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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.
- 0:01Speaker 2: I hope you find this week's lecture interesting, compelling and useful.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I've also written and posted a diatribe against the climate
- 0:10Speaker 2: change apocalypse mongers, outlining the true ecological significance of industrial
- 0:17Speaker 2: carbon dioxide production.
- 0:19Speaker 1: It's not what you think. It's certainly not what you've
- 0:21Speaker 1: been told.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Anyways, check it out if you're interested. I think it's
- 0:26Speaker 2: one of the better journalism pieces that I've written. I
- 0:30Speaker 2: have been writing a bit lately, so I think that's
- 0:33Speaker 2: a good thing.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I hope you agree. Note, the essay, the diatribe, is
- 0:39Speaker 1: available on X at Jordan B.
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- 0:52Speaker 1: On with the show. Thank you all. So I want
- 1:32Speaker 1: to talk to you tonight about.
- 1:33Speaker 3: The last part of the story of Moses and the Israelites.
- 1:46Speaker 1: After the commandments. And I want to do that because
- 1:57Speaker 1: The story of Moses and the Israelites is an archetypal story.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And what that means is that it's a story that
- 2:06Speaker 1: has been stripped to its essence. The essence of the
- 2:13Speaker 1: story is a story that is always happening. That's how
- 2:19Speaker 1: it's true. It's true in that it happened and it's
- 2:23Speaker 1: always happening and it will continue to happen. And that's
- 2:27Speaker 1: a very interesting form of truth. That's the truth of
- 2:31Speaker 1: the eternal narrative. It's the truth of the story of
- 2:36Speaker 1: the individual and man and God. Always and forever. That's
- 2:42Speaker 1: a good way of thinking about it. Now, there's a
- 2:49Speaker 1: particular reason that Moses gets the commandments. And this is...
- 2:56Speaker 1: perhaps how they should be most deeply understood. After the
- 3:01Speaker 1: Israelites are led away from tyranny and across the chaos
- 3:11Speaker 1: of the Red Sea, they enter the desert where they
- 3:19Speaker 1: wander for three generations, 40 years. And it's not that
- 3:24Speaker 1: long a trip. Not geographically, but the duration of their
- 3:31Speaker 1: wanderings indicate that the eternal truth that if you're lost,
- 3:37Speaker 1: it can take you forever to get to where you're headed. Right.
- 3:42Speaker 1: It reflects also the fact that the fact of their
- 3:45Speaker 1: sojourn in the desert also reflects something that's very much
- 3:48Speaker 1: worth knowing. It's a crucial realization in relationship to individual
- 3:57Speaker 1: and social psychology, we all face the threat of tyranny.
- 4:07Speaker 1: That's why the story of Moses is a universal and
- 4:11Speaker 1: eternally true story. Every person has to contend with the
- 4:18Speaker 1: reality of tyranny and slavery. So, for example, you might
- 4:22Speaker 1: be the slave of your habits or the slave of
- 4:25Speaker 1: your presumptions. or the slave of your pride, or the
- 4:28Speaker 1: slave of your appetites. Those are all forces that tyrannize
- 4:34Speaker 1: over you, but that you enable with your slavish habits.
- 4:39Speaker 1: That's a good way of thinking about it. You might
- 4:41Speaker 1: be a tyrant in your marriage. You might be a
- 4:43Speaker 1: tyrant in your workplace. You might be a tyrant in
- 4:48Speaker 1: your utterances on X. You might be a tyrant to
- 4:55Speaker 1: your children. You might live under a political tyranny. And
- 5:05Speaker 1: you have to contend with the fact of your own
- 5:08Speaker 1: proclivity to slavish conduct. And so, the landscape of tyranny
- 5:18Speaker 1: and slavery is the landscape that everyone by necessity traverses.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And the genuine leader, which is what Moses is, is
- 5:27Speaker 1: the is the man who learns to stand up against
- 5:31Speaker 1: the forces of tyranny and who forever leads those who
- 5:35Speaker 1: are enslaved away from the tyrant, across the sea of chaos,
- 5:40Speaker 1: into the desert, and toward the promised land. And the
- 5:44Speaker 1: reason for that is that we're always moving to some
- 5:49Speaker 1: destination that we desire. That's the journey of life, is
- 5:53Speaker 1: to move from the State or condition that we presently occupy.
- 5:58Speaker 1: To the next highest mountaintop. And then after that to
- 6:02Speaker 1: the mountaintop above that. And then past that to the
- 6:05Speaker 1: mountaintop past that. And so on. Until the journey comes
- 6:10Speaker 1: to an end. And then you might ask as well.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Why do you cross the Red Sea? Before you enter
- 6:20Speaker 1: the desert. After freeing yourself from tyranny. And the answer is. Well,
- 6:27Speaker 1: when you're under the thumb of a tyrant, you're dependent
- 6:32Speaker 1: and infantile and slavish and possessed of a false certainty.
- 6:38Speaker 1: But when you abandon that or move beyond it, and
- 6:43Speaker 1: that all falls apart, you don't instantaneously find yourself with
- 6:48Speaker 1: the habits of a free and responsible person. you find
- 6:52Speaker 1: yourself in the chaos that's the inevitable bloody aftermath of
- 6:56Speaker 1: the collapse of a tyranny, and then in a period
- 7:00Speaker 1: of chaos and confusion that can last for decades or
- 7:05Speaker 1: lifetimes in the aftermath of that. And if you want
- 7:08Speaker 1: to know why people are willing to be the slaves
- 7:13Speaker 1: even of their own tyranny, one answer to that is
- 7:17Speaker 1: that they're very loath to experience the Red Sea chaos
- 7:22Speaker 1: and the sojourn in the desert lost. That's the inevitable
- 7:27Speaker 1: consequence of moving beyond even the foolish assumptions of a
- 7:33Speaker 1: tyrannical state. Sometimes before you move from being bad to better,
- 7:40Speaker 1: you move from bad to worse. And the fact that
- 7:43Speaker 1: you can move from bad to worse before moving to
- 7:46Speaker 1: better is one of the things that forever keeps you
- 7:49Speaker 1: locked in the kingdom of what's undesirable. It's a great mystery, right?
- 7:55Speaker 1: Because it's a very curious thing that it's unlikely that
- 7:58Speaker 1: people will stand up Against tyranny or reject. Even in
- 8:03Speaker 1: the microcosm of their own life. Within the confines of
- 8:06Speaker 1: their own mind. Within the strictures of their own marriage.
- 8:11Speaker 1: If you understand that when you leave tyranny you're lost.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Then you understand why people are afraid. To move forward
- 8:19Speaker 1: even beyond that which is not. Desirable or acceptable to them.
- 8:26Speaker 1: And Moses is the person who. Leads. He's the embodiment
- 8:30Speaker 1: of the spirit. That forever leads people. Away from tyranny.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Across the Red Sea. And then through the lost desert.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Now what happens in the desert. Is that the Israelites
- 8:42Speaker 1: lose faith. And what does that mean? Well it means that.
- 8:47Speaker 1: When you're lost. It's easy for you to. Despair. To
- 8:55Speaker 1: lose the faith in the future. That's a necessary precondition
- 9:00Speaker 1: of the commitment to move forward. Even to lose faith
- 9:04Speaker 1: in the goodness of not only being, but also of
- 9:07Speaker 1: transformation itself. A cataclysmic loss of faith. And the lost
- 9:12Speaker 1: Israelites lose faith continually and in consequence. And they have
- 9:18Speaker 1: the habits of fractious slaves. And Because they were slaves
- 9:23Speaker 1: for so long, they no longer know how to take
- 9:25Speaker 1: responsibility for themselves. They're not integrated psychologically. They're not mature.
- 9:31Speaker 1: They're immature. They're infantile. They can't regulate their own behavior.
- 9:35Speaker 1: They're hedonistic. They're desirous of power. And they fight amongst
- 9:39Speaker 1: themselves because they don't have the experience or the good
- 9:43Speaker 1: sense or the wisdom or even the desire to adopt
- 9:47Speaker 1: responsibility for regulating their own conduct. And that's part of
- 9:52Speaker 1: the attraction of the hedonism that makes itself manifest in
- 9:55Speaker 1: the story that I'll talk to you about tonight. And
- 9:58Speaker 1: instead of stepping forward to take responsibility so that they
- 10:01Speaker 1: can adjudicate their own conflicts, they call upon Moses to
- 10:06Speaker 1: act as their judge. And that's how fractious, infantile, dependent
- 10:11Speaker 1: slaves rekindle tyranny around them. And so they ask Moses
- 10:16Speaker 1: to sit as judge.
- 10:18Speaker 4: And.
- 10:19Speaker 1: He's already somewhat contemptuous of them because they're so faithless
- 10:23Speaker 1: and hedonistic and immature and puerile and whiny and impossible
- 10:27Speaker 1: to lead and pining for the tyranny and irresponsible. And
- 10:35Speaker 1: he agrees to sit as judge. And the Israelites bring
- 10:38Speaker 1: their troubles to him from dawn till midnight for a decade.
