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Listener Mail: July 2026 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Smith Thaugh and welcome to
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Speaker 1: stuff I never told your productive of iHeartRadio. And today
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Speaker 1: we're really excited to bring back our listener mail episodes.
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Speaker 1: It has been a hot minute since we have done
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Speaker 1: one of these.
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Speaker 2: Samantha h.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I get I forget how much we do until
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Speaker 1: I'm looking back over all of the all of the
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Speaker 1: listener mail. That being said, as we've mentioned in recent episodes,
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Speaker 1: if we do not respond to you it.
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Speaker 2: We do read it.
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Speaker 1: Occasionally I'll find something in the junk email that shouldn't
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Speaker 1: have gone to the chunk of meal, but that's pretty rare.
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Speaker 1: And we did go through a transition to a new
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Speaker 1: email address, but I still check the old one and
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Speaker 1: the new one. It's supposed to afford to the new
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Speaker 1: one anyway, and from what I understand it does.
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Speaker 2: I've seen it in action.
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Speaker 1: But just so you know, but I do apologize because
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Speaker 1: usually I'm the one that answers listener mail, and I
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Speaker 1: just have added in me and I didn't realize for
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Speaker 1: how long. But I this is my new I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: answer listener mail. This is my goal. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: get back into it. So some of these are from
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Speaker 1: a while ago. I'll say that too. Uh yeah, but
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Speaker 1: we love hearing from you. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: taking the time, and we wanted to read some of
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Speaker 1: the listener mail we've received for this episode, starting with Lena,
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Speaker 1: I know you've written in about how to pronounce your name.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I tried to find that email but
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Speaker 1: I couldn't, but please write in again and let us
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Speaker 1: know if we've got it wrong. We love hearing from you,
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Speaker 1: Lena wrote, I was so excited to hear your review
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Speaker 1: of The Bird Cage.
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Speaker 2: I just went to go.
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Speaker 1: See an anniversary showing at my local theater, so I
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Speaker 1: was all primed to sing we Are Family.
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Speaker 2: I must have been an early.
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Speaker 1: Teenager when this came out, but I remember seeing it
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Speaker 1: at some point with my parents, who didn't seem to
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Speaker 1: think much of the general content. We were all fans of
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Speaker 1: Robin Williams already, along with Gene Hackman. What stands out
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Speaker 1: to me is that shortly after this film came out,
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Speaker 1: my father went to go find the original play, a
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Speaker 1: movie that casual fola I can't pronounce it right either,
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Speaker 1: because he was interested in seeing how the character shifted.
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Speaker 1: I agreed that val the Sun is really kind of
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Speaker 1: a Brett. Although one of the things that I think
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Speaker 1: is a beautiful subtle way in which they show how
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Speaker 1: he was raised is when he starts mimicking his parents
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Speaker 1: and how they do the whole drama queen reaction. He
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Speaker 1: uses the same phrases I woke up feeling so good.
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Speaker 1: This can't work. This can't work as Armand and Albert,
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Speaker 1: And while that is just dialogue, I thought those were
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Speaker 1: super cut ways to show that he is a product
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Speaker 1: of his parents. But in the original film slash Play,
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Speaker 1: he's even worse. He's kind of bitterly nasty in a
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Speaker 1: way that can't be played off. As well, he's young
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Speaker 1: and in love, so he's kind of stupid. Barbara is
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Speaker 1: also a little bit different in the original. I think
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Speaker 1: in the bird Cage that while Barbara kind of sets
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Speaker 1: the whole lie off and is a little manipulative in
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Speaker 1: that way, again, young and in love equal stupid, but
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Speaker 1: she does show some examples of character and spine, asserting
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Speaker 1: to be called Barbara rather than Barbie, telling Goldman's that
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Speaker 1: she would have liked to be part of their family,
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Speaker 1: and threatening to stay. But in the original she's so
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Speaker 1: insignificant it's like she's barely there but in the bird cage.
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Speaker 1: Especially when I watched it this last time in the theater,
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Speaker 1: the ones that stand out are the mom's.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I.
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Speaker 1: Realized how manipulative Louise is. She's the one who comes
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Speaker 1: up with the plan of using Barbara's white wedding to
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Speaker 1: distract and distance the senator. She's the one who comments
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Speaker 1: on how easy it is to manipulate the media and
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Speaker 1: get the Pope's blessing. She's the one who, after realizing
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Speaker 1: her husband is infatuated with another conservative woman hello jealous
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Speaker 1: much who is actually a man in drag, breaks down
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Speaker 1: into her white woman tears and says, someone has to
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Speaker 1: like me best. I mean, maybe she was genuinely upset,
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Speaker 1: but it got me thinking. Then there's Catherine VAL's mother
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Speaker 1: or bearer could work too. She has no shame in
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Speaker 1: recognizing that she's not mothering material, but she's grateful to
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Speaker 1: Armand for how he was able to help her out.
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Speaker 1: She clearly appreciates armand even flirting with him again. And
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Speaker 1: she doesn't seem to hate Albert or dislike her son.
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Speaker 1: But she's not maternal and that's okay. And yes, I'll
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Speaker 1: throw Albert in there too, because he's clearly nurturing and
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Speaker 1: caring unless you're chewing gum while he's singing than God
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Speaker 1: Help you. After realizing that it was Val that Armand
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Speaker 1: is meeting, he just quietly goes in and checks on
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Speaker 1: his boy, tucks him.
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Speaker 2: In, and tidies up.
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Speaker 1: His whole plan of finally just acting as Armand's wife
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Speaker 1: and VAL's mother and leaning into his ability to add,
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Speaker 1: live and act is all to help support his family.
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Speaker 1: He seems deeply touched by Barbara, reaching out to her
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Speaker 1: and encouraging her to be who she's going to be.
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Speaker 1: Oh and I wanted to share this too, YouTube link.
