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How to Turn Holiday Inspriation into a Children's Book (Santa's Simon Story) · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 5:37
  Fantastic.
• 5:38
  So
• 5:38
  thank
• 5:39
  you,
• 5:39
  Terry,
• 5:39
  for
• 5:39
  joining
• 5:40
  me
• 5:40
  today
• 5:40
  on
• 5:40
  the
• 5:41
  Adventures
• 5:41
  in
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  Heart
• 5:42
  of
• 5:42
  Children's
• 5:43
  Book
• 5:43
  Authors
• 5:44
  podcast.
• 5:44
  It's
• 5:44
  a
• 5:44
  real
• 5:45
  pleasure
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  have
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  here.
• 5:46
  Thank
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  for
• 5:47
  inviting
• 5:47
  me
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  I'm
• 5:48
  honored
• 5:48
  to
• 5:48
  be
• 5:49
  on
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  guest
• 5:50
  on
• 5:50
  your
• 5:50
  podcast.
• 5:51
  Awesome.
• 5:52
  Thank
• 5:52
  you.
• 5:53
  So,
• 5:54
  just
• 5:54
  jumping
• 5:54
  right
• 5:55
  in,
• 5:55
  can
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  tell
• 5:56
  us,
• 5:56
  first
• 5:56
  of
• 5:57
  all,
• 5:57
  we're
• 5:57
  talking
• 5:57
  about
• 5:58
  your
• 5:59
  book.
• 6:00
  And
• 6:00
  for
• 6:01
  those
• 6:01
  who
• 6:01
  don't
• 6:01
  know,
• 6:02
  Terry's
• 6:03
  book
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  right
• 6:03
  over
• 6:04
  here.
• 6:04
  Can
• 6:04
  you
• 6:04
  see
• 6:05
  it,
• 6:05
  Terry?
• 6:06
  I
• 6:06
  can.
• 6:06
  Thank
• 6:07
  you.
• 6:07
  So
• 6:08
  Santa
• 6:08
  Simon
• 6:08
  is
• 6:09
  Terry's
• 6:09
  book,
• 6:10
  and
• 6:11
  we're
• 6:11
  going
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  talk
• 6:11
  about
• 6:12
  that
• 6:12
  and
• 6:12
  get
• 6:12
  into
• 6:13
  all
• 6:13
  the
• 6:14
  nuances
• 6:14
  of
• 6:15
  Terry's
• 6:15
  secrets
• 6:16
  behind
• 6:16
  becoming
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  children's
• 6:17
  book
• 6:18
  author.
• 6:18
  So
• 6:19
  tell
• 6:19
  us
• 6:19
  a
• 6:19
  little
• 6:20
  bit
• 6:20
  about
• 6:20
  your
• 6:21
  inspiration
• 6:22
  and,
• 6:22
  like,
• 6:23
  your
• 6:23
  origin
• 6:24
  story
• 6:24
  behind
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  your
• 6:25
  book,
• 6:25
  Santa
• 6:26
  Simon.
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  Okay.
• 6:27
  So
• 6:27
  Santa
• 6:28
  Simon
• 6:28
  has
• 6:28
  been
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  a
• 6:29
  work
• 6:29
  in
• 6:29
  progress
• 6:30
  for
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  very
• 6:31
  long
• 6:31
  time.
• 6:32
  As
• 6:32
  a
• 6:32
  child,
• 6:33
  I
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  always
• 6:34
  liked
• 6:34
  to
• 6:34
  write.
• 6:35
  So
• 6:35
  I've
• 6:35
  been
• 6:35
  a
• 6:35
  writer
• 6:36
  pretty
• 6:36
  much
• 6:36
  all
• 6:36
  my
• 6:37
  life.
• 6:37
  In
• 6:38
  elementary
• 6:39
  school,
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  wrote
• 6:40
  short
• 6:41
  stories,
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  love
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  write
• 6:42
  poetry
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  has
• 6:44
  never
• 6:44
  left
• 6:44
  me.
• 6:45
  And
• 6:45
  as
• 6:45
  I
• 6:46
  grew
• 6:46
  into
• 6:46
  middle
• 6:47
  school
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  then
• 6:47
  high
• 6:47
  school,
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  still
• 6:49
  continued
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  write.
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  didn't
• 6:51
  really
• 6:51
  think
• 6:52
  about
• 6:52
  publishing
• 6:53
  so
• 6:53
  much.
• 6:53
  It
• 6:53
  was
• 6:54
  more
• 6:54
  like
• 6:54
  school
• 6:54
  newspaper,
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  think
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  had
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  poem
• 6:57
  or
• 6:57
  two
• 6:57
  published,
• 6:58
  grew
• 6:58
  in
• 6:58
  high
• 6:58
  school.
• 6:59
  And
• 7:00
  I
• 7:01
  did
• 7:01
  always
• 7:02
  know
• 7:02
  I
• 7:02
  wanted
• 7:02
  to
• 7:02
  be
• 7:03
  a
• 7:03
  teacher
• 7:03
  pretty
• 7:03
  much.
• 7:04
  And
• 7:04
  so
• 7:05
  that
• 7:05
  was
• 7:05
  my
• 7:05
  pursuit
• 7:06
  when
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  graduated
• 7:07
  from
• 7:07
  high
• 7:07
  school
• 7:07
  was
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  go
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  to
• 7:09
  college
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  and
• 7:10
  get
• 7:10
  certified
• 7:10
  as
• 7:11
  an
• 7:11
  elementary
• 7:11
  teacher.
• 7:13
  But
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  also
• 7:14
  did
• 7:14
  a
• 7:14
  secondary.
• 7:15
  My
• 7:15
  major
• 7:16
  actually
• 7:16
  was
• 7:16
  English.
• 7:17
  So
• 7:18
  that
• 7:19
  whole
• 7:19
  love
• 7:19
  of
• 7:20
  language
• 7:20
  and
• 7:21
  love
• 7:21
  of
• 7:21
  words
• 7:22
  and
• 7:23
  writing
• 7:24
  continued.
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  And
• 7:25
  then
• 7:25
  at
• 7:26
  one
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  point
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  I
• 7:27
  decided,
• 7:27
  you
• 7:27
  know
• 7:28
  what
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  really
• 7:28
  would
• 7:29
  like
• 7:29
  to
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  try.
• 7:30
  This
• 7:30
  was
• 7:30
  before
• 7:30
  I
• 7:31
  really
• 7:31
  got
• 7:31
  full
• 7:32
  bored
• 7:32
  into
• 7:32
  teaching,
• 7:33
  but
• 7:33
  I
• 7:34
  would
• 7:34
  really
• 7:34
  like
• 7:34
  to
• 7:35
  try
• 7:35
  being
• 7:35
  an
• 7:35
  author
• 7:36
  and
• 7:36
  writing
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  children's
• 7:37
  book.
• 7:38
  So
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  had
• 7:38
  a
• 7:38
  manuscript
• 7:39
  I
• 7:39
  was
• 7:39
  working
• 7:40
  on,
• 7:40
  which
• 7:40
  was
• 7:40
  Santa
• 7:41
  Simon.
• 7:42
  How
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  long
• 7:42
  ago
• 7:42
  was
• 7:43
  that?
• 7:43
  This
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  seed
• 7:44
  kind
• 7:44
  of
• 7:44
  got
• 7:44
  or
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  snowflake
• 7:46
  or
• 7:46
  whatever
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  want
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  call
• 7:46
  it.
• 7:48
  Snowflake
• 7:49
  is
• 7:49
  a
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  good
• 7:51
  or
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  good
• 7:51
  phrase
• 7:52
  for
• 7:52
  it.
• 7:52
  Now,
• 7:53
  this
• 7:53
  goes
• 7:54
  back
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  really
• 7:54
  long
• 7:55
  time.
• 7:55
  I'm
• 7:55
  talking
• 7:55
  about
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  early
• 7:56
  1980s.
• 7:57
  Wow.
• 7:58
  Yeah.
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  The
• 7:59
  long
• 7:59
  and
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  short
• 8:00
  of
• 8:00
  it
• 8:00
  is
• 8:00
  as
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  was,
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  was
• 8:02
  finishing
• 8:02
  up
• 8:02
  my
• 8:02
  degree
• 8:03
  and
• 8:03
  getting
• 8:04
  into
• 8:04
  looking
• 8:05
  for
• 8:05
  employment
• 8:06
  as
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  teacher
• 8:07
  again.
• 8:08
  I
• 8:08
  had
• 8:08
  been
• 8:09
  working
• 8:09
  on
• 8:09
  a
• 8:09
  manuscript,
• 8:10
  so
• 8:10
  I
• 8:11
  just,
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  had
• 8:11
  an
• 8:11
  opportunity.
• 8:12
  I
• 8:12
  had
• 8:12
  met
• 8:13
  someone
• 8:13
  who
• 8:14
  was
• 8:14
  an
• 8:14
  artist,
• 8:15
  and
• 8:15
  she
• 8:15
  actually
• 8:16
  had
• 8:16
  her
• 8:16
  own
• 8:17
  little
• 8:17
  press
• 8:18
  that
• 8:18
  she
• 8:18
  was
• 8:19
  publishing
• 8:19
  her
• 8:20
  how
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  books
• 8:20
  and
• 8:21
  things
• 8:21
  on.
• 8:21
  And
• 8:21
  we
• 8:22
  just
• 8:22
  started
• 8:22
  like
• 8:22
  chatting,
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  I
• 8:24
  found
• 8:24
  out
• 8:24
  that
• 8:24
  she
• 8:24
  had
• 8:25
  this
• 8:25
  little
• 8:25
  press,
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  I
• 8:26
  told
• 8:26
  her
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  always
• 8:27
  wanted
• 8:27
  to
• 8:27
  write
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  children's
• 8:28
  book.
• 8:28
  And
• 8:29
  she
• 8:29
  says,
• 8:29
  do
• 8:29
  you
• 8:29
  have
• 8:29
  anything
• 8:30
  going
• 8:30
  on
• 8:31
  with
• 8:31
  that?
• 8:32
  So
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  said
• 8:32
  yeah,
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  have
• 8:33
  an
• 8:33
  idea
• 8:33
  for
• 8:34
  a
• 8:34
  Christmas
• 8:35
  story.
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  love
• 8:35
  Christmas.
• 8:36
  So
• 8:36
  that's
• 8:37
  pretty
• 8:37
  much
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  inspiration
• 8:38
  behind
• 8:38
  it.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  said
• 8:39
  it's
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  little
• 8:40
  bit
• 8:40
  different.
• 8:40
  There's
• 8:40
  a
• 8:41
  different
• 8:41
  twist
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  it.
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  just
• 8:42
  wanted.
• 8:43
  And
• 8:43
  that's
• 8:43
  kind
• 8:43
  of
• 8:44
  me.
• 8:44
  That's
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  way
• 8:45
  my
• 8:45
  brain
• 8:45
  is
• 8:45
  wired.
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  like
• 8:46
  different
• 8:47
  adventures
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  things
• 8:47
  like
• 8:48
  that.
• 8:49
  Basically
• 8:49
  we
• 8:49
  did
• 8:50
  it,
• 8:50
  we
• 8:50
  published
• 8:50
  it
• 8:51
  locally.
• 8:51
  So
• 8:51
  it
• 8:52
  was
• 8:52
  way
• 8:52
  back
• 8:53
  then.
• 8:53
  It
• 8:53
  was
• 8:53
  self
• 8:53
  published.
• 8:54
  It
• 8:54
  was
• 8:55
  now,
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  guess
• 8:55
  we're
• 8:56
  more
• 8:56
  called
• 8:56
  indie
• 8:56
  writers
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  independent.
• 8:58
  Back
• 8:58
  then
• 8:59
  there
• 8:59
  wasn't
• 9:00
  any
• 9:00
  Internet.
• 9:01
  There
• 9:01
  wasn't
• 9:01
  really
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  way
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  connect
• 9:03
  with
• 9:03
  people
• 9:03
  like
• 9:04
  there
• 9:04
  is
• 9:04
  now
• 9:04
  by
• 9:05
  any
• 9:05
  means.
• 9:06
  So
• 9:06
  it
• 9:06
  was
• 9:06
  promoted
• 9:07
  and
• 9:07
  marketed
• 9:08
  locally
• 9:08
  and
• 9:09
  we
• 9:09
  did
• 9:09
  some
• 9:09
  really
• 9:09
  nice
• 9:10
  activities
• 9:10
  with
• 9:11
  it.
• 9:11
  Like
• 9:11
  one
• 9:12
  of
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  characters
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  my
• 9:13
  book
• 9:13
  is
• 9:13
  a
• 9:13
  crystal
• 9:13
  queen.
• 9:14
  So
• 9:14
  there
• 9:14
  was
• 9:15
  breakfast
• 9:15
  with
• 9:15
  the
• 9:16
  crystal
• 9:16
  queen.
• 9:16
  And
• 9:17
  for
• 9:17
  that
• 9:18
  day
• 9:18
  and
• 9:19
  time,
• 9:19
  time
• 9:20
  frame,
• 9:20
  it
• 9:21
  was
• 9:21
  very
• 9:21
  well
• 9:22
  received
• 9:22
  locally
• 9:23
  and
• 9:24
  we
• 9:24
  didn't
• 9:24
  pursue
• 9:25
  it
• 9:25
  for
• 9:25
  too
• 9:25
  many
• 9:25
  years
• 9:26
  because
• 9:26
  at
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  point
• 9:27
  that
• 9:27
  I
• 9:27
  also
• 9:28
  had
• 9:28
  finished
• 9:28
  my
• 9:28
  degree
• 9:29
  and
• 9:29
  then
• 9:29
  I
• 9:29
  did
• 9:29
  get
• 9:30
  a
• 9:30
  full
• 9:30
  time
• 9:30
  job.
• 9:31
  And
• 9:32
  she
• 9:32
  had
• 9:32
  other
• 9:32
  aspirations
• 9:33
  too.
• 9:33
  She
• 9:34
  was
• 9:34
  moving
• 9:34
  on
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  something
• 9:35
  else.
• 9:35
  And
• 9:35
  then
• 9:35
  I
• 9:36
  was
• 9:36
  going
• 9:36
  on
• 9:36
  to
• 9:36
  my
• 9:36
  career.
• 9:37
  But
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  always
• 9:38
  continued
• 9:39
  to
• 9:39
  dabble
• 9:39
  in
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  writing.
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  it
• 9:41
  wasn't
• 9:42
  only
• 9:42
  Santa
• 9:42
  Simon
• 9:43
  manuscript.
• 9:43
  There
• 9:43
  were
• 9:43
  others
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  was
• 9:44
  developing,
• 9:45
  but
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  one
• 9:46
  was
• 9:47
  like
• 9:47
  my
• 9:47
  heart.
• 9:48
  And
• 9:48
  I
• 9:49
  always
• 9:49
  thought
• 9:50
  someday
• 9:50
  I'm
• 9:51
  going
• 9:51
  to
• 9:51
  pick
• 9:52
  this
• 9:52
  up
• 9:52
  again
• 9:52
  and
• 9:53
  pursue
• 9:53
  it
• 9:54
  in
• 9:54
  the
• 9:54
  meantime.
• 9:55
  Until
• 9:56
  very
• 9:56
  recently,
• 9:57
  every
• 9:58
  once
• 9:58
  in
• 9:58
  a
• 9:58
  while
• 9:58
  people
• 9:59
  were
• 9:59
  asking
• 9:59
  me
• 10:00
  whatever
• 10:00
  happened
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  Santa
• 10:01
  Simon
• 10:02
  do
• 10:02
  you
• 10:02
  know?
• 10:03
  I
• 10:03
  still
• 10:03
  have
• 10:04
  that
• 10:04
  original
• 10:05
  copy
• 10:06
  and
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  share
• 10:07
  it
• 10:07
  at
• 10:07
  this
• 10:08
  point
• 10:08
  it's
• 10:08
  with
• 10:08
  grandchildren.
• 10:09
  Right?
• 10:10
  Share
• 10:10
  it
• 10:10
  with
• 10:10
  my
• 10:10
  kids.
• 10:10
  It's
• 10:11
  our
• 10:11
  tradition.
• 10:12
  Did
• 10:12
  you
• 10:12
  ever
• 10:12
  think
• 10:13
  about
• 10:13
  maybe
• 10:14
  getting
• 10:14
  it
• 10:14
  back
• 10:15
  out
• 10:15
  there?
• 10:16
  And
• 10:16
  yeah,
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  had
• 10:17
  over
• 10:17
  a
• 10:17
  long
• 10:18
  time
• 10:18
  considered
• 10:19
  that.
• 10:19
  But
• 10:19
  again
• 10:20
  my
• 10:21
  main
• 10:21
  focus
• 10:22
  was
• 10:22
  teaching
• 10:22
  and.
• 10:23
  And
• 10:23
  all
• 10:23
  that
• 10:24
  entailed
• 10:25
  again,
• 10:25
  just
• 10:26
  before
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  retired
• 10:27
  my.
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  thought
• 10:28
  that
• 10:28
  is
• 10:28
  probably
• 10:29
  something
• 10:29
  I'm
• 10:29
  going
• 10:30
  to
• 10:30
  do
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  retirement
• 10:31
  is
• 10:31
  pursue
• 10:31
  writing
• 10:32
  again
• 10:33
  and.
• 10:33
  But
• 10:33
  pursue
• 10:34
  it
• 10:34
  more
• 10:35
  directly
• 10:35
  and
• 10:36
  more
• 10:36
  formally
• 10:36
  and
• 10:37
  more
• 10:37
  goal
• 10:38
  oriented
• 10:39
  for
• 10:39
  sure.
• 10:39
  And
• 10:39
  like
• 10:39
  you
• 10:40
  said,
• 10:40
  technology
• 10:41
  has
• 10:41
  come
• 10:41
  such
• 10:42
  a
• 10:42
  long
• 10:42
  way.
• 10:43
  Yeah.
• 10:43
  Which
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  a
• 10:44
  blessing.
• 10:45
  But
• 10:45
  it's
• 10:46
  huge
• 10:46
  learning
• 10:47
  curve
• 10:47
  as
• 10:47
  well.
• 10:48
  Huge
• 10:49
  learning
• 10:49
  curve,
• 10:49
  absolutely.
• 10:50
  It
• 10:51
  leads
• 10:51
  me
• 10:51
  because
• 10:51
  it's
• 10:52
  incredible
• 10:52
  to
• 10:53
  hear
• 10:53
  your
• 10:53
  story
• 10:54
  because
• 10:55
  you're
• 10:55
  sharing
• 10:55
  some
• 10:56
  of
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  challenges
• 10:57
  that
• 10:57
  you
• 10:58
  know
• 10:58
  today
• 10:59
  when
• 10:59
  we
• 10:59
  look
• 11:00
  at
• 11:00
  technology,
• 11:01
  if
• 11:01
  you
• 11:02
  go
• 11:02
  back
• 11:02
  in
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  80s
• 11:03
  or
• 11:03
  90s
• 11:03
  and
• 11:04
  you
• 11:04
  go,
• 11:04
  oh
• 11:05
  my
• 11:05
  goodness,
• 11:05
  like
• 11:06
  how
• 11:06
  do
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  ever
• 11:07
  bring
• 11:07
  something
• 11:08
  to
• 11:08
  Life.
• 11:08
  And
• 11:09
  nothing
• 11:09
  was
• 11:10
  that
• 11:10
  sophisticated
• 11:11
  and
• 11:11
  it
• 11:11
  was.
• 11:12
  It
• 11:12
  took
• 11:12
  a
• 11:13
  lot
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  effort
• 11:14
  just
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  get
• 11:14
  recognized.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:16
  it's
• 11:16
  interesting.
• 11:17
  So.
• 11:18
  So
• 11:18
  you
• 11:18
  told
• 11:18
  me
• 11:19
  about
• 11:19
  this
• 11:19
  lady
• 11:20
  that
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  met
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  she
• 11:21
  had
• 11:21
  a
• 11:22
  small
• 11:22
  press
• 11:22
  and
• 11:22
  you
• 11:23
  guys
• 11:23
  launched
• 11:24
  the
• 11:24
  book
• 11:24
  locally
• 11:25
  and
• 11:26
  then
• 11:26
  it
• 11:26
  went
• 11:26
  dormant
• 11:27
  for
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  while.
• 11:28
  Tell
• 11:28
  me
• 11:29
  how
• 11:29
  it
• 11:29
  evolved
• 11:30
  to
• 11:31
  where
• 11:31
  you
• 11:31
  are
• 11:31
  now.
• 11:32
  So
• 11:32
  explain
• 11:33
  your
• 11:34
  publishing
• 11:35
  approach
• 11:35
  now.
• 11:36
  So
• 11:36
  is
• 11:37
  it.
• 11:37
  Are
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  self
• 11:38
  published
• 11:38
  or
• 11:38
  traditional
• 11:39
  published?
• 11:40
  What's
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  story
• 11:41
  now?
• 11:41
  Okay,
• 11:42
  yeah,
• 11:42
  I'm
• 11:42
  self
• 11:43
  published.
• 11:43
  What.
• 11:44
  What
• 11:44
  happened
• 11:44
  to.
• 11:45
  Was
• 11:45
  along
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  way
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  was
• 11:46
  reaching
• 11:46
  out,
• 11:47
  doing
• 11:47
  research
• 11:48
  in
• 11:48
  terms
• 11:48
  of
• 11:49
  traditional
• 11:50
  publishers
• 11:51
  and
• 11:51
  even
• 11:52
  indie
• 11:52
  independent
• 11:53
  publishers.
• 11:54
  And
• 11:55
  along
• 11:55
  that
• 11:55
  way,
• 11:55
  at
• 11:56
  some
• 11:56
  point
• 11:57
  I
• 11:58
  got
• 11:58
  an
• 11:58
  email
• 11:59
  from
• 12:00
  John
• 12:00
  Fox,
• 12:01
  who
• 12:01
  is
• 12:02
  Book
• 12:02
  Fox
• 12:03
  Press.
• 12:03
  He's
• 12:03
  the.
• 12:04
  Basically
• 12:04
  the
• 12:05
  originator
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  it.
• 12:06
  Okay.
• 12:07
  Elike,
• 12:08
  you
• 12:09
  is
• 12:09
  a
• 12:09
  person
• 12:09
  that
• 12:10
  reaches
• 12:10
  out
• 12:10
  to
• 12:11
  authors
• 12:11
  and
• 12:11
  he
• 12:12
  wanted
• 12:12
  to
• 12:12
  help
• 12:13
  authors,
• 12:13
  which
• 12:14
  was.
• 12:14
  Is
• 12:14
  amazing
• 12:14
  to
• 12:14
  me.
• 12:15
  I
• 12:15
  just
• 12:15
  love
• 12:15
  that
• 12:15
  about
• 12:16
  both
• 12:16
  of
• 12:16
  you.
• 12:16
  And
• 12:17
  yeah,
• 12:17
  it's
• 12:18
  a
• 12:18
  huge
• 12:18
  help
• 12:18
  and
• 12:19
  it's
• 12:19
  just
• 12:20
  very
• 12:20
  reaffirming.
• 12:21
  He.
• 12:22
  His
• 12:22
  email
• 12:22
  was
• 12:23
  basically
• 12:23
  tips.
• 12:24
  Do
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  want
• 12:24
  to
• 12:24
  sign
• 12:24
  up
• 12:24
  for
• 12:25
  author's
• 12:25
  tips?
• 12:25
  And
• 12:26
  he,
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  course,
• 12:27
  he.
• 12:27
  He
• 12:27
  was
• 12:27
  a
• 12:28
  former
• 12:28
  English
• 12:29
  professor
• 12:29
  and
• 12:30
  he
• 12:30
  decided
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  go
• 12:31
  this
• 12:31
  route
• 12:31
  and
• 12:32
  he
• 12:32
  offers
• 12:33
  courses
• 12:33
  and
• 12:33
  he's
• 12:34
  just
• 12:34
  grown
• 12:35
  this
• 12:35
  business
• 12:36
  where
• 12:36
  he
• 12:36
  does
• 12:36
  help
• 12:37
  authors
• 12:37
  and
• 12:38
  offers
• 12:38
  courses
• 12:39
  and
• 12:39
  whatnot.
• 12:40
  So
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  did
• 12:41
  take
• 12:41
  a
• 12:41
  couple
• 12:41
  courses
• 12:42
  from
• 12:42
  him
• 12:42
  over
• 12:42
  time
• 12:43
  and
• 12:43
  then
• 12:44
  with
• 12:44
  this
• 12:44
  book
• 12:44
  always
• 12:45
  in
• 12:45
  mind,
• 12:46
  he
• 12:46
  didn't
• 12:46
  do
• 12:46
  any
• 12:47
  publishing
• 12:47
  at
• 12:48
  that
• 12:48
  point
• 12:48
  and.
• 12:49
  But
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  always
• 12:49
  kept
• 12:49
  in
• 12:50
  contact,
• 12:50
  emailed
• 12:51
  once
• 12:51
  in
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  while,
• 12:52
  that
• 12:52
  kind
• 12:52
  of
• 12:52
  thing.
• 12:53
  Long
• 12:53
  and
• 12:53
  short
• 12:54
  of
• 12:54
  it
• 12:54
  is
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  checked
• 12:56
  back,
• 12:56
  I
• 12:57
  wasn't
• 12:57
  having
• 12:57
  any
• 12:58
  luck
• 12:58
  with
• 12:58
  traditional
• 12:59
  put
• 12:59
  my
• 13:00
  manuscript
• 13:00
  out
• 13:00
  there
• 13:01
  and
• 13:02
  I
• 13:02
  checked
• 13:03
  back
• 13:03
  on
• 13:03
  his
• 13:04
  website
• 13:04
  and
• 13:04
  saw
• 13:05
  that
• 13:05
  he
• 13:05
  had
• 13:05
  started
• 13:06
  publishing
• 13:07
  children's
• 13:08
  books.
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  was
• 13:10
  thrilled.
• 13:10
  And.
• 13:11
  And
• 13:11
  one
• 13:11
  of
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  things
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  he
• 13:12
  included
• 13:13
  was
• 13:14
  illustration
• 13:15
  that
• 13:15
  he
• 13:15
  would.
• 13:16
  In
• 13:16
  his
• 13:16
  package
• 13:17
  that
• 13:17
  he
• 13:17
  would
• 13:17
  find
• 13:18
  illustrators.
• 13:19
  Connect
• 13:19
  you
• 13:19
  with
• 13:19
  an
• 13:19
  illustrator.
• 13:20
  Okay.
• 13:21
  Yeah.
• 13:21
  So
• 13:22
  I.
• 13:22
  Because
• 13:22
  I
• 13:23
  can't
• 13:23
  draw
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  stick
• 13:24
  figure
• 13:24
  and
• 13:24
  I
• 13:25
  would
• 13:26
  exactly
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  same.
• 13:27
  I
• 13:28
  have
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  ideas.
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  had
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  visualization
• 13:30
  bot
• 13:31
  to
• 13:31
  put
• 13:31
  it.
• 13:32
  The
• 13:32
  best
• 13:32
  I
• 13:32
  can
• 13:32
  do
• 13:33
  is
• 13:33
  a
• 13:33
  happy
• 13:33
  face.
• 13:34
  Yeah,
• 13:35
  exactly.
• 13:36
  That
• 13:36
  sometimes
• 13:37
  can
• 13:37
  be
• 13:37
  challenging.
• 13:38
  But
• 13:38
  yes.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  felt
• 13:39
  like
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  had
• 13:40
  a
• 13:40
  sense
• 13:40
  of.
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  basically
• 13:42
  knew
• 13:42
  him
• 13:42
  from
• 13:42
  taking
• 13:42
  the
• 13:43
  courses
• 13:43
  even
• 13:43
  though
• 13:43
  they
• 13:43
  were
• 13:44
  online.
• 13:44
  You
• 13:44
  could
• 13:44
  reach
• 13:45
  out
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  him,
• 13:45
  he
• 13:45
  would
• 13:46
  have
• 13:46
  a
• 13:46
  conversation
• 13:46
  with
• 13:47
  you,
• 13:47
  whatever.
