Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Monday Mini: The Birthday Blues
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
- 0:07Speaker 1: I've never told you production by heart to you, and.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Welcome to another Monday mini where I look up things
- 0:22Speaker 2: that are wrong with me. You're welcome. Essentially, if you've
- 0:26Speaker 2: been around for a while listening for a minute, you
- 0:28Speaker 2: probably already know. When it comes to birthdays, Annie and
- 0:31Speaker 2: I have a hard time, especially with the celebrations in general.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Of course, her and my reasons vary, but I did
- 0:40Speaker 2: wonder if this could be something that is pretty common. Yes,
- 0:42Speaker 2: my birthday is coming up soon. We just passed Annie's birthday.
- 0:46Speaker 2: This is like birthday season because our super producer Maya's
- 0:49Speaker 2: birthdays are up to so so many things are happening. Then,
- 0:53Speaker 2: all my partner's family's birthdays is around this corner too,
- 0:57Speaker 2: and my mom. Man, there's so many birthdays. The most
- 1:01Speaker 2: common birthday someone noted with September ninth.
- 1:06Speaker 3: My older brother's birthday is September ninth.
- 1:08Speaker 2: So yeah, September ninth is the most common birthday, which
- 1:11Speaker 2: sounds about right. I'm pretty sure this is all like
- 1:12Speaker 2: the New Year celebration for everybody. Awkward and with all that, yes,
- 1:17Speaker 2: it is actually pretty common. This occurrence of not wanting
- 1:20Speaker 2: to celebrate birthdays or being sad. In fact, it gets
- 1:22Speaker 2: its own title as they call it birthday depression, surprise,
- 1:28Speaker 2: or the birthday blues, which sounds better to me. It
- 1:31Speaker 2: is not a DSM five diagnosis, so don't think that,
- 1:35Speaker 2: but it is common enough that people have kind of
- 1:37Speaker 2: like classified this and have written a lot about it.
- 1:40Speaker 2: So here's a bit from verywellmined dot com quote. Birthday
- 1:44Speaker 2: depression or the birthday blues refers to feeling sad, apathetic,
- 1:48Speaker 2: or disinterested in celebrating or thinking about your birthday. In
- 1:51Speaker 2: addition to experiencing sadness, birthday depression can also include a
- 1:55Speaker 2: sense of low energy or focusing on the past, including
- 1:58Speaker 2: everything you may or may not have accomplished so far.
- 2:01Speaker 2: These feelings may arise in the days leading up to
- 2:03Speaker 2: a person's birthday, on the actual day, and for some
- 2:06Speaker 2: time after as well, so it never ends. Just kidding, So,
- 2:11Speaker 2: of course, there are several reasons why this occurs. Of course,
- 2:15Speaker 2: depression and anxiety just in general can be it in itself,
- 2:19Speaker 2: but also it can be related to family stuff well
- 2:22Speaker 2: or childhood trauma. I think we all know this, but
- 2:25Speaker 2: here are some symptoms just in case you needed some,
- 2:27Speaker 2: and they are very specific, again from very well mined
- 2:30Speaker 2: dot com. Symptoms include a change in your mood that
- 2:33Speaker 2: persists and lasts for several days surrounding your birthday. Feeling
- 2:37Speaker 2: more low down or sad than usual, crying more often
- 2:41Speaker 2: than usual, ruminating on the past and goals that accomplished again,
- 2:44Speaker 2: stressed about how much time you have left to live,
- 2:47Speaker 2: not having much energy or motivation to do things, lack
- 2:51Speaker 2: of interest in doing what you typically enjoy, changes in sleep,
- 2:53Speaker 2: changes is an appetite, difficulty focusing on or concentrating physical
- 2:57Speaker 2: aids or pains. Maybe that's what's wrong with me. I've
- 3:00Speaker 2: been in a lot of pain. Little wanting to avoid
- 3:02Speaker 2: the actual day of your birth and disinterest in celebrating
- 3:06Speaker 2: your birthday, rejecting or refusing plans, desire to isolate yourself. Yes,
- 3:13Speaker 2: and I found this quote from a Refinering twenty nine
- 3:16Speaker 2: article that's honestly really relatable. Says. While there hasn't been
- 3:21Speaker 2: much research into birthday depressions, specifically anecdotally, the birthday blues
- 3:26Speaker 2: are becoming a common feeling that people experience each year.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Ella thirty tells us about her own birthday depression. She says.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Social media really affects me. I see people making birthday
- 3:36Speaker 2: post claiming it's their birthday week, people who are spoilt
- 3:39Speaker 2: all week by their friends and family. I get depressed
- 3:42Speaker 2: because I don't get that, she shares. But when I
- 3:44Speaker 2: do get spoiled, I feel like I don't deserve it.