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Speaker 1: It's a collection of missing scenes, some of which flush
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Speaker 1: out the characters a little bit more. I love the
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Speaker 1: one of Albert reacting to the cake being inaccurately marked,
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Speaker 1: and then also daydreaming him and Armand pushing their grandchildren
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Speaker 1: around in a stroller. Anyway, thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: covering this film. One final thought, I had forgotten how
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Speaker 1: powerful it was for Armand to demonstrate his love and
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Speaker 1: commitment to Albert. The palimony agreement is really lovely, especially
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Speaker 1: when this was in the midst of Don't Ask, Don't
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Speaker 1: Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act. So yeah, there's
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Speaker 1: some stuff that doesn't hold up. Oh the dance number. Uh,
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Speaker 1: but the relationships are amazing.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So much of this is really cool to hear from
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Speaker 1: somebody who's seen the play and the older the older
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Speaker 1: film and how they differ. I'm so glad we chose
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Speaker 1: this movie because we were between a couple things, and
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Speaker 1: I'm really happy that it has resonated. And we didn't mention,
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Speaker 1: but it had a Broadway revival last month when we
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Speaker 1: we missed that somehow.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, you make so many, so many great points.
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Speaker 1: I hadn't picked up on a lot of this stuff,
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Speaker 1: So I think that's really cool about how Val, who
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Speaker 1: I was kind of tough on in that episode, about
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Speaker 1: how he did pick up his parents' mannerisms. That's a
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Speaker 1: really cool detail to notice. It was sweet. Their relationship
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Speaker 1: was sweet. And you're right. Going back when it was
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Speaker 1: coming out, we talked about, you know, how AIDS and
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Speaker 1: HIV and all that had really had an impact on
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Speaker 1: what type of movie with gay characters were being made,
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Speaker 1: and how this one was so different, But we didn't
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Speaker 1: talk about DOMA and don't Don't tell so.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a lot. You know what.
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Speaker 4: I just realized as we were sitting here talking about
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Speaker 4: the Sun, who was played by Dan Futterman. He actually
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Speaker 4: plays the gay, straight good dude in Sex and the
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Speaker 4: City that Charlotte has a relationship with. Do you remember,
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Speaker 4: like she thought he was gay but he at it
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Speaker 4: turned out to be straight.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I.
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Speaker 3: Don't know why.
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Speaker 4: That just feels like it's aligned to him playing that
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Speaker 4: character in the Bird Cage.
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Speaker 2: Oh it could be, you know.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's the tongue in cheeks like I remember him
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Speaker 4: from this. Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: They just hit me though as she was talking as.
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Speaker 4: You were ready, and I was like, oh, yeah, I
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Speaker 4: don't know why that just hit me now. But there
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Speaker 4: you the correlations, the correlations.
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Speaker 2: You are full of them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I try.
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Speaker 4: And then Leslie, thank you. Leslie wrote this and I
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Speaker 4: appreciate this very much. I have a suggestion specifically for Samantha,
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Speaker 4: because I think it would be good for her and
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Speaker 4: her whole class to add a boundary about body comments. Samantha,
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Speaker 4: it might feel tricky because you're fairly new to teaching
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Speaker 4: a class, but you can incorporate a boundary of telling
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Speaker 4: your class to ask permission before sharing comments and advice
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Speaker 4: about bodies in before and after your class.
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Speaker 3: A little announcement before.
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Speaker 4: Or at the beginning of a class that quote, comments
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Speaker 4: and compliments are not always welcome, so please ask the
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Speaker 4: recipient if they're open to comments compliments before sharing. If
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Speaker 4: you want to make it slightly longer, you can mention
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Speaker 4: things you've said in the podcast. Like people is feeling
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Speaker 4: about their bodies can change from day to day. The
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Speaker 4: degree of sensitivity and even self esteem levels are also
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Speaker 4: often always in flux is a boundary we all need
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Speaker 4: to practice and be aware of, and it might give
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Speaker 4: some of your students' customers permission to opt out graciously.
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Speaker 4: If you're worried that some might not be able to
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Speaker 4: keep it to themselves, maybe bring some paper and pins
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Speaker 4: and ask them to write it down instead. They can
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Speaker 4: decide if they want to give it to the person. Afterwards,
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Speaker 4: Some might think better of it, and the recipient can
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Speaker 4: decide not to take it or look if they don't
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Speaker 4: want to. This is if they're filling the compliment, they
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Speaker 4: have a physical memento to keep. If they want, please
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Speaker 4: take any, all or none of my suggestions as it
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Speaker 4: fits your needs. I think these are some really great suggestions.
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Speaker 4: There is definitely conversations in my mind where I'm like,
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Speaker 4: I want to make sure my.
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Speaker 3: Class fills safe there.
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Speaker 4: And having people comment about bodies even when they don't
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Speaker 4: like even when they think they know someone so.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's always like eugh.
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Speaker 4: So these are really good suggestions, And thank you for
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Speaker 4: listening to that episode as well as my concerns because
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Speaker 4: obviously suggestions like this are really helpful and it also
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Speaker 4: validates my feelings of like I feel like we.
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Speaker 3: Need to figure out boundaries.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, these were excellent suggestions. Last Lesta, thanks
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Speaker 1: thanks for writing it, Ashley Rope, because you were talking
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Speaker 1: about community gardens fruit trees in your area. You were
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Speaker 1: wondering if you could pick peaches, I think, and wanting
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Speaker 1: some new resources. I am wondering if you have heard
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Speaker 1: of fruit share programs. There are a few different main models.
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Speaker 1: I am thinking more of the community based ones. There
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Speaker 1: are websites or apps where people sign up to either
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Speaker 1: pick people's excess fruit off their trees or pick the
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Speaker 1: fruit for people who aren't able to and split it
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Speaker 1: with them, basically neighborhood fruit surplus sign up. Maybe your
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Speaker 1: area has one.
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Speaker 2: I bet we do.
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Speaker 4: I bet that sounds amazing and I haven't even thought
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Speaker 4: of this as an option.
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Speaker 3: I've seen people put.
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Speaker 4: Out signs yeah that say you can like on their
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Speaker 4: own property that gives like directions, but having a community
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Speaker 4: board sounds like it would be a phenomenal idea.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go look that up.
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Speaker 4: Because yes, peaches, you were right, because there was peaches
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Speaker 4: growing in a communal garden on the west side properties.
