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Popular Restaurant Hostess Stabbed Dead at Prominent Dentist Home. Still No Arrest · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What happened to Amber? Why
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Speaker 1: do we still not have answers in the case of
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Speaker 1: a young woman brutally murdered? It seems to me the
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Speaker 1: answer is right under the noses of authorities. But why
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Speaker 1: no arrest? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and serious
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Speaker 1: xem one eleven. First of all, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Around one on Sunday, her aunt, Wanda Spradland got a
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Speaker 2: call that would change her life.
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Speaker 3: Were out walking the flea market and her aunt other
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Speaker 3: aunt college and we enough we've seen her herd from her.
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Speaker 2: And we had Amber, who worked at the popular brick
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Speaker 2: house in Prestonsburg, wasn't at work or at home.
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Speaker 4: Early in life, Amber Spradlin sperienced trauma and heartbreak, but
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Speaker 4: she endured. She was just three years old when her
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Speaker 4: mother died, and later her sister died in a car accident.
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Speaker 4: She was raised by her grandparents and as they got older,
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Speaker 4: she in turn put her own life on hold to
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Speaker 4: care for them. After her grandparents passed, Amber Spradlin started
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Speaker 4: to grow. She moved into her own place for the
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Speaker 4: first time and got a job she really enjoyed at
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Speaker 4: the Brick House Restaurant. Amber Spradlin looked forward to every
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Speaker 4: day and every new adventure.
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Speaker 1: But that life of adventure she was finally getting to
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Speaker 1: live after her family raised her her grandparents after her
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Speaker 1: mom was killed. As they became elderly, she decided to
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Speaker 1: take care of them when they passed. She finally started
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Speaker 1: living the life she had dreamed of. She wanted to travel,
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Speaker 1: she wanted adventure, the same things that so many of
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Speaker 1: us want, but that was not to be. Joining me
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Speaker 1: an all star panel to make sense of what we
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Speaker 1: know right now to Jeff Vanderbeck, VP, publisher of Appalachian Newspapers, Inc.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. You can find Jeff at
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Speaker 1: Floyd County Chronicle dot com. Jeff, tell me about this
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Speaker 1: young woman, Amber Spradling. Seems like she had devoted so
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Speaker 1: much of her life trying to take care of her grandparents.
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Speaker 5: What we know of Amber at this point is that,
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Speaker 5: you know, she is a typical Eastern Kentuckian who is
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Speaker 5: a true grit, hardworking, just wants to take care of
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Speaker 5: her family members and so on and so forth. Just
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Speaker 5: you know, just from what we know of her, she's
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Speaker 5: at the regular all American type of individual who just
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Speaker 5: wanted to live life and do things right and so on.
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Speaker 1: Well was she doing at Brickhouse Restaurant? What was her
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Speaker 1: job there?
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Speaker 5: To my knowledge, I believe she was a hostess at
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Speaker 5: the restaurant. You know, the Brickhouse Restaurant's a nice restaurant.
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Speaker 5: It's been a staple of the community for a long time.
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Speaker 5: And I believe that it was just changed ownership several
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Speaker 5: years back to the current owner. I don't know exactly
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Speaker 5: how long Amber worked there, but you go in there
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Speaker 5: and she has a smiling face and she would, you know,
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Speaker 5: see you and say Hellodia. And she treated her customers
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Speaker 5: very well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us. Renowned psychoanalysts joining us
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Speaker 1: from Beverly Hills. You can find her at doctor Bethany
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Speaker 1: Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany. Have you ever gone to
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Speaker 1: a restaurant and the hostess or the person in charge,
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Speaker 1: let's just say, was so rude you never went back,
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Speaker 1: or the waiter or the way you just didn't care.
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Speaker 1: They were so put off having to bring you an
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Speaker 1: ice water with a straw or whatever you had asked for.
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Speaker 1: You just never went back anthees.
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Speaker 6: And I will say I've also had the opposite where
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Speaker 6: the host or the hostess really knows me, has a
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Speaker 6: relationship with me, knows all of the customers. And I
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Speaker 6: think that the restaurants that are the most successful, it's
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Speaker 6: not because of the owner, the cook, the people the back,
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Speaker 6: the wait staff, is the hostess. It's that first person
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Speaker 6: you greet when you walk through the front door, that
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Speaker 6: says hello and takes you through your table. And in
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Speaker 6: the case of Amber, it's that person who you know
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Speaker 6: is going to miss you if you go to another
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Speaker 6: restaurant instead of theirs. I mean, they're going to stay.
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Speaker 6: We missed you Friday night, we missed you Saturday. They
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Speaker 6: have a relationship with you and your family, especially in
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Speaker 6: this kind of a community. So she played an incredibly
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Speaker 6: important role in that restaurant.
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Speaker 1: And by all accounts, everybody loved this girl. Amber sprallin big,
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Speaker 1: huge smile, perfect teeth. I mean in the photos I've
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Speaker 1: seen of her, she's looking right at you in every
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Speaker 1: single one, she's got a big smile. According to everyone
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Speaker 1: that knew her, She's so beloved. So she gets this job.
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Speaker 1: She's no longer taking care of her grandparents they've passed away.
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Speaker 1: She feels she's done her duty, and she gets this
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Speaker 1: job at a local restaurant where her main job is
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Speaker 1: dealing with the public. Now that's an interesting job right there,
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Speaker 1: because and let me go to you, doctor Michelle Dupree
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Speaker 1: joining me, pathologist, medical examiner and important former detective. Doctor Dupree,
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Speaker 1: when you are a young woman and you are a
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Speaker 1: hostess at a very popular restaurant, you come in contact
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Speaker 1: with everybody in town and beyond, whoever may be passing
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Speaker 1: through town right there in Preston Burghs, Kentucky. So you
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Speaker 1: have no idea really who you're greeting, who you're meeting,
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Speaker 1: because they're there for an hour and they're gone. Who
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Speaker 1: knows who may have seen her, been attracted to her,
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Speaker 1: started watching her. We have no idea, doctor Dupree.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely see and you know, we oftentimes find that the
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Speaker 6: suspect will make some kind of a personal connection with
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Speaker 6: that person, and that person doesn't even realize it, and
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Speaker 6: they just have this fantasy in their mind and it
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Speaker 6: grows and grows, and again the victim or the person
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Speaker 6: in this case doesn't even realize it's happening. It's very scary.
