
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Speaker 3: Britney Spears tribute acts because they couldn't afford the ralance,
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Speaker 3: but organizers said banners advertising it had been removed from
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Speaker 3: the outside venue twice and so they, in fear for
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Speaker 3: the people that would show up, they've canceled the event.
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Speaker 3: And this shows you how every country is having its
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Speaker 3: issues right now. It's not just America. Every country is
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Speaker 3: having its issues. And that's a sad story actually, because
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Speaker 3: they were so happy to have their first Pride event
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Speaker 3: and now they're not.
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Speaker 4: And I asked you a few weeks ago if you
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Speaker 4: thought declines in democracy, going off of a Freedom House
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Speaker 4: report over the last approximately two decades of a decline
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Speaker 4: in democratic governess globally and rise of autocratic tendencies, if
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Speaker 4: that trend of decor in democratic governance is correlated in
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Speaker 4: evidentiary way, this loose mystical way. With good client of
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Speaker 4: the PC right, I believe we were in agreement that
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Speaker 4: it's quite likely that if you see declines in equality
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Speaker 4: for LGBTQI plus people in a society.
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Speaker 3: And more about that.
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Speaker 2: Now, is show.
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Speaker 3: Unequipocally yes, just beyond a doubt, unequippocally yes. The the
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Speaker 3: thing I've always talked about here in the United States,
21:48
Speaker 3: the bully pulpit is the most powerful thing the president has. Period.
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Speaker 3: That's that's the most important thing he has. And Trump
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Speaker 3: uses it, by the way, a lot, and he will.
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Speaker 3: He is a bully. It's not called the bully pulpit
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Speaker 3: for that reason. But but you know it the president.
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Speaker 3: When a president speaks, people listen. Careful the things you say,
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Speaker 3: children will listen. And when a president speaks, people listen,
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Speaker 3: and he sets the tone. So when we have a
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Speaker 3: president like Barack Obama or Bill Clinton or Kennedy or
22:21
Speaker 3: Carter who are pro LGBTQ rights. Even look, Obama was
22:27
Speaker 3: not for same sex marriage when he took office. Okay,
22:30
Speaker 3: he was not. He made it clear he was not.
22:33
Speaker 3: He quote evolved on that issue. But he also wasn't
22:39
Speaker 3: anti gay. He didn't preach against same sex marriage. And
22:43
Speaker 3: so it does set a tone more than anything else.
22:47
Speaker 3: So it's not so much that they're autocratic. It's not
22:51
Speaker 3: so much that there. It's their mood, their speech, their
22:58
Speaker 3: persona infects the people they govern. So someone that is
23:05
Speaker 3: very to the right on issues they keep talking that way,
23:09
Speaker 3: their country swings to the right. Someone that's very left
23:13
Speaker 3: and they talk that way, their country swings to the left.
23:17
Speaker 3: Not magically, it's the bully pulpit, it's the message being
23:20
Speaker 3: sent from the highest up, and recently across the globe
23:26
Speaker 3: it has become much easier for leaders even in the
23:30
Speaker 3: UK to either not talk about LGBTQ issues at all,
23:34
Speaker 3: which Adam Mockler was just interviewed at on the Advocate
23:38
Speaker 3: saying Democrats should not throw gays under the bus in
23:41
Speaker 3: this next election, which they're planning to do that they
23:44
Speaker 3: should actually double down on their support of LGBTQ people,
23:49
Speaker 3: because you don't win elections by throwing a group that
23:51
Speaker 3: supports you under the bus. But even Democrats are now
23:55
Speaker 3: afraid to make gay issues an issue because of the
23:58
Speaker 3: damaged Trump is done. So yeah, yes, autocrats and the
24:01
Speaker 3: slide of democrats of democracy and democratic societies do breed
24:07
Speaker 3: more conservatism, which means less LGBTQ rights. Then someone to
24:13
Speaker 3: the left gets power and suddenly gay rights make you know,
24:18
Speaker 3: it's it's we're like two Hondas passing on the freeway,
24:21
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's like someone to the left
24:25
Speaker 3: comes in in whatever country you want, gays flourish, then
24:29
Speaker 3: the right takes hold and gays move back, then the left,
24:33
Speaker 3: then the right. Sometimes you're equal. But yes, the president,
24:40
Speaker 3: the cabinet, the mood that is set by those people
24:43
Speaker 3: transcends down, trickles down like urine, and that trickling down
24:48
Speaker 3: affects the policies and the mood of the people being governed.
24:52
Speaker 3: So in the UK right now, you know, since we're
24:58
Speaker 3: talking UK, we have Farage, who is right now got
25:02
Speaker 3: another voice. You know, he's not done with politics, he's
25:05
Speaker 3: getting another voice. He backed a preacher who said that
25:11
Speaker 3: homosexuality was an abomination. Now he was criticized for that,
25:16
Speaker 3: but not ostracized. And there's a big difference, you know, Yes,
25:23
Speaker 3: and and I don't think we should criticize these people.
25:26
Speaker 3: We should ostracize these people, but we don't. And so
25:30
Speaker 3: Farage gets to have this preacher who says homosexuality is
25:33
Speaker 3: an abomination. I think preachers that think homosexuality is an
25:37
Speaker 3: abomination are abominations. But that's just me and probably God
25:41
Speaker 3: is on my side with that, if there is one.
