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Episode 258 "JEEZY" · The Baller Alert Show

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Speaker 1: Word with me here, you know, BT, it's so low
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Speaker 1: shout at oct no real call it what we see
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Speaker 1: whole game?
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Speaker 2: Wait to batle b something.
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Speaker 3: Oh you can't stand on their own sle feet.
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Speaker 2: I already know you can't bother with me because it
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Speaker 2: up with the squad of me.
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Speaker 4: They get anoder.
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Speaker 2: They called me.
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Speaker 4: He love by lovel he Love Paul Alert.
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Speaker 5: Welcome to the ball Us Show.
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Speaker 5: I go by the name of Fridy Simmons.
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Speaker 2: I go by the name you know BT.
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Speaker 5: See T with that living legend in the building. Yes,
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Speaker 5: Jesus G. You have to snap with us, sir, Okay,
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Speaker 5: snap it up. How you doing, man?
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Speaker 3: Man, I ain't never had a bad day in my life.
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Speaker 3: I love what you said, my man. You told me
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Speaker 3: I'm on the island twenty four seven, Sir.
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Speaker 5: We appreciate you pulling up on this, sir, and I
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Speaker 5: had to do it.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 3: We've been talking about this for a minute, so you
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Speaker 3: know you my guy, So this this is special. This
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Speaker 3: you listen to the audiobook, it'll be in my voice.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's been a little weird you in all
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Speaker 5: these pages. Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: How long did it take you read all over?
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Speaker 5: About two three days? I think I'm sorry about the week.
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Speaker 2: I was about to say, yeah, but.
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Speaker 3: I was bouncing around, so I only had a sometain
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Speaker 3: amount of time.
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Speaker 5: But it was cool though.
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Speaker 3: It was the craziest thing about reading it though, Man,
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Speaker 3: it was very therapeutic because a lot of you know,
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Speaker 3: because when you're reading your book to yourself, you're reading
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Speaker 3: it to yourself. When you actually have to read it
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Speaker 3: for people to listen, you have to go through the
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Speaker 3: emotions of what you're reading. If it's an intense moment,
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Speaker 3: your voice got to go up and all that. But
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Speaker 3: it was very therapeutic because it was like a lot
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Speaker 3: of that stuff. I didn't realize that I had went
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Speaker 3: through it, you know what I'm saying and got through it.
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Speaker 3: You know, it was when you thought it was over,
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Speaker 3: but you somehow way you figured it out. But a
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Speaker 3: lot of that was things that I had put in
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Speaker 3: the back of my mind and you know, just kind
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Speaker 3: of put it on the shelf. And then when you
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Speaker 3: now you got to come back around and face it,
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Speaker 3: you kind of feel the same trauma that you did
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Speaker 3: when you was going through it.
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Speaker 5: You know, the anxiety, It is a little it's a
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Speaker 5: little weird.
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Speaker 4: So can you share one of those moments.
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Speaker 3: Well, lose my voice when I when I I didn't
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Speaker 3: know how to perform because I just you know, I
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Speaker 3: kind of taught myself how to do this on my own,
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Speaker 3: so I was yelling a whole lot, right. It's basically
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Speaker 3: I was doing like you know, small clubs where you
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Speaker 3: have to perform on the speakers because there's no stage,
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Speaker 3: so they don't really have a sound system. So I'm
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Speaker 3: wrapping over my vocals and I'm screaming, I'm yelling. And
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Speaker 3: I had this show in a super Bowl I think
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Speaker 3: it was like three or four something like that, and
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Speaker 3: it was in Jacksonville, and I just remember just yelling
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Speaker 3: and I just felt burnings and when I got back
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Speaker 3: in the car, I couldn't talk, so I didn't want
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Speaker 3: nobody to know I couldn't talk because I was freaking out,
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Speaker 3: you feel me. So I kind of went through that process,
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Speaker 3: and I figured out after I went and saw a
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Speaker 3: doctor that I told my vocal course because I had
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Speaker 3: polyps on them. So imagine trappidize out. I'm semi working
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Speaker 3: on thub motivation. I'm about ten fifteen songs in and
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Speaker 3: I got to get a throat surgery, and I don't know.
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Speaker 3: They don't know if I'm gonna either sound the same
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Speaker 3: or either be able to talk. So your one foot
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Speaker 3: in the street, you one foot out. You've got this
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Speaker 3: opportunity to become a success because you see the momentum
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Speaker 3: and you don't know if it's gonna work out. And then,
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Speaker 3: mind you, I didn't have insurance, so I had to
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Speaker 3: pay for my surgery with a brown paper bag. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: so that was embarrassing.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: Did you have to change up your ways in which
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Speaker 4: you took care of your voice after that?
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Speaker 5: Yes?
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Speaker 3: So, first of all, I got all the homies living
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Speaker 3: in my house, Alpharetta and the mansion, right, and the mansion,
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Speaker 3: the mansion and the crazy thing was like a shout
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Speaker 3: out to Auntie Jan Jan does all the vocal culture
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Speaker 3: for like Justin Bieve and all those people. So I
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Speaker 3: had to go see her after I got my surgery,
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Speaker 3: and she had me do all these and all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: So I had to do this every day, right, and
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Speaker 3: she gave me like a CD with the different exercise
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Speaker 3: I had to do. So I would be in my
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Speaker 3: bathroom at the crib, you know, singing, you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, the homies walking by, laughing, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean. It was funny, but I you know, I
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Speaker 3: was like waiting, embarrassed and h One time I was
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Speaker 3: there and I was in the actual her office and
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Speaker 3: we was doing the singing and the ups got walked in, right,
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Speaker 3: so we got a package and then I'm singing and
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Speaker 3: he turned around and he looked at me, and I
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Speaker 3: look at him. He dropped the package. You got gez
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Speaker 3: in there singing? He like, damn, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I went through that. It was it was.
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Speaker 1: I always think it should be a case study about you.
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Speaker 1: I think you're the main person that came from the
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Speaker 1: environment you came from and you made it right. I
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Speaker 1: don't think the percentages are that high, right for what
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Speaker 1: you had to deal with and overcome. How does that
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Speaker 1: make you feel sometimes when you sit and think about that.
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: I think about it more now than I did then,
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Speaker 3: because you know, I'm a strong believer in faith and
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Speaker 3: a strong believer in God. But I really feel well,
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Speaker 3: I felt like it then, but I know now that
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Speaker 3: this was my purpose. This is why I was put
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Speaker 3: on this earth, you know, to lead by example and
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Speaker 3: to do what I do. Because I was I had
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Speaker 3: been through so much stuff and I just didn't understand
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Speaker 3: how I kept getting through it right because it wasn't me.
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Speaker 5: I'm not that smart, Like I'm not a genius in nothing.
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Speaker 3: But it's like I would just always figure it out.
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Speaker 3: But it would be always when I took my time
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Speaker 3: thought about it. My grandmother raised me to be, you know,
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Speaker 3: believe in God like pray when you get in these situations,
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Speaker 3: and I did that, you know what I mean, in
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Speaker 3: some type of way, it always worked out, and I'm
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Speaker 3: just like, you know what, this is my purpose.
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Speaker 5: I got to really take this serious.
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Speaker 3: So that's why you saw around recession, I started to
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Speaker 3: really start to hone in and focus on who I
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Speaker 3: was becoming, because before that, I was going through a
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Speaker 3: lot of survivor's remorse, you know what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 3: it just kind of felt like I want to take
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Speaker 3: care everybody. I want everybody to blow up. I want
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Speaker 3: everybody to be great. And it's just like, you know,
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Speaker 3: you got to walk that path alone sometimes, right, And
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Speaker 3: that's something I had to come to grips with it.
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Speaker 3: So that means anything that you endure, you know, you
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Speaker 3: got to deal with it, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 3: no matter how much the pain how much, and people
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Speaker 3: are scared to go through the pain, and sometimes the
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Speaker 3: pain is what builds the character, right. And I don't
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Speaker 3: regret anything that I went through. I just know that
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Speaker 3: there's a wealth of wisdom that I have just naturally
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Speaker 3: because I've been through so many things that were really
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Speaker 3: like dire and life threatening and you know, and you know,
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Speaker 3: it's like a video game. If you lose, you don't
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Speaker 3: get three lives, You only get one, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean.
