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TMCP Ep 25: Terence Crawford Puts On An Absolute Masterclass · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner, U standing at six foot five, weight
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  Speaker 1: class unknowns, but hailing from the city of sand Put
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  Speaker 1: your hands together for Jamison Welch. And in this corner,
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  Speaker 1: standing at five foot ten, weighing in at pound and
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  Speaker 1: coming to us from his super secret bunker with no
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  Speaker 1: AC in Tucson, Arizona. Put your hands together for Luis Montemao.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to a special edition of the Mixed Company Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, my name is Jamison, and I'm joined by
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  Speaker 2: Luis as always, and Luis, I talk about, Man, we
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  Speaker 2: finally got the.
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  Speaker 3: Fight we talked about over a year ago. What are
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts? What happened, What's going on? How was the night?
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  Speaker 3: All the above?
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  Speaker 4: Man, I got so much to say, but you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I gotta start here.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, I'm gonna allow you for a minute to sit
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  Speaker 5: back and give me my flowers.
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  Speaker 4: Compliment me.
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  Speaker 5: Because most of boxing media said Canelo was gonna take
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  Speaker 5: the fight, Cadel's getta win by a decision. I was
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  Speaker 5: the man who said Bud Crufford could pull it off.
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  Speaker 5: I said he was going to be underestimated. I said,
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  Speaker 5: do not better, do not count out Bud Crufford. And
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  Speaker 5: on Saturday Night, we saw Terrence Bud Crufford win by
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  Speaker 5: unanimous decision against Canela Ovaris in this mega fight, So, uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, go ahead, let me know, Come tell me
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  Speaker 5: I was right. Tell me I was right.
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  Speaker 2: Draw a lot of very good points over the year,
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  Speaker 2: just in terms of just even hypothetical of the matchup.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned things about canel Will being more of a
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  Speaker 2: short guy that's stocky instead of being a taller guy
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  Speaker 2: ass lean, and as the fight went on, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: he's got a point because there wasn't a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: of movement the hands be kind of wasn't there like
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  Speaker 2: a big slowgany in the ring compared to a Crawf
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  Speaker 2: who felt, you know, he was older. He felt like
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  Speaker 2: a fresher, more athletic, have more pop in his punches
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  Speaker 2: and his step.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, damn, Luis did say this. From the
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  Speaker 3: last year.
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  Speaker 2: He's been saying like, hey, canell is still elite, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not the same canot we remember from five years ago,
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  Speaker 2: or is not that particular guy. And I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: why that's it all came around like around seven six
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  Speaker 2: or seven, I'm like, Okay, that's what we's been talking about.
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  Speaker 2: But until you fight and lead fighter, you kind of
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  Speaker 2: don't see it because you can get by when you're
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  Speaker 2: fighting lesser guys. You can get by on a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things. But once to the ring with another elaitue guy,
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  Speaker 2: all your flaws get exposed.
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  Speaker 3: And it sure came to like Saturday night.
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  Speaker 4: Sure the thing that blew me away right.
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  Speaker 5: When it started is but actually looked huge, Like I
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  Speaker 5: he looked so much bigger, be feared than Canela. And
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  Speaker 5: I think Canel of course looked you know, of course
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  Speaker 5: muscular and good shit, but leaner then maybe in the
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  Speaker 5: last like let's say, last last year's fights, So maybe
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  Speaker 5: he was trying to do the same thing as you know,
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  Speaker 5: get that I talked about, get leaner, maybe move a
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  Speaker 5: little faster on his feet. But yeah, Bud was looking
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  Speaker 5: like he looked like Baine in that cut tam ring.
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  Speaker 2: He was very comfortable with the way he was walking
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  Speaker 2: around with that's the thing, and didn't he didn't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: need power, but he was able to dictate the fight
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  Speaker 2: a lot of ways. Being able to frustrate and at
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  Speaker 2: the opponent like Canelo was probably the most impressive thing
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  Speaker 2: for me, where Canelo just couldn't solve the puzzle.
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  Speaker 3: He just couldn't solve them.
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  Speaker 2: He couldn't didn't know when to attack, didn't know when
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  Speaker 2: to do, you know, didn't we know how to defend.
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  Speaker 2: This is always a step or too late to the punch.
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  Speaker 2: And that was ultimately the fight. Even though I thought
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna be a closer fight. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a closer fight than everybody else had it. I know,
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  Speaker 2: you on Twitter and Blue Sky and Igen, if you're
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  Speaker 2: at a bar, people think the fights went one way
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  Speaker 2: or another. I thought the fight was five to five
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  Speaker 2: going I knew well. I thought the judges would have
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  Speaker 2: the fight at five to five after ten rounds, because
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  Speaker 2: that's just how judges are because everybody sees the fight differently,
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  Speaker 2: which you may see in a round I might see different.
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  Speaker 3: So in the first three to four rounds, if it's
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  Speaker 3: two two, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not too far gone in my eyes, even though I
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  Speaker 2: may have a three to one, you may have a
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  Speaker 2: three one, or somebody may have a four to zero.
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  Speaker 2: But every judge's difference. So I knew it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be a closer fight than we all. You know,
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  Speaker 2: then people were thinking. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: but even though one fifteen one thirteenth kind of wild.