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Speaker 4: Then I was like, can I get these? I don't know,
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Speaker 4: I don't know who it belongs to, but it was
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Speaker 4: in like the community gardens. But I know oftentimes community
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Speaker 4: gardens can also carve out spaces for individuals to have
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Speaker 4: their own small part.
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Speaker 3: So like, yes, York correctly was peaches. And now I'm
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Speaker 3: don't have.
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Speaker 4: To go look because I love fresh fruit and paying
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Speaker 4: a ridiculous amount, which I'm more than willing to pay
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Speaker 4: for fresh, locally grown fruit or foods. But at the
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Speaker 4: same time, if there's access that's been to going to waste, yes,
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Speaker 4: I'm down. Someone brought me mangoes from their mango tree
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Speaker 4: from Florida.
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Speaker 2: Oh nice. Recently, I know, yes, just recently nice.
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Speaker 1: I won a prize somebody brought me fresh blueberries and
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Speaker 1: a ton of banana peppers. I have had to come
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Speaker 1: up with all kinds of banana pepper recipes.
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Speaker 2: It's been great. I love this.
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Speaker 4: This is got two banana peppers. I've got two banana peppers.
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Speaker 4: I had two helipanos, and I have two giant big
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Speaker 4: boy bell.
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Speaker 1: Peppers, Big boys, big boy, big Yes. So clearly we're
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Speaker 1: very interested in this. Thanks for sending that along, Ashley.
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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna need more of this. Yes.
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Speaker 4: And then Ray friend of the show wrote in with
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Speaker 4: an update about our episode in Deborah, because she was
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Speaker 4: actually one of the ones like yes, talk about Deborah
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Speaker 4: and then we got the episode.
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Speaker 3: She's like, oh, let me tell you.
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Speaker 4: I got specific books I'm getting from the library and
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Speaker 4: you're gonna need to know more.
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, that wrot give it to me.
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Speaker 4: She has sent us several messages on Instagram, right, you know,
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Speaker 4: I see them. I don't always respond all the time,
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Speaker 4: but I appreciate all the messages that we get. It
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Speaker 4: feels like my friends sending me good, good, good, funny things.
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Speaker 4: And then she continued over on email, She's like, Okay,
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Speaker 4: I have so much more. So she gave us a
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Speaker 4: little bit of uh context in the so she wrote, Hello, Sam,
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Speaker 4: Annie and other members of the Sminty team. Here's the
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Speaker 4: continuation of Instagram research rabbit hole. I went down forget
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Speaker 4: the photos attached to this email, as I wanted to
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Speaker 4: be sure you could get access to the important pages
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Speaker 4: that I cited in my message just previously.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, she.
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Speaker 4: Did send those photos. It was great, uh medicure, your
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Speaker 4: nails look amazing. Hello, So you know I couldn't help,
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Speaker 4: But notice she says, just a recap. I pulled what
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Speaker 4: I sent via ig here and here from the book
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Speaker 4: quote and Introduction to the Old Testament, The Canon and
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Speaker 4: Christian Imagination by Walter Bergerman and Tom Linefeldt.
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Speaker 3: I hope I said that right on the second edition.
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Speaker 4: So the second major part of the book is a
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Speaker 4: section titled the Prophets, and chapter thirteen is all about
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Speaker 4: the Book of Judges. The authors break down three sections
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Speaker 4: of the book, starting with a brief intro that focuses
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Speaker 4: on the occupation of Canaan by the ancient Israelites, and
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Speaker 4: then the central section, which focuses on what were likely
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Speaker 4: remembers stories about folks who made a splash in public
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Speaker 4: life in ancient Israel when it was still mostly run
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Speaker 4: by tribal leaders, so there's a lot of hero stories
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Speaker 4: like Sampson and Deborah. The authors focus on the fact
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Speaker 4: that the Song of Deborah is likely one of the
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Speaker 4: earliest depictions of how the ancient Israelites understood their faith.
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Speaker 4: The author also state that the poem has remarkable rhetorical
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Speaker 4: power based on what they previously wrote about ancient Hebrew
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Speaker 4: poetry showing a dialogue between characters as compared to an
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Speaker 4: outside narrator telling the story. I think the fact that
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Speaker 4: so much of deborah story being told from her own perspective,
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Speaker 4: with the words being written as if they were coming
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Speaker 4: directly from her to the reader, definitely takes her out
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Speaker 4: of the passive voice territory and gives her not only
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Speaker 4: a seat at the center of the action, but also
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Speaker 4: lets her be the one to communicate our stories. I'll
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Speaker 4: send more information I get it, especially whenever I'm able
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Speaker 4: to get more books through the interlibrary loan, but wanted
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Speaker 4: to send this along to you all first while I
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Speaker 4: had something to contribute, and she does send us more
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Speaker 4: so this is from the Instagram posts.
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Speaker 3: She says in this Instagram post.
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Speaker 4: She says, if you want to dive in the darker
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Speaker 4: side of the Old Testament, you can explore David's sociopathic
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Speaker 4: tendencies and how he gained his wives Abigail and Bathsheba,
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Speaker 4: in both cases trying to pretend innocence while he caused
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Speaker 4: the deaths of their first husbands. David was a real peach.
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Speaker 4: I think we've talked about that before. I'm like, these
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Speaker 4: are not good guys, and yet we hil them as
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Speaker 4: good guys. And they do a lot because they want
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Speaker 4: another woman. They're willing to kill people for other women,
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Speaker 4: which is like, really gross. And he also sees them
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Speaker 4: as properties. But moving on, She also goes on to
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Speaker 4: say mostly he finished reading The Prophetic Imagination by Walter Bergerman,
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Speaker 4: and while he does not mention Deborah by name, he
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Speaker 4: does contrast prophets like her with the author's understandings of
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Speaker 4: God's law in the Old Testament. She talks about the
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Speaker 4: comparisons between Deborah, Isaiah, Moses, and Amos with royal consciousness
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Speaker 4: like that practiced by kings, David Solomon and others who
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Speaker 4: followed after them, and continued the line to the Pharisees
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Speaker 4: and sadducees of the New Testament who are following more
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Speaker 4: oppressive social orders that aligned with the ideas of empire.