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Speaker 5: So I think I played the game pretty well.
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Speaker 6: I wanted to bring up you talking about your homies,
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Speaker 6: was living in your mansion and all this and how
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Speaker 6: you wanted to help everybody. When did you know it
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Speaker 6: was time to kick the homies out the mansion?
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Speaker 5: I didn't.
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Speaker 3: I got locked up on tour when I was on
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Speaker 3: tour Whiz Khalifa, and we was doing like thirty thousand
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Speaker 3: people a night, and I only took like the right people.
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Speaker 3: I took two bus drivers, my camera guy, uh, one
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Speaker 3: of the homies. It was security or to the homies,
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Speaker 3: and security, my role manager, and all these people there
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Speaker 3: I felt like were right for what I was doing
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Speaker 3: because I didn't want to go out there and get
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Speaker 3: any trouble. Mind you, I've been on plenty of tours
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Speaker 3: and things have happened, you know what I'm saying. So
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Speaker 3: this was the one time I wanted to do it
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Speaker 3: right and something happened in Oakland, and they pretty much
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Speaker 3: blamed me. I'm the only person on the tour that's
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Speaker 3: capable of this, so they say, And ten of us
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Speaker 3: got locked up. They locked my whole bus up, and
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Speaker 3: it was ten million dollars in bill. I had to
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Speaker 3: sit in jail so I can get everybody out.
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Speaker 5: You got everybody out, yeah, I had to, And I
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Speaker 5: didn't get dollars.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a million dollars a piece for Bell, so
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Speaker 3: ten million dollars and I had to sit there and
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Speaker 3: talk and get everybody out because in my mind, you
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Speaker 3: when they you could have got yourself out. No, they
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Speaker 3: came to get me the first day, but you stayed.
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Speaker 5: I stayed.
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Speaker 3: First unselfish thing I ever did. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 3: First un selfish thing. And we'll talk about that, Lord
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Speaker 3: Lawyer in a minute, because I got me in a
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Speaker 3: lot of trouble, But first unseelfish thing I did. And
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Speaker 3: what I will say is the people that I thought
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Speaker 3: that was in place that was gonna make sure my
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Speaker 3: family was straight round. This was going on just on
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Speaker 3: some homeboy, I got you to me called you know
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Speaker 3: your people if they need anything, you know your son.
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Speaker 3: I didn't get that. So when I got out, I
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Speaker 3: was I was mad. You feel what I'm saying. I
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Speaker 3: was just like, I can't do it no more. But
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Speaker 3: I gotta just I got I gotta do what I do,
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Speaker 3: like I can't depend on people to do. And I
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Speaker 3: just was talking about this and the joint with the homies,
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Speaker 3: like expectations as a motherfucker, and I can't put my
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Speaker 3: expectations on somebody else. I know what I would do
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Speaker 3: in a situation like that, So I can't even be mad.
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Speaker 5: I just got to move on. So I didn't make
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Speaker 5: a decision.
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Speaker 3: Life happened, and it made me make that decision because
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Speaker 3: now I don't have a choice.
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Speaker 5: Right because now my careers wobbly.
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Speaker 3: You know, my finances is getting tricky because now I
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Speaker 3: got to spend all this money get these people out
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Speaker 3: of jail. No mind, they still got to go back
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Speaker 3: and forth to LA to go to court. I got
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Speaker 3: to get everybody.
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Speaker 5: Lawyers, you know what I'm saying, because it's on my wife.
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Speaker 3: So and then a to mention all the millions of
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Speaker 3: dollars that I lost, you know, for my endorsements and
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Speaker 3: my endorsements and deals that I had and my job
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Speaker 3: at Atlantic Records, all that went out the window. But
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Speaker 3: I'm not mad because why I was when I got out.
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Speaker 3: If you there was a time, if you saw me,
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Speaker 3: you know, I was like, you know, I was mean
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Speaker 3: mugging everything. I was gang banging the records. You know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, I just I was.
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Speaker 4: Just got into your people and you thought they had your.
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Speaker 3: Well, I just had a lot of resentment because I
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Speaker 3: had expectations, and that's not their fault. You can you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, I can't expect that, and I
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Speaker 3: did that, But what it did was show me. And
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Speaker 3: I remember getting down telling my business part. I said, Man,
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Speaker 3: I'll never be a part of nothing else in this
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Speaker 3: world if I don't have ownership, because they took it all,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: And thank god, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: That I was able to still get out of here
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Speaker 3: and do what I do, but everything that I was
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Speaker 3: banking on for my you know, for my exit plan,
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Speaker 3: they took it right. So now I'm just like, I
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Speaker 3: ain't doing nothing else. I ain't put my name on
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Speaker 3: anything unless I got ownership. And that just started that mentality.
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Speaker 3: And then when I started to move like that, people
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Speaker 3: just started stopped coming around naturally, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: They kind of like, I don't.
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Speaker 4: Really you know, you wasn't aligning with the energy an
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Speaker 4: right right, right, and.
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Speaker 3: It kind of just felt like, you know, I don't
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Speaker 3: really want to be around that. And after a while
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Speaker 3: it was just me, did.
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Speaker 4: You take on any mentors in that time?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I took on a lot of mentors because I started
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Speaker 3: to understand that I had to go outside of my
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Speaker 3: comfort zone to find the answers that I need, and
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Speaker 3: that's that's one of my gifts. Though I'll do that
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Speaker 3: all day and I don't know what it is. In
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Speaker 3: my mind, I can like say, if it's I could
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Speaker 3: be in a situation and I just go through my phone,
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Speaker 3: I go straight to that person, I'm go and call them,
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Speaker 3: but I see how I talk to you. And what
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Speaker 3: it did was it started to open me up to
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Speaker 3: see other people's perspective because.
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Speaker 5: They're not biased.
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Speaker 3: They're not like in it where they're taking a side
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Speaker 3: or they feel a certain way. They're just like, well,
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Speaker 3: you know if it was me, I would you know,
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Speaker 3: so on and so forth. I'm not gonna just take
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Speaker 3: their information to run with it, but there's bits and
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Speaker 3: pieces in it. I could be like, yeah, you know
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Speaker 3: what that applies to me? And then that's just how
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Speaker 3: it started moving. And the biggest thing though, I had
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Speaker 3: to really give myself permission to evault. That's where it
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Speaker 3: changed that because I like, the whole time I was fighting,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I was like, I ain't
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Speaker 3: never changed it this way, And it's like life happened.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I need to figure this out. And
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Speaker 3: then I had to say, yo, look man, you you've
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Speaker 3: done enough. You kept it a solid you can keep it,
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Speaker 3: but you gotta start thinking about the second half of
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Speaker 3: your life.
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Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? You know?
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Speaker 3: And if you look at a lot of these guys
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Speaker 3: now that are that are getting you know, like being
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Speaker 3: a rappers, like the most ain't a job in the world,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So you know, and that's
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Speaker 3: why I was so passionate about the bank Rove Freshes
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Speaker 3: and Adobees and all, because getting there is like five percent.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna be famous, you're gonna be all right, you're
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Speaker 3: gonna be financially set up. But staying alive and staying
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Speaker 3: out of prison, it's like the other ninety five percent
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Speaker 3: you gotta navigate because all of that come with it, right,
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Speaker 3: And I think that's the hardest part to navigate, you know,
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Speaker 3: because we're all talented to an extent, but you still
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Speaker 3: got to navigate it, you know what I'm saying, Because
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Speaker 3: if you get out here and you're moving around the world,
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Speaker 3: you're not example, like look at Nipsey Awso you know,
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and just like.
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Speaker 5: You know, it was a good dude.
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Speaker 3: You can't foresee that happening, especially in an environment with
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Speaker 3: his own people, with our own people.
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Speaker 5: All the environment that those things happen. Right. So there's
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Speaker 5: that I wanted to ask you.