- 10:43Speaker 1: And all he does is hear their squabbles and adjudicate
- 10:49Speaker 1: their disputes like the father of fighting siblings. Imagine your
- 10:54Speaker 1: favorite lecture. Dial that up on Macs, put that on steroids,
- 10:59Speaker 1: and then add some cinematic elements to it. That's the
- 11:01Speaker 1: best way I could describe a Peterson Academy lecture. I
- 11:07Speaker 1: went to college because I had to. I go to
- 11:09Speaker 1: Peterson Academy because I want to. I'm still paying off
- 11:11Speaker 1: college from 10 years ago, and I'm also still questioning
- 11:14Speaker 1: the value that I got out of college. In traditional universities,
- 11:17Speaker 1: a lot of times, it's just pretty dry. They don't
- 11:20Speaker 1: bring the same energy as the professors at Peterson Academy.
- 11:23Speaker 1: It is a completely different experience to learn from somebody
- 11:26Speaker 1: who actually wants to teach you. If you've been on
- 11:28Speaker 1: the events about this, this is the time. That thing
- 11:32Speaker 1: that's calling to you, you won't have an answer for
- 11:33Speaker 1: it unless you enroll and see for yourself. You have
- 11:36Speaker 1: the opportunity to investigate that calling. Now you could understand
- 11:47Speaker 1: that if you perform that role, as perhaps you do
- 11:51Speaker 1: in your positions of responsibility as parents and in the
- 11:54Speaker 1: broader community, that In order to render a judgment that holds,
- 11:59Speaker 1: you have to abide by the principles of natural justice.
- 12:03Speaker 1: That's a good way of thinking about it. So if
- 12:06Speaker 1: I'm sitting as a psychotherapist, and I'm speaking to two
- 12:10Speaker 1: married individuals who are having a conflict, and I'm listening
- 12:13Speaker 1: to their complaints, in order for me to mediate between
- 12:17Speaker 1: them so that they can come together without further conflict,
- 12:21Speaker 1: Tension and and turmoil I have to render a judgment
- 12:26Speaker 1: Let's say if I'm acting in the role of Moses
- 12:29Speaker 1: in that situation after render a judgment that they actually
- 12:32Speaker 1: both find Not only acceptable, but perhaps even desirable. It's
- 12:37Speaker 1: a very difficult thing to manage and A judge whose
- 12:41Speaker 1: judgment stands isn't someone who forces either party to abide
- 12:46Speaker 1: by an arbitrary dictate, but someone who mediates the conflict
- 12:49Speaker 1: such that both parties who are disagreeing view the new
- 12:54Speaker 1: arrangement as preferable to the previous arrangement and to the conflict.
- 12:58Speaker 1: And even perhaps if the judgment isn't perfect, it will
- 13:01Speaker 1: stand if they themselves can't come up with a better solution.
- 13:04Speaker 1: And so now imagine Moses becomes the master of such judgment.
- 13:09Speaker 1: And he does that for a generation. He builds up
- 13:14Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of implicit knowledge about the structure of social,
- 13:19Speaker 1: psychological and social order itself. And that sets the stage. Now,
- 13:26Speaker 1: his father-in-law Jethro comes to him during this time and
- 13:30Speaker 1: says something terrible. of extraordinary importance for the entire history
- 13:34Speaker 1: of Western civilization, and likely the world. He says, you
- 13:38Speaker 1: can't continue to do this. And Moses says, why not?
- 13:42Speaker 1: And he says, well, first of all, you're wearing yourself out.
- 13:47Speaker 1: You're taking responsibility for 100,000 people or more, and no
- 13:52Speaker 1: one can bear that burden and survive. And so it's
- 13:56Speaker 1: not good for you, and it can't sustain itself, and so...
- 14:00Speaker 1: That's not acceptable. It's certainly not ideal, and it's not
- 14:04Speaker 1: even acceptable. And then Jethro says, but it's worse than that,
- 14:08Speaker 1: what you're doing, because by mediating the Israelites' disputes for them,
- 14:13Speaker 1: you take away from them the necessity for their own maturation,
- 14:18Speaker 1: that development. You leave them as slaves, and you're setting
- 14:21Speaker 1: yourself up again as a pharaoh in the desert. And
- 14:25Speaker 1: so he tells Moses, in essence, that... the man who's
- 14:29Speaker 1: supposed to be the prophet of God is being tempted
- 14:32Speaker 1: by the offer of power, and that that's a spiritual
- 14:39Speaker 1: danger to him and a catastrophe for the Israelites, even
- 14:42Speaker 1: though they might be happy about it, because it means
- 14:44Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to bear any responsibility for determining their
- 14:47Speaker 1: own way forward. And so, Jethro tells Moses to have
- 14:54Speaker 1: the people divide themselves into groups of ten, And to
- 14:58Speaker 1: appoint from within that group of ten the best person
- 15:02Speaker 1: to represent that group. And then to gather the representatives
- 15:06Speaker 1: together in groups of ten. And have them elect a
- 15:09Speaker 1: representative of representatives. And to do that all the way
- 15:12Speaker 1: up in groups of ten and fifty. Up to the
- 15:15Speaker 1: level of ten thousands. And for them to mediate their
- 15:18Speaker 1: disputes in accordance with that hierarchy. So if you and
- 15:22Speaker 1: your wife can't get along, you can go to the
- 15:24Speaker 1: local representative. Of ten. And perhaps he can render a judgment.
- 15:29Speaker 1: And if he's unable to solve the problem. Then he
- 15:32Speaker 1: can bump it up. The new hierarchy of distributed responsibility.
- 15:37Speaker 1: To his representative. And if that doesn't work. Then it
- 15:40Speaker 1: can go up the chain of command. Another level. And
- 15:43Speaker 1: if it goes all the way up to the ten thousands.
- 15:45Speaker 1: And it can't be mediated. Then Moses who's the prophet
- 15:48Speaker 1: of God can step in. And only then can he
- 15:51Speaker 1: render a judgment. And that's. That is the erection of
- 15:55Speaker 1: a distributed hierarchy of responsibility as the alternative to the
- 15:59Speaker 1: tyrant and the slave. And that's the model for your country. Right.
- 16:10Speaker 1: And that model only works if people take responsibility at
- 16:13Speaker 1: every single level of the hierarchy. And to the degree
- 16:16Speaker 1: that they take responsibility, they don't need a tyrant. And
- 16:19Speaker 1: they're not slaves. And that means that the absence of
- 16:23Speaker 1: tyranny in your country and the absence of slavery is
- 16:26Speaker 1: not a consequence of the fact that you have rights,
- 16:29Speaker 1: but a reflection of the fact that you bear the
- 16:31Speaker 1: responsibility for governing yourself. Right.
- 16:33Speaker 5: Right.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:39Speaker 1: And the politicians who wish to turn the polity into
- 16:42Speaker 1: a nanny state that does nothing but cater to hedonistic
- 16:46Speaker 1: infants should remember that all that does is call forth
- 16:49Speaker 1: the spirit of tyranny. Right. And that's what happens in
- 16:53Speaker 1: this story. So Moses is well prepared for the revelation
- 17:03Speaker 1: of the law because he's... put himself in a position
- 17:08Speaker 1: to understand the structure of the law by rendering judgment
- 17:12Speaker 1: in a professional capacity for many, many years, for thousands
- 17:16Speaker 1: and thousands of hours. And he receives the revelation of
- 17:20Speaker 1: the Ten Commandments. And the Ten Commandments are the law.
- 17:23Speaker 1: And you might ask yourself, well, what is the law?
- 17:26Speaker 1: And you could say, well, it's the word received from
- 17:29Speaker 1: on high. And there's truth in that, but... It's an
- 17:33Speaker 1: incomplete truth because the law is also a reflection of
- 17:36Speaker 1: the customs and the behaviors of the people, of any
- 17:42Speaker 1: people who've managed to organize a mature self and a
- 17:47Speaker 1: collective community that functions as a consensual structure across time.
- 17:58Speaker 1: So imagine that as you mature, you move away from
- 18:03Speaker 1: The demand that every one of your instinctive whims be
- 18:08Speaker 1: gratified now to the realization that at times you have
- 18:14Speaker 1: to forego what's of immediate value so that you can
- 18:22Speaker 1: thrive and develop over the medium and long run. And
- 18:27Speaker 1: so as you mature, you substitute your narrow self bound
- 18:31Speaker 1: to the moment You substitute for that the iteration of
- 18:35Speaker 1: your future self out into the decades of your adulthood.
- 18:39Speaker 1: And you make the sacrifices of your whim in the
- 18:42Speaker 1: present that increase the probability of your future well-being and
- 18:48Speaker 1: continued growth. That's part of maturation. But that's not the
- 18:52Speaker 1: only part of maturation. The other part of maturation is
- 18:55Speaker 1: that You learn to take turns, let's say, when you're
- 19:00Speaker 1: somewhere between two and four and learning to be a
- 19:04Speaker 1: social creature or a communal creature. And what that means
- 19:07Speaker 1: is that you sacrifice your immediate demands for the sake
- 19:12Speaker 1: of the reciprocal relationship with others. And then you could
- 19:15Speaker 1: imagine that the pattern of sacrifice that serves you as
- 19:19Speaker 1: an individual best in the future and you as an
- 19:22Speaker 1: individual in communal relationship with other people is the same pattern.