• 13:48
  So
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  pursued
• 13:49
  that
• 13:49
  and
• 13:50
  it
• 13:50
  was
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  very
• 13:51
  good
• 13:51
  fit
• 13:51
  for
• 13:51
  me.
• 13:52
  I
• 13:52
  don't
• 13:53
  know.
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  think
• 13:54
  in
• 13:54
  terms
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  people
• 13:55
  pursuing
• 13:56
  indie
• 13:57
  or
• 13:57
  pursuing
• 13:58
  traditional,
• 13:59
  you
• 13:59
  have
• 13:59
  to
• 14:00
  find
• 14:00
  what's
• 14:00
  right
• 14:00
  for
• 14:01
  you.
• 14:01
  You
• 14:01
  have
• 14:01
  to
• 14:01
  find
• 14:02
  your
• 14:02
  niche.
• 14:02
  Absolutely.
• 14:03
  Is
• 14:03
  it
• 14:04
  more
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  A
• 14:04
  hybrid
• 14:05
  or
• 14:05
  did
• 14:05
  he
• 14:06
  just
• 14:06
  offer
• 14:06
  you
• 14:07
  services
• 14:08
  but
• 14:08
  you
• 14:09
  had
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  self
• 14:09
  direct
• 14:10
  at
• 14:10
  your
• 14:10
  to
• 14:11
  get
• 14:11
  published?
• 14:11
  It's
• 14:12
  more
• 14:12
  of
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  hybrid
• 14:13
  where.
• 14:14
  Yeah,
• 14:14
  he
• 14:14
  offers
• 14:15
  a
• 14:15
  package
• 14:15
  and
• 14:16
  basically
• 14:16
  he
• 14:17
  includes
• 14:17
  an
• 14:17
  editing.
• 14:19
  He
• 14:19
  does
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  package.
• 14:20
  Does
• 14:21
  he
• 14:21
  and
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  package
• 14:22
  and
• 14:22
  his
• 14:22
  support
• 14:23
  team
• 14:23
  does
• 14:23
  everything
• 14:24
  right.
• 14:24
  Yeah,
• 14:25
  I
• 14:25
  just.
• 14:26
  They
• 14:26
  basically
• 14:26
  it's.
• 14:27
  It's
• 14:27
  email.
• 14:27
  You
• 14:27
  consult
• 14:28
  email
• 14:28
  with
• 14:28
  the
• 14:29
  illustrator.
• 14:30
  Fantastic.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:31
  so
• 14:31
  did
• 14:31
  he
• 14:31
  find
• 14:32
  you
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  illustrator
• 14:33
  or
• 14:33
  did
• 14:33
  you
• 14:33
  source
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  illustrator?
• 14:35
  No,
• 14:35
  he
• 14:35
  did.
• 14:36
  He
• 14:36
  has
• 14:37
  his
• 14:37
  chief
• 14:38
  publishing
• 14:38
  officers
• 14:39
  named
• 14:39
  Courtney.
• 14:40
  Okay.
• 14:40
  And
• 14:41
  she's
• 14:41
  lovely.
• 14:41
  She's
• 14:42
  been
• 14:42
  lovely
• 14:42
  to
• 14:42
  work
• 14:43
  with.
• 14:43
  So
• 14:44
  I
• 14:44
  mostly
• 14:44
  my
• 14:44
  communication
• 14:45
  has
• 14:45
  been
• 14:46
  through
• 14:46
  her.
• 14:47
  They
• 14:47
  do
• 14:47
  have
• 14:48
  several
• 14:49
  illustrators
• 14:50
  that
• 14:50
  are
• 14:51
  available
• 14:51
  that
• 14:52
  they
• 14:52
  have
• 14:52
  to
• 14:52
  hire.
• 14:53
  She
• 14:53
  had
• 14:54
  given
• 14:54
  she
• 14:54
  from
• 14:55
  the
• 14:55
  storyline
• 14:56
  and
• 14:56
  knowing
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  illustrator
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  she
• 14:58
  had
• 14:58
  recommended
• 14:59
  who
• 14:59
  ended
• 14:59
  up
• 14:59
  being
• 14:59
  my
• 15:00
  illustrator,
• 15:01
  she
• 15:01
  just
• 15:01
  said
• 15:01
  I
• 15:02
  think
• 15:02
  this
• 15:02
  would
• 15:02
  be
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  really
• 15:03
  good
• 15:03
  fit.
• 15:03
  Can
• 15:03
  you
• 15:03
  take
• 15:04
  a
• 15:04
  look
• 15:04
  at
• 15:04
  her?
• 15:04
  You
• 15:04
  know,
• 15:05
  think
• 15:05
  about
• 15:05
  it,
• 15:05
  whatever.
• 15:06
  So
• 15:06
  I
• 15:06
  did.
• 15:06
  I
• 15:06
  went
• 15:07
  on
• 15:07
  her
• 15:07
  website
• 15:07
  and
• 15:08
  it
• 15:08
  was
• 15:08
  just
• 15:09
  like
• 15:09
  an
• 15:09
  instant.
• 15:09
  Yeah,
• 15:10
  I
• 15:10
  think
• 15:10
  she'd
• 15:10
  be
• 15:10
  a
• 15:11
  very
• 15:11
  good
• 15:11
  fit.
• 15:12
  And
• 15:12
  she
• 15:12
  was.
• 15:13
  She.
• 15:13
  We
• 15:13
  communicated
• 15:14
  very
• 15:14
  well.
• 15:15
  Fantastic.
• 15:16
  She
• 15:16
  got
• 15:16
  me.
• 15:17
  She
• 15:17
  got
• 15:17
  what
• 15:17
  my
• 15:17
  vision
• 15:18
  was.
• 15:18
  I
• 15:18
  think,
• 15:19
  you
• 15:19
  know
• 15:19
  what
• 15:19
  if
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  can
• 15:21
  share
• 15:21
  with
• 15:22
  and
• 15:22
  build
• 15:23
  upon
• 15:23
  what
• 15:23
  you're
• 15:23
  talking
• 15:24
  about.
• 15:25
  That's
• 15:25
  what
• 15:25
  I
• 15:25
  found.
• 15:26
  Incredible
• 15:27
  is
• 15:27
  I
• 15:27
  was
• 15:27
  very
• 15:27
  fortunate
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  find
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  illustrator
• 15:30
  that
• 15:30
  we
• 15:30
  have
• 15:31
  because
• 15:32
  all
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  our
• 15:33
  stories
• 15:34
  are.
• 15:34
  And
• 15:35
  We've
• 15:35
  written
• 15:35
  about
• 15:35
  38
• 15:36
  books
• 15:36
  so
• 15:37
  far.
• 15:37
  We've
• 15:38
  only
• 15:38
  published
• 15:39
  one,
• 15:39
  but
• 15:39
  we
• 15:39
  have
• 15:40
  more.
• 15:41
  But
• 15:41
  it
• 15:41
  as
• 15:41
  was
• 15:41
  a
• 15:42
  self
• 15:42
  published
• 15:42
  author,
• 15:43
  it
• 15:43
  takes
• 15:43
  a
• 15:43
  while
• 15:43
  to
• 15:44
  earn
• 15:44
  enough
• 15:45
  money
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  pay
• 15:45
  for
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  next
• 15:46
  book.
• 15:47
  Absolutely.
• 15:47
  And
• 15:48
  what
• 15:48
  I
• 15:48
  did
• 15:49
  is
• 15:49
  the.
• 15:49
  So
• 15:50
  with
• 15:51
  my
• 15:51
  five
• 15:51
  grandchildren
• 15:52
  we
• 15:52
  developed
• 15:53
  these
• 15:53
  stories
• 15:54
  and
• 15:54
  so
• 15:55
  we
• 15:55
  had
• 15:55
  a
• 15:55
  real
• 15:56
  strong
• 15:56
  visual
• 15:57
  because
• 15:57
  they
• 15:57
  were
• 15:57
  based
• 15:58
  on
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  nugget
• 15:58
  of
• 15:59
  truth
• 15:59
  of
• 16:00
  our
• 16:00
  own
• 16:00
  adventures.
• 16:01
  So
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  needed
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  find
• 16:02
  an
• 16:03
  illustrator
• 16:03
  and
• 16:03
  I'm
• 16:04
  only
• 16:04
  telling
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  audience
• 16:05
  this
• 16:05
  so
• 16:06
  they
• 16:06
  know
• 16:07
  that
• 16:07
  if
• 16:07
  you
• 16:07
  have
• 16:08
  a
• 16:08
  strong
• 16:08
  sense
• 16:08
  of
• 16:09
  what
• 16:09
  you
• 16:09
  want
• 16:10
  or
• 16:10
  it's
• 16:11
  based
• 16:11
  on
• 16:12
  something
• 16:12
  very
• 16:13
  visual
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  you,
• 16:14
  then
• 16:15
  when
• 16:15
  you're
• 16:15
  looking
• 16:15
  for
• 16:16
  an
• 16:16
  illustrator,
• 16:16
  find
• 16:17
  someone
• 16:17
  who
• 16:18
  to
• 16:19
  your
• 16:19
  point
• 16:20
  is
• 16:20
  in
• 16:20
  sync
• 16:21
  with
• 16:21
  what
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  have
• 16:22
  in
• 16:22
  mind.
• 16:23
  Absolutely.
• 16:24
  Right
• 16:25
  on
• 16:25
  the
• 16:26
  character
• 16:26
  itself.
• 16:27
  Like
• 16:27
  the
• 16:28
  Crystal
• 16:28
  Dragon
• 16:29
  for
• 16:29
  example,
• 16:30
  did
• 16:30
  that.
• 16:31
  Did
• 16:31
  you
• 16:31
  have
• 16:32
  a
• 16:32
  something
• 16:33
  in
• 16:33
  mind
• 16:33
  or
• 16:34
  did
• 16:34
  the
• 16:34
  illustrator
• 16:35
  say
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  can
• 16:37
  tell
• 16:37
  from
• 16:37
  your
• 16:37
  words
• 16:38
  how
• 16:38
  to
• 16:38
  do
• 16:39
  this
• 16:39
  or
• 16:39
  how
• 16:39
  did
• 16:40
  this
• 16:40
  come
• 16:40
  about?
• 16:41
  It
• 16:41
  was
• 16:41
  a
• 16:41
  combination.
• 16:42
  She
• 16:44
  started
• 16:44
  out
• 16:44
  with
• 16:44
  the
• 16:45
  characters.
• 16:45
  She.
• 16:46
  Yeah,
• 16:46
  of
• 16:47
  course
• 16:47
  she
• 16:47
  had
• 16:47
  her
• 16:48
  own,
• 16:48
  for
• 16:49
  lack
• 16:49
  of
• 16:49
  a
• 16:49
  better
• 16:49
  word,
• 16:49
  like
• 16:50
  a
• 16:50
  format
• 16:50
  for
• 16:51
  doing
• 16:51
  things.
• 16:52
  A
• 16:52
  procedure
• 16:53
  basically.
• 16:54
  And
• 16:54
  she
• 16:55
  started
• 16:55
  out
• 16:55
  with
• 16:55
  the
• 16:56
  main
• 16:56
  characters
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  she
• 16:57
  told
• 16:57
  me,
• 16:58
  which
• 16:58
  was
• 16:58
  very
• 16:58
  nice
• 16:59
  too.
• 16:59
  In
• 16:59
  Advance.
• 16:59
  She
• 16:59
  like,
• 17:00
  said,
• 17:00
  these
• 17:00
  are
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  steps
• 17:01
  that
• 17:01
  you
• 17:01
  can
• 17:02
  look
• 17:02
  forward
• 17:02
  to
• 17:03
  seeing.
• 17:03
  First,
• 17:04
  I'm
• 17:04
  going
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  develop
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  main
• 17:05
  characters,
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  will.
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  will
• 17:07
  send
• 17:07
  you
• 17:07
  that
• 17:08
  sketch.
• 17:09
  It's
• 17:09
  not.
• 17:09
  The
• 17:09
  word
• 17:10
  isn't
• 17:10
  sketch,
• 17:10
  but
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  proof
• 17:12
  maybe
• 17:12
  is
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  better.
• 17:13
  Yeah,
• 17:14
  yeah.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:14
  then
• 17:15
  she
• 17:15
  said,
• 17:15
  we
• 17:16
  will
• 17:16
  have
• 17:16
  a
• 17:16
  conversation
• 17:17
  about
• 17:17
  it.
• 17:17
  Tell
• 17:17
  me
• 17:18
  what
• 17:18
  you
• 17:18
  think.
• 17:18
  Do
• 17:18
  you
• 17:19
  have
• 17:19
  anything.
• 17:20
  Do
• 17:20
  you
• 17:20
  want
• 17:20
  anything
• 17:21
  changed
• 17:21
  on
• 17:21
  it?
• 17:21
  Do
• 17:21
  you
• 17:21
  like
• 17:22
  it
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  way
• 17:22
  it
• 17:22
  is?
• 17:23
  So
• 17:23
  that's
• 17:23
  what
• 17:24
  she
• 17:24
  did.
• 17:24
  She
• 17:24
  sent
• 17:24
  me
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  main
• 17:25
  characters,
• 17:26
  which
• 17:26
  were.
• 17:26
  Was
• 17:27
  Simon,
• 17:27
  of
• 17:28
  course,
• 17:28
  and
• 17:28
  then
• 17:29
  Santa,
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  Crystal
• 17:30
  Queen,
• 17:31
  Snow
• 17:31
  Dragon
• 17:32
  and
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  Mayor
• 17:32
  Bean.
• 17:33
  Right.
• 17:33
  Even
• 17:34
  with
• 17:34
  that,
• 17:35
  there
• 17:35
  were
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  few
• 17:36
  tweaks
• 17:37
  when
• 17:37
  we
• 17:37
  got
• 17:38
  more
• 17:38
  into
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  illustrations
• 17:39
  as
• 17:39
  far
• 17:39
  as
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  characters
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  how
• 17:41
  they
• 17:41
  were
• 17:41
  reacting
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  events
• 17:43
  in
• 17:43
  the
• 17:43
  story,
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  characters,
• 17:46
  basic
• 17:47
  Personas.
• 17:48
  She.
• 17:49
  She
• 17:49
  pretty.
• 17:49
  She
• 17:49
  nailed
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  for
• 17:50
  me.
• 17:51
  That's
• 17:51
  fantastic.
• 17:52
  So
• 17:52
  did
• 17:52
  you
• 17:52
  guys
• 17:52
  go
• 17:53
  back
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  forth
• 17:54
  a
• 17:54
  bit
• 17:54
  in
• 17:55
  development?
• 17:55
  Okay.
• 17:56
  Yes,
• 17:56
  we
• 17:57
  went
• 17:57
  back
• 17:57
  and
• 17:57
  forth
• 17:58
  quite
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  bit.
• 17:58
  Okay.
• 17:59
  So
• 17:59
  then
• 18:00
  she.
• 18:00
  From
• 18:01
  the
• 18:01
  original
• 18:02
  characters,
• 18:03
  which
• 18:03
  she
• 18:04
  gave
• 18:04
  to
• 18:04
  me
• 18:04
  right
• 18:05
  away
• 18:05
  in
• 18:05
  color.
• 18:06
  As
• 18:06
  far
• 18:06
  as
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  proof,
• 18:07
  the
• 18:08
  other
• 18:08
  sketches
• 18:09
  were
• 18:09
  more
• 18:09
  of
• 18:09
  a
• 18:09
  black
• 18:10
  and
• 18:10
  white.
• 18:11
  Yes.
• 18:11
  Yeah.
• 18:12
  So
• 18:13
  basically,
• 18:14
  to
• 18:15
  develop
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  setting
• 18:17
  and
• 18:17
  the
• 18:18
  details
• 18:18
  in
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  setting,
• 18:19
  and
• 18:19
  then
• 18:20
  she
• 18:20
  went
• 18:21
  back
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  started
• 18:22
  to
• 18:22
  add
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  color.
• 18:23
  And
• 18:23
  that's
• 18:23
  exactly
• 18:24
  the
• 18:25
  process
• 18:25
  that
• 18:26
  our
• 18:26
  illustrator
• 18:27
  did.
• 18:27
  He
• 18:28
  came
• 18:28
  to
• 18:28
  us.
• 18:29
  Now,
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  only
• 18:29
  thing
• 18:29
  is
• 18:30
  that
• 18:30
  we
• 18:30
  already
• 18:31
  had
• 18:31
  developed.
• 18:32
  This
• 18:32
  is
• 18:32
  caboose
• 18:33
  right
• 18:33
  here.
• 18:34
  Yes.
• 18:35
  And
• 18:35
  we
• 18:36
  had
• 18:36
  already.
• 18:37
  My
• 18:37
  granddaughter
• 18:38
  and
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  already
• 18:39
  had
• 18:39
  a
• 18:40
  strong
• 18:40
  sense
• 18:41
  that
• 18:41
  we
• 18:42
  wanted
• 18:42
  a
• 18:42
  bear
• 18:43
  as
• 18:43
  our
• 18:43
  main
• 18:44
  character.
• 18:45
  And
• 18:45
  then
• 18:46
  we
• 18:46
  actually,
• 18:47
  because
• 18:47
  we
• 18:47
  were.
• 18:48
  We
• 18:48
  developed
• 18:49
  these
• 18:49
  adventures
• 18:49
  in
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  Rocky
• 18:50
  Mountains.
• 18:51
  There
• 18:51
  was
• 18:52
  trains,
• 18:52
  and
• 18:53
  trains
• 18:53
  were
• 18:53
  very
• 18:54
  predominant.
• 18:55
  But
• 18:55
  my
• 18:55
  granddaughter
• 18:56
  had
• 18:56
  never
• 18:56
  seen
• 18:57
  a
• 18:57
  caboose
• 18:57
  in
• 18:57
  her
• 18:58
  whole
• 18:58
  life,
• 18:59
  because
• 19:00
  I
• 19:00
  think
• 19:00
  cabooses
• 19:01
  disappeared
• 19:02
  about
• 19:02
  20
• 19:02
  years
• 19:03
  ago.
• 19:04
  But
• 19:04
  in
• 19:04
  our
• 19:05
  home,
• 19:05
  I
• 19:06
  had
• 19:06
  taken
• 19:06
  my
• 19:06
  dad's
• 19:07
  old
• 19:07
  train
• 19:08
  set
• 19:08
  from
• 19:08
  the
• 19:09
  1940s
• 19:10
  or
• 19:11
  50s,
• 19:11
  I'm
• 19:11
  not
• 19:11
  sure.
• 19:12
  And
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  actually
• 19:13
  mounted
• 19:13
  it
• 19:14
  in
• 19:14
  a
• 19:14
  display
• 19:15
  case,
• 19:15
  and
• 19:15
  there
• 19:15
  was
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  caboose
• 19:16
  at
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  end,
• 19:17
  a
• 19:17
  red
• 19:17
  caboose.
• 19:18
  And
• 19:19
  she
• 19:19
  just
• 19:19
  loved
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  word
• 19:20
  caboose.
• 19:20
  And
• 19:20
  she
• 19:21
  would
• 19:21
  run
• 19:21
  around
• 19:21
  saying
• 19:22
  caboose.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:23
  that
• 19:23
  ended
• 19:23
  up
• 19:23
  being
• 19:24
  how
• 19:24
  we
• 19:25
  came
• 19:25
  up
• 19:25
  with
• 19:25
  the
• 19:26
  idea.
• 19:27
  And
• 19:27
  then,
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  course,
• 19:29
  with
• 19:29
  the
• 19:29
  trains,
• 19:30
  we
• 19:30
  found
• 19:31
  a
• 19:31
  shop.
• 19:32
  Actually,
• 19:32
  my
• 19:32
  wife
• 19:32
  and
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  were
• 19:33
  in
• 19:33
  San
• 19:33
  Francisco,
• 19:34
  and
• 19:35
  we
• 19:35
  went
• 19:36
  into
• 19:36
  this
• 19:36
  plushie
• 19:37
  store
• 19:37
  that
• 19:38
  made
• 19:39
  plushies
• 19:39
  for
• 19:40
  you,
• 19:40
  and
• 19:40
  you
• 19:40
  dressed
• 19:41
  them
• 19:41
  whatever
• 19:42
  way
• 19:42
  you
• 19:42
  wanted.
• 19:42
  And
• 19:43
  that's
• 19:43
  what
• 19:43
  ended
• 19:43
  up
• 19:44
  happening.
• 19:44
  We
• 19:44
  found
• 19:44
  this
• 19:45
  cute
• 19:45
  bear,
• 19:46
  and
• 19:46
  then
• 19:46
  they
• 19:46
  had
• 19:47
  an
• 19:47
  engineering
• 19:47
  outfit,
• 19:48
  and
• 19:48
  we
• 19:48
  went,
• 19:49
  eureka.
• 19:50
  Perfect.
• 19:51
  Yeah.
• 19:51
  And
• 19:51
  we
• 19:52
  brought
• 19:52
  it
• 19:52
  back
• 19:53
  and
• 19:53
  showed
• 19:53
  it
• 19:53
  to
• 19:54
  my
• 19:54
  Granddaughter,
• 19:54
  she
• 19:55
  fell
• 19:55
  in
• 19:55
  love
• 19:55
  with
• 19:55
  it.
• 19:56
  And
• 19:56
  then
• 19:56
  what
• 19:57
  we
• 19:57
  did
• 19:57
  is
• 19:57
  we
• 19:58
  actually.
• 19:58
  Her
• 19:58
  name
• 19:58
  is
• 19:59
  Kira.
• 19:59
  So
• 20:00
  we
• 20:00
  took
• 20:00
  the
• 20:00
  K
• 20:01
  and
• 20:01
  put
• 20:01
  K
• 20:02
  instead
• 20:02
  of
• 20:02
  a
• 20:03
  C
• 20:03
  in
• 20:03
  caboose.
• 20:03
  We
• 20:03
  put
• 20:04
  a
• 20:04
  K
• 20:04
  in
• 20:04
  caboose.
• 20:05
  And
• 20:05
  that's
• 20:05
  how
• 20:06
  connection.
• 20:07
  Yeah.
• 20:07
  So.
• 20:08
  And
• 20:08
  again
• 20:08
  I
• 20:08
  just,
• 20:09
  I
• 20:09
  tell
• 20:09
  these
• 20:09
  stories
• 20:10
  for
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  audience
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  realize
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  there's
• 20:12
  no
• 20:13
  right
• 20:13
  or
• 20:13
  wrong
• 20:13
  way
• 20:13
  of
• 20:14
  putting
• 20:14
  these
• 20:14
  things
• 20:15
  together.
• 20:15
  It's
• 20:16
  how
• 20:16
  you're.
• 20:17
  Like
• 20:17
  you
• 20:18
  said
• 20:18
  your.
• 20:18
  I
• 20:18
  think
• 20:18
  you
• 20:19
  said
• 20:19
  your
• 20:19
  author's
• 20:20
  mind.
• 20:20
  How
• 20:20
  it.
• 20:21
  Word.
• 20:21
  How
• 20:21
  you're
• 20:22
  wired.
• 20:22
  Yeah,
• 20:23
  how
• 20:23
  it's
• 20:23
  wired.
• 20:23
  I
• 20:24
  love
• 20:24
  that
• 20:24
  and
• 20:24
  I
• 20:25
  think
• 20:25
  that's
• 20:25
  important
• 20:25
  for
• 20:26
  people
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  remember.
• 20:27
  It's
• 20:27
  just
• 20:27
  how
• 20:28
  you
• 20:28
  are
• 20:28
  wired
• 20:29
  and
• 20:29
  that's
• 20:30
  could
• 20:30
  really
• 20:31
  drive
• 20:31
  your
• 20:32
  passion
• 20:32
  and
• 20:33
  your
• 20:33
  inspiration.
• 20:34
  Yes,
• 20:35
  absolutely.
• 20:36
  And
• 20:36
  as
• 20:37
  far
• 20:37
  as
• 20:37
  like
• 20:37
  my
• 20:38
  writing
• 20:38
  process
• 20:39
  goes,
• 20:40
  it's
• 20:40
  not
• 20:40
  always.
• 20:41
  It's
• 20:41
  not.
• 20:42
  And
• 20:42
  you
• 20:42
  would
• 20:42
  know
• 20:42
  this.
• 20:42
  It's
• 20:43
  not
• 20:43
  linear.
• 20:43
  You
• 20:44
  don't
• 20:44
  just
• 20:44
  sit
• 20:44
  down
• 20:45
  and
• 20:45
  say
• 20:45
  this
• 20:45
  is
• 20:45
  going
• 20:45
  to
• 20:46
  happen
• 20:46
  and
• 20:46
  then
• 20:46
  next.
• 20:46
  This
• 20:46
  is
• 20:47
  going
• 20:47
  to
• 20:47
  happen
• 20:47
  and
• 20:47
  then
• 20:47
  next.
• 20:48
  Next
• 20:49
  becomes
• 20:50
  very
• 20:50
  organic
• 20:51
  and
• 20:51
  it
• 20:51
  flows
• 20:52
  and
• 20:52
  you're
• 20:53
  influenced
• 20:53
  by
• 20:54
  different
• 20:54
  things
• 20:54
  as
• 20:55
  it's
• 20:55
  unfolding.
• 20:56
  You
• 20:56
  have
• 20:57
  framework,
• 20:58
  but
• 20:58
  within
• 20:59
  brain.
• 20:59
  I
• 21:00
  just
• 21:00
  want
• 21:00
  to
• 21:01
  talk
• 21:01
  a
• 21:01
  little
• 21:01
  bit
• 21:01
  about
• 21:02
  your
• 21:02
  website.
• 21:03
  So
• 21:03
  if
• 21:03
  you
• 21:03
  don't
• 21:03
  mind,
• 21:03
  I'm
• 21:04
  going
• 21:04
  to
• 21:04
  pull.
• 21:04
  I've
• 21:04
  got
• 21:05
  my
• 21:05
  iPad
• 21:05
  up
• 21:06
  here
• 21:06
  and
• 21:06
  I
• 21:07
  look
• 21:07
  at
• 21:07
  your
• 21:07
  website
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  was
• 21:09
  quite
• 21:09
  fascinated
• 21:10
  because
• 21:10
  when
• 21:11
  you
• 21:11
  and
• 21:11
  I
• 21:11
  originally
• 21:12
  made
• 21:12
  contact,
• 21:13
  like
• 21:14
  your
• 21:14
  website
• 21:15
  has
• 21:15
  already
• 21:16
  evolved
• 21:16
  in
• 21:16
  such
• 21:16
  a
• 21:17
  short
• 21:17
  period
• 21:17
  of
• 21:17
  time.
• 21:18
  I
• 21:18
  think
• 21:18
  we
• 21:18
  probably
• 21:19
  contacted
• 21:19
  each
• 21:20
  other
• 21:20
  about
• 21:21
  four
• 21:21
  weeks
• 21:21
  ago
• 21:21
  and
• 21:22
  I'm
• 21:22
  looking
• 21:22
  and
• 21:22
  I'm
• 21:22
  thinking,
• 21:23
  wow,
• 21:24
  like
• 21:24
  things
• 21:24
  that
• 21:25
  have
• 21:25
  happened
• 21:25
  so
• 21:26
  quick
• 21:26
  now
• 21:26
  people
• 21:27
  wouldn't
• 21:27
  see
• 21:27
  this
• 21:28
  but.
• 21:28
  But
• 21:28
  I
• 21:29
  saw
• 21:29
  it
• 21:29
  cuz
• 21:29
  I
• 21:29
  was
• 21:30
  looking
• 21:30
  at
• 21:30
  your
• 21:30
  website
• 21:31
  and
• 21:31
  I
• 21:31
  saw
• 21:32
  Coming
• 21:32
  soon
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  Merch
• 21:34
  Merchandising
• 21:34
  shop.
