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- 0:01The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start your day
- 0:06and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show. Monday morning, twenty seventh
- 0:13day of November. Hi, I'm Wes, Thanks for joining me. Welcome
- 0:16back. Took the week off. I did a Mate of Stars show last
- 0:21week. Sean and I were able to take care of that on Wednesday of
- 0:27last week, so we did that show. But that was the only real
- 0:31work I did last week. I was able to get some time with family
- 0:36and it was much needed time with family. I hope you were able to
- 0:38spend some time with yours and I hope you had a good Thanksgiving, And
- 0:44really the whole weekend for us was productive in a lot of ways. Took
- 0:51some time to certainly be thankful and appreciate a lot of things, because this
- 0:56is, if nothing else, the time to do that. I always tell
- 0:59my friends that this is a shift, but it's just the mindset thing for
- 1:03me. I think Thanksgiving is important in that regard and that you it's a
- 1:11you know, we're the only first country to do that, I guess,
- 1:14but the opportunity to just take a minute, take a breath, take a
- 1:18beat, and be thankful, And I feel like I was gonna say I
- 1:21tell my friends that sometimes I remember one friend in particular as mom passed away,
- 1:29and I went to the visitation the night before the funeral and spent some
- 1:37time with him and with the rest of his family that day, and the
- 1:40next day I went to the funeral and he's like, you didn't have to
- 1:44come with the funeral, man, you came yesterday. And I said,
- 1:46well, yesterday was for you, today is for me. This is my
- 1:49reminder. The funeral to me is a reminder that you know, there's a
- 1:53clock and it's ticking for all of us. Don't want to get heavy,
- 1:57don't want to get deep and get depressing or anything starting off our week and
- 2:02and back after getting some time off. But I feel like that also applies
- 2:08like to Thanksgiving. It's just a time to reflect. It's a time to
- 2:13be thankful for a lot of things. I know we have those moments where
- 2:15it seems like the world has gone mad. There's certainly plenty of examples of
- 2:22that. We've got this situation in Ireland that's now on the board and it
- 2:25feels like there's just a world war brewing. And I mean it there's all
- 2:31these things that just feel like tipping points, and many of them circle around
- 2:35immigration or lack of immigration or whatever. And it feels so intense right now,
- 2:40and it feels like there's so many cases of people that have just lost
- 2:44their minds and there's no common sense. We've lost our ability to rationalize things,
- 2:52and it's just it's very frustrating. So taking a few moments to appreciate
- 2:57what we do have and where we currently are is certainly helpful. And that's
- 3:01part of what the holiday is all about. That and eating some food.
- 3:05And I hope you were able to eat some good food and spend some time
- 3:07with loved ones. I hope all of that applied. So couple things,
- 3:13and I want to also mention this, and I'll quickly just talk about the
- 3:16Nutcracker and the Mother Ginger Tea Party. One of my regular listeners, Ben
- 3:22messaged me and said he got his tickets for the Mother Ginger Tea Party.
- 3:24He's excited about bringing his daughter to that. And he also said, oh,
- 3:29and make sure to let your listeners know there's a ten percent discount when
- 3:32you sign up for that on your tickets for the Nutcrackers. So it's another
- 3:36bonus that goes along with it when you do that. So thanks for the
- 3:40reminder on that. And I think I mentioned it once, but I don't
- 3:43think I've been mentioning it each time. But again, if you're getting tickets
- 3:46for The Nutcracker and it's December sixteenth and seventeenth or the show dates, the
- 3:51Mother Ginger Tea is lunchtime on the sixteenth, which is the Saturday before the
- 3:58evening show. If you're getting a tickets, don't get them from a third
- 4:00party seller. Make sure to get them through the River Center, through the
- 4:02River Center box office. Ben was telling me he actually got them for even
- 4:06cheaper by going actually into the River Center, so it's another plus to the
- 4:11whole thing. So but really looking forward to it. Information is on the
- 4:15Columbus Ballet dot org. That's the website for the Columbus Ballet. And we're
- 4:18gonna have a good time putting on that show again, okay, And I
- 4:23am insanely excited about it. But I'm trying not to just spend giant chunks
- 4:28of the show today talking about The Nutcracker because I want to talk about back
- 4:31to this topic of people losing their mind and lack of common sense, and
- 4:36I want to make sure to preface that this particular story is not about the
- 4:43US, it's about Canada, and it's but you can't help but feel that
- 4:50this is a real possibility of making its way across the border into the States,
- 4:57and maybe it's already made its way into the States. I don't know.
- 5:00There probably are a number of people ready to start using this term.
- 5:09I mean, I think there's already people that are there when it comes to
- 5:13the premise of what the complaint is. But there's a new term that comes
- 5:17into this, and I feel like, if it's not already in the States,
- 5:19it's coming. So the Canadian Human Rights Commission has decided basically that the
- 5:28practice in Canada of holidays of Christian significance is an evidence of religious intolerance.