- 19:27Speaker 1: And that's the pattern of maturity. And that pattern of
- 19:32Speaker 1: Future sacrifice and communal maturity is the essence of the
- 19:39Speaker 1: behavioral patterns of a sustainable, productive, hospitable, and generous society.
- 19:47Speaker 1: And there's nothing about that that's morally relative. It's very
- 19:52Speaker 1: unlikely that that situation, balanced that well, will emerge. Just
- 19:57Speaker 1: as unlikely as it is that you'll attain a continual
- 20:00Speaker 1: state of productive and generous harmony within the confines of
- 20:03Speaker 1: your marriage or your family. But that doesn't mean that
- 20:07Speaker 1: that state... has no existence, and it doesn't mean that
- 20:10Speaker 1: the pattern of that existence is arbitrary. Quite the contrary.
- 20:14Speaker 1: It means that the harmony that prevails between your current
- 20:18Speaker 1: self and your future self, and you as an isolated
- 20:21Speaker 1: individual and everyone else, is the straight, narrow path that
- 20:25Speaker 1: leads up Jacob's ladder to the kingdom of God. That's
- 20:28Speaker 1: what it means symbolically, right? And that's built into the
- 20:32Speaker 1: structure of That's built into the structure of reality itself.
- 20:36Speaker 1: And the law that comes to Moses is an explicit
- 20:40Speaker 1: representation of that underlying reality. And Moses has access to
- 20:44Speaker 1: it first because he sits as judge. And second, because
- 20:47Speaker 1: in a burst of revelatory intuition, he can make explicit
- 20:52Speaker 1: what up till then has only been implicit ritual and custom.
- 21:01Speaker 1: The emergence of the law is the description of the
- 21:04Speaker 1: customs and rituals that unite a society and that constitute maturity.
- 21:08Speaker 1: And that's what Moses offers his people. Straight from the
- 21:13Speaker 1: lips of God. It takes Moses 40 days to journey
- 21:20Speaker 1: up the mountain and to confer with God and to
- 21:22Speaker 1: receive the revelation and to descend. And during that time,
- 21:27Speaker 1: the state falls into the hands of Aaron. And Aaron
- 21:31Speaker 1: is Moses' political wing. So when Moses is called upon
- 21:37Speaker 1: to be a leader, which happens when he encounters the
- 21:41Speaker 1: burning bush, which is a symbol of life, it's a
- 21:45Speaker 1: symbol of life and its transformations, he objects to the
- 21:50Speaker 1: call telling God that he's not the right man for
- 21:54Speaker 1: the job because he's incapable of speaking in a manner
- 22:00Speaker 1: that is attractive to the public, and God says to
- 22:04Speaker 1: Moses two things. Nothing is impossible when it comes to God,
- 22:11Speaker 1: and second, that Moses' inadequacy is no excuse for his
- 22:15Speaker 1: failure to adopt the responsibility of leadership. And so, and
- 22:21Speaker 1: that's the case for all of us. Because you might think,
- 22:24Speaker 1: not me, but... And you might have a list of
- 22:27Speaker 1: reasons why not you, but none of those reasons suffice.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Not least because the abandonment of that responsibility, even in
- 22:34Speaker 1: the face of your own inadequacy, is the pathway to
- 22:37Speaker 1: slavery and tyranny. And so... When Moses leaves, so this
- 22:50Speaker 1: is when God vanishes, right? Because Moses is the prophetic voice.
- 22:54Speaker 1: When Moses leaves, the fractious slaves conspire with the political
- 23:00Speaker 1: voice to regress into a state of materialistic hedonism. That's
- 23:08Speaker 1: what the worship of the golden calf signifies. So a
- 23:12Speaker 1: calf is a form of... A calf... In a tribal community,
- 23:19Speaker 1: in a nomadic tribal community of herders, wealth is flock.
- 23:26Speaker 1: And a calf is a symbol of stored value. If
- 23:31Speaker 1: you have a calf, you have something to eat. If
- 23:35Speaker 1: you have a calf, you have something to offer your guests.
- 23:38Speaker 1: It's wealth. A golden calf is wealth as such. And
- 23:43Speaker 1: the worship of the golden calf is the worship of
- 23:46Speaker 1: material wealth. It's the worship of the treasure that rusts
- 23:50Speaker 1: on earth. The worship of the treasure that moths can destroy.
- 23:54Speaker 1: And not the worship of the treasure that's properly stored
- 23:57Speaker 1: in heaven that nothing earthly can demolish. Right? The worship
- 24:03Speaker 1: of the golden calf that emerges as a consequence of
- 24:07Speaker 1: the absence of the divine word mediated through Moses is
- 24:11Speaker 1: accompanied by Orgeastic, hedonistic celebration. Because Moses returns to find
- 24:18Speaker 1: the Israelites not only worshipping an idol, which is the
- 24:23Speaker 1: idol of materialistic wealth, but also dancing drunkenly naked in
- 24:29Speaker 1: a manner that makes them the laughing stock of their enemies.
- 24:35Speaker 1: And if you can't see the relevance of that situation
- 24:40Speaker 1: to the current state of the West, then You're part
- 24:43Speaker 1: of the problem and not part of the solution. So
- 24:53Speaker 1: Moses is enraged as a consequence of the faithlessness of
- 24:57Speaker 1: his people. Now, you have to understand too that the
- 25:01Speaker 1: Israelites conspire with Aaron to bring about this state of worship.
- 25:05Speaker 1: And what that means is that the political voice unmoored from...
- 25:13Speaker 1: its concordance with the divine will serve as the handmaid
- 25:20Speaker 1: of the materialistic hedonism of the masses. Right. That's the
- 25:25Speaker 1: danger of an unbridled populism.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Right.
- 25:29Speaker 1: It's consensus to the whim, unmoored by respect for tradition
- 25:34Speaker 1: and upward aim. And it's also the invitation to tyranny.
- 25:40Speaker 1: Because just as the slavish Israelites attempted to transform Moses
- 25:48Speaker 1: into the Pharaoh, being unwilling as they were to bear
- 25:52Speaker 1: the responsibility for their own life, so the hedonistic materialists
- 25:56Speaker 1: of the golden calf worship look to Aaron to become
- 26:01Speaker 1: the tyrant that has to regulate everyone if they insist
- 26:07Speaker 1: upon acting like impulsive toddlers. Moses is enraged by what's
- 26:19Speaker 1: happened and by the faithlessness of his people. And this
- 26:25Speaker 1: is also reflective of something that happens politically. So you
- 26:29Speaker 1: could imagine that as the mob degenerates into hedonism and materialism,
- 26:37Speaker 1: the rulers... called upon to bear the responsibility that the
- 26:42Speaker 1: infantile rabble has abdicated, become increasingly contemptuous of them, and
- 26:50Speaker 1: more and more likely to tyrannize over them in a
- 26:53Speaker 1: manner that is reflective of nothing but the power that's
- 26:57Speaker 1: granted to them by the abdication of responsibility. And so
- 27:02Speaker 1: there's a vicious spiral, right, as the Populist degenerates into short-term, immature,
- 27:09Speaker 1: materialist hedonism, and the rulers gather up all the responsibility
- 27:14Speaker 1: and use it as power. They become simultaneously contemptuous of
- 27:18Speaker 1: the people they're called upon to regulate and treat them
- 27:22Speaker 1: worse and worse. And that's the spiral between hedonism and
- 27:26Speaker 1: tyranny that demolishes the state and produces hell. Right? Always. Always. Always.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Now too. God, Moses demolishes the tablets in a fit
- 27:46Speaker 1: of pique. And maybe as a manifestation of his proclivity
- 27:50Speaker 1: to use excess force. Which is Moses' temptation. Because the
- 27:55Speaker 1: temptation to power is always the temptation of the person
- 27:58Speaker 1: who's called to lead. And it's the temptation of power
- 28:02Speaker 1: that's actually Moses' Achilles heel and the eventual reason why
- 28:05Speaker 1: he's forbidden to enter the promised land. There's another meaning
- 28:11Speaker 1: of the dashing of the tablets. It's the demolition of
- 28:17Speaker 1: the divine presence. And what that means is that as
- 28:21Speaker 1: individuals and societies degenerate into an immature and infantile state,
- 28:27Speaker 1: power-mad materialistic hedonism, their ability to attend to the divine
- 28:37Speaker 1: voice of adventure and truth that calls them forth, and
- 28:43Speaker 1: the willingness and capacity to attend to the dictates of
- 28:46Speaker 1: their own conscience becomes muddied and unclear. In the Gospels,
- 28:52Speaker 1: Christ tells us those who search for the sins of
- 28:56Speaker 1: others to take the beam out of their own eye,
- 28:59Speaker 1: the log, before searching for the dust mote in the
- 29:02Speaker 1: eye of their neighbor. And it's a reflection of the
- 29:04Speaker 1: same idea, that as you practice what is immature and
- 29:09Speaker 1: narrowly self-serving, instead of aiming upward and sacrificing responsibly, your
- 29:16Speaker 1: ability to maintain contact with the divine instinct that moves
- 29:21Speaker 1: you properly forward is... Damaged and possibly beyond repair. And
- 29:28Speaker 1: even in the aftermath of your foolishness. If you repent
- 29:32Speaker 1: and atone. It's not necessarily the case that. You'll be
- 29:36Speaker 1: able to put Humpty Dumpty back together. And what happens.
