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Book Talk With Katie Bailey! · Moms That Read

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[SPEAKER_01]: I worked welcome to the moms that we podcast on Kaylee and I'm a Kinsey and today we have the special guest We're gonna get let her kind of introduce herself a little bit more, but we have Kaylee Bailey who were really excited to talk to today So if you want to just introduce yourself real quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much for having me I'm Kaylee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Ron come off here and yeah excited to be here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah What inspired you to first start writing romance?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I always laugh when I get this question as the answer is very uninspiring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: COVID happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what's in?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fine, that's, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, I opened a bakery because of COVID.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Congrats, like, super cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, we turned to COVID into something good, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was, I worked in travel before I was in the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, of course, when COVID hit,
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[SPEAKER_00]: everything shut down within like a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My company laid everybody off like it was just like a snowball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and yeah, I was like, what am I going to do now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really found her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I doing so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had you not written before, COVID.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not in my adult life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I used to love writing when I was a kid, like I would make a story all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like it was revisiting my childhood in a lot of ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I had not written anything creative, probably since college when I took a creative writing class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'd been a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well what made you focus on because you write mostly hockey romance or I feel like well I've read your like first four books I read all of your books all of them but the first four are not hockey but then the the latest ones have been all hockey what made you focus on hockey
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, I really wanted to do a holiday romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, actually the idea for season scheming is it like just popped into my head one day super clearly, which I never have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I one of those like agonizing people when it comes to like trying to figure out like what the damn book's going to be about like, and this was just like such a clear idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it just like kind of came to me and I was like, oh, I need to write this book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and because it was like a
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[SPEAKER_00]: talking made a lot of sense to incorporate plus it's a winter sport, I mean Canada, we watch a lot of hockey here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just all kind of fit and I think at the time there wasn't a huge amount of other holiday themed hockey romances, so I just kind of saw an avenue and jumped on it and that's how the cyclones came about and then my latest books, the Loft Three Bee Boys with the
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was just because she had a hockey player in her series and I had a little girl in my series and when we grew them up, he's still played hockey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we just decided to do another hockey series kind of rolling off of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's like the thing right now is hockey, romance, all the seasons and I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm eating up like all of the ones that are in that right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, spitting off of that, what inspired you to write closed or books instead of like open spice?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, I can't like when I came into my writing at the beginning, I wasn't like super familiar, um, with kind of like however thing worked in the romance world with romance readers and expectations and things like that, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just kind of went for something that I felt comfortable writing and that, yeah, that worked for me, and then I didn't really know, I guess, at the time, that there was all these kind of different levels of, um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spice in like even rom-coms like I started off with rom-coms and I read like lots of rom-coms before and none of them were particularly spicy and I think that's been a more recent shift where um yeah seeing a lot more spicy rom-coms right um so yeah for me it was just like a good fit it worked I didn't even realize it was such a like strong label yeah and I started um and then that's just kind of where I found my feet and where I felt comfortable so yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like you have to be really strategic with like the emotional build-up between the characters because it is more like a closed door romance Do you feel like there's more pressure on that or does that kind of just a really natural?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's kind of important, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you don't have the sex scenes in the book, and my books are either closed door or fade to black.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't have any sex on the page, um, and when you don't have like the connection of sex happening on the page, you need it to happen somewhere else, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are emotions in the tension in the yearning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just kind of like part of the fun for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a different way of crafting and portraying those feelings in your characters like there's still sexual beings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, obviously like it's romantic they're getting together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's figuring out how to convey all of that without being able to utilize like having the sexiness on the page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah it's the same they could different coming at the same thing from a different angle I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you ever get pushed back from readers or like feel pressured to have to add spice to any of your books?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes and no, again like we talk about labels here and I don't particularly love a lot of labels I will say that like I think they can be quite limiting, but I know there are a lot of like readers who are very, very, that have very, very strict boundaries and where they'll go and I actually almost have the opposite where I have like some pushback for majors who want
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I have pushed back on that side and then I have a lot of spicy readers and I think some of them would, I mean, but I do get nice compliments like I didn't miss this spice in this and I see readers which I love because it means I'm doing my job properly when we talked about, yeah,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I definitely like I think I honestly like you were talking about the labels when I first started reading again I didn't realize there was a big divide in the romance world about closed or an open door And so for me it's the plot like I love the banter I love the chemistry between the characters whether it's closed or open door And so that was like one of the things on Twitter I was like I like ate up all those books so fast just because like I didn't need it But like it was just so good even without it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like so good
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[SPEAKER_02]: I started reading like picked up Sarah Adams books and then this was before she had started putting in these bison her books so like you said I didn't know that there was a thing with spiced so then I just started picking up I started following like all of these closed or booktunkers and whatnot and your books came up a lot so then I just went down the rabbit hole of Katy Bailey