25:43
Speaker 3: But I don't believe in fairy tales, so you know,
25:45
Speaker 3: I stop believing in Santa and unicorns, and I don't
25:49
Speaker 3: believe in their fictitious Christ, which I just found out
25:51
Speaker 3: something interesting. Not to get off topic, but did you
25:54
Speaker 3: know that the Gospels weren't written by Mark, John, Luke
25:58
Speaker 3: and the other one or whatever, that those names were
26:02
Speaker 3: assigned whatever. Those names were actually assigned later by Catholic
26:09
Speaker 3: popes who had and king's king James. Uh. That the
26:13
Speaker 3: actual scriptures that they went from, the actual text are anonymous.
26:19
Speaker 3: They don't have authors listed. So those four Gospels, yeah, no,
26:27
Speaker 3: that you can look it up. It's verifiable. The four
26:31
Speaker 3: Gospels of the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, they
26:34
Speaker 3: weren't written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Uh. They
26:37
Speaker 3: were written anonymously, and later they were attributed to Matthew, Mark,
26:42
Speaker 3: Luke and John even though they were not the authors. Uh.
26:46
Speaker 3: So that's that was.
26:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there are I mean, there are probably
26:50
Speaker 4: like linguistic detritus that mark multiple authors, per discrepancy, style
26:59
Speaker 4: of writing, reference discrepancies and so on.
27:02
Speaker 3: And in that original tech by the way.
27:06
Speaker 4: Gospels.
27:07
Speaker 3: Well, and in the original text, since we're talking about it,
27:10
Speaker 3: and since now Nigel Farage has this preacher out there
27:13
Speaker 3: calling homosexuality and abomination. In the original text that the
27:17
Speaker 3: Bible is taken from, not only was there no word
27:21
Speaker 3: for homosexuality, it was never mentioned at all in the
27:25
Speaker 3: Bible in the original text at all. In fact, the
27:28
Speaker 3: first reference to homosexuality in a Bible did not appear
27:32
Speaker 3: until nineteen forty two. So how about that in the
27:36
Speaker 3: originals we're in London anywhere, the original text of the
27:40
Speaker 3: Bible had nothing about being gay, nothing about homosexuality, And
27:45
Speaker 3: they often misinterpret Leviticus from man sleeping with another man
27:48
Speaker 3: that was actually referring to pedophilia man sleeping. The original
27:53
Speaker 3: word they used, which was an aramaic, did not translate
27:57
Speaker 3: to gay or homosexual. So in all of the Bible's
28:01
Speaker 3: text there is no reference to homosexuality at all. Just note,
28:06
Speaker 3: and you can check that the scholars will back me
28:08
Speaker 3: up on this.
28:11
Speaker 4: That's the current popular pastors like maybe not necessarily re warm,
28:15
Speaker 4: maybe some like Marked Driscoll, former out of Seattle, not
28:18
Speaker 4: of Arizona. I think at Trinity Church, his big thing
28:22
Speaker 4: has been referencing or orienting it around the word pornaea,
28:26
Speaker 4: and so then it smushes everything into the same camp,
28:32
Speaker 4: including premarital sex, cheating, homosexuality, et cetera, infidelity, and so.
28:41
Speaker 3: Look, if God was against being gay, he wouldn't have
28:44
Speaker 3: had If God was against being gay, he wouldn't have
28:46
Speaker 3: let his son go roam the desert for thirty days
28:48
Speaker 3: with men in dresses. I'm just saying, I'm just saying
28:53
Speaker 3: that's that. But anyway, so yeah, it's very important.
28:55
Speaker 4: Like Jesus person, not the name, it's Jesus.
28:58
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well there was no Jay in the language,
29:00
Speaker 3: so they couldn't have been you coming, but you know.
29:04
Speaker 3: Uh so. Nigel Far's, a Reform UK leader, recorded a
29:08
Speaker 3: video with Stephen Clayton after Polchefter Council applied for a
29:12
Speaker 3: banning order to limit his street preaching. So they wanted
29:17
Speaker 3: to limit him being able to be out in screaming.
29:19
Speaker 3: We'll talk more about limiting street preaching when we come back,
29:23
Speaker 3: but I'm all for it.
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Speaker 3: So this guy is Clayton. He preaches for the Bread
30:22
Speaker 3: of Life church, and there is a complaint against his
30:25
Speaker 3: street preaching, particularly when he said all adulterers, all fornicators,
30:30
Speaker 3: all sodomites, all drunkards, all thieves, all blasphemers, all liars,
30:35
Speaker 3: all mockers, their homes shall be in the lake of fire,
30:39
Speaker 3: which it sounds like i'd want to visit. Oh, oh,
30:41
Speaker 3: Scott's gone. We'll get him back. Don't worry, folks, We'll
30:44
Speaker 3: get Scott back. Unless there's been some sort of missile
30:46
Speaker 3: attack in Kiev again, you know, you never know, but
30:49
Speaker 3: we'll get him back. Don't worry. But I'm being serious
30:52
Speaker 3: when I say that the people that they list that
30:56
Speaker 3: he lists in his speech are actually people you'd want
30:59
Speaker 3: to be at a party with if you ask me.
