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Amy's Birth Story · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to this very special episode of Outspoken. Amy,
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Speaker 1: we have you back on the podcast to share your
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Speaker 1: birth story. It's been a month since you gave birth
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Speaker 1: to your little boy, Harry. Oh, it's so exciting to
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Speaker 1: be back. I don't know if you guys are happy
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Speaker 1: to have me back. We needed a mediator because Sophie
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Speaker 1: and I just recorded Friday's episode before. I'm a bit
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Speaker 1: sick of each other. So it was nice to get
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Speaker 1: a change of scenery and come and record this with you.
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Speaker 1: Does it feel like any time has passed? Because sitting here,
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Speaker 1: I mean, because Harry's out the house, your husband and
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Speaker 1: mother-in-law have taken him out for a walk. It almost
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Speaker 1: feels like nothing has happened, but so much has happened
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Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, it is weird. I mean,
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Speaker 1: as I said, I'm so happy to be back and
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to talk through the birth story because
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Speaker 1: I've been telling anybody that's willing to listen about it
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Speaker 1: because it is such a huge thing in your life.
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Speaker 1: And I know, Sophie, you've been getting a bit scared
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Speaker 1: of me filling you in on some of the details
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Speaker 1: because it's not long before you're set to give birth. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've been finding it a bit triggering because you have
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Speaker 1: been going into immense detail, but some people like all
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Speaker 1: the gory details. Yeah, Amy was just showing us some
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Speaker 1: snaps of her getting wheeled into the theatre because you
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Speaker 1: had a cesarean. Yeah, well, I was saying to you guys,
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Speaker 1: isn't it funny how your partners, they never really film
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Speaker 1: any content of you. There's a huge joke going around
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Speaker 1: on TikTok and Instagram how always the wife takes these
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Speaker 1: beautiful photos of the husband and the baby and you
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Speaker 1: get these shit photos. Or none. Yeah, or none. Well,
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Speaker 1: Dale decided to film me going into surgery, which is
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Speaker 1: probably not vision I'm going to share because one, I
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Speaker 1: look absolutely horrendous. I have a hairnet on. No one
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Speaker 1: looks good in a hairnet. No, but it's also sort
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Speaker 1: of mortifying because you know what's about to happen, but
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Speaker 1: very cute that he decided to film that vision. I
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Speaker 1: think what I enjoyed about the vision is I can
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Speaker 1: tell knowing you so well that you're trying to look
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Speaker 1: cool about the situation whilst freaking out inside. It's a
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Speaker 1: really weird thing to be wheeled into a surgery when
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Speaker 1: you can just walk yourself. Well, the thing I found
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Speaker 1: so weird about the whole process was a lot of
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Speaker 1: people have asked, oh, why were you booked in for
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Speaker 1: a C-section and did you elect to have it? I
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Speaker 1: did initially elect to have a C-section and you get
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Speaker 1: asked so many times by the midwives, oh, why did
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Speaker 1: you decide to do that? And the reason I decided
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Speaker 1: to do it was one, Kate had such a great
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Speaker 1: experience having a C-section. And for me, I need to
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Speaker 1: know when things are happening. And the part of the
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Speaker 1: C-section that I liked is the fact that you can
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Speaker 1: schedule it in, you can really mentally prepare for it. Also,
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Speaker 1: I had a large fibroid and as the midwife appointments
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Speaker 1: went on, a lot of the midwives said, actually, it's
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Speaker 1: really good that you have booked in to get a
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Speaker 1: C-section because the fibroid was quite large. It was actually
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Speaker 1: in the incision area. There were concerns that maybe if
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Speaker 1: I had had a vaginal birth that it might've blocked
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Speaker 1: the birth canal as well. This is the thing that
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Speaker 1: scares me because I hear a lot of people talking
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Speaker 1: about how they were kind of pressured in to have
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Speaker 1: a vaginal birth and then they've gone on to have
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Speaker 1: a emergency C-section and then the doctor goes, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we thought that might happen, but we wanted to give
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Speaker 1: you a go. And I'm like, what? I think there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of judgment when someone says that they want
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Speaker 1: an elective C-section and I'm kind of confused why. Both
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Speaker 1: processes are incredibly difficult and tough. I wouldn't say that
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Speaker 1: one is easier over the other. And at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, you know your body best, you know
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Speaker 1: your mental health best, you know what's going to work
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Speaker 1: for you. And I think because all three of us
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Speaker 1: have had, well, having kids so close to each other,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people have been like, why are they
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Speaker 1: all doing it? Like, Is it just because one of
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Speaker 1: them's doing it so they all have to do it?
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Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. If anything, I felt
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Speaker 1: the pressure of, oh God, maybe I should have a
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Speaker 1: vaginal birth just to shake it up a bit. I
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Speaker 1: think some of the judgment comes around the recovery from
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Speaker 1: a C-section and people think, oh, these women are just
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Speaker 1: going into it blindly and they don't understand that, you know,
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Speaker 1: for the next six weeks, you have to actually go
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Speaker 1: through That recovery process. I mean, I can't drive for
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Speaker 1: another two weeks. I feel like I need to remind
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Speaker 1: you to slow down though, because the other day you
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Speaker 1: had us over for dinner and you were like mopping
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Speaker 1: the floor on the ground with a piece of paper towel.
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Speaker 1: You went for a 5k walk a week after. These
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Speaker 1: are things you should not be doing because you need
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Speaker 1: to let your body heal. I actually think the judgment
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Speaker 1: comes from people assuming that getting a C-section is a
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Speaker 1: bit of a cop-out and it's the easy way out
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Speaker 1: and you're not having to go through you know, an
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Speaker 1: intense labor, but after hearing both of your experiences, it's
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Speaker 1: definitely not an easy process. And I don't think anyone
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Speaker 1: should go into it blindly. I think everyone should do
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Speaker 1: their own research and work out what is best for them.
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Speaker 1: I remember watching Sarah's day's birth blog, where she documented
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Speaker 1: her vaginal deliveries. And that was what sealed the deal
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Speaker 1: for me. I was like, definitely book that cesarean. I
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Speaker 1: cannot go through that. Hats off to women that can. Again, though,
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Speaker 1: as you've all said, the cesarean is not an easy process.
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Speaker 1: It just what one suits you. Let's get into the
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Speaker 1: day itself. Maybe start off by telling us how many
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Speaker 1: weeks you ended up actually getting to and how you
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Speaker 1: felt the morning of. Yeah. So I was 39 weeks
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Speaker 1: and one day pregnant when I delivered Harry and it
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Speaker 1: was quite a surreal morning. So we were told to
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Speaker 1: arrive at 10am and Kate had been told to arrive
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Speaker 1: at the same time when she gave birth to Jack.
