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Episode 74: A Conversation About Art, Creativity, and Star Wars with Artist Jennie Marie Studio · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello, there. It's time for most things
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Kenobi. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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episode of most things Kenobi. A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi
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and all things Star Wars. I'm your host Lauren and today,
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we have something a little different for you.
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Last week, Lee Ann was traveling and didn't have time to record
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with me. So I dug into our archives and
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dusted off an interview. I did with Jenny Marie Studio.
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That I've recorded about a year ago Jenny's made a name for
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herself hand-painting, glass, candle votives, most of them
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feature Star Wars scenes but she's also been known to do
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Marvel DC. Lord of the Rings.
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If you follow me on Instagram, you'll have seen my unboxing
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video of the custom commissions. You painted for me, depicting
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the dark and brutal relationship between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth
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Maul, it is truly a masterpiece. I'm so grateful to own something
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that is so meaningful and that was created by a dear friend of
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mine in this interview. We discuss everything from
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Jenny's formal art training in Florence to how the American
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school system didn't work for our creative brains to how her
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Teenage Love for Luke Skywalker. Actually led to her current
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business venture painting custom votives.
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We had a fabulous time, recording this and ended up
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chatting for almost three hours. This is the shortened version.
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But if you'd like to listen to the full conversation, please,
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consider joining our patreon where we post complete
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interviews, episode extras, and so much more before we begin.
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Let me apologize in advance for some of the lousy audio on this
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episode, it was one of the first interviews I conducted and I was
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still learning a lot about podcasting even so I hope you
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enjoy this conversation with one of most things, Kenobi's
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favorite artists, Jenny Marie Studio.
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You have this beautiful art style that I really really love
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and appreciate its kind of like a baroque type art and I just
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wanted to ask you. When did you realize you had a
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passion for art because you're so talented.
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When did that get started for you?
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Thank you. Yeah, there wasn't really a
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defining like moment. I have been surrounded by Art
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since I was born. Basically my grandparents were
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artists Mike. Mom and Grandpa were both
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sculptors and so we they actually my dad grew up in
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Laguna Beach California which is I almost hate telling people I
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grew up there now because ever since the TV shows and
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everything it's kind of painted Laguna's this like hoity-toity,
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you know, just Rich spoiled kids but it was an artist Colony like
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in the 60s and 70s. It was like a hippie art colony
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and my grandparents were Starving Artists who, you know,
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drove their family from it. Illinois bought a house there,
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like I said before, it was what it is now.
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So, like my dad went to the same high school that I went to and
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then she moved back to Laguna. I grew up there mostly and so
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just because of my grandparents and all my aunts and uncles,
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they say everyone on my dad's side is Artistic, I just was
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surrounded by art supplies and that was, you know, always
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really encouraged in me. I would say that like, I kind of
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had a love-hate relationship. I found out pretty early on
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that. I was it feels so weird saying
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this because I'm so used to being self-deprecating.
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My life, but I am somewhat and I was silent naturally good at it.
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Like I haven't I had an eye for it.
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Like I could look at something and like replicator it see where
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the shadow was, where the light hit where the and I could to a
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certain extent, just do that. So I think, you know, when my
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parents saw that and because it came from an artist family,
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everyone just was like which is really fortunate and that that
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was, you know, because you know, creativity and you know, art is
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not always encouraged or cultivated.
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Yeah. And everyone.
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And I know that I was really lucky and privileged to have all
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that access to our and for it to be so encouraged in me.
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So, yeah. Like, I just kind of fell into
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it, but I will say, I loved, so I loved art.
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I just I'm a very visual person but I really struggled with the
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discipline of it. I sometimes hated art classes
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because I couldn't sit still for, you know, three hour.
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I think that's actually a really common with creative people.
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That when you try to constrain them into a format or a
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timetable or put deadlines on them, it just stopped being able
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to be creative. I think that's really common
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with even some of the like, famous painting Masters in
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history. Yeah, I kind of became kind of
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almost like stubborn about it to like, because it just felt like,
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I'd kind of just didn't know what else to do.
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And I don't know because it was kind of wasn't pushed on me by
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any means, but I don't know at a certain point.
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I remember kind of going away from that, like, maybe this
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isn't what I like just because I'm good at something and it's
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true. Just because you're good at
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something. Doesn't mean it's what you want
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to do. And sure, I don't think I
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necessarily I don't even I don't even remember that.
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I think there are lots of periods, especially Junior,
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High, and high school. That I didn't even really enjoy
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it that much. I didn't really want to take
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classes but I, you know I loved looking at art.
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I love colors that I just yeah, I couldn't sit still I just
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didn't want. I just wanted to be good at
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something right away and if I couldn't paint something
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perfectly I didn't want to take the time to And all the hard and
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practice, which is no matter how talented you are, the drive, the
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dedication, the consistency, and practice is super important.
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And that was something I really struggled with, which is why I
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think it took me so long. So I would say, to dance a very
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long way of answering your question.
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I would almost say this year, I realized what a passion I have
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for art. I mean that, oh, wait, maybe I
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do, maybe everyone was right and it took, you know, 25 30 Here's
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but shoot, I guess I am an artist, I guess this is what I
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was supposed to do so fun. I so many people.
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I know feel like they're not allowed to they don't give
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themselves permission to call themselves, The Creative that
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they are so they're not a writer.
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They're not an artist or not a painter.
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Unless like you're somehow getting paid even if you do it
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every single day of your life and it's a deep passion, unless
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somebody else gives you permission, you can't be that
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thing. That is So true.
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That's so true. And I actually thought about
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that because when you yeah well I like I almost ate.
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It's still hard for me to call myself an artist.
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It feels wrong, it feels pretentious.
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It feels like I'm not. Yeah, like I'm not supposed to
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call it like that's assuming or like that.
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I'm like good. So I never used to call like I'd
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or I'd sort of say like oh hon. Yeah I'm artistic eye diamond on
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the weekends at night. Yeah, but I'm always very like,
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like weird about it. And yeah, I feel the same way
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about writing, even though I wrote every day of my life since
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I was 4 and my brain just functions that way where it's
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constantly writing a story, it's like, I could not call myself a
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writer, it was like, at what point am I allowed to?
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Like, if I get published, am I allowed to call myself for my
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eyeliner pen to paper before you are like another thing that
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describes what you're literally doing.
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Exactly, exactly. It's funny that way.
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It is it sounds there's something like feels
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pretentious, like I'm a writer. I'm an artist.
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It should it's just a description of something you
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did. Yeah.
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Well, hopefully someday I can be paid for.
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Yeah. But I do feel like a bit of an
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asshole. If I would say like, I'm a
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writer it's like people who say that you're just like off God.
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You're so sure. But it's true like, but it's
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hard to eat. Hey does.
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It's hard to figure out a way to get paid as an artist or writer.
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It's hard to Yeah, yeah, yeah. To turn creativity into a
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lucrative thing without cheapening.
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It somehow or like undermining your own love of the thing.
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You know. It's very hard to find that line
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to walk. I think.