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Speaker 4: He talks a lot about how prophetic imagination, hence the title,
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Speaker 4: draws on themes of both spare grief and hope. He
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Speaker 4: contrasts hope with optimism, making the point that hope does
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Speaker 4: not make light of the difficult circumstances in the Israeli
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Speaker 4: presents found themselves in, worn down by trying to simply
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Speaker 4: survive under repressive regimes, be they Israeli kings, Babylonian empires,
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Speaker 4: or Roman tatriarchs. His point seems to be that the
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Speaker 4: point of a prophetic leader like Moses or Isaiah, and
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Speaker 4: likely Deborah is to challenge the old royal imperial order
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Speaker 4: and call God's people back to showing compassion to all
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Speaker 4: and using hope as a way to inspire people to
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Speaker 4: not only imagine a better world, but to fight for
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Speaker 4: it even when things feel helpless. He goes on to
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Speaker 4: talk about Jesus ministry with the prophetic tradition, But I
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Speaker 4: figured you all would want to focus on Deborah. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: so it's definitely that type of conversation. Who Deborah was
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Speaker 4: and bringing that out. So thank you so much Ray
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Speaker 4: for doing get that deep dive like you really did.
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Speaker 4: We might need to just get you on the show
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Speaker 4: and have a conversation with us about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I love that you have like library books on loan
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Speaker 1: and the pictures you can see, like all the pages.
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Speaker 2: It's great.
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Speaker 1: It's a good old fashioned like research montage.
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Speaker 4: She's researching for the good of all.
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Speaker 3: And we thank you for that.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we really do, because we did struggle to
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Speaker 1: find We didn't think we thought there'd be more. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so we really appreciate it. We always appreciate it when
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Speaker 1: you listeners do send us this stuff that you're looking into. Benro,
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Speaker 1: I love the show and all you do. Thanks for
17:10
Speaker 1: staying strong despite the fascist insanity you live under. In
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Speaker 1: your latest Happy Hour, you were recounting the story of
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Speaker 1: rehabilitating Annie's car and mentioned the stereotypical ask a man
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Speaker 1: for car help, And I'd like to offer the perspective
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Speaker 1: of the man who gets asked. In my experience, nearly
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Speaker 1: nobody knows or cares about cars, regardless of gender. And
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Speaker 1: that's fine, but men tend to just not ask for
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Speaker 1: help on this topic as much as women do, probably
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Speaker 1: because they are afraid of being judged as unmanly. It's
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Speaker 1: a valid fear, as car culture has historically been very misogynistic,
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Speaker 1: as I've developed a reputation amongst my friends as the
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Speaker 1: car guy who doesn't judge our but little men for
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Speaker 1: not being car guys. Men in my life have dared
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Speaker 1: to ask my help with car stuff, and I would
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Speaker 1: say I get genuine asked for help equally from all genders. Now,
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Speaker 1: the other facet of this is that obviously anyone can
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Speaker 1: do car repairs, and it's super empowering to do so.
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Speaker 1: A petite lady might have a slightly harder time freeing
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Speaker 1: a tight bolt than what a big, brawny dude, but
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Speaker 1: f sat she can just put a longer cheater pipe
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Speaker 1: on the wrench to get the necessary leverage. It's a
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Speaker 1: very accessible and equitable possible task to do. I encourage
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Speaker 1: everyone in my life to get hands on their vehicle
18:27
Speaker 1: whenever possible. If you do have the car person doing
18:32
Speaker 1: some repairs for you, get in there and ask them
18:34
Speaker 1: to make you the hands, ask them what needs to
18:37
Speaker 1: be done, how and why?
18:40
Speaker 4: Love that you know what I have been guilty of,
18:42
Speaker 4: like shaming men. If they don't know a car. Fact,
18:45
Speaker 4: just joking about. But patriarchy hurts everyone, it.
18:49
Speaker 2: Does, it does.
18:52
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you wrote in about this because I
18:55
Speaker 1: remember in this Happy Hour. It's so funny because I'm
18:58
Speaker 1: worrying about my car to day. Today's the day I
19:01
Speaker 1: go mess with my car. Once a week, I go
19:04
Speaker 1: and make sure it's still something's growing into the trunk.
19:10
Speaker 3: You have mushrooms.
19:11
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's just in the seam. It's not
19:14
Speaker 1: inside the trunk, but like the seam of the trunk,
19:17
Speaker 1: and it's these beautiful green and sprouts. But anyway, uh,
19:24
Speaker 1: I think this is wonderful advice.
19:25
Speaker 2: I do think it's really empowering.
19:26
Speaker 1: When you know how to fix things or even just
19:30
Speaker 1: like generally you can kind of have a diagnostic of
19:34
Speaker 1: this is probably the issue. I think that's really really helpful.
19:37
Speaker 1: I remember when this Happy Hour came out, it was
19:40
Speaker 1: July fourth, So this is actually like a year.
19:44
Speaker 2: You came to help me. Yeah, yes, it was the fourth,
19:49
Speaker 2: It was the fourth of July.
19:51
Speaker 1: Well, well it was because it was a two part process,
19:54
Speaker 1: because your partner came and it.
19:56
Speaker 2: Helped with one thing, and then I had my other first.
19:59
Speaker 3: Partner because it didn't actually help. It helped for that day.
20:02
Speaker 2: It helped for that day.
20:03
Speaker 1: Was it was just the battery, really well, there was
20:05
Speaker 1: a bunch of other things, but the main issue was
20:07
Speaker 1: the battery.
20:10
Speaker 2: So it kind of just happened that way.
20:13
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just kind of felt that, you know,
20:17
Speaker 1: I'm asking these dudes in my life or my friend's
20:22
Speaker 1: life to come help me with the car. So it
20:24
Speaker 1: just sort of felt like the stereotype was playing out.
20:26
Speaker 1: But I think you're completely right because I believe I
20:28
Speaker 1: also told the story in that episode that my ex
20:31
Speaker 1: boyfriend he knew nothing about cars, and he wasn't ashamed
20:35
Speaker 1: to admit it.