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Speaker 1: She ended up sitting around until 5pm. Well, I had
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Speaker 1: him at 5pm. Yeah. So it was quite a long day.
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Speaker 1: So we packed everything. We had Dale's switch. We had books.
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Speaker 1: We looked like we were going to stay at the
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Speaker 1: hospital for two weeks. You had so much food. I
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Speaker 1: didn't understand. You had bags and bags and bags of Woolies,
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Speaker 1: hot cross buns and all things that you would never eat.
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Speaker 1: I told Dale to go get the snacks and I
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Speaker 1: think he didn't know specifically what I wanted. So he
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Speaker 1: came home with every kind of chocolate. It was great.
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Speaker 1: We didn't really end up eating much of it, but
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Speaker 1: On the morning, I got a call at around eight
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Speaker 1: o'clock and it was the hospital saying, actually, you were
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Speaker 1: going to go in second, but for some reason, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, the person who was going in first, they're
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Speaker 1: not coming. I don't know what happened. They're like, can
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Speaker 1: you get there a little bit earlier? So I said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we can. So anyway, we didn't get there earlier. We
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Speaker 1: got there at the 10 a.m. time slot. I think
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Speaker 1: you need to tell the listeners what Dale was doing
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Speaker 1: because there's that trend at the moment where people share
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Speaker 1: what their husband does before guests arrive at the house.
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Speaker 1: And I think Dale, you know, normally Dale does something ridiculous. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: in the past, for an example, we had some of
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Speaker 1: Dale's friends coming over and the house was an absolute bomb.
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Speaker 1: While I was inside cleaning the house, he decided to
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Speaker 1: spray paint the shed. You know what I mean? Like
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Speaker 1: with one of those spray guns. Well, this is a
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Speaker 1: whole new category, stupid things that your partner's done right
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Speaker 1: before you've given birth. So I was telling Dale, oh
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Speaker 1: my God, we better hurry up. Like we want that
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Speaker 1: first time slot. Let's get this going. And Dale hadn't
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Speaker 1: packed the car. So I assumed he was packing the car,
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Speaker 1: but he had been outside cleaning under our carport. So
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Speaker 1: our lounge room, we've got a window and it looks
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Speaker 1: out into the carport. And he had said that he
6:35
Speaker 1: couldn't have relaxed during the maternity leave if it had
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Speaker 1: been dirty. So he left it to the day of
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Speaker 1: the birth. Let's just put it into perspective. You have
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Speaker 1: this date for six weeks now. You've known when it's happening. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So maybe it's nesting. That's his type of nesting. Well,
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Speaker 1: because he'd been up so early and I was like, Dale,
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Speaker 1: what the hell have you been doing? Nothing's packed. And
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Speaker 1: then he insisted that we stop so he could get
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Speaker 1: breakfast at McDonald's on the way. And I said, Dale,
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Speaker 1: we're not missing this time slot. Particularly because you have
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Speaker 1: been fasting as well. So we arrived at the hospital. Luckily,
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Speaker 1: Dale listened to me and we didn't go past McDonald's
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Speaker 1: because it wasn't even on the way. Because I thought
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Speaker 1: you initially said that you guys were on time because
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Speaker 1: I thought that there was a bit of an attitude
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Speaker 1: from some of the staff being like, where have you
7:18
Speaker 1: guys been? Oh, well, so basically what happens is you
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Speaker 1: arrive and you have to sort of check in as
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Speaker 1: a patient. So while I was doing all the paperwork,
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Speaker 1: Dale went off and there was a nearby cafeteria. So
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Speaker 1: in the hospital, so he went, how's this combination? He
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Speaker 1: went and got a coffee and an egg sandwich. I
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Speaker 1: remember this story. I can't remember which influencer said it
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Speaker 1: or who said it, but Apparently their husband ate like
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Speaker 1: sour cream and onion chips and the smell of it
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Speaker 1: on their breath made them want to punch their husband
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Speaker 1: out whilst they were in labor. That's our favorite chip
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Speaker 1: flavor at the moment. Oh, that's good. Yeah. We got it.
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Speaker 1: Side note, on Boxing Day, because it was the cheapest
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Speaker 1: packet of chips at the only shop that was open.
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Speaker 1: And then we've had a real craving for it. It's
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Speaker 1: been like a pregnancy craving. Well, I... I don't remember
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Speaker 1: smelling the egg on Dale's breath, but I said to him,
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Speaker 1: that's just a ticking time bomb. Like having a coffee
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Speaker 1: and an egg sandwich. Especially when you've got like public
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Speaker 1: toilets to their knees. But the funniest thing was, so
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Speaker 1: Dale was off getting his sandwich and they give you
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Speaker 1: your little, what is it like the bracelet? No, like
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Speaker 1: the hospital tag. And I ended up putting my arm
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Speaker 1: forward as if I was about to be admitted into
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Speaker 1: a nightclub getting a stamp. Like palm up. Yeah. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, sorry, that's probably the wrong way.
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Speaker 1: I'm acting like I'm going into a nightclub. And the
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Speaker 1: lady's like, you won't be going to a nightclub for
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Speaker 1: a very long time. Oh, thank you so much. I'm
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Speaker 1: still getting over the fact that Dale went and got
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Speaker 1: himself food because Reese was like, oh, I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to eat anything. in front of you I feel bad
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Speaker 1: I said to Dale look I would prefer you to
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Speaker 1: eat because Dale can get a bit hangry so I
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Speaker 1: said just go and eat well every time Brandon and
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Speaker 1: I go to the hospital for a midwife's appointment I
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Speaker 1: have to line up while he dashes out to get
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Speaker 1: a quick powerade because he is so scared of hospitals
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Speaker 1: and he is convinced he'll faint during one of these appointments.
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Speaker 1: But they don't even do anything. That's what I said.
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Speaker 1: I said, I'm the one that's getting all the needles
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Speaker 1: and stuff and I'm the one that's having this. They
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Speaker 1: measure your stomach. I know. And then find the heart rate.
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Speaker 1: And then they just ask you for heartbeat. Because I'm
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Speaker 1: just like, can't you just stand with me? You know
9:13
Speaker 1: what I mean? Can't you just stand with me in
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Speaker 1: the lot? Well, it's funny you say that because. when
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Speaker 1: we were getting ready to go into surgery, I could
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Speaker 1: tell that the doctor was sort of looking Dale up
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Speaker 1: and down. And he said to him, oh, how are
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Speaker 1: you with needles and everything? Like, are you feeling okay?