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  Speaker 3: But did do enough to take care of business. It
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  Speaker 3: was very impressive.
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  Speaker 5: I really I did stick with the idea that But's
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  Speaker 5: gonna win by either splitter majority of decision because of
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  Speaker 5: what you said. What our amazing guest sportscaster Al Bernenstein
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  Speaker 5: said in our previous episode, go back and listen to that.
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  Speaker 5: Just because we talked about Canelo Crawford doesn't mean we
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  Speaker 5: talked a lot about the state of Bosting today. Still relevant,
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  Speaker 5: definitely check out that episode. But he made the point,
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  Speaker 5: as did you, that Canelo gets the benefit of the
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  Speaker 5: doubt on the cards, especially in Vegas. So I honestly
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  Speaker 5: was surprised that it went full unanimous decision even after
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  Speaker 5: the performance. You know, we talked on the group chat
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  Speaker 5: a bit about how you expected a wild card, like
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  Speaker 5: a ridiculous card.
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  Speaker 2: I told you, I'll like, hey, don't be surprised. I
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  Speaker 2: heard one fifteen one thirteen all prepared. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they're about to do this, and I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean that's what it felt like when
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  Speaker 2: they when I heard one, because it was one sixteen
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  Speaker 2: one twelve, Like all right, that's yeah, that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: what we see. Well, thirteen goes either way, Like when
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  Speaker 2: that score gets tossed, that literally goes in aleven. Oh no,
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  Speaker 2: but they got it right. But yeah, I expected that
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  Speaker 2: I thought it would go. It was gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: On the carg We're gonna be very close, and not.
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  Speaker 2: Because Canelill fought the great fight, but when you have
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  Speaker 2: that kind of pedigree and you're that kind of guy,
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  Speaker 2: you get the benefit of the doubt, especially early on
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  Speaker 2: in the fight. The judges is going to give you
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  Speaker 2: in a in a not so busy round, the judge's
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  Speaker 2: gonna give the benefit of the doubt to the guy
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  Speaker 2: that is basically favored in the fight. That's just how
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  Speaker 2: it always goes. Whether it's right or wrong, we can
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  Speaker 2: debate that for a long time, but we've seen some
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  Speaker 2: of these fights now where the guy that's favored for
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  Speaker 2: whatever reason gets the benefit of the.
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  Speaker 3: Doubt in those rounds that there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 3: activity in.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I uh, did you think it was a
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  Speaker 5: good fight? Did you like the outcome of the the
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  Speaker 5: quality of the fight.
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  Speaker 2: It had the perfect mixture of boxing and also action.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a strictly twelve round boxing match where you had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not necessarily born, but it wasn't slow on action.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't have boxers jab jab, defend, defend for twelve.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't have that.
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  Speaker 2: You had power punches, you had flurried, you had guys
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  Speaker 2: making adjustments. It was a perfect mixture. If that was
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  Speaker 2: my first boxing match, I would have loved it, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. If that was my I always
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  Speaker 2: kind of quit it to that this is the first
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  Speaker 2: time I've ever watched boxing.
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  Speaker 3: He threw me into that fight. I'm like, Oh, when's
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  Speaker 3: the next one? You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It had the perfect mix of everything. So if I'm
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  Speaker 2: explaining someone new, I'm like, hey, this is boxing, and
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  Speaker 2: you see with Terrence Crawford is in this dance today
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  Speaker 2: able to do this, this, and that he's able to
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  Speaker 2: defend while also attacking. This is why, and saying with Canelo,
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  Speaker 2: even though as the fight went on it was a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot more strategy, it was more trying to land
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  Speaker 2: power punches. So being able to explain that while also
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  Speaker 2: having a fight that's entertaining to hit all the numbers
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  Speaker 2: to me, hit all the metrics to.
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  Speaker 5: Me, same same, Here's something that I never thought that
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to articulate before the fight. And
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  Speaker 5: what really really stuck with me about buds Chances is
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  Speaker 5: his ability to adapt, which I didn't realize what I
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  Speaker 5: didn't realize what I was thinking until I saw him
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  Speaker 5: a few runs in. He moved like a guy that
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  Speaker 5: belonged to that weight class.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he looked real comfortable. He looked very comfortable.
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  Speaker 5: The standard sort of take on this was while he's
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  Speaker 5: going to get a lot bigger, he's going to be slower.
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  Speaker 5: But it's not a matter of like speed or no speed.
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  Speaker 5: It's a matter of can you adapt to walking around
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  Speaker 5: of that weight like you said, And he looked like
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  Speaker 5: a guy that He looked like a guy that you know,
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  Speaker 5: could have been that same weight class for years now.
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  Speaker 5: He looked like a formidable opponent for Canelo specifically, And
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  Speaker 5: I think that's kind of really what what had me
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  Speaker 5: thinking that I was going to go for a bud wind.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I would go back and forth, of course,
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  Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, I think that's
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  Speaker 5: what clicks did. And just you just saw him, like
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  Speaker 5: he said, maybe by a round three years or so.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, Tim, he looks good. At that weight class.
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  Speaker 5: He looks in control of his feet. You know, he
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  Speaker 5: came out, he came out south ball, which Canelo had
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  Speaker 5: trouble with Billy Joe Saunders at the beginning before he
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  Speaker 5: timed him out.