- 29:40Speaker 1: in the Exodus story is that the Israelites get a
- 29:44Speaker 1: second set of commandments, but this time they're written by
- 29:46Speaker 1: man and not God. And that's an indication of the fact,
- 29:50Speaker 1: twofold fact, that God has decided to recede into the
- 29:54Speaker 1: distance as a consequence of the faithlessness and sin of
- 29:58Speaker 1: the Israelites. And a consequence of the fact that the
- 30:02Speaker 1: secondary covenant that's thereby generated by even Moses, the prophet
- 30:07Speaker 1: of God, is of secondary value compared to the genuine
- 30:12Speaker 1: voice of adventure and calling and conscience that speaks to
- 30:17Speaker 1: everyone from within that would guide them properly even in
- 30:20Speaker 1: the absence of law if they refuse to pervert their
- 30:23Speaker 1: own vision. Right. God tells the Israelites at the same time, well,
- 30:34Speaker 1: first of all, he threatens to destroy them, which he
- 30:37Speaker 1: does quite with some stunning regularity. And that's a characteristic
- 30:42Speaker 1: of the Old Testament God that makes the atheist materialists
- 30:46Speaker 1: of the modern age into prideful critics of the spirit
- 30:50Speaker 1: of the Old Testament, claiming as they might that no
- 30:53Speaker 1: good God would act in such a way. And it's
- 30:56Speaker 1: an absolute mystery to me that in the... Aftermath of
- 31:01Speaker 1: the bloody and catastrophic 20th century where we saw the
- 31:07Speaker 1: dismal descent of states, of massive states like Nazi Germany
- 31:14Speaker 1: and Maoist China and Soviet Socialist China. Soviet Union into
- 31:22Speaker 1: abysses of hell that anyone would dare to claim that
- 31:26Speaker 1: the wages of sin weren't death because that's exactly what
- 31:30Speaker 1: happened there and that's evidence in its purest form That
- 31:36Speaker 1: when people abdicate the responsibility for their own self-governance and
- 31:41Speaker 1: erect a tyrant as a replacement for the divine order
- 31:44Speaker 1: that would properly guide them, that the necessary and inevitable
- 31:48Speaker 1: consequence of that is the opening up of the abyss
- 31:52Speaker 1: of hell and everyone's descent into it. And that is
- 31:57Speaker 1: a reality that threatens continually, that's portrayed in the Old
- 32:02Speaker 1: Testament corpus as the inevitable consequences of departure from the
- 32:08Speaker 1: straight and narrow path. And there's nothing about that, however
- 32:13Speaker 1: terrible that might be, that isn't 100% true. It's like,
- 32:19Speaker 1: Walk off the path, not only at your peril, but
- 32:23Speaker 1: at the peril of everyone you love and everything you
- 32:27Speaker 1: hold dear.
- 32:29Speaker 5: Right.
- 32:29Speaker 1: And you people in the United States have remembered that
- 32:32Speaker 1: well for some 250 years. And God help us all
- 32:37Speaker 1: if you forget it. Moses maintains faith with God, and
- 32:50Speaker 1: that means that the fate of the Israelites themselves is
- 32:54Speaker 1: now dependent on the unmarred relationship between one man and
- 33:01Speaker 1: the divine pathway forward. And that's a terrifying state, but
- 33:08Speaker 1: there's a psychological truth that's embedded in it as well,
- 33:11Speaker 1: which is that it's akin to the realization that The
- 33:18Speaker 1: pathway forward specified by the Christian sacrifice is the hoisting
- 33:23Speaker 1: of the cross of ultimate responsibility onto the shoulders of
- 33:27Speaker 1: the individuals who are true followers of the spirit of divinity.
- 33:31Speaker 1: It's the same idea. And that means everyone.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Right?
- 33:36Speaker 1: Because these stories represent human beings as such. And so...
- 33:42Speaker 1: The fact that Moses maintains his connection with the divine.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Even in the presence of the corruption of his people.
- 33:50Speaker 1: And that that's sufficient to guide the world properly forward.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Is a model for the manner in which you're to
- 33:56Speaker 1: conduct your life. To stand up against tyranny and slavery.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Insofar as you're capable of doing that within the confines
- 34:04Speaker 1: of your own life. And thereby become the light on
- 34:08Speaker 1: the hill that guides other people properly upward. Right. And
- 34:12Speaker 1: that's the same idea as the voluntary acceptance of the responsibility,
- 34:21Speaker 1: of the distributed responsibility of the state that's the alternative
- 34:26Speaker 1: to tyranny and slavery. Those are the same ideas. Now,
- 34:33Speaker 1: as a reward for Moses' faithfulness, God reveals himself even
- 34:38Speaker 1: more fully to his disciples. And he hides Moses in
- 34:44Speaker 1: the cleft of a rock and shields him and walks
- 34:47Speaker 1: by and allows Moses to get a glimpse of his back.
- 34:55Speaker 1: And the back of something is where it's already been.
- 34:59Speaker 1: And the idea there is that as Moses deepens his
- 35:03Speaker 1: relationship with the spirit that calls him forward as leader,
- 35:09Speaker 1: his ability to apprehend the manifestations of the divine in
- 35:13Speaker 1: the workings of the world increases and deepens. To the
- 35:18Speaker 1: point where it's virtually unbearable. But that his intrinsic goodness
- 35:23Speaker 1: and willingness to make the sacrifices necessary to transform as
- 35:28Speaker 1: a leader protects him against the destruction that would otherwise
- 35:32Speaker 1: visit him when exposed too cataclysmically to evil. To the
- 35:38Speaker 1: divine fire itself. Moses sets up the tabernacle. Which is
- 35:46Speaker 1: the church around which the community is founded. On the
- 35:49Speaker 1: edge of the Israelite encampments. Because they've departed so badly.
- 35:54Speaker 1: From their relationship. Their covenantal relationship with God. And he
- 36:00Speaker 1: continues his dialogue. With the spirit that guides him. And he.
- 36:05Speaker 1: In consequence of that, and the Israelites' forthright decision to
- 36:11Speaker 1: repent and to return to the proper path, God relents
- 36:14Speaker 1: and either emerges to lead the Israelites again, or sends
- 36:19Speaker 1: an angel to guide them. If it's the angel or
- 36:24Speaker 1: God himself, it's a worthy replacement for the secondary tablets,
- 36:30Speaker 1: and it's an indication of the fact that even in
- 36:34Speaker 1: the aftermath of egregious error, meditation on upward aim and
- 36:42Speaker 1: willingness to confess, repent and atone can reestablish the relationship
- 36:51Speaker 1: between the spirit of adventure, calling and conscience that serves
- 36:55Speaker 1: as the alternative to subjugation to a tyrant. Right, and
- 37:00Speaker 1: this is a good thing to know in your own
- 37:02Speaker 1: life because it means that even if you've lost your
- 37:05Speaker 1: way and are in the desert wandering blindly and hopelessly
- 37:08Speaker 1: and ridden with anxiety and in a contentious and fractious
- 37:14Speaker 1: and faithless mood, if you Make the sacrifices necessary. To
- 37:19Speaker 1: put yourself back together. And approach the problem. With sufficient humility.
- 37:24Speaker 1: And that would be a humility. Proportionate to the magnitude
- 37:27Speaker 1: of your sins. Unfortunately. Then you have the. The offer.
- 37:33Speaker 1: For you to reattain. The relationship with the. Even what
- 37:38Speaker 1: would you say. Divine forces of instinct. That would otherwise
- 37:41Speaker 1: lead you forward properly. You have the option of reestablishing.
- 37:45Speaker 1: That relationship. And that's a wonderful thing to understand because
- 37:51Speaker 1: it means that even if and when you wander, which
- 37:56Speaker 1: is a certainty that there is still the possibility of
- 38:00Speaker 1: return to the straight and narrow path. And so the
- 38:05Speaker 1: Israelites continue their voyage forward. Onward into the desert. But
- 38:19Speaker 1: their bad habits reemerge. Despite the fact that they're provided
- 38:29Speaker 1: with sufficient sustenance as they move forward. The manna from heaven,
- 38:35Speaker 1: which is spiritual food. And the quails, which represent food
- 38:42Speaker 1: as such in its material form. The sustenance of the
- 38:46Speaker 1: Israelites being the balance between wisdom and corporal nourishment that
- 38:51Speaker 1: are necessary preconditions for life. The Israelites are provided with
- 38:55Speaker 1: sufficient sustenance, spiritually and materially, but they begin to... They
- 39:11Speaker 1: begin to cultivate their own desires. They fall prey to
- 39:14Speaker 1: the sin of hedonistic gluttony. And they start to complain
- 39:19Speaker 1: that the sufficiency with which they've been provided was inadequate.