31:02
Speaker 3: All Right, here he is, he's back. Let's add him. Yes,
31:06
Speaker 3: ad Scott, Come on, Scott, there you are. Let's get
31:09
Speaker 3: you back here. Let's get your reassigned AD layer. No no, no,
31:16
Speaker 3: replaced layer. No no no, no, no, no no. Where
31:19
Speaker 3: is this and replaced layer AD layer network? Scott Jacobson,
31:24
Speaker 3: there you are. Oh no that no no, But I'm
31:27
Speaker 3: doing it wrong. You'd think I haven't done this enough network.
31:35
Speaker 3: Where are you? Scott Jacobson. Okay, there you go. Okay,
31:41
Speaker 3: so you missed a good part. You missed the part
31:43
Speaker 3: about adulterers, fornicators, sodomites, drunkers, thieves, blasphemers, liars, and mockers
31:48
Speaker 3: are people that I would like to invite to a
31:50
Speaker 3: party that yeah, you know. But he was out there
31:53
Speaker 3: saying that they're all going to live in the Lake
31:55
Speaker 3: of Fire, which is obviously the address you want if
31:57
Speaker 3: you want to have a fun afterlife. But but exactly
32:04
Speaker 3: in the same session, he told passers by, they hear
32:06
Speaker 3: about words in the Bible like judgment and sin and repentance,
32:10
Speaker 3: they don't like hearing the holy words of God. They
32:12
Speaker 3: are offended by what the Bible says. When the Bible
32:14
Speaker 3: says homosexuality is an abomination, the council asked him to
32:19
Speaker 3: show them the exact scripture that said homosexuality is an
32:23
Speaker 3: abomination and he couldn't because there's no such scripture.
32:28
Speaker 4: That's embarrassing.
32:29
Speaker 3: Well, because there's no such scripture. So Nigel Farage got
32:32
Speaker 3: criticized for, you know, hanging out with him. As far
32:37
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, I don't like either of them. So
32:39
Speaker 3: and they're not going to Nigel Farage is not going
32:41
Speaker 3: to win there. I know there's turmoil and stormer may
32:43
Speaker 3: or may not you know, stay and all that, but
32:46
Speaker 3: a Pharage ain't going to be the next one. While
32:50
Speaker 3: we're in the UK, let's talk toilets because people are
32:53
Speaker 3: obsessed with bathrooms. In your lifetime, have you ever heard
32:57
Speaker 3: so much discussion about bathrooms?
32:59
Speaker 4: Ever, it's not a big issue for me personally.
33:04
Speaker 3: Well it is for your government and for my government,
33:06
Speaker 3: for the government of the UK.
33:09
Speaker 4: Except camping, and it's a it can be an urgent issue.
33:14
Speaker 3: Why can't we just look upon public bathrooms as camping?
33:17
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like when you're out
33:19
Speaker 3: in the woods there's no male or female bathrooms. It's
33:22
Speaker 3: like what any port in the storm just go? You know?
33:26
Speaker 4: So I think the one important question is there a
33:28
Speaker 4: bear round?
33:29
Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly. So single sex basis such as changing rooms
33:33
Speaker 3: and toilets must be used on the basis of biological sex.
33:37
Speaker 3: New guidance from the Equalities Watchdog has confirmed this means
33:41
Speaker 3: that a trans woman a biological male who identifies as
33:45
Speaker 3: a woman should not use female toilets or changing rooms
33:48
Speaker 3: according to the Code of Practice. This was produced by
33:52
Speaker 3: the Equalities and Human Rights Commission and now approved by Ministers. Uh.
33:56
Speaker 3: This is in the UK, of course, after their Supreme
33:59
Speaker 3: Court ruled this and kind of gobsmacked. So what you're
34:11
Speaker 3: saying is a male to female trans person who is
34:15
Speaker 3: now biologically female in every way, shape or form, breast, vagina, hair, makeup, everything,
34:23
Speaker 3: that that person going into the men's restroom is going
34:28
Speaker 3: to be easier to explain to your child than that
34:32
Speaker 3: person going into a female restroom where your child wouldn't
34:36
Speaker 3: even suspect anything at all. Doesn't it just seem like
34:41
Speaker 3: they're making their own problems here, I mean, you know,
34:46
Speaker 3: and again, is there a national junk checker? Is that
34:49
Speaker 3: going to be a new job bathroom junk checker? You know?
34:53
Speaker 3: Because how is anyone if you're a woman and you're
34:57
Speaker 3: in the woman's bathroom and a beautiful woman walks in,
35:00
Speaker 3: or an ugly woman walks in, A woman walks in
35:03
Speaker 3: who looks like a woman goes into the stall and peace.
35:08
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Speaker 3: So here's what I want to have happen. I want
35:51
Speaker 3: a family, a man and his kids to be in
35:53
Speaker 3: the male restroom, and I want a woman that is
35:57
Speaker 3: just vivaciously gorgeous to walk in, go up to the
36:01
Speaker 3: arnal and whip out a schlong that would make a
36:04
Speaker 3: donkey proud. And I want that guy to explain that
36:07
Speaker 3: to his kids. That's what I want, because that's what
36:11
Speaker 3: they're asking for. They are literally creating problems for themselves.
36:15
Speaker 3: And up until Donald Trump got elected into office, no
36:20
Speaker 3: one anywhere had a problem with trans people in bathrooms.