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Speaker 1: You've got a young girl who finally goes out on
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Speaker 1: her own, gets her first place or first apartment, gets
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Speaker 1: this job, and her job is meeting and greeting the public.
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Speaker 1: People she knows, people she doesn't know. All day, all night,
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Speaker 1: We're trying to learn all we can about this missing woman,
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Speaker 1: Amber Spradling. But what happened the night she seemingly goes missing?
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends a crime online.
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Speaker 4: Saturday night, Amber Spradlin finishes her shift at the Brick
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Speaker 4: House Restaurant in Prestonsburg. She leaves the restaurant with a friend,
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Speaker 4: Roy Kid, and doctor Mike McKinnie. Doctor mckennie is a
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Speaker 4: well known dentist in town and also happens to be
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Speaker 4: the owner of the Brick House restaurant. A little while later,
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Speaker 4: the trio decides to leave the seasons in and they
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Speaker 4: end up at the home of doctor mckennie on Arkansas Creek.
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now is a very special guest is
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Speaker 1: Debbie Hall. This is Amber's cousin. Also with us the
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Speaker 1: family lawyer Mark Wolander. A. Debbie, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Would you say that Amber had been sheltered?
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Speaker 1: Did she lead a sheltered life. Had she dated a
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Speaker 1: lot of people.
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Speaker 6: She led a very sheltered life and I only know
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Speaker 6: her ever, hav her two boyfriends the whole time. She
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Speaker 6: had a lot of problems. Whenever she was in school
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Speaker 6: feeding in she got bullied a lot. She went from
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Speaker 6: school to school trying to find a place to see it.
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Speaker 6: And her grandparents really took care of her and protected her,
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Speaker 6: and they took her on trips. She didn't have a
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Speaker 6: big social life early on.
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Speaker 1: Why was she bullied? Debbie?
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Speaker 6: She had some emotional issues as far as some depression
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Speaker 6: and some anxiety, and she just had difficulty. She couldn't
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Speaker 6: understand if people were kidding with her, So she had
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Speaker 6: a little bit of trouble there. She was a little
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Speaker 6: socially awkward, I think, and kids were just rude and mean.
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Speaker 1: Did people bully her because she's chubby?
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Speaker 6: Yes?
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Speaker 7: I think that also.
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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace, you know, Dr Rathany, that
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Speaker 1: starts my heart so much to thank this this girl.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you've looked at her picture. She looks so
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Speaker 1: sweet and loving open to have been bullied and tormented
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Speaker 1: from one school to the next, and you're hearing Debbie Hall.
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Speaker 1: This is Amber's cousin talking about how the grandparents. I mean,
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Speaker 1: she's already lost her mother. Her grandparents tried to protect
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Speaker 1: her and shield her from bullies and then move her
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Speaker 1: from one school to the next. And then she spent
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Speaker 1: you know, her young adult years, you know, her in
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Speaker 1: her twenties, trying to take care of her grandparents. And
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Speaker 1: she finally gets out, gets an apartment and starts this
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Speaker 1: job at brickhouse. And now this, I mean, this girl
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Speaker 1: didn't have a chance, Dr Bethy. She's so naive. And
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Speaker 1: we had two boyfriends. Let me guess Debbie Hall was one,
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Speaker 1: like in high school, one of those boyfriends.
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Speaker 6: Shortly after high school, yes, whenever, She's just she'd gone
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Speaker 6: to a vocational school for a few months and met
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Speaker 6: one there. You know, Nancy, kids can be so cool,
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Speaker 6: can they? And trauma. I like the fact that our
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Speaker 6: behavioral expert brought up trauma in the arc that that
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Speaker 6: creates trauma presents as the kinds of things that can
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Speaker 6: lead to bullying.
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Speaker 1: Dr Bethany, I've got to tell you what happened, Okay,
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Speaker 1: tell me, Okay. So the children graduated from their elementary
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Speaker 1: school where they went to elementary and middle and they
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Speaker 1: were starting a big, a much bigger school. My son
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Speaker 1: knew a lot of people that had transferred to this
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Speaker 1: big school. My daughter went without any close friends at all.
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Speaker 1: She need practically zero. So she comes home one day
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Speaker 1: she goes, Mom, I have to get a Lululemon bag.
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Speaker 1: You know what Lululemon is. I bet you do a
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Speaker 1: Lemon and bears like one sports sprawl. It's like fifty dollars.
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Speaker 1: A pair of leggings like ninety dollars. And I said, Lucy,
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Speaker 1: why do we have to get a shot And she goes, Mom,
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Speaker 1: to get the bag. You have to buy something. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you do know that a pair of pants at Lulu
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Speaker 1: Limmon's like ninety dollars. Right, she goes, I got to
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Speaker 1: get a Lulu Limon bag. I'm like, honey, why And
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Speaker 1: she said, well, all the girls, if they don't eat
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Speaker 1: in the cafeteria, they bring their lunch in a Lululemon bag. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know when I went and paid ninety dollars for
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Speaker 1: a pair of whatever I paid, and you know, if
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Speaker 1: you could have seen, I made Lucy go in and
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Speaker 1: get it. She came out, she looked so down. Cash
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Speaker 1: she said, Mom, with the tax included, it was ninety
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Speaker 1: one dollars, said, Honey, don't worry, just enjoy that bag.