- 3:47Speaker 2: So I tend to not want to make my birthday
- 3:49Speaker 2: a thing, even though deep inside I think I do.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Beth thirty one has similar sentiments. I feel behind on
- 3:56Speaker 2: life's plans, or at least what is expected to be
- 3:58Speaker 2: achieved by certain she says, and she's not alone. Yeah,
- 4:03Speaker 2: and I think we've talked about this situation specifically many times,
- 4:07Speaker 2: not just related to birthdays. But I can see that
- 4:11Speaker 2: being a concern. So for me, I feel the same way.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I feel like, if you don't celebrate my birthday, it
- 4:20Speaker 2: kind of hurts my feelings because I feel like you've
- 4:21Speaker 2: forgotten about me. But if you do celebrate my birthday,
- 4:24Speaker 2: it feels overwhelming and I don't want that attention. So
- 4:26Speaker 2: I have this like complex relationship with it that I
- 4:30Speaker 2: want to be noticed, but I don't. I think it's
- 4:32Speaker 2: the same thing when we talked about being a part
- 4:34Speaker 2: of a podcast where we talk a lot about ourselves
- 4:38Speaker 2: or the issues around and then we are seen as
- 4:43Speaker 2: not experts necessarily, but people who do know and should
- 4:47Speaker 2: know certain things. And so if we don't meet that,
- 4:51Speaker 2: you know, we feel like we felt. But it's one
- 4:52Speaker 2: of those things like, yes, I want to be seen
- 4:55Speaker 2: as a somewhat expert, but I also don't want to
- 4:57Speaker 2: be seen I want to do this that I don't
- 5:01Speaker 2: want people to recognize me. Like all of these things
- 5:04Speaker 2: are both both one and the same, And I feel
- 5:06Speaker 2: like this is how I feel in celebrating birthdays in holidays.
- 5:10Speaker 2: It feels like it should be something and I can't
- 5:12Speaker 2: get to that something. But if it's not done for me,
- 5:15Speaker 2: it hurts my feelings. If you forgot about my birthday,
- 5:18Speaker 2: I I'd be sad. If you send me a fruit plate,
- 5:21Speaker 2: I'm gonna be sad. But if you didn't see me, yeah,
- 5:27Speaker 2: a specific incentate you see me a dry fruit that is.
- 5:31Speaker 2: But you're supposed to know me and you don't know me.
- 5:33Speaker 2: I'm like why. So there's a lot of things. So
- 5:35Speaker 2: the article goes on to explain about this a little more.
- 5:39Speaker 2: People who get down on their birthday might be confronting
- 5:42Speaker 2: fears of getting older and facing their own mortality kings
- 5:45Speaker 2: as a psychologist. For others, it could prompt a reflection
- 5:48Speaker 2: on unrealized hopes, vanished expectations, and past failures. People might
- 5:53Speaker 2: feel like they're not where they thought they would be
- 5:55Speaker 2: or wanted to be at the stage of life. People
- 5:57Speaker 2: might also feel overwhelmed by the pressure to feel happy
- 6:00Speaker 2: and joyful on this day that is routinely dedicated to celebrations,
- 6:05Speaker 2: at least in Western cultures. For some people, it might
- 6:08Speaker 2: also activate traumatic memories, particularly if birthdays are a reminder
- 6:12Speaker 2: of sad overwhelming our tragic experiences. And yeah, that's exactly
- 6:17Speaker 2: one of those things of like I don't necessarily think
- 6:19Speaker 2: about the mortality of it all, Like I have gotten
- 6:22Speaker 2: more like, oh I'm getting old, But birthdays are not
- 6:25Speaker 2: the thing. It's just more of like, oh, look at
- 6:26Speaker 2: all the gray hairs, or oh my face is saggy,
- 6:29Speaker 2: or oh my god, I've reacted to retinal in a
- 6:30Speaker 2: really bad way and my face is now puffy. Those
- 6:33Speaker 2: moments not necessarily birthdays. But then the other parts of
- 6:38Speaker 2: that of like I should be celebrating. I love the
- 6:41Speaker 2: people who love their birthdays it is so fun to
- 6:44Speaker 2: watch them really excited and really enjoying their birthday. It
- 6:48Speaker 2: also is nice when you know people will really remind
- 6:51Speaker 2: you like that means you're alive. Celebrate that, you know,
- 6:54Speaker 2: And there's moments of like, yeah, yeah, I wish I
- 6:58Speaker 2: was that person that could feel that way and it's
- 7:00Speaker 2: not something. And again it's one of those moments of like,
- 7:03Speaker 2: you really try to push yourself because you feel like
- 7:06Speaker 2: you should feel a certain way, but you really have
- 7:09Speaker 2: a hard time with that because now you have this
- 7:11Speaker 2: double layer of guilt. In another conversation, they talked about
- 7:16Speaker 2: maybe it's because I'm an introvert. Maybe it's an introverted thing.