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Yeah. Or I mean, one of the things
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that I actually found really a little bit discouraging and kind
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of dissolution. So I've actually like thin
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involved in a lot of different areas of the art World.
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By 19, I went to art school. I my first job was at an art
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gallery. Sorry, I moved to New York.
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I worked for a global Art website company that did like
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appraisals and auction records. And it was a gallery database
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and all this stuff. And I was very immersed in this
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world, you know? And one of the things that was
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it's very elitist. It's it's a very gate kept
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industry. I mean, I even me, like we
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didn't, we didn't even like grow up super wealthy or anything,
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you know. My dad was a pastor, my mom was
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a nurse and then on disability but But because my dad was
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called to the church and looking to beach.
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Like and, you know, because his family had grown up there like
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that's why we got to live there. And so I think, you know, I
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definitely benefited from proximity to that access meant.
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When I, when I got to New York, I mean, I noticed even a lot of
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people that I worked with at the company, like they a lot of
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people come from family money, it can be a really tough.
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And it's one of the things though that I feel like is
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Shifting down. One of the ways that I'm
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grateful for the internet, I think the internet is
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democratizing it a bit. There's so Any more ways you
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don't have to depend on the galleries on the writers, the
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critics. Like I I never thought I could
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be an artist like I never really, you know, when I was
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younger, I loved drawing, I love painting but I never saw way to
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get paid for, you know, like reached that like perfect, I
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never saw myself being a professional artist because it's
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like, how do you even do that and make money and like get
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connected and, unless you're Bob, Ross on us, like, 32 how do
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you even it's Not like other mediums where with music or
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writing or photography, even the distribution for our didn't
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exist. Until like, it's much easier.
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Now with you can sell prints online and you can even tell
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Originals online in a way that you couldn't you didn't have
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access to that. Unless like you said, you use a
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gallery where you can grow your own audience through Instagram.
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Now, I mean, that's, that's huge.
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It's been really inspiring again, just for all the
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shittiness horribleness. Comes out of the internet.
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There's the definitely some positives and I think greater
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wider access to our and giving more people a chance to actually
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get a foot in here and get their artwork being is huge.
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So that's a positive sure. Especially since you can kind of
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interact immediately with people who and like I do feel like the
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algorithms are they can be very detrimental.
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Sometimes keeping you very pinned into a specific kind of
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demographic, but it also allows people with he similar interests
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to find you. I don't know.
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I just feel like it draws like-minded people and it's
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probably similar with your art. The kind of art you do in the
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interest that you have drawers, like-minded people to you.
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And yeah, the internet can be a total Cesspool, but sometimes
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it's really great. We have cultivated, I mean, I
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say like week, I see you. I feel like we have a lot of the
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same. You just start seeing so many,
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like, if I were to say, the Nerf herder Co, like, you know, who
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that is like, you know, our say Star Wars.
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Like silver. It's like, I feel like we're all
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kind of getting to know each other and it's really, I feel
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like, like attracts like for the most part, um, and yeah, it's so
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it's so wonderful. And yeah, that's so great for
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for artists because you had to be able to just Reach people,
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who are passionate about the things that you're passionate
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about fainting or doing, or, you know, Creator.
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You said, you went to art school.
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Then, did you go to like University or like an art
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specific school? Like, what kind of school did
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you go to? Yeah, I know.
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I just, I went to Cal State. Long Beach.
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It's so funny. Like when I graduated high
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school how do people know what they want to do out of high
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school? I have no idea.
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I'm Jody six and I still don't know what I'm doing with my
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life. I think like really I was
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expected when I was 19 to like pick a major and figure out what
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I wanted to but I kind of your a baby child.
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You don't know. What do you think I'm doing this
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the last year but yeah, basically Only applied to State
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schools. I also freaking lucked out
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though, because, okay, I'm a millennial, some very aware of
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the student loan issue, but what I went to school like this,
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California state had a great system and it was really, it was
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relatively affordable. It was like nine hundred dollars
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a semester or something. So I just worked part-time.
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Yeah, I was able to like I didn't have to take out a ton
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alone very quickly. Started shifting like this was
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like 2001-2002 on Aging. I saw a foot.
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Yes, I am. I'm basically like I don't know
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what I want to do. I don't want to fill out any
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essays. I want to say that I really
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didn't want to spend about, I don't want to go into debt for
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forty thousand dollars. I just had no idea and I was so
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indecisive. So I chose Cal State, Long
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Beach, loved it, loved the school.
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I was Undeclared. But then I think I started and
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then I chose studio. Art is a major.
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So I was, I did I was actually like, studio art drawing
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painting like creating art was my major.
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I think for the first, oh, I was.
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Undeclared. The first year that, I true that
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I went to Studio Art, which I am really glad even though I did
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the same thing happen to me that, you know, is always
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happened where I just got burnt out on the classes, and I didn't
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learn in college. I mean, you have literally, like
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six, our life drawing classes, where you're looking at a nude
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model drawing this, into it for six hours, it was drove me,
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crazy. Like that's a lot.
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I can't focus on anything for longer than an hour and a half
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before I answer, like rest my brain.
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Yeah, I'm Just I was always one of those people, like I'd rather
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go to class five times a week for a 45-minute class.
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Then go twice a week for the longer ones but some of the art
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classes that he just you had to do a longer one because you need
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to do a longer study. So but I'm glad.
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I am glad I did it because some of the things that I learned in
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college are things that are helping me right now with our
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time, currently doing a lot of, I still remember, it's the
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littlest thing and I don't know why does just sticks out because
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it just blew my mind and changed my painting.
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It was just such a little thing. But I remember my painting
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class, I was doing a still life and you know, you learn color
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theory and our clients like 101, which colors, go together,
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contrast, all that. And I was doing some purple
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grapes and my teacher came over to me and was like, here you go.
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I'm going to show you a super easy and I was doing like the
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Highlight on the grapes and I would think just you just use
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white, right? White highlight and he adds.
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He's like so purple's complementary values yellow so
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he put the Teeny tiniest. Smidge of yellow, in that white
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and mixed it up. Like you couldn't even tell But
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it was yellow. And then when you look at it, he
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brushes it on the grape, and it was like that grape jumped off
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the canvas, like the difference with that little bit of yellow
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and that blew my mind and it's again something I still use
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today. So I'm really glad that I got
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the education. I did.
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There are certain things that I wish I had paid more attention
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to and that I would like to learn what like things like
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perspective. A lot of the technical like I
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have to cheat a little bit and like, hides, like I'm not Good
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at drawing hands or something like this.
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A lot of things that I, you can tell where I kind of skipped
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assignments. And just like, you know, when I,
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maybe you can tell, but I can't tell because you find you find
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ways to, you know, get around things.
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And I'm glad I did it. But then I, then I switched to
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art history because I just, like, I said, I got a little
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burnt out on those long studio art classes and I just, I fell
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in love with art history and I fell in love with with the
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Italian Renaissance. I also got an amazing
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opportunity to again, damn it. I almost like, I almost don't
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want to say this on a podcast because I feel like people are
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going to Riot because college is so screwed up right now, and
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it's so expensive. But because my tuition was so
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affordable, you know? And I said I was able to work
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part-time. I did a study abroad program in
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Florence and they had a study abroad, Italy program where most
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of the time when you do one of those there, Super expensive
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because you're paying like Italian tuition and all this.