- 5:38So Christmas and Easter are the two main ones they've got issues with, and
- 5:43they basically say that Canada should work towards eradicating the religious intolerance of those holidays,
- 5:50of the fact that the country practices those holidays, And they basically say
- 5:58that here we go, that there's the systemic racism that's a persistent problem in
- 6:04Canada. This is from a quote and they say that now they need to
- 6:11focus on systemic faithism. Yeah, there, it is systemic faithism. They
- 6:17say that religious intolerance can materialize in many ways, from microaggressions to lack of
- 6:27accommodation and acceptance of religious practices. Uh okay oh, And as a result,
- 6:36non Christians may need to request special accommodations to observe their holy days and
- 6:42other times of the year where religious religion requires them to abstain from work.
- 6:47All right, now, I'm gonna confess I have not really done a full
- 6:50deep dive into what this paper says. But I'm gonna We're gonna come back
- 6:58across the border where I can speak a little more intelligently about the laws that
- 7:03we have here. There have been people here that have been advocating for,
- 7:09you know, not acknowledging any sort of Christian holidays here in the States.
- 7:14That's been something they feel that, you know, we've had this push to
- 7:17not say Merry Christmas, but to say happy Holidays. That one's not really
- 7:24bothered me the way that it bothers some people. And it's interesting the way
- 7:27some people get worked up about it. The use of X mess which the
- 7:30X means Christ but so No, they're putting an X in the place of
- 7:36Christ. They're trying to eliminate that that one. There was a time where
- 7:41I just didn't really know better, and I think I thought I got worked
- 7:45up about that one again. That one doesn't bother me. X means Christ,
- 7:47That's what it means. Don't have a problem with that one either,
- 7:50And if you do, that's fine. I don't mean it to be insulting
- 7:54when I say don't know better. For me, I was coming from a
- 7:58place of ignorance about it, and I got to a place where I'm comfortable
- 8:01with it. It might not be my favorite way to refer to it,
- 8:05but that's all I mean by that. So I do feel that we're in
- 8:11a time, in a place in America, and we have been for a
- 8:15while now where I feel like I don't think it's about eliminating religion for the
- 8:20purposes of eliminating religion. I think it's about trying to eliminate the church from
- 8:28its role in our society because our founders assumed that communities would take care of
- 8:33each other when we were in times of crisis. When farmers, you know,
- 8:39early on, if the crop didn't come in, if one person's crop
- 8:43just didn't happen. Other people in the community took care of them, oftentimes
- 8:48through the churches. You know, teachers were paid through the community, sometimes
- 8:56just in housing and food and you know, very small amount of money.
- 9:01That was the way it worked. It wasn't a case of we're going to
- 9:05tax everyone and have you know, unions for the teachers that are going to
- 9:11create voting blocks. And what's the spider web mentality, We're stronger a spider
- 9:16can take down a lion with other spiders working together. That mindset that comes
- 9:22into play with unions and things. So I do believe that anytime you see
- 9:33an attack on faith in general, I think it's often sort of an attack
- 9:39on being able to push aside churches from being able to help because the government
- 9:46wants us to depend on them. That's what they want. They don't want
- 9:50they don't want churches stepping in and helping a family and need. They want
- 9:56a family in need to turn to them for help and then have them in
- 10:01a position where they're going to always need that help, because why would you
- 10:05not vote for a politician that's promising to always take care of your needs to
- 10:09keep you, you know, with your hand out. That's what they want.
- 10:15That's a way to control you, and that's a way to buy your
- 10:18vote. And I've told this story many times, but I have a friend
- 10:20who's now passed away, but she told me when she was a kid,
- 10:26the town that she lived in basically gave her family a home. They gave
- 10:33a few families homes because it was something that had been put into place by
- 10:37the mayor at the time, and her family was picked as one of them
- 10:43that would went a home, and that they weren't a place where they really
- 10:46needed a home, they needed somewhere to stay, and it really helped them
- 10:48out. And that because the mayor was a Democrat, she voted Democrat or
- 10:52whole life out of obligation as a way to pay them back for this house
- 10:58that was given to them. And I think that's a perfect example. And
- 11:01I remember asking her, like, you don't see that that could be deemed
- 11:05as a problem, especially for the people who didn't get homes, or maybe
- 11:09for the people who donated to help make it happen, or the taxpayers who
- 11:13help make it happen. She no, she did not, She didn't see
- 11:16that as a problem at all. But I do I do see where that
- 11:22can be a problem. So I do think that there is an attack on
- 11:24churches for that reason. I think that there are a lot of people in
- 11:28our government that do not want churches playing that role of someone who can help,
- 11:35someone who can actually step in. Hey, your house burned down.