• 21:35
  And
• 21:35
  then
• 21:35
  all
• 21:36
  of
• 21:36
  a
• 21:36
  sudden,
• 21:36
  boom,
• 21:37
  it
• 21:37
  appears.
• 21:38
  And
• 21:38
  then
• 21:38
  I
• 21:39
  didn't
• 21:39
  realize
• 21:39
  you
• 21:39
  were
• 21:40
  in.
• 21:40
  We'll
• 21:40
  talk
• 21:41
  at
• 21:41
  the
• 21:41
  end.
• 21:41
  But
• 21:42
  I
• 21:42
  didn't
• 21:42
  realize
• 21:42
  you
• 21:42
  were
• 21:43
  developing
• 21:43
  another
• 21:44
  book.
• 21:44
  I
• 21:44
  was
• 21:44
  going
• 21:44
  to
• 21:44
  ask
• 21:44
  you
• 21:45
  about
• 21:45
  that
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  then
• 21:45
  boom.
• 21:46
  It
• 21:46
  appears
• 21:47
  so.
• 21:48
  Quite
• 21:48
  interesting.
• 21:49
  So
• 21:49
  maybe
• 21:50
  if
• 21:50
  you
• 21:50
  could
• 21:50
  just
• 21:51
  tell
• 21:51
  us
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  little
• 21:51
  bit
• 21:52
  about.
• 21:53
  There's
• 21:53
  two
• 21:53
  things.
• 21:54
  When
• 21:54
  I
• 21:55
  first
• 21:55
  started
• 21:55
  on
• 21:56
  this
• 21:56
  journey,
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  first
• 21:57
  thing
• 21:58
  that
• 21:58
  someone
• 21:58
  said
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  me
• 21:59
  is
• 21:59
  they
• 21:59
  said,
• 22:00
  you
• 22:00
  know
• 22:00
  what?
• 22:01
  You
• 22:01
  need
• 22:01
  to
• 22:02
  have
• 22:02
  a
• 22:03
  website
• 22:03
  to
• 22:04
  support
• 22:04
  your
• 22:05
  book.
• 22:06
  And
• 22:06
  I
• 22:06
  thought
• 22:06
  oh.
• 22:07
  And
• 22:08
  we,
• 22:08
  my
• 22:08
  granddaughter
• 22:09
  and
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  were
• 22:09
  just
• 22:10
  so
• 22:10
  excited
• 22:10
  about
• 22:10
  getting
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  book
• 22:11
  published,
• 22:12
  let
• 22:12
  alone
• 22:13
  developing
• 22:14
  a
• 22:14
  website.
• 22:15
  And
• 22:15
  so
• 22:15
  we
• 22:16
  were
• 22:16
  probably.
• 22:17
  We
• 22:17
  did
• 22:17
  it
• 22:17
  in
• 22:17
  reverse,
• 22:18
  which
• 22:18
  you
• 22:19
  can't
• 22:19
  go
• 22:19
  back
• 22:19
  and
• 22:20
  change.
• 22:20
  It
• 22:20
  took
• 22:20
  us
• 22:21
  about
• 22:21
  six
• 22:21
  months
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  develop
• 22:22
  our
• 22:23
  website.
• 22:23
  But
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  Positive
• 22:24
  thing
• 22:25
  is
• 22:25
  that
• 22:25
  all
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  a
• 22:26
  sudden
• 22:26
  now
• 22:26
  we
• 22:27
  had
• 22:27
  all
• 22:27
  these
• 22:27
  graphics.
• 22:28
  So
• 22:29
  we
• 22:29
  were
• 22:29
  paying
• 22:30
  to
• 22:30
  help
• 22:30
  us
• 22:30
  with
• 22:31
  our
• 22:31
  website
• 22:31
  development.
• 22:32
  So
• 22:32
  tell
• 22:33
  us
• 22:33
  a
• 22:33
  little
• 22:33
  bit
• 22:34
  about
• 22:34
  your
• 22:35
  website
• 22:36
  journey.
• 22:36
  Did
• 22:36
  you
• 22:37
  have
• 22:37
  your
• 22:37
  website
• 22:38
  before
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  book
• 22:39
  launch?
• 22:39
  After
• 22:39
  the
• 22:40
  book
• 22:40
  launch?
• 22:40
  And
• 22:41
  tell
• 22:41
  us,
• 22:41
  like
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  said,
• 22:42
  I'm
• 22:42
  looking
• 22:42
  at
• 22:43
  your
• 22:43
  website
• 22:43
  and
• 22:43
  it's
• 22:44
  evolving
• 22:44
  and
• 22:44
  I'm
• 22:44
  going,
• 22:45
  wow.
• 22:45
  So
• 22:45
  Pete,
• 22:46
  give
• 22:46
  us
• 22:46
  the
• 22:47
  whole
• 22:48
  start
• 22:48
  of
• 22:48
  the
• 22:49
  website
• 22:49
  and
• 22:49
  then
• 22:50
  where
• 22:50
  it
• 22:50
  is
• 22:50
  now.
• 22:51
  Okay.
• 22:52
  Yeah.
• 22:52
  It's
• 22:52
  an
• 22:52
  interesting
• 22:53
  story.
• 22:54
  Santa
• 22:54
  Simon.
• 22:55
  This
• 22:55
  is
• 22:55
  actually
• 22:55
  its
• 22:56
  second
• 22:56
  season,
• 22:56
  so
• 22:57
  it
• 22:57
  was
• 22:57
  published
• 22:58
  last
• 22:58
  October,
• 22:59
  in
• 22:59
  2023.
• 23:00
  By
• 23:00
  last
• 23:00
  October.
• 23:01
  So
• 23:02
  ahead
• 23:02
  of
• 23:02
  that
• 23:03
  with
• 23:03
  it
• 23:04
  going
• 23:04
  to
• 23:04
  be
• 23:05
  launching
• 23:05
  John
• 23:06
  Fox,
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  publisher,
• 23:08
  he
• 23:08
  also
• 23:08
  offered
• 23:09
  a
• 23:09
  course
• 23:09
  in
• 23:10
  marketing.
• 23:10
  And
• 23:11
  it
• 23:11
  was
• 23:11
  very.
• 23:12
  An
• 23:12
  excellent
• 23:13
  course
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  very
• 23:15
  comprehensive.
• 23:16
  And
• 23:16
  basically
• 23:17
  it
• 23:17
  terrified
• 23:18
  me.
• 23:18
  Perfect.
• 23:21
  I
• 23:21
  was
• 23:22
  like,
• 23:22
  oh,
• 23:22
  my
• 23:22
  goodness,
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  thought
• 23:23
  you
• 23:24
  hung
• 23:24
  a
• 23:24
  shield.
• 23:24
  And
• 23:25
  they
• 23:25
  would
• 23:25
  hung.
• 23:25
  I
• 23:26
  didn't.
• 23:26
  I'm
• 23:26
  almost
• 23:27
  like,
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  didn't
• 23:28
  sign
• 23:28
  up
• 23:28
  for
• 23:28
  all
• 23:28
  of
• 23:29
  this.
• 23:29
  Like,
• 23:29
  technically
• 23:30
  I
• 23:30
  did.
• 23:30
  But
• 23:31
  one
• 23:31
  of
• 23:31
  the
• 23:32
  main
• 23:32
  things
• 23:32
  is,
• 23:33
  as
• 23:33
  you
• 23:33
  said,
• 23:33
  a
• 23:33
  website.
• 23:34
  And
• 23:35
  I
• 23:35
  as
• 23:36
  a
• 23:36
  teacher
• 23:36
  and
• 23:37
  as
• 23:37
  technology
• 23:38
  has
• 23:38
  evolved,
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  had
• 23:38
  a
• 23:39
  website
• 23:39
  as
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  teacher
• 23:40
  with
• 23:40
  my
• 23:40
  school
• 23:41
  district
• 23:41
  and.
• 23:41
  Right.
• 23:42
  I
• 23:42
  had
• 23:42
  some
• 23:43
  basic
• 23:43
  skills
• 23:44
  and
• 23:44
  as
• 23:44
  a
• 23:44
  teacher,
• 23:44
  I
• 23:45
  had
• 23:45
  to
• 23:45
  learn
• 23:45
  a
• 23:45
  lot
• 23:46
  of
• 23:46
  different
• 23:46
  other
• 23:46
  skills
• 23:47
  as
• 23:47
  far
• 23:48
  as
• 23:48
  media
• 23:49
  and
• 23:49
  things
• 23:49
  like
• 23:49
  that
• 23:50
  and
• 23:50
  technology.
• 23:51
  But
• 23:51
  they
• 23:52
  were
• 23:52
  like
• 23:52
  pretty
• 23:53
  specific
• 23:54
  to
• 23:54
  teaching.
• 23:55
  So
• 23:56
  again,
• 23:57
  where
• 23:57
  I
• 23:57
  can't
• 23:58
  draw
• 23:58
  a
• 23:58
  stick
• 23:59
  figure.
• 23:59
  I.
• 24:01
  Websites
• 24:01
  are
• 24:01
  way
• 24:02
  above
• 24:02
  my
• 24:02
  pay
• 24:02
  grade.
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  just.
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  was
• 24:04
  paralyzed
• 24:05
  and
• 24:05
  I
• 24:06
  really.
• 24:07
  I
• 24:07
  looked
• 24:07
  at
• 24:08
  models
• 24:08
  that
• 24:09
  were
• 24:09
  recommended.
• 24:09
  I
• 24:10
  looked
• 24:10
  at
• 24:11
  templates.
• 24:12
  I
• 24:12
  have
• 24:12
  a
• 24:12
  neighbor
• 24:13
  who
• 24:13
  is
• 24:14
  a
• 24:14
  young
• 24:14
  man
• 24:14
  who
• 24:15
  is
• 24:15
  a
• 24:16
  author
• 24:17
  and
• 24:17
  he
• 24:17
  is
• 24:17
  a
• 24:17
  whiz
• 24:18
  at
• 24:18
  everything
• 24:19
  with
• 24:19
  technology.
• 24:20
  He's
• 24:20
  just.
• 24:20
  And
• 24:21
  he's.
• 24:21
  I'll
• 24:21
  help
• 24:21
  you.
• 24:21
  I'll
• 24:21
  help
• 24:22
  you.
• 24:22
  That
• 24:22
  was
• 24:22
  very
• 24:23
  sweet.
• 24:23
  But
• 24:23
  you
• 24:23
  know
• 24:24
  what?
• 24:24
  I
• 24:25
  don't
• 24:25
  think
• 24:25
  you're
• 24:25
  gonna
• 24:25
  wanna
• 24:25
  help
• 24:26
  me.
• 24:27
  I'm
• 24:27
  gonna
• 24:27
  build
• 24:28
  out
• 24:28
  of
• 24:28
  work
• 24:28
  for
• 24:28
  you.
• 24:29
  So
• 24:30
  over
• 24:30
  the
• 24:31
  past
• 24:31
  year,
• 24:32
  I
• 24:32
  had
• 24:32
  my
• 24:32
  events
• 24:33
  and
• 24:33
  things
• 24:33
  like
• 24:33
  that,
• 24:34
  and
• 24:34
  I
• 24:35
  didn't
• 24:35
  have
• 24:35
  a
• 24:35
  formal
• 24:36
  website.
• 24:36
  I
• 24:36
  was
• 24:36
  posting
• 24:37
  them
• 24:37
  on
• 24:37
  my
• 24:37
  page,
• 24:38
  my
• 24:38
  Facebook
• 24:38
  page.
• 24:39
  Okay.
• 24:40
  And
• 24:40
  I.
• 24:40
  But
• 24:40
  I
• 24:40
  did
• 24:41
  know.
• 24:41
  I
• 24:41
  did
• 24:41
  understand
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  importance.
• 24:42
  And
• 24:43
  then
• 24:43
  it
• 24:43
  was
• 24:44
  back
• 24:44
  in
• 24:44
  August,
• 24:45
  I
• 24:45
  decided,
• 24:46
  you
• 24:46
  know
• 24:46
  what?
• 24:47
  This
• 24:47
  is
• 24:47
  crazy.
• 24:48
  I
• 24:48
  really
• 24:49
  need
• 24:49
  help.
• 24:49
  I
• 24:49
  need
• 24:50
  a
• 24:50
  team.
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  need
• 24:51
  some
• 24:51
  support.
• 24:51
  So
• 24:52
  I
• 24:52
  reached
• 24:52
  out.
• 24:52
  I
• 24:53
  actually
• 24:53
  was
• 24:53
  on
• 24:53
  Facebook
• 24:54
  and
• 24:54
  saw
• 24:55
  the
• 24:55
  developer
• 24:56
  of
• 24:56
  my
• 24:56
  website,
• 24:57
  who
• 24:57
  is
• 24:57
  David
• 24:58
  Survey.
• 24:58
  He
• 24:59
  and
• 24:59
  djc
• 25:01
  graphics
• 25:02
  designer.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:03
  he.
• 25:04
  He
• 25:04
  connected
• 25:05
  with
• 25:05
  right
• 25:05
  away.
• 25:05
  And
• 25:05
  I
• 25:06
  said,
• 25:06
  this
• 25:06
  is
• 25:06
  my
• 25:06
  story.
• 25:07
  I'm
• 25:07
  a
• 25:07
  local
• 25:07
  author
• 25:08
  and
• 25:08
  I
• 25:09
  really
• 25:09
  need
• 25:09
  a
• 25:10
  desk.
• 25:10
  I
• 25:11
  need
• 25:11
  a
• 25:11
  website
• 25:12
  that
• 25:12
  someone
• 25:12
  else
• 25:12
  can
• 25:13
  develop
• 25:13
  for
• 25:13
  me.
• 25:13
  And
• 25:14
  will
• 25:14
  work
• 25:14
  with
• 25:14
  me
• 25:14
  on
• 25:15
  it.
• 25:15
  And
• 25:16
  long
• 25:16
  and
• 25:16
  short
• 25:16
  of
• 25:16
  it
• 25:17
  was
• 25:17
  he
• 25:17
  was
• 25:17
  again
• 25:18
  a
• 25:18
  very
• 25:18
  good
• 25:18
  fit
• 25:19
  and
• 25:19
  he
• 25:20
  engineered
• 25:21
  it
• 25:21
  and
• 25:21
  he's
• 25:22
  wonderful.
• 25:22
  I
• 25:23
  really.
• 25:24
  Anybody's
• 25:25
  out
• 25:25
  there
• 25:25
  looking
• 25:25
  for
• 25:25
  somebody.
• 25:26
  So
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  evolution.
• 25:27
  Tell
• 25:27
  me
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  little
• 25:28
  bit
• 25:28
  about
• 25:28
  that.
• 25:28
  Because
• 25:29
  from
• 25:29
  what
• 25:29
  I
• 25:30
  saw
• 25:30
  four
• 25:31
  weeks
• 25:31
  ago
• 25:31
  or
• 25:32
  at
• 25:32
  and
• 25:33
  now
• 25:33
  I've
• 25:33
  noticed
• 25:34
  so
• 25:34
  many
• 25:35
  changes
• 25:35
  already.
• 25:36
  Did
• 25:36
  you
• 25:37
  have
• 25:37
  a
• 25:37
  specific
• 25:38
  plan
• 25:38
  or
• 25:39
  is
• 25:39
  it
• 25:40
  just
• 25:40
  an
• 25:40
  evolution
• 25:41
  of
• 25:42
  as
• 25:42
  you're
• 25:43
  progressing
• 25:43
  through
• 25:44
  this
• 25:44
  children's
• 25:45
  author's
• 25:45
  journey?
• 25:46
  It's
• 25:47
  been
• 25:47
  both.
• 25:47
  He
• 25:47
  had
• 25:47
  a
• 25:48
  format
• 25:48
  definitely
• 25:49
  as
• 25:49
  far
• 25:49
  as
• 25:50
  like
• 25:50
  pages,
• 25:51
  what
• 25:51
  should
• 25:51
  be
• 25:51
  devoted
• 25:52
  to
• 25:52
  this
• 25:52
  and
• 25:53
  that.
• 25:53
  And
• 25:54
  another
• 25:54
  thing
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  came
• 25:55
  into
• 25:55
  play
• 25:56
  was
• 25:56
  that
• 25:57
  I
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  cousin
• 25:58
  of
• 25:58
  my
• 25:59
  husband's
• 26:00
  cousin,
• 26:01
  she
• 26:01
  is
• 26:02
  an
• 26:02
  author
• 26:02
  too,
• 26:03
  and
• 26:03
  she
• 26:04
  had
• 26:04
  published
• 26:05
  her
• 26:05
  books
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  she
• 26:06
  had
• 26:06
  self
• 26:06
  published
• 26:07
  and
• 26:07
  she
• 26:07
  had
• 26:07
  a
• 26:08
  website.
• 26:08
  So
• 26:09
  I
• 26:09
  was
• 26:09
  looking
• 26:09
  at
• 26:09
  her
• 26:10
  website
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  I
• 26:12
  would
• 26:12
  see
• 26:12
  things
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  I
• 26:13
  would
• 26:13
  think,
• 26:13
  yeah,
• 26:13
  I
• 26:13
  should
• 26:14
  include
• 26:14
  this
• 26:14
  and
• 26:14
  I
• 26:14
  should
• 26:15
  include
• 26:15
  that.
• 26:16
  And
• 26:16
  then
• 26:17
  also
• 26:18
  back
• 26:18
  to
• 26:18
  the
• 26:19
  marketing
• 26:19
  course
• 26:20
  with
• 26:20
  Bookfox,
• 26:21
  there
• 26:21
  was
• 26:22
  a
• 26:22
  format
• 26:22
  of
• 26:23
  things
• 26:23
  that
• 26:23
  you
• 26:24
  are
• 26:24
  important
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  include
• 26:25
  on
• 26:25
  your
• 26:25
  website.
• 26:26
  I
• 26:26
  would
• 26:26
  tell
• 26:27
  David,
• 26:27
  yeah,
• 26:28
  that's
• 26:28
  really
• 26:28
  good
• 26:28
  to
• 26:29
  include.
• 26:29
  But
• 26:29
  I
• 26:29
  Can
• 26:29
  you
• 26:30
  also
• 26:30
  do
• 26:30
  this
• 26:30
  and
• 26:31
  can
• 26:31
  you
• 26:31
  also
• 26:31
  do
• 26:31
  that?
• 26:32
  So
• 26:32
  communication
• 26:34
  with
• 26:34
  somebody,
• 26:35
  if
• 26:35
  you're
• 26:35
  not
• 26:36
  developing
• 26:36
  it
• 26:36
  yourself
• 26:38
  is
• 26:38
  really
• 26:38
  important
• 26:39
  for
• 26:39
  sure.
• 26:40
  Even
• 26:40
  if
• 26:40
  you
• 26:41
  are
• 26:41
  developing
• 26:42
  it
• 26:42
  yourself,
• 26:43
  make
• 26:44
  sure
• 26:44
  that
• 26:44
  you
• 26:44
  still
• 26:44
  are
• 26:45
  communicating
• 26:45
  in
• 26:46
  other
• 26:46
  ways
• 26:46
  with
• 26:46
  other
• 26:47
  authors,
• 26:48
  taking
• 26:49
  your
• 26:49
  time
• 26:49
  and
• 26:49
  seeing
• 26:50
  what
• 26:50
  else
• 26:50
  is
• 26:50
  out
• 26:51
  there.
• 26:51
  What
• 26:51
  do
• 26:51
  other
• 26:51
  authors
• 26:52
  websites
• 26:52
  look
• 26:53
  like?
• 26:53
  What
• 26:54
  might
• 26:54
  you
• 26:55
  want
• 26:55
  to
• 26:55
  include?
• 26:55
  Might.
• 26:56
  What
• 26:56
  might
• 26:56
  you
• 26:57
  not
• 26:57
  want
• 26:57
  to
• 26:58
  include
• 26:58
  on
• 26:58
  your
• 26:58
  own?
• 26:59
  Okay,
• 27:00
  yeah,
• 27:00
  because
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  noticed
• 27:01
  like,
• 27:01
  for
• 27:01
  example,
• 27:01
  you've
• 27:02
  got
• 27:03
  some
• 27:04
  activity
• 27:04
  pages.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:06
  that's
• 27:07
  very
• 27:07
  close
• 27:07
  to
• 27:08
  my
• 27:08
  heart
• 27:08
  because
• 27:08
  my
• 27:09
  granddaughter
• 27:10
  and
• 27:10
  I
• 27:11
  actually
• 27:11
  love
• 27:11
  this
• 27:12
  whole
• 27:12
  story
• 27:13
  storytelling
• 27:14
  process.
• 27:15
  And
• 27:15
  so
• 27:15
  we
• 27:16
  created
• 27:16
  activity
• 27:17
  pages
• 27:18
  that
• 27:18
  we
• 27:18
  actually
• 27:19
  added
• 27:19
  at
• 27:20
  the
• 27:20
  back
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  our
• 27:20
  book
• 27:21
  so
• 27:21
  that
• 27:22
  we
• 27:22
  encourage
• 27:23
  people
• 27:23
  to
• 27:24
  sit
• 27:24
  down,
• 27:25
  go
• 27:25
  through
• 27:25
  family
• 27:26
  photos
• 27:27
  and
• 27:27
  write
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  story.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  then
• 27:28
  we
• 27:28
  even
• 27:29
  made
• 27:29
  picture
• 27:29
  frames
• 27:30
  of
• 27:30
  railway
• 27:31
  tracks
• 27:31
  where
• 27:32
  you
• 27:32
  could
• 27:32
  actually
• 27:32
  draw
• 27:33
  your
• 27:34
  story.
• 27:34
  And
• 27:35
  so
• 27:35
  that's
• 27:35
  what
• 27:35
  we
• 27:36
  encourage
• 27:36
  people
• 27:36
  to
• 27:36
  do.
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  love
• 27:37
  the
• 27:37
  idea
• 27:37
  of
• 27:38
  activity
• 27:38
  pages.
• 27:39
  So
• 27:39
  tell
• 27:39
  me
• 27:39
  a
• 27:39
  little
• 27:40
  bit
• 27:40
  about
• 27:40
  the.
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  know
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  printed
• 27:42
  off
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  three
• 27:42
  activity
• 27:43
  pages
• 27:43
  you
• 27:44
  have
• 27:44
  on
• 27:44
  your
• 27:44
  website.
• 27:45
  Tell
• 27:45
  me
• 27:45
  how
• 27:46
  that
• 27:46
  all
• 27:46
  started.
• 27:47
  That's
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  teacher
• 27:48
  in
• 27:49
  me.
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  taught
• 27:50
  elementary,
• 27:50
  as
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  mentioned,
• 27:51
  and
• 27:51
  mostly
• 27:52
  my
• 27:52
  career
• 27:53
  was
• 27:53
  mostly
• 27:54
  centered
• 27:54
  at
• 27:54
  primary
• 27:55
  level.
• 27:55
  Okay,
• 27:56
  great.
• 27:56
  To
• 27:56
  be
• 27:57
  more
• 27:57
  specific.
• 27:58
  And
• 27:59
  one
• 27:59
  of
• 27:59
  the.
• 27:59
  I
• 27:59
  just,
• 27:59
  I.
• 28:00
  One
• 28:00
  of
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  things
• 28:00
  I
• 28:00
  love
• 28:00
  doing
• 28:01
  with
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  kids,
• 28:01
  we're
• 28:02
  having
• 28:02
  them
• 28:02
  do
• 28:03
  word
• 28:03
  searches,
• 28:04
  word
• 28:04
  finds.
• 28:05
  So
• 28:06
  it
• 28:06
  was
• 28:06
  one
• 28:06
  of
• 28:06
  the
• 28:07
  things
• 28:07
  that
• 28:07
  I
• 28:08
  actually
• 28:08
  tried
• 28:09
  to
• 28:09
  develop
• 28:09
  myself
• 28:10
  last
• 28:10
  Year,
• 28:10
  and
• 28:11
  it
• 28:11
  didn't
• 28:12
  really.
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  didn't,
• 28:13
  again,
• 28:13
  have
• 28:14
  the
• 28:14
  technology
• 28:15
  to
• 28:15
  do
• 28:15
  that.
• 28:16
  And
• 28:16
  even
• 28:17
  when
• 28:17
  you
• 28:17
  go
• 28:17
  on
• 28:17
  another
• 28:18
  site
• 28:18
  that
• 28:18
  can
• 28:18
  do
• 28:18
  it
• 28:18
  for
• 28:19
  you,
• 28:19
  I
• 28:19
  was
• 28:19
  a
• 28:19
  little
• 28:19
  bit
• 28:19
  nervous
• 28:20
  about
• 28:20
  copyright
• 28:20
  and
• 28:21
  stuff
• 28:21
  like
• 28:21
  that.
• 28:21
  Just
• 28:22
  put
• 28:22
  it
• 28:22
  on
• 28:22
  hold.
• 28:23
  And
• 28:23
  then
• 28:23
  it
• 28:24
  came
• 28:24
  back
• 28:24
  to
• 28:24
  me
• 28:24
  when
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  got
• 28:25
  the
• 28:25
  website
• 28:25
  and
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  thought,
• 28:26
  this
• 28:26
  is
• 28:26
  a
• 28:26
  good
• 28:27
  opportunity
• 28:27
  to
• 28:28
  try
• 28:28
  and
• 28:29
  get
• 28:29
  some
• 28:29
  of
• 28:29
  that
• 28:29
  stuff
• 28:30
  out
• 28:30
  there.
• 28:31
  It
• 28:31
  was
• 28:31
  basically
• 28:32
  based
• 28:32
  on
• 28:32
  things
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  used
• 28:33
  in
• 28:33
  the
• 28:33
  classroom.
• 28:34
  The.
• 28:34
  The
• 28:34
  word
• 28:34
  search.
• 28:35
  Then
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  thought,
• 28:36
  oh,
• 28:36
  it
• 28:36
  might
• 28:36
  be
• 28:36
  fun
• 28:36
  to
• 28:37
  develop
• 28:37
  a
• 28:37
  maze.
• 28:38
  And
• 28:39
  what
• 28:39
  else
• 28:39
  did
• 28:39
  I
• 28:39
  do?
• 28:40
  Now
• 28:40
  you've
• 28:40
  got
• 28:40
  your
• 28:40
  maze.
• 28:41
  And,
• 28:42
  yeah,
• 28:43
  it's
• 28:43
  funny
• 28:43
  you
• 28:43
  should
• 28:44
  mention
• 28:44
  maze,
• 28:44
  because
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  first
• 28:45
  time
• 28:45
  in
• 28:45
  my
• 28:46
  life,
• 28:46
  I
• 28:47
  actually
• 28:47
  went
• 28:47
  through
• 28:47
  a
• 28:48
  corn
• 28:48
  maze
• 28:49
  past
• 28:49
  summer,
• 28:50
  so
• 28:50
  that
• 28:50
  was
• 28:50
  funnier.
• 28:51
  Fall.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:52
  then
• 28:52
  there's
• 28:52
  your
• 28:52
  word
• 28:53
  search,
• 28:53
  and
• 28:53
  then
• 28:53
  you've
• 28:53
  got
• 28:54
  a
• 28:55
  word
• 28:55
  Scrabble
• 28:56
  scramble.
• 28:56
  That's
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  most
• 28:57
  recent.
• 28:58
  So
• 28:58
  in
• 28:58
  my
• 28:58
  case,
• 28:59
  I
• 28:59
  was
• 28:59
  able
• 28:59
  to
• 29:00
  say,
• 29:00
  David,
• 29:01
  can
• 29:01
  you
• 29:01
  tell.
• 29:02
  Can
• 29:02
  you
• 29:03
  develop
• 29:03
  a
• 29:03
  maze
• 29:04
  for
• 29:04
  me?
• 29:04
  David,
• 29:05
  can
• 29:05
  you
• 29:05
  develop
• 29:05
  a
• 29:06
  word
• 29:06
  there?
• 29:07
  It
• 29:07
  was.
• 29:07
  It
• 29:08
  was
• 29:08
  like
• 29:08
  magic.
• 29:09
  Oh,
• 29:09
  fantastic.