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Speaker 1: And Dale's like, yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm just here
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Speaker 1: to support Amy. I'm fine. And they basically said that
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Speaker 1: a lot of husbands actually faint during the C-section. I
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Speaker 1: can see why because in the lead up to Mother's Day, Sophie,
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Speaker 1: I hope you haven't seen it. Oh, I know exactly
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. There's this photo and video going
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Speaker 1: around of how long the epidural needle is. Oh, no,
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen this. And to keep that in mind
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Speaker 1: when you were buying your wife a Mother's Day present.
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Speaker 1: Is it actually like a real picture of the needle? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was glad I saw this after because I had
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Speaker 1: no idea how long the needle was. But basically when
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Speaker 1: you go in, it's funny, as you said, Kate, they
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Speaker 1: wheel you all this way through the hospital and then
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Speaker 1: you have to walk into the operating theatre and sit
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Speaker 1: down on the operating table, which is a bit confronting.
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Speaker 1: And that's when they put your cannula in. To be honest,
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Speaker 1: that was probably the most painful thing. Then they give
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Speaker 1: you a pillow and you have to hold onto the
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Speaker 1: pillow and crouch over. And this is when they're putting
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Speaker 1: in the epidural. And look, it was more so just
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Speaker 1: the thought of having a needle in your back, which
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Speaker 1: is the most confronting thing. It wasn't actually super painful.
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you're pregnant, you're prodded with every needle
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Speaker 1: in the lead up. So you're kind of used to it.
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Speaker 1: It's the mental thing. Did they talk to you? Because
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Speaker 1: my doctor was like chatting to me and no one
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Speaker 1: really said to stay still, which freaked me out. the
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Speaker 1: weirdest thing was how many people were in the room.
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Speaker 1: So there was, I think we counted 13 people. And
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Speaker 1: it was funny because only a few of them spoke
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Speaker 1: to you. So it was like you, I said to Dale,
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Speaker 1: it was like we were walked into the set of ER.
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Speaker 1: It was all these people just walking around. So the
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Speaker 1: doctor said, you're going to be numb from the neck down.
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Speaker 1: So you're not obviously going to feel anything, but you
11:04
Speaker 1: are going to feel a bit of pressure. So she said,
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Speaker 1: basically it's like your body is a handbag and we're
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Speaker 1: rummaging around looking for your keys. That's what it's going
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Speaker 1: to feel like. And I've got to say that was
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Speaker 1: a great description because it did feel like that. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if I need this level of description five
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Speaker 1: weeks out, but thank you for that. Sophie's passed out.
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Speaker 1: Brandon's already on the floor. Well, when they said that
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Speaker 1: a lot of husbands faint, I did instantly think of Brandon.
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Speaker 1: So I think what they do is they make sure
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Speaker 1: that the husband is is seated and away because they
11:33
Speaker 1: don't want them collapsing on some of the, you know,
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Speaker 1: like the utensils. I've heard some story about how a
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Speaker 1: husband has collapsed and they've ended up having to have
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Speaker 1: an operation themselves. So this is Brandon's biggest fear. His
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Speaker 1: biggest fear initially was fainting at our wedding. Our wedding
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Speaker 1: then ended up being 40 degrees and, you know, it
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Speaker 1: gave him a complex. Thankfully he didn't faint. He lasted
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Speaker 1: the whole day. But now he's got it in his head.
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Speaker 1: Imagine if I faint and take away any attention from
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Speaker 1: Sophie and I'm not there to support her. You need
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Speaker 1: someone on standby in case he does. I'm sure he
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Speaker 1: will rise for the occasion. I think it's kind of
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Speaker 1: good to know that it is confronting before going in.
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Speaker 1: It would be fascinating if like Amy or I could
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Speaker 1: go in with you because I wonder if it would
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Speaker 1: trigger any PTSD. I wish you could have two people
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Speaker 1: or three people in because I would like you guys there.
12:17
Speaker 1: Could you maybe explain Brandon's issues with hospitals and maybe
12:20
Speaker 1: you get like a support person for him? His mum's
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Speaker 1: just there. Yeah, I could just imagine Brandon's dad coming
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Speaker 1: in and holding your hand. All right, mate, it's all right. Well,
12:27
Speaker 1: I did say to Brandon, don't feel like you have
12:29
Speaker 1: to cut the umbilical cord because I actually personally would,
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Speaker 1: that would make me vomit. That was the funniest thing.
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Speaker 1: So as soon as they got Harry out of my stomach,
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Speaker 1: they lower the sheet down and you see your baby
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Speaker 1: and it's, I was just like, oh, my God, how
12:43
Speaker 1: big is he? How big is he? We were joking
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Speaker 1: off mic. It's like they drop it and then because
12:48
Speaker 1: you showed us a photo, it's like a kind of
12:51
Speaker 1: golem figure being like, ah, like screaming at you and
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Speaker 1: you're kind of like. It's beautiful. They are. They're so
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Speaker 1: beautiful but it's so confronting. That's a real baby. It's
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Speaker 1: a bizarre thing of seeing, you know, your stomach is
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Speaker 1: there and knowing that this baby was removed. It's like
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Speaker 1: it's wild. What about the pressure on your stomach? Because
13:08
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you might feel something and then you
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Speaker 1: just feel this massive. push yes you feel the push
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Speaker 1: but the instant relief I felt from having Harry out
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Speaker 1: of my stomach well even when you were on the
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Speaker 1: operating table yes it was so I said to Sophie
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Speaker 1: you're gonna feel this instant relief but the crazy thing
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Speaker 1: is so they show him to you and then they
13:26
Speaker 1: have to take him away quickly because they had a
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Speaker 1: nurse and doctor look over him oh they didn't put
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Speaker 1: him on you straight away no so they went over
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Speaker 1: to cut the umbilical cord so it's quite funny because
13:36
Speaker 1: everyone says once you've had the baby no one cares
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Speaker 1: about the mother it's sort of everything you know all
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Speaker 1: you get asked is about the baby And it was
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Speaker 1: like this instant thing where I'm lying on this operating table.
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Speaker 1: My arms are spread out. Did you have to spread
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Speaker 1: your arms out? Yeah, I had. Oh, were they like
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Speaker 1: chained down almost? They weren't chained down, but I had
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Speaker 1: one because the anaesthetist or whatever was monitoring all my
13:56
Speaker 1: vitals and everything. And then my other arm was on
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Speaker 1: the other side because I was holding Dale's hand. But
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Speaker 1: Dale vanished because he had to cut the umbilical cord.