- 39:25Speaker 1: They come to despise the manna. and the quails and
- 39:31Speaker 1: to demand even a return to the tyranny of Egypt
- 39:35Speaker 1: so that they can enjoy a more diverse plethora of
- 39:40Speaker 1: hedonistically enjoyable pleasure. They cultivate their own desires. They're ungrateful
- 39:56Speaker 1: to be provided with what's strictly and appropriately necessary. And
- 40:02Speaker 1: so they fall prey again to the pull of this
- 40:07Speaker 1: immature demand for immediate gratification. And the punishment that God
- 40:12Speaker 1: brings forward is twofold. The first is that He provides
- 40:21Speaker 1: them with so many. With so much food. In the
- 40:25Speaker 1: form of quails. That. It's literally stacked. Three feet high.
- 40:31Speaker 1: As far as they can see. And coming out of
- 40:35Speaker 1: their nostrils. And so. The. Consequence of their. Cultivation of their.
- 40:43Speaker 1: Narcissistic desire. Is. The production of a surfite. That's so.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Overwhelming that it. Destroys appetite itself. That's what we're doing
- 40:58Speaker 1: with pornography. After the. Excess. Plague of the quails. Comes
- 41:10Speaker 1: a genuine plague. And the Israelites. Not only perish in
- 41:15Speaker 1: large numbers. As a consequence of their. Reversion to. ingratitude
- 41:22Speaker 1: and immaturity, hedonistic gluttony. But they also move further into
- 41:30Speaker 1: the desert. And what's the consequence of that? They encounter
- 41:48Speaker 1: a drought. A drought. Now Christ describes himself as the
- 41:52Speaker 1: living water. And the image of the drought in the
- 41:57Speaker 1: biblical corpus has a two-fold meaning. It's the emergent sterility
- 42:03Speaker 1: of the environment. You remember in the Lion King, most
- 42:07Speaker 1: of you have seen that, when scar emerges to rule,
- 42:11Speaker 1: the landscape parches and all the provision disappears. And what
- 42:16Speaker 1: that means is that when... the state deteriorates, the natural
- 42:23Speaker 1: resources vanish. And the reason for that is there's no
- 42:26Speaker 1: such thing as a natural resource. There's the provision of
- 42:31Speaker 1: what's necessary as a consequence of the establishment of the
- 42:34Speaker 1: state that's functional enough to provide everyone within it what's sufficient,
- 42:41Speaker 1: including water. For most of human history, it's been impossible
- 42:47Speaker 1: for people to get access to clean water, because water
- 42:51Speaker 1: is not a natural resource. If you have a large population,
- 42:54Speaker 1: it takes a tremendous amount of organization to structure society
- 42:59Speaker 1: such that a sufficient degree of technological expertise that's true
- 43:05Speaker 1: can be devoted... to the problem of the provision of water,
- 43:08Speaker 1: and so that water can be distributed without corruption, without enslavement,
- 43:13Speaker 1: and without excess cost. And you might think that that's
- 43:16Speaker 1: a technological issue with a technological solution, but it's not.
- 43:23Speaker 1: It's a moral issue with a moral solution, because if
- 43:26Speaker 1: the state organizes itself... in accordance with the principles that
- 43:32Speaker 1: we already described, which is the adoption of maximal responsibility
- 43:37Speaker 1: by the individuals within the state, by their sacrifice of
- 43:41Speaker 1: their current whims to the benefit of their future selves
- 43:46Speaker 1: and to the community, then the state organizes itself so
- 43:50Speaker 1: that even the deserts can bloom. And that's a moral
- 43:53Speaker 1: effort and not a technological effort, even though the technological
- 43:58Speaker 1: effort can... Aid the moral effort. If the foundation is
- 44:01Speaker 1: laid properly. Which is what's happened again in your country.
- 44:05Speaker 1: In the maid. Now. The Israelites are very upset. Because
- 44:15Speaker 1: they've gone deeper into the desert. And because they've corrupted
- 44:18Speaker 1: their state to the point where they can't determine how
- 44:22Speaker 1: to provision themselves with water. And so they get whiny
- 44:26Speaker 1: and fractious and complaining and victim-y and bitter and miserable.
- 44:29Speaker 1: And they go whine to Moses saying, Because they always
- 44:33Speaker 1: turn to Moses when times are tough. And they ask
- 44:37Speaker 1: Moses to intercede with God so that the water can
- 44:40Speaker 1: flow once again. And so Moses goes and has a
- 44:43Speaker 1: chat with God. And he intercedes on behalf of the Israelites,
- 44:47Speaker 1: even though he's not very happy with them. And God
- 44:50Speaker 1: says to Moses something very specific. He says... He specifies...
- 45:00Speaker 1: a location, a rocky location in the desert. And he
- 45:04Speaker 1: tells Moses to go to that location with his people
- 45:07Speaker 1: and speak to the rocks and ask them to bring
- 45:11Speaker 1: forth water. And Moses listens and he tells the Israelites
- 45:16Speaker 1: and they follow him to the place of rocks. And Moses,
- 45:21Speaker 1: with Aaron, takes out his staff, which is a symbol
- 45:26Speaker 1: of his authority and a tool of coercion Force and power.
- 45:33Speaker 1: And he hits the rocks with his. With the rod
- 45:37Speaker 1: of tradition. Thus using force when he's called upon by
- 45:43Speaker 1: the divine itself. To offer even to the rocks an
- 45:46Speaker 1: invitation and not a command. And the consequence of that
- 45:52Speaker 1: is that the rocks do indeed bring forth water. But
- 45:57Speaker 1: God tells Moses that as a consequence of his disobedience,
- 46:01Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's led the Israelites for his
- 46:03Speaker 1: whole life, away from tyranny, across the Red Sea, and
- 46:07Speaker 1: through the desert, for 40 years, that he will die
- 46:10Speaker 1: before he enters the promised land. And here's the reason.
- 46:14Speaker 1: If you use force, when you're called upon to use invitation,
- 46:19Speaker 1: you will corrupt the state, and you will fail to
- 46:22Speaker 1: lead your people to the promised land. And that includes you. Right.
- 46:28Speaker 1: And we've seen plenty of that, too. So it's worse
- 46:34Speaker 1: than that, because not only is Moses now forbidden to
- 46:39Speaker 1: enter the promised land, even though he can see it
- 46:41Speaker 1: in front of him, Aaron dies. And what that means
- 46:45Speaker 1: is that the state itself is in peril when it
- 46:48Speaker 1: turns to force, when invitation will suffice. Right. Right. All
- 46:53Speaker 1: policy based on force is bad policy. Right. It undermines trust.
- 46:59Speaker 1: And it's the gateway to tyranny. Aaron dies. Worse. Previous
- 47:14Speaker 1: to this. In the desert before the episode with the rocks.
- 47:23Speaker 1: There's a rebellion in the desert. And it's led by
- 47:26Speaker 1: a man named Korah. And the rebellion is extremely interesting.
- 47:32Speaker 1: So the Israelites are all fractious and whiny and resentful
- 47:36Speaker 1: and hedonistic and materialistic and faithless and without courage. And
- 47:44Speaker 1: Korah comes along. And he offers them a revolution. And
- 47:48Speaker 1: this is how he justifies the revolution. He tells Moses
- 47:52Speaker 1: and Aaron... that what they claim as divine authority is
- 47:57Speaker 1: nothing other than their use of arbitrary power. Right? It's
- 48:04Speaker 1: exactly the same refrain you hear now. This is exactly
- 48:08Speaker 1: the refrain that you hear from your so-called institutions of
- 48:11Speaker 1: higher learning that insist that all manifestations of your culture,
- 48:17Speaker 1: male ambition, marriage, family, patriarchal community, business, state, and government
- 48:26Speaker 1: are nothing but the manifestations of power, and that that
- 48:30Speaker 1: power is arbitrary, oppressive, and victimizing, and all of those
- 48:35Speaker 1: who don't have, who aren't basking in success, are not
- 48:43Speaker 1: failing in consequence of their own unwillingness to make the
- 48:47Speaker 1: necessary sacrifices, but virtuous victims of arbitrary power. And that's
- 48:54Speaker 1: what Torah tells the Israelites. Now, the thing is, is
- 48:58Speaker 1: his accusation is justified to some degree because the primary
- 49:02Speaker 1: temptation of Moses is the use of force, right? Early
- 49:06Speaker 1: in his life, when he sees one of his Hebrew brothers,
- 49:10Speaker 1: when he's an adolescent in Egypt, slayed or beaten by
- 49:15Speaker 1: an Egyptian aristocrat, he kills the Egyptian. That's why he
- 49:18Speaker 1: has to flee Egypt. from Egypt. Moses has a proclivity
- 49:22Speaker 1: to use force, and this is the eternal temptation of
- 49:25Speaker 1: the leader. And so when Korah emerges to tell the
- 49:28Speaker 1: fractious Israelites that the reason they're followers in Moses as
- 49:33Speaker 1: a leader is because he's the oppressive tyrant of power,
- 49:41Speaker 1: there's a element of truth in the accusation that's sufficient
- 49:45Speaker 1: to give it credibility and that's another indication of the
- 49:49Speaker 1: terrible sin that moses makes manifest when he misuses his
- 49:55Speaker 1: authority because he has this power granted to him not
- 50:00Speaker 1: by power but by his alliance with the underlying structure
- 50:05Speaker 1: of the moral world itself, and when he uses force,
- 50:10Speaker 1: when it's not required, he validates the revolutionary tendencies of
- 50:16Speaker 1: the usurpers and puts the state in danger. Now, the
- 50:21Speaker 1: counter position to the notion that Moses is nothing but
- 50:24Speaker 1: a wielder of power, an objection to which he, an
- 50:28Speaker 1: accusation to which he objects, I've never taken anything for
- 50:32Speaker 1: my services, is the counter proposition that it's of unbelievable
- 50:39Speaker 1: convenience to those who fail to make the proper sacrifices,
- 50:45Speaker 1: like Cain, who become bitter and resentful in consequence of
- 50:50Speaker 1: their inevitable failure, who degenerate into a homicidal vengefulness as
- 50:56Speaker 1: a consequence of their misery, and who strive to destroy
- 51:01Speaker 1: the notion of success itself. It enables that spirit to
- 51:10Speaker 1: take possession of people while they simultaneously make the claim
- 51:14Speaker 1: that everything they do as oppressed victims is moral. That
- 51:22Speaker 1: demolishes the notion of success itself and constitutes one eternal
- 51:28Speaker 1: threat to the integrity of the functional state. And that's
- 51:32Speaker 1: what's happening now too. Moses is replaced. Moses and Aaron
- 51:41Speaker 1: are replaced by Caleb and Joshua. And Caleb means loyal
- 51:47Speaker 1: follower and dog. And Joshua is the same name as Jesus.