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's nice to hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Sarah Adams is such a great example of like I've read all of her books and with her without spiced, they're amazing and you feel that same tension from that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I can even be doing it one tenth as good as her, I feel like I'm winning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so what is your favorite part of the writing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like the Flirty Banner?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like the emotional moments or like the happy, like kind of wrap up moment at the end?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what's your favorite part to write?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate writing endings so definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got how you're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what can I be done with this now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: um the banter for sure um I love like a kind of flirty flirt MMC so um I have fun with those like those particular MMCs writing the banter and I love writing the first kiss scene as well when you get a little bit of payoff for that yeah build up yeah who has been your favorite character so far to write about
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think for the girls, Lana May, from I think he knows she was, I put the most of my self into her, so I feel like it was like kind of one of the harder ones to write, but kind of cathartic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I loved writing, said, from season skimings for the boys, because he was Canadian, so I got to put it in all my Canadianisms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he was such a flirty flirt, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, he's flirted with you and she's so rich.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She has, I read this one, that one, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm trying to get her into the, um, the two hockey, um, Christmas books.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so the most recent one that we've read is rookie season, and so kind of going along with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If rookie season was adapted into a TV show or a movie, who would be like your dreamcast for Noah and Ali.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I have actually had multiple conversations with different people about this, because I am very much a millennial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, practice is so young.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And whenever I was trying to think of I have a reader who casts all of my books and she's like she loves casting books and I'm talking back and forth with her And it's like these people are they're so young and if you get to the top actors who are that age is like, oh, they're babies And they're all in my hands, you know
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just pretend that they're older in my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, so I had to do a bit of digging because also I feel like my mind definitely goes to older actors immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have like some familiar on myself, familiarize myself with more like Genzi actors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that, um, Madeline Klein, um, or, you would make it really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, that's nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be so good, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then Noah was harder because he's got that very specific brand of grump, um, but then I watched, um, I think all around the time this came out, I watched the latest season of Ginny and Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you guys seen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the guy in that, his name is the actor's name is Felix Mallard, and I had never even noticed him before because he had this like emo looking floppy hair going on in the first couple of seasons and he went to season three with us like fresh hair cut and he's real intense eyes and I was like yeah you'll do you work this is fine yes I love that so much okay so was Noah and Ali based off in the notebook or was that just coincidence?
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[SPEAKER_00]: purely coincidental.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We realized we were like, he cannot call her legs like whenever she's a child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I remember reading about her and then I was like, wait, I swear she has written a book about an Allegro before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's in that so that happened and I think he knows and she actually makes it appear in since he's in steamings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's not on the bed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I read her before but I was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember because she's writing this book with someone else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, very much a second gen, kind of like merging our worlds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, it's kind of 10 years in the future from one of all of our other books are set.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, she went by legs, which was like a joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that happened, it's like a whole set up joke of the story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of an unfortunate, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so Ali was just an easy nickname for a leg run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then a reader was like, you know, those are the note-back names.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really didn't even think about it until we were talking about the questions the other day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, it is the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it did not even make me like, I was not there long since that movie, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really had fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I picked up on it and I was like, I wonder if this was done on purpose or if this was just a coincidence because that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're obsessing over what he sees in our is there going to be more from the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'll be a trilogy, um, we're working on back to right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole like you're co-writing it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that process like more complicated than writing it by yourself?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm matching it very much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Could be, um, but Leah and I, we,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have our debut books came out the same week and we have been talking since then, like, and we became very, very close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had met in person before, like, so we were already very good friends and very aware of each other's processes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've both been each other's critique partners for a long time, so we're used to each other's early drafts, which are like those nasty drafts you don't know, nobody, you know, like, like, what does this girl think she's been writing a book a time drive?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were aware kind of how each other's process is worked and it's actually been really nice because writing super insular, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're on your own all day looking at your computer and it's been really fun to do something a bit more collaborative like Ricky season was the most fun if had writing a book in a while like yeah, it was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to Joel switch off like chapter, like, how does that work?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you have the correct answer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have like a bit of a process that we did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't really talked about publicly, but like we had, we developed a process that worked for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're just kind of utilizing that as we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been, yeah, it's been super.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was super successful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it was so seamless.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When she told me Katie Bailey, I was like, okay, and then I saw the cover and I was like, wait, there's another name on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I would have never even, it's kind of like Christine Allora and like we've read about three of their books before we figured out they were two people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, wow, I would have never thought that they're amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just amazing writers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they, whenever they do interviews, they always say they bring out the best in each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Leanne, we really felt that they were more both very,