- 7:20Speaker 2: So here's some thoughts about why introverts may hate their birthdays.
- 7:23Speaker 2: According to introvert Dear dot com thank you to that person.
- 7:27Speaker 2: One is that they get too much attention. This one's
- 7:30Speaker 2: a no brainer. They right. Most introverts don't like being
- 7:34Speaker 2: the center of attention, so having an entire day dedicated
- 7:37Speaker 2: to them can be quite uncomfortable. It is especially tough
- 7:40Speaker 2: when they're put on display in front of a lot
- 7:42Speaker 2: of people anxiously waiting to see their reactions while opening
- 7:45Speaker 2: gifts or making a wish and blowing out the candles
- 7:48Speaker 2: to the tune of Happy Birthday. I and I say
- 7:52Speaker 2: this because I love people opening gifts from me, But
- 7:56Speaker 2: I have a hard time opening gifts because no matter what,
- 7:59Speaker 2: there's like dread of how I'm supposed to act, and
- 8:06Speaker 2: if it doesn't meet my expectations, sometimes I get a
- 8:09Speaker 2: little overwhelmed and get very sleepy. We know this is
- 8:11Speaker 2: how I react emotionally. So I'm like, I don't know
- 8:14Speaker 2: what to do right now, and people are really really excited,
- 8:17Speaker 2: especially when they're excited, and I'm so bad. I'm that
- 8:19Speaker 2: person that gets excited about giving certain kids cause I'm like,
- 8:21Speaker 2: I couldn't really love this, And then I'm like, oh no,
- 8:24Speaker 2: I need to calm down because they might not really
- 8:26Speaker 2: love this, you know, like that moment because I'm the
- 8:29Speaker 2: same way. Then there's the whole idea of the social
- 8:34Speaker 2: exhaustion of a party. Yeah, after my last big party,
- 8:37Speaker 2: I quit because it was so overwhelming. I felt like
- 8:40Speaker 2: I had failed in being in throwing a party and
- 8:43Speaker 2: it was for my own damn birthday, and I was like,
- 8:46Speaker 2: I'll never do this again. Why did I do this?
- 8:49Speaker 2: They write, and when we throw a party, we might
- 8:51Speaker 2: end up feeling anxious and worrying if everyone is having fun.
- 8:55Speaker 2: It's our party, so we feel the pressure and responsibility
- 8:58Speaker 2: to be a good host and ensure everyone is enjoying themselves,
- 9:01Speaker 2: but in the process we sometimes forget to have a
- 9:04Speaker 2: good time ourselves. There are definitely moments when I see
- 9:06Speaker 2: people unhappy and it feels like a reflection of me
- 9:09Speaker 2: and our friendship, and that feel awful. Like this is
- 9:11Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, oh
- 9:14Speaker 2: my god, why did I do this to myself? And
- 9:17Speaker 2: I really thought because I used to love hosting things
- 9:20Speaker 2: a lot, but for my birthday, it felt overwhelming. And
- 9:23Speaker 2: that was one of those moments of like, and this
- 9:25Speaker 2: was pre pandemic of like tripping into don't I don't
- 9:28Speaker 2: think I like this. I don't like this feeling of
- 9:30Speaker 2: being responsible. And if I see someone not having a
- 9:33Speaker 2: good time or feeling like they're isolated, oh my god, Yeah,
- 9:39Speaker 2: I'll think about that. I still think about those moments.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I still think about specific moments from that birthday party.