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We had a program Cal State had a program where we paid the exact
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same tuition. I did at Long Beach as I did in
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Italy. So only thing I took out loans
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for I'm take out about, you know fifteen thousand dollars in
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loans for like pausing just living for a year but I was able
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to do that and I doubt anything like that existing.
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It's probably like 40 thousand dollars which side which is like
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I'm sorry I don't want even a little like it's like that
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awesome thing that I got to do. It's probably not possible
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anymore. Well, I was so glad and it was
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there that I, you know, even when I went there, I was, I was
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supposed to do Studio Art but something clicked.
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When I got to get in, like, walk around Florence and actually be
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in the church where Michelangelo's, you know, David
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is and be, you know, and see the things in person and I just most
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of my life like I've, I've always felt really stupid, like,
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I'm really bad at math. My I've ATD my memory sucks, I'm
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all over the place but when it came to Art, I felt smart.
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Like I could read these paintings like people can read a
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book or an equation and I like I'll never forget one of my most
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challenging teachers like doing a field trip with her and she
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would ask the class, I'm like, oh what do you see in this pair?
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What's the and I looked at it and I was the only one that
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figured out the subject matter. And I was like, oh, that's the
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Good Samaritan. Because you see here that did a
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Johnny see the light coming from here and I didn't she was very
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like yes, like and then I point out something she didn't notice
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first the kid who's always like struggled with grades and is
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always felt stupid. Stupid.
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Like, I had to take, I had to drop out of Cal State, Long
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Beach and go to a community college for a year because I
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kept failing, my math classes, I kept having to get tutors and I
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failed them three times in a row.
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So to have this moment where the teacher was like, you're smart
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and I just got this, it changed my life like that.
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That was a turning point and I got A's and B's in my art
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classes because that's amazing. I loved it.
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So, what kind of art is points out, it really points out that
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how our American education system is structured the Beryl
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Arts, education of where you have to learn, everything makes
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you feel like a moron sometimes. I'm the same way.
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I, it's funny because I love writing, I did fairly badly and
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all of my English classes, may be excellent at all my math.
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Now, like while I'm learning math, I'm really good at it.
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And then two days later when you asked me the question, it's like
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if it's not right in front of me, while I'm learning it, I
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don't remember, I don't remember but language, especially writing
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because I'm a little bit dyslexic, especially when I'm
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like seeking my brain doesn't go at the same speed as my mouth
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sometimes. I feel that I do very exhausting
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but like writing is where I can take time and clarify, look what
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I'm trying to say. So it's really funny that in
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school. I felt like a moron when it came
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to like English, and any kind of verbal or literary kind of
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background. And I got really good grades in
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science and math and I'm terrible at those in real life.
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Yeah, I hope so. I hope eventually I agree.
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I don't know. I haven't been in school a long
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time, but that it should be looked at differently because
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everyone's different, like standardized testing.
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I hated like so much pressure, like a times test, like all I
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can think about that, my a.d.d., hyper focus goes into that
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clock, and all I can think about is the clock.
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And, and yeah, and even with art classes to, I think the key to
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me is again, being able to paint the things that I'm passionate
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about. So it's hard because there's
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only, so, I don't want to be still-lifes Millions delays.
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I know you need to pray again you there is a learning.
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There's something to be said for like you've learned that you
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know, you got to be dedicated but I think back to to My Pan, I
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took piano in high school and Hannah was a very similar thing
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where I just really struck, didn't want to practice.
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I just wanted to sit down and play something.
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But I had a teacher that just gave up and stopped making me
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try and learn classical. She's like, you choose whatever
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you want and I will teach you. And soon as that happened, I
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learned the theme to Titanic. Today, my heart will go on.
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The only thing, I can still play the piano.
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I learned the Star Wars theme, The Simpsons theme, the
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Backstreet Boys, because I was 17 and all the sudden, I could
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memorize these piano piece and play them because it was
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something I liked. And I don't think that that's
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looked at enough in school. So, I would just, I wonder if he
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even earlier on if a class or something and maybe but I don't
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know. Let me somehow adapt.
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Like instead of a still life, let me draw plate of.
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Like yeah, I don't know is or something from Star Wars?
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Like I probably Bleah would have that.
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Holds a lot of I think that's a really valid point.
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I was, it's funny, you're staying.
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This is I was just having this thought the other day.
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I felt really stupid until I got to sixth grade and I had a
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different kind of teacher. It was the first time she didn't
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listen to what other teachers had said about me or anything
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like that. She just let me be me.
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It was like the first time my brain was like not under that
21:18
constant pressure of like conform conform to the worst
21:22
school must be. It was like the first time I
21:24
felt. Oh, I can just learn and it's
21:26
like, it just. Yeah, I really do think that the
21:29
structure of regular quote-unquote, regular education
21:33
is not for every brain. It definitely didn't work for my
21:38
brain. I couldn't focus the amount of
21:40
time that was required and I was such a Daydreamer that I really
21:46
struggled to find any subject that interesting depending on
21:50
what it was, we were talking about.
21:52
And so like When I found the guy's a college, it was the
21:55
first time where professors don't care if you're there or
21:58
not. It's like it's up to you pick
22:01
the class you want to take. Yeah and if you don't come, I
22:04
don't care. You're failing on your own, you
22:07
know. Yeah.
22:08
It's like when I first started to thrive, really, and I loved
22:11
art history, it was one of my like, my nurse that I took and
22:14
it was the first time where it was like mixing history with
22:17
visual. Yeah, the visual person that was
22:21
so transformative for me. Like how old are you?
22:24
You're much older that that point, you know you're like
22:27
almost in your 20s and it's like it took that long for me to
22:30
really find and feel like, oh I can, I can do this.
22:33
I'm fine. Like my brains, okay, the way it
22:36
is. It's yeah, primary school.
22:39
I mean High School, all of that it is, it's imagine.
22:42
It's kind of just pumping you out to the, you know, like I
22:45
drove and it's every yeah, everything's the same.
22:48
It doesn't really. I mean, even even growing up
22:50
again, like, Laguna Beach is very Mystic community.
22:55
And I had that from my family and stuff, but I was convinced,
22:58
I was really stupid because I just, I'm not good at a lot of
23:02
the bench, more whatever? I couldn't reach the benchmarks
23:05
that. Sure.
23:06
Yeah. Like I struggled a lot, like I
23:08
was actually diagnosed with ADD at like 13, my mom tried putting
23:11
me on Ritalin but I didn't like that and I didn't like being
23:15
singled out as having a learning disability and being called out
23:18
in the middle of class every day to go take medication.
23:21
So I rejected that and Do it on my own.
23:24
It's just that's why it is just so freeing now to be able to
23:28
like we're just living the way. We won't be able to explore all
23:31
these different creative. Passions.