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Speaker 1: Enjoy that Lulu women baby. And do you know the
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Speaker 1: next day she had her little lunch in that Lulu
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Speaker 1: Leomon bag, and I just when I wish to pick
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Speaker 1: him up, I started looking around Bethany, and sure enough
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Speaker 1: I saw about eight or nine little girls enge couldn't
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Speaker 1: have been over the seventh grade, walking around proudly with
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Speaker 1: their Lulu Lemon bag on their shoulder. And I was
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Speaker 1: just thinking, she's not one to ever won a particular
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Speaker 1: label of clothing or tennis shoes or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: In fact, this is one of the few things she's
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Speaker 1: ever come out and actually asked for. But can you
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Speaker 1: imagine if this happened to Lucy, who likes she looks
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Speaker 1: like a cover model. She's perfect, she's got great grades.
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Speaker 1: And what would happen to Amber, who is socially awkward
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Speaker 1: and people make fun of her because she's chubby. Can
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Speaker 1: you even imagine what her life was like trying to
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Speaker 1: get through high school?
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Speaker 6: Yancy, the important role you played with Lucy that when
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Speaker 6: she wanted the bag instead of saying, well, why do
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Speaker 6: you want a beg? Why do you want to fit
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Speaker 6: in with everybody else? You knew as her mother, you
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Speaker 6: were attuned and you knew that she needed to be
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Speaker 6: to fit in. She needed to feel one of the
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Speaker 6: crowd and one of the girls, and you met that need.
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Speaker 6: But Lucy has a mother and Amber did not. She
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Speaker 6: lost her mother when she was three. She was raised
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Speaker 6: by her grandparents and that trauma, you know, it primed
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Speaker 6: her to lack social cueuing to not fit in with
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Speaker 6: other people. And then grandparents, you know, there are a
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Speaker 6: generation away. So maybe maybe grandparents wouldn't buy a Lululemon bag, right,
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Speaker 6: they might not know how to help Amber fit in.
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Speaker 6: I mean we could talk about this for dates.
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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, Dr Beth, and I'm sorry to
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Speaker 1: take everybody else down my rabbit hole. But as a
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Speaker 1: joke to John David, yeah, wait a minute, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: wait for it, he was obsessed with let's see, was
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Speaker 1: it buzz light Year or was it? Do you do
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Speaker 1: know who toe Mater is?
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Speaker 8: Right?
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Speaker 1: It's a race car out in McQueen. Yeah, but it's
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Speaker 1: toe Mater. He's a tow truck, get it? Okay? So
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Speaker 1: I think when he was starting the eighth grade. I
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Speaker 1: sent his lunch to school and a toe Ma lunchback
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Speaker 1: he had when he was about three. When he came home,
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Speaker 1: I found it stuffed down at the bottom of his
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Speaker 1: backpack and all the food was gone, but he had
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Speaker 1: hidn't it. It was a giant Did not do that again.
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Speaker 1: But yes, yes, it's very deep water that they're treading.
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Speaker 6: Well because you were involved in the nuances of what
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Speaker 6: would be a joke for John David to pack the
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Speaker 6: lunch in the tomato bag from when he was a
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Speaker 6: much younger child, and he in turned stuffed the bag
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Speaker 6: where you couldn't find it. I mean, but there's a
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Speaker 6: lot of social qu that goes back and forth between
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Speaker 6: a parent and a child, and when there's already a
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Speaker 6: generational difference, like Amber had with her grandparents, she missed
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Speaker 6: out on all those delightful potentially I mean, her cousin's
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Speaker 6: here on the panel, but all of these delightful experiences
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Speaker 6: that kids have with their own parents growing up. But
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Speaker 6: I want to say something about Amber. She and her
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Speaker 6: boss were really great friends. That tells you something about her.
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Speaker 1: But I wanted to address that right there, which led
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Speaker 1: me down the garden path. She had never really connected
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Speaker 1: with a lot of people in high school. She was
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Speaker 1: socially awkward, she had bullies. She went from high school
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Speaker 1: to high school to high school, which makes it really
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Speaker 1: hard to ever make close friends. And now she's at
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Speaker 1: this restaurant where she's working as a hostess, the Brick
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Speaker 1: House Restaurant, and the owner and co workers invite her
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Speaker 1: to go out after I mean, Debbie Hall, I bet
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Speaker 1: that was a big deal for her.
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Speaker 6: Oh, I'm sure it was. I'm sure she felt totally
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Speaker 6: safe and really excited to be included in Oh.
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Speaker 1: Man, that that just hurts me. That hurts me so much.
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Speaker 1: She was so excited to be asked out after her
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Speaker 1: shift at work. But then this take a list into
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Speaker 1: Lee cercy l e x eighteen.
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Speaker 9: In the early morning hours of Sunday, June eighteenth, Spradlin
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Speaker 9: had been hanging out with people she knew when they
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Speaker 9: ended up here at the home of a prominent local dentist.
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Speaker 9: At some point they tell us something terrible happened.
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Speaker 6: I just don't know what in.
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Speaker 3: The world would have gone so wrong to result in
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Speaker 3: what happened.
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Speaker 6: But there was a nine to one one call and
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Speaker 6: no one minute.
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Speaker 1: A nine to one one call. Why what happened? Take
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Speaker 1: a listen now to wo WUK want to say.
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Speaker 2: Sunday night, Kentucky State Police told them her body had
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Speaker 2: been found in another person's home along Arkansas Creek Road
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Speaker 2: in Martin. Kentucky State Police say they suspect foul play.
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Speaker 10: They don't know why it took first responders so long
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Speaker 10: to find her and help.
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Speaker 6: I just don't know what in the world would have
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Speaker 6: gone so wrong to result in what happened. But there
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Speaker 6: was a none to one one call and no one went.
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Speaker 10: The community has been calling the county's nine to one
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Speaker 10: one dispatch system into question since Amber's death. The attorney
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Speaker 10: says it took first responders hours to find Amber.
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Speaker 1: Forgotten, gone, but not forgotten. No cover up. I hear
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Speaker 1: horns beeping in the background. That's a protest. I don't
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Speaker 1: understand what's happening. Jeff Vanderbeck joining me. He's covered the
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Speaker 1: case at the very beginning there at the Floyd County
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Speaker 1: Chronicle dot Com. I don't understand. Nila woy was called,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't show up. What happened?