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Speaker 1: Is this around the time when you started thinking branding wise,
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Speaker 1: because that's when I started.
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Speaker 5: Seeing the alcohol right. Well, what it was was shout
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Speaker 5: out the tip.
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Speaker 3: He called me one day when I did the snowman right,
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Speaker 3: he said, man, that is genius. I didn't know what
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Speaker 3: the hell he was talking about. He said, you got
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Speaker 3: a brand. I said, what, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So in my mind I'm thinking it's like a street thing.
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Speaker 3: But then I started to be like oh, and then
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Speaker 3: I started to see the Snowman everywhere. I got for
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Speaker 3: wearing the too. But that just opened my eyes to
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Speaker 3: what branding was right. And then with the uh with
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Speaker 3: the alcohol and things was I was just like, Yo,
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Speaker 3: if I'm gonna be out here and I'm gonna be
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Speaker 3: talking about these things, I can't drink them for free, right,
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Speaker 3: and then you can't pay me to drink them, because
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Speaker 3: if I got my own bread, I don't need you
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Speaker 3: to pay me to do what I want to do. Now,
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Speaker 3: mind you, if you want to get into business with me,
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Speaker 3: and not just because I want the money, I gotta
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Speaker 3: like the I gotta like the brand or the product.
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Speaker 3: If I believe it like you believe it, then I'm down.
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Speaker 3: But it has to be equity in that. And that
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Speaker 3: came from being locked up the last time in LA
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Speaker 3: and them taking everything right because now it's time to
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Speaker 3: start moving because I had belvedere dials before, like they
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Speaker 3: gave me money to promote bever deal. But it's like
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Speaker 3: it didn't make sense, you know what I'm saying, because
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Speaker 3: my likeness is forever for me. So if I build
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Speaker 3: your brand and I walk away, you go get somebody else.
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Speaker 3: You just took my whole base and got them associated
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Speaker 3: with your brand and then I walk away with nothing.
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Speaker 3: Like we were more than that, So you got to
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Speaker 3: give us something because we're putting all into this, Like
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Speaker 3: I'm going into the clubs in the middle, I'm in
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Speaker 3: fuck head, bankhead wherever, and I'm promoting this brand for
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Speaker 3: you. You can't go there and get the type of respect
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Speaker 3: them to get, So you gotta pay for that, you know.
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Speaker 3: And I would suggest anybody, you know, not take these
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Speaker 3: capsule deals or these you know this upfront money.
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Speaker 5: It's just like nah.
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Speaker 3: I when I did Ave, I was like, yo, listen,
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Speaker 3: I want to do the deal because I loved the tequila.
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Speaker 3: And he ended up being one of my mentors to
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Speaker 3: shout out to kend Austin.
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Speaker 5: He went on to do.
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Speaker 3: Proper thirteen with Connor McGregor, a terrimony now with the Rock.
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Speaker 3: This was my mentor and I told him, I said,
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Speaker 3: you know, I got to have some equity. I gotta have,
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Speaker 3: you know, got to have some skin in the game.
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Speaker 4: And can you break down equity for like the you know,
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Speaker 4: the young people who really don't understand what that means.
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Speaker 3: Right, So this is my water brand, rate of Divines
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Speaker 3: feud right, and I love it great, by the way,
15:12
Speaker 3: but I couldn't walk around and drink this water every
15:15
Speaker 3: day just to get some upfront money. Equity is everything
15:18
Speaker 3: that you build in business, that you scale. There's there's
15:23
Speaker 3: a goal of selling it and getting out of it.
15:25
Speaker 3: When you sell this, I need my proper chunk like
15:29
Speaker 3: you're getting your proper chunk. So I need a percentage
15:32
Speaker 3: of what you guys are going to sell this for
15:34
Speaker 3: even if it's points. So that means basically, like where
15:38
Speaker 3: somebody would give you one hundred and fifty thousand dollars too, yeah,
15:43
Speaker 3: to drink this and talk about and post it on
15:45
Speaker 3: your Instagram. On the back end, you got the potential
15:48
Speaker 3: to walk away with one hundred and fifty million. I'm
15:51
Speaker 3: saying it's a different game, right, but you got to
15:53
Speaker 3: have more skin in the game because you're not taking
15:55
Speaker 3: any money. You're saying, I'm gonna bet on myself and
15:57
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wait until you sell this to capitalize, right,
16:01
Speaker 3: And that's the difference, you know, And that's what it's
16:03
Speaker 3: the same thing with no Yeah, yeah, same thing with
16:05
Speaker 3: shout out to Nod Nod as my new spirit. We
16:08
Speaker 3: got Coniac vodka and gen and I mean, you know,
16:13
Speaker 3: I think about it every day. You know, your boy
16:15
Speaker 3: got business partners in Corneac friends That ain't bad, baby,
16:18
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, ain't bad for a guy
16:20
Speaker 3: right around the corner.
16:21
Speaker 5: You feel me.
16:22
Speaker 1: I always wanted to ask you this question, what's your
16:25
Speaker 1: favorite album?
16:26
Speaker 5: Mind? Yeah? The Recession?
16:28
Speaker 3: Okay, because the Recession of my favorite album, because that
16:33
Speaker 3: was the time the things started to shift for me.
16:35
Speaker 3: And I started to like rip because I'm gonna keep
16:38
Speaker 3: it the buck mentally you mentally for sure, because I'm
16:41
Speaker 3: gonna tell you from streets is watching. Till before I
16:46
Speaker 3: recorded the Recession, I was going through, like a lot
16:49
Speaker 3: of survivors remorse because I'm on my mission, I'm on
16:52
Speaker 3: my path, but I'm trying to figure out everything for
16:54
Speaker 3: everybody around me and how can I incorporate them and
16:57
Speaker 3: what I'm what I'm doing right, And that caused a
17:00
Speaker 3: lot of more pressure on top of what I was doing.
17:03
Speaker 3: So I wasn't happy, you know what I'm saying. I
17:05
Speaker 3: was stressed because you know, it's all the weight on me.
17:08
Speaker 3: So I'm drinking, smoking every day. I'm talking about and
17:10
Speaker 3: I ain't just saying like drinking like DC drinking. I'm
17:13
Speaker 3: talking about like jeezy drinking, young jeezy drinking like I'm
17:16
Speaker 3: drinking like when you see me out, I'm lit, you
17:18
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I'm just going through those
17:20
Speaker 3: motions getting up, you know, five six o'clock in the evening,
17:23
Speaker 3: getting ready to go hang out, to.
17:24
Speaker 5: Go back to the club. You know what I'm saying.
17:26
Speaker 3: That was just my life and I was just going
17:28
Speaker 3: through a lot of survivors remore. So it was around
17:32
Speaker 3: the time something happened around the recession, and I just
17:35
Speaker 3: woke up because a lot of the the whole time,
17:37
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to prison, right, So I
17:39
Speaker 3: was kind of really banking on that, like I just
17:41
Speaker 3: knew not been locked up, yeah, because everybody around me
17:43
Speaker 3: was getting indicted. Oh like, now how could I not?
17:46
Speaker 3: You know people I'm standing right next to. So it's
17:48
Speaker 3: just like it's coming. So a lot of what you
17:50
Speaker 3: heard in the beginning was me putting everything into the
17:52
Speaker 3: music because at some point I just wanted to be heard,
17:55
Speaker 3: so even if I'm going to music could be there, right.
17:57
Speaker 3: And then I woke up and right before before I
18:00
Speaker 3: started recording a recession, I said, I'm not in jail.
18:03
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I got paper, you know
18:05
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm popping. I still can do this.
18:08
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go be a star. And that's when I
18:10
Speaker 3: started to come into my own and start to like
18:13
Speaker 3: take care of myself.
18:14
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even drinking water, man, I would go, like
18:16
Speaker 5: forever what I drink? I just just Chris Chris Stout
18:19
Speaker 5: and wilfire House. That was it. You know what I'm saying.
18:21
Speaker 3: And I started taking care of myself and I started
18:23
Speaker 3: like dropping weight because I was like two sixty.