20:35
Speaker 5: He was like, nope, we were cock so funny. I
20:38
Speaker 5: don't know how to do that. Okay, fair enough, fair enough,
20:44
Speaker 5: that understood this.
20:46
Speaker 2: I got it.
20:47
Speaker 1: And our friend of the showp In Bowlin, he's kind
20:49
Speaker 1: of a car guy, so maybe he's offered to help
20:52
Speaker 1: me with some things before, so maybe we can fill
20:54
Speaker 1: him up or something. Okay, yeah, the learning facts to
20:59
Speaker 1: learn it to do it myself.
21:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, get your hands in there, yes, okay.
21:04
Speaker 4: And then we have Mia who wrote about our episode
21:07
Speaker 4: about men lying about politics on dating apps, episode which
21:10
Speaker 4: it probably should come back and revisit because I think
21:11
Speaker 4: it's gotten worse. But anyways, this is what they wrote.
21:14
Speaker 4: Thanks for bringing light to how often this happens on
21:17
Speaker 4: dating apps. I identify as an assist gender Asian, heterosexual,
21:20
Speaker 4: twenty three year old woman who has used platforms such
21:23
Speaker 4: as Hinge Tender and Bumble as someone who bases my
21:25
Speaker 4: relationship preference on political affiliations. I also believe it reveals
21:30
Speaker 4: someone's moral beliefs. I have noticed followed some clear signs
21:33
Speaker 4: that indicate if a person leans more conservatively in their beliefs.
21:37
Speaker 4: Some ways to spot conservative men include if they're holding
21:40
Speaker 4: a fish in one of their profile pictures. Someone, please
21:43
Speaker 4: explain to me why they chose this type of photo.
21:46
Speaker 4: If I wanted fish, I could go hunt for one
21:48
Speaker 4: in the grocery store. Yes, I also noticed those too.
21:51
Speaker 4: I'm like, if you're holding fish or some kind of game,
21:54
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're probably conservative.
21:58
Speaker 2: If it's like your pro file pick for sure.
22:01
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, you're not trying to impress women
22:04
Speaker 4: with this one.
22:05
Speaker 3: By the way, I mean that's the other part.
22:07
Speaker 4: If if you work in finance, I agree, if you
22:10
Speaker 4: work in finance, Sorry, y'all, country music depends on the artists.
22:13
Speaker 4: I like to think of country in two ways. I
22:15
Speaker 4: love my tractor country and more pop country. So I
22:18
Speaker 4: also like, if you are a Morgan Walden fan, you
22:22
Speaker 4: are a mecca like they are at one hundred and
22:25
Speaker 4: twenty thousand percent.
22:26
Speaker 3: Just so you know.
22:28
Speaker 4: Military affiliation yeah, sorry, yeah, uh huh. Religious followings, yes,
22:34
Speaker 4: American flag or anything patriotic. Those are the ones that
22:37
Speaker 4: come to mind, but there are probably a dozen more. Also,
22:40
Speaker 4: to refer back to your comment about moderates, I view
22:42
Speaker 4: them equally to those who are not political. Just make
22:45
Speaker 4: up your mind and they know how they feel about
22:47
Speaker 4: certain issues. If they are not political, they should at
22:50
Speaker 4: least recognize the privilege they have to be oblivious. However,
22:53
Speaker 4: there are cases, such as individuals who are not originally
22:55
Speaker 4: from America, where I can understand not being involved in politics.
22:59
Speaker 4: If I do end up matching with someone who identifies
23:01
Speaker 4: as a moderate, I often ask them for their thoughts
23:03
Speaker 4: on issues of reproductive rights and LGBTQ plus issues. Very smart, Yes,
23:09
Speaker 4: I'm with you. Those are definitely my markers as well.
23:11
Speaker 4: When I was looking religion, anything too devoted to a
23:16
Speaker 4: religion is like nah, no, we're good because we're definitely
23:19
Speaker 4: not gonna mash so I definitely understood that. Yeah, these
23:22
Speaker 4: are some really good ones though, and obviously law enforcement, if.
23:27
Speaker 3: You're in law enforcement, I'm probably already you don't like it.
23:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are these are really good.
23:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for sharing, and yeah, listeners, we do.
23:40
Speaker 2: Need to come back and revisit this one.
23:43
Speaker 1: Uh So if there are new new flags to be
23:48
Speaker 1: looking out for.
23:49
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's new terms that we need to come
23:50
Speaker 4: back to, because you know, like things like situationships and
23:53
Speaker 4: cuffing season about this already out the window.
23:56
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I used to.
24:00
Speaker 1: We have a long spreadsheet of ideas listeners, and we
24:04
Speaker 1: just never get to some of them that I used
24:07
Speaker 1: to just occasionally I had. I had a section on
24:10
Speaker 1: there that was just new dating term. We'll do a
24:13
Speaker 1: short episode about this. And I'm sure like if I
24:16
Speaker 1: went back and looked at them now, a lot of
24:19
Speaker 1: a lot of them aren't any use anymore. Yeah, but
24:22
Speaker 1: it was it was interesting how many I was like, wait, what,
24:26
Speaker 1: there's a new one. It was like it was related
24:29
Speaker 1: to catfishing. It was like white live fishing or something,
24:34
Speaker 1: and I was like, this just sounds like a date,
24:36
Speaker 1: but it's basically you tell white lies on the first
24:38
Speaker 1: date and make yourself sound better and like, I don't
24:41
Speaker 1: know that that needs a specific I feel like the
24:44
Speaker 1: cat happens.
24:46
Speaker 3: I'll learned the term today. E MP. It's not what
24:49
Speaker 3: you think? Okay is acronym?
24:52
Speaker 2: Okay?
24:53
Speaker 3: Do you know what it is?
24:54
Speaker 2: No?
24:55
Speaker 3: Eat my pants?
24:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. That was not what I I thought
25:00
Speaker 2: it would be.
25:02
Speaker 3: I had to look it up. I was like, what
25:04
Speaker 3: is this anyway? Moving on?