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Speaker 5: Well, we can't get copies of the nine one one obviously,
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Speaker 5: because it's still an investigation and active investigation by Kentucky
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Speaker 5: State Police, but we are under the impression that there
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Speaker 5: was a nine to one call made from the doctor's house.
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Speaker 5: We don't know who made that call, and we don't
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Speaker 5: know exactly what happened during that call, but apparently there
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Speaker 5: was I'm not sure the exact time of that call,
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Speaker 5: but there was definitely a call made to the nine
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Speaker 5: one one center early morning, and then apparently there's another
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Speaker 5: one four hours later requesting services at that particular.
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Speaker 1: Time for our delay, Guys, you're hearing Jeff Vanderbeck joining
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Speaker 1: us from Appalachian Newspapers. Ain't in Floyd County Chronicle four
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Speaker 1: hours Well, that doesn't make any sense to me. And
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Speaker 1: right there at the end, guys, you were hold on,
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Speaker 1: Do I hear you jumping in? Jeff? Go ahead, Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Let me clarify that there was a call made in
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Speaker 5: the morning, early hours, and we, like I said, we
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Speaker 5: don't have we can't get copies of those calls, but
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Speaker 5: we do know that while that call was made, they
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Speaker 5: did call that off. They whoever they is or they are,
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Speaker 5: called it off, and somebody at the nine one one
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Speaker 5: made a decision to say that there was no nothing
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Speaker 5: important or eminent happening at that particular time. And then,
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Speaker 5: according to our resources and our sources, several hours later,
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Speaker 5: another nine one one call was made at that particular time,
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Speaker 5: and that's when that's when authorities were dispatched.
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Speaker 1: That clarified a lah Jeff Vanderbeck, there was a nine
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Speaker 1: on one call and then someone called back pretty quickly
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Speaker 1: went oh, never mind, it's all fine.
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Speaker 5: It was the same call during the same day. Now,
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Speaker 5: we did do an open records request to get any
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Speaker 5: copies of a nine one one call made by Amber
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Speaker 5: Amber or her cell phone, and according to the authorities,
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Speaker 5: that call does not exist. So there was no call
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Speaker 5: made by Amber to the nine one one center. But
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Speaker 5: we do know that there was a call made by somebody.
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Speaker 5: We're trying to ascertain if that was from doctor mckinniey's
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Speaker 5: house or somebody at the house, or if in fact
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Speaker 5: doctor McKinney himself called, or who called. But we don't
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Speaker 5: know exact that because Kentucky Press Kentucky State Police has
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Speaker 5: not released that and they will not release that information
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Speaker 5: until the investigation is over.
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Speaker 1: So, guys, you're hearing Jeff Vanderbeck from Applation newspapers. So
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Speaker 1: there's a call. Then whoever calls also says, okay, wit,
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Speaker 1: you know what, never mind, everything's fine. Four hours pass
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Speaker 1: and there's another call. You were also hearing our friends
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Speaker 1: at whas Now take a listen to our friends at WYMT.
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Speaker 11: KSP investigators say they were called to a home in
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Speaker 11: the Arkansas Creek area, just outside Martin. State Police say
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Speaker 11: their initial investigation thirty nine year old Amber Spradlin of
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Speaker 11: Prestonsburg had suffered life threatening injuries. KSP says she was
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Speaker 11: pronounced dead at the scene by the Floyd County Corner's Office.
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Speaker 11: Investigators do suspect foul play in this case. There's no
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Speaker 11: word on any suspects at this time.
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Speaker 2: Amber Spadland's loved ones were emotional as they gave details
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Speaker 2: on how she died.
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Speaker 3: She was stabbed at least eleven times in her head,
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Speaker 3: her neck, and her throat. I can't imagine what she
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Speaker 3: was going through and how she was feeling.
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Speaker 2: But that's not all they shared Thursday afternoon during a
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Speaker 2: press conference outside of the Floyd County Courthouse. Some members
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Speaker 2: of the community who were there to show support Thursday
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Speaker 2: have questioned how long it's taken to figure out what
21:45
Speaker 2: happened at a home in Martin.
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Speaker 1: Eleven stab wounds in the head, the neck, and the throat.
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Speaker 1: This young woman murdered. One nine one one call was
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Speaker 1: followed by an oh, don't bother. Four hours later, another
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Speaker 1: nine on one call is made. Debbie Hall is joining us.
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Speaker 1: This is Amber's cousin. Tell me one thing, Debbie in
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Speaker 1: whose home was Amber found dead?
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Speaker 6: Doctor Michael McKinney, the dentist here in Pressburg, and he's
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Speaker 6: also the owner of the Brick House restaurant.
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Speaker 1: What about it? Doctor Michelle Dupree joining us. Renowned forensic pathologists,
22:26
Speaker 1: medical examiner, or former detective. You can find her at
22:29
Speaker 1: Dmichelle dupremd dot com. Eleven stab wounds to the neck,
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Speaker 1: the face, the throat.
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Speaker 6: Nancy, this was rage. I mean again, this is something personal.
22:40
Speaker 6: We often find that, especially sharp force injuries are personal.
22:43
Speaker 6: You have to be up close, I mean touching that person.
22:47
Speaker 6: You know. Again, it's not like firing a gun from
22:50
Speaker 6: across the room. This is personal. This was rage.
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Speaker 1: Stab wounds to the face. Dr Bethony Marshall, that's got
22:57
Speaker 1: to mean something. I mean, I'm just a trial lawyer.
23:00
Speaker 1: You're the strength but stabs to the face.
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Speaker 6: Well, Nancy, I mean to pegback on what doctor Michelle
23:07
Speaker 6: DePree said. This was rage. It was up close and personal.