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[SPEAKER_00]: aware of our own weaknesses and things that were naturally better at and we just we're very much like no offense taken play to our strength so it worked yeah that's awesome it so it works really well whatever y'all are doing it's really good what is your favorite trope to write about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, forced proximity for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like most of my books have a heavy dose of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I, I loved writing the marriage of convenience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually thinking about that recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How I would like to write another one because that was, that just sets up so much potential fun right off the bat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love the marriage of convenience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes the banter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like so much better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say the logic room scenes in Ricky season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably my favorite scenes in the book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like I was like when not just the first one and then we got a second one I was like yes like that gave me more we were like to we should we have to like during in the laundry room every time absolutely we'll take more ever need ever enough of that one oh the google oh i love asking this question what is the weirdest thing you've had to
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Google probably thinks I'm psychopaths and I feel like most writers would say that it's like you ask so many random questions all the time because you have to educate yourself on the things you write about in Google is like a good
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[SPEAKER_00]: like stepping off point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah we have like I feel like over the years I have probably searched enough stuff to be like on the FBI's radar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even imagine with like crime authors how those kind of golly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We really just interviewed Victoria Wilder and she writes romantic suspense moves and she was telling us that she had to Google like what the fastest way to bleed out is or something like from your night I'm like honestly that would be terrifying to have on
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think probably the most random thing was in my book The Quit List there are like a three day backpacking trip but um so there's a lot of like and how was he questions about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just setting um but there's a scene there where they come across these people larking um and I just want to think about larking yeah um so I'm just like a larking rabbit hole for a little bit my husband is like
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's wrong with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that was so funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: LARPING.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so when you write, do you listen to music when you write or is there like something?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I know we've interviewed some authors that just listen to like sounds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But do you listen to music or sounds?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and now I definitely associate books really strongly with music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have playlists I make for every book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously there's a lot of obviously I'm a swifty and there's a lot of Taylor Swift stuff in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She like and certain albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if hers go with certain books but I tend to I tend to walk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go for walks when I'm like
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[SPEAKER_00]: debriefing my brain on stuff and I listen to music when I'm walking, to make me feel a certain way about like what I'm trying to write and then when I'm actually writing the scenes, yeah, sometimes sometimes silent, sometimes music, sometimes white noise, yeah, whatever, when I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, for me, um, I see, I saw like, I think he knows, which is a like, Rosemalom's book, as like a progression from reputation and to love her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like it was a very similar arc rally in, um, Ricky season, but Leah is not a Swiftie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no official associations with this book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, there's social media for this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, we, she is a major swifty, like, major.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love when an author can relate anything to Taylor Swift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yes, thank you, but no, hey, if you don't like it, not, it's not everybody's cup of tea, but it's so funny to hear like, people's interpretations and like how it relates to different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of talking about the quit list because I loved that idea of like a quit list like things that you were just like nope after a heartbreak did that concept kind of come like was that just one of those things that just came to you that you wanted to write about or how did that come about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought of the title one day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was writing, I think, so that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like the quietness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I thought of that and went down to get title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wrote it down and then I like revisited it and actually the quietness was one of the hardest books for me to try and like formulate
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just had this title in mind, I really wanted to use it as a title, so I kind of made the story fit around the title, which I don't think is more of all writing process for most people most of the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I kind of had to develop what that was going to look like and mean in the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love that though because it was one of my favorite books of yours, so whatever you did worked very well When you like come across something that's I guess frustrating like that like you're having to work around the titles like Do you have a process that you used to kind of work around that or you just kind of keep pushing through?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I am my own worst enemy like so many other authors when I talk and like have dialogue with other authors so many people are so good at like pushing through um or just like writing that complete shitty first draft and and for me like I will back my head against all for weeks if I have to like I have gone weeks before without writing a word just like working like staring trying to figure out the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like my mind needs to like finally get the logic to make things work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't do myself any favors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there was a process, I would use it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to work for my brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're at no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if Jack's had a quit list, what would be on in?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Holy for most of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, in the playlist, is there a particular scene that you're especially proud of and why do you love it so much?