36:24
Speaker 3: I haven't heard it in the news. Advocate hasn't written
36:27
Speaker 3: about it for decades. It hasn't been on it, and
36:29
Speaker 3: the the legislative agendas of any countries at all for
36:35
Speaker 3: my entire life. But suddenly, suddenly Donald Trump takes office
36:41
Speaker 3: and the entire world is worried about where trans people.
36:43
Speaker 4: Be, including mister Trump. You know, you educiate me on
36:48
Speaker 4: this that he did not have much of an issue
36:50
Speaker 4: at all.
36:51
Speaker 3: Nope, at all, non political Donald Trump. I can't believe
36:58
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, but it's the true. Donald Trump
37:01
Speaker 3: was actually an ally to the LGBTQ community before he
37:06
Speaker 3: ran for political office. He has spoken many times about
37:12
Speaker 3: how everyone should have equal rights. He has spoken many
37:15
Speaker 3: times about gay people not bothering him, that he's fine
37:18
Speaker 3: with it. And you know, because he lived in New
37:20
Speaker 3: York for the love of God, you know, and so
37:23
Speaker 3: he had no problem with gay people, black people. He
37:26
Speaker 3: had a problem with gay people, not and oh he did.
37:30
Speaker 3: He placed an ad about the Central Park five and
37:33
Speaker 3: the whole thing, you know, his housing that he owned.
37:37
Speaker 3: Black people took him to court and won because he
37:41
Speaker 3: was a slum lord. Oh yeah, no, he he had
37:43
Speaker 3: a problem with black people, but not gay people. Then
37:46
Speaker 3: he but remember what he is, he is an opportunist.
37:51
Speaker 3: So when he ran for office, he found out that Maga, Yeah,
37:54
Speaker 3: that Maga has a problem with gay people. So suddenly
37:58
Speaker 3: he had a problem with gay people, and he still
38:00
Speaker 3: schidzophrenic on it. He said just two weeks ago that
38:03
Speaker 3: he has no problem with gay people, that the gays
38:05
Speaker 3: love him and they support him. And he's also delusional,
38:08
Speaker 3: but he's like, oh, no, I have no problem with
38:10
Speaker 3: gay people, and then out of the same mouth ten
38:13
Speaker 3: minutes later he'll condemn trans people or or you know,
38:19
Speaker 3: condone repairtive therapy or something like that. So he has
38:24
Speaker 3: no moral compass. It broke a long time ago, and
38:28
Speaker 3: he's lost in the sea of morality, and he only
38:31
Speaker 3: goes the way that he thinks people want him to go.
38:36
Speaker 3: In other words, for whatever is advantageous to him. If
38:40
Speaker 3: it's advantageous to talk against Gaze, then he will. If
38:43
Speaker 3: it's advantageous to be for Gazed, then he's for them.
38:46
Speaker 3: He is for something until he is against it, and
38:49
Speaker 3: that is simply because he likes to be popular. And
38:53
Speaker 3: I hate those kind of people who change their opinions
38:56
Speaker 3: because they want to be popular. We have spoken about
39:00
Speaker 3: Senegal a lot, as we spoke back in March about
39:04
Speaker 3: their new law, and you know, severely punishing gaze. I
39:10
Speaker 3: just had to send this story because I love what
39:13
Speaker 3: the leader said, uh, the tyranny. Go ahead and read
39:20
Speaker 3: the headline. I just want to hear it from somebody,
39:22
Speaker 3: because it's just all right.
39:22
Speaker 4: I'll give you. So this is Lamond, a prominent publication respected,
39:29
Speaker 4: uh depending on person. Senegalese Prime Minister Usman Sonko denounced
39:34
Speaker 4: western quote tyranny unquote, with the explicit claim that Western
39:40
Speaker 4: powers are seeking to impose homosexuality globally.
39:46
Speaker 3: Well, it's about.
39:47
Speaker 4: Those homosexuality globally.
39:50
Speaker 3: It's about.
39:52
Speaker 4: Laws. I don't I'm not aware even if it was
39:58
Speaker 4: a serious point of a single case in which that
40:01
Speaker 4: is the case, even within a subculture within a nation.
40:05
Speaker 3: Well, I will say, in the nineteen forties, we did
40:07
Speaker 3: try to develop a bomb to turn soldiers gay. That
40:10
Speaker 3: is true. That is truth. It's researchable. You didn't know,
40:14
Speaker 3: you didn't know. No, No, this is factual. You can
40:17
Speaker 3: research this. In the nineteen forties, the US military tried
40:22
Speaker 3: to perfect a bomb that would make the soldiers gay
40:26
Speaker 3: because they thought if they sent it over to the
40:28
Speaker 3: other side and blew it up, that this is how
40:32
Speaker 3: little they think of gay people. That all of the
40:35
Speaker 3: soldiers would either throw down their arms and run screaming, oh,
40:39
Speaker 3: or just hook up with each other. But no, this
40:43
Speaker 3: is true. The American army tried to create a weapon
40:47
Speaker 3: that would turn the enemy gay. This is true.
40:51
Speaker 4: They hide psychics and stuff too during that time. Yeah,
40:54
Speaker 4: there was a lot of nonsense, a lot of nonsense
40:56
Speaker 4: on the Nazi side especially, but also on the American side.