- 11:39Let us do what we can to help get you set back up and back
- 11:41functioning again. You lost your job, You're in a bad way. You
- 11:48need food. You know, There's always been a role for churches in filling
- 11:52that need. I don't think that that's what a lot in our government want
- 11:56there to be. I don't think they want communities helping out. I think
- 12:00they want someone there to assist. This, of course, is much bigger
- 12:05than that, because this that's happening in Canada is more of a case of
- 12:11specifically targeting Christianity, because as you know, there's only certain groups that can
- 12:18be targeted. You can't target many faith groups. I'm not going to name
- 12:22the ones you can't target. I'll name the ones you can. Christians and
- 12:28the Jewish temples. That's two. That's two churches that you're allowed to attack.
- 12:35In some cases, the Christian churches are doing their own damage within their
- 12:39own walls. But that's another conversation for another time. This is a specific
- 12:46incidence here where they're saying that it's intolerant to allow people in a country.
- 12:54By the way, Canada is sixty three point two percent of the population is
- 13:01they considered Christian, sixty three point two percent of the country would practice.
- 13:11And some people who practice Christian holidays like Christmas specifically, aren't necessarily religious.
- 13:18They're not necessarily doing it because of Christmas being anything that with a religious connotation
- 13:26to it. They're just celebrating the holiday. You may or may not know,
- 13:31but really the celebration ties into basically, the Church took the holiday away
- 13:41from the Pagans. This time of year was probably not the actual birth of
- 13:46Christ. It would have been probably in the spring. Shepherds were out in
- 13:50the field. They weren't doing that in late December. But the holiday,
- 13:54the celebration of it, became this day because it was already a day for
- 13:58celebrate and gathering and it was the right time of year for it, and
- 14:03they said, we're going to make this our holiday, and they did.
- 14:05That's the story behind picking that time of year. It related to the winter
- 14:11solstice, and some people I know some people who still celebrate that. They
- 14:15don't necessarily even celebrate Christmas, but it all ties into that time of year.
- 14:20So some people are celebrating Christmas just because it's a holiday, just because
- 14:24it's time to spend with family, and it's consumerism and it's all those sorts
- 14:28of things that tie into it. For those of us that actually celebrate it
- 14:33as a religious holiday, we're celebrating the other things too. There's other aspects
- 14:37of the holiday, and some of that sadly does tie into consumerism and all
- 14:41that other stuff. But all that's there, but it just means a little
- 14:46bit more to those that are actually celebrating it as a Christian holiday. Easter
- 14:52is very much a religious holiday, absolutely, but no one's for to participate
- 15:01in either of the holidays. Many do participate in one or both of those
- 15:07holidays for different reasons. Business owners certainly don't have a problem with it when
- 15:11it helps them close out the year with a solid sales book, right,
- 15:16they want that, so trying to take it away and like I said,
- 15:22come back into stateside where here. If you don't want to participate in a
- 15:28holiday, you certainly don't have to. Schools have made it clear that they're
- 15:31not going to do that. My son's school just had a Dwali dance in
- 15:37celebration. Pretty sure they refer to any of the holidays in the month of
- 15:41December as winter holidays. I don't think they refer to it as Christmas at
- 15:48all. But the Dwali celebration that they had, the Duali dance, certainly
- 15:54has religious connotations to it. They're allowed to say that, and that's fine.
- 16:00I didn't I don't mind that at all. There's many kids whose families
- 16:04would be celebrating Dwali at this particular school. That's fine. My family doesn't
- 16:11celebrate Dwali. We don't do that. But there was a school dance for
- 16:17it, and there were many kids there, and it's a cultural thing that
- 16:18were able to eat some different foods. That's what was happening at the school
- 16:22at the dance, But no one was forced to participate in it. It
- 16:26was completely optional. And that's also the same for Christmas and Easter and any
- 16:33of the holidays. If you want to tell me that your religion requires you
- 16:37to not work on a certain day, I think that's a valid reason to
- 16:41take a day off from work. If that's actually a religious reason if you're
- 16:45just taking the day off of work, because you can say it the old
- 16:48Zach Morris from say by the Beltrick. No, but if you're going to
- 16:52say, hey, this is my faith. But I also think Christians should
- 16:57be afforded the same thing. Right. Remember, there's been a number of
- 17:00people who've lost their jobs because they didn't want to work on Sunday for religious
- 17:04reasons, and there's no accommodation made for that. And there are many that
- 17:10seem to think, well, they should have worked. That's when they knew
- 17:11they were supposed to work. So this should cover everyone across the board equally,
- 17:15shouldn't it? For us? Here in America, there's no national religion
- 17:22and there's nothing could be put on the books to force one or to limit
- 17:29your ability to celebrate your religion as you see fit. They're not allowed to
- 17:33stop you from doing that. We don't have a freedom from religion in America.