23:33
Even just having this conversation, like it kind of
23:35
makes me. It reminds me that I really this
23:38
is something I want to do try and help kids or like, cultivate
23:41
the art, I don't know in terms of kids right now who you know,
23:46
or may be feeling this way. If they still are feeling not
23:49
feeling stupid or feeling not appreciated, you know, just
23:52
because we could do still live in.
23:53
The society that kind of rewards, one type of
23:55
intelligence, and that's the intelligence that serves
23:58
capitalism in serves. Yes, it's when you are saying
24:01
that like school is super homogenized, it was making me
24:04
think. I was like, well, so is the
24:05
workforce. And it's just basically training
24:07
you to get out of one desk and go to another desk and Fuller.
24:12
Oh my gosh and like thinking about this now, like, look what
24:15
happened to me, I was this quirky weird creative kid that
24:19
freaking loved space Wizards and aliens.
24:23
And you know drawing and art. I was such a weird kid.
24:27
I was so creative though. Like I mean I was I would make,
24:30
you know, my I would make elaborate animal hospitals for
24:33
my stuffed animals in my room. I drive me all kinds of things,
24:36
but what did I do when I graduated college?
24:38
I ended up in corporate I ended up at and then I ended up in
24:42
advertising sales of all the things I worked for artnet which
24:45
was our website. That's how I ended up because
24:48
art got me in and it was my passion that got me in there,
24:51
but it was sales, I wasn't in An art job there.
24:54
I was having meetings with Brands like Mercedes-Benz and
24:57
Chanel and trying to get them to spend advertising dollars on our
24:59
art website. Because people can buy art can
25:01
buy Chanel because like I said and Tennis the crossover
25:05
demographics different and then I ended up at Vanity, Fair
25:09
magazine, also in like advertising sales marketing.
25:12
And I burnt out my soul, I was having panic attacks.
25:17
I was in New York for six years and I broke down.
25:21
I loved New York, but I do think like A lot of that was from
25:24
denying so many parts of myself to conform and to fit in with
25:29
what I thought. This is the path and I gotta
25:31
say, like, it's been hard, that my identity is, I'm an artist
25:35
kind of unemployed ever. Call these part-time jobs now
25:37
and stuff. I loved telling people I work at
25:40
Vanity Fair it really because I felt like I was this single
25:43
powered high-powered businesswoman living in New
25:46
York. Like I had that title again that
25:48
in our society is one of those acceptable benchmarks, but I was
25:51
starving my creative side. Side.
25:53
So yeah, it's funny cuz I'm in marketing right now.
25:57
I'm finally. But it's true.
25:59
Like no, no, it's you're not sucking industry called
26:02
marketing. Is it is I always joke.
26:05
It's where creative people go to die.
26:07
Yeah. Because it's where you feel like
26:11
you can be a little bit creative and you can kind of like still
26:14
do graphic design and and eventually just sucks your soul
26:17
right out of you. So, I mean, I work for myself
26:19
now because again, I did the same thing, I went to film
26:22
School. I did photography and journalism
26:25
and art history and fill. And then I got out of school
26:28
already things. All those words make me for
26:30
photography art history. Right?
26:31
I God, I got to go to class every day and watch movies and
26:36
analyze them and write scripts and couldn't get to work because
26:41
I graduated during the recession.
26:42
So I ended up working at a bookstore which was a great and
26:46
then I entered corporate work after that.
26:48
And after I don't know, I can't even tell you how long it wasn't
26:51
very long. I basically I had a breakdown
26:54
and was like, I have to go out on my own and find a way to make
26:59
the creative part of my brain, more more of what I do.
27:02
And I'm still like fighting to get there.
27:04
That's why I like running this blog and doing the podcast.
27:07
That's how I'm making room in my life for that, but it's so hard.
27:11
And again, it was exactly the same thing I got promoted.
27:14
I was the regional digital marketing specialist for all of
27:18
Illinois. Michigan, Indiana.
27:21
And it was just like, I'm exhausted.
27:23
I'm Tired. But like on paper, you're like,
27:26
you're doing all the things and it looks.
27:29
Yeah. You are the like that's the the
27:31
success story. It sucks your solo.
27:36
Yeah. And like, there's got to be a
27:38
benefit. This is a good transition.
27:41
Then like, how did you start to make Star Wars part of your
27:46
regular art cycle? Oh my gosh.
27:50
I mention her on every podcast. She's like, my Patron.
27:53
Saint I got the force booty Vanessa on Instagram.
27:58
I think a lot of people follow her too.
28:00
She was one of the first people. She she bought one of my I did.
28:04
I have all the evolved once so funny.
28:08
The rise of Skywalker piece that I did which was faded Star Wars
28:13
movies but the motive that got me where that's actually really
28:17
shocking. Now that I think about it,
28:19
that's what that's what got me in with the Star Wars.
28:21
People was a rise of sky. Walker.
28:23
Peace again, try and condenses much, but I started making
28:26
candle glass kind of in this about three years ago when I was
28:32
in Seattle. It was, they looked very
28:34
different than they did. Now, they were more of us.
28:36
I had kind of an art history theme.
28:38
I was doing more collage. Yeah, I did one Star Wars won
28:41
during covid during quarantine. You know.
28:43
I was laid off for my event planning job.
28:45
Moved back home. So I was living back home with
28:47
my parents again, I was unemployed, it was covid and I
28:51
did a, I decided to just do Star Wars one for me, basically,
28:55
because I didn't think I could sell that.
28:57
Like, I was trying to Kansas, like I, when I started out, I
29:02
was trying to think, how can I make my brand look, like, Paris
29:06
and flowers and our, I don't know, I was just, I guess the
29:10
point I'm trying to, guys, I was trying to again, do what?
29:12
I thought looked cool chic, whatever I liked them and I
29:17
loved, I loved, you know what I was doing, but I didn't think
29:21
that I could sell a Star Wars one.
29:22
At that point. Didn't have any of this
29:24
connection. I didn't, I was, I was one of
29:26
the only few people. I knew that are obsessed with
29:29
Star Wars as I am. You know, not that.
29:31
I think it's this little like, Niche thing that no one else
29:33
knows about. I know everyone, you know, I
29:36
just didn't have that. So, I decided to paint this
29:39
little, Luke Vader one and but I just put it on my Etsy, just for
29:43
the heck of it, and someone bought it.
29:45
So I slowly just kind of did a couple of them.
29:47
Just and again, it was just because I wanted to paint them
29:51
and I loved Star Wars. That's And of what, what kept
29:54
me, kept me going. I'm again with ADD I could
29:58
struggle to focus on a lot of things, but when I'm passionate
30:01
about something, when I'm interested in something
30:03
something grabs me, I'm unstoppable.
30:05
So Star Wars is that thing and then I did that piece with Ray
30:08
and kylo on the, you know, the remains of the Death Star that
30:12
battle and she was just so lovely and she posed.
30:16
She did a whole post about it. She bought two more votives.
30:20
It did this whole post shared it, she had, you know, a quite
30:23
Big following. And all of a sudden, I started
30:25
getting all these little Star Wars people trickling in and I
30:28
was so happy because it when I started getting followers with
30:30
names, like Star Wars drifting and Kenobi this.