- 9:44Speaker 2: They're like, I'll never do this again. And then there's
- 9:46Speaker 2: another one, the pressure to make it a special day. Yeah,
- 9:50Speaker 2: And they talked about the pressure from others to make
- 9:52Speaker 2: it a special day can be too much, and I
- 9:55Speaker 2: think that's too Like I put that pressure on myself,
- 9:57Speaker 2: but then I also put that pressure on other people.
- 9:59Speaker 2: If they don't meet that, I feel really disappointed. What
- 10:04Speaker 2: the hell? Yeah, So I also love that they go
- 10:07Speaker 2: on to talk about how they don't necessarily hate all birthdays,
- 10:11Speaker 2: is they just don't like their own. Yep, and I
- 10:13Speaker 2: am that person. I love celebrating other people and I
- 10:17Speaker 2: will do it as best I can in the way
- 10:19Speaker 2: that they want to do it. But I need to
- 10:20Speaker 2: celebrate you, whether it's just me and you going to
- 10:22Speaker 2: your favorite restaurant, whether it's me and you having this
- 10:25Speaker 2: one like trip, whether it's me give buying you something
- 10:28Speaker 2: that you wanted for like forever, like it needs. I
- 10:31Speaker 2: need to celebrate your birthday. But for me to do
- 10:34Speaker 2: it on my own, it feels really overall overwhelming and like, yeah,
- 10:41Speaker 2: feeling like it's going to be too much for people,
- 10:44Speaker 2: or that I'm going to disappoint people, or that I'm
- 10:46Speaker 2: going to be disappointed myself, and like there's so many
- 10:48Speaker 2: things in that. And yeah, there are things that these
- 11:01Speaker 2: articles say that you can do. Here's a bit from
- 11:03Speaker 2: the Refinery twenty nine article Get reflective. Try to understand
- 11:07Speaker 2: why you feel the way you feel, like, be okay
- 11:09Speaker 2: in your feelings, kind of analyze a little bit, try
- 11:11Speaker 2: to see where that route comes from. If you can,
- 11:13Speaker 2: if it's not too traumatic, be careful of that. Practice
- 11:17Speaker 2: self compassion, do the things that you want to do.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Give yourself allowance to not celebrate if you don't want to,
- 11:23Speaker 2: to just be a day or just do something that's
- 11:25Speaker 2: so different that you don't have to think about it.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Like a couple of years ago, any we went on
- 11:31Speaker 2: that cabin trip. It was actually really lovely and all
- 11:34Speaker 2: we did was sit around with the three of us
- 11:36Speaker 2: playing games and eating schnittle. Yeah, we went to Helen. Y'all, Helen, Georgia.
- 11:42Speaker 2: If you know, you know, lower your expectation, stop pressuring
- 11:45Speaker 2: yourself or others to meet a certain ideal or standard.
- 11:48Speaker 2: And I think this is why I started traveling more
- 11:52Speaker 2: for birthdays, because you can't really control everything, so you
- 11:55Speaker 2: don't know exactly what to expect, so you just let
- 11:57Speaker 2: it be. And that's kind of like that's that being
- 12:01Speaker 2: a part of that, And I kind of control enough
- 12:03Speaker 2: to know the destination I want to go, but I
- 12:05Speaker 2: don't know what all it's going to be there, and
- 12:07Speaker 2: just kind of letting that time fly and knowing that
- 12:09Speaker 2: sometimes doing too much gets me tired, so being able
- 12:12Speaker 2: to enjoy a nice hotel room. It's also really good
- 12:15Speaker 2: be honest, let others know what you're thinking or what
- 12:18Speaker 2: you do or don't want. And I think that's a
- 12:21Speaker 2: big part. Sometimes I just don't though I don't know,
- 12:24Speaker 2: and that's that part of the conversation, Like I don't
- 12:26Speaker 2: know what I want to do again, you and I've
- 12:29Speaker 2: talked about this. Sometimes one of the things I do
- 12:31Speaker 2: want is not to plan it. Yeah, and that's hard
- 12:34Speaker 2: to figure out how to do that. Then you do
- 12:36Speaker 2: want to do something, you just don't know what and
- 12:38Speaker 2: you don't want to be the one to plan it.
- 12:41Speaker 2: And then it says, give yourself permission to feel good.
- 12:44Speaker 2: It's okay to be happy and be with who you love.