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Speaker 1: So I kind of was just looking over and everyone
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Speaker 1: was suddenly over there with Harry. And then I thought,
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Speaker 1: because they said they were cutting the umbilical cord, and
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Speaker 1: I thought, how fucking long is the umbilical cord? This
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Speaker 1: is quite far away. It's long. No, but then you
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Speaker 1: realise they've cut it. It's just for show that they
14:17
Speaker 1: let the dad cut the rest of it. Oh, yeah,
14:18
Speaker 1: they cut it further down and then they give you
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Speaker 1: like the little. Reece said it was like a rubbery
14:23
Speaker 1: piece of chicken or something. Hold on, hold on. We
14:24
Speaker 1: want people to still listen. People might be eating their breakfast.
14:27
Speaker 1: It's making me feel a bit queasy. I think if
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Speaker 1: you're tuning into a– a birth story. You know, it's
14:30
Speaker 1: going to be a bit gruesome. What was the moment
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Speaker 1: like when you first saw Harry? Well, I immediately noticed
14:38
Speaker 1: his cute eyebrows and I was like, oh my God.
14:42
Speaker 1: I just, yeah, it's funny because I thought I'd cry
14:45
Speaker 1: or something, but because you're so amped up and I
14:49
Speaker 1: don't know, it's this really weird feeling. It was so
14:51
Speaker 1: exciting to see him because you do imagine, oh my God,
14:53
Speaker 1: what is this baby going to look like? Because we
14:55
Speaker 1: were joking, I think it was the day before we
14:57
Speaker 1: went to Marion Shopping Centre and we were having a
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Speaker 1: coffee and there's this one photo of Dale as a
15:02
Speaker 1: baby that's been haunting you because it doesn't look like him.
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Speaker 1: It looks, yeah, it's a very unfathomable photo. Look, if
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Speaker 1: you saw this photo and you saw- Maybe you have
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Speaker 1: to share it. Well, and you saw 50 other men
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Speaker 1: and a photo of Dale. You would never think that
15:14
Speaker 1: that was a photo of him as a baby. It
15:16
Speaker 1: looks nothing like it. Unfortunately, Harry came out not looking
15:19
Speaker 1: like that photo. He's absolutely gorgeous. But he does look
15:22
Speaker 1: like Dale, as in he looks like– He looks like
15:24
Speaker 1: what Dale would think he would look like as a baby. Yeah,
15:27
Speaker 1: but then I also see elements of you as well.
15:29
Speaker 1: I think maybe the reason you don't cry in those
15:32
Speaker 1: situations or you didn't cry in that situation is probably
15:34
Speaker 1: because it's such a confronting– slash scary situation to be
15:38
Speaker 1: in an operating theater and you're probably just trying not
15:40
Speaker 1: to freak out about what's happening I feel like yes
15:42
Speaker 1: once the baby's out you're just like oh hang on
15:45
Speaker 1: I'm actually under the knife did you get a glimpse
15:48
Speaker 1: of anything that was going on like I did no
15:50
Speaker 1: well What was amusing was the anesthetist was talking to
15:54
Speaker 1: me the whole time. I was talking to him more
15:56
Speaker 1: than Dale because they're clearly trying to take your mind
15:58
Speaker 1: off it. He was lovely. Mine pissed off for ages.
16:01
Speaker 1: Mine just was like, yep, I'm out of here. Maybe
16:03
Speaker 1: because you were the last one of the day. Yeah,
16:05
Speaker 1: he was so nice and he was talking about his
16:07
Speaker 1: kids and, you know, sometimes when it's awkward when you've
16:10
Speaker 1: got really intense eye contact with someone and you sort
16:12
Speaker 1: of look around to divert the gaze. So he was
16:15
Speaker 1: talking to me and then I kind of like looked up,
16:17
Speaker 1: you know, just... to think of what else I was
16:18
Speaker 1: going to say to him. I saw the reflection of
16:21
Speaker 1: my insides. But because I didn't have my glasses on,
16:24
Speaker 1: my eyesight's pretty poor, so I couldn't really make out
16:26
Speaker 1: what was going on. But I thought, no, just look
16:29
Speaker 1: into this guy's eyes. Weren't we joking that you were
16:31
Speaker 1: going to come in with a hat on, like a
16:32
Speaker 1: baseball cap on and shades? Sunglasses, yeah. Disassociate yourself from
16:36
Speaker 1: the room. Well, the funniest thing was when I was
16:38
Speaker 1: being wheeled out after being sewed up, I was like, oh,
16:41
Speaker 1: thank you, everybody. Thanks, guys. And I don't think people
16:45
Speaker 1: thank everyone normally when they're removed. She's very polite. Yeah. Well,
16:50
Speaker 1: someone has asked whether you wore makeup or did your
16:53
Speaker 1: hair during the birth, because we have had an episode
16:56
Speaker 1: years ago where we spoke about Indy Clinton, who got
16:58
Speaker 1: a lot of attention for having a fake tan looking great,
17:01
Speaker 1: like looking immaculate. I can see why people do that
17:04
Speaker 1: because you feel like utter shit. But you can't have,
17:07
Speaker 1: this is what is bothering me. You can't have a
17:09
Speaker 1: fake tan on when you get a cesarean due to
17:11
Speaker 1: infection risk. So technically when I went to my appointment,
17:15
Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact name of it, but it's
17:17
Speaker 1: the appointment you go to. Is it your admissions appointment? Yeah.
17:21
Speaker 1: So I went to that and I wasn't told that
17:24
Speaker 1: you couldn't wear makeup. Well, you skipped out early so
17:26
Speaker 1: you didn't even get the form. Accidentally. I think you
17:28
Speaker 1: purposely because I was told that I was not allowed
17:31
Speaker 1: to wear makeup, not even allowed to wear lotion, had
17:33
Speaker 1: to use special soap, all this stuff. So I followed
17:35
Speaker 1: the rules. Special soap. Oh, I didn't. But I followed
17:38
Speaker 1: all the rules and then you were like, oh, no,
17:39
Speaker 1: I'm just going to wear makeup. how does it really
17:41
Speaker 1: affect things? That's what I'm sort of questioning. I didn't,
17:44
Speaker 1: I just put on a bit of foundation. I didn't
17:48
Speaker 1: put mascara on. I just put like water on my eye.
17:50
Speaker 1: Like I, I didn't look great, but I just, for
17:54
Speaker 1: some reason, I just felt more comfortable with a tiny
17:56
Speaker 1: bit of foundation on. All over TikTok, I see a
17:58
Speaker 1: lot of pregnant women wearing the heatless curls. So they'll
18:01
Speaker 1: go in with their hair all rolled up and then
18:04
Speaker 1: about half an hour before they know they're going to
18:05
Speaker 1: give birth, they get their husband to help them take
18:07
Speaker 1: it out so that they look really good for the photo.