18:24
Speaker 5: I got down to like one eighty five, you know
18:27
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
18:27
Speaker 3: I did my first show on the Recession tour in
18:29
Speaker 3: Boston and I walk on stage and by my third song,
18:33
Speaker 3: I just saw him throwing stuff on the stage.
18:35
Speaker 5: I kept trying to figure out what it was. I'm
18:36
Speaker 5: looking at my security, like what's up. It was brawls.
18:38
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is it. I'm like, this is it.
18:44
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I'm never going back by
18:46
Speaker 5: the way, you know what I'm saying.
18:47
Speaker 3: And from there, I started eating clean, taking care of myself,
18:50
Speaker 3: and the crazy I just was like reading more.
18:52
Speaker 5: I was just I was talking about a lot in
18:53
Speaker 5: the book.
18:54
Speaker 3: I was just like reading more, asking questions, going outside
18:57
Speaker 3: my comfort zone, hanging with different people, and I'm just like, Okay,
18:59
Speaker 3: this is a another life out there.
19:01
Speaker 5: I got to figure it out.
19:02
Speaker 3: And they just gave me this sense of like just
19:06
Speaker 3: knowing that there was a future in what I was
19:08
Speaker 3: doing right and I could do other things and I
19:10
Speaker 3: ain't have to just be in the club or on
19:13
Speaker 3: the block or you know, sitting in the house with
19:16
Speaker 3: you know, a hundred people and we all ain't on
19:18
Speaker 3: the same page. And I'm not happy with that because
19:21
Speaker 3: I'd rather be on the island somewhere. You can't take
19:23
Speaker 3: one hundred people on the island. It's not gonna work,
19:25
Speaker 3: and even if you try, it's not gonna be the
19:26
Speaker 3: same experience, right, So I just got to a point
19:29
Speaker 3: I was just like, man, I just gotta just you know,
19:31
Speaker 3: go live and just do and not be afraid, you know,
19:34
Speaker 3: because it was weird. You know, you go to the gym,
19:35
Speaker 3: you see Gez in the gym, somebody yelling at you
19:38
Speaker 3: five more.
19:38
Speaker 5: You're like, nobody yelling at me. I don't take orders. Well,
19:44
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
19:46
Speaker 3: So it was a lot of that, but I was
19:47
Speaker 3: just like, nah, I got a training, I got this now,
19:49
Speaker 3: and I got that and just started to building mentors
19:52
Speaker 3: and then also just having an outlet to talk about
19:55
Speaker 3: some of the frustrations I was going through because I
19:57
Speaker 3: felt like nobody really understood right, And jay Z shout
20:01
Speaker 3: out to Jay like he was he was very open
20:05
Speaker 3: minded to like having conversations with me about things, right,
20:09
Speaker 3: And that's when me and him really locked in as
20:11
Speaker 3: I started to see that he really understood what I
20:13
Speaker 3: was going through because he called me one day he
20:15
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, you need to talk. I was like,
20:17
Speaker 3: hey man, yeah, the blue because you know, when when
20:20
Speaker 3: the diamonds started coming, like the label stoped picking up
20:22
Speaker 3: the phone.
20:23
Speaker 5: He was the president.
20:24
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you know what I'm saying.
20:25
Speaker 3: So it was just like, yeah, Label stopped picking up
20:29
Speaker 3: the phone because it was like it was hot.
20:30
Speaker 2: It was like he's done. Like did the Label feel
20:33
Speaker 2: like you were done?
20:33
Speaker 7: Yeah?
20:34
Speaker 5: I think they felt like I was done.
20:35
Speaker 3: And I also felt like they felt like they didn't
20:37
Speaker 3: know what extent of things I had going on, so
20:40
Speaker 3: they didn't want none of that because you know, you
20:42
Speaker 3: got to think about the murder inks and all that.
20:44
Speaker 3: When all these things happened, you know what I'm saying,
20:46
Speaker 3: it could get serious, you know what I'm saying. I
20:48
Speaker 3: kind of think they just pushed back. But he was
20:49
Speaker 3: the first one to get me a call like you
20:50
Speaker 3: need to talk. Went to his office in New York
20:53
Speaker 3: and we sat down and we just really just was
20:55
Speaker 3: just like talking, you know what I'm saying. That was
20:57
Speaker 3: the first time I was like open to tell somebody like, Yo,
21:00
Speaker 3: I'm paranoid as hell, Like I don't even know.
21:02
Speaker 5: I'm not sleeping, I'm drinking.
21:04
Speaker 3: I can't trust no, you know, I can't trust nobody,
21:07
Speaker 3: you know, and that and and you know, and when
21:09
Speaker 3: people he say that, I'm not saying blaming another person.
21:12
Speaker 3: I'm saying I can't because I know what I got
21:14
Speaker 3: going on. So I'm paranoid, right, and it might have
21:17
Speaker 3: something to do more so with me than it has
21:19
Speaker 3: to do with them, right, because I know what's going on.
21:21
Speaker 5: They don't know what's going on. They just think me rapping.
21:24
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, what's.
21:25
Speaker 2: Some of the advice that jay Z was giving you
21:27
Speaker 2: at that period of time.
21:28
Speaker 3: Now, you were just telling me, like, you know, things happen,
21:30
Speaker 3: and that you know things that things that you know
21:35
Speaker 3: just to be mindful of, right, and then how to
21:39
Speaker 3: start because I was more so trying to figure out
21:41
Speaker 3: how to start transitioning in my life. And I was
21:43
Speaker 3: I was really you know, under the impressing if I
21:46
Speaker 3: changed any I was gonna lose everything I had. You
21:50
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, I'm saying as far as like
21:51
Speaker 3: the people that was rhying with me, the people love.
21:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, they like they love what I was doing.
21:55
Speaker 3: They're just like, if I'm not that, then they're not
21:58
Speaker 3: gonna support anything I do. And he's like, nah, it's
22:01
Speaker 3: not like that. He'll grow with you if.
22:03
Speaker 5: You allow him to. You know.
22:04
Speaker 3: I was just like you sure, He's like yeah, And
22:07
Speaker 3: we just had those real conversations like that. But coming
22:09
Speaker 3: from him knowing that he's been in a situation where
22:12
Speaker 3: he had to grow, I trusted that.
22:14
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
22:15
Speaker 3: I felt like, Okay, cool, this is something, this is
22:17
Speaker 3: something I might have to consider. And it took a
22:19
Speaker 3: lot of thinking through it, and it wasn't easy at
22:24
Speaker 3: first though, you know what I'm saying, Because who you
22:26
Speaker 3: are is who you are until you decide to be
22:28
Speaker 3: somebody else.
22:29
Speaker 5: So I was relapsing a lot, That's what I'm saying.
22:31
Speaker 6: You were scared to get out the like get out
22:33
Speaker 6: the streets and be like a full time entertainer and
22:35
Speaker 6: be like, yo, I'm gonna be a full time rap right.
22:37
Speaker 5: Well I didn't. You know.
22:38
Speaker 3: The thing was, I had start getting some money from rap,
22:42
Speaker 3: but I had like, you know, I had real bills, bro,
22:44
Speaker 3: Like I had real you know, I had a situation
22:47
Speaker 3: like I was straight, you know what I'm saying, As
22:49
Speaker 3: long as you know nothing went wrong, I was good.
22:52
Speaker 3: I was I was taking care of my family like
22:54
Speaker 3: I had. My life was set up, you know what
22:56
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So the rap just added on to that.
22:59
Speaker 3: But I had to leave that and that was like
23:03
Speaker 3: the biggest thing because it's almost.
23:04
Speaker 4: Like you were the real life ghost, right, But.
23:10
Speaker 3: This is this is my crutch though, Like I'm good
23:12
Speaker 3: over and if I don't got that, like what I'm like,
23:15
Speaker 3: you know, this is rap cool, but like what if
23:16
Speaker 3: it's slow up? What if I don't make no move?