- 12:46Speaker 2: So just really like, it's okay, do what makes you happy.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Do something that you like, whether it is just hanging
- 12:55Speaker 2: out with your dog, eating a piece of cake from
- 12:58Speaker 2: Whole Foods. You do you if that makes you happy,
- 13:02Speaker 2: if you makes you happy, to go to a drag
- 13:06Speaker 2: show to play bingo. Do that, you know, hang out
- 13:09Speaker 2: with a favorite friends and just have some drinks and
- 13:11Speaker 2: sit around. That's lovely. And then there's one more that
- 13:15Speaker 2: I found from very well mined celebrate however you feel comfortable.
- 13:19Speaker 2: This is about you do what you want. And again, like,
- 13:22Speaker 2: this is finding your levels, your comfort levels, and abiding
- 13:25Speaker 2: by them. Don't let other people take over and do
- 13:29Speaker 2: things that you were uncomfortable with. Having a surprise party,
- 13:32Speaker 2: I would kill somebody. You better let me know we're
- 13:35Speaker 2: having a party, and then you better let me know
- 13:36Speaker 2: what to expect, because if not, we're gonna fight. I
- 13:40Speaker 2: have not get with surprise parties. I had one thrown
- 13:43Speaker 2: from me when I got my citizenship in middle school,
- 13:47Speaker 2: and my best friend at the time knew I was
- 13:49Speaker 2: going to start crying if I walked in, because not
- 13:52Speaker 2: only was it embarrassing, it felt very othering, like they're
- 13:54Speaker 2: trying to celebrate and it was such a sweet idea,
- 13:56Speaker 2: but I'm like, hey, wait, not only am I not?
- 14:01Speaker 2: Am I the only non white person here? You're going
- 14:03Speaker 2: to celebrate something that is kind of alienating because I'm
- 14:07Speaker 2: the only non white person here. So like, but it
- 14:10Speaker 2: was such a sweet thought, just a little bit like misdirected.
- 14:14Speaker 2: So my friend at the time was like, Hey, I'm
- 14:16Speaker 2: gonna give your heads up. They're about to do a
- 14:17Speaker 2: surprise party, a surprise I know you're going to freak out,
- 14:19Speaker 2: like yes, I needed that.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Thank you good friends, And I know she.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Was like, I got you.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Don't cry.
- 14:26Speaker 2: So with all of that, all of this complaining and
- 14:29Speaker 2: all of these thoughts, it is sometimes nice to see
- 14:31Speaker 2: that I'm not the only one. And I think we
- 14:34Speaker 2: both feel like sometimes we are too much in our
- 14:37Speaker 2: heads when it comes to celebrating birthdays and trying to
- 14:40Speaker 2: figure out why this is such a problem, and then
- 14:42Speaker 2: feeling really bad for other people to have to deal
- 14:44Speaker 2: with our problems. It's nice to see that we're not
- 14:48Speaker 2: the only ones. That people are talking about this a
- 14:51Speaker 2: little more, and at the very least like not necessarily
- 14:56Speaker 2: encouraging it or trying to like make it bigger, just
- 14:59Speaker 2: like being able to be like, Okay, I see it
- 15:01Speaker 2: can it can be. It could be different for different people.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Different people I have different reactions, and there's no such
- 15:08Speaker 2: thing as a norm when it comes to birthdays and
- 15:10Speaker 2: celebrations and all of that. Being told that they're happy
- 15:14Speaker 2: you're here is lovely. I love you know. When people
- 15:17Speaker 2: tell me happy birthday, I feel so great. At the
- 15:19Speaker 2: same time, it does feel like are you so to
- 15:21Speaker 2: Like it's just out of a courtesy because I love
- 15:25Speaker 2: the Facebook. When I get messages from people I have
- 15:27Speaker 2: not talked to you in ten years happy birthday, I'm like, oh,
- 15:30Speaker 2: but you what?
- 15:33Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting the text message too, because like, I'm
- 15:38Speaker 4: a very equal opportunity texter. If you text me, I'll
- 15:41Speaker 4: text you right right, Happy Birthday. This year, I got
- 15:44Speaker 4: some out of left field people I haven't heard from
- 15:47Speaker 4: in a while texting me, and I was like, where's
- 15:50Speaker 4: this coming?
- 15:51Speaker 2: Feels awkward. What's even more awkward is when I don't
- 15:53Speaker 2: have their phone number and I don't know if they
- 15:56Speaker 2: are and I'm like, oh no, who is this?
- 15:59Speaker 3: Yes, well I was on the other end of that once.