23:10
Speaker 6: What happened interpersonally? You know, the thoughts that come to mind,
23:15
Speaker 6: is she knew something or discovered something that made the
23:18
Speaker 6: other person in rage. Perhaps there was methanthetamine involved, because
23:23
Speaker 6: when I think of this kind of overkill I think
23:26
Speaker 6: of drug activity. That I'm not saying that Amber was
23:29
Speaker 6: using drugs, but the perpetrator may have been, because this
23:33
Speaker 6: kind of overkill is really usually caused by drugs that
23:37
Speaker 6: propel energy and activity and mania. I'm also wondering, you know,
23:43
Speaker 6: I keep thinking about discovery. Did she know something that
23:48
Speaker 6: the other person didn't want her to know and that
23:51
Speaker 6: came out over the course of the evening. She was
23:53
Speaker 6: with a group of people that went from place to place.
23:57
Speaker 6: What transpired she was with that group, What were they
24:01
Speaker 6: talking about? What came to light? What did they experience?
24:05
Speaker 6: You know, something happened in that milieu that ended up
24:10
Speaker 6: in this horrible, horrible murder in the dentist's home.
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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting too, Mark Wolander joining us. This
24:18
Speaker 1: is a family lawyer, ultimately familiar with the facts as
24:23
Speaker 1: we know them right now, and nearly not every but
24:26
Speaker 1: nearly every bit of research I found on Amber's murder,
24:31
Speaker 1: no one ever mentions that she's found in the home
24:36
Speaker 1: of this prominent dentist, Nancy.
24:38
Speaker 8: That's correct. The State Police didn't put out any of
24:40
Speaker 8: that information until we held our press conference, and I
24:45
Speaker 8: think the State Police, for all good reasons, has been
24:48
Speaker 8: holding back on a lot of information they have. In particular,
24:52
Speaker 8: there's been a lot of calls that the State Police
24:54
Speaker 8: are covering something up, but very candidly, anybody that's ever
24:58
Speaker 8: been involved in a case like this knows that the
25:02
Speaker 8: amount of blood that's at the scene, and we know
25:04
Speaker 8: that there was at least one other person that was
25:06
Speaker 8: cut at the scene, it's going to take them a
25:08
Speaker 8: long time to sort through the DNA, although I will
25:11
Speaker 8: say that I have been assured by the captain at
25:15
Speaker 8: the State Police post that the laboratory in Frankfurt has
25:18
Speaker 8: moved Amber's case to the front of the line and
25:21
Speaker 8: they are working diligently to figure out whose DNA was
25:25
Speaker 8: in that house that morning.
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Speaker 1: Let me understand something, how do you know someone else
25:29
Speaker 1: was cut at the scene, and if where on their
25:31
Speaker 1: body were they cut?
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Speaker 8: Do you know, Nancy, We know that from the information
25:35
Speaker 8: that's been put out there, and we know that the
25:38
Speaker 8: person that was cut. The other person that was cut
25:40
Speaker 8: was Roy Kidd, and we don't know whether or not
25:44
Speaker 8: in how he got cut, but we know that he
25:46
Speaker 8: bled and that his blood probably more than likely was
25:50
Speaker 8: mixed in with the Amber's blood at the scene. So
25:53
Speaker 8: I mean, at the end of the day, I think
25:55
Speaker 8: we I've talked to the family and I've talked to
25:57
Speaker 8: the investigators about this, but we're all patiently waiting to
26:00
Speaker 8: make sure that when an arrest is made, the arrest
26:03
Speaker 8: is made of the right individual or individuals who were involved.
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Speaker 1: Debbie Hall, the cousin of Amber Spratland, do you know
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Speaker 1: where on his body Roy Kid was cut?
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Speaker 7: I do not.
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious was it on his hand, which would
26:17
Speaker 1: be very interesting. He has not been named a person
26:21
Speaker 1: of interest or a defendant suspect in this case. I
26:25
Speaker 1: have seen many, many times when there is a multiple
26:29
Speaker 1: stabbing murder victim that the purp has a cut on
26:34
Speaker 1: their hand where their hand goes down the knife in
26:36
Speaker 1: the middle of the stab. Speaking of DNA the crime scene,
26:40
Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at wh ASNWWK.
26:44
Speaker 10: Kentucky State Police is working the case, but staying tight lipped.
26:48
Speaker 10: The family's attorney believes they have their suspect, but because
26:51
Speaker 10: the crime scene was so gruesome, DNA evidence has been
26:55
Speaker 10: difficult to separate.
26:56
Speaker 1: In the lab.
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Speaker 8: There was blood everywhere, and there was blood that was
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Speaker 8: mixed with other blood and other DNA family safe.
27:03
Speaker 1: They don't know why anyone would want to hurt her.
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Speaker 2: Amber Spradland, known for her generous heart, is now being
27:09
Speaker 2: mourned by those who loved her so much.
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Speaker 1: I'm davis cited because she was a wonderful person, a
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Speaker 1: lover and I really really is.
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Speaker 2: Their troopers haven't said who the home belonged to, and
27:20
Speaker 2: with so many questions unanswered right now, her family says
27:24
Speaker 2: there's one thing they're certain of.
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Speaker 6: If there is FI apply, I hope who waver it
27:28
Speaker 6: is brought to justice because she did.
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Speaker 1: Not deserve this. I'm not quite sure where why they're
27:34
Speaker 1: not saying what The family is telling us that Amber
27:38
Speaker 1: was found stabbed eleven times at the home of a
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Speaker 1: prominent dentist in the early early morning hours. Doctor Michael
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Speaker 1: McIntire is that his name, Debbie.
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Speaker 6: Hall McKinnie, Michael McKinney.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Michael McKinney, a dentist. But I do
27:57
Speaker 1: know this, I know the lawyer, veterans trial lawyer on
28:02
Speaker 1: my ad might Mark Wilanders says the family is waiting
28:06
Speaker 1: patiently for answers. I'm not so sure that I agree
28:11
Speaker 1: with that. Take a listen to our friends at wsa
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Speaker 1: Z three.
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Speaker 12: First and I loved ones of a woman found dead
28:17
Speaker 12: and Floyd County on Sunday are just praying for justice
28:20
Speaker 12: at this point. Kentucky State Police say Amber Spradlin was
28:23
Speaker 12: found dead on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: Foul play is suspected.