18:09
Speaker 1: But you're so sweaty. Like even after the myces area,
18:11
Speaker 1: I was so sweaty. Like I'd straighten my hair because
18:13
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've got to do something to
18:15
Speaker 1: combat this no makeup. And it was just shit afterwards.
18:17
Speaker 1: That's what I don't get how some people look. I mean, sorry,
18:19
Speaker 1: this is absolutely fickle. And we're just talking about this
18:21
Speaker 1: because people laugh, but I don't know how some people
18:23
Speaker 1: look so good in their post-birth photos at the hospital.
18:27
Speaker 1: They didn't even really take a photo of Dale and
18:30
Speaker 1: I together. Really? Yeah, we only really got photos of
18:32
Speaker 1: Harry and I don't care because I don't even want
18:35
Speaker 1: the photos. I've got a great one of me in
18:37
Speaker 1: a hairnet with no makeup on that's never seen the
18:38
Speaker 1: light of day. There were generally photos of me looking
18:40
Speaker 1: gross lying there being cut open but there wasn't actually
18:43
Speaker 1: like a shot of the three of us. Oh, that's disappointing.
18:45
Speaker 1: But I was going to say you mentioned, Sophie, about
18:48
Speaker 1: how fickle it is about makeup and whatever. But, I mean,
18:51
Speaker 1: as we said, it's what makes you feel comfortable and
18:53
Speaker 1: But I know a lot of people say that after
18:55
Speaker 1: you've given birth, you don't give a shit about anybody
18:58
Speaker 1: seeing your private parts and you, and I totally get
19:01
Speaker 1: that now because throughout the whole experience of being pregnant,
19:05
Speaker 1: I didn't have to show anybody my vagina until the
19:08
Speaker 1: day of the birth. And that was probably the most
19:10
Speaker 1: traumatic thing was. And then you're frog lugging it out
19:12
Speaker 1: to the whole theater. Yeah. So what happened was I
19:15
Speaker 1: got the epidural or the spinal block and then it's
19:19
Speaker 1: so crazy. You just instantly feel it sweep throughout your body.
19:23
Speaker 1: You just suddenly you have no feeling in your legs.
19:26
Speaker 1: And then they go, oh, now we're putting in the catheter.
19:29
Speaker 1: And at this stage they had the sheet up. So
19:31
Speaker 1: I couldn't see what was going on. However, I could
19:34
Speaker 1: still feel that they had just taken my gown off.
19:37
Speaker 1: Like I could just feel like. How do you feel
19:39
Speaker 1: that still? Because you can feel the sensation. But they
19:42
Speaker 1: don't take it off. Well, whatever. It felt removed. Like
19:45
Speaker 1: they'd rolled it up or whatever they had done with it.
19:48
Speaker 1: I feel my legs being pushed into the. this position.
19:51
Speaker 1: And then that went on for quite a while. I'd
19:54
Speaker 1: rather not be told. I'd rather just be like unaware. Again,
19:57
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I just would like
19:59
Speaker 1: to be unaware that I'm frog-legging in front of all
20:01
Speaker 1: these people. Dale said by the end of it, like
20:04
Speaker 1: the second day or, yeah, was it second? No, third
20:06
Speaker 1: day we were in hospital. when we're about to leave,
20:08
Speaker 1: he's like, you are a changed woman. You don't even flinch.
20:12
Speaker 1: The nurses will come in. They'll just lift your gown,
20:14
Speaker 1: look at you, remove your pad, and you don't even care.
20:17
Speaker 1: It's weird, that whole pad removal thing. I think it's
20:20
Speaker 1: also because you've got your boobs out the second you
20:22
Speaker 1: get into recovery. So Soph and I were recording a
20:24
Speaker 1: podcast episode when you went in to give birth. And
20:28
Speaker 1: it was all very rushed. And then we were like,
20:30
Speaker 1: hang on, we haven't heard from Amy for hours. And
20:33
Speaker 1: we were so annoyed because Dale had your phone and
20:36
Speaker 1: he was being very cryptic with information. And we finally
20:39
Speaker 1: got a message saying, oh yeah, mum and bub doing well.
20:43
Speaker 1: And then that was kind of it. And we were like, well,
20:45
Speaker 1: when are we allowed to go down? Because you guys
20:47
Speaker 1: camped out at the hospital, but we were all like,
20:51
Speaker 1: oh no, we're not going to do that because I
20:52
Speaker 1: think you ended up wasting like six hours. It was horrible.
20:54
Speaker 1: What happened was, and I didn't realize this at the time,
20:57
Speaker 1: is they were monitoring me because when I came out
21:00
Speaker 1: of surgery and I was in recovery, this might be
21:02
Speaker 1: a bit TMI, but in my bag, in my catheter,
21:06
Speaker 1: I had a bit of blood. So I think they
21:08
Speaker 1: thought they might've nicked my bladder. And so I was
21:10
Speaker 1: in recovery for probably five hours. Five hours? It was
21:14
Speaker 1: something crazy like that. So by the time we got
21:16
Speaker 1: back to the room, that's when Dale wanted to tell
21:19
Speaker 1: everyone to come in because everything we felt so bad
21:22
Speaker 1: after going through that process that we were there in
21:24
Speaker 1: the waiting room knowing what was going on in recovery.
21:27
Speaker 1: I remember like, Dad was like, oh, have you let
21:29
Speaker 1: them know that we're here? And we're sitting in recovery
21:32
Speaker 1: and one of the midwives could hear all this and
21:34
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, would you like us to let your
21:35
Speaker 1: family into recovery? We were like, no. Oh, gosh, that
21:39
Speaker 1: would have been awful. There have been some questions about
21:42
Speaker 1: what hospital you delivered Harry in. It was Flinders Medical Centre.
21:46
Speaker 1: So I went public. I've got private health insurance, but
21:48
Speaker 1: I didn't have the complete cover that I needed to
21:50
Speaker 1: go private. But even if I did, I still think
21:53
Speaker 1: I would have opted to go public. Oh, the money
21:55
Speaker 1: that you say. Our public health system... I mean, it
21:58
Speaker 1: has its flaws, but in terms of the maternity ward
22:01
Speaker 1: is absolutely excellent. Oh, I have nothing but positive things
22:05
Speaker 1: to say about Flinders Medical Centre. The doctors were amazing.
22:08
Speaker 1: The facility, like the actual operating theatre was incredible. Well,
22:12
Speaker 1: you have access to a broader range of doctors as well.