30:33
And you know, later that I was like, oh, these are my people
30:36
like oh my gosh, they're out there and it just started
30:43
building and and I just kind of from there.
30:46
It's like when she posted that all of a sudden I actually had
30:48
to scramble because I didn't have any, I had, I didn't have
30:50
any Star Wars ones to sell after that.
30:52
So I actually had to I'd like quickly trade like maybe a
30:54
couple of put up that was just like the biggest joy that I can
30:58
remember in life if any recent life is just the fact that the
31:01
thing that I just really, really wanted to do that.
31:04
I didn't think was what people would want it or would sell is
31:07
what everyone gravitated gravitated towards.
31:10
Yeah, that's really beautiful. I think that's when we are our
31:14
truest self when we finally Embrace that that's when you're
31:18
you become like a magnet and universe and you pull people to
31:22
you and Use an opportunities to that are like really pure.
31:26
This is like my love language. This is like these.
31:29
This is the most amazing thing. Like these are what I would want
31:32
to paint and give myself as a gift.
31:34
So the fact that I'm getting to make these for other people and
31:38
I feel like, I understand that and I like the reactions I've
31:41
gotten from people like the messages, I've gotten about, my
31:44
votives reactions, and they opened them.
31:46
I've never experienced anything like this.
31:48
It's it's so meet you deserve it.
31:51
You really do. And like, I don't know if you
31:53
can C minor back. Here you go and anybody who
31:59
comes into my office, I'm like, you see my Star Wars bonus.
32:06
They are these beautiful little thoughtful.
32:09
Like detailed pieces of art that just like you said, you're
32:13
capturing these moments that people are.
32:15
It's so crazy because I'm one of these people like I bought the
32:18
Luke and Vader but I think was the first one I bought from you
32:21
and that is my favorite bone. And like the fact that anything
32:25
exists with that, that's all it takes for me to be happy for a
32:28
really long time. Yes.
32:31
Well, it's cause it's hard to describe to someone who's not a
32:35
fan or not. As passionate, these characters
32:38
are so loaded for us like a little votive with again, like a
32:41
so Kitano. It's not just a cartoon cat.
32:45
I mean, this is like like even just saying her name, I get this
32:48
wash of I think of the season 7 of Clone Wars like I think of
32:52
her reuniting with Threatened with Rex and Rebels like it.
32:55
And I also just love that like candles.
32:57
The whole idea of a candle is inherently kind of this like
33:00
again like a votive of you know, they're used to honor people to
33:04
honor, you know ones we love. I love your spiritual and and
33:09
there's an energy to it. Yeah.
33:12
Again like devote I don't like you.
33:14
I don't want to catch like a religion but like a devotional
33:16
and again there's there's meaning behind it and I keep I'm
33:19
I'm still trying to figure out like the best way to describe
33:22
them. I have a Time describing when
33:24
you can't stand, but I almost think of them.
33:25
They're kind of most, like, glass dioramas to like they're
33:29
three-dimensional, like there's there's a story in them like
33:33
they're almost three paintings in one.
33:34
Like I'm painting something in the background, I'm just
33:37
painting something in the foreground and then the light is
33:39
its own form of our that's interacting and all these things
33:43
play together. And I'm as I'm creating these,
33:45
like I'm constantly thinking like, how's the light going to
33:47
look? How's the Shadows going to let
33:49
our houses going to peek through houses?
33:51
Going to highlight this figure? Can you does it?
33:53
You look as good and silhouette as it does, you know, in the
33:56
light and yeah, because some of it is fully opaque and some of
33:59
it is thin layers that doesn't let light all the way through.
34:04
And I just love that kind of detail and makes it come alive.
34:09
And this is like, I just kind of taught myself how to make these.
34:12
I can't like I feel weird saying this because it doesn't seem
34:15
possible with how much art is out there.
34:19
I don't know if I can use this word, but I almost feel like I
34:21
invented something like I've never seen.
34:23
Anything, exactly, like them. I've seen similar things that
34:26
I've not seen anything which made me worried at first because
34:29
you know, sometimes if something doesn't exist it's no one needs
34:32
it or wanted that so it's like it.
34:35
I was doing this for a while and not I mean for three years.
34:37
I barely sold anything like nothing but I've kind of been
34:42
just developing this whole little little process and yeah
34:44
they've just they've turned out pretty magical and like now I'm
34:48
like dang like I've been thinking like I want a pink one
34:50
for myself like I want to do one.
34:51
I'm nine it's just that I Wanted I want to display every now and
34:55
then you gotta just treat yourself.
34:59
I'm gonna paint that about Luke rescue.
35:02
Rescuing everyone from Jabba's Sail, Barge.
35:04
I'm Jack. Oh my gosh, I'll do it, I know
35:07
that's fun. You and you and I both love the
35:10
Lucan Jabba's barge it's just still like such a classic
35:13
wonderful moment and shows Luke and like it's my favorite.
35:18
I was actually watching Return of the Jedi last night because I
35:21
thought I want to prepare and watch.
35:23
My favorite Star Wars movie before the Star Wars, before
35:26
this podcast, and I've decided it is my favorite scene.
35:30
I think, in all of Star Wars, I think you'd like, if I was
35:32
stranded on a desert island and I could only have one YouTube
35:35
clip of one Star Wars thing, it would be the Luke rescue scene
35:39
from Javas barge. Well, I do love is the question.
35:43
I want to ask you though, to if I could only bring one start,
35:46
we're seeing in the desert. Yeah.
35:49
Put you on the spot. It has to be, it has to be Be
35:53
the lightsaber battle from Empire Strikes Back.
35:56
Oh the cloud city and if I could only take part of it the part
35:59
where they're out on the like scaffold right before the like
36:02
while Vader, tells him that he is his father that whole, that
36:06
whole sequence liking the lighting in that.
36:10
And the stark contrast, the shadow, their Silhouettes, and
36:14
blue and red smoke. It's gorgeous.
36:17
I love that there. That's a good one posture and,
36:20
like, throughout the whole like that movie is so brilliant with
36:22
the Writing it just, I don't know if you know this about me,
36:25
but cinematography is like, a huge thing for me.
36:27
I love it. And the movie, The Empire
36:30
Strikes Back cinematography is perfect.
36:32
It is purchase Perfection. And it is done.
36:35
So deliberately the way Luke is always like half lit and half
36:39
dark and the way their Silhouettes are posed.
36:42
Always in this like this contrast, it's so deliberate.
36:46
It's like its own language and I am very passionate leader always
36:50
been the dominant where Luke's always kind of on the offense in
36:54
that seem like it reminds me of kind of similar like Ray and
36:56
Kyle has gotta land Force awakens.
36:58
Yes, they are. At no point.
36:59
Was Luke really like in charge of that fight, like he's doing
37:03
struggling and I love. Yeah, that's a good fat.
37:07
Which is what it's so important when it flips in Return of the
37:10
Jedi. Yes, yes, I was just gonna say
37:12
that. Yeah, that's another scene.
37:14
I want to add to my repertoire, I've gotta gotta do the throne
37:19
room, Return of the Jedi. Oh yeah.