23:19
Speaker 3: You know, this is between you know, thug motivation and
23:21
Speaker 3: all that. So it's like, you know what they say,
23:23
Speaker 3: you make one album, a lot of people can't come
23:24
Speaker 3: back and make another album.
23:26
Speaker 4: Es.
23:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got your whole life to make your first
23:29
Speaker 3: album and it was so successful.
23:31
Speaker 5: Ship I'm thinking, like, I'm gonna do this again.
23:33
Speaker 4: So when the recession drops, you know, what was your
23:36
Speaker 4: how how what was your reaction of your fans? Did
23:39
Speaker 4: they did they do like jay Z said and go
23:41
Speaker 4: with you? Initially? How was that?
23:43
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, I'll never forget it. I was
23:45
Speaker 3: I was, I went to spot Divus one. I think
23:48
Speaker 3: the ALM dropped on a Friday night. I went up
23:50
Speaker 3: there like Saturday, and I pulled up, you know, and
23:53
Speaker 3: ballet hopped out, and before I can get out the
23:56
Speaker 3: cars group of.
23:56
Speaker 5: Guys standing right there.
23:57
Speaker 3: They're like, yo, jeezy knowing you just dropping me. Oh,
24:01
Speaker 3: I'm just looking. I'm like, you know what I'm saying,
24:04
Speaker 3: And my mom like, oh, you know what I mean.
24:06
Speaker 3: And it just started. It started to be in there
24:08
Speaker 3: every where I went. I'm just like, oh, like okay.
24:11
Speaker 3: And that was like the first wave of it, right,
24:14
Speaker 3: and then the second rave was of course to put
24:16
Speaker 3: on took off of Kanye West. But then the second
24:19
Speaker 3: wave was because you know, I had recorded my president
24:21
Speaker 3: as black like four months before he was, before he
24:24
Speaker 3: actually won, and then he won, right, so now you're
24:28
Speaker 3: a prophet, you know what I'm saying.
24:30
Speaker 5: So now you're going through.
24:31
Speaker 3: That because you want to campaign. I remember that, Yeah,
24:33
Speaker 3: you shout out to Barack Obama, my guy. But you know,
24:39
Speaker 3: it went from that to so imagine you're getting to
24:41
Speaker 3: love in the street.
24:42
Speaker 5: Right.
24:42
Speaker 3: And I had to go read a lot of books,
24:44
Speaker 3: a lot of articles, you know, just to see what
24:46
Speaker 3: was going because mind you. Now, I'm getting money, but
24:49
Speaker 3: I don't even know what's going on in the world.
24:50
Speaker 3: If you ask me what day it is, I wouldn't
24:52
Speaker 3: even know the date. Yeah, I was, man, I was living, bro.
24:57
Speaker 3: I was you know what I mean, I was. I
24:58
Speaker 3: was here first. I you know how they say you
25:01
Speaker 3: just going through the motions. I was just I was
25:02
Speaker 3: just in it, bro. I was just in and waiting
25:04
Speaker 3: on the do date. Like like every morning I woke
25:07
Speaker 3: up and like, I'm still free. Well let me go live.
25:10
Speaker 4: When when you finally went legit? What was that transition
25:15
Speaker 4: that trend finally was able just to like breathe and
25:18
Speaker 4: make the money that you want within your businesses.
25:21
Speaker 3: I would say, that's that's recently, you know what I'm saying,
25:26
Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, it's it's money. Don't change anything, right,
25:35
Speaker 3: it does not, you know what I'm saying. You can give,
25:37
Speaker 3: you know, you give somebody you see on the corner
25:39
Speaker 3: of road towards He's still gonna have the same problems
25:41
Speaker 3: you got, right, it doesn't matter, you know. But what
25:44
Speaker 3: change was the quality of life? You know what I'm saying.
25:47
Speaker 3: Because I started to give real friends. You know what
25:50
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I started to get real people I love.
25:52
Speaker 3: I started to you know, align myself with other people
25:56
Speaker 3: that had their own vision in life and they was
25:58
Speaker 3: on their path. And now we can talk about these
26:00
Speaker 3: things the hookahspot just say down, just chop it up.
26:03
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, right, you feel me. But
26:06
Speaker 3: that's the fulfillment because you're starting to align yourself with
26:09
Speaker 3: other people. Then you start to build you know, your
26:11
Speaker 3: personal life, and now you know and the only want
26:13
Speaker 3: to sound you know too crazy. Now you got hobbies,
26:16
Speaker 3: you got things that you got the time off, you
26:19
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Now you got time to do
26:21
Speaker 3: the things that you want to learn how to do.
26:23
Speaker 3: And it's just a different experience because it takes your
26:26
Speaker 3: mind out of the every day hustle and bustle of
26:30
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. Because mind you like we're
26:31
Speaker 3: not you guys are doing what you love. There's no
26:35
Speaker 3: degree for this, you know, even if you have one,
26:38
Speaker 3: you still got to create the synergy.
26:40
Speaker 5: So it's like.
26:43
Speaker 3: There's no book for this, right, you just give it
26:46
Speaker 3: your all, But then you still want to be in
26:47
Speaker 3: a place that you can give it your all and
26:49
Speaker 3: still enjoy your you know what, I'm saying, you still
26:52
Speaker 3: got to have a life. You still got to have
26:54
Speaker 3: things you like. You love, your favorite food, your play,
26:56
Speaker 3: place to go, your time. You know, you might just
26:59
Speaker 3: need an hour day just for yourself, just to do
27:01
Speaker 3: whatever you like. And that's how you like, Yeah, you know,
27:04
Speaker 3: and now I can go out here and face the world.
27:05
Speaker 3: And I had to like start to learn that because
27:08
Speaker 3: I always put everybody else first, right, And the minute
27:11
Speaker 3: I started putting myself first, that's when I started really
27:14
Speaker 3: enjoying life. And I see meaning to put myself first
27:17
Speaker 3: in the sense of if you're on a plane and
27:19
Speaker 3: that's going down, you got to put your mask on
27:21
Speaker 3: before you can put somebody else's mask on.
27:23
Speaker 5: Right.
27:24
Speaker 4: So we're coming to the book. Now, you decided to
27:27
Speaker 4: put all this into the book.
27:29
Speaker 3: Why now I just feel like, like like I said,
27:32
Speaker 3: I think it's my well, I know it's my obligation,
27:34
Speaker 3: and I know it's people out there who because they
27:37
Speaker 3: don't just apply to hustlers, it's applied to anybody who's
27:40
Speaker 3: out there trying to navigate.
27:42
Speaker 5: These are the things that I learned.
27:44
Speaker 3: I want to share them with you because there was
27:46
Speaker 3: not one book that I could pick up that had
27:48
Speaker 3: me covered, and I feel like this is that book
27:50
Speaker 3: because you know I went through it. So I'm just
27:53
Speaker 3: telling you so it might apply to you and your
27:55
Speaker 3: corporate job. It might apply to you and your entrepreneurship.
27:58
Speaker 3: It might apply to you however, whatever. All these are
28:00
Speaker 3: different life experiences that you can break down and take
28:03
Speaker 3: bits and pieces out. And for me, it's almost like,
28:06
Speaker 3: you know, I'm working on my second half of my life,
28:08
Speaker 3: so why not give back and say, hey, look this
28:12
Speaker 3: is how I did it.
28:13
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
28:14
Speaker 3: And again, the reason why the book is called Adversity
28:17
Speaker 3: for Sale is because people always want to sell you success,
28:20
Speaker 3: but that ain't how they winning. They ain't winning because
28:23
Speaker 3: of this success. They just happened to stumble up on success.
28:25
Speaker 3: But they not telling you, boy, all the times they
28:27
Speaker 3: lost and what they had to do to get through that.
28:29
Speaker 3: It's almost like, yo, look at me. You know how
28:31
Speaker 3: Instagram's going. Instagram everybody winning, everybody Instagram. Ain't nobody lose it.
28:37
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Speaker 3: Alert Show, boy Jeezi, and you are now tuned in
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28:51
Speaker 1: Talk about Agency ninety nine. At what point made you
28:55
Speaker 1: create that?