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  Speaker 4: So smart fighter. Uh used a lot of high IQ.
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  Speaker 5: He wasn't slow, but he wasn't the you know, the
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  Speaker 5: and that's something that you specifically said it wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 5: be Bud Crawford versus.
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  Speaker 3: Errol Spence and yeah, no no no no no no
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  Speaker 3: no no no.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't gonna happen. Hey, and also kudos AND's chin.
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  Speaker 2: Canelo has probably the best I've seen in this relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's taking some shots and I thought back
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  Speaker 2: later that evening that trilogy verse triple G even though
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  Speaker 2: he you know, there was a draw and he won
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  Speaker 2: close fights. That wears down a fighter. Those wear on you.
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  Speaker 2: When you have those kind of fights with that kind
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  Speaker 2: of guy, it where on you. Crawford didn't have those
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  Speaker 2: kind of wars with guys like that. He doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: thirty six rounds like that, you know, and they're not
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  Speaker 2: just spreaditing. I'm just saying just overall, when you have
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  Speaker 2: those kind of fights those age you a lot quickly.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen other guys have trilogies and even for a
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  Speaker 2: part series, and you can see how those things wear
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  Speaker 2: down a guy. And it felt like as great as
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  Speaker 2: Canelo was and it still is, you just feel that
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  Speaker 2: he's wasn't the same guy. I think it's a culmination
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  Speaker 2: of everything. I think it's a culmination of all. He's
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  Speaker 2: been a very active fighter, He's fought some really tough fights,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just one of those things where sometimes you're
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  Speaker 2: just not the best guy that night.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with it at all.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think the styles of the two boxers
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  Speaker 2: is not a good match for him looking back at it,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a culmination of everything.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he took a lot of bombs and he handled
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  Speaker 5: himself well. But I did say another thing I said
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  Speaker 5: is that I don't think budd was going to be
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  Speaker 5: able to break her or knock down Canelo. But those
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  Speaker 5: power punchers were gonna land and they're gonna look good
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  Speaker 5: to the judges, and they look good, and you go
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  Speaker 5: back and look at Instagram highlights some of those stills.
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  Speaker 5: There was one kind of really funny one where it
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  Speaker 5: was a shout of Canelo getting a punch landing on
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  Speaker 5: Canelo and then one of him looking side eyed it.
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  Speaker 5: But and the caption was just like Canelos wondering what
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  Speaker 5: his life is right now at this moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I believe that.
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  Speaker 4: I really believe that.
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  Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, is one of those
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  Speaker 2: things to where once you can land those kind of shots,
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  Speaker 2: you're confidence the sky high. Especially when the other guy's
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  Speaker 2: not able to land. It was like, oh, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: controlled the fight, and it really not much canolicially do
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  Speaker 2: because the kind of the kind of shot.
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  Speaker 3: Canal they need to land, he couldn't land versus. But
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, the home runs when
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  Speaker 2: he needed he wasn't gonna catch.
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  Speaker 3: But with that, it just wasn't gonna happen that night.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can tell frustrated. Halfway through the fight.
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  Speaker 4: He was fighting frustratedly.
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  Speaker 5: You saw it against Devol, Yeah, and you even saw
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  Speaker 5: it against Berlega a bit.
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  Speaker 4: I think I was a fantastic opponent, but you know
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  Speaker 4: he is.
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  Speaker 5: He's just a beefy dude again who who is able
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  Speaker 5: to handle those shots really well. And William Skull just
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  Speaker 5: because he was mostly because he was dancing around like
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  Speaker 5: now you see the pattern of frustrated Canelo tried his
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  Speaker 5: best and just not not getting where it needs to be.
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  Speaker 5: And once I saw that, I was like, it's clip,
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  Speaker 5: that's it. We're oh, you're gonna get a butter win.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And the also like we look at the fight.
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  Speaker 2: Once a guy is not able to go to plan
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  Speaker 2: B and there's no plan SE, he's like, oh, this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of over. Like I mean, even though it
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  Speaker 2: was close early, the back half of the fight was
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was what it was. Now, let me
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  Speaker 2: ask you, since we saw what we saw and we
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  Speaker 2: know boxing the way we do, do we need a rematch?
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  Speaker 5: I would I want to rematch? Of course I would
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  Speaker 5: want to rematch. You know, the energy of that night
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  Speaker 5: was so awesome. It was so the anticipation was amazing.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want it to be like Chasing the Dragon,
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  Speaker 5: where I want that same feeling again. It's never gonna
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  Speaker 5: be the same, but we could recapture a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I would love a rematch. My heart was pounding. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not a kid.
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  Speaker 4: Like when when the ringboks happened, like for most of
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  Speaker 4: the fight.
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  Speaker 6: It was just boom boom boom, boom boom, because I
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  Speaker 6: was so so excited for the fight itself, the anticipation
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  Speaker 6: I was talking about it for a year or so,
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  Speaker 6: that everything just whether it was going to happen or not,
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  Speaker 6: like it was real.
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  Speaker 4: It was finally real and I was there in front.