37:22
There's so many Like that, the top of the stairs featherston up
37:26
there. Yeah, there's so many great
37:28
poses with face in the background and that cool
37:31
geometric shape of the yes in. Do I want to ask you, why do you
37:36
love the barge scene? It's just, you know, I think it
37:43
feels like when I was watching it last night because I'll say,
37:46
like, mostly times my watch Star Wars movies, nowadays.
37:49
I always just kind of, it's more like I have them on, in the
37:50
background and I'm painting, it's rare that I just did.
37:53
Down and watch it. Yeah, same times, but it's nice
37:56
to do once in awhile because you just, you know, and give it its
37:59
tension and I think this scene, it almost like, it was like a
38:02
precursor to the fight scenes. We love now and like, Marvel
38:06
movies and stuff. There was something so slick
38:10
about him up there with his little, his little salute to our
38:13
to the, the music. Duh, duh, duh, like the like in
38:20
your waiting the tension building up, you know, he's got
38:23
Think plan and I just, I'm getting freaking pumped about it
38:27
when I'm just talking about it. I will never how old however old
38:30
I get him flipping and show jumping off the thing and then
38:35
flying back up off the diving board off the plank.
38:39
Tiny tot just so like catch the light saber and then smash by
38:43
the feds. Yes.
38:45
Like what? Again that's like that's me like
38:48
watching the freaking like, you know, airport scene in Captain
38:52
America, Civil War Warlike and like it's just such a fun cool
38:58
choreographed fight. And also, what I love about
39:01
Return of the Jedi in general and this scene and just all this
39:05
in particular to, I realize is just having Star Wars for me.
39:09
My favorite thing about Star Wars was, it's the, the
39:12
chemistry and the banter between those main characters, Luke Han
39:16
and Leia, and when they reunite in Jabba's Palace, I love.
39:21
Like I love Han be like how Doing same as always like just a
39:26
really funny pain and Luke banter and then throwing Lando
39:32
in there. I mean you got Boba Fett looking
39:34
badass and then not looking so bad ass.
39:36
Is he cutting ceremony sighing, like a little bitch in the whole
39:41
it was. It's just for much at the end.
39:42
Every time I watch that scene, it's just, I can't believe it
39:46
came out in the early 80s. It gets me just as pumped as any
39:49
modern, I'd seen. It's just so fun.
39:53
N. And then also, of course,
39:54
freaking Carrie Fisher. Getting her Vengeance on, and I
39:59
just love her quote about that or something.
40:00
Isn't she? How she has like, some quote or
40:02
something? When she's like someone?
40:03
Because, you know, obviously, everyone's always asking about
40:05
the stupid, you know, the slave bikini.
40:06
And, you know, she says something like, oh, you know, he
40:09
made me wear that, so I killed him or some other.
40:11
I got to murder her. Something like that.
40:13
Like she had some room, not doing it justice, but she had
40:15
some very good like Carrie Fisher's Narco, very carry face.
40:18
Yeah, it was a woman's job. Killing job has a wolf.
40:23
For sure. It's just such a fun scene.
40:27
I love it. I love it.
40:29
I love it too. Because it's the first time you
40:31
see, Luke after Empire, where he gets his hand cut off, and it
40:35
ends very badly. And then, yeah, it comes in and
40:39
just owns the place. Yeah.
40:42
Everyone's ass. And like it goes.
40:44
You think it's not going well, when he gets gets captured but
40:47
it's like all according to plan pretty much.
40:50
Hey, I love just harness like everyone's got to Illusions of
40:53
grandeur. Yeah, he's been.
40:55
He's out of it for a little while, you know, the other thing
40:58
I realized that I loved. So, part of what I was watching
41:01
a lime also, you know, working on my painting and I don't even
41:04
need to look at the captions to speak, like just when he was
41:10
speaking huttese, and I'm literally hearing, you know,
41:13
you're my favorite kind of Bounty Hunter.
41:15
Like, you know, you're you're my favorite kind of scum or
41:18
something. Like now, I like, I just like,
41:21
know the dialogue so well. I just it's my favorite.
41:25
I love everything in Jabba's Palace.
41:27
And you know, the other thing, I've only been comfortable
41:30
enough with myself to admit, I think I used to lie about this
41:33
actually because I was too ashamed.
41:35
I'm gonna put it out here though.
41:37
I love this special edition musical number that they added
41:42
into Jabba's Palace. I know it's controversial and I
41:46
honest I think I like I get why people hate.
41:49
It's so out of place the CGI characters.
41:51
Next to the Grungy puppets looks weird, but it's catchy.
41:56
And every time it comes on tonight and I mean, I mean, I
41:59
mean this is noodles. I think is that her name?
42:06
Jedi Rocks, the name of the song?
42:09
Oh my God, you didn't the name that?
42:11
Yeah. So how did you get into Star
42:14
Wars? Where did that start coming into
42:16
your life? Uh, yeah.
42:18
I don't have a memory of like the first time I ever saw Star
42:22
Wars. It kind of crept up on me
42:25
because I think the first time I ever saw was actually my dad's
42:29
VHS recording of when a New Hope, aired on TV in the 80s.
42:34
So, the first time I saw Star Wars their commercials, like,
42:38
80s commercials in it. Like, I remember actually old
42:41
Levis commercials and stuff so. So I don't think I didn't really
42:46
get into it until I think it's like until the special editions
42:50
came out. I'm almost like technically my
42:52
attack. Nickel original trilogy special
42:55
editions is my time period, I guess?
42:57
Yeah, mine too. Right?
42:58
Because, you know, you got the original true but we, you know,
43:00
I was I wasn't born yet. I didn't see him in theaters,
43:03
but I saw the special editions and I think that point actually,
43:07
like, I actually remember asking my dad?
43:09
Like wait, so, which is the one? Like, like I remembered there
43:11
was like a snow Planet. I knew there was like, teddy
43:14
bears that I didn't know what was in, what movie like they
43:17
were all kind of like, I'd seen it as I was a kid, but I didn't
43:19
really, but I saw it in theaters with these special editions.
43:22
And It was game over like it was in a day.
43:27
I think I walked out of that theater and practically went
43:31
next door and threw on Star Wars shirt and a hat.
43:34
And got all the books and like I was just a fan from that on and
43:36
this was like, so this is like going into junior high.
43:39
So I living like a kid kid. I was like a 12 13 year old.
43:43
But yeah. So I kind of like, I went down
43:44
this Rabbit Hole. I was obsessed.
43:46
I would come home from school. I would just watch Star Wars all
43:48
the time. I read all the Legends books, I
43:51
read the thrawn trilogy three. Zai was obsessed.
43:53
This is all I did. I really good?
43:56
So good. Like I am kind of like bummed
44:00
that I've lost a lot of my knowledge just through the years
44:03
because there was a point when I was 13 or 14.
44:05
I could have told you the name backstory origin of every
44:10
freaking alien in that Cantina scene?
44:12
Like, I knew everything I would read Star Wars trivia books for
44:15
fun. Like, yeah, it was I mean Star
44:18
Wars was it was an escape, I had severe.
44:21
What? I, no, no, no, no.