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Speaker 12: Investigators have not shared many details about the case or
28:29
Speaker 12: said whether they have any suspects or suspect in mind officially.
28:35
Speaker 12: New Channel three's Andrew Colgrove spoke with relatives of the victim,
28:38
Speaker 12: determined to keep a light on the case until a
28:40
Speaker 12: killer is behind bars.
28:43
Speaker 1: Once her body is buried, this other stuff is not
28:47
Speaker 1: buried and more.
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Speaker 13: Family of Amber Spradlin grieving and furious she was.
28:54
Speaker 1: Just getting started with her life.
28:57
Speaker 13: The thirty nine year old's uncle and aunt knew something
28:59
Speaker 13: was wrong on Sunday when they were unable to reach her.
29:02
Speaker 1: I was driving be before. We're trying to look for
29:04
Speaker 1: a car.
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Speaker 4: Their worst fear realized.
29:06
Speaker 1: It was like dashing the bucket of cold water over me.
29:10
Speaker 1: It fell. I instantly went into a nightmare.
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Speaker 13: Kentucky State Police say Amber was found dead at a
29:16
Speaker 13: home along Arkansas Creek in the town of Martin, and
29:19
Speaker 13: investigator suspects foul play.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, let me understand something, Jeff
29:42
Speaker 1: Vanderbeek joining US publisher Appalachian Newspapers. How far away is
29:48
Speaker 1: the dentist Michael McKinney's home from the brick House restaurant
29:53
Speaker 1: where Amber worked as a hostess.
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure the exact mileage, but you know, Martin
29:58
Speaker 5: of Kentucky, which is where I believe he lives, the
30:02
Speaker 5: city of Martin, and a downtown restaurant there are probably
30:06
Speaker 5: ten fifteen minutes away from each other. So it's not
30:10
Speaker 5: a very far thing. And as far as you know,
30:13
Speaker 5: the comment you made before about you know KSP, you know,
30:16
Speaker 5: not releasing stuff.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a high.
30:18
Speaker 5: Profile case in eastern Kentucky, and you know there's got
30:23
Speaker 5: to be due process, and I'm sure the like Wolanders
30:26
Speaker 5: said before, you know, I'm sure all the t'ser crossed
30:31
Speaker 5: and the eyes are dotted before anything happens, and that's
30:33
Speaker 5: why everybody's being tight lipped as far as what happens.
30:35
Speaker 5: And the bottom line is that we and what nobody
30:39
Speaker 5: is mentioning is that there is a killer on the
30:42
Speaker 5: loose in Prestonsburg right now in Floyd County, Kentucky. There
30:45
Speaker 5: is a killer on the loose or killers on the loose.
30:48
Speaker 5: We have not solved that problem and that needs to
30:50
Speaker 5: be addressed immediately because we need to make sure that
30:53
Speaker 5: our communities are safe, because that's what that's what's being
30:56
Speaker 5: overlooked at this time. In addition, and regardless of this
31:00
Speaker 5: whole thing, you know, yes, the nine one one call
31:03
Speaker 5: was a or the nine one one situation needs to
31:06
Speaker 5: be addressed. But the bottom line is that there's still
31:08
Speaker 5: a killer loose in our community and somebody needs to
31:11
Speaker 5: do something about it.
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Speaker 1: And you know what to Robin Drake, joining US behavior
31:14
Speaker 1: expert former FBI and the Counterintelligence Behavior Analysis Program, there
31:19
Speaker 1: is something very unique and man I say, very twisted
31:24
Speaker 1: about not only a killer, but a killer that uses
31:28
Speaker 1: a knife as a weapon. It's a lot different scenarios
31:32
Speaker 1: a whole other can of worms. And let's just say
31:35
Speaker 1: a snipe or the shootes is the victim at a distance,
31:38
Speaker 1: very little contact, and not only murdered by knife, but
31:42
Speaker 1: eleven stab wounds to this girl's face, neck and head.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, like I said earlier, it's highly personal, it's highly violent,
31:52
Speaker 14: a lot of energy behind it. And the other thing
31:55
Speaker 14: that's been striking me here too is so they call
31:57
Speaker 14: nine one one and no one shows up. Why wouldn't
32:00
Speaker 14: anyone bring her to the hospital in a car? I mean,
32:04
Speaker 14: you have people on seeing supposedly at least someone was
32:08
Speaker 14: that called nine to one one. When they didn't show up,
32:10
Speaker 14: why not put her in a car and move, Go,
32:12
Speaker 14: do something, take action. That's what's really surprising, one of
32:16
Speaker 14: the many surprising things in this entire situation. And as
32:21
Speaker 14: her cousin was saying earlier, too, live in a life
32:24
Speaker 14: in isolation where you're taking care of your wonderful grandparents
32:28
Speaker 14: that have raised you. She lacked a lot of social
32:30
Speaker 14: reps too, so she might not have been able to
32:33
Speaker 14: really keew in on unsafe situations from individuals, and that
32:39
Speaker 14: she's surrounded by possibly.
32:41
Speaker 1: You know what, that's a really good point. She had
32:43
Speaker 1: led this very You know, this woman Amber is only
32:46
Speaker 1: four to eleven, she is very diminutive. She's been socially
32:53
Speaker 1: awkward to her whole life. She was bullied in school,
32:56
Speaker 1: went from one school to the next, socially awkward. And
33:00
Speaker 1: how excited do you believe she was to get invited
33:03
Speaker 1: out after work by a prominent dentist who owned the
33:07
Speaker 1: brickhouse restaurant where she worked and coworkers. How fun would
33:11
Speaker 1: that be? And just imagine this is late at night,
33:14
Speaker 1: after the restaurant closes, they go out and somehow she
33:19
Speaker 1: ends up dead with eleven stab wounds. Now I agree,
33:23
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, any of you on the panel.
33:26
Speaker 1: I prosecuted and investigated thousands of cases. I understand holding
33:31
Speaker 1: things close to the vest It's not to somehow impewe
33:35
Speaker 1: the integrity of the investigation. But to not even release
33:39
Speaker 1: the location of the crime, that's very unusual in my mind.