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  Speaker 5: Of the TV, and yeah, man, I that this fight
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  Speaker 5: really really reminded me of why I love boxing so much.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't need a mega fight like that every single weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I just like wat nice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But if the unexpected this of the of the Bud
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  Speaker 5: win for most people, not for me, but for most people,
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  Speaker 5: you know, uh, I'm sure that you know, there would
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  Speaker 5: still be excitement for a rematch.
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  Speaker 4: So do we need it? I don't know. Do I
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  Speaker 4: want it? Absolutely? I absolutely want What about you? How
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  Speaker 4: do you feel about it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it necessarily? We did one?
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  Speaker 4: Cool?
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  Speaker 2: But here my thing is, Budd says after the fight
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  Speaker 2: he wants to be at one sixty.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's a whole different can of worms. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What Bud's goals are, So I don't know if Bud
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  Speaker 2: wants to make most money going forward or he wants
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  Speaker 2: to take on the next best challenger going forward. Those
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  Speaker 2: are the questions we have no idea, So it's honestly,
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  Speaker 2: it's tough talking about who who would he fight? Who
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  Speaker 2: can he fight? And we don't know those things. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of tough about, oh, you fight bev All or
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  Speaker 2: it's just not. It's really difficult, however, knowing. But the
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  Speaker 2: way we know Bud, this was like the first kind
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  Speaker 2: of cash grap well, the second kind of cash grab
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  Speaker 2: fight he's fought.
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  Speaker 3: He's more of it.
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  Speaker 2: Say hey, whoever the biggest comp is, let's run it
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  Speaker 2: and whatever. So I can see him fighting someone that's
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  Speaker 2: not going to bring him the biggest amount of money
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  Speaker 2: just to do what he does. But I think he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be smart about it. I think we're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: see him for rest of this year. Obviously, you're probably
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  Speaker 2: looking at the back half of next year. If I
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  Speaker 2: had to guess, he's an older guy, so I think
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  Speaker 2: he probably takes the rest of this year off, and
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  Speaker 2: then going forward we probably get announcement in the late
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  Speaker 2: winter or early spring about his next plans.
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  Speaker 3: Agreed.
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  Speaker 5: I guess we don't know what his plans are, but
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  Speaker 5: we can speculate as much as we want. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the man has all the cachet in the world right now.
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  Speaker 5: You know, whatever he wants to do, people are gonna
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  Speaker 5: follow him. And what we said last episode was people
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  Speaker 5: might know him, but don't put enough respect on his name.
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  Speaker 4: Now they're gonna. Now they're gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yet. See, he's the best of this generation and he's
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  Speaker 2: on the mount rushmore of our lifetimes. He's that good.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's where he's at now. He's that good.
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  Speaker 5: Agreed with that said, though, you know he is and
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  Speaker 5: he's only human, you know he is, and he's you know,
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  Speaker 5: almost forty, and you know he he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 5: go out challenging somebody like a here's the thing, let's
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: let's talk about our our that poor Bestard David Benavitez,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: who he can screaming up over and over again. There's
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: he should not challenge him. He should probably go going
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: down to one sixty is probably the best.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Option for him because we're.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: Gonna run into the canal problem of him fighting big
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: guys are lower their.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Weight, big younger guys too.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: You guys, I have the same amount of reach, like
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I thinks can talk about is Crawford's reach for his
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: size is very impressive. And if you have somebody with
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: the same reach or even a longer reach and that's
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: younger and more athletic, I don't know what that looks like.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I think that present some challenges in the ring that
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: this fight did. Not not saying he wouldn't win, not
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: saying he would lose him, but he was saying it's
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a different type of fight that takes place, so it
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: would be very interesting to see. But yeah, man, yeah
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: bev all. But if he does, I don't know.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But here's the thing. Those are fights
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: we want to see. Why.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: That's the thing we don't want. I don't want to
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: see him fight up to me. Okay, I don't want
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to see him take a stopgap fight. I know you
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: don't either, And we'll watch and we'll be happy he's fighting,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: but we don't want to see you at the point
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: now where he has to fight somewhat of substance.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: He has to. There's no way around it.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Yes, but you also have made the point not but
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: and you have also made the point that you want
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: to be smart about your next fight, especially at a
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: time like this. You know, you're you're you're righty high uh,
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: and do something that is a quality fight, quality competition,
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: but also not something that's gonna get you embarrassed on
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: you know, like TV after your biggest win of your
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: entire career, right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Right, right, So I would run the back of Canelo
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: and get the A side money or get fifty fifty
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: on the money.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Personally, that would be my thing.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: It's a very favorable matchup for him, and there's things
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: he can probably improve upon and the next fight as well,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: So that probably my my.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Thing for him. But again I don't I'm not in
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: his camp. I don't know. Also, I don't know what
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: did to his body. I don't know. We don't know yet.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: We'll find out what.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: We don't know what that the long term ramifications of that,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: If there's any, There might not be any, but we
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: have no clues because he immediately set one sixty after
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: the fight and that was kind of telling, So who knows.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: That's a good, really good point.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm it's never easy to put on that
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: much weight in terms of muscle. It's easy for me
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: to put on that much weight just a long weekend,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: just you know, just keep the tab going and yeah,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: I'll make the I'll bake weight.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Not for the right reasons, but i'll make mind it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: all bad. But yeah, this.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Is one of those things maybe that he's like, I
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: have to do it for this fight to get this
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: w but I can't live like this.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: I can't, you know, continue my career at this weight.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: We don't know.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I think he walks around like at one seventy. Okay,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: so that's the case. Getting the one sixty eight it's easy,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: like that's not a that's not a problem. But again,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: fighting that kind of fight at this age, I don't