28:56
Speaker 5: Why? Agency nine and nine? Why did you call it?
28:57
Speaker 3: Agency ninety nine was created because I always live by
29:01
Speaker 3: the model of, you know, giving everybody ninety nine percent,
29:04
Speaker 3: keep it one percent for yourself, you know what I'm saying.
29:06
Speaker 3: So anything that I'm invested in, I want to give
29:09
Speaker 3: it my all, but I got to keep at least
29:10
Speaker 3: one percent for myself. AGENC ninety nine was started as
29:13
Speaker 3: a management company because there's a lot of things that
29:15
Speaker 3: I went through when I was being managed that I
29:18
Speaker 3: didn't understand. So I wanted to set up a company
29:21
Speaker 3: where you got your own CPAs, your own accounts, your
29:23
Speaker 3: own press, your own this, you own that, and it's
29:26
Speaker 3: boutique style.
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Speaker 5: So we got, you know, shout out to Haiti Baby.
29:29
Speaker 3: Rory Simmons, nod Definance Fuel, So we manage brands, artists, people,
29:37
Speaker 3: whatever and what it is. We take our infrastructure shout
29:40
Speaker 3: out to Agency ninety nine. We take our infrastructure so
29:42
Speaker 3: that we can help whoever we are in line with
29:47
Speaker 3: right and it's a lot of the reasons why you
29:49
Speaker 3: see people go to Rock Nation a lot because they
29:51
Speaker 3: have an infrastructure of things that you just don't have
29:54
Speaker 3: the reach to get those resources, right, And if you
29:57
Speaker 3: go over there, you get all this and that's how
30:00
Speaker 3: and we're setting it up so if you come over here,
30:01
Speaker 3: you get all of what we got. So any bit
30:04
Speaker 3: like you might come and say, I got a business idea.
30:06
Speaker 3: We know exactly who to go talk to. You might
30:08
Speaker 3: want to say, you want to do some real estate stuff.
30:10
Speaker 3: You know exactly who to bring.
30:11
Speaker 2: Y'all don't want to stop shopped.
30:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you need a banker, we got to
30:15
Speaker 3: because all these things are through experiences. I had good bankers,
30:17
Speaker 3: bad bankers, you know, good good lawyers, bad lawyers, So
30:21
Speaker 3: we kept the.
30:22
Speaker 5: Good ones, you know what I'm saying.
30:25
Speaker 3: So it's like you might want to try him out,
30:27
Speaker 3: and it's real because I went through, you know I
30:29
Speaker 3: talked about in the book, I went through a situation
30:31
Speaker 3: where you know, you know, somebody I want to see
30:33
Speaker 3: a business with really tried to suit me for you
30:35
Speaker 3: know everything. You know what I'm saying. And if I
30:38
Speaker 3: hadn't had a good lawyer, I would have had to
30:39
Speaker 3: come off of that. You know what I'm saying, Because
30:41
Speaker 3: once you get in court, it is what it is,
30:44
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you got you got. It's a fight,
30:47
Speaker 3: right And my business partner brought me. Somebody said Yo,
30:51
Speaker 3: this is the guy and walked in there. Everything we
30:54
Speaker 3: walked down. I had to go to trial, and I
30:57
Speaker 3: remember was in trial. So everybody got get up there
30:59
Speaker 3: and say they piece you know, they telling their stories
31:01
Speaker 3: about you.
31:02
Speaker 5: Whatever.
31:02
Speaker 3: He leaned over, he said, boy, it's a bad day
31:05
Speaker 3: to be you.
31:06
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because basically it was throwing
31:08
Speaker 5: me under the bus. You tat me. He said, I
31:10
Speaker 5: don't worry about it.
31:11
Speaker 3: We got this and we won the case, and he's
31:13
Speaker 3: been a part of my team every since.
31:15
Speaker 2: Now you talked to lawyer, I'm gonna keep you.
31:17
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but anybody did that. But that's the thing.
31:20
Speaker 5: You got to really think about it. It's all built
31:21
Speaker 5: on resources, you know what I'm saying.
31:23
Speaker 3: So if you get if you if you get good
31:25
Speaker 3: it's almost like having good friends.
31:27
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
31:27
Speaker 3: You got a group of good friends, you got a
31:30
Speaker 3: very high quality like life, like you got good people
31:33
Speaker 3: around you. If you got good business people around you,
31:35
Speaker 3: it shows in your business, it shows in your moves,
31:37
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And by the way people
31:39
Speaker 3: measure success differently, Like you know what I'm saying, I'm
31:42
Speaker 3: not measuring success by a dollar amount. I am measured
31:44
Speaker 3: success by the things that I want to get done
31:46
Speaker 3: and the best people to do it. And Magic Johnson
31:48
Speaker 3: said it the best. If you want to be the best,
31:51
Speaker 3: you got to hire the best. You got to have
31:53
Speaker 3: the best you would Yeah, you feel me. And that's
31:55
Speaker 3: the thing though, because that's what I look at, because
31:59
Speaker 3: it's just like a lot of people don't even like
32:01
Speaker 3: especially this generation, they don't even probably know Magic Johnson
32:03
Speaker 3: and Shaquille O'Neill basketball players, they know that, but they
32:07
Speaker 3: know their business the business boy.
32:09
Speaker 4: Going to Starbucks and even though they're drinking from the
32:12
Speaker 4: cup of magic.
32:13
Speaker 5: Right, you feel me.
32:14
Speaker 3: But the thing is is you got to have that
32:16
Speaker 3: other side of life, you know what I'm saying. Me
32:19
Speaker 3: and Roby talk about it all the time. It's like,
32:20
Speaker 3: you got to set yourself up for the other alf.
32:22
Speaker 3: You're gonna need money forever, you're not going to box,
32:25
Speaker 3: and then you want to live. You want to live
32:28
Speaker 3: the life you want to live after you did all
32:30
Speaker 3: this work. But then you also still want to have
32:32
Speaker 3: something that's bigger than you that you're that you're applying
32:35
Speaker 3: yourself to every day, because that's a sense of purpose.
32:37
Speaker 3: Because if you don't have a sense of purpose and
32:39
Speaker 3: you just out here moving, you kind of just going
32:41
Speaker 3: through the motions like you don't know what you're doing,
32:43
Speaker 3: Like you don't even know where you're going. It's like
32:45
Speaker 3: get in the car and you know, somebody telling you
32:47
Speaker 3: to take me to California. You ain't got no GPS.
32:50
Speaker 3: You know, you got to figure it out, you know
32:52
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
32:53
Speaker 2: What's some things in a book that's really gonna shock people.
32:56
Speaker 5: I think the vulnerability.
32:58
Speaker 3: I think the times me telling you, like how I
33:01
Speaker 3: really felt about something, what was really on my heart,
33:04
Speaker 3: what was really in my mind because you know we
33:06
Speaker 3: don't we don't talk like that, you know what I'm saying,
33:08
Speaker 3: and writing it down in pages again was very therapeutic
33:10
Speaker 3: for me because I was able to express it.
33:13
Speaker 5: Was almost like journalists pages here, you know what I'm saying.
33:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was like just you know, just being open,
33:18
Speaker 3: you know, transparent, open book. Because you know you might
33:21
Speaker 3: hear a lot of my records. I'm gonna tell it,
33:23
Speaker 3: you know music, I'm gonna tell it to you the
33:25
Speaker 3: best way possible to make me sound like the hero.
33:28
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
33:29
Speaker 3: But in the back of my mind, I'm like, oh,
33:33
Speaker 3: oh my god, what we're gonna do?
33:36
Speaker 5: I was gonna say.
33:37
Speaker 1: I really love that BT highlighted you for the Hip
33:41
Speaker 1: Hop fifty.
33:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was who contact did they did they reach.
33:45
Speaker 3: Out to actually shout out to Jesse Collins and uh
33:48
Speaker 3: Latina up at Ut and.
33:51
Speaker 5: Latina depth Jams. She was like, you're doing this.
33:54
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to do it.
34:00
Speaker 5: It was a moment though.
