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Mac & Bone Show - Dylan Jackson Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Welcome in Mac and Bone Show on a Monday, not
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: the most raucous weekend for the Hornets. They did sign
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: a player on Friday, and we're still awaiting the plan
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  Speaker 1: of what may be to come for this organization right now, though.
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  Speaker 1: We bring in on the guest line a man who's
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  Speaker 1: doing a great job at sports Clt, a site you
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  Speaker 1: can subscribe to. I'll give you all the info on that,
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Jackson of the aforementioned sports CLT on the Mac
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  Speaker 1: and Bone Show. Dylan, what's up man? Thanks for joining
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  Speaker 1: us here for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I'm doing good, excited to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome man. We're trying to figure out as this goes
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  Speaker 1: along here. The Hornets trade Lamellow, they trade bridges, and
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  Speaker 1: we thought there was bigger things to come right now.
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  Speaker 1: It was just you know, the role guys from Phoenix
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  Speaker 1: and Dorian Finney Smith. Can you try to figure out
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  Speaker 1: in your mind what the plan is here or is
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  Speaker 1: it unknown to you what direction are headed in right now?
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  Speaker 2: So I never thought the follow up big move to
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  Speaker 2: the LaMelo ball trade would happen this summer. It almost
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  Speaker 2: felt to me like they would kind of posture themselves
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  Speaker 2: in a year twelve to fourteen, twelve to twenty four months,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a big move in that timeframe. Because of the
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  Speaker 2: nature of the picks they received two in twenty thirty three,
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  Speaker 2: like those are what like sixth graders right now, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's they can wait before they make their move. They
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  Speaker 2: want to, in my view, get the right type of player,
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  Speaker 2: somebody that fits the timeline of Brandon Miller contin Nipple,
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  Speaker 2: somebody who has a lot of contract control. They don't
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  Speaker 2: want to trade for somebody that only has a year
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  Speaker 2: or two left on their contract, like Jihanis did, and
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  Speaker 2: then be stuck in a situation where that player doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to extend. So there's a lot of precursors on
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  Speaker 2: a potential trade that I think they want to fulfill
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  Speaker 2: before they bring in a big fish. Earlier this summer,
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  Speaker 2: I vote that I thought that they would be kind
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  Speaker 2: of rumored for some guys like a Jalen Brown, like
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  Speaker 2: a Gianis, and their name did come up with Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Brown a little bit this summer, but I never thought
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  Speaker 2: that they would actually do something concrete. But I also
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  Speaker 2: didn't think that they would trade LaMelo Ball, so it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of twofold there.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think they decided to trade Lamel All
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  Speaker 1: when they did what? What do you think the biggest
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  Speaker 1: reason was? Was it off the court? Was it on
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  Speaker 1: the court? Was it the body holding up? What do
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  Speaker 1: you think the main reason was why they did it
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  Speaker 1: when they did it?
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  Speaker 2: I think this trade was a hedge against LaMelo Ball's
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  Speaker 2: previous injury history. He's really only had like one healthy
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  Speaker 2: season over the past five years or so, and he's
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  Speaker 2: been in the NBA for quite a while, so I
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  Speaker 2: think they're really hedging on the fact that LaMelo Ball
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  Speaker 2: played seventy games for the first time and it might
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  Speaker 2: be his career. Like it's been quite a long time
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  Speaker 2: of just constant injuries, So they're hedging on that quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit. And I really I can't blame them. I
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  Speaker 2: still I don't think that would have done the trade
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  Speaker 2: because the return was so low. But even though he
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  Speaker 2: played seventy games this past year, he was still on
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  Speaker 2: a pretty significant minutes restriction, And I think part of
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  Speaker 2: that is as an NBA team, it's really difficult to
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  Speaker 2: plan your future based on a player that has only
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  Speaker 2: played that many games once in his career and even
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  Speaker 2: in that season has only played up to thirty minutes
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  Speaker 2: to night. It's just really difficult to plan around that.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking to Dylan Jackson, doing a great job covering
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  Speaker 1: the Hornets of Sports Colt. He'll tell you how you
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  Speaker 1: can follow him here. Later on interview, Dylan sam Vassini
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  Speaker 1: brought up a name overnight that I'm also intrigued by. Now.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little hypocritical for me because I talked about
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  Speaker 1: the amount of role players that the Hornets have added
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  Speaker 1: so far. They got a ton of role players. They're
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  Speaker 1: still looking for a star. But would you have interest
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  Speaker 1: on this roster if they were to bring in Ruey Hachamura.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he has a six man type.