40:59
Speaker 3: So as far as I know, we that was unsuccessful
41:02
Speaker 3: and we have no such weapons. So I'm not sure
41:04
Speaker 3: how we would impose homosexuality on the world. But the
41:08
Speaker 3: Senegalese leader seems to think that the West, which are
41:12
Speaker 3: busy banning trans people in bathrooms, is trying to impose
41:16
Speaker 3: or impose homosexuality upon the world. First of all, dudes,
41:22
Speaker 3: you live in Senegal, where people can't even afford to
41:25
Speaker 3: eat or have houses. You have bigger fish to fry.
41:29
Speaker 3: But second of all, nowhere in the article does he
41:34
Speaker 3: explain this tyranny. In other words, he doesn't give concrete
41:39
Speaker 3: examples of how we are trying to impose homosexuality on
41:44
Speaker 3: the world.
41:44
Speaker 4: On the world, yeah, it's writing an anti West sentiment
41:49
Speaker 4: global right now. I mean, for some some good reasons
41:52
Speaker 4: and and a lot of bad reasons, but in general
41:55
Speaker 4: it's an externalization of their locus of control. In addition,
42:00
Speaker 4: it's a political move, as you're noting.
42:03
Speaker 3: He's like Donald Trump, why he's in case. Yes, the
42:06
Speaker 3: mood of his country is against gays, so he's going
42:09
Speaker 3: to speak out against gays. If the mood of his
42:11
Speaker 3: country was pro gay, he'd suck dick at the podium.
42:14
Speaker 3: So whatever, you know, I'm just I am tired.
42:17
Speaker 4: There was there are some African states of which you're
42:18
Speaker 4: aware of. There's one heartbreaking documentary where there was an
42:23
Speaker 4: interview with I believe was a lesbian woman and she
42:29
Speaker 4: was talking about corrective rape, where straight African men would
42:35
Speaker 4: rape lesbian women to make them straight, with us the
42:38
Speaker 4: thinking having another context as well, but with that partic
42:42
Speaker 4: the doctor was in that context roll the Sene police case,
42:45
Speaker 4: and you know, in a similar way, I'm in the
42:49
Speaker 4: similar thinking. The issue wouldn't be the mythology of corrective
42:54
Speaker 4: rape of a lesbian, it would be that she is lesbian.
42:58
Speaker 4: That would be the problem. Yes, you know, that's.
43:01
Speaker 3: Well, that's not far off from repaired to therapy. There
43:05
Speaker 3: are religions religious sex and repaired to therapy right here
43:09
Speaker 3: in this country that forced young gay male adults to
43:12
Speaker 3: have sex with females to try to make them straight.
43:16
Speaker 3: It doesn't work. They spend most of their time talking
43:18
Speaker 3: about euphoria and doing their hair, but you know they
43:22
Speaker 3: still which I just watched euph You. I had never
43:26
Speaker 3: watched it because I thought, what do I want to
43:28
Speaker 3: teen drama for? But I do love Jacob Alordie, and
43:31
Speaker 3: I had no idea that Zindaia played a lesbian and
43:34
Speaker 3: that there were like so many gay people in it.
43:35
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I've never seen this show. What is
43:38
Speaker 3: this show? So now I'm starting to watch you for
43:40
Speaker 3: you actually, and I can see why the Ride is
43:42
Speaker 3: so upset about that show because it shows youth in
43:45
Speaker 3: an honest light that they are struggling. You know, when
43:50
Speaker 3: you're a youth and you're trying to figure it out
43:54
Speaker 3: and you don't have all the answers, and particularly when
43:57
Speaker 3: it comes to sexuality, you don't, you know, you're at
44:00
Speaker 3: the age where it almost anything goes for a while.
44:03
Speaker 3: And and so, but yes, corrective rape, I have I've
44:07
Speaker 3: heard you know, have you ever heard of a gay
44:10
Speaker 3: man correctively raping a straight man to try to make
44:12
Speaker 3: him gay Have have you ever heard of that?
44:16
Speaker 4: No? No, I mean we, in fact we we we.
44:19
Speaker 4: The earlier part of our cast today, this gay we
44:23
Speaker 4: was about being quite opposite, based of the therapist just granted,
44:29
Speaker 4: but reasonable inference of shame based reactive violence, based on
44:36
Speaker 4: socially not sanctioned behavior being in exipon because it's the
44:41
Speaker 4: person's actual orientation, right, I mean, gets the bear whatever,
44:44
Speaker 4: tragic bear two bear to thank you, thank you that
44:49
Speaker 4: I'm forgetting that. Yeah, so it's you know, so.
44:51
Speaker 3: It's see if it would have been bear claw, we
44:52
Speaker 3: all would remember both underlie, right, and we force people
44:56
Speaker 3: to live under these lies, and then we wonder why
44:59
Speaker 3: they act out in such ways. It's like because you've
45:01
Speaker 3: been forcing them to be someone they're not, you know.