• 29:10
  Yeah,
• 29:10
  fantastic.
• 29:11
  No,
• 29:11
  it's.
• 29:11
  It's
• 29:12
  good.
• 29:12
  That
• 29:13
  again.
• 29:13
  So
• 29:14
  the.
• 29:14
  The
• 29:14
  activity
• 29:15
  pages
• 29:15
  for
• 29:16
  you
• 29:16
  grew
• 29:17
  out
• 29:17
  of
• 29:18
  trying
• 29:18
  to
• 29:19
  add
• 29:19
  more
• 29:20
  value
• 29:20
  to
• 29:21
  your
• 29:21
  website.
• 29:22
  And
• 29:22
  I
• 29:22
  just.
• 29:23
  I
• 29:23
  knew
• 29:23
  from
• 29:23
  experience
• 29:24
  how
• 29:24
  much
• 29:25
  kids
• 29:25
  enjoyed
• 29:26
  that.
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  had
• 29:26
  a
• 29:27
  word
• 29:27
  search
• 29:28
  every
• 29:28
  year,
• 29:28
  or,
• 29:29
  excuse
• 29:29
  me,
• 29:29
  every
• 29:30
  week
• 29:31
  in
• 29:31
  my
• 29:31
  classroom
• 29:32
  as
• 29:32
  a
• 29:32
  morning
• 29:33
  activity.
• 29:34
  It
• 29:34
  was
• 29:34
  themed
• 29:34
  to
• 29:35
  whatever
• 29:35
  we
• 29:35
  were
• 29:35
  doing
• 29:35
  in
• 29:35
  the
• 29:36
  classroom,
• 29:36
  whether
• 29:36
  it
• 29:36
  was
• 29:37
  a
• 29:37
  literature
• 29:37
  piece
• 29:38
  or
• 29:38
  a
• 29:38
  holiday
• 29:39
  or
• 29:39
  something
• 29:39
  like
• 29:40
  that.
• 29:40
  And
• 29:40
  the
• 29:40
  kids
• 29:41
  would
• 29:41
  come
• 29:41
  in
• 29:41
  and
• 29:41
  they
• 29:41
  were,
• 29:42
  like,
• 29:42
  thrilled
• 29:42
  to
• 29:43
  see
• 29:43
  it
• 29:43
  because
• 29:43
  we
• 29:43
  also
• 29:43
  had
• 29:44
  tables
• 29:44
  all
• 29:44
  over
• 29:45
  the
• 29:45
  room
• 29:45
  and
• 29:45
  they
• 29:45
  had
• 29:45
  little
• 29:45
  rugs
• 29:46
  they
• 29:46
  could
• 29:46
  work
• 29:46
  on
• 29:47
  or
• 29:47
  whatever,
• 29:48
  and
• 29:48
  they
• 29:48
  could
• 29:48
  move
• 29:48
  around
• 29:49
  the
• 29:49
  room
• 29:49
  and
• 29:49
  work
• 29:49
  together.
• 29:50
  We
• 29:50
  love
• 29:51
  to
• 29:51
  solve
• 29:51
  the
• 29:52
  word
• 29:52
  searches
• 29:53
  together.
• 29:53
  And
• 29:54
  there
• 29:54
  was
• 29:54
  a
• 29:54
  lot
• 29:54
  of
• 29:54
  excitement.
• 29:55
  It
• 29:55
  was
• 29:55
  anything
• 29:56
  that'll
• 29:57
  get
• 29:57
  the
• 29:57
  kids
• 29:57
  engaged
• 29:58
  with
• 29:58
  their
• 29:59
  minds
• 29:59
  and
• 29:59
  learning.
• 30:00
  And
• 30:00
  so
• 30:00
  I'm
• 30:01
  all
• 30:01
  about
• 30:01
  that.
• 30:02
  I
• 30:02
  want
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  transfer
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  into
• 30:03
  my
• 30:03
  writing
• 30:04
  and
• 30:04
  my
• 30:04
  books.
• 30:05
  Good
• 30:05
  for
• 30:05
  you.
• 30:06
  That's
• 30:06
  phenomenal.
• 30:07
  And
• 30:07
  you
• 30:07
  know
• 30:07
  what?
• 30:08
  I
• 30:08
  just
• 30:08
  love
• 30:09
  them.
• 30:10
  Like
• 30:10
  you
• 30:10
  said,
• 30:11
  they're
• 30:11
  fun,
• 30:11
  they're
• 30:11
  engaging.
• 30:12
  Actually,
• 30:13
  my
• 30:13
  wife
• 30:14
  loves
• 30:14
  doing
• 30:15
  word
• 30:15
  searches.
• 30:16
  She's
• 30:16
  bought
• 30:16
  this.
• 30:17
  She
• 30:17
  keeps
• 30:17
  buying
• 30:18
  these
• 30:18
  huge
• 30:19
  words
• 30:19
  shirt
• 30:20
  books,
• 30:21
  and
• 30:22
  she
• 30:22
  just
• 30:22
  loves
• 30:22
  it.
• 30:23
  So
• 30:23
  that's
• 30:23
  pretty
• 30:23
  cool.
• 30:24
  So
• 30:24
  that
• 30:24
  stays
• 30:24
  with
• 30:25
  you
• 30:25
  forever.
• 30:26
  It
• 30:26
  does,
• 30:26
  yeah,
• 30:27
  it
• 30:27
  does.
• 30:27
  Absolutely.
• 30:28
  I'm
• 30:28
  curious
• 30:29
  about
• 30:30
  your
• 30:30
  motivation.
• 30:31
  Like,
• 30:31
  you've
• 30:32
  talked
• 30:32
  a
• 30:32
  lot
• 30:32
  about
• 30:32
  that,
• 30:33
  but
• 30:33
  was
• 30:33
  there
• 30:33
  a
• 30:34
  specific
• 30:35
  person
• 30:36
  or
• 30:36
  a
• 30:37
  event
• 30:38
  that
• 30:38
  motivated
• 30:39
  you
• 30:39
  to
• 30:39
  say
• 30:40
  now?
• 30:40
  Because
• 30:41
  I
• 30:41
  know
• 30:41
  you
• 30:41
  talked
• 30:41
  about
• 30:42
  saying,
• 30:43
  oh,
• 30:43
  I
• 30:43
  could
• 30:43
  do
• 30:43
  that.
• 30:44
  Is
• 30:44
  there
• 30:44
  something
• 30:45
  a
• 30:45
  person
• 30:46
  or
• 30:46
  an
• 30:46
  event
• 30:46
  that
• 30:47
  said.
• 30:47
  You
• 30:47
  said,
• 30:48
  finally,
• 30:49
  I'm
• 30:49
  going
• 30:49
  to
• 30:49
  write
• 30:49
  my
• 30:50
  first
• 30:51
  children's
• 30:51
  book.
• 30:52
  I
• 30:52
  don't
• 30:53
  know
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  there
• 30:53
  was
• 30:53
  an
• 30:53
  actual
• 30:54
  like
• 30:55
  person.
• 30:56
  It
• 30:56
  was
• 30:56
  just
• 30:57
  something
• 30:58
  that
• 30:58
  I
• 30:59
  always
• 30:59
  wanted
• 30:59
  to
• 31:00
  do.
• 31:00
  It
• 31:00
  was
• 31:01
  like,
• 31:01
  now
• 31:01
  they
• 31:01
  use
• 31:01
  the
• 31:02
  term
• 31:02
  bucket
• 31:02
  list
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  lot
• 31:03
  back
• 31:04
  then.
• 31:04
  I
• 31:04
  wouldn't
• 31:04
  have
• 31:04
  thought
• 31:04
  of
• 31:05
  it
• 31:05
  that
• 31:05
  way.
• 31:06
  That
• 31:06
  term
• 31:06
  really
• 31:06
  wasn't
• 31:07
  in
• 31:07
  vogue.
• 31:07
  But
• 31:08
  it
• 31:09
  was
• 31:09
  like
• 31:09
  this
• 31:10
  almost
• 31:10
  like
• 31:10
  a.
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  don't
• 31:11
  know.
• 31:12
  I
• 31:12
  have
• 31:12
  heard
• 31:13
  the
• 31:13
  term
• 31:13
  holy
• 31:13
  disturbance,
• 31:14
  where
• 31:14
  there's
• 31:14
  something
• 31:15
  inside
• 31:15
  you
• 31:16
  that
• 31:16
  you
• 31:17
  really.
• 31:17
  I'm
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  very
• 31:18
  faith
• 31:18
  based
• 31:18
  person.
• 31:19
  So
• 31:19
  that
• 31:20
  phrase
• 31:20
  holy
• 31:20
  disturbance.
• 31:21
  Get
• 31:21
  that.
• 31:21
  I
• 31:22
  love
• 31:22
  that.
• 31:22
  That's
• 31:22
  cool.
• 31:23
  It's
• 31:23
  something
• 31:23
  that
• 31:24
  just,
• 31:25
  you
• 31:25
  know,
• 31:26
  I
• 31:26
  feel
• 31:26
  like
• 31:26
  this
• 31:26
  is
• 31:27
  something
• 31:27
  that
• 31:28
  I
• 31:28
  want
• 31:28
  to
• 31:28
  do.
• 31:28
  What
• 31:28
  I
• 31:29
  need
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  do.
• 31:29
  It
• 31:30
  was
• 31:30
  positive.
• 31:30
  It
• 31:30
  wasn't
• 31:31
  like
• 31:31
  something
• 31:31
  was
• 31:31
  gnawing
• 31:32
  at
• 31:32
  you
• 31:33
  in
• 31:33
  terms
• 31:33
  of
• 31:34
  negativity.
• 31:35
  It
• 31:35
  was
• 31:35
  positive
• 31:36
  that
• 31:36
  need
• 31:36
  to
• 31:37
  be
• 31:37
  released.
• 31:38
  Yeah.
• 31:38
  Yeah.
• 31:39
  Okay.
• 31:39
  And
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  thought
• 31:40
  I.
• 31:40
  It's
• 31:40
  an
• 31:41
  extension
• 31:41
  of
• 31:41
  me.
• 31:42
  I
• 31:42
  just
• 31:42
  want
• 31:42
  to.
• 31:43
  I
• 31:44
  approach
• 31:44
  my
• 31:45
  writing
• 31:45
  too
• 31:45
  in
• 31:46
  a
• 31:46
  way
• 31:46
  of
• 31:46
  teaching.
• 31:47
  I
• 31:47
  like
• 31:47
  teachable
• 31:48
  moments
• 31:49
  and
• 31:49
  stories
• 31:50
  and
• 31:50
  that
• 31:50
  again,
• 31:51
  it's
• 31:51
  so
• 31:51
  intertwined
• 31:52
  with
• 31:52
  teaching
• 31:53
  children
• 31:54
  and
• 31:54
  being
• 31:54
  trained
• 31:54
  to
• 31:55
  teach
• 31:55
  children.
• 31:56
  Absolutely.
• 31:56
  I
• 31:56
  like
• 31:57
  to
• 31:57
  have
• 31:57
  them
• 31:58
  think
• 31:58
  for
• 31:58
  themselves.
• 31:58
  I
• 31:59
  like
• 31:59
  them
• 31:59
  to
• 31:59
  problem
• 32:00
  solve.
• 32:00
  I
• 32:00
  like
• 32:01
  them
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  have
• 32:01
  conversations
• 32:02
  and
• 32:02
  develop
• 32:03
  their
• 32:04
  own
• 32:05
  in
• 32:05
  a
• 32:05
  way,
• 32:05
  thinking
• 32:05
  about
• 32:06
  their
• 32:06
  own
• 32:06
  thinking
• 32:07
  and
• 32:08
  meeting
• 32:08
  different
• 32:08
  characters
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  thinking.
• 32:10
  And
• 32:10
  what
• 32:11
  you
• 32:11
  can
• 32:11
  do
• 32:11
  in
• 32:12
  discussion
• 32:12
  with
• 32:12
  them
• 32:12
  too
• 32:13
  is
• 32:13
  would
• 32:13
  I
• 32:13
  have
• 32:14
  handled
• 32:14
  a
• 32:14
  situation
• 32:15
  the
• 32:15
  same
• 32:15
  way
• 32:16
  or
• 32:16
  would
• 32:17
  I
• 32:17
  change
• 32:17
  the
• 32:17
  ending?
• 32:18
  Would
• 32:18
  I
• 32:18
  have
• 32:18
  done
• 32:19
  something
• 32:19
  differently?
• 32:20
  And
• 32:20
  I
• 32:20
  actually,
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  talked
• 32:21
  about
• 32:21
  characters.
• 32:22
  So
• 32:22
  tell
• 32:23
  us
• 32:23
  a
• 32:23
  little
• 32:23
  bit
• 32:23
  about
• 32:24
  your
• 32:24
  character
• 32:25
  development,
• 32:25
  including
• 32:26
  your
• 32:26
  main
• 32:26
  character
• 32:27
  and
• 32:27
  Simon.
• 32:28
  Okay,
• 32:28
  so
• 32:28
  Simon,
• 32:29
  he's
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  beloved
• 32:30
  elf.
• 32:30
  He
• 32:31
  is
• 32:31
  like
• 32:31
  the
• 32:32
  chief
• 32:32
  elf.
• 32:33
  Yeah.
• 32:33
  And
• 32:34
  he's
• 32:34
  a
• 32:34
  good
• 32:34
  kid.
• 32:35
  He
• 32:35
  is
• 32:35
  a
• 32:35
  good
• 32:36
  leader.
• 32:37
  He
• 32:37
  knows
• 32:37
  how
• 32:37
  to
• 32:38
  organize
• 32:38
  teamwork.
• 32:39
  He's
• 32:39
  a
• 32:39
  fair
• 32:40
  leader
• 32:41
  and
• 32:42
  he's
• 32:42
  happy.
• 32:43
  He
• 32:44
  likes
• 32:44
  to
• 32:45
  be
• 32:45
  helpful
• 32:46
  and
• 32:46
  do
• 32:47
  a
• 32:47
  good
• 32:47
  job
• 32:47
  at
• 32:47
  things.
• 32:48
  And
• 32:49
  he
• 32:49
  left
• 32:49
  friends
• 32:50
  until
• 32:51
  he
• 32:52
  doesn't
• 32:52
  because
• 32:53
  there
• 32:54
  is
• 32:55
  Snow
• 32:56
  Dragon
• 32:56
  who
• 32:56
  comes
• 32:57
  in
• 32:57
  and
• 32:57
  it's
• 32:57
  just
• 32:58
  days
• 32:58
  before
• 32:59
  Christmas
• 32:59
  and
• 33:00
  everything's
• 33:01
  set
• 33:01
  to
• 33:01
  go.
• 33:01
  But
• 33:02
  then
• 33:02
  Snow
• 33:02
  Dragon
• 33:03
  comes
• 33:03
  in
• 33:03
  and
• 33:03
  puts
• 33:04
  makes
• 33:04
  a
• 33:04
  mess
• 33:05
  out
• 33:05
  of
• 33:05
  that.
• 33:06
  And
• 33:06
  unfortunately
• 33:08
  he
• 33:08
  makes
• 33:08
  it
• 33:08
  look
• 33:08
  like
• 33:09
  Simon
• 33:09
  is
• 33:09
  somehow
• 33:10
  involved
• 33:10
  in
• 33:10
  it.
• 33:11
  And
• 33:11
  heartbeat.
• 33:12
  Simon's
• 33:13
  friends
• 33:14
  are
• 33:14
  like,
• 33:15
  they're
• 33:15
  all
• 33:15
  pointing
• 33:15
  fingers
• 33:16
  at
• 33:16
  him,
• 33:16
  like,
• 33:16
  how
• 33:16
  could
• 33:17
  you
• 33:17
  do
• 33:17
  this?
• 33:17
  You're
• 33:18
  supposed
• 33:18
  to
• 33:18
  be
• 33:18
  our
• 33:18
  leader,
• 33:19
  your.
• 33:19
  Your
• 33:20
  example.
• 33:21
  And
• 33:21
  he's
• 33:21
  devastated.
• 33:23
  Luckily
• 33:23
  for
• 33:24
  him,
• 33:24
  Santa
• 33:24
  knows
• 33:25
  his
• 33:25
  heart.
• 33:26
  He
• 33:26
  knows
• 33:26
  he
• 33:26
  didn't
• 33:27
  do
• 33:27
  this.
• 33:27
  And
• 33:27
  like.
• 33:27
  And
• 33:28
  Santa
• 33:28
  does
• 33:28
  have
• 33:28
  a
• 33:28
  clue
• 33:29
  to
• 33:29
  who.
• 33:29
  Who
• 33:29
  did
• 33:30
  do
• 33:30
  it.
• 33:30
  So
• 33:30
  he
• 33:31
  asked
• 33:31
  Simon
• 33:31
  which
• 33:32
  come
• 33:32
  along
• 33:32
  with
• 33:32
  me
• 33:32
  and
• 33:33
  solve
• 33:33
  this
• 33:33
  problem.
• 33:33
  Because
• 33:34
  it's
• 33:34
  not
• 33:34
  the
• 33:34
  only
• 33:34
  problem
• 33:35
  Snow
• 33:35
  Dragon
• 33:35
  has
• 33:36
  caused.
• 33:36
  He's
• 33:37
  taken
• 33:37
  our
• 33:37
  Crystal
• 33:37
  Queen,
• 33:38
  too.
• 33:38
  And
• 33:39
  by
• 33:39
  the
• 33:39
  way,
• 33:40
  again,
• 33:41
  here's
• 33:41
  a
• 33:42
  point
• 33:42
  where
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  character
• 33:43
  of
• 33:44
  Simon
• 33:44
  is.
• 33:44
  He
• 33:45
  just.
• 33:45
  Everybody's
• 33:45
  mad
• 33:46
  at
• 33:46
  me.
• 33:46
  Why
• 33:46
  should
• 33:46
  I
• 33:46
  do
• 33:47
  this?
• 33:47
  Why
• 33:47
  should
• 33:47
  I
• 33:47
  put
• 33:48
  myself
• 33:48
  at
• 33:48
  risk?
• 33:49
  No.
• 33:49
  He
• 33:49
  steps
• 33:50
  up
• 33:50
  and
• 33:50
  he
• 33:50
  says,
• 33:50
  of
• 33:51
  course
• 33:51
  I'm
• 33:51
  going
• 33:51
  to
• 33:52
  go.
• 33:52
  Of
• 33:52
  course
• 33:52
  we're
• 33:52
  going
• 33:53
  to
• 33:53
  make
• 33:53
  this
• 33:53
  right.
• 33:53
  So
• 33:54
  that's
• 33:54
  where
• 33:54
  Simon's
• 33:55
  coming
• 33:55
  from.
• 33:55
  He's.
• 33:56
  His
• 33:56
  heart
• 33:56
  is
• 33:56
  in
• 33:57
  the
• 33:57
  right
• 33:57
  place,
• 33:57
  and
• 33:58
  he
• 33:58
  is
• 33:59
  going
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  continue
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  be
• 34:00
  a
• 34:00
  leader,
• 34:01
  and
• 34:01
  he's
• 34:01
  going
• 34:01
  to
• 34:02
  not
• 34:02
  last.
• 34:02
  Although
• 34:03
  he's
• 34:03
  hurt
• 34:04
  by
• 34:04
  his
• 34:04
  friends,
• 34:05
  he's
• 34:05
  not
• 34:05
  gonna
• 34:05
  let
• 34:06
  that
• 34:06
  stop
• 34:07
  him.
• 34:07
  I
• 34:07
  was
• 34:07
  just
• 34:08
  gonna
• 34:08
  say
• 34:08
  to
• 34:08
  you,
• 34:08
  as
• 34:08
  I
• 34:09
  had
• 34:09
  my
• 34:10
  youngest
• 34:11
  grandson
• 34:12
  read
• 34:12
  your
• 34:12
  book.
• 34:12
  I
• 34:13
  know,
• 34:13
  and
• 34:13
  it
• 34:14
  was
• 34:14
  a
• 34:14
  lot
• 34:14
  of
• 34:14
  fun.
• 34:14
  But
• 34:15
  here
• 34:15
  is
• 34:15
  the
• 34:15
  funny
• 34:16
  part
• 34:16
  is.
• 34:17
  Or
• 34:18
  interesting
• 34:18
  part.
• 34:18
  I
• 34:19
  don't
• 34:19
  know
• 34:19
  how
• 34:19
  you
• 34:19
  look
• 34:19
  at
• 34:19
  it,
• 34:20
  but
• 34:20
  when
• 34:20
  I.
• 34:20
  He
• 34:21
  read
• 34:21
  it
• 34:21
  before,
• 34:21
  I
• 34:22
  was
• 34:22
  going
• 34:22
  to
• 34:22
  take
• 34:22
  him
• 34:23
  to
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  movies.
• 34:23
  So
• 34:24
  I
• 34:24
  took
• 34:24
  him
• 34:24
  to
• 34:24
  the
• 34:25
  movies
• 34:26
  right
• 34:26
  after
• 34:26
  he
• 34:26
  read
• 34:27
  your
• 34:27
  book.
• 34:28
  And
• 34:28
  we
• 34:28
  went
• 34:28
  and
• 34:29
  saw
• 34:29
  the
• 34:30
  red
• 34:30
  one.
• 34:31
  It's
• 34:31
  called
• 34:31
  Red
• 34:32
  One
• 34:32
  with
• 34:32
  Dwayne
• 34:33
  Johnson.
• 34:34
  Dwayne
• 34:34
  Johnson.
• 34:35
  It's
• 34:35
  a
• 34:35
  Christmas
• 34:36
  movie,
• 34:36
  and
• 34:36
  Dwayne
• 34:37
  Johnson
• 34:38
  plays
• 34:39
  an
• 34:39
  elf.
• 34:40
  If
• 34:40
  you
• 34:40
  can
• 34:40
  imagine
• 34:41
  the
• 34:41
  size
• 34:42
  of
• 34:42
  Dwayne
• 34:43
  Johnson,
• 34:43
  he's
• 34:43
  playing
• 34:43
  this
• 34:44
  elf.
• 34:44
  So
• 34:45
  it
• 34:45
  was
• 34:45
  like
• 34:46
  such
• 34:46
  a
• 34:47
  timely
• 34:47
  thing.
• 34:47
  I
• 34:48
  couldn't
• 34:48
  believe
• 34:48
  it.
• 34:48
  But
• 34:49
  anyways,
• 34:49
  I
• 34:50
  digress
• 34:50
  there.
• 34:50
  But
• 34:51
  so
• 34:51
  sorry,
• 34:52
  go
• 34:52
  back
• 34:52
  to.
• 34:52
  You
• 34:52
  were
• 34:53
  talking
• 34:53
  about
• 34:53
  your
• 34:53
  theme.
• 34:54
  I
• 34:54
  just
• 34:54
  wanted
• 34:54
  to
• 34:55
  share
• 34:55
  that
• 34:55
  story
• 34:56
  with
• 34:56
  him.
• 34:56
  Yeah.
• 34:57
  And
• 34:57
  I
• 34:57
  like
• 34:57
  that.
• 34:57
  Yeah.
• 34:58
  I've
• 34:58
  seen
• 34:58
  the
• 34:58
  previews
• 34:59
  for
• 34:59
  it,
• 34:59
  the
• 35:00
  trailers
• 35:00
  for
• 35:00
  it.
• 35:01
  Yeah.
• 35:01
  For
• 35:01
  that
• 35:01
  movie.
• 35:02
  Yeah.
• 35:02
  So
• 35:02
  then
• 35:03
  they're
• 35:03
  going
• 35:04
  off.
• 35:04
  But
• 35:04
  the
• 35:04
  one
• 35:04
  character
• 35:05
  that
• 35:05
  I
• 35:06
  really
• 35:07
  wanted
• 35:07
  to
• 35:08
  have
• 35:09
  transformational
• 35:10
  was
• 35:11
  Snow
• 35:11
  Dragon,
• 35:12
  because
• 35:12
  here
• 35:13
  he
• 35:13
  is.
• 35:13
  Can
• 35:13
  you
• 35:13
  consider
• 35:14
  a
• 35:14
  dragon?
• 35:14
  He's
• 35:15
  big,
• 35:15
  he's
• 35:15
  powerful,
• 35:16
  He's.
• 35:16
  Usually
• 35:17
  they're
• 35:17
  not
• 35:17
  very
• 35:17
  friendly,
• 35:18
  but
• 35:18
  Trey,
• 35:19
  he's
• 35:19
  just
• 35:19
  misguided.
• 35:20
  He's
• 35:20
  a
• 35:20
  goofball.
• 35:21
  He's
• 35:21
  under
• 35:22
  the
• 35:22
  influence,
• 35:22
  for
• 35:22
  whatever
• 35:23
  reason,
• 35:23
  of
• 35:24
  the
• 35:24
  mayor
• 35:24
  of
• 35:25
  Meade,
• 35:26
  and
• 35:26
  he's
• 35:26
  going
• 35:26
  to
• 35:27
  do
• 35:27
  his
• 35:27
  bidding,
• 35:27
  which
• 35:28
  is
• 35:28
  disrupt
• 35:28
  Christmas
• 35:29
  for
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  Land
• 35:29
  of
• 35:30
  Glee
• 35:30
  and
• 35:30
  Santa
• 35:31
  and
• 35:32
  the
• 35:32
  kids
• 35:32
  around
• 35:33
  the
• 35:33
  world.
• 35:33
  And
• 35:34
  so
• 35:35
  he.
• 35:35
  He
• 35:35
  does
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  mayor
• 35:36
  of
• 35:36
  Means
• 35:36
  bidding,
• 35:37
  and
• 35:37
  he
• 35:37
  just
• 35:38
  goes
• 35:38
  and
• 35:38
  creates
• 35:38
  this
• 35:39
  problem.
• 35:39
  And
• 35:39
  then
• 35:40
  as
• 35:41
  Simon
• 35:41
  and
• 35:41
  Santa
• 35:42
  arrive
• 35:42
  and
• 35:43
  mean
• 35:43
  and
• 35:43
  things
• 35:44
  transpire,
• 35:45
  he
• 35:45
  starts
• 35:45
  to
• 35:46
  get
• 35:46
  a
• 35:46
  different
• 35:46
  perspective.
• 35:47
  And
• 35:48
  his
• 35:48
  Snow
• 35:49
  dragon
• 35:49
  and
• 35:50
  his
• 35:50
  perspective
• 35:51
  really
• 35:51
  starts
• 35:52
  to
• 35:52
  change
• 35:53
  when
• 35:54
  the
• 35:54
  mayor
• 35:54
  of
• 35:55
  me
• 35:55
  has
• 35:55
  the
• 35:56
  challenge
• 35:56
  before
• 35:56
  him
• 35:57
  that
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  only
• 35:57
  way
• 35:58
  that
• 35:58
  Simon's
• 35:58
  leaving
• 35:59
  and
• 35:59
  the
• 35:59
  Crystal
• 35:59
  Queen's
• 36:00
  leaving
• 36:00
  and
• 36:00
  these
• 36:00
  kids
• 36:01
  get
• 36:01
  to
• 36:01
  go
• 36:01
  with
• 36:02
  them,
• 36:02
  is
• 36:03
  if
• 36:03
  you
• 36:03
  fight
• 36:04
  him
• 36:04
  and
• 36:05
  you
• 36:05
  have
• 36:05
  to
• 36:05
  win
• 36:06
  the
• 36:06
  fight
• 36:07
  or
• 36:07
  he
• 36:07
  has
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  win
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  fight
• 36:08
  in
• 36:08
  order
• 36:08
  to
• 36:08
  be
• 36:08
  able
• 36:09
  to
• 36:09
  leave,
• 36:09
  it
• 36:09
  should
• 36:09
  not
• 36:10
  be
• 36:10
  a
• 36:10
  problem
• 36:10
  for
• 36:10
  you
• 36:10
  to
• 36:10
  defeat
• 36:11
  Simon.
• 36:11
  Saul
• 36:12
  is.
• 36:13
  Simon
• 36:13
  is.