- 16:01Speaker 4: I texted at someone I considered close and I was like,
- 16:05Speaker 4: happy birthday, and she's like, thanks, who is.
- 16:08Speaker 3: Awkward? I never texted her Happy birthday again.
- 16:13Speaker 2: That was actually one of the things on the list
- 16:15Speaker 2: about like my introverse don't want introvers don't like about
- 16:17Speaker 2: their birthday. It was about their phone calls. I didn't
- 16:19Speaker 2: think it was a big deal but apparently could be.
- 16:23Speaker 2: But yes, with all of that and through our listeners,
- 16:25Speaker 2: who says happy birthday to us, thank you so much,
- 16:28Speaker 2: it is like, really does kind because we do feel
- 16:31Speaker 2: like this is not the same thing as when I
- 16:32Speaker 2: talk about the Facebook things. You know us, you know
- 16:35Speaker 2: who we are, and you sincerely wishing us a happy
- 16:38Speaker 2: birthday is always a feel good moment. And you've got
- 16:41Speaker 2: so many happy birthdays and likes on your pictures because
- 16:44Speaker 2: you're so cute anyway, But yes, this year again, in
- 16:48Speaker 2: order to take control of my own birthday doing things
- 16:51Speaker 2: that I do love, we are I am heading to Seattle,
- 16:55Speaker 2: So we're going to be in Seattle, going to Mountaineer
- 16:58Speaker 2: for a couple of days because I want to see
- 17:00Speaker 2: the mountains. I love the mountains. And then I'm going
- 17:02Speaker 2: to see my friend in Portland for a day, excited
- 17:04Speaker 2: to see them. They come to Atlanta a lot, but
- 17:07Speaker 2: I get the first time I get to see them there.
- 17:09Speaker 2: And we're gonna hopefully again look at some mountains, eat
- 17:12Speaker 2: delicious food with people I love, including Annie, who is
- 17:15Speaker 2: so excited about our birthday, but more so excited about
- 17:18Speaker 2: the last of us day.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Y'all look if you want pressure taking off of your birthday.
- 17:24Speaker 2: And I actually really loved it. I was like, yeah,
- 17:26Speaker 2: look alone. So with that, I know Annie has actually
- 17:31Speaker 2: gotten some suggestions from Savor because a lot of the
- 17:35Speaker 2: people like food.
- 17:35Speaker 3: I got you.
- 17:36Speaker 2: So if you have any suggestions for us, please send
- 17:39Speaker 2: it because we need more suggestions. I do have birthday
- 17:42Speaker 2: plans already because I found a restaurant that's reminiscent of
- 17:46Speaker 2: an Italian area that I went to and I was
- 17:49Speaker 2: so excited about it. I hope they have some of
- 17:50Speaker 2: the similar foods that I ate there. But yes, send
- 17:53Speaker 2: us your suggestions places that we should go, things that
- 17:55Speaker 2: we should see. We need this, We would love those recommendations. Uh,
- 18:01Speaker 2: you know good coffee. Good coffee is always always exciting
- 18:04Speaker 2: about that. You know, anything good? Let us know, because yes,
- 18:08Speaker 2: this is how I'm celebriting birthday. I'm really excited about
- 18:12Speaker 2: the strip. Is the first time I've ever been to Seattle.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Yeah it's first time for you too.
- 18:16Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, I've wanted to go for a very
- 18:19Speaker 4: very long time.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Pre last of us, pre last of us yeah right,
- 18:23Speaker 2: just kidding. Yeah, we try to find a hotel that
- 18:25Speaker 2: we do get to see some of the last of
- 18:27Speaker 2: us shots, so hopefully we see a little bit of it.
- 18:31Speaker 4: I haven't I haven't updated you on my like oh no,
- 18:35Speaker 4: itinerary that I'm going to try to do before you
- 18:37Speaker 4: wake up.
- 18:38Speaker 2: But that's funny. I'm excited.
- 18:40Speaker 4: I'm going to that damn theater and I might have
- 18:44Speaker 4: found some very interesting plans to make it work.
- 18:46Speaker 3: But I will be there.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you have any suggestions, please let us know.
- 18:54Speaker 2: If you're around, maybe we you know, come and say
- 18:56Speaker 2: hey if you see us.
- 18:57Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this will be the last week of September.
- 19:04Speaker 4: We will be there. So yeah, if you have any suggestions,
- 19:07Speaker 4: they would be much appreciated because it's always nice to
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