33:46
Speaker 1: Take a listen to more. This is Shane McAllister, whas.
33:52
Speaker 10: According to state beliefs, the thirty nine year old was
33:54
Speaker 10: found dead in a home on Arkansas Creek earlier this month.
33:58
Speaker 10: That's about four and a half hours from the in
34:00
Speaker 10: Floyd County Kentucky. Kentucky State Police troopers confirmed she had
34:04
Speaker 10: life threatening injuries and they do suspect foul play, meaning
34:07
Speaker 10: they're working it as a homicide investigation. Well, today the
34:11
Speaker 10: victims family is asking for support as they go on
34:14
Speaker 10: ten days without an arrest in the case and without
34:17
Speaker 10: answers as to why it took so long for the
34:19
Speaker 10: nine one one call to be heard.
34:21
Speaker 1: I'm very curious too, we keep focusing, as Jeff Vanderbick
34:24
Speaker 1: pointed out about the whole nine one one system being
34:27
Speaker 1: screwed up. I'm also questioning why wasn't she taken to
34:33
Speaker 1: the hospital, Nancy.
34:34
Speaker 5: If I might this is Jeff Anderbick, if I might
34:36
Speaker 5: say something that were the assumption is that the initial
34:40
Speaker 5: nine one one call was made and said, hey, there's
34:45
Speaker 5: a there's somebody hurt here. We don't know that for
34:48
Speaker 5: a fact. We don't know anything about it because the
34:50
Speaker 5: nine one one call was not released, So we don't
34:53
Speaker 5: know what that nine one one call was all about.
34:54
Speaker 5: We don't know if it was because somebody was injured.
34:57
Speaker 5: We don't know if it was because Amber was in danger.
35:01
Speaker 5: We don't know anything about that nine one one call
35:03
Speaker 5: because the tape was not released. So if the nine
35:07
Speaker 5: one one call came in, the initial nine one one
35:09
Speaker 5: call came in, it was completely nothing regarding Amber, then
35:13
Speaker 5: the whole point of this whole thing is a moot point.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Vanderbank, really you really think that there
35:20
Speaker 1: were two life threatening situations in one night, in the
35:25
Speaker 1: space of four hours at one residence.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, based upon the brutality of the act,
35:32
Speaker 5: of the alleged act, and based upon what we know
35:37
Speaker 5: so far, people were not thinking in their right mind.
35:41
Speaker 5: And I'm there's a lot of information that I'm being told.
35:45
Speaker 1: Are you saying somebody was on drugs?
35:47
Speaker 5: I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying anything to that response.
35:50
Speaker 1: Regards and frankly, Jeff Vanderbeck, I don't care if people
35:53
Speaker 1: were not thinking in their right mind because if it
35:56
Speaker 1: is drugs of isbooze? Voluntary use of drugs? Are alcohol?
36:00
Speaker 1: Are not a defense? If it's panicking, Jeff Vanderbick, don't care.
36:03
Speaker 1: People always panic when somebody's been stabbed eleven times in
36:06
Speaker 1: the vase. I guess, so, I guess they were out
36:09
Speaker 1: of their mind. But that does not change that a
36:12
Speaker 1: killer is walking free. And in that vein, Jeff, I
36:17
Speaker 1: want to go to doctor Michelle dupree. Can you tell
36:20
Speaker 1: by the temperature of the body, the degree of rigor
36:25
Speaker 1: or liver or mortis, and the coagulation of blood on
36:30
Speaker 1: and around the body how long the victim has been dead.
36:34
Speaker 1: I'm just curious how long this beautiful girl, Amber Scradlin
36:39
Speaker 1: lay there dead before anybody went yeah, you know what,
36:43
Speaker 1: let's do call nine to one one.
36:44
Speaker 6: Yes, Nancy, of course you can get an estimate, but
36:47
Speaker 6: it's always an estimate, you know, it's not like on
36:49
Speaker 6: TV they died at nine thirty seven. So yeah, she
36:52
Speaker 6: can get an estimate within a few hours. I'm not
36:55
Speaker 6: sure how much help that would be here.
36:57
Speaker 1: Well, am I helping a lot? And then there are
36:59
Speaker 1: extrends met ways to other than the condition of the
37:03
Speaker 1: body to determine the time of the death, Like did
37:07
Speaker 1: ambersend a text? Did Amber make a phone call? Did
37:09
Speaker 1: Amber post something? Is there anything? Can we see movement
37:13
Speaker 1: on her phone, whether it was her using the phone
37:16
Speaker 1: or not. Can we see movement around the home. A
37:21
Speaker 1: lot of extrinsic evidence can indicate the time of death,
37:25
Speaker 1: and as you say, not specifically, but close to the
37:30
Speaker 1: time of death, guys, take a listen now to our
37:34
Speaker 1: cut twelve flee Kenny.
37:36
Speaker 2: Fiscal Court documents say in December twenty twenty two, the
37:39
Speaker 2: decision to move the call center from the Kentucky State
37:41
Speaker 2: Police Post to the city of Prestonsburg was because of
37:44
Speaker 2: an increase in service.
37:45
Speaker 6: Piece.
37:46
Speaker 2: Now they've launched a petition to move the call center
37:49
Speaker 2: back to the Kentucky State Police Post. A family heartbroken,
37:54
Speaker 2: wanting answers and changes, but willing to be patient until
37:57
Speaker 2: investigators have all the pieces to this puzzle.
38:00
Speaker 1: WI Hall. Let me understand. So, at first is believed
38:03
Speaker 1: that the call went to one nine one one center
38:06
Speaker 1: and they didn't respond. Then four hours later there is
38:09
Speaker 1: a response. But now I'm learning after that first nine
38:12
Speaker 1: on one call there was an immediate follow up saying yeah,
38:16
Speaker 1: you know what, never mind, don't come. So does that
38:19
Speaker 1: really have anything to do with the changing of the
38:22
Speaker 1: nine one one call center.