• 36:14
  We
• 36:14
  know
• 36:14
  in
• 36:14
  the
• 36:15
  story
• 36:15
  he's
• 36:16
  successful,
• 36:17
  but
• 36:17
  instead
• 36:17
  of
• 36:17
  slaying
• 36:18
  the
• 36:18
  dragon,
• 36:19
  he
• 36:19
  makes
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  decision
• 36:20
  that
• 36:21
  I'm
• 36:21
  going
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  forgive
• 36:22
  him
• 36:22
  and
• 36:22
  I'm
• 36:22
  going
• 36:22
  to
• 36:23
  teach
• 36:23
  him
• 36:23
  that
• 36:23
  there's
• 36:24
  a
• 36:24
  better
• 36:24
  way.
• 36:25
  And
• 36:25
  so
• 36:26
  that's
• 36:26
  a
• 36:26
  big
• 36:27
  transformation
• 36:27
  for
• 36:28
  Snow
• 36:28
  Dragon.
• 36:29
  And
• 36:29
  so
• 36:29
  that
• 36:30
  really
• 36:30
  is.
• 36:31
  Did
• 36:31
  you
• 36:32
  like
• 36:32
  the
• 36:32
  central
• 36:33
  teaching
• 36:33
  behind
• 36:34
  that?
• 36:34
  Was
• 36:34
  that
• 36:34
  a
• 36:35
  message
• 36:35
  you
• 36:35
  had
• 36:36
  clear
• 36:36
  in
• 36:36
  your
• 36:36
  mind
• 36:37
  right
• 36:37
  from
• 36:37
  the
• 36:37
  beginning
• 36:38
  of
• 36:38
  the
• 36:38
  development
• 36:38
  of
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  story?
• 36:40
  Yes,
• 36:41
  it
• 36:41
  was.
• 36:41
  In
• 36:42
  fact,
• 36:42
  I
• 36:43
  shared
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  story
• 36:44
  last
• 36:44
  weekend
• 36:45
  at
• 36:46
  Barnes
• 36:46
  and
• 36:46
  Noble,
• 36:46
  actually,
• 36:47
  and
• 36:47
  a
• 36:48
  little
• 36:48
  boy
• 36:48
  that
• 36:49
  was
• 36:49
  in
• 36:49
  the
• 36:49
  audience,
• 36:50
  he
• 36:50
  said
• 36:50
  to
• 36:51
  me,
• 36:51
  actually,
• 36:51
  we
• 36:51
  were
• 36:52
  having
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  conversation
• 36:52
  after,
• 36:53
  and
• 36:54
  he's.
• 36:55
  I
• 36:55
  took.
• 36:56
  He
• 36:56
  took
• 36:56
  a
• 36:56
  picture
• 36:57
  with
• 36:57
  me.
• 36:57
  So
• 36:57
  that
• 36:57
  is
• 36:58
  the
• 36:58
  picture
• 36:58
  on
• 36:58
  my
• 36:58
  website
• 36:59
  for
• 36:59
  that
• 36:59
  event.
• 37:00
  And
• 37:01
  his
• 37:01
  mom
• 37:02
  came
• 37:02
  into
• 37:03
  the
• 37:03
  conversation
• 37:03
  and
• 37:04
  she
• 37:04
  said,
• 37:04
  Charlie
• 37:05
  said
• 37:05
  that
• 37:05
  he
• 37:06
  identifies
• 37:07
  with
• 37:07
  Simon
• 37:07
  and
• 37:08
  he's
• 37:08
  a
• 37:08
  fourth
• 37:08
  grader.
• 37:09
  And
• 37:09
  I
• 37:09
  said,
• 37:10
  oh,
• 37:10
  tell
• 37:11
  me
• 37:11
  about
• 37:11
  that.
• 37:11
  And
• 37:12
  he
• 37:12
  said,
• 37:12
  he
• 37:12
  goes,
• 37:12
  I.
• 37:12
  We,
• 37:13
  mom
• 37:13
  and
• 37:13
  I
• 37:14
  and
• 37:14
  my
• 37:14
  family,
• 37:14
  we
• 37:15
  really
• 37:15
  love
• 37:15
  animals.
• 37:16
  And
• 37:16
  it
• 37:16
  would
• 37:16
  have
• 37:16
  been
• 37:17
  our
• 37:17
  choice
• 37:17
  to
• 37:17
  spare
• 37:18
  the
• 37:18
  dragon
• 37:18
  as
• 37:19
  well,
• 37:19
  not
• 37:19
  to
• 37:20
  hurt
• 37:20
  them.
• 37:20
  Wow.
• 37:21
  Yeah.
• 37:21
  Yeah.
• 37:22
  I
• 37:22
  imagine
• 37:22
  from
• 37:23
  the
• 37:23
  review
• 37:24
  that
• 37:24
  we
• 37:25
  did,
• 37:25
  my
• 37:25
  grandson
• 37:26
  and
• 37:26
  I,
• 37:26
  I
• 37:26
  was
• 37:27
  so.
• 37:28
  Because
• 37:28
  I
• 37:28
  was
• 37:28
  quite
• 37:29
  interested
• 37:29
  because
• 37:29
  I
• 37:29
  told
• 37:29
  him
• 37:30
  I
• 37:30
  was
• 37:30
  going
• 37:30
  to
• 37:30
  be
• 37:30
  talking
• 37:31
  to
• 37:31
  you.
• 37:32
  And
• 37:32
  I
• 37:32
  didn't
• 37:32
  prompt
• 37:33
  him
• 37:33
  in
• 37:33
  any
• 37:33
  way.
• 37:34
  I
• 37:34
  just
• 37:34
  said,
• 37:35
  so
• 37:36
  what
• 37:36
  was
• 37:36
  the
• 37:37
  main
• 37:37
  message
• 37:37
  or
• 37:38
  what
• 37:38
  did
• 37:38
  you
• 37:38
  get
• 37:38
  from
• 37:39
  this,
• 37:39
  from
• 37:39
  the
• 37:40
  story?
• 37:40
  And
• 37:41
  he
• 37:41
  said,
• 37:41
  there's
• 37:42
  a
• 37:42
  good
• 37:42
  dragon
• 37:43
  in
• 37:43
  everyone.
• 37:44
  And
• 37:44
  that
• 37:45
  I,
• 37:45
  like,
• 37:45
  he
• 37:45
  caught
• 37:45
  me
• 37:46
  totally
• 37:46
  off
• 37:46
  guard
• 37:47
  that.
• 37:47
  He
• 37:48
  caught
• 37:48
  me
• 37:48
  off
• 37:48
  guard
• 37:48
  when
• 37:49
  I
• 37:49
  read
• 37:49
  that,
• 37:49
  too.
• 37:50
  Yeah.
• 37:50
  And
• 37:50
  so
• 37:51
  that.
• 37:51
  It's
• 37:51
  just
• 37:52
  so
• 37:52
  much
• 37:52
  fun
• 37:52
  that
• 37:53
  what.
• 37:54
  Children
• 37:54
  are
• 37:55
  very
• 37:55
  intuitive.
• 37:56
  It's
• 37:57
  just
• 37:57
  amazing
• 37:57
  as
• 37:57
  fruiting.
• 37:58
  Just
• 37:59
  amazing.
• 37:59
  They
• 37:59
  ask
• 38:00
  you
• 38:00
  too,
• 38:00
  if.
• 38:00
  What
• 38:00
  is
• 38:01
  your
• 38:01
  grandson's
• 38:02
  name?
• 38:02
  Cooper.
• 38:03
  Cooper.
• 38:04
  Yeah.
• 38:04
  I
• 38:04
  want
• 38:04
  to,
• 38:05
  like,
• 38:05
  I
• 38:05
  want
• 38:05
  to
• 38:05
  use
• 38:05
  that.
• 38:06
  Because
• 38:06
  he
• 38:06
  nailed
• 38:06
  it.
• 38:07
  That,
• 38:07
  to
• 38:07
  me
• 38:07
  was
• 38:08
  a
• 38:08
  message.
• 38:08
  I
• 38:08
  would
• 38:08
  hope.
• 38:09
  Oh,
• 38:09
  please
• 38:09
  do.
• 38:10
  Yeah,
• 38:11
  I
• 38:11
  would
• 38:11
  love
• 38:12
  it.
• 38:12
  This
• 38:12
  is
• 38:12
  a
• 38:13
  quote
• 38:13
  from
• 38:13
  Cooper.
• 38:14
  Absolutely.
• 38:15
  Please
• 38:15
  do.
• 38:16
  I
• 38:16
  know
• 38:16
  you
• 38:17
  had
• 38:17
  talked
• 38:17
  about
• 38:18
  writing
• 38:18
  and
• 38:19
  your
• 38:19
  love
• 38:19
  of
• 38:19
  writing
• 38:20
  and
• 38:20
  all
• 38:20
  of
• 38:20
  that.
• 38:21
  Tell
• 38:21
  us
• 38:22
  about.
• 38:22
  Because
• 38:22
  we're
• 38:23
  going
• 38:23
  to
• 38:23
  talk
• 38:23
  in
• 38:24
  a
• 38:24
  little
• 38:24
  bit
• 38:24
  about
• 38:24
  your
• 38:25
  next
• 38:25
  book,
• 38:25
  but
• 38:26
  tell
• 38:26
  us
• 38:26
  about
• 38:26
  your
• 38:27
  writing
• 38:27
  process.
• 38:28
  Can
• 38:28
  you
• 38:29
  share
• 38:29
  some
• 38:29
  insights
• 38:30
  into
• 38:30
  your,
• 38:30
  like,
• 38:31
  your
• 38:31
  whole
• 38:32
  development,
• 38:32
  your
• 38:33
  writing
• 38:33
  process?
• 38:34
  How.
• 38:34
  How
• 38:34
  do
• 38:35
  you
• 38:35
  go
• 38:35
  about
• 38:35
  this.
• 38:36
  I
• 38:36
  get
• 38:37
  ideas
• 38:37
  everywhere.
• 38:38
  I'd
• 38:38
  like
• 38:38
  to
• 38:38
  give
• 38:38
  you
• 38:39
  like
• 38:39
  a
• 38:39
  very
• 38:40
  specific
• 38:40
  example,
• 38:41
  but
• 38:41
  I,
• 38:41
  I
• 38:42
  don't
• 38:42
  know,
• 38:42
  they
• 38:42
  just
• 38:43
  pop
• 38:43
  into
• 38:43
  my
• 38:43
  head
• 38:44
  and
• 38:44
  I,
• 38:44
  I
• 38:44
  will
• 38:45
  write
• 38:45
  them
• 38:45
  down
• 38:46
  and
• 38:46
  keep.
• 38:47
  And,
• 38:47
  and
• 38:47
  then
• 38:47
  I
• 38:47
  go
• 38:48
  back
• 38:48
  to
• 38:48
  them
• 38:48
  and
• 38:49
  there's
• 38:49
  different
• 38:50
  phases
• 38:50
  of
• 38:50
  development
• 38:51
  with
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  ideas.
• 38:52
  Right.
• 38:53
  When
• 38:53
  I
• 38:53
  really
• 38:53
  get
• 38:53
  into
• 38:54
  a
• 38:54
  book
• 38:54
  and
• 38:55
  really
• 38:55
  get
• 38:55
  going
• 38:55
  on
• 38:56
  it,
• 38:56
  I
• 38:56
  don't
• 38:56
  tend
• 38:56
  to
• 38:56
  work
• 38:57
  on
• 38:57
  anything
• 38:57
  else.
• 38:58
  I
• 38:58
  tend
• 38:58
  to
• 38:58
  just
• 38:59
  keep
• 38:59
  with
• 38:59
  that
• 38:59
  book.
• 39:00
  Right.
• 39:00
  It's.
• 39:00
  I
• 39:01
  was
• 39:01
  trained
• 39:01
  in
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  writing
• 39:02
  process
• 39:02
  as
• 39:03
  a
• 39:03
  student
• 39:03
  and
• 39:04
  then
• 39:04
  as
• 39:04
  a
• 39:04
  teacher,
• 39:04
  I
• 39:05
  taught
• 39:05
  kids
• 39:05
  the
• 39:05
  writing
• 39:06
  process.
• 39:06
  So
• 39:06
  there's
• 39:07
  always
• 39:07
  the
• 39:07
  brainstorming
• 39:08
  and
• 39:08
  the
• 39:08
  pre
• 39:09
  writing.
• 39:09
  So
• 39:09
  again,
• 39:10
  you
• 39:10
  get
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  idea,
• 39:11
  jot
• 39:11
  it
• 39:12
  down.
• 39:12
  I
• 39:12
  call
• 39:13
  it
• 39:13
  framing
• 39:13
  it.
• 39:14
  I'll
• 39:14
  get
• 39:14
  different
• 39:15
  ideas
• 39:15
  to
• 39:15
  add
• 39:15
  to
• 39:16
  it.
• 39:16
  So
• 39:16
  then
• 39:16
  I
• 39:17
  develop
• 39:17
  it
• 39:17
  a
• 39:17
  little
• 39:18
  bit
• 39:18
  more.
• 39:18
  I
• 39:19
  don't
• 39:19
  again,
• 39:20
  really
• 39:20
  write
• 39:21
  very
• 39:21
  linear.
• 39:22
  I
• 39:22
  have
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  idea
• 39:23
  for
• 39:23
  the
• 39:24
  beginning,
• 39:24
  of
• 39:24
  course,
• 39:24
  but
• 39:25
  then
• 39:25
  the
• 39:25
  middle,
• 39:26
  the
• 39:26
  end.
• 39:26
  I
• 39:26
  don't
• 39:26
  have
• 39:27
  a
• 39:27
  set
• 39:27
  of
• 39:27
  this
• 39:28
  is
• 39:28
  going
• 39:28
  to
• 39:28
  happen
• 39:28
  in
• 39:28
  the
• 39:28
  middle.
• 39:29
  And
• 39:29
  this
• 39:29
  is
• 39:29
  going
• 39:29
  to.
• 39:29
  How
• 39:30
  it's,
• 39:30
  this
• 39:30
  is
• 39:30
  how
• 39:30
  it's
• 39:31
  going
• 39:31
  to
• 39:31
  end.
• 39:31
  It
• 39:32
  evolves
• 39:33
  and
• 39:33
  different
• 39:34
  experiences
• 39:35
  or
• 39:35
  just
• 39:36
  even
• 39:36
  conversations
• 39:37
  I'm
• 39:37
  having
• 39:38
  with
• 39:38
  somebody,
• 39:38
  maybe
• 39:38
  if
• 39:39
  I'm
• 39:39
  sharing
• 39:39
  some
• 39:39
  of
• 39:39
  my
• 39:40
  ideas
• 39:40
  with
• 39:40
  them
• 39:41
  that
• 39:41
  can
• 39:42
  tweak
• 39:42
  my
• 39:43
  idea
• 39:43
  and
• 39:44
  tweak
• 39:44
  where
• 39:44
  I'm
• 39:45
  going
• 39:45
  with
• 39:45
  that.
• 39:46
  Yeah.
• 39:46
  And
• 39:47
  often,
• 39:47
  very
• 39:47
  often,
• 39:48
  like
• 39:48
  Snow
• 39:48
  Dragon
• 39:49
  too,
• 39:49
  that
• 39:49
  I
• 39:49
  knew
• 39:50
  at
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  end
• 39:50
  he
• 39:50
  was
• 39:51
  going
• 39:51
  to
• 39:52
  transform,
• 39:53
  but
• 39:53
  I
• 39:53
  didn't
• 39:53
  know
• 39:54
  exactly
• 39:54
  how.
• 39:55
  I
• 39:55
  didn't
• 39:55
  have
• 39:56
  all
• 39:56
  those
• 39:56
  details
• 39:56
  in
• 39:57
  place.
• 39:57
  Right.
• 39:58
  It's
• 39:58
  interesting
• 39:58
  you
• 39:59
  should
• 39:59
  say
• 39:59
  that
• 39:59
  because
• 39:59
  even
• 40:00
  when
• 40:00
  I
• 40:00
  started
• 40:01
  my
• 40:02
  children's
• 40:02
  book
• 40:03
  author
• 40:03
  writing
• 40:03
  journey,
• 40:04
  of
• 40:04
  course
• 40:05
  it
• 40:05
  was
• 40:05
  with
• 40:05
  my
• 40:05
  oldest
• 40:06
  granddaughter,
• 40:07
  we
• 40:07
  had
• 40:07
  all
• 40:07
  these
• 40:08
  things
• 40:08
  floating
• 40:08
  around
• 40:09
  in
• 40:09
  our
• 40:09
  mind.
• 40:10
  And
• 40:11
  I
• 40:11
  remember
• 40:11
  her
• 40:12
  saying
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  me,
• 40:12
  because
• 40:13
  there
• 40:13
  was
• 40:13
  a
• 40:13
  local
• 40:14
  farmer's
• 40:14
  market
• 40:15
  every
• 40:15
  Saturday
• 40:16
  and
• 40:16
  we
• 40:17
  would
• 40:17
  go
• 40:17
  to
• 40:17
  it
• 40:18
  and
• 40:18
  one
• 40:19
  of
• 40:19
  them
• 40:19
  had
• 40:20
  these
• 40:20
  journals.
• 40:21
  And
• 40:22
  because
• 40:22
  it
• 40:22
  was
• 40:22
  in
• 40:22
  the
• 40:22
  Rocky
• 40:23
  Mountains,
• 40:23
  it
• 40:23
  was
• 40:24
  a
• 40:24
  journal
• 40:24
  with.
• 40:24
  It
• 40:25
  had
• 40:25
  leaves
• 40:25
  and
• 40:26
  looked
• 40:26
  very
• 40:27
  natureish.
• 40:28
  So
• 40:28
  she
• 40:28
  said
• 40:28
  to
• 40:29
  me,
• 40:29
  can
• 40:29
  we
• 40:29
  get
• 40:29
  a
• 40:29
  journal
• 40:30
  and
• 40:31
  start
• 40:31
  writing
• 40:31
  our
• 40:32
  story?
• 40:32
  And
• 40:32
  I
• 40:32
  said,
• 40:33
  absolutely.
• 40:33
  But
• 40:34
  what
• 40:34
  was
• 40:34
  interesting
• 40:35
  about
• 40:35
  that
• 40:35
  is
• 40:35
  we
• 40:36
  not
• 40:36
  only
• 40:36
  wrote
• 40:36
  the
• 40:37
  story,
• 40:37
  but
• 40:37
  then
• 40:38
  all
• 40:38
  of
• 40:38
  a
• 40:38
  sudden
• 40:39
  she
• 40:40
  said,
• 40:40
  papa,
• 40:41
  can
• 40:41
  we
• 40:41
  just
• 40:42
  write
• 40:42
  down
• 40:42
  ideas
• 40:43
  for
• 40:43
  more
• 40:44
  stories?
• 40:45
  And
• 40:46
  that
• 40:46
  was
• 40:46
  the
• 40:46
  framework
• 40:47
  for
• 40:48
  all
• 40:48
  these
• 40:49
  stories
• 40:49
  that
• 40:49
  we've
• 40:50
  put
• 40:50
  together
• 40:50
  over
• 40:50
  the
• 40:51
  years
• 40:51
  is
• 40:52
  it
• 40:52
  all
• 40:52
  started
• 40:53
  from
• 40:53
  that
• 40:54
  simple
• 40:54
  thing
• 40:55
  by
• 40:55
  just
• 40:55
  getting
• 40:56
  a.
• 40:56
  Even
• 40:56
  just
• 40:57
  getting
• 40:57
  a
• 40:57
  journal
• 40:58
  and
• 40:58
  as
• 40:58
  you
• 40:58
  said,
• 40:59
  just
• 41:00
  putting
• 41:00
  the
• 41:00
  idea
• 41:01
  down
• 41:01
  and
• 41:01
  then
• 41:02
  does
• 41:02
  it
• 41:02
  turn
• 41:02
  into
• 41:03
  something?
• 41:03
  You
• 41:03
  never
• 41:03
  know.
• 41:04
  But
• 41:04
  yeah.
• 41:05
  Thank
• 41:05
  you
• 41:05
  for
• 41:05
  sharing
• 41:06
  that
• 41:07
  and
• 41:07
  one.
• 41:08
  Other
• 41:08
  thing
• 41:08
  I
• 41:08
  was
• 41:08
  going
• 41:08
  to
• 41:08
  say
• 41:09
  personally,
• 41:09
  like
• 41:10
  again,
• 41:10
  I.
• 41:10
  One
• 41:11
  of
• 41:11
  my
• 41:11
  main
• 41:11
  loves
• 41:12
  of
• 41:12
  writing
• 41:13
  was
• 41:13
  poetry,
• 41:14
  so.
• 41:14
  And
• 41:14
  Santa
• 41:15
  Simon
• 41:15
  is
• 41:16
  written
• 41:16
  in
• 41:16
  rhyming.
• 41:17
  My
• 41:17
  next
• 41:17
  book
• 41:17
  is
• 41:18
  written
• 41:18
  in
• 41:18
  rhyming.
• 41:19
  A
• 41:19
  lot
• 41:19
  of
• 41:20
  times
• 41:20
  what
• 41:20
  happens
• 41:21
  too
• 41:21
  is
• 41:21
  when
• 41:21
  I
• 41:21
  get
• 41:21
  an
• 41:22
  idea,
• 41:22
  I
• 41:22
  have
• 41:22
  a
• 41:22
  few
• 41:23
  verses
• 41:24
  that
• 41:24
  just
• 41:24
  come
• 41:24
  to
• 41:24
  mind,
• 41:25
  rhyming
• 41:26
  verses.
• 41:26
  And
• 41:26
  I
• 41:26
  just
• 41:27
  jot
• 41:27
  those
• 41:27
  down
• 41:28
  and
• 41:28
  sometimes
• 41:29
  it
• 41:29
  just
• 41:30
  way
• 41:30
  I
• 41:30
  go
• 41:30
  with
• 41:30
  it.
• 41:31
  Yeah.
• 41:31
  Incredible.
• 41:32
  Incredible.
• 41:33
  I'm
• 41:33
  curious
• 41:34
  on
• 41:35
  how
• 41:36
  you
• 41:36
  measure
• 41:37
  the
• 41:37
  success
• 41:38
  of
• 41:38
  your
• 41:38
  book.
• 41:39
  And
• 41:40
  it's
• 41:40
  interesting
• 41:41
  because
• 41:41
  I
• 41:41
  think
• 41:41
  most
• 41:42
  children's
• 41:42
  book
• 41:43
  authors
• 41:43
  like
• 41:43
  it's.
• 41:44
  You
• 41:44
  gotta
• 41:45
  sell
• 41:45
  thousands
• 41:46
  of
• 41:46
  do
• 41:46
  of
• 41:47
  books
• 41:47
  to
• 41:48
  actually
• 41:48
  even
• 41:49
  just
• 41:49
  pay
• 41:49
  to
• 41:50
  do
• 41:50
  your
• 41:50
  next
• 41:50
  book.
• 41:51
  Absolutely.
• 41:52
  And
• 41:53
  I
• 41:53
  guess
• 41:53
  I
• 41:53
  want
• 41:53
  to
• 41:53
  make
• 41:54
  it
• 41:54
  clear
• 41:54
  for
• 41:54
  the
• 41:55
  audience
• 41:56
  this
• 41:56
  isn't
• 41:56
  a
• 41:56
  path
• 41:57
  of
• 41:57
  fame
• 41:57
  and
• 41:58
  fortune.
• 41:59
  It's
• 42:00
  definitely
• 42:00
  got
• 42:00
  to
• 42:00
  be
• 42:01
  about
• 42:01
  passion
• 42:02
  and
• 42:02
  else
• 42:02
  is
• 42:03
  going
• 42:03
  on
• 42:03
  in
• 42:03
  your
• 42:03
  life
• 42:04
  that
• 42:04
  you'd
• 42:04
  like
• 42:04
  to
• 42:05
  transform
• 42:05
  into
• 42:06
  a
• 42:06
  story.
• 42:06
  So
• 42:07
  tell
• 42:07
  me
• 42:07
  a
• 42:08
  little
• 42:08
  bit
• 42:08
  about
• 42:09
  your
• 42:10
  feeling
• 42:10
  about
• 42:11
  success
• 42:12
  and
• 42:12
  what's
• 42:13
  this
• 42:13
  doing
• 42:13
  for
• 42:14
  you
• 42:14
  and
• 42:15
  why
• 42:15
  would
• 42:15
  it
• 42:15
  lead
• 42:15
  you
• 42:16
  to
• 42:16
  your
• 42:16
  next
• 42:16
  book?
• 42:17
  Success
• 42:18
  for
• 42:18
  me
• 42:19
  is
• 42:19
  mostly
• 42:20
  comes
• 42:20
  from
• 42:20
  the
• 42:21
  children
• 42:21
  themselves.
• 42:22
  Again,
• 42:23
  like
• 42:23
  getting
• 42:23
  back
• 42:23
  to
• 42:24
  cooperation.
• 42:25
  His
• 42:26
  into
• 42:26
  what
• 42:27
  my
• 42:28
  message
• 42:29
  is
• 42:29
  and
• 42:30
  was
• 42:31
  just
• 42:32
  so
• 42:32
  reaffirming
• 42:33
  for
• 42:33
  me.
• 42:33
  And
• 42:34
  it
• 42:34
  was
• 42:34
  thrilling,
• 42:35
  honestly.
• 42:36
  And
• 42:37
  I
• 42:37
  felt,
• 42:38
  yeah,
• 42:38
  he
• 42:38
  had
• 42:38
  success
• 42:39
  in
• 42:39
  communicating
• 42:40
  that.
• 42:41
  Communicating
• 42:42
  that
• 42:42
  change
• 42:43
  is
• 42:43
  possible.
• 42:44
  And
• 42:45
  we
• 42:45
  do.
• 42:45
  We
• 42:46
  are
• 42:46
  essentially.
• 42:47
  And
• 42:47
  kids
• 42:47
  especially,
• 42:48
  I
• 42:48
  want
• 42:48
  them
• 42:48
  to
• 42:48
  know
• 42:49
  that
• 42:49
  they
• 42:49
  are
• 42:49
  essentially
• 42:50
  just
• 42:50
  good.
• 42:51
  Absolutely.
• 42:52
  And
• 42:52
  their
• 42:52
  essence
• 42:53
  is
• 42:53
  good.
• 42:54
  When
• 42:54
  parents
• 42:55
  tell
• 42:55
  me
• 42:56
  that
• 42:56
  they
• 42:57
  keep
• 42:57
  wanting
• 42:57
  to
• 42:57
  hear
• 42:57
  the
• 42:58
  story
• 42:58
  over
• 42:58
  and
• 42:58
  over
• 42:59
  again.
• 43:00
  I
• 43:00
  love
• 43:00
  that
• 43:01
  when
• 43:01
  I
• 43:01
  hear
• 43:02
  people
• 43:02
  that
• 43:03
  again
• 43:03
  had
• 43:04
  come
• 43:04
  to
• 43:04
  me
• 43:04
  and
• 43:04
  said
• 43:05
  this
• 43:05
  has
• 43:05
  become
• 43:05
  a
• 43:06
  tradition
• 43:06
  for
• 43:06
  us
• 43:07
  to
• 43:07
  read
• 43:07
  your
• 43:07
  story
• 43:08
  every
• 43:08
  year.
• 43:09
  That's
• 43:09
  a
• 43:09
  success
• 43:10
  to
• 43:10
  me.
• 43:11
  It's
• 43:12
  just.
• 43:12
  It's
• 43:13
  a
• 43:13
  personal
• 43:14
  achievement
• 43:15
  that
• 43:16
  I
• 43:16
  was
• 43:17
  able
• 43:17
  to
• 43:18
  pursue
• 43:19
  this,
• 43:19
  that
• 43:19
  I
• 43:20
  have
• 43:20
  the
• 43:20
  time
• 43:20
  to
• 43:20
  do
• 43:21
  it
• 43:21
  and
• 43:21
  I
• 43:21
  have
• 43:22
  the
• 43:22
  energy
• 43:22
  to
• 43:22
  do
• 43:23
  it.