22:15
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If anything bad happens when you're in
22:17
Speaker 1: a private hospital, you get sent to the public hospital. Yeah.
22:20
Speaker 1: And all of the midwives were so lovely. Just going
22:23
Speaker 1: back to the whole not caring what anyone thinks after
22:25
Speaker 1: giving birth, I didn't realize, and Kate, you never really
22:28
Speaker 1: went into the detail, I didn't know how much the
22:31
Speaker 1: midwives were hands-on with helping you express milk. Yeah, it's
22:34
Speaker 1: full on. Because I had this nurse and she was
22:37
Speaker 1: so nice. She came in, she was the midwife that
22:39
Speaker 1: was on the night shift. She was literally squeezing my
22:43
Speaker 1: boobs to get colostrum out and syringing colostrum out of
22:46
Speaker 1: them because I was having trouble with Harry latching and
22:50
Speaker 1: also because I had a C-section and Sometimes your milk
22:53
Speaker 1: doesn't come in for a while. You're actually kind of
22:55
Speaker 1: grateful when they do it. Oh, I was. I was
22:57
Speaker 1: in recovery, just had surgery. And they're like trying to,
23:00
Speaker 1: now you just do it like this. And then the
23:01
Speaker 1: woman's like, do you want me to just do it
23:03
Speaker 1: for you? I was like, yeah. Yeah, you feel like
23:05
Speaker 1: you're a cow being milked. It's a strange feeling. Was
23:08
Speaker 1: Dale in there with the syringe too? Because we joked
23:11
Speaker 1: that Rhys turned into a lactation consultant in the early days. Well,
23:14
Speaker 1: night two, a lot of people don't tell you, night
23:17
Speaker 1: two is when the baby actually wakes up and they
23:19
Speaker 1: start crying. Yeah, night one, you're like, oh, this is amazing. Yeah,
23:22
Speaker 1: at night one, they don't do anything. So Sophie, be warned,
23:24
Speaker 1: night two is where they wake up because the baby's
23:27
Speaker 1: trying to help get your milk in. So they're wanting
23:29
Speaker 1: to feed off you constantly and So night two, we
23:31
Speaker 1: were like, oh my God, I'm getting no colostrum. I
23:34
Speaker 1: feel so bad. He's not eating that much. So at
23:37
Speaker 1: one stage, Dale was there just, I was squeezing my
23:41
Speaker 1: boob and he had the syringe and he was like,
23:43
Speaker 1: come on, let's keep going, keep going. Like we were
23:45
Speaker 1: just getting all of this. And it was kind of
23:47
Speaker 1: really addictive of how much colostrum you could get into
23:49
Speaker 1: these syringes. And I just looked at him and said,
23:52
Speaker 1: what has our life become? Two days ago, we were
23:56
Speaker 1: just At home watching Suits and now we're syringing colostrum
24:00
Speaker 1: into it. It is that weird moment but it's also
24:02
Speaker 1: like makes your relationship so much stronger. You really feel
24:05
Speaker 1: like a team in that moment. Yeah, 100%. We were
24:08
Speaker 1: finally allowed to come in at around 6 o'clock, I
24:11
Speaker 1: think it was, and I was spewing because everyone had
24:15
Speaker 1: made this big point that we want everyone to go
24:17
Speaker 1: in together. I was in the car park and Mum,
24:19
Speaker 1: I called and said, oh, are you waiting for me?
24:21
Speaker 1: And Mum goes, oh, sorry, we've already gone in. I
24:22
Speaker 1: was like, what? I could hear that you were inaudible. Also,
24:25
Speaker 1: I think Dale's mum was meant to come in at
24:27
Speaker 1: the same time as you and she couldn't find the
24:30
Speaker 1: car park so she was a bit late too. So
24:32
Speaker 1: I felt bad about that. I was happy though because
24:34
Speaker 1: it meant that you guys could record Jack's first meeting
24:37
Speaker 1: of Harry. He wasn't that interested. I don't think he's
24:40
Speaker 1: been that interested in him. Well, I don't think he
24:42
Speaker 1: really knows that he's a baby or a person. So
24:44
Speaker 1: we brought him in and Jack's new skill is shaking
24:48
Speaker 1: his head. So I think mum goes, and Jack, is
24:51
Speaker 1: this your best friend? And he started shaking his head no.
24:55
Speaker 1: And everyone just lost it. We need to share that video.
24:57
Speaker 1: It's so cute. I think it's one for the 21st.
25:00
Speaker 1: It was just amazing for me because obviously I've been
25:02
Speaker 1: on the other end of it. And it was so
25:04
Speaker 1: incredible to go in there and get to meet this
25:06
Speaker 1: beautiful baby and cuddle with him without having to actually
25:08
Speaker 1: do anything. It was fantastic. He's such a little cutie.
25:11
Speaker 1: I still think he doesn't wake up that often. I
25:13
Speaker 1: think he's just an easy breezy baby. You should have
25:15
Speaker 1: been here last night. Oh, my God. He woke up.
25:19
Speaker 1: He was really fussing. He vomited a few times. I
25:23
Speaker 1: love the fact that we all say he constantly looks
25:25
Speaker 1: like he's judging you and I don't know whether it's
25:26
Speaker 1: because of his cute eyebrows. Or the fact that he
25:29
Speaker 1: really didn't open his eyes for the first couple of days. Yeah,
25:33
Speaker 1: he constantly looks unimpressed by everybody. Well, he kind of
25:35
Speaker 1: looks a tiny bit like Jack because you told me
25:38
Speaker 1: when he first came out, you're like, oh, wow, he
25:40
Speaker 1: looks so much like Jack because they both got a
25:41
Speaker 1: dimple on their chin, which we don't really know where
25:43
Speaker 1: it's coming from. Like Rhys has one, but Dale doesn't.
25:46
Speaker 1: So have we got the gene as well? I don't know. Well,
25:49
Speaker 1: I think babies, they change so much. Like when they
25:51
Speaker 1: first come out, they're very puffy. They look quite different.
25:54
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see how he develops in the
25:57
Speaker 1: next couple of months. I can actually see myself sometimes
25:59
Speaker 1: in him. Sometimes I can see Dale's sister in him.
26:01
Speaker 1: It's so crazy the different angles, how different he looks.
26:04
Speaker 1: People want to know how you came up with the name.
26:07
Speaker 1: It is a very royal name, Harry George. Was that intentional? Oh,
26:12
Speaker 1: it wasn't intentional for it to be a royal sounding name.