- 51:52Speaker 1: And Joshua means acting in the salvific spirit of God.
- 52:01Speaker 1: The Old Testament stories are attempting at this point to
- 52:05Speaker 1: formulate a conceptualization of the leader whose nature surpasses even Moses.
- 52:12Speaker 1: And the initial foray into that conceptualization is the hypothesis
- 52:18Speaker 1: that the joint combination of Joshua and Caleb is the
- 52:23Speaker 1: appropriate replacement for Moses and Aaron. Now Joshua and Caleb
- 52:27Speaker 1: were given a task as scouts by Moses when he
- 52:32Speaker 1: was on the Brink of the promised land. He sent
- 52:36Speaker 1: scouts out into Canaan. Which is the promised land. Already inhabited.
- 52:41Speaker 1: To scope out the territory. And to report. And the
- 52:45Speaker 1: scouts come back. And they divide themselves into two camps.
- 52:50Speaker 1: One camp. Is allied with Joshua and Caleb. And the
- 52:53Speaker 1: other camp is allied with the faithless scouts. And the
- 52:56Speaker 1: faithless scouts report of the future. That it's a land
- 53:00Speaker 1: inhabited by giants who cannot be defeated. And that the
- 53:04Speaker 1: best pathway forward for the Israelites is to turn back
- 53:07Speaker 1: in terror and flee. And that's what you're being told
- 53:11Speaker 1: about your future. Right.
- 53:14Speaker 3: And.
- 53:15Speaker 1: And there's no doubt, there's no doubt that the state
- 53:19Speaker 1: of your future is already inhabited by the... by the
- 53:23Speaker 1: pathologized descendants of Canaan, because that's always the case. But
- 53:28Speaker 1: the insistence in the Old Testament stories is that you
- 53:33Speaker 1: are required to maintain faith in the ability of the
- 53:37Speaker 1: human spirit to prevail, even in the face of the
- 53:40Speaker 1: worst possible obstacles, if it is guided by the spirit
- 53:46Speaker 1: that's capable of standing up against tyranny and freeing the slaves.
- 53:49Speaker 1: And that's what Joshua and Caleb report. And so they
- 53:54Speaker 1: observe the future and they tell the Israelites that with
- 53:58Speaker 1: faith and goodwill, with the proper sacrifices and upward aim,
- 54:03Speaker 1: that the chosen people of God can move into the
- 54:06Speaker 1: future with courage and faith and make of it the
- 54:10Speaker 1: place of glory. The land of milk and honey and
- 54:13Speaker 1: the place of life more abundant. And that's how we're
- 54:16Speaker 1: called upon to conceptualize the future as a function of
- 54:21Speaker 1: our courageous faith. Right, and that's what Joshua and Caleb do.
- 54:26Speaker 1: And they're allowed to cross the river Jordan and to
- 54:30Speaker 1: lead the Israelites into the promised land. And that's a
- 54:33Speaker 1: description of the... Attitude that's the opposite of cynicism but
- 54:39Speaker 1: is not naivety that you're called upon to make manifest
- 54:43Speaker 1: in relationship to the future. And as you can tell,
- 54:47Speaker 1: the faithless scouts who tell the Israelites to free in
- 54:51Speaker 1: terror fail to enter the promised land and invite them
- 54:55Speaker 1: to return to tyranny, which is exactly the offer that's
- 54:59Speaker 1: on the table to you at the moment. Right, right.
- 55:03Speaker 1: The future is nothing but climate apocalypse, right? Give us
- 55:07Speaker 1: all the power. Right, that's not how the people of
- 55:11Speaker 1: this generation will enter the promised land. Right. Caleb is
- 55:25Speaker 1: faithful and loyal to God. His name means faithfulness and loyalty.
- 55:30Speaker 1: It also means dog. And the dog that Caleb embodies
- 55:37Speaker 1: is loyalty, faithfulness, and optimistic voyaging forward. And Joshua is
- 55:44Speaker 1: the type of Christ that leads forever towards the heavenly Jerusalem.
- 55:52Speaker 1: That's how the story lays itself out. And then it
- 55:54Speaker 1: does something stunningly remarkable. In its further investigation of. The
- 55:59Speaker 1: characterization of the spirit. That must make itself manifest. For
- 56:04Speaker 1: the promised land. To. To be occupied. The Israelites. Become
- 56:13Speaker 1: even more fractious. And immature and whiny. And contemptible. Than
- 56:18Speaker 1: they ever have been. Right on the very cusp of
- 56:21Speaker 1: their movement. To the place that's been promised to them.
- 56:25Speaker 1: And Israel. God is at his wit's end and decides
- 56:31Speaker 1: in a fit of just retribution to take the annoying, miserable, victim-y, whiny, complain-y, faithless,
- 56:44Speaker 1: immature Israelites who are already having a pretty miserable time
- 56:48Speaker 1: of it in their self-imposed terror and cowardice and he
- 56:56Speaker 1: visits a plague of poisonous snakes upon them. And you
- 57:00Speaker 1: might say, well, why would a good God do that?
- 57:03Speaker 1: And the answer is, there is no situation so dire
- 57:06Speaker 1: that some stupid son of a bitch can't make it worse. Right.
- 57:11Speaker 1: And I mean that. And that's why hell is a
- 57:13Speaker 1: bottomless pit. And even if your material circumstances are dire,
- 57:18Speaker 1: you can be absolutely sure that your reversion to a faithless, hedonistic, power-mad,
- 57:24Speaker 1: Immaturity will do nothing but open up a new pit
- 57:27Speaker 1: of hell. Underneath the hell that you're already occupying. And
- 57:31Speaker 1: that you can continue that. You can continue that in
- 57:35Speaker 1: a manner that literally has no end. Right. Which is
- 57:39Speaker 1: why hell is a bottomless pit. And so. That's what happens.
- 57:45Speaker 1: Is the Israelites fall apart. And more misery makes itself manifest.
- 57:51Speaker 1: And so the snakes bite them. A lot. Which is
- 57:56Speaker 1: exactly what they deserve. And they eventually get to the
- 58:00Speaker 1: point where instead of conducting themselves so that Even more
- 58:04Speaker 1: snakes appear, which is what the Pharaoh did, by the way,
- 58:07Speaker 1: when he was called upon to repent. They decide that
- 58:11Speaker 1: they've had enough yet again. They call themselves to order
- 58:15Speaker 1: and they go to Moses and they say to him,
- 58:18Speaker 1: we know you have a pipeline to the divine. Do
- 58:20Speaker 1: you think you could find it in your heart to
- 58:22Speaker 1: have a chat with God and get him to call
- 58:24Speaker 1: off the snakes? And Moses says, I'll see what I
- 58:29Speaker 1: can do. And so he has a chat with God,
- 58:33Speaker 1: and God says something extraordinarily strange. He says, he doesn't say,
- 58:39Speaker 1: all right, I'm pretty sick of these people, but they
- 58:42Speaker 1: put themselves together yet again, and I kind of like you, so,
- 58:45Speaker 1: you know, I'll call off the snakes, which is the
- 58:47Speaker 1: most straightforward way out of the conundrum, and also something
- 58:51Speaker 1: akin to what's happened previously when God and the Israelites
- 58:55Speaker 1: are having a scrap. But that isn't what happens here.