• 43:23
  It's
• 43:24
  not
• 43:24
  been
• 43:25
  easy.
• 43:25
  All
• 43:25
  the
• 43:25
  time
• 43:26
  is
• 43:26
  absolutely
• 43:26
  a
• 43:27
  lot
• 43:27
  of
• 43:27
  frustration.
• 43:28
  It
• 43:29
  can
• 43:29
  be
• 43:29
  very
• 43:29
  overwhelming.
• 43:30
  And
• 43:30
  what
• 43:31
  I've
• 43:31
  yet
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  learn
• 43:32
  and
• 43:32
  one
• 43:33
  of
• 43:33
  the
• 43:33
  things
• 43:33
  that
• 43:33
  I
• 43:34
  have
• 43:34
  found
• 43:34
  has
• 43:35
  been
• 43:35
  a
• 43:36
  success.
• 43:36
  I
• 43:36
  didn't.
• 43:37
  It
• 43:37
  wasn't
• 43:38
  obvious.
• 43:38
  It
• 43:38
  was
• 43:38
  more
• 43:39
  of
• 43:39
  a
• 43:39
  hidden
• 43:39
  kind
• 43:39
  of
• 43:40
  a
• 43:40
  thing
• 43:40
  that
• 43:40
  just
• 43:41
  I
• 43:41
  started
• 43:41
  to
• 43:41
  realize
• 43:42
  is
• 43:42
  that
• 43:43
  the
• 43:43
  whole
• 43:43
  process,
• 43:44
  through
• 43:44
  the
• 43:44
  whole
• 43:45
  process,
• 43:45
  I've
• 43:45
  grown.
• 43:46
  I've
• 43:47
  been
• 43:47
  doing
• 43:48
  different
• 43:48
  things
• 43:49
  and
• 43:49
  exploring
• 43:49
  different
• 43:50
  things
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  never
• 43:50
  thought
• 43:51
  I
• 43:52
  would
• 43:52
  have
• 43:53
  as
• 43:53
  part
• 43:53
  of
• 43:54
  my
• 43:54
  experience.
• 43:55
  Being
• 43:55
  on
• 43:56
  a
• 43:56
  podcast
• 43:56
  is
• 43:56
  one
• 43:57
  of
• 43:57
  them.
• 43:57
  It's
• 43:57
  interesting
• 43:58
  that
• 43:58
  you
• 43:58
  should
• 43:58
  say
• 43:59
  that
• 43:59
  because
• 43:59
  as
• 43:59
  a
• 44:00
  teacher,
• 44:01
  it's.
• 44:01
  You're
• 44:02
  a
• 44:02
  lifelong
• 44:02
  learner.
• 44:03
  I
• 44:03
  would
• 44:04
  think
• 44:04
  that
• 44:04
  most
• 44:05
  teachers,
• 44:05
  whether
• 44:06
  they're
• 44:06
  active
• 44:07
  or
• 44:07
  retired,
• 44:08
  are
• 44:08
  still
• 44:09
  lifelong
• 44:10
  learners.
• 44:11
  And
• 44:11
  with.
• 44:12
  To
• 44:12
  your
• 44:13
  point,
• 44:13
  technology,
• 44:14
  we're
• 44:14
  all.
• 44:15
  You
• 44:15
  either
• 44:15
  embrace
• 44:16
  it
• 44:16
  or
• 44:16
  you
• 44:17
  get
• 44:17
  left
• 44:18
  behind.
• 44:19
  It
• 44:19
  can
• 44:19
  make
• 44:19
  a
• 44:20
  big
• 44:20
  difference
• 44:20
  in
• 44:20
  your
• 44:21
  life,
• 44:21
  in
• 44:22
  how
• 44:22
  you
• 44:22
  view
• 44:23
  life
• 44:23
  and
• 44:24
  how
• 44:24
  you
• 44:24
  develop
• 44:24
  and
• 44:25
  stuff
• 44:25
  like
• 44:25
  that.
• 44:26
  Because
• 44:26
  I
• 44:26
  can.
• 44:26
  I,
• 44:27
  like
• 44:27
  I.
• 44:27
  We
• 44:27
  were
• 44:27
  talking,
• 44:28
  I
• 44:28
  could
• 44:28
  see
• 44:28
  the
• 44:28
  smile
• 44:29
  on
• 44:29
  your
• 44:29
  face
• 44:29
  about
• 44:30
  even
• 44:30
  your
• 44:30
  website,
• 44:31
  how
• 44:31
  much
• 44:32
  it's
• 44:32
  transformed.
• 44:33
  That's
• 44:33
  technology.
• 44:34
  And
• 44:34
  even
• 44:34
  though
• 44:35
  it
• 44:35
  may
• 44:35
  not.
• 44:36
  You
• 44:36
  may
• 44:36
  not
• 44:36
  be
• 44:37
  the
• 44:37
  one
• 44:38
  doing
• 44:39
  the
• 44:39
  technical
• 44:40
  stuff,
• 44:40
  you're
• 44:40
  driving
• 44:41
  the
• 44:41
  inspiration
• 44:42
  behind
• 44:42
  it.
• 44:43
  And
• 44:43
  that
• 44:43
  must
• 44:44
  be.
• 44:44
  Feel
• 44:44
  good.
• 44:45
  It
• 44:45
  does,
• 44:46
  yeah.
• 44:46
  And
• 44:46
  you
• 44:46
  know
• 44:47
  what?
• 44:47
  It's
• 44:47
  seeing
• 44:47
  your
• 44:48
  ideas
• 44:48
  actually
• 44:49
  take
• 44:49
  life
• 44:50
  and
• 44:50
  become
• 44:50
  reality.
• 44:52
  Seeing
• 44:52
  your
• 44:52
  characters
• 44:53
  like
• 44:54
  in
• 44:54
  real
• 44:54
  time,
• 44:55
  in
• 44:55
  real
• 44:55
  life.
• 44:56
  So
• 44:56
  I
• 44:56
  love
• 44:57
  that
• 44:57
  I
• 44:58
  forgot
• 44:59
  to.
• 44:59
  Ask
• 44:59
  you
• 44:59
  because
• 45:00
  I
• 45:00
  remember
• 45:00
  when
• 45:00
  I
• 45:00
  looked
• 45:01
  at
• 45:01
  your
• 45:01
  website,
• 45:01
  it
• 45:02
  said
• 45:02
  merch,
• 45:03
  merchandising
• 45:03
  store
• 45:04
  coming
• 45:04
  soon.
• 45:05
  But
• 45:05
  it's
• 45:05
  there.
• 45:06
  Share
• 45:07
  that
• 45:07
  with
• 45:07
  us.
• 45:07
  Like,
• 45:08
  how
• 45:08
  did
• 45:08
  it
• 45:09
  go
• 45:09
  from
• 45:10
  it's
• 45:10
  coming
• 45:11
  soon
• 45:12
  to
• 45:13
  life?
• 45:13
  Can
• 45:13
  you
• 45:14
  tell
• 45:14
  us
• 45:14
  who,
• 45:15
  what
• 45:15
  platform
• 45:15
  are
• 45:16
  you
• 45:16
  using?
• 45:16
  How
• 45:17
  did
• 45:17
  you
• 45:17
  develop
• 45:17
  it?
• 45:18
  I
• 45:18
  looked
• 45:18
  at
• 45:18
  some
• 45:19
  of
• 45:19
  your,
• 45:19
  like
• 45:19
  I
• 45:19
  looked
• 45:20
  at
• 45:20
  the
• 45:20
  one
• 45:21
  mug,
• 45:21
  the
• 45:21
  mug
• 45:22
  with
• 45:22
  the
• 45:22
  Christmas.
• 45:23
  When
• 45:23
  they're.
• 45:23
  When
• 45:23
  the
• 45:24
  elves
• 45:24
  are
• 45:24
  in
• 45:24
  the
• 45:25
  workshop.
• 45:25
  Love
• 45:26
  that.
• 45:26
  That's
• 45:26
  a
• 45:27
  beautiful
• 45:27
  mug.
• 45:28
  And
• 45:28
  you've
• 45:28
  got,
• 45:28
  of
• 45:28
  course,
• 45:28
  you
• 45:29
  got
• 45:29
  all
• 45:29
  the
• 45:29
  graphics
• 45:29
  from
• 45:30
  your
• 45:30
  book.
• 45:30
  But
• 45:30
  tell
• 45:31
  us,
• 45:31
  how
• 45:31
  did
• 45:32
  you
• 45:32
  bring
• 45:32
  your
• 45:33
  life?
• 45:34
  If
• 45:34
  I
• 45:34
  said
• 45:34
  to
• 45:35
  you,
• 45:35
  okay,
• 45:35
  Terry,
• 45:36
  please
• 45:36
  instruct
• 45:37
  us.
• 45:37
  You've
• 45:37
  got
• 45:38
  exactly
• 45:38
  five
• 45:39
  minutes
• 45:39
  on
• 45:40
  how
• 45:40
  you
• 45:41
  develop
• 45:41
  this
• 45:42
  store.
• 45:42
  Can
• 45:42
  you
• 45:43
  tell
• 45:43
  us
• 45:43
  that
• 45:43
  story?
• 45:44
  Yeah,
• 45:45
  basically,
• 45:45
  that's
• 45:45
  all
• 45:45
  David,
• 45:46
  who
• 45:46
  is
• 45:46
  the
• 45:47
  graphic
• 45:47
  designer,
• 45:48
  When
• 45:49
  I
• 45:49
  approached
• 45:50
  him
• 45:50
  about
• 45:50
  the
• 45:50
  website,
• 45:51
  there
• 45:51
  were.
• 45:51
  There
• 45:52
  are
• 45:52
  two
• 45:52
  styles
• 45:52
  of
• 45:52
  website
• 45:53
  that
• 45:54
  he
• 45:54
  offered
• 45:54
  and
• 45:54
  I,
• 45:54
  I
• 45:55
  think
• 45:55
  it's
• 45:55
  pretty
• 45:55
  basic.
• 45:56
  You
• 45:56
  can
• 45:57
  do
• 45:57
  a
• 45:58
  website
• 45:58
  which
• 45:59
  is
• 45:59
  just
• 46:00
  like
• 46:00
  more
• 46:00
  for
• 46:01
  information
• 46:01
  or
• 46:01
  you
• 46:01
  can
• 46:02
  do
• 46:02
  a
• 46:02
  commerce.
• 46:03
  So
• 46:03
  the
• 46:03
  store
• 46:04
  end
• 46:04
  of
• 46:04
  it
• 46:04
  is
• 46:04
  a
• 46:04
  commerce.
• 46:05
  And
• 46:06
  getting
• 46:06
  back
• 46:06
  to
• 46:07
  Erin
• 46:07
  Murphy,
• 46:08
  was
• 46:08
  that
• 46:08
  author,
• 46:09
  the
• 46:09
  cousin
• 46:10
  I
• 46:10
  mentioned.
• 46:10
  And
• 46:11
  again,
• 46:11
  she's
• 46:12
  somebody
• 46:12
  to
• 46:13
  look
• 46:13
  up.
• 46:13
  She's
• 46:13
  wonderful.
• 46:14
  But
• 46:15
  on
• 46:15
  her
• 46:15
  way,
• 46:15
  I
• 46:16
  did
• 46:16
  see
• 46:16
  that
• 46:17
  she
• 46:17
  was
• 46:17
  selling
• 46:18
  books
• 46:19
  on
• 46:19
  her
• 46:19
  website.
• 46:20
  So
• 46:20
  she,
• 46:21
  she
• 46:21
  had
• 46:21
  that
• 46:21
  going.
• 46:21
  And
• 46:22
  I
• 46:22
  had
• 46:22
  said
• 46:22
  to
• 46:22
  David,
• 46:23
  I
• 46:23
  would
• 46:23
  like
• 46:23
  to
• 46:23
  do
• 46:23
  that.
• 46:24
  And
• 46:24
  then
• 46:25
  we
• 46:25
  went
• 46:26
  through
• 46:26
  how,
• 46:26
  the
• 46:26
  how
• 46:27
  to
• 46:27
  and
• 46:27
  whatnot.
• 46:28
  So
• 46:28
  he
• 46:28
  developed
• 46:29
  that.
• 46:29
  And
• 46:30
  then
• 46:30
  he
• 46:30
  was
• 46:31
  like,
• 46:31
  what
• 46:31
  do
• 46:31
  you
• 46:31
  think
• 46:31
  about
• 46:32
  some
• 46:32
  merchandise?
• 46:32
  And
• 46:32
  I'm
• 46:33
  like,
• 46:33
  yeah,
• 46:33
  I
• 46:33
  would
• 46:34
  love
• 46:34
  to
• 46:34
  have
• 46:34
  some
• 46:34
  merchandise.
• 46:35
  Pretty
• 46:36
  limited
• 46:36
  basis
• 46:36
  to
• 46:37
  start.
• 46:37
  So
• 46:38
  he
• 46:38
  started
• 46:39
  just
• 46:39
  doing
• 46:39
  mockups
• 46:40
  for
• 46:40
  me.
• 46:40
  And
• 46:40
  he
• 46:40
  said,
• 46:41
  I
• 46:41
  just.
• 46:41
  He
• 46:41
  talked
• 46:41
  to
• 46:42
  his
• 46:42
  own
• 46:42
  son
• 46:43
  and
• 46:43
  said,
• 46:43
  what
• 46:43
  kinds
• 46:44
  of
• 46:44
  things
• 46:44
  do
• 46:44
  you
• 46:44
  think
• 46:44
  you
• 46:45
  would
• 46:45
  like
• 46:45
  to
• 46:45
  see?
• 46:45
  And
• 46:46
  Mugs
• 46:46
  are
• 46:47
  huge.
• 46:47
  Totes
• 46:48
  are
• 46:48
  huge.
• 46:49
  And
• 46:50
  basically
• 46:50
  the
• 46:50
  store
• 46:51
  operates
• 46:51
  as
• 46:52
  far
• 46:52
  as
• 46:52
  the
• 46:52
  merchandise.
• 46:53
  It's
• 46:53
  an
• 46:53
  on
• 46:54
  printing
• 46:54
  demand.
• 46:55
  Printing
• 46:55
  on
• 46:55
  demand.
• 46:56
  Right.
• 46:56
  So
• 46:57
  are
• 46:57
  you
• 46:57
  using
• 46:58
  somebody
• 46:58
  like
• 46:58
  stropify
• 46:59
  or
• 46:59
  who.
• 47:00
  What's
• 47:00
  drop?
• 47:00
  I
• 47:01
  go.
• 47:01
  It's
• 47:02
  printful
• 47:02
  is
• 47:02
  the
• 47:02
  one
• 47:02
  who
• 47:03
  fulfills
• 47:03
  the
• 47:03
  orders.
• 47:04
  Okay,
• 47:04
  okay.
• 47:05
  And
• 47:05
  again,
• 47:05
  like
• 47:05
  David,
• 47:06
  just
• 47:06
  because
• 47:07
  it's
• 47:07
  his
• 47:07
  business,
• 47:08
  he
• 47:08
  has
• 47:09
  a
• 47:09
  repertoire
• 47:10
  of
• 47:10
  places
• 47:11
  he
• 47:11
  uses
• 47:11
  and
• 47:12
  he
• 47:12
  shops
• 47:13
  around
• 47:13
  for
• 47:13
  pricing
• 47:14
  and
• 47:14
  things
• 47:14
  like
• 47:14
  that.
• 47:15
  You
• 47:15
  bet.
• 47:15
  Yeah,
• 47:16
  I
• 47:16
  had
• 47:16
  to.
• 47:16
  I
• 47:17
  have
• 47:17
  a
• 47:17
  shipping
• 47:18
  station.
• 47:19
  So
• 47:19
  again,
• 47:19
  this
• 47:20
  was
• 47:20
  like
• 47:20
  a
• 47:20
  lot
• 47:21
  to
• 47:21
  take
• 47:22
  on
• 47:22
  from
• 47:22
  someone
• 47:23
  going
• 47:23
  from
• 47:23
  basically
• 47:25
  basic
• 47:25
  technology
• 47:26
  teaching
• 47:27
  to
• 47:28
  being
• 47:28
  a
• 47:28
  little
• 47:29
  indistoral.
• 47:30
  But
• 47:31
  you're
• 47:31
  not
• 47:31
  at
• 47:31
  like
• 47:32
  the
• 47:32
  merchandising
• 47:33
  shop
• 47:33
  itself.
• 47:34
  You
• 47:35
  don't
• 47:35
  have
• 47:35
  an
• 47:36
  inventory.
• 47:37
  I'm.
• 47:38
  It's
• 47:38
  just
• 47:38
  coming
• 47:38
  right.
• 47:39
  From
• 47:39
  who
• 47:40
  from.
• 47:40
  You
• 47:40
  said
• 47:41
  printful.
• 47:42
  Printful,
• 47:43
  yes,
• 47:43
  printful.
• 47:44
  So
• 47:44
  it's
• 47:44
  just
• 47:44
  coming
• 47:45
  directly
• 47:45
  from
• 47:45
  them.
• 47:46
  So
• 47:46
  if
• 47:46
  I
• 47:46
  went
• 47:46
  online
• 47:47
  and
• 47:47
  I
• 47:47
  wanted
• 47:47
  the
• 47:48
  Elf
• 47:48
  Workshop
• 47:49
  mug,
• 47:50
  I
• 47:50
  would
• 47:50
  just
• 47:50
  order
• 47:51
  it
• 47:51
  and
• 47:52
  they
• 47:52
  would
• 47:53
  fulfill
• 47:53
  it.
• 47:54
  Fulfill
• 47:54
  it.
• 47:55
  And
• 47:55
  they
• 47:55
  would
• 47:55
  send
• 47:55
  you
• 47:56
  part
• 47:56
  of
• 47:56
  the.
• 47:57
  Your
• 47:57
  commission
• 47:57
  or
• 47:58
  then
• 47:58
  they
• 47:58
  would
• 47:58
  take
• 47:59
  their
• 47:59
  part
• 47:59
  and.
• 48:00
  Oh,
• 48:00
  okay.
• 48:01
  So
• 48:01
  quite
• 48:02
  sounds
• 48:02
  quite
• 48:03
  simple
• 48:03
  and
• 48:03
  I
• 48:03
  don't
• 48:04
  want
• 48:04
  to
• 48:04
  make
• 48:04
  it
• 48:04
  sound
• 48:05
  too
• 48:05
  simple,
• 48:06
  but
• 48:06
  it
• 48:06
  sounds
• 48:06
  like
• 48:07
  you've
• 48:07
  got
• 48:07
  another
• 48:07
  revenue
• 48:08
  source.
• 48:09
  You're
• 48:09
  taking
• 48:10
  your
• 48:10
  graphics,
• 48:11
  which
• 48:11
  you
• 48:11
  already
• 48:11
  own
• 48:12
  and
• 48:13
  being
• 48:13
  able
• 48:14
  to
• 48:14
  parlay
• 48:15
  them
• 48:15
  into
• 48:16
  a
• 48:16
  different
• 48:16
  revenue
• 48:17
  source,
• 48:17
  which
• 48:17
  is
• 48:18
  like
• 48:18
  we
• 48:18
  were
• 48:19
  talking
• 48:19
  about
• 48:19
  earlier.
• 48:20
  You
• 48:20
  definitely
• 48:20
  need
• 48:21
  to
• 48:21
  create
• 48:21
  some
• 48:22
  revenue
• 48:23
  to
• 48:23
  fund
• 48:24
  your
• 48:24
  next
• 48:24
  book
• 48:26
  on
• 48:26
  the.
• 48:26
  Website
• 48:27
  to
• 48:27
  the
• 48:27
  book
• 48:27
  end
• 48:28
  of
• 48:28
  it,
• 48:29
  that
• 48:29
  is.
• 48:30
  I
• 48:30
  take
• 48:31
  care
• 48:31
  of
• 48:31
  that.
• 48:32
  That's
• 48:32
  where
• 48:32
  the
• 48:32
  shipping
• 48:33
  comes
• 48:33
  in
• 48:33
  for
• 48:33
  me.
• 48:33
  So
• 48:34
  I
• 48:34
  buy
• 48:35
  inventory
• 48:35
  of
• 48:35
  books
• 48:36
  here.
• 48:36
  Okay.
• 48:37
  And
• 48:37
  you
• 48:38
  also
• 48:38
  of
• 48:38
  course,
• 48:39
  because
• 48:39
  I
• 48:40
  this
• 48:40
  from
• 48:41
  Amazon.
• 48:42
  Yeah.
• 48:42
  And
• 48:42
  then
• 48:43
  there's
• 48:43
  Amazon
• 48:43
  and
• 48:43
  there's
• 48:44
  barnesandnoble.com.
• 48:46
  Okay.
• 48:46
  Are
• 48:46
  the
• 48:47
  main
• 48:47
  firms.
• 48:47
  Okay.
• 48:48
  So
• 48:48
  you
• 48:49
  probably
• 48:49
  set.
• 48:50
  Went
• 48:50
  through
• 48:51
  Ingram
• 48:51
  Sparks
• 48:52
  to
• 48:52
  set
• 48:52
  up.
• 48:52
  I
• 48:52
  did.
• 48:53
  Yikes.
• 48:54
  Great.
• 48:54
  I
• 48:54
  just
• 48:54
  want
• 48:55
  so
• 48:55
  that.
• 48:55
  So
• 48:55
  our
• 48:56
  listeners,
• 48:56
  if
• 48:56
  they're
• 48:57
  aspiring
• 48:57
  authors,
• 48:58
  can
• 48:58
  know
• 48:58
  that
• 48:59
  there's
• 48:59
  Amazon
• 49:00
  and
• 49:00
  then
• 49:00
  there's
• 49:00
  also
• 49:01
  Ingram
• 49:02
  Sparks,
• 49:02
  which
• 49:02
  really
• 49:03
  reaches
• 49:04
  all
• 49:04
  others
• 49:05
  sense
• 49:06
  of
• 49:06
  online
• 49:07
  book
• 49:07
  retailing.
• 49:08
  Yes.
• 49:09
  And
• 49:10
  in
• 49:10
  my
• 49:10
  situation
• 49:11
  going
• 49:11
  through
• 49:12
  book
• 49:12
  facts,
• 49:13
  they
• 49:14
  set
• 49:14
  up
• 49:14
  IngramSpark
• 49:15
  for
• 49:16
  me.
• 49:16
  Okay,
• 49:17
  fantastic.
• 49:17
  So
• 49:17
  that
• 49:17
  wasn't
• 49:18
  a
• 49:18
  separate
• 49:18
  thing
• 49:18
  I
• 49:18
  had
• 49:19
  to
• 49:19
  do.
• 49:19
  Okay,
• 49:20
  you
• 49:20
  have
• 49:20
  a
• 49:20
  choice.
• 49:20
  Do
• 49:20
  you
• 49:21
  want
• 49:21
  to
• 49:21
  just
• 49:21
  go
• 49:22
  paperback?
• 49:22
  Do
• 49:23
  you
• 49:23
  want
• 49:23
  to
• 49:23
  do
• 49:24
  hardcover
• 49:24
  as
• 49:24
  well?
• 49:25
  If
• 49:25
  you're
• 49:25
  going
• 49:25
  to
• 49:26
  choose
• 49:26
  hardcover
• 49:27
  as
• 49:27
  well,
• 49:27
  that's
• 49:28
  through
• 49:28
  ingramspark.
• 49:29
  Okay,
• 49:30
  fantastic.
• 49:31
  So
• 49:31
  tell
• 49:32
  me
• 49:32
  because
• 49:32
  we're
• 49:33
  going
• 49:33
  to
• 49:33
  talk
• 49:33
  in
• 49:33
  a
• 49:33
  moment
• 49:34
  about
• 49:34
  your
• 49:34
  next
• 49:35
  book.
• 49:35
  Tell
• 49:36
  me
• 49:36
  about
• 49:36
  the
• 49:36
  role
• 49:37
  of
• 49:37
  writing
• 49:38
  in
• 49:38
  your
• 49:38
  Life
• 49:39
  now,
• 49:39
  Like,
• 49:39
  how
• 49:40
  is
• 49:40
  it
• 49:40
  fitting
• 49:40
  into
• 49:40
  your
• 49:41
  life
• 49:41
  and
• 49:42
  what's
• 49:42
  the
• 49:42
  typical
• 49:43
  amount
• 49:43
  of
• 49:43
  time
• 49:43
  you're
• 49:44
  spending
• 49:45
  writing?
• 49:45
  So
• 49:46
  right
• 49:46
  now,
• 49:47
  especially
• 49:47
  being
• 49:48
  the
• 49:48
  Christmas
• 49:48
  season
• 49:49
  and
• 49:49
  my
• 49:49
  book,
• 49:50
  Santa
• 49:50
  Simon,
• 49:50
  being
• 49:51
  a
• 49:51
  Christmas
• 49:52
  book,
• 49:52
  more
• 49:53
  time
• 49:53
  is
• 49:53
  actually
• 49:54
  going
• 49:54
  toward
• 49:54
  the
• 49:54
  marketing
• 49:55
  end
• 49:55
  of
• 49:55
  things,
• 49:56
  for
• 49:56
  sure.
• 49:57
  Okay.
• 49:57
  Than
• 49:57
  the
• 49:57
  personal
• 49:58
  writing.
• 49:58
  Although
• 49:59
  I'm
• 49:59
  making
• 50:00
  sure
• 50:00
  that
• 50:00
  I
• 50:00
  do
• 50:00
  get
• 50:01
  some
• 50:02
  time
• 50:02
  going
• 50:02
  back
• 50:02
  to
• 50:02
  the
• 50:03
  personal
• 50:03
  writing.
• 50:04
  One
• 50:04
  of
• 50:04
  the
• 50:04
  things,
• 50:05
  when
• 50:05
  the
• 50:06
  Christmas
• 50:06
  season's
• 50:06
  winding
• 50:07
  down
• 50:07
  a
• 50:07
  little
• 50:07
  bit,
• 50:08
  I
• 50:08
  do
• 50:08
  need
• 50:08
  to
• 50:09
  get
• 50:09
  back
• 50:09
  to
• 50:09
  a
• 50:09
  regular
• 50:10
  schedule.
• 50:11
  So
• 50:11
  I
• 50:12
  do
• 50:12
  work
• 50:13
  on
• 50:14
  some
• 50:14
  of
• 50:14
  the
• 50:14
  things
• 50:14
  that
• 50:15
  I'm
• 50:15
  developing
• 50:15
  more,
• 50:16
  but
• 50:16
  I'm
• 50:16
  just
• 50:16
  trying
• 50:17
  to
• 50:17
  be
• 50:17
  more
• 50:18
  setting
• 50:19
  at
• 50:19
  a
• 50:19
  certain
• 50:19
  time
• 50:20
  of
• 50:20
  day,
• 50:20
  getting
• 50:21
  into
• 50:21
  a
• 50:21
  habit.
• 50:22
  And
• 50:22
  a
• 50:22
  schedule
• 50:23
  for
• 50:23
  me
• 50:24
  is
• 50:24
  how
• 50:24
  I
• 50:25
  go.
• 50:25
  So
• 50:26
  if
• 50:26
  I
• 50:26
  can
• 50:26
  do
• 50:26
  an
• 50:26
  hour
• 50:27
  or
• 50:27
  two
• 50:27
  a
• 50:27
  day,
• 50:28
  that's
• 50:28
  my
• 50:29
  goal.
• 50:29
  So
• 50:30
  with
• 50:30
  a
• 50:30
  book
• 50:30
  that
• 50:31
  as
• 50:31
  is
• 50:32
  more
• 50:32
  seasonal,
• 50:33
  what
• 50:33
  are
• 50:33
  some
• 50:33
  of
• 50:34
  the
• 50:34
  things
• 50:34
  that
• 50:34
  you're
• 50:35
  currently
• 50:35
  doing
• 50:36
  to
• 50:37
  encourage
• 50:37
  people
• 50:38
  to
• 50:38
  use
• 50:39
  the
• 50:39
  book
• 50:39
  as
• 50:39
  a
• 50:39
  stocking
• 50:40
  stuffer?