26:15
Speaker 1: That's not true. You said you were tossing up having HRH. Oh,
26:19
Speaker 1: that was, yeah, the initials. Oh, why are you all
26:21
Speaker 1: about that? The initials, I thought it would be hilarious.
26:23
Speaker 1: His Royal Highness. His Royal Highness, sorry. Because your, well,
26:26
Speaker 1: the last name that Harry has is Humphreys. So you
26:29
Speaker 1: selected one of Dale's hyphenated names. Yeah, that's been a
26:32
Speaker 1: bit of a long running joke that Dale has the
26:33
Speaker 1: longest name ever because he has two middle names. And
26:36
Speaker 1: I said to him, look, I'm happy to take one
26:37
Speaker 1: of the last names because Because I don't know, I
26:40
Speaker 1: just feel like it's hard growing up as a kid
26:41
Speaker 1: with a hugely long hyphenated name. And especially if it's
26:45
Speaker 1: like you don't have one of the surnames in it. Yeah,
26:47
Speaker 1: so I'm going to be changing my surname to Humphreys.
26:49
Speaker 1: So yeah, Harry Humphreys. A friend of mine said it
26:51
Speaker 1: sounded like a rock star name. So I have to ask,
26:54
Speaker 1: were you influenced by your love of Prince Harry? Is
26:56
Speaker 1: that why you came up with Harry Styles? Or Harry
26:58
Speaker 1: Potter because we grew up loving Harry Potter. See, I
27:01
Speaker 1: always thought Soph and I would have a Harry because
27:02
Speaker 1: we were more into Harry Potter than you. When you
27:05
Speaker 1: had Jack, we were discussing baby names and we both said, oh,
27:08
Speaker 1: I've always really liked Harry. And it was one name
27:11
Speaker 1: we just instantly agreed on. It's more so I think
27:13
Speaker 1: the Harry Styles reference. I think Harry is a really
27:15
Speaker 1: cute name. And George, I Googled what are middle names
27:18
Speaker 1: that go with Harry and I saw George pop up
27:20
Speaker 1: and I was like, Harry George, that is just such
27:22
Speaker 1: a cute name. And it turns out that Dale's great
27:25
Speaker 1: grandpa was called Harry George as well. That's like our
27:28
Speaker 1: great grandpa was Jack Edward, which is my size name.
27:31
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the middle name was the same. There
27:34
Speaker 1: was a while where I was trying to persuade you
27:36
Speaker 1: to call him Harry Edward. No, that was my idea.
27:39
Speaker 1: I said to you that we should all call our
27:41
Speaker 1: sons their middle name, Edward, but Sophie doesn't want to
27:43
Speaker 1: do that. So we weren't able to. But that would
27:45
Speaker 1: have been really cute because they're not going to have
27:47
Speaker 1: the same last name. Yeah, but I think that they
27:50
Speaker 1: should have their own identity also. But they do have
27:52
Speaker 1: their own identity. It's just something that joins them, bonds
27:54
Speaker 1: them together. But our son is going to have another
27:57
Speaker 1: cousin who doesn't have the same middle name. Amy, you've
28:01
Speaker 1: now been a mum for a month. Is it what
28:03
Speaker 1: you expected it to be? Well, I don't think anything
28:05
Speaker 1: can prepare you for motherhood. Everyone says that. I don't
28:08
Speaker 1: even really know what I thought it was going to
28:10
Speaker 1: be like, but I've thoroughly enjoyed it. We were saying
28:12
Speaker 1: before how I didn't cry when Harry was born, like
28:16
Speaker 1: when I saw him for the first time and I
28:17
Speaker 1: expected I would. The other night I was crying, looking
28:21
Speaker 1: at him, tears of being so grateful. And I was
28:25
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast and someone was talking about a
28:27
Speaker 1: mindset thing and how sometimes you should think oh, you know,
28:31
Speaker 1: what if I was 80 and then I came back
28:34
Speaker 1: as my younger self and what the perspective. And I
28:37
Speaker 1: was looking at his little eyes and I was like, well,
28:40
Speaker 1: he's like my little baby now, but later he's going
28:43
Speaker 1: to be this grown man. You've turned into a softie, Amy.
28:46
Speaker 1: It's so sweet to see because I think I shared
28:48
Speaker 1: on the podcast that your first week in, you messaged saying, look,
28:51
Speaker 1: obviously it's been tough giving birth, but it's been such
28:54
Speaker 1: a magical week that Dale and I have spent together
28:56
Speaker 1: and we just keep looking at him just in awe
28:59
Speaker 1: of how beautiful and special he is. We were debating
29:01
Speaker 1: on the podcast and a few people brought it up
29:04
Speaker 1: in our group about tiredness and being tired as a
29:07
Speaker 1: new mom. And I think we were also talking about
29:09
Speaker 1: tiredness during pregnancy. A lot of people on TikTok have
29:12
Speaker 1: said they're very different levels of tiredness. And I've got
29:14
Speaker 1: to agree. When you're tired in the first few weeks
29:17
Speaker 1: as a new parent, it's different because you're excited and
29:20
Speaker 1: you're running on adrenaline. So I would look forward to
29:23
Speaker 1: feeding Harry. Oh, my God, like look at him. It's
29:25
Speaker 1: so exciting. Last night I think it was the adrenaline was,
29:29
Speaker 1: you know, it's rubbing off. Well, because I suppose because
29:32
Speaker 1: you and Dale have been really good. You've had so
29:34
Speaker 1: many people over. I feel like you've had constant visitors
29:36
Speaker 1: through the door. You've tried to take him out as well.
29:40
Speaker 1: So you've gone on walks, you've taken him to outdoor
29:42
Speaker 1: cafes and that sort of thing. So you've tried to
29:45
Speaker 1: really enjoy your maternity leave together. Well, I think that
29:48
Speaker 1: was important as well for our mental health because you
29:50
Speaker 1: hear a lot of people getting down because, you know,
29:52
Speaker 1: it's this new life. Yeah, stuck inside. And so, I mean,
29:56
Speaker 1: we've been really lucky. The weather has been amazing here
29:58
Speaker 1: in Adelaide. But I think it was day two or
30:00
Speaker 1: three when we were home from the hospital, we set
30:02
Speaker 1: ourselves a challenge that we were going to go out
30:04
Speaker 1: to a cafe with him. And it was great. Like
30:06
Speaker 1: we sat outside away from people, but it was just
30:08
Speaker 1: good to get out there and we've been enjoying all
30:11
Speaker 1: of our walks. So I've thoroughly been enjoying motherhood. I
30:14
Speaker 1: am a little bit panicked because Dale is going back
30:16
Speaker 1: to work next week and just thinking how it's all
30:19
Speaker 1: going to work. How have you been finding the feeding
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Speaker 1: side of things? Because I think when you're pregnant, no
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Speaker 1: one actually prepares you for the fact that most of
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Speaker 1: your time is spent just feeding the baby? Because of you,
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Speaker 1: I was aware that the feeding window starts from when
30:32
Speaker 1: you first start feeding the baby. It's meant to be
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Speaker 1: about three and a half hours to four hours between
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Speaker 1: each feed. Which is so unfair because you're like, hang on,
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Speaker 1: it should end once the baby's fed. Yeah, because last
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Speaker 1: night it took me about an hour and 40 minutes
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Speaker 1: to feed Harry. And then, you know, you fall asleep
30:46
Speaker 1: and he's wanting to be fed again. Look, it's definitely
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Speaker 1: a full-time job feeding a baby. I can see that.