25:09
Speaker 1: Yes, moving on. We have another message from Helena. I
25:14
Speaker 1: really liked your two parter on friendship. I'm deeply introverted
25:17
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but I'm finding more and
25:19
Speaker 1: more that that is not helping me, because there are
25:21
Speaker 1: certain things I want to be more involved with, including
25:24
Speaker 1: social activism of all sorts, and it's just making me
25:27
Speaker 1: pull back. I had one friend throughout my childhood seven
25:31
Speaker 1: to eighteen, and barely more than that. For most of
25:34
Speaker 1: my childhood, I had a few people I was friendly
25:37
Speaker 1: with in eighth grade that I was in good stead
25:39
Speaker 1: with in high school, but that was it. There was
25:42
Speaker 1: a lot of bullying and ostracizing at my school, so
25:45
Speaker 1: I was just as happy to ignore the lot of
25:47
Speaker 1: them once high school wrapped. It's been twenty five years
25:49
Speaker 1: and I haven't even gotten word of the reunions. Where
25:54
Speaker 1: this starts to get interesting, I think, is that this
25:56
Speaker 1: one friend and I no longer talk at all. That
25:59
Speaker 1: disconnection started when I was in college. I had an
26:01
Speaker 1: interesting experience where I realized we were likely going to
26:04
Speaker 1: be drifting apart. I was starting college, she had dropped
26:07
Speaker 1: out of high school, got married, and was expecting a kid.
26:10
Speaker 1: The funny thing to me was that I had this
26:12
Speaker 1: realization that we were going to be drifting apart a lot,
26:15
Speaker 1: and eventually did. When I made my first grown up friend,
26:19
Speaker 1: I was sitting outside before classes started in the fall
26:21
Speaker 1: of my freshman year. It was August and not too
26:23
Speaker 1: hot for once, and I was working on a cross
26:25
Speaker 1: stitch project as a wedding present for my childhood friend.
26:29
Speaker 1: I was thinking about how different our lives were going
26:31
Speaker 1: to be and trying to think, how do I overcome this?
26:34
Speaker 1: Should I overcome this? And this random dude sat down
26:37
Speaker 1: next to me. He said, I've never seen someone actually
26:40
Speaker 1: do that before, across ditch work, just the finished product,
26:45
Speaker 1: and that opened up our first conversation. To this day,
26:48
Speaker 1: he is someone I have to make sure my phone
26:50
Speaker 1: is fully charged for because even though we will text
26:52
Speaker 1: and check in with each other pretty regularly, when we
26:55
Speaker 1: start to talk, we'll kill phone batteries. I have had
26:59
Speaker 1: conversations with him that cover everything and nothing in particular
27:01
Speaker 1: that last six hours. I've also had the fun experience
27:05
Speaker 1: of making friends with a couple. This has happened several
27:08
Speaker 1: times where I am friends with one and then the
27:11
Speaker 1: other one. I don't end up feeling like a third
27:13
Speaker 1: wheel too often. At least one thing I try to
27:16
Speaker 1: make abundantly clear in those situations is that I like
27:19
Speaker 1: both people involved. I don't want to hear about their
27:22
Speaker 1: relationship drama if they're having any, unless they're asking for
27:25
Speaker 1: date night ideas, present ideas, or something similar. I might
27:29
Speaker 1: be aarroas, but I'm a good sounding board, and if
27:32
Speaker 1: they end up separating, I am keeping both. When I
27:35
Speaker 1: moved halfway across the country to where I am now,
27:38
Speaker 1: I was really concerned with how I was going to
27:40
Speaker 1: make a social network. I used the meetup app to
27:43
Speaker 1: find a group called Social Introverts in my new area
27:46
Speaker 1: and found out that there was a board game subgroup
27:49
Speaker 1: that met regularly, so I went to that and started
27:52
Speaker 1: making friends, which led to my current roommate. The whole
27:56
Speaker 1: work friend thing is weird to me. I want to
27:59
Speaker 1: keep my world a bit more separated, but it is
28:02
Speaker 1: nice to be friendly with my coworkers. I think the
28:05
Speaker 1: struggle is that there are certain boundaries that get crossed,
28:07
Speaker 1: especially with gender and power dynamics that pop up. Yeah,
28:11
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you enjoyed those episodes. I've said before,
28:15
Speaker 1: those episodes had a big impact on me too, and
28:18
Speaker 1: how I was interacting with some friends, and it calls
28:21
Speaker 1: me to reach out to some friends I hadn't reached
28:22
Speaker 1: out to in a long time because they had kids
28:26
Speaker 1: and I assume they were too busy, and then they
28:28
Speaker 1: immediately wanted.
28:29
Speaker 2: To hang out.
28:29
Speaker 1: So that was a really impactful one for me as well.
28:34
Speaker 1: And I love it you found this group social introverts.
28:37
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
28:40
Speaker 1: And yes, Lena has sent in a lot of board
28:44
Speaker 1: game suggestions before, so if anybody is looking for some
28:48
Speaker 1: board game suggestions, you can email us.
28:50
Speaker 2: I'll forward to the law.
28:52
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's always great when you find that friend
28:56
Speaker 1: that you just click and then you can talk.
28:59
Speaker 4: For friends, Yeah, you might not see them or talk
29:01
Speaker 4: to them for six months and then come back and
29:03
Speaker 4: have like that pick up Yeah immediately, I love those moments.
29:07
Speaker 2: And then it started off for cross Stitch.
29:09
Speaker 3: I love that I was likely was he hitting on you?
29:11
Speaker 3: That was my head, but which is so ridiculous.