• 50:40
  Which
• 50:40
  I
• 50:40
  think
• 50:41
  is
• 50:41
  just
• 50:42
  perfect
• 50:43
  idea,
• 50:43
  but
• 50:44
  what
• 50:44
  else
• 50:44
  are
• 50:44
  you
• 50:45
  doing?
• 50:45
  Okay,
• 50:46
  basically,
• 50:47
  I
• 50:47
  do
• 50:47
  readings
• 50:48
  at
• 50:48
  schools,
• 50:49
  classrooms
• 50:49
  mostly.
• 50:50
  I
• 50:50
  haven't
• 50:51
  attempted
• 50:51
  an
• 50:52
  assembly,
• 50:53
  and
• 50:54
  it's
• 50:54
  not
• 50:55
  for
• 50:55
  any
• 50:55
  reason.
• 50:56
  It's
• 50:56
  just,
• 50:56
  again,
• 50:57
  another
• 50:57
  organizational
• 50:58
  tool.
• 50:59
  I'm
• 50:59
  busy
• 51:00
  with
• 51:00
  so
• 51:00
  many
• 51:00
  other
• 51:00
  things
• 51:01
  that
• 51:01
  I
• 51:01
  haven't
• 51:01
  done
• 51:01
  that.
• 51:02
  So
• 51:02
  that's.
• 51:03
  That'll
• 51:03
  be
• 51:03
  on
• 51:04
  my
• 51:04
  agenda.
• 51:04
  Probably
• 51:05
  not
• 51:06
  this
• 51:06
  year,
• 51:06
  but
• 51:06
  maybe
• 51:06
  for
• 51:07
  next
• 51:07
  year.
• 51:08
  I
• 51:08
  do
• 51:09
  a
• 51:09
  lot
• 51:09
  on
• 51:09
  Facebook.
• 51:10
  I
• 51:10
  post
• 51:10
  a
• 51:10
  lot.
• 51:11
  It's
• 51:11
  a
• 51:12
  lot
• 51:12
  of.
• 51:12
  I
• 51:13
  think
• 51:13
  Facebook
• 51:13
  is
• 51:13
  probably
• 51:14
  my
• 51:14
  main
• 51:14
  thing
• 51:15
  in
• 51:15
  terms
• 51:16
  of
• 51:16
  people
• 51:16
  and
• 51:17
  even
• 51:17
  people
• 51:17
  that
• 51:17
  I'm
• 51:18
  friends
• 51:18
  with.
• 51:18
  They
• 51:19
  a
• 51:19
  lot
• 51:19
  of
• 51:19
  times
• 51:20
  tell
• 51:20
  me,
• 51:20
  oh,
• 51:20
  I
• 51:21
  saw
• 51:21
  this
• 51:21
  on
• 51:21
  Facebook,
• 51:21
  or
• 51:22
  I
• 51:22
  saw
• 51:22
  that
• 51:22
  on
• 51:22
  Facebook.
• 51:23
  Oh,
• 51:23
  cool.
• 51:24
  And
• 51:24
  there's
• 51:24
  a
• 51:24
  lot
• 51:24
  of
• 51:25
  word
• 51:25
  of
• 51:25
  mouth.
• 51:25
  I
• 51:25
  think
• 51:26
  that
• 51:26
  is
• 51:26
  one
• 51:26
  of
• 51:26
  those
• 51:27
  things
• 51:27
  that
• 51:27
  you
• 51:28
  take
• 51:28
  for
• 51:28
  granted
• 51:29
  almost
• 51:29
  that
• 51:30
  or
• 51:30
  hope
• 51:30
  that
• 51:31
  people
• 51:31
  are
• 51:31
  talking
• 51:31
  about
• 51:31
  it,
• 51:32
  but
• 51:32
  they
• 51:32
  actually
• 51:32
  do,
• 51:33
  you.
• 51:33
  Know,
• 51:33
  they
• 51:33
  actually
• 51:33
  recommend
• 51:35
  making
• 51:35
  sure
• 51:35
  we've
• 51:36
  got
• 51:36
  some
• 51:36
  branding.
• 51:37
  Because
• 51:37
  when
• 51:38
  I
• 51:38
  think
• 51:38
  for
• 51:38
  most
• 51:40
  children's
• 51:40
  book
• 51:40
  authors,
• 51:41
  if
• 51:41
  you
• 51:41
  do
• 51:41
  a
• 51:42
  reading
• 51:42
  at
• 51:42
  school,
• 51:43
  it's
• 51:43
  not
• 51:43
  like
• 51:44
  you're
• 51:44
  saying
• 51:45
  to
• 51:45
  the
• 51:45
  kids
• 51:45
  after
• 51:46
  the
• 51:46
  reading,
• 51:47
  oh,
• 51:47
  can
• 51:47
  I
• 51:47
  have
• 51:47
  your
• 51:48
  20
• 51:48
  bucks
• 51:48
  for
• 51:48
  my
• 51:49
  book?
• 51:50
  Do
• 51:50
  you
• 51:50
  take
• 51:50
  your
• 51:51
  activity
• 51:51
  pages?
• 51:52
  Is
• 51:52
  that
• 51:52
  kind
• 51:53
  of
• 51:53
  the
• 51:53
  silent
• 51:54
  salesperson?
• 51:55
  They
• 51:55
  take
• 51:55
  these
• 51:55
  home
• 51:56
  and
• 51:56
  say,
• 51:56
  yeah,
• 51:57
  and
• 51:57
  how
• 51:58
  has
• 51:58
  that
• 51:58
  worked
• 51:58
  for
• 51:58
  you?
• 51:59
  Do
• 51:59
  you
• 51:59
  notice
• 52:00
  when
• 52:00
  the
• 52:01
  next
• 52:01
  day,
• 52:02
  possibly
• 52:02
  the
• 52:02
  parents
• 52:03
  have
• 52:03
  supported
• 52:03
  you
• 52:04
  by
• 52:04
  ordering
• 52:05
  the
• 52:05
  book
• 52:05
  online
• 52:05
  or
• 52:06
  ordered
• 52:06
  it
• 52:06
  through
• 52:06
  your
• 52:07
  website?
• 52:08
  I
• 52:08
  haven't
• 52:08
  seen
• 52:08
  a
• 52:08
  whole
• 52:09
  lot
• 52:09
  of
• 52:09
  that
• 52:09
  yet,
• 52:10
  but
• 52:10
  merchandise
• 52:11
  was
• 52:11
  basically
• 52:12
  launched
• 52:12
  last
• 52:12
  week,
• 52:13
  so
• 52:13
  not
• 52:13
  yet.
• 52:14
  I
• 52:15
  also
• 52:15
  have
• 52:15
  bookmarks
• 52:16
  that
• 52:16
  I
• 52:16
  give
• 52:17
  out
• 52:17
  and
• 52:17
  they
• 52:18
  have
• 52:18
  my
• 52:18
  website
• 52:19
  scan
• 52:20
  Marana
• 52:20
  scan
• 52:21
  code.
• 52:21
  So
• 52:22
  we
• 52:22
  take
• 52:22
  parents
• 52:22
  right
• 52:23
  there.
• 52:23
  I
• 52:24
  also
• 52:24
  do.
• 52:25
  Although
• 52:25
  that's
• 52:25
  just.
• 52:25
  Again,
• 52:26
  this
• 52:26
  is
• 52:26
  just
• 52:26
  starting
• 52:27
  out
• 52:27
  with
• 52:27
  it,
• 52:27
  but
• 52:27
  I
• 52:28
  also
• 52:28
  do
• 52:28
  vendor
• 52:29
  shows.
• 52:29
  I
• 52:29
  just
• 52:29
  did
• 52:30
  one
• 52:30
  actually
• 52:30
  at
• 52:30
  my.
• 52:31
  For
• 52:31
  my
• 52:31
  school
• 52:32
  district.
• 52:32
  Okay.
• 52:32
  In
• 52:33
  conjunction
• 52:33
  with
• 52:33
  my
• 52:34
  school
• 52:34
  district
• 52:34
  that
• 52:34
  I
• 52:35
  retired
• 52:35
  from.
• 52:36
  And
• 52:36
  that
• 52:36
  was
• 52:36
  a
• 52:36
  lot
• 52:36
  of
• 52:37
  fun.
• 52:37
  I
• 52:37
  get
• 52:37
  to
• 52:37
  meet
• 52:37
  a
• 52:37
  lot
• 52:37
  of
• 52:38
  people
• 52:38
  and
• 52:38
  they
• 52:39
  stop
• 52:39
  and
• 52:39
  they
• 52:39
  browse
• 52:40
  and
• 52:40
  they.
• 52:40
  I
• 52:41
  did
• 52:41
  get
• 52:41
  quite
• 52:41
  a
• 52:41
  few
• 52:42
  sales
• 52:42
  there.
• 52:43
  Oh,
• 52:43
  fantastic.
• 52:44
  Yeah.
• 52:44
  And
• 52:44
  they.
• 52:45
  Again,
• 52:45
  I
• 52:45
  had
• 52:45
  bookmarks
• 52:46
  available
• 52:47
  and
• 52:47
  I
• 52:47
  didn't
• 52:48
  the
• 52:48
  sheets
• 52:48
  with
• 52:48
  me,
• 52:48
  but
• 52:49
  I
• 52:49
  had
• 52:49
  bookmarks
• 52:49
  available.
• 52:50
  Okay.
• 52:51
  So
• 52:51
  there
• 52:51
  was
• 52:51
  that.
• 52:52
  It's
• 52:52
  interesting
• 52:52
  on
• 52:53
  the
• 52:53
  bookmarks.
• 52:53
  I
• 52:54
  just
• 52:54
  tell
• 52:54
  you
• 52:54
  a
• 52:54
  little
• 52:55
  quick
• 52:55
  story
• 52:55
  about
• 52:55
  it.
• 52:56
  We
• 52:56
  did
• 52:56
  a
• 52:56
  bookmark
• 52:57
  also.
• 52:57
  And
• 52:58
  what.
• 52:58
  I
• 52:59
  designed
• 52:59
  it
• 52:59
  on
• 53:00
  Canva
• 53:01
  and
• 53:01
  I
• 53:01
  used
• 53:01
  Canva's
• 53:02
  free,
• 53:02
  but
• 53:03
  they
• 53:03
  had
• 53:03
  the
• 53:03
  QR
• 53:04
  code.
• 53:04
  And
• 53:05
  I
• 53:05
  put
• 53:05
  a
• 53:05
  QR
• 53:06
  code.
• 53:07
  I
• 53:07
  built
• 53:07
  it
• 53:07
  into
• 53:08
  the
• 53:09
  bookmark.
• 53:10
  And
• 53:11
  my
• 53:11
  middle
• 53:12
  granddaughter,
• 53:13
  she
• 53:13
  tends
• 53:14
  to
• 53:14
  be
• 53:14
  the
• 53:14
  voice
• 53:14
  of
• 53:14
  Caboose.
• 53:15
  What
• 53:16
  we
• 53:16
  did
• 53:16
  is
• 53:17
  the
• 53:18
  original
• 53:18
  story.
• 53:19
  She
• 53:20
  actually
• 53:21
  did
• 53:21
  the
• 53:21
  audiobook.
• 53:22
  And
• 53:23
  what
• 53:23
  we
• 53:23
  did
• 53:23
  is
• 53:24
  when
• 53:24
  we
• 53:24
  hand
• 53:24
  you
• 53:25
  the
• 53:26
  bookmark,
• 53:27
  all
• 53:27
  you
• 53:27
  gotta
• 53:27
  do
• 53:28
  is
• 53:28
  scan
• 53:29
  the
• 53:29
  QR
• 53:29
  code
• 53:29
  and
• 53:30
  it
• 53:30
  takes
• 53:30
  you
• 53:30
  to
• 53:30
  the
• 53:31
  story.
• 53:31
  And
• 53:32
  Bailey
• 53:32
  is
• 53:32
  reading
• 53:33
  our
• 53:33
  origin
• 53:34
  story.
• 53:35
  Yeah.
• 53:35
  So
• 53:35
  I
• 53:35
  just.
• 53:36
  I
• 53:36
  share
• 53:36
  that
• 53:36
  with
• 53:36
  you.
• 53:37
  So,
• 53:37
  yeah.
• 53:37
  It
• 53:38
  just
• 53:38
  makes
• 53:38
  that
• 53:39
  bookmark
• 53:39
  maybe
• 53:40
  a
• 53:40
  little
• 53:40
  more
• 53:40
  valuable.
• 53:41
  Absolutely.
• 53:43
  Yeah.
• 53:43
  I
• 53:44
  have
• 53:44
  to
• 53:44
  give
• 53:44
  David
• 53:45
  an
• 53:45
  email
• 53:45
  later.
• 53:46
  So
• 53:47
  anyways,
• 53:47
  that
• 53:47
  was.
• 53:47
  It
• 53:47
  was.
• 53:48
  It
• 53:48
  was
• 53:48
  fun
• 53:48
  to
• 53:49
  do,
• 53:49
  and
• 53:49
  it's
• 53:50
  fun
• 53:50
  to
• 53:50
  give
• 53:50
  out
• 53:51
  advice
• 53:51
  for
• 53:52
  aspiring
• 53:53
  authors.
• 53:54
  What
• 53:55
  kind
• 53:55
  of
• 53:55
  advice
• 53:55
  would
• 53:56
  you
• 53:56
  like
• 53:56
  to
• 53:57
  give
• 53:57
  or
• 53:57
  tell
• 53:58
  us
• 53:58
  a
• 53:58
  little
• 53:58
  bit?
• 53:59
  Like,
• 53:59
  how
• 53:59
  would
• 53:59
  you
• 54:00
  inspire
• 54:00
  if
• 54:01
  somebody
• 54:01
  said,
• 54:01
  you
• 54:02
  know
• 54:02
  what,
• 54:03
  Terry?
• 54:03
  I
• 54:04
  have
• 54:04
  no
• 54:05
  idea.
• 54:05
  I
• 54:06
  don't
• 54:06
  know
• 54:06
  what
• 54:06
  to
• 54:07
  do.
• 54:07
  I
• 54:08
  really
• 54:08
  have
• 54:08
  this
• 54:08
  book
• 54:09
  inside
• 54:09
  of
• 54:09
  me.
• 54:10
  I
• 54:10
  want
• 54:10
  to
• 54:11
  get
• 54:11
  it
• 54:11
  out,
• 54:11
  but
• 54:11
  I
• 54:11
  don't.
• 54:12
  I
• 54:12
  just
• 54:12
  don't
• 54:12
  know
• 54:12
  how
• 54:13
  to
• 54:13
  do
• 54:13
  that.
• 54:13
  And
• 54:13
  I
• 54:14
  don't
• 54:14
  even
• 54:14
  know
• 54:14
  how
• 54:14
  to
• 54:14
  bring
• 54:14
  it
• 54:15
  to
• 54:15
  life.
• 54:15
  What
• 54:15
  would
• 54:15
  you
• 54:16
  say
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  people?
• 54:17
  Take
• 54:17
  the
• 54:17
  first
• 54:18
  step,
• 54:18
  Number
• 54:18
  one,
• 54:19
  don't
• 54:19
  let
• 54:19
  it
• 54:19
  just
• 54:20
  be
• 54:20
  an
• 54:20
  idea.
• 54:21
  You
• 54:21
  know
• 54:21
  what?
• 54:22
  One
• 54:22
  of
• 54:22
  the
• 54:22
  things
• 54:23
  I
• 54:23
  have
• 54:23
  learned
• 54:24
  through
• 54:24
  my
• 54:24
  process
• 54:25
  is
• 54:25
  that
• 54:26
  no
• 54:26
  matter
• 54:27
  what
• 54:27
  action
• 54:28
  you
• 54:28
  take,
• 54:28
  it's
• 54:28
  action.
• 54:29
  And
• 54:30
  one
• 54:30
  action
• 54:30
  leads
• 54:31
  to
• 54:31
  another
• 54:31
  action.
• 54:32
  And
• 54:32
  it
• 54:33
  does
• 54:33
  not
• 54:33
  have
• 54:34
  to
• 54:34
  be
• 54:34
  perfect.
• 54:35
  And
• 54:35
  it
• 54:35
  also
• 54:36
  doesn't
• 54:36
  have
• 54:36
  to
• 54:37
  be
• 54:37
  linear
• 54:37
  either.
• 54:38
  Right?
• 54:38
  Doesn't.
• 54:39
  No,
• 54:39
  absolutely
• 54:40
  not.
• 54:40
  And
• 54:41
  just
• 54:41
  remember
• 54:41
  too,
• 54:42
  that
• 54:42
  even
• 54:42
  though
• 54:43
  as
• 54:43
  an
• 54:44
  author,
• 54:44
  basically
• 54:45
  that's
• 54:45
  a
• 54:45
  solo
• 54:47
  activity
• 54:47
  that
• 54:48
  you
• 54:48
  do,
• 54:49
  it's.
• 54:50
  Don't
• 54:50
  let
• 54:50
  it
• 54:50
  be
• 54:51
  isolating
• 54:51
  to
• 54:52
  you.
• 54:52
  And
• 54:52
  it
• 54:52
  should
• 54:53
  not
• 54:53
  be.
• 54:53
  Community
• 54:54
  is
• 54:54
  really
• 54:54
  important
• 54:55
  now.
• 54:56
  Like,
• 54:56
  I
• 54:56
  belong
• 54:57
  to
• 54:57
  The
• 54:57
  Society
• 54:57
  of
• 54:58
  Children's
• 54:58
  Book
• 54:58
  Writer
• 54:59
  and
• 54:59
  Illustrator.
• 55:00
  Yes,
• 55:01
  I
• 55:01
  belong
• 55:01
  to
• 55:01
  that,
• 55:01
  too.
• 55:02
  Yeah.
• 55:02
  You
• 55:03
  can
• 55:03
  be
• 55:03
  a
• 55:03
  paid
• 55:03
  member.
• 55:04
  They
• 55:04
  have
• 55:04
  different
• 55:05
  levels
• 55:05
  of
• 55:05
  that.
• 55:05
  You
• 55:06
  can
• 55:06
  start
• 55:07
  out
• 55:07
  just
• 55:07
  being,
• 55:08
  you
• 55:08
  know,
• 55:09
  it's.
• 55:09
  There's
• 55:09
  a
• 55:09
  free
• 55:10
  membership.
• 55:10
  There's
• 55:10
  different
• 55:11
  levels.
• 55:11
  Of
• 55:11
  course,
• 55:12
  get
• 55:12
  connected
• 55:12
  with
• 55:13
  people.
• 55:13
  Go.
• 55:13
  There's,
• 55:14
  of
• 55:14
  course,
• 55:14
  with
• 55:15
  Facebook
• 55:15
  now
• 55:15
  there's
• 55:15
  so
• 55:16
  many
• 55:16
  different
• 55:16
  writers
• 55:17
  groups
• 55:17
  and
• 55:17
  authors
• 55:18
  groups
• 55:18
  you
• 55:18
  can
• 55:18
  join.
• 55:19
  Podcasts
• 55:20
  like
• 55:20
  yours.
• 55:21
  I
• 55:21
  did
• 55:21
  listen
• 55:22
  to
• 55:22
  some
• 55:22
  of
• 55:22
  your
• 55:23
  podcasts.
• 55:23
  In
• 55:24
  terms
• 55:24
  of
• 55:24
  the
• 55:24
  traditional
• 55:25
  versus
• 55:25
  the
• 55:25
  NDA,
• 55:26
  I
• 55:27
  think
• 55:27
  it
• 55:27
  was
• 55:27
  episode
• 55:27
  eight.
• 55:28
  You're
• 55:28
  a
• 55:28
  wealth
• 55:29
  of
• 55:29
  information,
• 55:30
  and
• 55:30
  you
• 55:30
  are
• 55:30
  a
• 55:30
  wealth
• 55:31
  of
• 55:31
  encouragement,
• 55:32
  you
• 55:32
  know,
• 55:33
  not
• 55:33
  just
• 55:33
  because
• 55:33
  we're
• 55:33
  talking.
• 55:34
  I'm
• 55:34
  very
• 55:35
  impressed
• 55:35
  with
• 55:35
  it.
• 55:35
  I'm
• 55:35
  going
• 55:36
  to
• 55:36
  keep
• 55:36
  listening
• 55:37
  and
• 55:38
  following
• 55:38
  you
• 55:38
  because
• 55:39
  you've
• 55:40
  learned
• 55:40
  so
• 55:40
  much.
• 55:41
  Yeah.
• 55:41
  And
• 55:42
  like
• 55:42
  you
• 55:42
  said,
• 55:42
  talking
• 55:43
  to
• 55:43
  other
• 55:43
  people
• 55:43
  that
• 55:43
  have
• 55:44
  been
• 55:44
  through
• 55:44
  the
• 55:44
  process
• 55:45
  is
• 55:45
  huge.
• 55:46
  Write
• 55:47
  every
• 55:47
  day.
• 55:47
  Be
• 55:47
  consistent.
• 55:48
  It
• 55:49
  is
• 55:49
  hard.
• 55:49
  There's
• 55:49
  a
• 55:50
  lot
• 55:50
  of
• 55:50
  distractions
• 55:51
  in
• 55:52
  many
• 55:52
  respects.
• 55:53
  Of
• 55:53
  course,
• 55:53
  being
• 55:53
  a
• 55:53
  teacher,
• 55:54
  my
• 55:54
  day
• 55:54
  was
• 55:54
  very
• 55:55
  structured.
• 55:55
  I
• 55:55
  had
• 55:56
  schedules,
• 55:56
  I
• 55:56
  had
• 55:56
  a
• 55:57
  timeframe.
• 55:57
  I
• 55:57
  couldn't
• 55:58
  deviate
• 55:58
  from
• 55:58
  so
• 55:58
  much.
• 55:59
  Being
• 55:59
  retired
• 56:00
  is
• 56:00
  a
• 56:00
  little
• 56:01
  more
• 56:01
  challenging
• 56:02
  because
• 56:02
  there's
• 56:03
  this.
• 56:03
  That's
• 56:03
  pulling
• 56:04
  you
• 56:04
  away
• 56:04
  and
• 56:04
  that.
• 56:05
  That's
• 56:05
  pulling
• 56:05
  you
• 56:05
  away.
• 56:05
  You
• 56:06
  really
• 56:06
  have
• 56:06
  to
• 56:06
  make
• 56:07
  the
• 56:07
  commitment.
• 56:08
  For
• 56:08
  sure.
• 56:08
  For
• 56:09
  sure.
• 56:09
  Yeah.
• 56:09
  And
• 56:10
  do
• 56:10
  it.
• 56:11
  And
• 56:11
  so
• 56:12
  what
• 56:12
  kind
• 56:12
  of
• 56:13
  encouragement?
• 56:14
  Because,
• 56:14
  you
• 56:14
  know,
• 56:14
  what
• 56:15
  if.
• 56:15
  If
• 56:15
  it
• 56:15
  wasn't
• 56:15
  for
• 56:16
  our
• 56:16
  readers,
• 56:17
  you
• 56:18
  know,
• 56:18
  and
• 56:18
  like
• 56:19
  you
• 56:19
  said,
• 56:19
  their
• 56:19
  feedback,
• 56:20
  that's
• 56:21
  such
• 56:21
  a
• 56:22
  big
• 56:22
  part
• 56:22
  of
• 56:23
  the
• 56:23
  inspiration
• 56:24
  when
• 56:24
  you
• 56:24
  get
• 56:24
  the
• 56:24
  feedback
• 56:25
  and
• 56:25
  it
• 56:25
  becomes
• 56:26
  someone's
• 56:27
  favorite
• 56:27
  book.
• 56:27
  Like,
• 56:28
  I've
• 56:28
  gotten
• 56:28
  that
• 56:28
  comment
• 56:29
  so
• 56:30
  often
• 56:30
  is
• 56:30
  somebody
• 56:31
  said,
• 56:31
  this
• 56:31
  is
• 56:31
  now
• 56:31
  my
• 56:32
  daughter's
• 56:33
  favorite
• 56:34
  bedtime
• 56:35
  storybook.
• 56:36
  And
• 56:36
  then
• 56:36
  you
• 56:36
  think,
• 56:36
  oh,
• 56:37
  wow.
• 56:37
  Like,
• 56:37
  it's
• 56:38
  just
• 56:38
  very
• 56:39
  inspirational.
• 56:39
  So
• 56:40
  what
• 56:40
  kind
• 56:40
  of
• 56:41
  encouragement
• 56:41
  would
• 56:42
  you
• 56:42
  give
• 56:42
  to
• 56:43
  readers,
• 56:44
  like,
• 56:45
  in
• 56:45
  terms
• 56:45
  of
• 56:46
  even
• 56:46
  encouraging
• 56:48
  parents
• 56:48
  or
• 56:49
  grandparents
• 56:49
  to
• 56:50
  get
• 56:50
  involved
• 56:51
  in
• 56:51
  creating
• 56:52
  that
• 56:52
  reading
• 56:53
  habit?
• 56:54
  Children
• 56:54
  learn
• 56:54
  by
• 56:55
  example.
• 56:55
  Be
• 56:56
  a
• 56:56
  reader
• 56:56
  yourself
• 56:57
  as
• 56:57
  an
• 56:57
  adult,
• 56:58
  and
• 56:58
  don't
• 56:58
  shy
• 56:59
  away
• 56:59
  from
• 57:00
  reading
• 57:00
  children's
• 57:01
  books
• 57:01
  as
• 57:01
  an
• 57:02
  adult.
• 57:03
  There's
• 57:03
  a
• 57:03
  lot
• 57:04
  that
• 57:04
  you
• 57:04
  can
• 57:05
  learn
• 57:05
  from
• 57:05
  them
• 57:05
  as
• 57:06
  an
• 57:06
  adult.
• 57:06
  I
• 57:06
  did
• 57:07
  have
• 57:07
  an
• 57:07
  advantage
• 57:08
  being
• 57:08
  a
• 57:08
  teacher,
• 57:09
  being
• 57:09
  an
• 57:09
  elementary
• 57:10
  teacher,
• 57:10
  where
• 57:10
  literature
• 57:11
  was
• 57:11
  a
• 57:11
  big
• 57:12
  part
• 57:12
  of
• 57:12
  my
• 57:12
  day.
• 57:13
  Talking
• 57:13
  about
• 57:14
  different
• 57:15
  characters
• 57:15
  and
• 57:16
  making
• 57:16
  connections
• 57:17
  to
• 57:17
  the
• 57:17
  world,
• 57:18
  to
• 57:18
  yourself,
• 57:18
  to
• 57:18
  other
• 57:19
  characters
• 57:19
  was
• 57:20
  a
• 57:20
  big
• 57:20
  part
• 57:20
  of
• 57:20
  what
• 57:21
  we
• 57:21
  did.
• 57:21
  But
• 57:22
  use
• 57:22
  them
• 57:22
  as
• 57:23
  a
• 57:23
  tool,
• 57:24
  use
• 57:24
  them
• 57:24
  as
• 57:24
  conversation
• 57:25
  pieces.
• 57:26
  The
• 57:26
  best
• 57:26
  thing
• 57:26
  that
• 57:27
  ever
• 57:27
  happened
• 57:27
  to
• 57:27
  me
• 57:27
  as
• 57:28
  a
• 57:28
  grandparent
• 57:29
  is
• 57:29
  I
• 57:30
  got
• 57:30
  to.
• 57:30
  I
• 57:31
  think
• 57:31
  I'm
• 57:31
  just
• 57:31
  a
• 57:31
  big
• 57:31
  kid
• 57:32
  at
• 57:32
  heart,
• 57:32
  because
• 57:33
  you
• 57:34
  know
• 57:34
  what?