- 58:58Speaker 1: And it's partly because the story is now setting the
- 59:00Speaker 1: pathway for the adoption of a new mode of being
- 59:04Speaker 1: in the promised land. The mode of being that's characterized
- 59:07Speaker 1: by the emergence of Joshua as the new Lord. God
- 59:11Speaker 1: says to Moses, take your brazen, your bronze items. Take
- 59:16Speaker 1: the bronze items of your people. And cast a staff.
- 59:22Speaker 1: And put a serpent on it. And plant it in
- 59:25Speaker 1: the ground. So that all the Israelites can see it.
- 59:30Speaker 1: So this is a substantial sculpture. So that all the
- 59:36Speaker 1: Israelites can see it. And if they come and gaze
- 59:39Speaker 1: upon it, they will be immune to the poison of
- 59:43Speaker 1: the serpents. Okay, what does that mean? The first thing
- 59:48Speaker 1: it means is the same thing that the symbol of
- 59:51Speaker 1: the physician has meant for 3,000 years. Right? Because the
- 59:56Speaker 1: symbol of the physician is a staff with a serpent
- 59:59Speaker 1: wrapped around it. And that's the Asclepius symbol of healing.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: And it's a representation of the snake and tree motif
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: that's also characteristic of Moses' staff. Because in the story
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: of Moses, when he encounters the magicians of the Egyptian court,
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: Moses throws his staff upon the ground. That's tradition. It
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: transforms itself into chaos. That's the serpent. And Moses is
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: the master of order and chaos. And the Egyptian magicians
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: duplicate the feat, throwing their staffs to the ground, turning
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: them into serpents. And the serpent from Moses' staff eats
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: all the serpents of the Egyptian magicians, which indicates that
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: The real thing is more than the match for the
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: propagandistic magic of the corrupt court. Right. All that's echoed
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: in the image of the serpent on the staff. There's
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: an idea associated with healing that comes from the Greeks.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: Embodied in the word pharmacon, which is the source of
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: the word pharmacy. And pharmacon means poison and cure. And
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: what it means is a little bit of what poisons you,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: cures you. And what that means is that you'll grow
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: and develop in proportion to your ability to face the
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: things that terrify you. Right, and that's what Moses calls
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: upon his people to do. Inspired by the word of God.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: Not to become. The inhabitants of a. Of a landscape
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: devoid of threat. And safe like infants are safe in
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: the home. But to become masters of even what's poisonous.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: So that they can be immune to the worst things
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: that can possibly be thrown at them. Which is what
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: you do when you encourage your children to develop like
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: they should develop. Right? Competence, not safety. That's what encouragement means.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: And that's... What happens symbolically when God calls upon the
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: Israelites to face what terrifies them so they can become
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: immune to the poison even of their own sins. Right.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: All right. We'll cap that off. That's a development of
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: the theme of Joshua who bears the same name as Christ.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: Now thousands of years later, Christ himself says something exceptionally
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: mysterious and virtually incomprehensible that relates back to the brazen serpent,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: to the idea of the pharmacon, to the notion that
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: a little bit of poison redeems you if it's administered voluntarily.
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: He says, unless I be lifted up, Unless I be
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: lifted up like the serpent in the desert, no man
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: can be redeemed. Now that's an unbelievably strange thing for
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: anyone to say. First of all, the notion that Christ
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: would associate himself with a crucified serpent is strange enough
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: in itself, but the allusion itself is very difficult to comprehend.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: Unless you understand it. In which case it becomes. Deep.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: Beyond comprehension. In a manner that's. As close to miraculous.
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: As anything I've ever seen in print. What does it mean?
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: One of the oldest stories we have. Is the story
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: of the encounter. With the dragon. Mesopotamian creation myth. Talks
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: about creation. As the encounter with. The serpent of chaos.
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: The story of St. George is the story of the
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: man who confronts the dragon that threatens the state and
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: frees the treasure that the dragon guards. What's the theme?
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: Confront what is terrifying and find what is redeeming. That's
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: the story of human development. That's the story of the
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: movement up Jacob's ladder. That's the story of the ascent
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: to the city on the hill. That's the story of
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: taking your life out from under the bushel that hides
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: it and revealing it to the world. That's the story
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: of courage and adventure and truth. It's the redemptive story.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: Why does Christ assimilate himself to the serpent? The Israelites
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: are called upon to look forthrightly and voluntarily at that
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: which poisons them. Christ's life is a Hydra of serpents.
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: Why?
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: Because it's an archetypal tragedy. What does that mean? It's
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: a distillation of catastrophe itself. Imagine that you had a
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: hundred people tell you the worst thing that had ever
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: happened to them in their life. And then you gathered
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: all those terrible things, which is what occurs, for example,
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: in the story of Job. You gathered all those terrible
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: things and you visited that fate on one person. That
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: would be the archetypal tragedy. What's the archetypal tragedy? What's
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: a tragedy? A terrible thing befalls someone. What if he's
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: a criminal? Well, then it's not so tragic. Maybe then
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: it's justice. A terrible thing befalls someone innocent. The worst
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: set of possible things befalls the person who is innocent.
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: Most innocent. The archetypal tragedy. What's the worst thing? Death. No.
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: Pain and death. No. Prolonged pain and death. At the
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: hands of a tyrant. No. Prolonged pain and death. Young.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: At the hands of a tyrant. Delivered by the mob.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Betrayed by your friends. In the presence of your mother.
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: Accompanied by the betrayal of your acolytes. Well occupied by
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: an imperial force. Despite doing nothing but working for the good.
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: And simultaneously be known for doing so. Even by those
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: that persecute you. Right. Face that. The transformation of the
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: story of the brazen serpent into the meta-tragedy of Christianity
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: is the insistence that redemption is to be found by
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: confronting the sum total of all that's terrifying. The story
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: of Christ is a meta-tragedy, and it doesn't end with death,
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: because painful and undeserved death at the hands of a
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: treacherous mob is not the worst thing that can happen
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: to you. The worst thing that can happen to you
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: is that, plus a full-fledged encounter with the forces of
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: malevolence itself. That happens to Christ when he encounters Satan
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: in the desert, after the Holy Spirit descends upon him.
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: And it happens when he harrows hell after his death.
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: And so the calling of Christianity, which is the crucifix
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: at the center of the community, is the calling to
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: the followers of the divine to confront not only everything
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: that terrifies them about life, but death. The deepest and
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: most abysmal spirit of evil itself. In the belief that
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: that courageous confrontation will invigorate and defend and make the
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: forthright and courageous and open-eyed disciple immune from the poison
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: of the serpent. Right. And that's the story and the
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: principle upon which the free states of the West are predicated.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: And that's the story of the last third of Exodus.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you everyone. All right, my dear.
- 1:09:30Speaker 5: Hello there.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: That was awesome. Oh, thank you, dear. That was awesome. Yeah,
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, have a nice story. Yes, well, thank
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: you all for listening to that. I'm sorry to inflict
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: it on you.
- 1:10:09Speaker 4: It's a crazy story, eh?
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: I think the reason that the meaning of those stories
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: is so stark and clear now is because the patterns
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: that the biblical stories refer to have always been present.
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: They're the patterns of life. But things are happening so
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: fast now that you can see it unfolding. All right,
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: as the rate of transformation in our culture accelerates, the
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: patterns are dancing. Patterns that might have taken centuries to
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: move are now dancing within weeks. And you can see
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: the realm of the spirits reemerge. That's really the case,
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: and it's a terrifying thing. So hang on to your hats, people,
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: and get your houses in order, right now.
- 1:11:24Speaker 6: Question number one.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: Dr.
- 1:11:26Speaker 6: Peterson, in what way does love expand consciousness?
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: Well, you become what you aim at. So that's why
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: you're called upon in the foundational stories of the West
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: to turn your attention, to turn your eyes upward to
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: the highest that you can imagine. Because in the effort
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: to align yourself with that highest goal, you'll transform yourself
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: into the carrier of that spirit. And you'll become your
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: deepest self. The promise in Genesis 1 is that human
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: beings are made in the image of God, but we
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: obscure that reflection with our presumption and pride. The great
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: commandment that underlies the Ten Commandments is that you are
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: to love the God that is one with all your
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: heart and all your soul, and to conceptualize and attend
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: to and act in relationship to others as if they
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: were you. A vertical orientation and a horizontal orientation. That's
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: the spirit of love. And love is the desire that
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: all things flourish. And so you want to allow the
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: spirit that Has that aim to possess you. And that's
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: the goal of religious practice. Is to invite that spirit
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: to possess you. Now what does that mean? Well imagine
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: that you decided. To. Practice. Devoutly. The love that. That
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: led you to your marriage. We know that people are.
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: Enticed into. Partnerships. as a consequence of love. We know
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: that the foundation of our relationship with our children and
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: our parents is love. We know that in the first
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: throes of a romantic relationship, that love is offered as
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: a gift. But you might imagine that it's incumbent upon
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: you to make the fostering and nurturance of that love
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: a religious duty. And that if you practice that, it
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: would Your ability to inhabit that realm would expand. Now,
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: what would that mean? It would mean that you would
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: remember when you were interacting with your wife or your
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: children or your parents. That you would remember that you
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: loved them. And you would remember what that implied. And
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: what it would imply is that you would interact with
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: them in a manner that would be best for them.