29:15
Speaker 1: And then Cale wrote Hello, Annie and Samantha. I was
29:19
Speaker 1: inspired to write to y'all because of your recent conversations
29:21
Speaker 1: around Dragon Con. But there are some other things I'd
29:24
Speaker 1: like to comment on as well. Women and guilt. I
29:27
Speaker 1: resonate so hard with what Annie describes and all the
29:29
Speaker 1: guilt that comes from social interactions. I was raised as
29:33
Speaker 1: a woman, and my experience now living as a trans
29:35
Speaker 1: man is absolutely influenced by the people pleasing slash caregiver
29:39
Speaker 1: tendencies I was brainwashed into infusing with my identity. I
29:43
Speaker 1: always say I'm a guy with a special kind of guy,
29:46
Speaker 1: mostly because of my deep understanding of how normative womanhood
29:49
Speaker 1: in America teaches us to gaslight ourselves from birth. That's
29:52
Speaker 1: a level of understanding that comes with a lot of
29:55
Speaker 1: anxiety and grief self soothing. I listened to this one
29:59
Speaker 1: on my way back from I'm a Rose City comic
30:01
Speaker 1: con in Portland, which was fitting. I love your thoughts
30:04
Speaker 1: on the societal expectations when it comes to what sel
30:07
Speaker 1: soothing looks like for men and women. Last year I
30:11
Speaker 1: started deeply exploring being on the autism spectrum for the
30:14
Speaker 1: first time, and much of what I've learned about what
30:17
Speaker 1: sel soothing comes from that highly recommend the book Unmasking
30:21
Speaker 1: Autism by Devin Price. Growing up a girl, I was
30:24
Speaker 1: discouraged from physical stemming, playing video games and at a
30:28
Speaker 1: certain age playing with slash cuddling dolls at a huge
30:31
Speaker 1: stuffed animal collection. When I think about that, I ask, well,
30:36
Speaker 1: what did I do?
30:36
Speaker 4: Then?
30:37
Speaker 1: I stuffed my discomfort down as deep as it could go,
30:40
Speaker 1: and now at thirty two, I'm finally letting it out.
30:43
Speaker 1: I love cuddling my animals and weighted blanket, playing Red
30:46
Speaker 1: Dead Gemption over and over, and fidgeting in public. But
30:50
Speaker 1: I realized that my male appearance makes it so nobody
30:52
Speaker 1: bats an eye at me. It's very strange to feel
30:55
Speaker 1: so afraid on the inside, and then to realize how
30:57
Speaker 1: normalized it actually is. Four men, white men, and specifically
31:00
Speaker 1: to stem in public and lastly, come a con. I
31:04
Speaker 1: have been to the one in San Diego like ten
31:06
Speaker 1: years ago, but this year was my first time going
31:09
Speaker 1: to a con as an unmasked autistic adult, and it
31:12
Speaker 1: felt amazing. I am starting to understand what Annie talks
31:15
Speaker 1: about when it comes to the cathartic nature of just
31:17
Speaker 1: letting yourself enjoy things that cool people like to pretend
31:20
Speaker 1: are embarrassing or nerdy. I was bullied for being weird,
31:24
Speaker 1: so there's a lot I'm unpacking, but I'm happy to
31:26
Speaker 1: report that annual con trips are a priority for me now.
31:30
Speaker 1: I'd love to go to Dragon Con someday. Attached as
31:33
Speaker 1: a photo of the souvenir I got from this year's experience.
31:37
Speaker 1: Thank you both for everything you do, especially in these
31:39
Speaker 1: dark times. Ear voices brought me so much comfort through
31:42
Speaker 1: the years, and I look forward to every episode. Your
31:44
Speaker 1: hard work does not go unnoticed. Okay, so I've got
31:48
Speaker 1: to talk about this wonderful photo of attached there's okay, Cal,
31:53
Speaker 1: thank you so much.
31:54
Speaker 2: You have written it over the years. Always love hearing
31:56
Speaker 2: from you.
31:59
Speaker 1: So to a Paradot from Stephen Universe, which is a
32:03
Speaker 1: character we.
32:04
Speaker 2: Did Women around the World, fictional women around.
32:07
Speaker 1: The world whose ace uh Paradot sitting in the toilet,
32:12
Speaker 1: which is a famous meme it's a famous picture of
32:15
Speaker 1: this character if you were to google.
32:19
Speaker 2: Uh.
32:20
Speaker 1: So, that's fantastic, that's absolutely amazing. It's so good, it's
32:26
Speaker 1: really good.
32:27
Speaker 3: I love that they send us a fresh tattoo too immediately.
32:32
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, we've gotta you gotta immortalize this in
32:41
Speaker 1: photograph and send it a good Yeah, it's got to
32:43
Speaker 1: be shared. Well, I'm glad you had a good experience
32:46
Speaker 1: at Roast City com Con.
32:48
Speaker 2: Uh.
32:49
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about how overwhelming they can be,
32:51
Speaker 1: but how rewarding they can be. You should definitely come
32:55
Speaker 1: to dragon Con if you do, let us know. Interestingly,
33:01
Speaker 1: I was working on some dragon Con stuff last night.
33:05
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting prepared. So keep us updated on
33:11
Speaker 1: your con experiences. Anything you'd like to share, we would
33:14
Speaker 1: love to hear. And yeah, as always, we really appreciate
33:18
Speaker 1: you sharing your thoughts and your experience. As for these
33:23
Speaker 1: topics like women in guilt and self soothing.
33:27
Speaker 2: This is very valuable.
33:29
Speaker 1: And yeah, thank you for being open with us and
33:33
Speaker 1: taking the time to write this out and share with us.
33:37
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you.
33:49
Speaker 4: And then we want to jump into games because obviously
33:52
Speaker 4: we've all we're always asking for suggestions and games and
33:56
Speaker 4: I am still asking for suggestions and games we need
33:58
Speaker 4: to come back because it's been a and since we've
34:00
Speaker 4: talked about them as well. But this one is from Marie,
34:03
Speaker 4: who wrote, I've been a fan of your podcast for years.
34:06
Speaker 4: I am also a big gamer, and while RPGs are
34:09
Speaker 4: my main fix, I do love open worlds. Actually I'm
34:12
Speaker 4: guessing that's because Aighties talked about not living open worlds.
34:17
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, right.
34:19
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of cozy games as well. I've
34:22
Speaker 4: played so much Stardoo Valley I wanted to suggest some
34:25
Speaker 4: lovely cozy games. I have played Tiny Bookshop, which drive
34:29
Speaker 4: around a lovely seaside town in your book van, recommend
34:32
Speaker 4: and sell books to locals, and also do quests for them,
34:35
Speaker 4: just so wholesome and delightful. I even have all the
34:38
Speaker 4: achievements on Steam. I think I looked this one up
34:40
Speaker 4: and I felt like at the time that it was
34:42
Speaker 4: only available on Steam, which is not my favorite format
34:45
Speaker 4: of gaming. But I'm going to go back and look
34:47
Speaker 4: it up because that looks like something right up my alley.