• 57:34
  All
• 57:34
  these
• 57:35
  animation
• 57:35
  movies,
• 57:36
  I
• 57:37
  got
• 57:37
  to
• 57:37
  go
• 57:37
  to
• 57:38
  a
• 57:38
  mall
• 57:38
  and
• 57:38
  then
• 57:38
  I
• 57:39
  pretend,
• 57:40
  oh,
• 57:40
  I've
• 57:40
  just
• 57:40
  been
• 57:40
  a
• 57:40
  good
• 57:41
  grandparent,
• 57:41
  taking
• 57:42
  my
• 57:42
  grandkids.
• 57:43
  Guess
• 57:43
  what?
• 57:44
  I'm
• 57:44
  having
• 57:45
  as
• 57:45
  much
• 57:45
  fun
• 57:45
  as
• 57:45
  they
• 57:45
  are.
• 57:46
  Watching
• 57:46
  the
• 57:46
  minions
• 57:47
  or.
• 57:48
  Right,
• 57:48
  yeah,
• 57:49
  just
• 57:49
  a
• 57:49
  lot
• 57:49
  of
• 57:49
  fun.
• 57:50
  So
• 57:50
  cool.
• 57:51
  Yeah,
• 57:51
  like
• 57:52
  you
• 57:52
  said,
• 57:52
  too,
• 57:53
  as
• 57:53
  a
• 57:53
  connection,
• 57:54
  I.
• 57:55
  It's
• 57:55
  something
• 57:55
  you
• 57:55
  love
• 57:56
  to
• 57:56
  do
• 57:56
  together
• 57:56
  and
• 57:57
  just
• 57:58
  a
• 57:58
  way
• 57:58
  to
• 57:58
  be
• 57:58
  together.
• 57:59
  Absolutely.
• 58:00
  So
• 58:01
  now
• 58:02
  we've
• 58:02
  talked
• 58:02
  a
• 58:03
  lot
• 58:03
  about
• 58:04
  your
• 58:04
  book,
• 58:05
  your
• 58:05
  current
• 58:05
  book,
• 58:06
  and
• 58:06
  now
• 58:06
  you've
• 58:07
  got
• 58:07
  a
• 58:07
  new
• 58:07
  book
• 58:07
  coming
• 58:08
  up
• 58:08
  called.
• 58:08
  I
• 58:09
  love
• 58:09
  this
• 58:09
  title,
• 58:10
  A
• 58:11
  Hubbard
• 58:11
  in
• 58:11
  My
• 58:12
  Cupboard.
• 58:14
  So
• 58:15
  did
• 58:15
  I
• 58:16
  say
• 58:16
  it
• 58:16
  right?
• 58:16
  So
• 58:17
  tell
• 58:17
  us
• 58:18
  about
• 58:18
  this
• 58:18
  gem
• 58:19
  of,
• 58:19
  like,
• 58:19
  just
• 58:20
  right
• 58:20
  away,
• 58:20
  it
• 58:21
  captures
• 58:21
  your
• 58:21
  imagination.
• 58:23
  Yeah,
• 58:23
  I.
• 58:24
  I
• 58:24
  don't
• 58:24
  even
• 58:25
  remember
• 58:25
  to
• 58:25
  be.
• 58:26
  I
• 58:26
  probably
• 58:26
  should
• 58:27
  start
• 58:27
  to
• 58:27
  log
• 58:27
  it
• 58:28
  in.
• 58:28
  Like,
• 58:28
  how
• 58:28
  did
• 58:29
  I
• 58:29
  get
• 58:29
  this
• 58:29
  idea
• 58:30
  where.
• 58:30
  What
• 58:30
  was
• 58:30
  the
• 58:30
  inspiration?
• 58:31
  Because
• 58:31
  again,
• 58:32
  like,
• 58:32
  ideas
• 58:32
  will
• 58:33
  just
• 58:33
  pop
• 58:33
  in
• 58:33
  my
• 58:33
  head.
• 58:33
  They
• 58:34
  pop
• 58:34
  in
• 58:34
  my
• 58:34
  head
• 58:34
  all
• 58:34
  the.
• 58:35
  We
• 58:35
  had
• 58:36
  this
• 58:36
  idea
• 58:36
  for
• 58:38
  some
• 58:38
  creature
• 58:38
  being
• 58:39
  and
• 58:40
  coming
• 58:40
  into
• 58:40
  a
• 58:41
  house,
• 58:41
  and
• 58:41
  that's
• 58:42
  what
• 58:42
  happens.
• 58:42
  There's
• 58:42
  a
• 58:43
  creature
• 58:43
  in
• 58:43
  this
• 58:43
  house
• 58:44
  and
• 58:44
  there's
• 58:45
  a
• 58:45
  boy.
• 58:46
  It's
• 58:47
  focused
• 58:47
  on
• 58:47
  the
• 58:47
  boy
• 58:47
  and
• 58:48
  his
• 58:48
  dog.
• 58:48
  Right.
• 58:49
  And
• 58:49
  this
• 58:50
  creature
• 58:50
  is
• 58:50
  very
• 58:51
  mischievous.
• 58:51
  I
• 58:52
  tend
• 58:52
  to
• 58:52
  like
• 58:53
  mischievous
• 58:53
  creatures.
• 58:54
  They
• 58:54
  are
• 58:55
  determined
• 58:56
  that
• 58:56
  they're
• 58:56
  going
• 58:56
  to
• 58:57
  get
• 58:57
  rid
• 58:57
  of
• 58:57
  it.
• 58:57
  He's
• 58:58
  causing
• 58:58
  too
• 58:58
  much
• 58:58
  mischief.
• 58:59
  So
• 59:00
  it's
• 59:00
  a
• 59:00
  very
• 59:01
  critical,
• 59:01
  creative
• 59:02
  thinking
• 59:02
  type
• 59:03
  of
• 59:03
  a
• 59:03
  book.
• 59:03
  Again,
• 59:04
  being
• 59:04
  the
• 59:04
  teacher,
• 59:05
  I,
• 59:05
  you
• 59:05
  know,
• 59:05
  always
• 59:05
  want
• 59:05
  kids
• 59:06
  thinking
• 59:07
  and
• 59:07
  they
• 59:08
  just.
• 59:08
  They
• 59:09
  collaborate
• 59:10
  on
• 59:10
  different
• 59:10
  ways
• 59:10
  to
• 59:10
  try
• 59:11
  and
• 59:11
  get
• 59:11
  this
• 59:11
  creature
• 59:11
  to
• 59:12
  leave.
• 59:13
  The
• 59:13
  problem
• 59:14
  is
• 59:14
  that
• 59:14
  they
• 59:15
  get
• 59:15
  onto
• 59:15
  something
• 59:16
  that
• 59:16
  might
• 59:17
  work
• 59:17
  and
• 59:18
  they
• 59:18
  think
• 59:18
  might
• 59:18
  work,
• 59:19
  but
• 59:19
  then
• 59:19
  the
• 59:19
  creature
• 59:20
  is
• 59:20
  a
• 59:20
  little
• 59:20
  bit
• 59:21
  more
• 59:21
  clever
• 59:22
  and
• 59:22
  he
• 59:22
  morphs
• 59:22
  into
• 59:23
  something
• 59:23
  else.
• 59:24
  So
• 59:25
  I'm
• 59:25
  also
• 59:26
  curious
• 59:26
  now,
• 59:27
  this
• 59:27
  is
• 59:28
  deviating
• 59:28
  a
• 59:28
  little,
• 59:29
  but
• 59:29
  I'm
• 59:29
  thinking,
• 59:30
  because
• 59:31
  you're
• 59:31
  working
• 59:31
  with,
• 59:31
  I
• 59:32
  think
• 59:32
  you
• 59:32
  said,
• 59:32
  John
• 59:32
  Fox.
• 59:33
  Yeah,
• 59:34
  I.
• 59:35
  So
• 59:35
  I'm
• 59:35
  just
• 59:36
  curious
• 59:36
  on.
• 59:37
  Did
• 59:37
  they
• 59:38
  do
• 59:38
  some
• 59:38
  research
• 59:38
  and
• 59:39
  say,
• 59:39
  you
• 59:39
  know
• 59:39
  what,
• 59:39
  Terry,
• 59:40
  if
• 59:41
  you
• 59:41
  had
• 59:41
  two
• 59:42
  books
• 59:42
  or
• 59:42
  you
• 59:43
  had
• 59:43
  three
• 59:44
  books,
• 59:45
  that
• 59:45
  your
• 59:46
  chance
• 59:46
  of
• 59:47
  selling
• 59:48
  more
• 59:48
  books
• 59:49
  is
• 59:50
  greater
• 59:50
  or
• 59:51
  was
• 59:51
  there
• 59:51
  any
• 59:51
  motivation
• 59:52
  behind
• 59:52
  that?
• 59:53
  No,
• 59:54
  there
• 59:54
  was.
• 59:54
  We
• 59:54
  didn't
• 59:55
  have
• 59:55
  a
• 59:55
  conversation,
• 59:56
  like,
• 59:56
  about
• 59:57
  that.
• 59:58
  I
• 59:58
  figured
• 59:58
  that
• 59:59
  out.
• 59:59
  I
• 59:59
  just
• 59:59
  was
• 59:59
  like,
• 1:00:00
  yeah,
• 1:00:00
  once.
• 1:00:00
  Once
• 1:00:01
  you
• 1:00:01
  have
• 1:00:01
  one
• 1:00:01
  book
• 1:00:01
  and
• 1:00:02
  if
• 1:00:03
  you.
• 1:00:03
  You
• 1:00:03
  are
• 1:00:03
  getting
• 1:00:04
  positive
• 1:00:04
  feedback
• 1:00:05
  about
• 1:00:05
  it
• 1:00:05
  and
• 1:00:05
  it's
• 1:00:06
  selling
• 1:00:06
  and
• 1:00:07
  there's
• 1:00:07
  conversation
• 1:00:08
  about
• 1:00:08
  it,
• 1:00:09
  then
• 1:00:09
  I.
• 1:00:10
  And
• 1:00:10
  again,
• 1:00:11
  as
• 1:00:11
  a
• 1:00:12
  teacher
• 1:00:12
  and
• 1:00:13
  a
• 1:00:13
  reader,
• 1:00:14
  you
• 1:00:14
  do
• 1:00:14
  tend
• 1:00:14
  to
• 1:00:15
  seek
• 1:00:15
  authors
• 1:00:16
  out
• 1:00:16
  that
• 1:00:16
  you
• 1:00:16
  like.
• 1:00:17
  Right.
• 1:00:17
  I
• 1:00:17
  felt
• 1:00:18
  that
• 1:00:18
  if
• 1:00:18
  this
• 1:00:18
  book
• 1:00:19
  is
• 1:00:19
  some
• 1:00:20
  Santa
• 1:00:20
  Simons,
• 1:00:20
  a
• 1:00:20
  book
• 1:00:21
  they
• 1:00:21
  like
• 1:00:21
  and
• 1:00:22
  I
• 1:00:22
  do
• 1:00:22
  have
• 1:00:22
  another
• 1:00:23
  one,
• 1:00:23
  they
• 1:00:23
  might
• 1:00:23
  be
• 1:00:24
  more
• 1:00:24
  inclined
• 1:00:24
  to
• 1:00:24
  look
• 1:00:24
  at
• 1:00:25
  it.
• 1:00:25
  For
• 1:00:25
  sure.
• 1:00:26
  For
• 1:00:26
  sure.
• 1:00:26
  I
• 1:00:27
  bought.
• 1:00:28
  I
• 1:00:28
  just
• 1:00:28
  have
• 1:00:29
  so
• 1:00:29
  many
• 1:00:29
  Ideas
• 1:00:30
  and
• 1:00:30
  I
• 1:00:30
  really,
• 1:00:31
  I
• 1:00:31
  wish
• 1:00:31
  I
• 1:00:31
  could
• 1:00:32
  publish
• 1:00:32
  them
• 1:00:32
  all.
• 1:00:32
  I
• 1:00:33
  don't
• 1:00:33
  know
• 1:00:33
  if
• 1:00:33
  it'll
• 1:00:34
  happen.
• 1:00:34
  But
• 1:00:35
  yeah,
• 1:00:35
  I
• 1:00:35
  just,
• 1:00:36
  that's
• 1:00:36
  what
• 1:00:36
  happened
• 1:00:37
  with
• 1:00:37
  my.
• 1:00:37
  With
• 1:00:38
  myself
• 1:00:38
  and
• 1:00:38
  my
• 1:00:38
  grandchildren.
• 1:00:39
  Because
• 1:00:39
  of
• 1:00:39
  course
• 1:00:40
  the
• 1:00:40
  only
• 1:00:41
  problem
• 1:00:41
  with
• 1:00:42
  young
• 1:00:43
  children
• 1:00:43
  is
• 1:00:43
  they
• 1:00:43
  grow
• 1:00:44
  up
• 1:00:44
  and
• 1:00:44
  then
• 1:00:44
  their
• 1:00:44
  voices
• 1:00:45
  change.
• 1:00:46
  And
• 1:00:46
  we've
• 1:00:46
  tried
• 1:00:47
  to
• 1:00:47
  record
• 1:00:48
  as
• 1:00:49
  many
• 1:00:49
  of
• 1:00:49
  these
• 1:00:50
  children's
• 1:00:51
  books
• 1:00:51
  that
• 1:00:51
  we've
• 1:00:52
  written.
• 1:00:52
  Of
• 1:00:52
  course
• 1:00:53
  we
• 1:00:53
  can't
• 1:00:53
  bring
• 1:00:54
  them
• 1:00:54
  all
• 1:00:54
  to
• 1:00:54
  print
• 1:00:55
  because
• 1:00:55
  it's
• 1:00:56
  just
• 1:00:56
  the
• 1:00:56
  cost
• 1:00:57
  of
• 1:00:57
  doing
• 1:00:57
  that.
• 1:00:58
  But
• 1:00:58
  we
• 1:00:58
  can
• 1:00:58
  actually
• 1:00:59
  create
• 1:00:59
  all
• 1:00:59
  the
• 1:01:00
  audio
• 1:01:00
  books
• 1:01:01
  in
• 1:01:01
  advance
• 1:01:01
  and
• 1:01:02
  maybe
• 1:01:02
  someday
• 1:01:03
  bring
• 1:01:03
  all
• 1:01:04
  the
• 1:01:04
  books
• 1:01:04
  to
• 1:01:04
  life.
• 1:01:04
  But
• 1:01:05
  then
• 1:01:05
  we'll
• 1:01:05
  have
• 1:01:06
  their
• 1:01:06
  young
• 1:01:06
  voices
• 1:01:07
  doing
• 1:01:08
  the
• 1:01:08
  audiobook.
• 1:01:09
  And
• 1:01:09
  I
• 1:01:09
  love
• 1:01:10
  the
• 1:01:10
  whole.
• 1:01:10
  That
• 1:01:10
  was
• 1:01:10
  something
• 1:01:11
  I
• 1:01:11
  didn't
• 1:01:11
  really
• 1:01:11
  think
• 1:01:12
  of
• 1:01:12
  till
• 1:01:12
  talking
• 1:01:12
  with
• 1:01:13
  you
• 1:01:13
  is
• 1:01:13
  doing
• 1:01:14
  audiobooks.
• 1:01:15
  Yes.
• 1:01:15
  Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  It's
• 1:01:16
  just
• 1:01:16
  another
• 1:01:17
  way
• 1:01:17
  of
• 1:01:18
  getting
• 1:01:18
  yourself
• 1:01:18
  out
• 1:01:19
  there.
• 1:01:19
  And
• 1:01:19
  you
• 1:01:19
  know
• 1:01:19
  what
• 1:01:20
  the
• 1:01:20
  nice
• 1:01:20
  thing
• 1:01:20
  about
• 1:01:20
  technology
• 1:01:21
  is
• 1:01:21
  we're
• 1:01:22
  talking
• 1:01:22
  about
• 1:01:23
  is
• 1:01:23
  that
• 1:01:24
  you
• 1:01:24
  can
• 1:01:24
  do
• 1:01:24
  it.
• 1:01:25
  It
• 1:01:25
  doesn't
• 1:01:25
  cost
• 1:01:26
  you
• 1:01:26
  anything.
• 1:01:26
  I
• 1:01:27
  just
• 1:01:27
  got
• 1:01:27
  a
• 1:01:27
  brand
• 1:01:28
  new
• 1:01:28
  iPhone
• 1:01:29
  and
• 1:01:30
  the
• 1:01:30
  technology
• 1:01:31
  just
• 1:01:31
  keeps
• 1:01:31
  advancing
• 1:01:32
  so
• 1:01:32
  quickly.
• 1:01:33
  And
• 1:01:34
  you've
• 1:01:34
  probably
• 1:01:34
  seen
• 1:01:35
  the
• 1:01:35
  ads
• 1:01:35
  for
• 1:01:35
  iPhone
• 1:01:36
  where
• 1:01:36
  they're
• 1:01:36
  making.
• 1:01:37
  People
• 1:01:37
  are
• 1:01:37
  making
• 1:01:38
  movies
• 1:01:38
  with
• 1:01:39
  an
• 1:01:39
  iPhone
• 1:01:39
  and
• 1:01:40
  you're
• 1:01:40
  thinking,
• 1:01:40
  oh,
• 1:01:41
  or
• 1:01:41
  you're
• 1:01:42
  recording
• 1:01:43
  a
• 1:01:43
  podcast
• 1:01:44
  or
• 1:01:44
  an
• 1:01:45
  audio
• 1:01:45
  book
• 1:01:46
  and
• 1:01:46
  it's
• 1:01:46
  very
• 1:01:47
  good
• 1:01:47
  quality.
• 1:01:47
  You're
• 1:01:48
  going,
• 1:01:48
  wow.
• 1:01:48
  And
• 1:01:49
  it
• 1:01:49
  didn't
• 1:01:50
  cost
• 1:01:50
  you
• 1:01:50
  anything
• 1:01:51
  to
• 1:01:51
  do
• 1:01:51
  that.
• 1:01:52
  So
• 1:01:52
  anyways,
• 1:01:53
  I
• 1:01:53
  digress.
• 1:01:55
  I'm
• 1:01:56
  curious
• 1:01:57
  if
• 1:01:57
  you
• 1:01:57
  could
• 1:01:58
  share
• 1:01:58
  maybe
• 1:01:58
  some
• 1:01:58
  final
• 1:01:59
  thoughts
• 1:01:59
  here
• 1:02:00
  on
• 1:02:01
  your
• 1:02:01
  whole
• 1:02:01
  experience
• 1:02:02
  and
• 1:02:03
  where
• 1:02:03
  your
• 1:02:04
  see
• 1:02:04
  yourself
• 1:02:04
  going
• 1:02:05
  from
• 1:02:05
  here
• 1:02:06
  as
• 1:02:06
  a
• 1:02:06
  children's
• 1:02:07
  book
• 1:02:07
  author?
• 1:02:08
  Yeah,
• 1:02:08
  I
• 1:02:08
  am.
• 1:02:09
  I'm
• 1:02:10
  really
• 1:02:10
  happy
• 1:02:11
  that
• 1:02:11
  I
• 1:02:11
  did
• 1:02:12
  pursue
• 1:02:12
  this.
• 1:02:14
  It's
• 1:02:14
  been
• 1:02:15
  very
• 1:02:15
  fulfilling
• 1:02:16
  as
• 1:02:16
  much
• 1:02:16
  as
• 1:02:17
  sometimes
• 1:02:17
  it's
• 1:02:17
  frustrating
• 1:02:18
  and
• 1:02:19
  I
• 1:02:20
  will
• 1:02:20
  say
• 1:02:20
  to
• 1:02:20
  myself,
• 1:02:21
  what
• 1:02:21
  have
• 1:02:21
  I
• 1:02:21
  gotten
• 1:02:22
  myself
• 1:02:22
  into?
• 1:02:23
  The
• 1:02:23
  positive
• 1:02:24
  has
• 1:02:24
  outweighed
• 1:02:24
  any
• 1:02:25
  kind
• 1:02:25
  of
• 1:02:25
  like
• 1:02:25
  little
• 1:02:26
  stress
• 1:02:26
  that
• 1:02:26
  I
• 1:02:27
  might
• 1:02:27
  have
• 1:02:27
  had
• 1:02:27
  with
• 1:02:27
  it
• 1:02:28
  or.
• 1:02:28
  And
• 1:02:28
  may
• 1:02:28
  still
• 1:02:29
  have.
• 1:02:30
  The
• 1:02:30
  sense
• 1:02:30
  of
• 1:02:30
  accomplishment
• 1:02:31
  is
• 1:02:31
  huge.
• 1:02:32
  The
• 1:02:33
  knowing
• 1:02:33
  that
• 1:02:34
  I'm
• 1:02:34
  reaching
• 1:02:35
  kids,
• 1:02:35
  they're
• 1:02:36
  enjoying
• 1:02:37
  my
• 1:02:38
  stories,
• 1:02:38
  that
• 1:02:39
  there
• 1:02:39
  are
• 1:02:39
  conversations
• 1:02:40
  that
• 1:02:40
  can
• 1:02:40
  be
• 1:02:41
  had
• 1:02:41
  about
• 1:02:41
  them
• 1:02:42
  that
• 1:02:42
  makes
• 1:02:42
  them
• 1:02:43
  think
• 1:02:44
  and
• 1:02:44
  maybe
• 1:02:44
  inspire
• 1:02:45
  them
• 1:02:45
  and
• 1:02:46
  inspire
• 1:02:46
  other
• 1:02:46
  authors
• 1:02:47
  to
• 1:02:47
  write
• 1:02:48
  and
• 1:02:48
  take
• 1:02:48
  that
• 1:02:49
  step
• 1:02:49
  has
• 1:02:50
  been
• 1:02:50
  very
• 1:02:50
  fulfilling
• 1:02:51
  to
• 1:02:51
  me.
• 1:02:51
  It's
• 1:02:52
  another
• 1:02:52
  thing
• 1:02:52
  I've
• 1:02:52
  always
• 1:02:53
  wanted
• 1:02:53
  to
• 1:02:53
  do.
• 1:02:53
  And
• 1:02:54
  I'm
• 1:02:54
  happy
• 1:02:54
  that
• 1:02:55
  I
• 1:02:55
  am
• 1:02:55
  doing
• 1:02:55
  art.
• 1:02:56
  Absolutely.
• 1:02:57
  I
• 1:02:57
  feel
• 1:02:58
  exactly
• 1:02:58
  the
• 1:02:58
  same
• 1:02:58
  as
• 1:02:59
  you.
• 1:02:59
  I'd
• 1:03:00
  like
• 1:03:00
  to
• 1:03:00
  thank
• 1:03:00
  you
• 1:03:01
  so
• 1:03:01
  much
• 1:03:01
  for
• 1:03:02
  being
• 1:03:02
  a
• 1:03:02
  guest
• 1:03:02
  on
• 1:03:03
  our
• 1:03:03
  podcast
• 1:03:04
  show,
• 1:03:04
  the
• 1:03:04
  Adventures
• 1:03:05
  in
• 1:03:05
  the
• 1:03:05
  Heart
• 1:03:05
  of
• 1:03:05
  Children's
• 1:03:06
  Book
• 1:03:06
  Authors.
• 1:03:07
  Your
• 1:03:08
  generosity
• 1:03:08
  of
• 1:03:09
  time
• 1:03:09
  and
• 1:03:09
  your
• 1:03:09
  insights
• 1:03:10
  have
• 1:03:10
  been
• 1:03:11
  like,
• 1:03:11
  just
• 1:03:12
  so
• 1:03:12
  invaluable.
• 1:03:13
  I
• 1:03:13
  think
• 1:03:14
  it'll
• 1:03:14
  help
• 1:03:14
  a
• 1:03:14
  lot
• 1:03:14
  of
• 1:03:15
  people
• 1:03:16
  and
• 1:03:16
  I
• 1:03:17
  also
• 1:03:17
  want
• 1:03:17
  to
• 1:03:17
  say
• 1:03:17
  to
• 1:03:17
  the
• 1:03:18
  audience,
• 1:03:18
  Terry
• 1:03:19
  has
• 1:03:19
  talked
• 1:03:20
  about
• 1:03:20
  so
• 1:03:21
  many
• 1:03:22
  great
• 1:03:22
  resources.
• 1:03:23
  After
• 1:03:24
  Terry
• 1:03:24
  and
• 1:03:24
  I
• 1:03:24
  stopped
• 1:03:25
  the
• 1:03:25
  recording,
• 1:03:25
  I'll
• 1:03:26
  just
• 1:03:26
  ask
• 1:03:26
  Terry
• 1:03:27
  to
• 1:03:27
  send
• 1:03:28
  us
• 1:03:28
  the
• 1:03:29
  different
• 1:03:29
  links
• 1:03:29
  and
• 1:03:29
  the
• 1:03:29
  different
• 1:03:30
  names
• 1:03:30
  of
• 1:03:30
  people,
• 1:03:31
  and
• 1:03:31
  I'll
• 1:03:31
  definitely
• 1:03:31
  make
• 1:03:32
  sure
• 1:03:32
  all
• 1:03:32
  of
• 1:03:32
  that
• 1:03:33
  shows
• 1:03:33
  up
• 1:03:33
  in
• 1:03:33
  the
• 1:03:34
  show
• 1:03:34
  notes
• 1:03:34
  so
• 1:03:34
  that
• 1:03:35
  people
• 1:03:35
  can
• 1:03:35
  go
• 1:03:36
  and
• 1:03:36
  have
• 1:03:36
  a
• 1:03:37
  look
• 1:03:37
  at
• 1:03:37
  those
• 1:03:37
  resources
• 1:03:38
  for
• 1:03:38
  themselves.
• 1:03:39
  If
• 1:03:39
  you've
• 1:03:39
  enjoyed
• 1:03:40
  this
• 1:03:40
  episode,
• 1:03:40
  I'd
• 1:03:41
  also
• 1:03:41
  encourage
• 1:03:41
  you
• 1:03:42
  to
• 1:03:42
  go
• 1:03:42
  to
• 1:03:42
  either
• 1:03:43
  subscribe
• 1:03:44
  to
• 1:03:44
  our
• 1:03:44
  podcast
• 1:03:45
  show
• 1:03:45
  or
• 1:03:45
  go
• 1:03:45
  to
• 1:03:45
  Ratings
• 1:03:46
  and
• 1:03:46
  Review
• 1:03:46
  and
• 1:03:47
  just
• 1:03:47
  give
• 1:03:47
  us
• 1:03:47
  a
• 1:03:48
  review
• 1:03:48
  that
• 1:03:48
  would
• 1:03:48
  definitely
• 1:03:49
  be
• 1:03:49
  appreciated
• 1:03:51
  and
• 1:03:52
  feel
• 1:03:52
  free.
• 1:03:53
  Including
• 1:03:53
  you,
• 1:03:54
  Terry.
• 1:03:54
  Feel
• 1:03:54
  free
• 1:03:55
  to
• 1:03:55
  share
• 1:03:55
  this
• 1:03:56
  episode
• 1:03:56
  with
• 1:03:57
  anybody
• 1:03:58
  that
• 1:03:58
  you
• 1:03:58
  think
• 1:03:58
  would
• 1:03:59
  be
• 1:03:59
  inspired
• 1:04:00
  or
• 1:04:00
  enjoy
• 1:04:01
  hearing
• 1:04:01
  about
• 1:04:02
  your
• 1:04:02
  story
• 1:04:03
  and
• 1:04:03
  Santa
• 1:04:03
  Simon.
• 1:04:04
  So
• 1:04:05
  thank
• 1:04:05
  you,
• 1:04:06
  thank
• 1:04:06
  you.
• 1:04:06
  And
• 1:04:07
  again,
• 1:04:07
  I
• 1:04:07
  am
• 1:04:08
  honored
• 1:04:08
  to
• 1:04:08
  have
• 1:04:08
  been
• 1:04:08
  on
• 1:04:09
  your
• 1:04:09
  podcast.
• 1:04:09
  Thank
• 1:04:10
  you
• 1:04:10
  for
• 1:04:10
  inviting
• 1:04:10
  me.