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: Insofar as you were capable of that. Insofar as that
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: was commensurate with your understanding. But that that would be
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: your aim. And if that was your aim. You would
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: see the world in accordance with that aim. And your
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: deviation from that aim. Would. Make its appearance to you
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: as error. As error that you could correct. Or as.
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: Desired response from the target of your love. And you
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: could learn from. That error... Perceived in relationship to your aim...
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: How to... Rectify your... Attention and action... So that... The
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: spirit of love was... Ever more present... And that would
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: be a consequence of you... Gathering information... That is offered
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: to you... In consequence of your aim... But that's not all...
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: You become what you practice... Imagine that a challenge emerges,
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: and that there's two ways you can respond to it.
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: One is resentfully and with the mien of a victim,
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: as if the challenge has been arbitrarily imposed on you
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: by an unjust tyrant. Alternatively, you could face that challenge
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: with faith and hope, like Caleb and Joshua, and you
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: could construe it as the dragon that guards it as
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: of yet unrevealed treasure. And you could embody the spirit
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: of St. George and move forward in strength to grapple
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: with the challenge. What happens if you do that? Everything changes.
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: Psychophysiological analysis of stress response indicates that the difference in
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: those two patterns of response... is so profound that it
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: makes itself manifest in neurological activity, psychophysiological patterning, muscular movement,
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: blood flow, hormonal preparation, and cellular transformation all the way
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: down to the genetic levels. When you approach a new
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: situation in a given spirit, the spirit in which you
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: approach the situation manifests itself as a physiological pattern, and
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: that transforms the way genes themselves code for proteins. If
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: you practice love, you change yourself physiologically all the way
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: down to the molecular level, and you Free. You release
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: from the domain of implicit physiological potential the you that
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: would be what it could be if it was the
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: purest possible manifestation of love. Right. That's possible. And you
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: know that. You see the people around you. And you
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: die for this. You see the people around you clearly
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: at their best. Clearly at their best. When they're motivated
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: by love. And if you're spiteful and resentful and bitter
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: and miserable, and you're shaking your fist at God, the
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: sight of that love might burn you to the core
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: and further embitter you. But you know in your deepest
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: heart of hearts that if you could live anywhere, that's
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: where you would live.
- 1:18:35Speaker 4: And so.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: The religious call is a call to live like that.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: And it isn't a call to believe in that. It's
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: a call to do that. Because that's the deepest form
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: of belief. And to practice it. What's the purpose? What's
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: the purpose of prayer? God grant me the wisdom to
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: have the humility to transform myself into the man who
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: could properly love his wife and children. That's a prayer
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: that will be answered.
- 1:19:18Speaker 6: How does one find a connection to God without following
- 1:19:22Speaker 6: an organized religion? I desire relationship to God, but I
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: am unconvinced by organized religions.
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: Well, I'll say something rude to begin with. If you're
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: capable of finding the path to God by yourself, why
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: don't you go to church and help the lost church?
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: I mean, because that's the claim you're making. You're saying
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: you are sufficient unto yourself to find the divine pathway forward.
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: If that's true, then why not revitalize the institutions while
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: you're at it? And if you can't do that, then
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: maybe your first presumption was wrong. And maybe you should
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: go to.
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: Maybe you could go to the church that's composed of
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: people no worse than you, and you could participate with
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: them in aiming up, and you could rectify the errors
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: of the community and your own errors in relationship to
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: what's highest simultaneously.
- 1:20:34Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: I would also say that the end point of the
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: presumption that you alone can find the divine path is
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: no difference from the insistence of the postmodernists that what
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: they feel is the final definition of reality. Those are
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: the same thing. Right. I don't want to get too
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: high and mighty about that. Because it's certainly the same
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: thing I thought when I left the church when I
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: was a teenager. And it's the same thing that so
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: many people who've left the organized stream of religion think.
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: It's understandable. And it's built into our rebellious, Enlightenment, demented, Protestant,
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: Luciferian culture. And so, the fact, and I'm not singling
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: out the Protestants. It's a deviant stream of heretical Protestantism.
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: That's a way of thinking about it. Right? The notion
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: that we can define ourselves. We have to step forward communally. So,
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: it's incumbent upon you to participate in the process of
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: communal organization. Because that's part of the manner in which
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: you approach the divine. It's not a solitary pursuit. You can't...
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: Buddha knew that. Buddha was offered the opportunity to enter
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: the realm of the gods and to remain in Nirvana.
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: And he abandoned that offer, which was genuine and hard-earned,
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: because he determined that he would not step into paradise
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: unless he could take everyone with him. Right? And maybe
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: that's because there is no paradise for you alone. Right?
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: How could that be paradise?
- 1:22:39Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: An eternity of you alone? That sounds a lot like hell.
- 1:22:55Speaker 6: What has been your biggest hurdle in bridging the theology-science-cultural gap?
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: Pride and lies. The pride in relationship to the first question,
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: let's say, because I thought, when I was 13, and
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: perplexed about the apparent paradoxical relationship between evolutionary theories and
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: biblical accounts of creation, that I knew enough to dispense
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: with the entire religious tradition of the Western world. Well,
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: what's that? Pride, obviously. What kind of pride? The pride
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: of the Luciferian intellect. Like 100% that. And I escaped
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: from that to the degree that I have escaped because
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: I came to understand first that I knew nothing. And second,
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: that I truly knew nothing about evil itself. Even though
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: I became unshakably convinced of its existence. And it was
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: my investigation into the structure of hell that eradicated my
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: Luciferian pride. I came to understand when I was about
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: 20 that virtually everything I said was a performance and
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: a lie. 95% of it. And I understood that as
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: a consequence of my developing understanding of the misapprehensions that
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: led to the development of totalitarian states. I was very
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: curious about The relationship between individual misconduct. Of the sort
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: that enabled people to remain silent. When atrocities were being committed.
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: Of the sort that allowed people to luxuriate. In the
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: opportunity to exact their sadistic revenge. And my own. Pride
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: and presumption. And I. Aimed at. Eradicating that.
- 1:25:34Speaker 3: And.
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: The consequence of that was the dawning of my understanding
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: that I was an actor and a fraud. That I
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: said most of what I said to win arguments, to
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: instrumentally manipulate, to be the smartest person in the room,
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: to ensure that my intellect was celebrated, and to delight
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: in the victory I obtained over others. And I learned
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: that speaking words oriented by that aim made me weak, contemptible, desperate,
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: and dangerous. And that on those few occasions when I
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: strived instead to say instead only what I believed to
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: be true, that the ground under my feet came back together,
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: and that I was... thereby climbing uphill. And I learned
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: to watch my words and burn off 95% of what
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: was encumbering me.
- 1:26:52Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: So that was the obstacle, you might say. Yeah. What
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: was the obstacle? 95% of who I was. That was
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: the obstacle. Look. Look. When God throws Adam and Eve
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: out of paradise for the sin of pride and presumption,
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: he bars the gates with a sword that is on fire,
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: that turns every which way. A sword that turns every
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: which way is one that you cannot avoid. It burns
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: and it cuts. And what does it burn away and cut?
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: Everything that isn't fit to be in paradise. It's highly
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: probable that that's a lot of you. And so, you
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: might say that a vision of God is equivalent to
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: a trial by fire. The trial by fire of hell
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: in direct proportion to the magnitude of your sins. Yeah, well,
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: there's an impediment for you. When Abraham proceeds on his
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: voyage uphill, animated by the spirit of adventure, he's called
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: upon to make sacrifices in sequence, commensurate with the expanding
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: field of opportunity that reveals itself in front of him,
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: until he transforms himself so completely by his willingness to
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: undertake even the ultimate sacrifice, that he's awarded a new name.
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: That's equivalent to a death in rebirth and to movement
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: toward the establishment of an earthly paradise but it requires
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: a a secession of sacrifice that culminates in the sacrifice
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: of everything And the transformation of identity that's so complete
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: that it's as if you become born anew. Which is
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: what happens to Abraham. And Jacob. Right? And Christ when baptized. Yeah.
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: And all those who are visited and then abide by
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: the call of the Holy Spirit. Terrible.
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: That's the terrible swift sword. Yeah. That's why when Christ
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: comes back at the end of time or... why the
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: spirit that makes itself manifest when the end times reveal themselves,
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: Christ comes back with a sword in his mouth and
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: he separates the sheep from the goats. And there's a
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: lot more goats than sheep. And that's a psychological warning
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: and a sociological warning. And it's a terrifying vision into
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: the understructure of reality itself. Cain is doomed because he
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: doesn't offer his best. That means that insofar as you
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: haven't offered your best, all that is within you that
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: has not been the offering of the best is doomed.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: That's a terrible thing to know. But it's the sort
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: of thing that can scare you straight. And it's wisdom
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: that says the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: So aim up because there's no better place to aim.
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: But it's also aim up or else. Right. Really. And
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: on those happy notes... Thank you very much, everybody.