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Speaker 1: So I'm doing a mixed feed of I've been expressing
30:55
Speaker 1: and then I've also been doing formula feeding. I've been
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Speaker 1: trying to breastfeed where I can, but Harry hasn't had
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Speaker 1: the best latch. And going into motherhood, I saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of women talking about how they were expressing and
31:06
Speaker 1: what they liked about it was the fact they could
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Speaker 1: see how much milk they were actually making. So I've
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Speaker 1: been opting to do that because I've found that to
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Speaker 1: be a lot easier for me. It seems to work
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Speaker 1: with our lifestyle. Because we had a couple of friends
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Speaker 1: who their babies were struggling to put on weight and
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Speaker 1: that was actually recommended to them that they pump so
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Speaker 1: they can make sure that they know that the baby's
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Speaker 1: getting the right amount. I think you had that in
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Speaker 1: your head where you're like, look, at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, my priority is making sure that he's putting
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Speaker 1: on enough weight And it's a healthy weight range as
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Speaker 1: soon as we can. It's also great because that means
31:37
Speaker 1: that you don't have to do all the feeds. You
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Speaker 1: can be pumping, you can have milk ready to go.
31:40
Speaker 1: You can also do your formula top-ups and Dale can
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Speaker 1: do it. Have you guys been taking interns during the
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Speaker 1: night feeds? Because that's a game changer. Yeah, we've been
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Speaker 1: doing shifts. So I seem to be getting around the
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Speaker 1: 4am feed, Dale does the 1am. So what time are
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Speaker 1: you going to bed then? I mean, it depends. Sometimes
31:57
Speaker 1: it will be nine o'clock and we're like, right, let's
31:58
Speaker 1: go to bed for a few hours and then we're
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Speaker 1: going to wake up and we'll do like the 11
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Speaker 1: o'clock feed together. But I've been watching so many YouTube
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Speaker 1: videos because I've decided when it's my time to feed him,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to put on a YouTube, I'll get a
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Speaker 1: little drink. I might get a little bit of a snack.
32:13
Speaker 1: I like that. One thing, Amy, that you have inspired
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Speaker 1: me to do through this process is to make sure
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Speaker 1: you're taking lots of photos and also filming a lot
32:20
Speaker 1: of content. And you have recently bought the tiniest camera
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen, which is so funny because outside of
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Speaker 1: the podcast, you work as a videographer for our business,
32:29
Speaker 1: Hula Media, and you have literally every professional camera that
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Speaker 1: you could think of, but you have bought this small
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Speaker 1: handheld one. It is tiny just so that you can
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Speaker 1: take it around and capture those moments that where you
32:40
Speaker 1: probably can't be bothered to pull out a big camera. Yeah.
32:42
Speaker 1: So I've got lots of heavy cameras and I, as
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Speaker 1: you said, I've been trying to take a lot of
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Speaker 1: nice photos, but I was actually inspired by Georgia Richards.
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Speaker 1: She got this new vlogging camera and I was like, fuck,
32:51
Speaker 1: that looks fantastic. So I went and bought it with
32:54
Speaker 1: a late night Amazon purchase. It arrived two days later.
32:57
Speaker 1: And it's because growing up, our mom and dad made
32:59
Speaker 1: the decision to buy a video camera before we were born.
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Speaker 1: And they said it was the best thing they ever
33:03
Speaker 1: did because you've got these beautiful home videos. And I
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Speaker 1: just wanted it to be able to pull it out
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Speaker 1: and take those, you know, like the really long videos
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Speaker 1: where everyone's talking in the background. I remember watching our
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Speaker 1: home videos and it'd be the best to hear what
33:18
Speaker 1: everyone was discussing. Even if it was like, what was...
33:21
Speaker 1: on sale at Coles at the time. I remember there
33:25
Speaker 1: was a video of us on the swings and mum
33:27
Speaker 1: was talking about going in and waking us up. And
33:30
Speaker 1: in this video, she said, oh, and Amy's got this
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Speaker 1: Freddo frog smile. And we were still laughing so much. Well,
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Speaker 1: you've made me want to go out and get one
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Speaker 1: because I think it'd be really funny and really easy
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Speaker 1: to capture. the whole birth experience as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's,
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Speaker 1: I would highly recommend it. I mean, you don't even
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Speaker 1: have to spend that much money on a camera. So
33:47
Speaker 1: if I know that your husband is a videographer, but
33:50
Speaker 1: talking about how much he's going to faint, I don't
33:51
Speaker 1: think he's going to be down the goal end. Well,
33:53
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want it down the goal end, but
33:55
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll probably be sitting around waiting. It'd
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Speaker 1: be funny to get some behind the scenes. Brandon's fainting
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Speaker 1: incident and his powerade and so forth. I think we'll
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Speaker 1: wait with bated breaths for both of your vlogs that
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Speaker 1: are coming. I'm definitely not vlogging it. This would be
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Speaker 1: a very personal private video. Well, Amy, it was so
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Speaker 1: nice to have you back. Thank you for joining us. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'll be back soon. I feel like it's not long
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Speaker 1: now until Sophie gives birth. So I will be back
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Speaker 1: on the podcast. I'm actually really excited for that. Well,
34:21
Speaker 1: we're excited to have you back. We'll just be you
34:24
Speaker 1: and me, Kate. Wait for a little while. We'll change
34:27
Speaker 1: the scenery for you. Kate was saying that she's like,
34:29
Speaker 1: can't you join us as well if you join remotely? No,
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Speaker 1: you were whinging that you wanted to be a part
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Speaker 1: of it. I said, well, you won't. You will not
34:35
Speaker 1: have time, Sophie. I can assure you'll be enjoying your
34:38
Speaker 1: newborn bubble. Well, thanks for joining us for another episode
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