44:23
A severe social anxiety. Like I did not have a lot of
44:26
friends. I didn't know how to talk to
44:27
people. I was super awkward and Star
44:30
Wars. Just it just gave me an escape
44:32
from all of that. And just, I just kind of lost
44:36
myself in it. I could, I still couldn't wrap
44:38
my head around, the fact that something that made me feel so
44:42
isolated and weird when I was younger, that all is good.
44:45
But like in my 20s and 30s and all of a sudden like people, I
44:49
was super cool that I was that into Star Wars and it's like now
44:52
I've Unable to connect met all of these, all of these friends
44:56
and all these people through it when that shift started to
45:00
happen. But like when nerd culture
45:01
started to become more like acceptable and less isolating
45:06
but maybe that's because there's it's actually not nerdy.
45:08
It's just really cool. It's just it's such a fun world.
45:12
I it Star Wars really for someone again like even to this
45:16
day like obviously I've come out of my shell, I'm more
45:19
extroverted than I used to be but I still struggle.
45:22
You know I'm Very comfortable, like I'm comfortable right now
45:25
in front of people, but I struggle still in, like, I can
45:28
get very introverted and anxious socially anxious.
45:31
And like, I just don't know what to say.
45:33
I don't know how to make small talk, but it's kind of funny
45:35
things I love about Star Wars is for one, you meet another Star
45:39
Wars fan. Like, if I'm wearing a Star Wars
45:40
shirt, it's just this instant connection.
45:42
And like, I'm either at the grocery store standard something
45:44
and then I don't have to sit there.
45:46
How you doing today? How's the weather?
45:48
Oh my gosh. I love R2D2 and hold a sudden.
45:50
We're just having this like and even And if someone's not a
45:54
super fan everyone knows what Star Wars is.
45:57
So it's just it's such a good conversation starter that just
46:00
allows me something. That's easy and fun and more
46:03
interesting to talk about than the weather.
46:05
The usual the yeah in shit. Show that his life nowadays like
46:09
covid anymore. I want a man like, you know,
46:15
whenever I talk to Star Wars fans to it's not even like we're
46:17
talking about just Star Wars it. It's because it isn't there
46:22
archetypes. An apology.
46:23
It is exploring our Humanity, our values, our own stories.
46:27
It's a starting off point to have more interesting
46:30
conversations about morality ethics, right or wrong, good and
46:33
evil. It's just a vessel for them, you
46:38
know, it's not, we're not just talking about going on, but a
46:40
little space cartoons. Like it's, you know, this is my
46:43
Dermatology and there's Artistry to it.
46:46
I wanted to say one last thing because you'd asked me one of
46:50
the questions about like, suggesting to people.
46:52
Who wanted to be an artist? And I wanted answer that one
46:57
because for one it was so weird cause when I first read it I was
47:01
like how did what I like cause I still feel like I need to ask
47:04
other people for advice. It was weird too but then I
47:07
realized like no like I've actually been doing this for a
47:10
while, it's just I'm kind of at a weird turning point in my life
47:12
where I was like like a midlife crisis where II don't know, I
47:15
still feel like a 20 year old like and I'm not though like I
47:18
have experienced don't think anyways and as someone who's
47:22
just Struggled so much again with ADHD.
47:24
Like I went 20 years like I would almost never finish
47:27
anything never finish any artwork.
47:29
I had such a hard time. I always thought like everyone
47:32
just has it together and I can't and I you know and the biggest
47:37
difference like this is the first time in my life.
47:39
I've ever started actually putting out work consistently
47:43
but I just I'd get so hard on myself about that.
47:45
It just, I don't know, like I just felt like I couldn't do it.
47:48
I couldn't focus enough so I don't know.
47:50
But the key is, I guess what I learned like, it's Just
47:53
literally just keep swimming, just keep making just forever
47:58
and ever. Even if you don't think, like
48:01
when I started making these candleholders, they were cool
48:03
and I was doing them because it's what I liked.
48:06
But this like what I'm at now is what I wanted to be doing from
48:10
the beginning. There was no way in hell I could
48:13
have jumped to this. There was no way I could have
48:15
done the paintings I'm doing now.
48:17
I it wouldn't happen and if I hadn't forced myself to just
48:21
just keep building Even though I again like I would sometimes
48:25
sell these can be like, I'm sorry like which is such a
48:28
terrible people like would support me and I still think
48:30
they're really beautiful, but I like I'm so I'm such a
48:33
perfectionist like any little crate.
48:35
Like it didn't look pristine like it.
48:37
Belonged in a shelf, I didn't think it had value again.
48:40
It's this imposter syndrome, even though people were still
48:43
buying it, but there was value in it and they were stepping
48:46
stones and just keep going. And another like a quote, is
48:50
this quote was written in my day planner today but I I just loved
48:53
it so that it does not matter how slowly go as long as you do
48:56
not. Stop from Confucius.
48:58
And again, I just, I've always felt so slow and unfocused.
49:02
I have wanted to do something like this for so long and it
49:06
took me years and years and years and years, just keep
49:08
going, keep doing it. And then the second thing I was
49:10
going to say is just that I wish I'd known sooner is to start
49:14
before you're ready. Because I also, it took me so
49:17
long to start an Instagram account because I wanted to
49:21
start with a pristine. Grid of, you know, and have
49:24
everything be perfect. And you just just start just
49:27
putting it out there and just know you're just going to grow
49:29
and build and keep building from it.
49:31
One more thing I wanted to mention because this was also
49:34
really inspired my grandma started, writing poetry, and
49:37
doing watercolors that 85 years old, and she started busting out
49:40
the most beautiful, poetry, any of us had ever written about her
49:43
childhood and this wonderful beautiful gift.
49:47
She gave us 85. So it's amazing no matter like
49:51
what place your ear just you never know.
49:54
I would have never in a million years thought I'd start doing
49:56
this at almost 40 start making Star Wars candles, so it's never
50:01
too late. I think, wasn't it?
50:02
Like c.s. Lewis who said something like
50:04
that? Your, it's never too late to try
50:07
a new adventure, you know, as long as you've got air in your
50:10
lungs, you can do new things because you really do.
50:13
And I think especially, I don't know if I say that, I do think,
50:17
especially with women sometimes like, I don't know, like I feel
50:20
feel sometimes like there's like an expert.
50:22
Like my Using my youth and stuff and I don't know there's just
50:25
this we're taught that and all margin.
50:27
That women are only valuable if they're young and wrinkled
50:30
lists. Yeah yeah and it's like I've as
50:34
you know coming up on the edge of coming to its I've it's a
50:38
very it's been a really tough year really tough transition,
50:41
the joy and purpose I get from these from this art and the
50:45
connections I get from this is just, it's made all the
50:47
difference and I'm just so glad that I just kept going and I had
50:52
literally We never done that before for the 30 years prior
50:55
it's mostly just all unfinished, started things that I would
50:59
just. Once I got stuck, I throw them
51:01
aside and never pick them up again and just could never push
51:03
through. It's amazing when it's that,
51:05
that whole thing of like, expecting the same result from
51:08
the same behavior, it's like you have to change your behavior if
51:11
you want a new result and that's easy to say and hard to do.