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: know how his body responds. That does gon'ta be interesting
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: to see. But he immediately said one sixty. So when
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: you say one sixty, it means you may have somebody
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: in mind. Normally that means you have somebody in mind
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: or you have something in mind. As I'm very curious
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: on the next plans, Like, I'm very, very curious because
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: now he's the go to guy, he's the guy wants
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to see. He's a guy that can sell and arena.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: He can't all he can't fill out the stadium by himself.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: He could definitely still out an NBA arena.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: For sure, one hundred percent.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Let's just strikes a little bit talking less about the
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: actual fighters or plans.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: But I'm curious.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: You had said during our last episode, which we recorded
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: with the legendary sports caster Albertstein, that you didn't really
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: see a lot of hype out in Vegas where you are.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Did that change about the week you recorded early in
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the week. What was the vibe like on your Friday
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: night Saturday were It wasn't the same.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: It was cool, but it wasn't ell reci pece of
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton. It was not that the environment. It wasn't
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that that was one of the craziest weeks I've ever
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: had in the city, that that the people came over
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: upon ten days early and then the drunk the city
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: out of alcohol.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: So it wasn't that kind of weekend. It wasn't. Definitely
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: wasn't Paqi on Mayweather.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: It was not Pati on McGregor, It wasn't pak JM.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: It was because underrated, all right, underrated fan base boxing.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Our Filipino brothers and sisters are very out of the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: boxing fans. They come and support, they support their guy
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and they yeah, it's different, but.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: This was a good weekend.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't like a the city's buzzing, buzzing, everybody's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: talking about it, everybody can't wait it was. It wasn't
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: ho hum, but it it wasn't like other fights in
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the past. Now there could be a lot of reasons
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: for one. Everybody gets to watch on Netflix, so it's
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: not like, Oh, I gotta go to a fight party,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I gotta go to the ballroom watch it. Hell, all
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: of the semos had it on. I think it was
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: one of those things where if you got Netflix, you'll
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: be able to watch it. I think that's a big
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: part of it. But also Terrence Crawford, even though he's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: an amazing boxer, we don't know him outside of boxing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: We don't know his name man outside of boxing. So
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna be like a transcendence start. Like when
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Patyall was fighting, he was more popular damn there outside
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: of the ring than in obviously Floyd And like there's
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: certain guys that had more of a cachet outside of
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: their sport than in.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Terrence Crawford doesn't have that at the moment.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: That might change, it may not, But the casual person
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: is knocking, like, oh, I know who that is? Like
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford will walk down the street and they other
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: person will not know who he is.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: That is a very good point, Yeah, because I was
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: very curious of at that because we're this is a
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: fight in a football stadium, you know, Llegion stadium.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: So I was ordering, like this is such a big
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: deal just in the terms of bodies going to see
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the fight, Like why wasn't it typed up in town?
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: But it makes perfect sense. I mean, yeah, a lot
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: of people have Netflix. A lot of people have Netflix
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: and they don't care about boxing, and they just put
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: it on. I saw Instagram like the day after they're
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: having a watch party at some Mexican restaurant.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I hadn't heard of. It was like just one of
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: those places.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: It's like a food trucks, some tables, like in the
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: middle of the side of the road. That was awesome,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Like I'm glad that they did that, they're having their
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: watch party, but like that would have never happened for
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: at the Zone fight, you know exactly.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: And so that's the difference.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: That's the that's not saying it's a bad thing, because
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's Netflix and watch you know, I think
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: that's a good thing.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: That's something that we you know, we're gonna have more of,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: so that's cool. However, the buzz are that same. I
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: think that several reasons for that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: One it is NFL season as well, footballs and fall,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: but also people's funds are not like they used to be.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: People's Vegas is Vegas is not a cheap place to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: go to anymore. You're gonna be You're gonna pay for everything.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: It's not as easy to get in here price wise
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: it anymore like it used to be.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: So it's a little bit more difficult than it was
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: in the past.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: But with that being said, you got seventy thousand people
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: in a football stadium for a boxing match, and that's
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: very impressive and you're twenty twenty five.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't even imagine the energy being there at
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: that place. And I've said on record before like that
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: doesn't seem like fun to me, is going to see
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: boxing in a at a football stadium, even with concerts
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Like I don't like to go if I can't afford
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: to have a decent seat, if I'm up in the nosebleeds,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I'd rather just I'd rather just just take that money
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: and go to a bar and have a good time, honestly.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: So it's funny you mentioned that I got offered to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: buy a six hundred dollars seat. It was like six
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and change and it was nowhere close to the ring,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Like it was a decent seat, but it was just
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: no work. It wasn't the point where you're watching on
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the screen as out of the fight, and I'm like, nah, man,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I got I have the money, but I'd rather I'd.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Rather just pocket the money and you know, watch it
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: at home. Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I did look at the tickets at lead to State,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: and you know, I don't know why I even did,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: because I know I'm not Allegiance Stadium Canelo fight in Vegas.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Uh, income racket, that's different.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: I know, I don't have kids, so I do all
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: right for myself actually, but yeah, that is just a
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: whole other other level that you know, Yeah, the same
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: thing with you. I could have afforded like the no
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: nosebleediest of nosebleed seats, but yeah, that's that just doesn't
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: sound like like worth worth the effort to me, you know.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: And when you said six hundred bucks, I'm I is
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: that in the parking lot?