34:01
Speaker 2: No, I loved it, don't get me more.
34:03
Speaker 5: I loved it.
34:04
Speaker 3: But you know, I just I got this thing with
34:06
Speaker 3: the war shows. Man, It's like, you know, I just
34:08
Speaker 3: I don't know why you like the war shows. It
34:10
Speaker 3: just ain't the same like going to rock Hud like
34:13
Speaker 3: a crowd for like real people.
34:16
Speaker 6: You feel like it's a bunch of peers and everybody
34:18
Speaker 6: else kind.
34:19
Speaker 3: Of like it's kind of like now that last week,
34:22
Speaker 3: ain't standing up you talking to the phone last night?
34:27
Speaker 2: You know.
34:27
Speaker 3: But when you when you're when you're when you're doing
34:31
Speaker 3: it for your your your core, you give them what
34:34
Speaker 3: they give you. Yeah, it's like we we we we
34:38
Speaker 3: battle each other. It's like it's like a thing. It's
34:40
Speaker 3: like church. You know, you go to church and you
34:41
Speaker 3: hear great sermon.
34:43
Speaker 5: He talking to me. That's what it's like when you're
34:45
Speaker 5: doing it.
34:45
Speaker 3: But I will say that was probably the best Award
34:49
Speaker 3: Show performance.
34:49
Speaker 5: I man, why that song?
34:51
Speaker 3: I love that song? Yeah, long lived Shorty Low and
34:56
Speaker 3: they know, they know, and I felt like I just
34:59
Speaker 3: wanted to spread some love there.
35:00
Speaker 4: Man.
35:02
Speaker 3: You know, Shaty is a big part of what we do.
35:04
Speaker 3: And they was doing Dolph right before me and RP
35:10
Speaker 3: to Dolph and I was just like, man, it'd be
35:12
Speaker 3: dope through the Shorty Low and plus we all know
35:15
Speaker 3: is jamming, and it just made sense. And I just
35:17
Speaker 3: knew it was gonna catch the moment because we're talking
35:19
Speaker 3: about hip hops or why not kill two birds with
35:21
Speaker 3: one stone?
35:22
Speaker 5: So my man, his legacy, some love and then you know,
35:25
Speaker 5: do what I do.
35:26
Speaker 6: Now, I know what we was talking about earlier, like
35:30
Speaker 6: how you know being a rapper's like one of the
35:32
Speaker 6: most dangerous jobs. I feel like a lot of the rappers,
35:34
Speaker 6: the new generation, don't have mentors. Now, what's some of
35:38
Speaker 6: the advice that you would give these the new generation
35:40
Speaker 6: of artists on how to protect themselves.
35:43
Speaker 3: I mean, just when it first starts all by knowing
35:46
Speaker 3: that you're in a position of leadership. So people around
35:49
Speaker 3: you gonna move how you move. So if you move
35:52
Speaker 3: a certain way, then you got to know the extensions
35:54
Speaker 3: of you were gonna move that way.
35:56
Speaker 5: So that's the first part.
35:58
Speaker 3: So if you out here and you yourself in situations,
36:02
Speaker 3: then your people are gonna put you in situations right.
36:05
Speaker 3: And I would say for the most part is just
36:08
Speaker 3: like get good people around you.
36:10
Speaker 5: It's gonna be straight up with you.
36:12
Speaker 3: Because the thing that I've noticed in this you know
36:14
Speaker 3: not so much now I got a great team shout
36:15
Speaker 3: out to A ninety nine, But people don't be real
36:20
Speaker 3: with you because they need you and you're their livelihood,
36:23
Speaker 3: and they'll let you jump off a cliff, you know
36:25
Speaker 3: what I mean, just to make you feel like they
36:27
Speaker 3: down right. And then the second thing is, you know,
36:30
Speaker 3: we always want to look out for everybody because that's
36:32
Speaker 3: how that's what you're supposed to do to a certain extent.
36:35
Speaker 3: But you can't let people say just because I was
36:37
Speaker 3: with you from here, that you you're obligated to do
36:43
Speaker 3: A B and C just because I was around, because
36:46
Speaker 3: it got to be like, more so, what are you contributing?
36:49
Speaker 5: Like, are you an asset or a liability? Right?
36:51
Speaker 3: Because if that's the case, you know, you know, you
36:56
Speaker 3: you owe everybody that you you know, right because they
36:59
Speaker 3: all being a part of what you did, they all
37:01
Speaker 3: told somebody about your song or whatever. But it's almost
37:04
Speaker 3: so like if you got a lot of that around you,
37:06
Speaker 3: you're not gonna have like real energy because their expectations
37:11
Speaker 3: are gonna be different than yours. So that's gonna cause
37:13
Speaker 3: a lot of resentment. So that's just bad blood you
37:15
Speaker 3: got in your camp. And once you start getting that
37:17
Speaker 3: bad vibe of your camp, you can't really you can't
37:21
Speaker 3: really you can't really be productive and growth like you
37:25
Speaker 3: can't because people around you will be sabotaging everything you're
37:28
Speaker 3: trying to do. In some safe form of fashion, it's
37:31
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
37:31
Speaker 6: I've seen a lot of people talking about how hip
37:33
Speaker 6: hop is, like, you know, kind of declining. Do you
37:37
Speaker 6: think that's because of all these charges that these rappers
37:40
Speaker 6: are getting hit with for their lyrics? Do you think
37:42
Speaker 6: that people, you know, rappers are kind of like holding
37:44
Speaker 6: back from the things that they actually want to say
37:46
Speaker 6: in albums Now.
37:47
Speaker 3: No, I think it's more so that it's just so saturated. Okay,
37:51
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's just so much you know,
37:53
Speaker 3: it's so so much music coming out as hard for
37:56
Speaker 3: somebody that's to stand out for a long period of time.
37:59
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I think that it's set
38:02
Speaker 3: up that way. But what I will give them they
38:05
Speaker 3: flowers on is the fact that they're able. They're better
38:08
Speaker 3: businessmen if you ask me. You know what I'm saying,
38:11
Speaker 3: because they most of them are going straight to consumer
38:14
Speaker 3: or building their their notoriety of so big these labels
38:19
Speaker 3: got to come to them and give them Lebron James checks.
38:22
Speaker 5: When we was getting Michael Jordan checks. You see what
38:24
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
38:25
Speaker 3: Like they're getting a different type of money because they're
38:27
Speaker 3: building themselves up. So by the time a label get involved,
38:30
Speaker 3: they're already there. They don't really need the label. They're
38:32
Speaker 3: just taking the money, right, And I think that's the difference.
38:34
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Speaker 1: I wanted to give you some flowers real quick and
38:57
Speaker 1: just tell you you changed my life. For the two
38:59
Speaker 1: years I traveled in country with you, I never and
39:03
Speaker 1: I tell bt DC and everybody all the time, can't
39:06
Speaker 1: nobody talk about you, right? But I just wanted to
39:10
Speaker 1: tell you changed my life because nobody had never took
39:15
Speaker 1: me under their wing and been a real big brother
39:19
Speaker 1: to me. So super Bowl weekend when you put this
39:22
Speaker 1: on my.
39:22
Speaker 5: Wrist, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I.
39:30
Speaker 1: Remember I had to go back to work and I
39:32
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Jesus, just put this on my wrist.
39:34
Speaker 1: And I remember Kenny Burns is like, what are you
39:37
Speaker 1: gonna do?
39:37
Speaker 5: I was like, what do you mean? I keep learning it?
39:39
Speaker 1: So I wanted to say that, And I also wanted
39:42
Speaker 1: to say, like, just being around you, I learned how to.
39:46
Speaker 5: I learned.
39:46
Speaker 1: I watched you personally and I watched you as a celebrity,
39:51
Speaker 1: and at one moment that of course we shared some
39:54
Speaker 1: moments that I never tell, but I want to say
39:57
Speaker 1: that you definitely taught me a lot. You want to
40:00
Speaker 1: tell you on camera you already noticed, but I overly
40:03
Speaker 1: appreciate you because I've applied their ways in my life,
40:09
Speaker 1: I've learned the ways of the Hey, you know what
40:14
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, let me try to articulate myself, because
40:17
Speaker 1: I'm losing it a little bit. But I'm trying to say,
40:21
Speaker 1: I learned from you how to keep keep my composure.