45:05
Speaker 3: And to end with today is something really nice, which
45:08
Speaker 3: is a gay Kentucky eighth grader, which right there has
45:12
Speaker 3: the makings of a mini series, just that I could
45:16
Speaker 3: go in and pitch that to a studio. A gay
45:18
Speaker 3: Kentucky eighth grader say, no more, let's sign, let's sign
45:23
Speaker 3: the documents, let's get this show produced. But yeah, exactly,
45:29
Speaker 3: A gay Kentucky eighth grader Daniel maddingly gave a speech
45:35
Speaker 3: to the Stewart Academy in Louisville, and he, you know,
45:39
Speaker 3: was a graduation speaker. And this is a smart kid,
45:42
Speaker 3: because we usually are. But he said in his speech
45:46
Speaker 3: at the end that this school is fucking ridiculous. What
45:49
Speaker 3: he was saying about the racism and homophobia that he
45:55
Speaker 3: experienced at his school. It has since gone viral, but well,
46:01
Speaker 3: it is very very very brave, and it is it
46:04
Speaker 3: is how do I say this? The fact that this
46:10
Speaker 3: eighth grader in Kentucky felt empowered to do this means
46:16
Speaker 3: two things. A he's got good parents, that's the first thing.
46:20
Speaker 3: And second of all, that there's an element of fearlessness
46:24
Speaker 3: to him because think about where he grew up, how
46:29
Speaker 3: he grew up, who he you know, who is at
46:32
Speaker 3: the Stewart Academy in Kentucky, and what it took to
46:37
Speaker 3: actually make that speech. So we often talk a lot
46:42
Speaker 3: about the bad things. But he said, apparently this school
46:45
Speaker 3: doesn't know better than to give an angry gay kid
46:47
Speaker 3: a microphone. Daniel maddingly said in the short speech, I
46:53
Speaker 3: love that. Apparently the school doesn't know any better than
46:56
Speaker 3: to give an angry gay kid a microphone. The school
46:59
Speaker 3: had asked him to give speech after his time on
47:01
Speaker 3: the student council.
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Speaker 4: He's like, so student council must have been even more fire.
47:07
Speaker 3: Ah, he said. When my father died, I was in
47:10
Speaker 3: sixth grade, sitting alone at lunch every single day. I
47:13
Speaker 3: was getting bullied by the people I called my friends.
47:15
Speaker 3: I missed an ungodly amount of school because of my
47:18
Speaker 3: dad's death and my mom's sickness. It wasn't very different
47:21
Speaker 3: in seventh grade. After my mom died, I was being
47:24
Speaker 3: taken care of by my sister. He lost both parents,
47:27
Speaker 3: who taught me to clean around the house, but she
47:29
Speaker 3: was struggling with grief and other personal problems while in
47:31
Speaker 3: an extremely abusive relationship. He also discussed relationship difficulties and
47:36
Speaker 3: the impact of his mental health that the middle school
47:39
Speaker 3: had not having any friends took atoll on me. This
47:44
Speaker 3: is modern day kids, twenty twenty six. I was close
47:46
Speaker 3: to committing suicide the week my boyfriend, my only friend
47:51
Speaker 3: at the time, broke up with me. In fact, it
47:53
Speaker 3: still has since My best friend ever, Ava is the
47:56
Speaker 3: only reason anybody knows my name in this school. Kid
48:00
Speaker 3: right now, right now, and do you hear we know
48:03
Speaker 3: from last week that the number of lgbtq Q youth
48:08
Speaker 3: committing suicide is once again in an all town, all
48:10
Speaker 3: time high. I had a speech ready to cheer on
48:14
Speaker 3: and encourage any oppressed youth which makes up the entirety
48:16
Speaker 3: of this school. Isn't that an interesting statement? I was
48:20
Speaker 3: told by mister Dawson and miss Ims that there's a
48:23
Speaker 3: time and a place. My speech is too negative and
48:25
Speaker 3: too controversial. This school is built on racism, sexism, and homophobia.
48:30
Speaker 3: I encourage everyone here today to stand up for yourself,
48:33
Speaker 3: even if it makes a scene. This school is fucking ridiculous.
48:37
Speaker 3: I only hope it is my sincerest wish that this
48:43
Speaker 3: little kid here this what's his name? I can't find
48:46
Speaker 3: us Daniel maddingly runs for office one day. That is
48:50
Speaker 3: my wish. Because he showed his speech to the powers
48:53
Speaker 3: to be, they said, no, you can't do it. He
48:56
Speaker 3: sat down at the microphone and not only did it,
48:59
Speaker 3: but took it. Congratulations to this kid.
49:04
Speaker 4: If I may, Daniel, if you're if someone you know
49:08
Speaker 4: or someone who knows and happens to see this podcast
49:12
Speaker 4: in the future, and if I get guardians support, if
49:16
Speaker 4: it's you're still that age at the time, I would
49:18
Speaker 4: happily give you some interviews and profilow your story.
49:23
Speaker 3: As you should. He goes, I'm on the news now,
49:25
Speaker 3: so I'm like it's got where it needed to be.
49:29
Speaker 3: So he's happy the story went viral and he's happy
49:33
Speaker 3: it went to the news because he wanted to call
49:35
Speaker 3: out the Stewart Academy. And I love how he said
49:38
Speaker 3: something that is so powerful. He doesn't even understand how
49:41
Speaker 3: powerful this is. I had something ready for it to
49:45
Speaker 3: encourage any oppressed youth, which makes up the entirety of
49:49
Speaker 3: this school. That's so powerful. We think all kids are
49:55
Speaker 3: well adjusted, except the minorities, the gays, the blacks. Nope,
49:59
Speaker 3: every single middle age school kid feels oppressed in some way,
50:04
Speaker 3: shape or form, or feels put upon or feels like
50:08
Speaker 3: the world is too much, every single one of them.