34:49
Speaker 2: That sounds cool, right.
34:51
Speaker 4: I did download this next one, and I don't think
34:55
Speaker 4: i've played it yet, which is bear and Breakfast. You
34:58
Speaker 4: are a bear who starts Renova and renting out cabinets
35:01
Speaker 4: for human visitors who do freak out a bit if
35:03
Speaker 4: they see you make the perfect places to stay. Do
35:06
Speaker 4: some quest learn how to make things very satisfying. I've
35:09
Speaker 4: seen this recommended on a few lists, so yeah, like
35:12
Speaker 4: I said, after I think we received this email, I
35:14
Speaker 4: did download this. I just haven't played it yet, but
35:17
Speaker 4: i'll We're coming back to it. Then they also suggested
35:20
Speaker 4: Little Known Galaxy, which is a Stardoo Valley in space
35:23
Speaker 4: basically very fun, which was not successful at Stardoo Valley,
35:28
Speaker 4: but my partner really really really loved it, so I
35:31
Speaker 4: feel like this might be one of those games that
35:32
Speaker 4: we both do. And then they suggest I was a
35:36
Speaker 4: teenage exocolonist. You grow up in a space colony that
35:40
Speaker 4: is under attacked by native creatures. There are a lot
35:42
Speaker 4: of choices, including who you romance, who you were friends with,
35:46
Speaker 4: what you study, and how you try and resolve these
35:49
Speaker 4: issues on the planet. Every time you die, you start again,
35:52
Speaker 4: but your character remembers a beautiful and deeply emotional game.
35:55
Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about that.
35:57
Speaker 2: I think that's really interesting.
36:00
Speaker 4: Staying concept it feels like that game that we played
36:03
Speaker 4: that was your suggestion that I really liked oxen Free.
36:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, oxen Free kind of like that how it builds
36:10
Speaker 3: mm hmm.
36:11
Speaker 1: Oxen Free. The team behind oxen Free is releasing a
36:15
Speaker 1: new game that is like it's a thirty minute game
36:19
Speaker 1: and it's supposed to be terrifying, and it's like it's
36:23
Speaker 1: a Netflix game. I have no idea how this's gonna work,
36:26
Speaker 1: but it will like call your phone and you'll like
36:29
Speaker 1: talk to people.
36:30
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've heard it really terrifying.
36:34
Speaker 4: The team who did oxen Free did get bought out
36:35
Speaker 4: by the Netflix.
36:36
Speaker 3: I do remember that because I was like, what is
36:38
Speaker 3: this hauh huh? I know right, don't call me. I
36:42
Speaker 3: don't want answer my phone. So it does matter.
36:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, marios On, There's probably more I could mention,
36:46
Speaker 4: but please continue all your good work. I may not
36:48
Speaker 4: live in the US, but I think we all need
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Speaker 4: something wholesome escabe into right now. Oh, I am a
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Speaker 4: Scott living in London at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 4: I know you've written it before and I've talked about
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Speaker 4: one to come and visit. Also if you do train right, yes,
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Speaker 4: because I'm very interested in sharing Rise in Scotland right now.
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Speaker 3: Let me know.
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Speaker 4: Also, as an asexual person, I appreciate all you do
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Speaker 4: to educate people. You did a segment on Yesmin Benoir,
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Speaker 4: who's absolutely a hero of mine.
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Speaker 2: Thanks friend, Yeah, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: I always love hearing from you, and yes, we do
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Speaker 1: love all the suggestions, so thank you very much for
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Speaker 1: sending them in. I think after you email this, I
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Speaker 1: immediately forwarded it to Samantha's like.
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Speaker 4: You did, and that's where I was like, Okay, I
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Speaker 4: definitely needed to download the Bear and Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: The other ones. I gotta do the Tiny Bookshop. I
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Speaker 3: think it's available now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds that sounds cute.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And then we have Amelia who wrote you asked about
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Speaker 4: the game of Verdant, which I own and can highly recommend.
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Speaker 4: I also have another game from the same company, Caligo,
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Speaker 4: and pledge the kickstarter for their latest called The Knitting Circle.
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Speaker 4: In Verdant, each player tries to make the best room
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Speaker 4: layout with the happiest, healthiest plants. There are gold cards
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Speaker 4: for the room items and plants. In Calico, you're sowing
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Speaker 4: the coziest quilt that attracts cats. The goals are designed tiles, cats,
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Speaker 4: and buttons that are both cozy, beautiful games illustrated by BETHA. Sobel,
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Speaker 4: and some other games you might enjoy Matt City, which
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Speaker 4: is a short time a tile laying game about building
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Speaker 4: a city, Unspeakable Words, which is scrabble meats saving D
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Speaker 4: twenty rolls against Insanity with the cutest eldritch horror illustrations.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not gonna lie.
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Speaker 4: That last one was like four language to me, so
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Speaker 4: any explained that.
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Speaker 2: So I'm guessing you've got scrabble.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that part I got, all right.
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Speaker 1: So a saving D twenty roll is like if something,
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Speaker 1: if a monster attacks you, you have to roll a
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Speaker 1: D twenty, which is a twenty sided dice to see
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Speaker 1: if you if you either survived the attack, how much
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Speaker 1: damage do you take.
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Speaker 2: Or do you like evade.
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Speaker 1: So that's it's kind of determining how badly you get damaged,
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Speaker 1: if at all. And if it's against insanity, then it
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Speaker 1: would be you want to keep your sanity, and if
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Speaker 1: you fail the D twenty saving role, you would lose
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Speaker 1: your sanity by bit by bit usually probably, and.
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Speaker 2: Then you know Altratar that's cute.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, Okay, okay, okay, I'm just shrinked by this. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: doubt Yeah, I think we need I think we would
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Speaker 4: need to grab this one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds that sounds fun and really creative. That's
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Speaker 1: one of the things I love hearing about all these games.
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Speaker 1: They're so creative.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So that is what we have today for a listener mail.
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Speaker 1: But please keep writing in. We do love hearing from
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