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the quilt list, um, I laughed writing the baby scene when they go into by, um, they get the baby store and they'll come and see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one, um, I rarely laugh when I'm writing like rarely, rarely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I've probably laughed out loud like three times ever writing and that was one where I actually chuckled to myself like that one was so fun to write as well like me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like just felt the mortification with that girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm like, oh, everyone has that one girl from high school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like that person and it was so relatable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was cracking up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, are any of your characters that you wrote inspired by real people or just where they like can fully lay my down?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would say like they're all completely made up like I try to like incorporate things that I like particularly like love about my husband or like see my husband doing that I like like the little
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have some service or whatever, like I try to incorporate those things, like I definitely utilize like things that I love about like my own love story, but yeah the characters themselves like for all intents and purposes are fictional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So is there a scene or character that readers seem to love more than like you initially thought people would kind of catch on to you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would say like, the shower scene in holiday hostilities became like such a fan favorite like immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got, I guess that was not super unexpected like I kind of wrote that knowing it was hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that one was definitely one that just caught on like crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and so that happened Liam singing one direction in the car with his shirt off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was one of a gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I need to get rid of that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, wow, I just kind of threw that in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seems like people grasp on to like the tiniest detail that life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes the author was just like, man, I'm just gonna throw that in there and then they grasp onto it and that becomes their favorite part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I could see that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you cut out a scene in any of your books that you secretly loved but just didn't fit?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, as I've said numerous times, I think in, I'm a bad writer, like I'm bad at writing, I'm bad at getting things done, like in terms of the actual writing process, I suck like very, very aware of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like really precious with anything I do write down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if it's written down, I'm going to try my damnedest to use it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So even if I can't use a scene, I will like repurpose anything that I like right from any from that scene or find romantic from that scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I I do try to re use everything because writing words down is really hard for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you like started in COVID and it's, I mean, I feel like COVID was so long ago, but it's only been like four or five years, do you feel like the way you're written and like how you go about it has changed even since you just started writing in COVID?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like do you think it's changed a lot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, it's also like, might my kids, they're six now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, they're in school full time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can kind of plan my days around, you know, trying to write on a schedule was before it was kind of like grasping time here in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of like nights at Starbucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I would say, like, my process is just changed by proxy of like life changing and yet COVID was so quiet and insular and like in time and then life gets busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but no, I equally badly suck at writing drafts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was on so I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, I feel like if I was to write, I would want to write with somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I feel like to me that that might be easier for my brain because then it wouldn't just be like all the pressures on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sam the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I could do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm such a like a rigid person when it comes to I don't know I feel like I'm I would definitely want to pair up with somebody Um, okay What I see it would
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[SPEAKER_01]: you can, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you tell us which boy of three B is next or is that classified information?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have not, we have not confirmed that yet, but I will tell you it's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I have a guess as to who it is, but we'll keep that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll keep it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there anything else coming?
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[SPEAKER_02]: other than three be the three be boys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you working on anything else?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there will be another, hopefully, another cyclones, but could some point not this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, most likely next Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have another potential project on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just started working on that, yeah, I haven't spoken about publicly yet, so hopefully some familiar stuff in some changes, but both, yeah, both exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you ever write anything out of the romance genre, or are you just going to stick to just romance?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I imagine anything I ever write will have romance in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so whether or not I pair that with another genre, maybe, um, I would never write something like straight, um, something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it would have to be romanticism, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like reading outside of romance and to write romance?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I read mostly romance, but I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoy thrillers, especially like if I'm in the right mood for the myographies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I will read some stuff outside of romance, but yeah, I prefer mainly romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are some of your favorite authors to read?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Lin Painter's banter, she's so immaculate, and she's really, really good at chemistry, and like those like cringy funny situations that make you die a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I mentioned earlier, like Sarah Adams, big inspiration for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Abby Hemenez, I love she's just so smart and witty and just
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[SPEAKER_00]: such a cool human being.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, uh, oh, Elkenity, her hockey series is like my go to like binge reread.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, Dad, or yes, Mackenzie's obsessed with Gary Graham.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like he's up there for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, off campus series is so, yeah, I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's like my ultimate comfort read stuff
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[SPEAKER_01]: get rid of the reading while you're writing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get like really big reading slumps in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will have like some points where I'm kind of voraciously reading and some points where like I just can't read at all for weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean one of those at the moment, I don't remember the last time I wrote red a book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been probably at least a couple of months, so I'm not sure
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, definitely mood readers over here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, well, Julia Olivia and Rachel Schneider both recommended Ice Planet Barbarians to get me out of a reading slum.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy book though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, yeah, it's pretty wild.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a wavy bread.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I read some of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have not finished it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they both recommended it to me to get out of a reading slump, and I mean, it worked, but it was wild.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was wild, and I have seen so many people talking about that book recently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's not even funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to keep the aliens for later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be, that'll be some time saved, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, another question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see you and Leah working on anything together in the future outside of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not at this point just because we both have other plans and this was such a natural way to like kind of pull back to a world each of us created, yeah, bringing those second generation characters in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have no immediate plans or any plans for the future right now, but I mean, I never say never own things, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited for the next time today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm obsessed with the boys from 3B.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was such a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so beautiful and I can't wait to share it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, thank you so much for taking the time to come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a question which for having me, and if you have not read the boys of 3B at or, you know, any of Katie Bailey's other books, make sure you go check them out because they're all amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we'll catch you guys next time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye guys.