- 17:37People seem to think that we do. We don't. We really don't.
- 17:41And this notion of separation from church and state, that's not from the
- 17:45Constitution. The founders didn't put that in there. I would have a problem
- 17:49if someone was forcing my children to participate. If they were forced to go
- 17:55to the Dwali dance, I'd have a problem with that. I liked that
- 17:59it was an option. I think it's great good. The kids that want
- 18:03to go to that can go to that. The kids that don't don't have
- 18:06to go to that. There's no extra credit, there's no bonus involved in
- 18:07it. It's just an event that kids were able to participate in. I'm
- 18:12all for that. Let's do that, let's do that. Why can't What
- 18:18is this concept now? And of course this is what's now bleeding in and
- 18:22is this term systemic faithism starts to make its way and if it's not here,
- 18:27it's coming. I'm telling you this is going to be a thing.
- 18:30We go through, this notion of systemic racism because just by calling it systemic
- 18:36means there's nothing you can do that prevents you from participating in it, because
- 18:41you're participating in it just by existing. And once it's systemic faithism, it's
- 18:48the same thing. You can't there's no arguing against it, there's no debating
- 18:52it, there's no discussing it. It's there, it exists, and you
- 18:56are part of the problem because you exist. That's it. There's no other
- 19:02reason for there to be a problem other than the fact that you exist and
- 19:07it exists. So you're the problem, and that's just it. You have
- 19:10to deal with it. You just have to deal It's there. Racism,
- 19:14faithism, they're just there, and there's nothing you can do to separate yourself
- 19:18from it, no matter how hard you try, no matter what you do.
- 19:23It's an unwinnable battle. It's a non winnable fight. You just have
- 19:29to accept the fact you're the problem and that the people that are affected by
- 19:33it on the quote unquote negative side can do whatever they want to do to
- 19:40try to make it more fair, to balance it out, even though there's
- 19:44really nothing that can be done because it's systemic. It's there, there's nothing
- 19:48you It's an unfixable problem. It's like climate change. It's an unfixable problem.
- 19:53But they're going to tell you that they can fix it because it allows
- 19:57them to do so many things. Ultimately, the thing that they get to
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- 23:26five hundred O dccolumbus dot com more West Carol Morning Show. Right after the
- 23:30break the Hunger Games, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes topped the box office
- 23:44for the weekend twenty eight point eight million. Napoleon twenty point four million.
- 23:48The Joaquin Phoenix movie about Napoleon was in second place, Wish nineteen point five
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- 24:15point three million for the weekend. As far as this recapping a little bit
- 24:22on Thanksgiving and a new survey done as people start talking about things that they
- 24:30appreciate and that they're thankful for, new survey said seventy seven percent said the
- 24:34holidays make them feel more grateful than any other time of year. Seventy five
- 24:41percent said that they expressed that gratitude more often during the holidays. Seventy six
- 24:45percent of those surveys said they feel more connected to their loved ones, and
- 24:48forty six percent noticed that others express their gratitude more as well. According to
- 24:56a new survey, seventy three percent said the best thing about hosting Thanksgiving is
- 25:02the leftovers. Another survey said seventy percent said that Thanksgiving dinner, leftovers tastes
- 25:07better than the original meal, and about thirty five percent said they eat leftovers
- 25:12for five days or more. Fifty six percent went on to say that Thanksgiving
- 25:18would be ruined if there weren't any leftovers. Do you still have any?
- 25:22We actually wrapped all of ours up. I think by about Friday, no,
- 25:27Saturday. At some point Saturday, I think the last of them were
- 25:33eating in our house. Yeah, maybe lunchtime by Saturday. It's a good
- 25:37couple of days. And that's about it. And honestly, by the end,
- 25:40I was the only one really eating them. So it's just the reality
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- 26:52goes, Calorie Control Council says that average Americans would have eaten about forty five
- 26:57hundred calories or more or two hundred twenty nine grams of fat on Thanksgiving Day.
- 27:03It would take fifteen hours of cycling, a ten point three hour hike,
- 27:07or a twenty eight mile run to take care of all those calories.
- 27:11We do a Wednesday before Thanksgiving hike that I've done that a couple times over
- 27:17the last few years, and we like it. It's a nice, nice
- 27:19way to kind of get into the I mean, it's the day before,
- 27:23but at least we've done the hike right then. One more thing, as
- 27:27far as the Thanksgiving goes, the first Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade had live animals
- 27:33and not balloons. Parade started nineteen twenty four. Live animals were paraded through
- 27:37the streets of New York. Elephants, tigers, and others came from Central
- 27:42Parks Zoo. The balloons started in nineteen twenty seven and the first balloon was
- 27:51Felix the Cat. So there you go. That'll do it for this Monday
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