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Jaguars Happy Hour | Jaguars Storylines After Preseason Week 1 vs. Steelers · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August eleven. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought you by Jet Home Loans
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  Speaker 1: and now the Little Pill with a Big Story to tell.
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  Speaker 2: Jan P. Chacker.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in. It is the first hour of Jaguars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 3: presented by Jet Home Loans. We're back on a Monday
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  Speaker 3: on TENENXL, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Busy two
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  Speaker 3: hours ahead. Here's What's coming up presented by Deep Eddie
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  Speaker 3: It is the first Monday show of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: Will review the Jaguars lost to the Steelers in preseason
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  Speaker 3: Week one. The sky is falling around du ball. We'll
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  Speaker 3: try to calm you down a little bit. Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 3: update what happened on both sides of the ball for him,
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  Speaker 3: and then a look ahead to this week of practice
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  Speaker 3: in the Jaguars Saint preseason week two coming up. We
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  Speaker 3: welcome and of course CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Prisco.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Boselli's down the hall in another office these days.
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  Speaker 3: Our new teammate on Monday Happy our former Jaguars defensive
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  Speaker 3: lineman current UFC fighter Austin Lane. Welcome, Austin.
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  Speaker 4: So this wasn't my job, resume when you guys brought
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  Speaker 4: me on to calm people down, Like I thought we
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  Speaker 4: could just be honest after that first preseason game.
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  Speaker 3: But I wasn't told in the email we have to
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  Speaker 3: calm people down. But I'm nervous now. Pete does not
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  Speaker 3: calm anybody down. I got you at all.
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  Speaker 2: Never. By the way, welcome to the insane Asylum, Austin.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have it. We're gonna have a great time. Look.
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  Speaker 2: I berated and abused the last.
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  Speaker 5: Guy that'sat in the seat, so he ended up as
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  Speaker 5: being a general manager.
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  Speaker 2: So if I berate and abuse you, you'll probably end
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  Speaker 2: up being the champion of the world.
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  Speaker 3: And you're wait, see I like that. Yeah, we're moving on,
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  Speaker 3: U man. I like it. You can watch it on
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  Speaker 3: CBS apparently coming up too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: The deal.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, who who did you say was down
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  Speaker 2: the hall?
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  Speaker 3: But silly who?
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  Speaker 2: Who? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, what are you talking about.
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  Speaker 2: He's gone, it's sober, he's upstairs.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying he's down the hall, he's you know, okay,
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  Speaker 3: But I'm curious if he has rabbit ears like the
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  Speaker 3: last guy.
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  Speaker 2: Of course he does, of course he does. You know
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have rabbit ears? Are you kidding me? Now,
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  Speaker 2: he'll do it in a playful way. He won't do
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  Speaker 2: it in a mean, nasty way, right, I think.
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  Speaker 3: I would hope so.
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  Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, man, is it true
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  Speaker 4: that did you bully him into the EVP job or
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  Speaker 4: did he take that job willingly?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of both, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit of both.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, it was. It's a great opportunity for him.
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  Speaker 5: I'm happy for him. I think he's great in that job.
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  Speaker 5: He's be great in the role. But what it really does,
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  Speaker 5: if the thing goes rotten, it gives us. It gives
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  Speaker 5: us a layup on every week.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the low hanging fruit there, Pete.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, and now he's not only that, he's dressing
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  Speaker 5: like Gladstone.
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  Speaker 3: Oh we had how about Pete? We had both those
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  Speaker 3: guys on together the last three weeks on the Liam
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  Speaker 3: Cohen Show. We don't have the coach yet until the
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  Speaker 3: regular season. So it's been Gladstone and Bisselli together and
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  Speaker 3: it's like the movie Twins, remember that one where it's
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  Speaker 3: like Schwarzenegger individo by wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Though when he used to come on the show, he'd
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  Speaker 2: wear a T shirt or he button down shirt or something.
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  Speaker 5: Now he's wearing these Lulu Lemon hoodies or whatever. He's
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  Speaker 5: dressed like wets.
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  Speaker 3: And these short shorts. Well, all of a sudden, they're
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  Speaker 3: back in style. It's ridiculous. Listen, I'm gonna shout.
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  Speaker 2: Out to you should come in a hoodie. You should
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  Speaker 2: come in a hoodie.
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  Speaker 3: One day.