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Like you get in set six bugs.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: They were decent seats, but for six hundred bucks, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: couldn't justify. And I mean I have the money, it's
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: just justifying. Spending that much on that at that time
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: did not make sense to me.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I got you know, really at the end of the day,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: you know, I went to see the fight at my
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: go to place, the Neighborhood Bar on twenty nine Street
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: and Tucson best place to watch boxing. Vibe was awesome.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: They had a DJ, you know, spinning in between fights.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: He did the meal thing and every time Canelo was on,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: and it's it's just a really good time. Good food,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: lots of drinks, lots of drinks, lots of lots of
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: drinks and man over there and back. So you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: I was, I was very I was as responsible as
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I could have been on a night like that. But
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: the it was crazy. Actually, I'm surprised. Uh it was
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: surprise of the type. But now I understand. It wasn't
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: as packed as I thought it would have been. There
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: was a good crap.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of people there, but again Netflix, you
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: know people.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, being able to you know what, I'm
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: cool being able to like, so getting dressed up whatever.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: You could just be around the house and chilling and
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: turn on TV, app, commuting, tablet, whatever, and you're gonna go.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: That's never really been my thing.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I've said it before, you know, I want the experience
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: of going somewhere and watching it and you know, the
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: communal vibe. That's the thing I don't really feel with
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: any other sport. I mean, I've been to super Bowl
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: watch parties. It doesn't feel the same. I don't get
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: that excitement, vive energy, you know, anything like that. If
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: I've watched the super Bowl at sports bars, at breweries,
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: et cetera, and it's a good time, I'm not even complaining.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I'm saying it, you know, boring or whatever.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: But it's not the same as a as a killer
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: boxing match, especially being in Tucson with a lot of
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Mexicans out here and the neighborhood specifically being like, you.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Know, how is a mixed company at the at the neighborhood.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Not definitely a lot more Hispanic folks there. I did see,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: but a crab like five or six black guys. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: didn't specifically hear anything racist from the Mexican people being said,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: but do you know what, I'm.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Sure it happened. I'm sure it happened. I'm just gonna
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: be real about that.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: You know, Like I don't I don't fuck with any
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: of that, you know, I yeah, me personally, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I love boxing, and I love I love but Crawford specifically.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: But I also kind of went in there undercover and
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: didn't make it really clear.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: That I was working for but just just in case.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: But but yeah, yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: You know that's something that I just kind of the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: point of this show. Part of one of the points
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: of the show is to kind of bridge that divide
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: between black fighters, brown fighters, and or their fans rather
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: and just you know, man, I don't know. At least
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: we didn't lose to white guy. Neither guy lost to Okay, Well.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: That's the funny part. Like i'ven know how popular boxing was. Well,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I knew how it was. I probably was in Mexico.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't know to what extent. I didn't know that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the fights of Mexico have like cars of like twenty
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: five fights and people stay of a whole car. I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: was not aware up until this far. I listened to podcasts,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: different things, different interviews. I didn't know I know people
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I know Mexican people support they own that's a dope
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: thing to do. But I didn't know boxing was such
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: a a winner for the whole card. A we get
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: dressed what I didn't know it like it was very impressive.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely, that's something I don't know.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: It's it's something I've never not known as a kid,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: and you know, watching clus and just everybody, every every
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Mexican in Houston knew in school the helocunos as to
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: as was, you.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Know, all the kids in elementary school. Even I don't know.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: That's just something that uh was was ingrained this back then,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: which is why I'm also such a Canilo fanboy because
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: he sort of brings that, uh, that energy out from
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: the Mexicans fans as well.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: You know, I haven't really had somebody like that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Uh And curious to see what happens to him going forward.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: So he's got two more fights on the RIAT season
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: card under Turkey Ella shik as a promoter. Uh And
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: what do we think is gonna happen? I have my ideas, Jamison,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: what's what's next for for our boy?