40:25
Speaker 5: I've learned my bad job.
40:29
Speaker 1: What else did I learn? I just learned a lot.
40:32
Speaker 1: But I've learned how to become I don't want to
40:35
Speaker 1: say a man, but I learned how to become a
40:39
Speaker 1: important person because I saw how you carried yourself so presidential.
40:44
Speaker 1: Every traveling with you was the best.
40:51
Speaker 4: That take care of his people.
40:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, like we traveled well.
40:55
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to tell you, man, I took
40:57
Speaker 1: notes every time I was around you, and and even out,
41:00
Speaker 1: still receiving every day I received that. I'm always taking notes.
41:05
Speaker 3: I received that, brom and I'm I received that, Bro.
41:08
Speaker 3: And I tell you all the time. I shoot you
41:10
Speaker 3: a text every now. Yes, yes, I love to see it.
41:12
Speaker 5: I'm pride. I'm happy for you, man.
41:14
Speaker 1: You I tell all over the place when you first got.
41:17
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, Bro. At the same time, I
41:19
Speaker 3: keep telling people like that's a new riots. Crist y'all
41:21
Speaker 3: playing He's gonna be bigger than life, you know what
41:22
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
41:23
Speaker 4: They want to comment on the take care of the people.
41:26
Speaker 3: Yes, no, I was saying, but you could take care,
41:28
Speaker 3: but you just got to make sure that that's what
41:30
Speaker 3: they want. Like when we talk, he knew exactly what
41:33
Speaker 3: he wanted. So our conversations was just like about how
41:36
Speaker 3: to get to that, and then we throw him back
41:38
Speaker 3: and forth ideas you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
41:41
Speaker 3: that work, you know that don't work, and then we
41:43
Speaker 3: just and I just started to watch him.
41:44
Speaker 5: But he wanted it and he still does.
41:46
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying, Like, if you're giving somebody
41:48
Speaker 3: information or knowledge, they got to want to want to
41:51
Speaker 3: either use it or want to get the way they're
41:54
Speaker 3: trying to go, because you can't make nobody get in
41:55
Speaker 3: the car.
41:56
Speaker 4: So helping people who help themselves, right, got you right?
41:59
Speaker 5: I like that. See that's a bar bars, she said basically.
42:08
Speaker 4: Now, I learned so much throughout this interview. I'm so
42:11
Speaker 4: grateful that you took the time to come out. I
42:13
Speaker 4: think you guys man, the vulnerability that you're sharing in
42:16
Speaker 4: this book, I can't wait to read it and listen
42:17
Speaker 4: to the audio version.
42:20
Speaker 5: Laughing at me.
42:21
Speaker 4: Now documentary or a movie to follow?
42:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been, We've been thinking about it. You know,
42:27
Speaker 3: of course, I got a million one things going on.
42:30
Speaker 3: I definitely want to because it's different, you know what
42:33
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like doing a book and really putting your
42:37
Speaker 3: life on pages. So I want to just see how
42:39
Speaker 3: this feels for me, right, and I love the office space.
42:42
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if you got another book before
42:44
Speaker 3: you got a movie. I like it. It's something I
42:47
Speaker 3: like and you can.
42:48
Speaker 4: Sell that right basically, Yet made it after watching this.
42:55
Speaker 4: You give motivational speak like I think every time you
42:58
Speaker 4: open your mouth, and you know, I think that's just
43:00
Speaker 4: your gifts.
43:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, I learned.
43:02
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy because I learned a lot of
43:03
Speaker 3: what I learned and I talk about in the book
43:05
Speaker 3: through music, Like I learned through like Tupac. You know,
43:08
Speaker 3: like people just listen to the music and like it.
43:10
Speaker 3: But I was actually like in church, you know.
43:12
Speaker 5: What I'm saying.
43:13
Speaker 3: You know, some people just go to church on Sunday,
43:15
Speaker 3: but a lot of people go to church. They's sitting
43:17
Speaker 3: there and they hanging on every word. And I just
43:19
Speaker 3: hung on a lot of his words because he had
43:21
Speaker 3: he had morals, he had values. So I took a
43:24
Speaker 3: little bit of that and that's why my first album
43:26
Speaker 3: was called Thug Motivation, you know what I'm saying, because
43:29
Speaker 3: you know, he took thug life, he made it a movement.
43:31
Speaker 3: It wasn't just about thug and it was about standing
43:34
Speaker 3: for something, so that you get a lot of that.
43:37
Speaker 3: But yeah, so this is like, you know, this is
43:40
Speaker 3: this is a long time coming, you know, and I
43:43
Speaker 3: hope people really understand it. I'm trying to help. I'm
43:47
Speaker 3: trying to give back and I'm trying to enlighten. I'm
43:49
Speaker 3: trying to motivate. I'm trying to expire inspire and you know,
43:53
Speaker 3: ain't none of us perfect.
43:54
Speaker 5: We all try and figure it out.
43:56
Speaker 3: But everything we can do for each other in the process,
43:58
Speaker 3: because that's all it's really about resources, relationships and advice.
44:02
Speaker 6: Well, we're still were still going to church because every
44:04
Speaker 6: time you in Atlanta and you go to the club
44:07
Speaker 6: in Atlanta, it's a jeezy set.
44:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that part I remember nights. I don't remember
44:12
Speaker 2: nice people in the club.
44:17
Speaker 1: Do you think that that don't you think that's dope?
44:19
Speaker 1: Because the young generation doesn't have to embrace. But they
44:23
Speaker 1: are embracing you and they're saying your ship word for word,
44:26
Speaker 1: and you weren't even that.
44:28
Speaker 3: But you know, when people tell you I was five,
44:30
Speaker 3: you know, I was in middle school, I'm like, yeah,
44:35
Speaker 3: I gotta tell me that. I think it's I think
44:38
Speaker 3: it's dope, man, because Lord knows, man, I went through
44:41
Speaker 3: it all to put those words together, man, like you
44:43
Speaker 3: you had no idea, like I went through the five
44:46
Speaker 3: and the fact that it's still there lets me know
44:49
Speaker 3: there wasn't in vain, you know what I'm saying. So
44:51
Speaker 3: every day, every time I'm even when I hear the stage,
44:54
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I'm gonna perform songs like I
44:56
Speaker 3: just came out yesterday, you know, because this is this
45:00
Speaker 3: is my life.
45:00
Speaker 5: I love it, you know what I mean.
45:01
Speaker 3: And I love the fact that I was able to
45:03
Speaker 3: put together somebodies of work that they captured that, you know,
45:06
Speaker 3: because a lot of times, you know, you can miss
45:08
Speaker 3: the mark.
45:09
Speaker 4: And I feel like, like I said, I think this
45:11
Speaker 4: is going into a whole different new life, Like you
45:13
Speaker 4: got the books right now, but I feel like it's
45:15
Speaker 4: gonna turn into a documentary TV series, like they have
45:19
Speaker 4: to be a meth.
45:19
Speaker 2: It'll be like.
45:20
Speaker 5: Something with your Jane Saint Patrick. I'll take that.
45:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know, and it's a whole story,
45:27
Speaker 4: you know, and we could just you know, we can
45:29
Speaker 4: audition to something already.
45:32
Speaker 5: I already know the part you need to play.
45:39
Speaker 4: Gonna be dope.
45:40
Speaker 5: It's gonna be dope. We get out of here. That's
45:42
Speaker 5: your camera. Get these folks some motivation.
45:46
Speaker 4: You know.
45:46
Speaker 3: If I can tell you anything, I just tell you know,
45:48
Speaker 3: if you can hold it in your head, you can
45:50
Speaker 3: hold it in your hands. And that's what I live by,
45:52
Speaker 3: Like if you can think of it, you can do it.
45:54
Speaker 3: And that's real, Like I hope, I'm living proof that
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