50:12
Speaker 3: And when we start recognizing that that it's not just
50:16
Speaker 3: the gay kids. Every kid in middle school is just
50:20
Speaker 3: trying to fucking figure it out and we're not really
50:23
Speaker 3: helping them with what we're doing. All right, Scott's in Ukraine,
50:27
Speaker 3: it's this gay Week. I am Corel. You gotta be
50:30
Speaker 3: who you want to be. Anybody, Just like Daniel said,
50:35
Speaker 3: this school is fucking ridiculous.
50:39
Speaker 4: I love that one.
50:41
Speaker 3: Ridiculous from an eighth grader.
50:44
Speaker 8: Okay, run for office, Oh we do.
51:08
Speaker 3: I didn't realize we had one more because Daniel just
51:10
Speaker 3: took me there. This school is fucking ridiculous. You know.
51:13
Speaker 3: I was my graduation speaker. I was in twelfth grade,
51:16
Speaker 3: Long Beach CALLI at the Long Yeah, at the Long
51:20
Speaker 3: Beach Arena. Eighteen thousand people in attendance because our graduating
51:25
Speaker 3: class was twenty seven hundred people.
51:27
Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden numbers.
51:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I've always been in the big time, honey,
51:32
Speaker 3: and I'll never forget. I look back on it now.
51:35
Speaker 3: But my open I still remember my opening line because
51:40
Speaker 3: it's so gay. I go up there. I'm in my
51:43
Speaker 3: cap and gown. I have my barber striis and stars
51:45
Speaker 3: born perm the same hair that she had and a
51:48
Speaker 3: star is born done at John Peters salon, the same
51:51
Speaker 3: person that gave her her Hairdoo. John didn't do mine
51:56
Speaker 3: because I would have done John. Barbara could have been
51:58
Speaker 3: mad at me. But but I go up there and
52:03
Speaker 3: I stand there in front of twenty thousand people. Didn't
52:06
Speaker 3: phase me. Even then. I was like whatever, And my
52:10
Speaker 3: first line was what are you doing the rest of
52:12
Speaker 3: your life? Well, that's the musical question posed by Marilyn
52:16
Speaker 3: and Alan Bergman in the song of the same name
52:19
Speaker 3: on the barbar streisand album The Way We Were Now.
52:23
Speaker 3: You might not think that's groundbreaking, but I went to
52:26
Speaker 3: an all black high school who knew Barbara streisand from
52:29
Speaker 3: Bupkis okay had I said, you know, I don't know
52:33
Speaker 3: Gladys Knight or you know someone like that or at
52:37
Speaker 3: the time, Sequence or sugar Hill Gang, We're gonna funk
52:40
Speaker 3: What was a sugar Hill hip hop? A hip a
52:43
Speaker 3: hibited a hip hip hop? Yeah, that was that came
52:46
Speaker 3: out when I was in Knight. That came out in
52:49
Speaker 3: high school. And then Sequence did the answer to that,
52:52
Speaker 3: which was We're going to funk you up. And Sequences
52:55
Speaker 3: where angieb or Angie Stone came from a great vocalist
52:59
Speaker 3: who recently died car crash because she owed her label
53:02
Speaker 3: Odor over sixty million dollars and she was suing and
53:04
Speaker 3: then what do you know, she dies in a car crash.
53:07
Speaker 3: But anyway, so I I'll never forget that. I was
53:12
Speaker 3: in a play at Long Beach Polly and the Big
53:16
Speaker 3: Gay Guy, and I was very gay on stage, and
53:19
Speaker 3: I had a gang nemesis. I had a crip. He
53:22
Speaker 3: was in the crypts. He hated Gaithe some reason he
53:25
Speaker 3: was at this play, Okay, I don't know why. So
53:28
Speaker 3: he comes backstage and I'm thinking, I'm going to die
53:30
Speaker 3: on opening night. He's going to come and he's gonna
53:33
Speaker 3: kill me, you know, because he had made it clear
53:35
Speaker 3: he wanted to. He walks up to me and he says,
53:39
Speaker 3: because we did a we had our graduation and the
53:42
Speaker 3: drama department did a play afterwards for the not at
53:45
Speaker 3: the arena, but at the school as sort of a
53:48
Speaker 3: goodbye sort of thing, and we had a party afterwards.
53:50
Speaker 3: And he walks up and he says, you know, I
53:53
Speaker 3: have to stop teasing you. And I said, okay, why
53:58
Speaker 3: And he said, you're really talented. He said, you're extraordinarily funny.
54:03
Speaker 3: You carried the whole play. Uh, your speech was wonderful.
54:06
Speaker 3: And you know, I just got to fucking leave you
54:08
Speaker 3: alone now because and he goes and by the way,
54:10
Speaker 3: you're protected now. No one's gonna bother you. Uh. And
54:14
Speaker 3: I just and I looked and I thought, it's so
54:17
Speaker 3: funny when you live an authentic life when you when
54:19
Speaker 3: you're out, when you're proud, when you don't give a
54:21
Speaker 3: fuck if you get killed or not, when you just
54:23
Speaker 3: have to be you, A lot of times you break
54:26
Speaker 3: down those walls. And I bet this kid, I bet
54:30
Speaker 3: he had, you know, because he said he had no friends,
54:32
Speaker 3: he was bullied all of that. I bet now parents
54:35
Speaker 3: are gone and his parents are gone. I bet now
54:38
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of friends. I bet now even
54:41
Speaker 3: some of the kids that maybe bullied him before actually
54:45
Speaker 3: give him props now because he stood up and he
54:48
Speaker 3: wasn't afraid, and he said the school fucking sucks.