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: For Canelo?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I think it all comes down if there's a rematch
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: or not. Because little rematch or not.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: That's obviously one of them, right, Like that's obviously the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: common thing, and then there's not. Then I bet you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: see a filler for the next one, and then can
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: see how things go for the last one. I don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: think there's like a huge I mean, Can is always
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: gonna draw, so it's always.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Gonna be people wanting to fight.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I just don't know what fights that he really wants
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: to make it this time.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: See good Our producer j' right Davis, he asked on
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: on Blue Sky that whether we think Can's gonna fight
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Benavidez or not. I gave that a straight hell no,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: hell no, no, Yeah, for the reasons that I mentioned before.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: You know, Benavitez is a big guy. Bevo was a
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: big guy.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Canelo was a little guy that got beefy and Cano
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: or sorry Bud Crawford was a little guy that got
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: beef as well, and Cal couldn't do it. So I
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: think it's it's eye opening for him, probably more so
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: than before because obviously he didn't want to Benevegas fight, right,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: but that is never I would be shocked. I would
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: be I'll go on record and say I don't believe
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: it's ever gonna happen.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I've been wrong before, I've never been afraid to be wrong.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. I mean, I can't imagine if
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: he's trying to, you know, milk this Saudi contract for
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: as much as he can, that he wouldn't take a
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: rematch because other than the Vedas fight, there's I don't
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: think there's any other fight he could make.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: This really gonna get the you know, the the following,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: you know, the excitement, the hype. If you really wanna,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: if you really want to make this payout for you
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: call it's got to be another another butt fight.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: We have a rematch. But here's the thing, Bud has
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: to one to do the rematch, Like Bud doesn't have
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: to be the rematch, doesn't. That's a good pun.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think he would turn it down because it's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: obviously favoring him a lot, But I don't think he
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: wants I mean, he has to want to do it,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that's the first thing. Secondly, Canelo would have to want
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: to do it as well. And if the money the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: thing is I don't know where the general interest is
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: for it, obviously people will go. It will probably solid
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: a legion again if that's where you had it. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the height with the first one
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: would transfer to the second one.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Okay my opinion, I think you should take these, finish
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: off the Sunny contract and retire. Honestly, you know, no shade,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: he's man's a legend. He also cemented himself in boxing history.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: He's one of the best to ever do it. But
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I would rather he you know, dipped, than just kind
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: of keep coming back and just become a sad situation
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: where you should have just passed its pride and should
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: retired ages ago. We've seen that as well.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: That also, you've made the money, so money should not
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: be a should not be an option. You have a
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame career, You're one of the best fighters
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of your generation. I don't think there's anything more to prove.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Like I said, not finding better Vita, like that's not happening.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I was don't wanna read match with anyone else, play
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: off the string, like I said, you can have two
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: random fights and then call it a day.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I don't. I just don't see it. I just don't
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: want to see him. Could remember before this fight was made,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: there's a rumor that he was gonna fight Jake.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Paul And you know, I don't think that's gonna happen,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: But you know that was I think he was using
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: it as leverage. But yeah, I think that we see Canelo.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I don't see him taking on anything crazy. I don't
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: see him doing anything and challenged at this date. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna you know, it is what it is.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: He had a great run, a hell of a run,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of fights. But I agree with you, I
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: think it's time.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Well, there's two avenues here. Yeah, I agree with you.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: We're not gonna see a Bevo rematch. We're not gonna
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: see it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: A bit of beat this fight. If he on, whether
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: there's a Butter rematch, the question.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Is is he going to take two whatever fights you
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: know makes money and dip or is he gonna take
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: these two fights and then keep going in twenty twenty
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: seven and forward?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: And should he? You know, the man's got the man
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: has got a crazy, hell of an ego. Let's be
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: let's be legit.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: You know, he he probably wanted to go out on
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: a high as his career was was winding down.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: That but also here's the thing we don't know what
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: boxing looks like in another year or two. We don't
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: know who steps up, We don't know who emerges, We
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: don't know anything. So if there's something that comes out
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of nowhere and presents himself, all right, I get it.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: But until that actually happens, I don't know. I don't know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's probably gonna have to do something
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: outside the box, uh to get attention, even if it's
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: a random fight, like he said he wanted to fight
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: in London. Maybe he does something like that he fought
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: in Saturday for Maybe he does that it. Maybe he
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: goes back to Waldo how to you know, to his
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: hometown and because that that last, how do I get
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: that British guy sold out in like like the idea
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: so he could do he could do that again, so
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: in order to kind of not just have him sort
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: of putter out of the of the sport. You know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: hadn't had something like that where you can say, okay,
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Canelo in London, you know him in the photo next
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: to the bridge and the you know, the queen or whatever.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I don't have a queen any you know what I mean?