51:14
We tend to, if there's like a big decision or big, major thing
51:18
you want to try, we were very good.
51:20
Like we tend to assess all the risks first.
51:22
Like if you were to move while these are the wrist, I could be
51:25
lonely. I could run out of money, I
51:27
could do that. And we think of all the risks
51:29
but we don't consider the risks of not.
51:33
Moving of not taking those chances.
51:35
This like kind of blew my mind of like just staying sedentary.
51:38
We don't we don't analyze like, well if I don't do anything five
51:41
years from now, I could still be unhappy stuck in the data and I
51:46
had like never thought of it that way there.
51:49
It's just for doing nothing to. So you might as well take the
51:52
Risks. Try something new because you
51:54
can also hurt yourself by doing nothing.
51:57
All right. Do you want to answer some rapid
51:59
fire questions? Let's do it.
52:02
Okay? Scared?
52:04
No, no, they're fun. Okay, first question, what
52:08
character would you bury what, weight, bearing, or Mary, Mary?
52:12
Mary, I literally just like, you asked me, which character do I
52:15
want to bury? And I was like just got dark.
52:19
No, we wouldn't ask - And only things you like that.
52:24
Thank you would kill like poop, um, Krell I don't know, maybe
52:29
charger, I don't know. Sorry I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
52:35
Oh Mary Luke, Luke Skywalker. I mean, it's just that's my
52:40
yeah. Off the top with me at Luke.
52:43
Luke was Ice Crush. I can't.
52:45
Yeah. Same.
52:47
Yeah, same here. Okay.
52:52
Are you a Jedi or a Sith and Jedi for sure.
52:56
Okay, which version of Obi-Wan, do you like best boy in
53:02
question? Since my most things cannot be,
53:06
this is supposed to be rapid fire.
53:08
Oh okay, I'm going to say Rebels.
53:11
I'm gonna go with like the maybe the unexpected and I because I
53:13
know and maybe it's cheap because we don't get much of
53:15
him. But what we can do get of
53:17
Obi-Wan in Rebels, is so profound.
53:22
And impactful and says so much and anyone who has never heard
53:31
my God. What's his name?
53:31
The voice of Darth Maul, you know I'm blanking Sam Sam
53:35
Witwer. Yeah yeah.
53:36
Anyone who's never heard him described that scene,
53:40
step-by-step go look that up a little the scene I'm talking
53:45
about is that went on Twin Sons episode of where is small in his
53:49
arms. That's that is like the The
53:53
epitome of Obi-Wan, to me, if you could wear one costume from
53:56
Star Wars, what would you wear? Oh, well, how should I name the
54:03
one I have hanging in my closet right now?
54:07
I think I should. Because Ray, I I love Ray.
54:15
I love Ray. And I love her outfits and I
54:18
have one hanging in my closet that I have not had the
54:21
confidence. To photograph myself in Cosplay
54:25
wearing, okay? So which would you pick what's
54:28
your favorite original trilogy? Prequel trilogy sequel, Trilogy,
54:32
or animated shows who? I mean, original?
54:36
I'm an original trilogy girl, and I don't know that anything
54:39
will replace that, although I will say, the animated shows
54:44
probably have the most impactful moments that make me cry and
54:48
elicit. The strongest emotions from me.
54:51
Okay. We're almost Done.
54:53
What's your favorite Obi-Wan hairstyle?
54:57
Oh gosh. I mean, the beard, the beard.
55:03
The Revenge of the Sith ob1 that's Revenge of the Sith.
55:06
I'll be one is the Obi one that I had wanted from the beginning
55:09
that just yeah beard. In fact, so you're so good.
55:14
Oh yeah. Yeah.
55:16
I just got so happy. Just thinking about it.
55:24
I like that answer, okay? If you could be any character in
55:29
all of Star Wars, who would you want to be questions?
55:34
Um, rapid-fire rapid-fire, I mean, okay, I mean the one
55:39
coming to my head, this one's really hard, because there's
55:42
three characters I'm saying, but I'm gonna go with Ray again.
55:45
I just really loved Ray and I would want to be re because I
55:49
feel like she's the most Like, Me In terms.
55:52
Zuv. She's has like a sensitivity and
55:55
a sweetness to her. She doesn't have to be a stoic
55:58
badass black widows much as I freaking love.
56:00
Black widow. Like, that's not the kind of
56:02
person I am. And Ray made me feel like I
56:05
could be a superhero. Alright, last question.
56:09
What special power would you want to have?
56:13
Gosh II mean, I volunteered Vala Jedi Powers.
56:17
I think just the the way they can use their use the force to
56:21
project their Like jumps like jumping over freaking Ravines
56:26
and jumping into spaceships and stuff.
56:28
And yeah, I just I don't know, like I always liked flying like
56:32
the thought of like flying and stuff and so I think that would
56:35
be my favorite. I guess of the Jedi Powers just
56:38
being able to kind of throw my body like that.
56:41
Be useful in everyday life. Yeah, right.
56:45
I just I like climbing things and I like, I don't know, to
56:48
just be able to just group pop right over.
56:51
It's all right. Well, thank you so much for
56:54
joining us here. It was really nice to have this
56:56
conversation. I hope you had fun.
56:58
I definitely did. Yes, thank you so much for
57:01
having me on. I loved it.
57:03
Yeah, it's been so nice getting to know you and just, I'm so,
57:07
so, I know we say all the time and I'm just, I'm so grateful
57:10
for everybody in our Little Star Wars Instagram, internet
57:14
microcosm, well. So real quick, then how can
57:18
people find you? Where can they find you?
57:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Instagram, Jenny Marie studio
57:25
and Jenny is spelled with an ie jennil507 to d0.
57:30
Instagram is where I post most of my like previews and
57:33
announcements and stuff for votive drops.
57:35
Great and we'll definitely link to you in the post related to
57:39
this as well, so people can find you.
57:40
Thank you so much. Thanks again, to Jenny for being
57:49
so generous with her time for this week's listener question.
57:52
Let us know if you've ever purchased one of Jenny's votives
57:55
and if so what did you buy and how did you like it unless
57:59
week's episode we discussed and or episode 5 & 6 we asked our
58:03
listeners. What their thoughts were?
58:05
I loved it just in case you were wondering and our friends over
58:09
at sisters Sabres Star. Destroyers sent me this message
58:13
on Instagram while I loved both episodes 5 & 6.
58:16
There was one specific Exchange in episode 6 that I had to
58:19
immediately rewind and re-watch the tenant.
58:22
In comes in during the heist and the large Imperial guy is
58:25
shocked. He says that Gorn is a traitor
58:28
and will be killed and Gorn simply responds that he deserves
58:32
worse for serving the empire in eldini.
58:35
That moment also caught my attention.
58:38
I want to know what did Lieutenant Gordon.
58:40
Do we all know, the Empire are evil bastard, so it definitely
58:44
got my curiosity piqued. Thanks as always to our
58:47
listeners for sending us their thoughts, every week.
58:50
Next week, we're going to discuss and, or episodes Seven
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