38:23
Speaker 7: I I'm not sure. I do know that in the
38:27
Speaker 7: past the KSP has handled the none one one calls,
38:33
Speaker 7: and I do not know of any problems like this
38:36
Speaker 7: that have come about.
38:37
Speaker 1: Okay, what about it, Martin, Wellander, Well, Nancy, let's get
38:40
Speaker 1: back to the first call.
38:41
Speaker 8: About five o'clock in the morning. We believe that that
38:44
Speaker 8: was one call and that two people got out of
38:46
Speaker 8: the phone at least what we're hearing, and the first
38:49
Speaker 8: person said, we have a fight going on out here.
38:51
Speaker 8: That's what I've learned from comments made by Mayor Les Stapleton.
38:54
Speaker 8: And then somebody else picked up the phone and said, no,
38:57
Speaker 8: everything's under control. You don't need to send anybody out.
39:00
Speaker 8: And so, you know, the question is is did they
39:03
Speaker 8: even follow the protocol that they put together when they
39:05
Speaker 8: entered into this agreement. The agreement said that if you
39:08
Speaker 8: have calls out in the county, the dispatch was responsible
39:11
Speaker 8: for their contacting the Kentucky State Police or the Floyd
39:14
Speaker 8: County Sheriff's Department to send them out to see what
39:17
Speaker 8: was going on at these types of calls. So nobody
39:19
Speaker 8: came at five o'clock in the morning. And then the
39:22
Speaker 8: question is is who all was responsible for killing Amber?
39:27
Speaker 8: From what I understand from what I've been told, there
39:29
Speaker 8: were no defensive wounds on her arms, and so the
39:32
Speaker 8: question that I have did somebody hold her down? Where
39:35
Speaker 8: there are two people involved in the murder? And then
39:37
Speaker 8: the real question that nobody's really addressed is what happened
39:41
Speaker 8: between five o'clock and ten o'clock when they came out.
39:44
Speaker 8: Did the people at the house, doctor McKinney, his son,
39:48
Speaker 8: Mike Roy Kidd, and anybody else was there. Did they
39:50
Speaker 8: spend those four hours trying to clean up the crime scene?
39:53
Speaker 8: And that's important. So, yes, the nine to one one
39:56
Speaker 8: center being moved to the city of Prestonsburg. When the
40:00
Speaker 8: Kentucky State Police had twelve troopers assigned to cover nine
40:04
Speaker 8: one one calls in Floyd County, they're no longer assigned
40:06
Speaker 8: to Floyd County because of what Mayor Les Stapleton and
40:10
Speaker 8: the Judge Executive Robbie Williams has done in this case,
40:13
Speaker 8: and all that we hear from them twenty five days
40:16
Speaker 8: later is instead of trying to address this issue, the
40:19
Speaker 8: only thing that they've done up till now is Robbie Williams,
40:22
Speaker 8: the county judge executive, he held a special meeting to
40:25
Speaker 8: get approval to hire a big law firm in Lexington, Kentucky,
40:29
Speaker 8: to fight any civil suit that may come down the road.
40:32
Speaker 1: Well, they're worried about a civil suit when the killer
40:36
Speaker 1: has not been apprehended. Let me ask you a question.
40:38
Speaker 1: To your understanding, mort Rolllander, how many people were in
40:43
Speaker 1: the quote prominent dentist home the night of the murder?
40:47
Speaker 8: As far as we know right now, there were at
40:49
Speaker 8: least five people in the house. I know the names
40:52
Speaker 8: of three of them. I don't know the names of
40:54
Speaker 8: the other two, but there may have been others there.
40:57
Speaker 8: Since we've had the press conference, we continue to get
41:00
Speaker 8: emails and text messages from people in the community that
41:02
Speaker 8: have been sending us information that we have been then
41:04
Speaker 8: passing on to the state police. But at least three
41:08
Speaker 8: that we know of, because we know that doctor McKinney
41:11
Speaker 8: was there, and we know that his son MK was there,
41:14
Speaker 8: and we also know that Roy Kid was there, and
41:17
Speaker 8: we know that from information that's been passed on through sources.
41:21
Speaker 1: As of right now, no person of interest, no suspect,
41:24
Speaker 1: no defendant. And my question is, nearly one month later,
41:29
Speaker 1: why the.
41:30
Speaker 8: Bigger question is is who cleaned up the crime scene?
41:33
Speaker 8: Who else was involved? Amber The murder was so violent
41:38
Speaker 8: that somebody had to be holding her down. And Debbie,
41:41
Speaker 8: you're here, and I don't want to make this difficult
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Speaker 8: on you, but from what you described, her head must
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Speaker 8: have moved back and forth, back and forth when the
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Speaker 8: knife wounds were being pressed into her, and the wound
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Speaker 8: that we think wi I'm going to stop me if
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Speaker 8: you don't want to hear this. But the wound that
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Speaker 8: we think was the was the death wound, was the
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Speaker 8: knife wound from the front of her throat that severed
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Speaker 8: her spine. And so the other wounds were still still happening,
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Speaker 8: and then one of the wounds they broke off. The
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Speaker 8: they broke off the knife in her temple. So I mean,
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Speaker 8: it's pretty bad, it's pretty vicious.
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Speaker 14: So again, five people in a house, why didn't someone
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Speaker 14: do something?
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Speaker 8: That's the question, and that's what I think they're waiting
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Speaker 8: for the for the DNA. There was DNA that or
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Speaker 8: there was blood that went through the hallway upstairs, and
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Speaker 8: there was a bag of bloody costs that we think
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Speaker 8: was from blood from Roy Kidd.
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Speaker 1: No person of interest, no suspect, no defendant. If you
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Speaker 1: have information on who murdered this young woman, Amber Spradlin,
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Speaker 1: let your voice be heard. Tip line six zero six
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Speaker 1: nine four nine twenty twenty. Repeat six zero six nine
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Speaker 1: four nine twenty twenty. Her family is waiting for justice. Goodbye, friend,