54:53
Speaker 4: The school is fucking ridiculous.
54:55
Speaker 3: And I bet even the biggest homophobe went, yeah, right.
55:02
Speaker 3: So you know, it gives me hope. Daniel gives me
55:09
Speaker 3: hope a because, like I said, just the opening line,
55:12
Speaker 3: Gay Kentucky, eighth grader.
55:17
Speaker 4: Necessity is the mother of invention, but not only for
55:20
Speaker 4: human inventions.
55:22
Speaker 3: I think desperation has something to do with it as well.
55:26
Speaker 4: When desperation can be reframed as necessity.
55:29
Speaker 3: It's true, you know. I think he was desperate for
55:32
Speaker 3: friends and for acceptance and for love, and he finally
55:36
Speaker 3: had had enough and just spoke out against it. I
55:39
Speaker 3: hope there are going to be more kids in Kentucky
55:41
Speaker 3: like him. I'm sure he has given hope to some
55:44
Speaker 3: kids because someone heard that. Some other kid in Kentucky
55:48
Speaker 3: heard that and now feels better about their life, Kentucky
55:53
Speaker 3: being one of the states. I think we should get
55:55
Speaker 3: rid of my topic on the show. On Wednesday, I
55:59
Speaker 3: watched the documentary on Abraham Lincoln, and I contend America
56:03
Speaker 3: has not made its two hundred and fiftieth birthday. I
56:05
Speaker 3: think America only lived eighty nine years. I really believe
56:09
Speaker 3: in my heart of hearts that America died in eighteen
56:12
Speaker 3: sixty one with the start of the Civil War and
56:15
Speaker 3: the thirteen states that seceded from the Union. If you
56:19
Speaker 3: look at those states, Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida,
56:25
Speaker 3: the Carolinas, Kentucky, Missouri. If you look at those thirteen
56:30
Speaker 3: states that became the Confederacy, they have never wanted what
56:34
Speaker 3: we're selling. They've never wanted the Constitution. They still don't.
56:38
Speaker 3: That's Magga territory. That those are the red states. Those
56:41
Speaker 3: are the states that don't want mixed races. They don't
56:45
Speaker 3: want gay people, they want white Christian nationalism. And that's
56:49
Speaker 3: because the Civil War never ended. Lincoln thought it did
56:52
Speaker 3: in eighteen sixty five, but it didn't end the South,
56:56
Speaker 3: and the descendants of the people in the South still
56:59
Speaker 3: want what they wanted in eighteen sixty one. And that's
57:02
Speaker 3: why we continually have the fighting that we do in
57:05
Speaker 3: this country. The Red States completely and totally do not
57:09
Speaker 3: want the Constitution. They don't they don't believe in equality
57:13
Speaker 3: for all. They don't believe that everybody has inalienable rights.
57:17
Speaker 3: They believe that white Christian nationalists should run the show,
57:21
Speaker 3: and they've believed that since the eighteen sixties. And so
57:23
Speaker 3: I don't think America made two fifty. I think that
57:26
Speaker 3: we are too ashamed to say that we are not
57:29
Speaker 3: the United States, we are not united at all, and
57:32
Speaker 3: that there are thirteen states that wish they were not
57:35
Speaker 3: part of our union. And I say let them go.
57:38
Speaker 3: I think we should revisit the eighteen sixty five Appomatos
57:41
Speaker 3: peace and let them go and then see how far
57:44
Speaker 3: they get, because I'm tired of fighting with them. I'm
57:47
Speaker 3: tired of kids like Daniel having to speak out against
57:51
Speaker 3: his school in Kentucky when he should be in New
57:53
Speaker 3: York obviously, or Massachusetts or Washington or Oregon or California.
57:58
Speaker 3: You know, they don't want what we're selling. They don't
58:00
Speaker 3: want it. They don't want it. Scott, I'm old and
58:03
Speaker 3: I've lived in this country sixty three years, and they're
58:06
Speaker 3: if you ever have you ever been to Alabama, Louisiana
58:08
Speaker 3: or Georgia or Mississippi.
58:11
Speaker 4: I took a big w on Amtrak.
58:14
Speaker 3: I mean, Ben been there, been there for like you know,
58:17
Speaker 3: been there.
58:19
Speaker 4: Not significant.
58:21
Speaker 3: It's a different country. No, it's a different country. It
58:24
Speaker 3: really is. When you go to the South. It is
58:27
Speaker 3: not America. Everyone said, though, this is really America. No,
58:30
Speaker 3: it's actually not America. It's a different type. All right,
58:34
Speaker 3: we will hope Americans per country. Yeah, it's not. It's
58:40
Speaker 3: a different country. All right. We'll be back next week,
58:42
Speaker 3: but more of this gay week with Scott in the Ukraine.
58:44
Speaker 3: I don't know when you're leaving, Na, it's going to
58:46
Speaker 3: be my Ukrainians flam so long. Someday he'll maybe by
58:52
Speaker 3: the time I'm a citizen who'll be back in Kansas
58:55
Speaker 2: From a completely different place.