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, but something like that would really he's really
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: gotta gotta find a hook for twenty twenty six to
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: uh to kind of garter the attention and the hype.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they love the man, you know, had
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: an amazing career.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: But he's just think though, we can't we cannot get
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: stuck in the situation where he had a couple of
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: losses and he's on his way out in his late
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: thirties and just say, well, he sucks.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Now, he's trashed, he's a bum, et cetera.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: You know, the man had an amazing run and he
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: should always be given credit for that, doesn't It's not.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: A bad fight either, That's the thing, right right, Yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: he got embarrassed out there that one he just lost.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think the fight was one thing
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Team one thirteen, but it wasn't like I watched one
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: point one Wight, So it wasn't that anyone else he fights,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: sorry night fight wins.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: It's just he fought against the guy that just that
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: damn good.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, Oh man, I don't know.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: I mean over the weekend the a r ip Ricky
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: hadn't Christian Mobiley versus Lester Martinez amazing fight with these
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: two guys on the same card.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: You know, it was just a an all around.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Amazing event and just a really interesting weekend for boxing.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Uh now yeah, in a way.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Came back on Sunday, I said, I thought that after
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: the Canal fight, I would be able to stay awake
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: till I think what three forty am.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: To us to know? Yeah, you know, wait, fight live
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: famous last words.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I'm alad you bring that up. We don't need no
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: flight fight starting at ten pm on local time. We
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: don't need that because we need nine pm to be
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the because remember we're on the West coast, so it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: we were okay, but if you're in the midwest East coast,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: this is rough one am start time.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I that doesn't does It doesn't bother
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: me because I'm a night out and I don't get
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: enough sleep anyway. But at the same to me, boxing
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: was always like the middle of the night kind of event. Uh,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: you know, stay standing up late as a kid, later
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: than I should be to watch fights. Uh you know
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: with the family. I don't know, it just seems yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: but boxing is indoors. Boxing is you know, it's it's
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: a night time event. That's why when when I was,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: you know, taking boxing classes and sparring, and I asked
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: the buddy of mine to run with me.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: He was just like, yeah, let's meat up at seven
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: in the morning. I'm like, hell, Moore, boxing is a.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Night's I'm not gonna go.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: We were like jogging in the cold in the winter,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, this sucks. So so yeah, I get
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: what you're saying, but I don't know. That's always been always.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Remember it's not for us.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: We're fine, bro, Like a one am start time, ain't it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I okay, I'll get you one am. You tell
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: me main event starts at midnight my time wherever I am.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I'm still okay with that, you know.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's the issue, though, there's more people you
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: can get if your main.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Event starts at ten thirty eleven, sure in the night,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, if that's the we
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: all thought the business mark, if that's what we're wrong,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: then yeah, like we have to we gotta be smart
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: about this.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: So one of the less things here we can finish
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: up with this. How do you feel about Netflix being
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: involved in boxing? I mean, obviously it was the fact
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: that Netflix, it didn't do what we what we said
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: could potentially happen is they throw on a fight and
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: then just like sits there and you want to watch
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: you want to watch it. There was promotion they did
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: they you know, they advertise all of the the press
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: conferences all that. You know, they really really went on
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: this as a major effect. Do you think it was
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: good for Netflix to be involved in this fight? Yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: it was cool. I didn't like that the post fight
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: fee went out. I didn't like that, but for the
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: most part it was cool. You know, it was clear,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: it was no buffering. The servers were good, like, it
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: was all good. The team, the announcement team was good.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: The I forgot the Skipper's card was kind of off.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: I thought that was kind of weird. But whatever.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: But with all that being said, it was a really
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: good production.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Agreed.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: I think that what Netflick has to do is to
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: get into the smaller fights, you know, not just the
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: ones every like I said once every year every two
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: years mega fights. It's hey, remember we're the guys that
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: put on Canela Crawford.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Let's watch you know whatever.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: I could tell me Maltpus fighter or something like that,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: and just get more uh more quantity of the good
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: fighters that we know, right, and I think that that's
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: gonna be a that's gonna be a very good option
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: for boxing going forward.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Top rank, you know, still kind of in the wind.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I saw a thing online that now, in a way
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: if I was going to be broadcast live on.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Facebook, which is weird.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Don't know what what Top Break is going to be doing,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: but it's here's another thing. People on Instagram at the
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: very least, we're commenting, okay, so where can I see
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: this fight?
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Where can I seek about this?
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: And that's what happens when you leave ESPN and you
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: don't have a home, as we've said, so we gotta.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: How about it?
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Pick something, dammit, just pick a channel, pick a streaming network.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I don't care, you know, I think that's coming because
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: what's happening is you have people who are in charge,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: that are the adults in the room now, and that
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: are they're here to make a deal. They're not here
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: to tell you how great they are or any nonsense
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: like that. They're here to make a deal, which is
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: always good. And the guy from UFC, why am I
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: for not? Why am I offering his name for something?
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Way? Yes? Yes, he's here to make a deal.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: He's here to make sure we get fights because in
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: his sport, we get fights, and well we like you'll
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: see or not, they fight a lot and there's a
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: lot of big events. So with that being said, it's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: a big deal. It makes a lot of sense for
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: there to be actual fight, you know, it makes sense
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: to be like, hey, you know what, let's put them
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: on TV. Let's have somewhere where boxing fans know where
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be at. So it makes sense.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Well that's pretty much all I had.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know if there's any final thoughts you got
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: about this this amazing weekend.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Let's call it an amazing weekend for boxing.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: All yeah, no, I can't wait to see what's the next.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I'm very curious.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: I really don't feel that this is like the thing
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: happened and then everybody just kind of shrokes their soldiers
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: and I was like, all right, whatever you know for
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: you now, people are I feel the vibe is excitement
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: because but the but's the big star right now, he's
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: got a lot of attention that he hadn't had before.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Fans of his like ours, are excited for other people
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: to say, wait, this guy was this guy? Yeah, so
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: I I don't think it wasn't like you know, peek
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: and then you know the exciting that went down. Hell,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: I think it's a good time for Boxing to kind
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: of write.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: This waves as far as I.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Definitely cool.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I guess maybe call this episode what twenty last episode?
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Twenty four?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Is this twenty four point five twenty five? I don't
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: even know bonus episode, but episode bonus episode? Yeah, okay,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Jamison Breaking people find you on social media.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: On Twitter at the Jamison That's where I'm at most. Oh,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: there you go.
• 40:31
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