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  Speaker 2: So I really like Rui's game. Excellent shooter, he's pretty athletic.
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  Speaker 2: He's really grown, specifically throughout his time with the Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers. I wasn't a huge fan of his game
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  Speaker 2: before that that he's like one of the league's best shooters.
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  Speaker 2: The problem for me is what you described. They already
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  Speaker 2: have five true power forwards on their roster, which is
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  Speaker 2: like a third of a full NBA roster. They have Nazri,
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  Speaker 2: who they traded for Grant Williams t John Salon, Dory
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  Speaker 2: and Finney Smith Royce O'Neill. Those last two names are
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  Speaker 2: really interesting to me because I don't know that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to keep either of Dorian Phinney Smith or Royce O'Neil.
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  Speaker 2: They might trade. I probably Royce O'Neil would be the
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  Speaker 2: one that would have value there, or they could wave
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  Speaker 2: Dorian Phinney Smith for relatively low cost as well. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll keep either of those final
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  Speaker 2: two guys. But I think another thing that this front
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  Speaker 2: office wants and was signaled by the LaMelo of all trade,
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  Speaker 2: is they really want to open up opportunities for their
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  Speaker 2: young guys to play. Fijian Salon, despite being a third
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  Speaker 2: year player, really hasn't gotten much of a chance to
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  Speaker 2: play because of the names on the rosters throughout the
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  Speaker 2: last two years. So I think that they want to
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  Speaker 2: gain an understanding of what they have and even the
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  Speaker 2: player that they drafted this year, Hans Steinbach, is somebody
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  Speaker 2: who is projected as a four by a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different people. So I don't think that Rui Hachimora is
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  Speaker 2: in the fold. I would be pretty surprised if they
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  Speaker 2: ended up making a move for him, So don't really
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  Speaker 2: think they have a mechanism to where they could sign
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  Speaker 2: him for above a minimum contract. He's probably going to
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  Speaker 2: get a little bit more than the minimum. I expected
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  Speaker 2: him to get, like the full fifteen million dollar mid
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  Speaker 2: level exception, but the Hornets used their mid level exception
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  Speaker 2: on the Dorian Phinney Smith trade.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, the roster is a mix of almost every
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  Speaker 1: role player in the league. Seems like they're on the
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  Speaker 1: Hornet's roster, and then it's four. I describe him as
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  Speaker 1: good players at times can be really good, and Kobe Khan,
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  Speaker 1: Nasried and Brandon Miller. Brandon Miller has the most immediate,
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  Speaker 1: I think potential to make that leap into a star
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  Speaker 1: that they're looking for. But how much pressure do you
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  Speaker 1: think then on's on Brandon Miller now to maybe become
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  Speaker 1: an All Star player because of the way this roster
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  Speaker 1: is shaped.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the pressure this year is tremendous on
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Miller, not only to become like a true All
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  Speaker 2: Star caliber player, but from a financial perspective, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure that they're going to extend him this offseason. And
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  Speaker 2: then you're currently seeing a lot of restricted free agents
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  Speaker 2: on the market right now. They're always the last on
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  Speaker 2: the market because they don't have any leverage. So he
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  Speaker 2: needs to kind of establish himself as a true star
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  Speaker 2: caliber player if he wants to get that contract that
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  Speaker 2: I know he probably wants next summer if they don't
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  Speaker 2: extend him this year.
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  Speaker 1: Dylan tell us a little bit about sports CLT, what
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  Speaker 1: you guys are doing and how people can get involved
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  Speaker 1: and follow all your work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can follow us at SPORTSCLC dot com. You
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  Speaker 2: can subscribe there. It's free. We have a paid subscription
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  Speaker 2: as well. But we're always posting about the Hornets the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: We have two podcasts on both teams as well. We're
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  Speaker 2: always creating some sort of interactive guide. We had a
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  Speaker 2: Hornet's Draft guide. We had the Hornets GM game as well,
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  Speaker 2: so a lot of content over its with celt Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Check it out. It's you won't forget.
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  Speaker 1: It all right man. Thanks, We'll do this again, whether
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: it's the Hornets or the Panthers. Man, we encourage people
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  Speaker 1: go to SPORTSCLT dot com. Thanks a lot. Don't appreciate it,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.