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  Speaker 4: So, and I don't know, James Gladstone and some of
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  Speaker 4: these coaches actually did a science experiment at training camp
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  Speaker 4: because we saw one day James Gladstone was rocking actually
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  Speaker 4: like a full fledged hoodie, which was insane to me
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  Speaker 4: because we're talking about like ninety degrees. Yeah, practice, And
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  Speaker 4: if you're the GM of the Jacksonville Jaguars, why you
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  Speaker 4: got a sweat you know? I mean, I'm wearing a
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  Speaker 4: tank top. As far as i'm you can't tell me nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I brought Travis Hunter here, but we saw him in
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  Speaker 4: a hoodie, so I was like I was curious if
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  Speaker 4: I were a hoodie out to practice for the full time,
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  Speaker 4: how much you know, how much weight would I lose?
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  Speaker 3: What would my heart rate be? Just standing there?
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  Speaker 4: And we actually measured out. I was talking, I was,
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  Speaker 4: I was talking to some of the other but you
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  Speaker 4: were standing there. It wasn't I mean I was passionately
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  Speaker 4: arguing sometimes too, but you.
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  Speaker 3: Were standing there. I was pastially arguing.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, burned eight hundred calories, lost five pounds,
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  Speaker 4: So don't just say I was standing there. Okay, the
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  Speaker 4: heart right got up to one hundred and thirty five,
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  Speaker 4: my resting heart rate sixty.
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  Speaker 3: So I was doing some work out there, Pete.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, So so wait, so you lost five pounds just
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  Speaker 5: standing there.
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  Speaker 3: I can't stress enough you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was in it.
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of jogging a little bit, trying to
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  Speaker 4: see like the team's periods.
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  Speaker 3: They had a goal line period.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't see anything, so I had to kind of
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  Speaker 4: drag a little bit around the field to see that
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  Speaker 4: goal lion period.
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  Speaker 3: I was working out there the day.
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  Speaker 5: The day I was there at training camp is the
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  Speaker 5: hottest day in Jacksonville history, I think, or.
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  Speaker 3: One of them.
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  Speaker 5: Remember I think it was one hundred and one that
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  Speaker 5: day and JP drags me out into midfield to talk
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  Speaker 5: to the fans before before practice, and half of.
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  Speaker 2: Them hated me and half of them loved me.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that's about right, And that's what I expect.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's what you want, that's what you want. See
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  Speaker 2: right now, everybody loves Austin right the new.
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  Speaker 5: Guy comes in, former player, everybody love it, give him,
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  Speaker 5: give him a month, you know of half hating him
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  Speaker 5: and half loving them.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.
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  Speaker 3: After the first loss of the season. Guess what if, Austin,
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  Speaker 3: you're out there and uh, you know, as honest as
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  Speaker 3: you want to be, you're going to hear it from
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  Speaker 3: both sides.
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  Speaker 5: I think that defense play the other night Austin would
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  Speaker 5: have been starting even in his age.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, is.
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  Speaker 3: This overreaction, Monday Peene?
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like you, Well, look, I'm one of those guys.
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  Speaker 5: When I look at the PRECISA, I can't analyze it.
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  Speaker 5: I can't break it down. What was the Jaguars record
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  Speaker 5: the preseason last year?
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  Speaker 2: Three?
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  Speaker 5: And okay, enough set a good team, but he can't
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  Speaker 5: evaluate it. You're playing against guys that will be working
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  Speaker 5: you know in on Wall Street or bouncing at a
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  Speaker 5: bar in a couple of weeks. You know, it's just
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  Speaker 5: you can't evaluate it. It's you hope to see some things,
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  Speaker 5: little things, but the big picture evaluation cannot be done.
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  Speaker 5: It just can't be done. Now, I'll say this, that
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  Speaker 5: was a sloppy team. That team was sloppy the other
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  Speaker 5: night in a lot of ways. And you know, we
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  Speaker 5: look at the defense. Can I watched the tape this afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many times JP where the
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  Speaker 5: call is coming in and they're looking at each other,
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  Speaker 5: pointing at each other, and the Steelers are running the
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  Speaker 5: play right, I mean, they were just they were not
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  Speaker 5: in any sort of rhythm and sync at all on
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  Speaker 5: defense and it showed up and Cap Pinelli's too good
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  Speaker 5: at coach for that.
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  Speaker 2: Could be a problem.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know what the disconnect was or why
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  Speaker 5: it happened, but that was a major issue for them
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  Speaker 5: on defense the other night.
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  Speaker 4: So that was one of the things for the pregame
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  Speaker 4: show that I was gonna watch because if you know Camp,
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  Speaker 4: you know coach Camp he does in terms of schemes
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  Speaker 4: and coverages, they can be a little complicated. Now, Granted,
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  Speaker 4: it's the preseason, so it's gonna be meat and potatoes, right,
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  Speaker 4: But I did see some guys out there turn around
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  Speaker 4: kind of hands up and everything, and the ball's getting snapped,
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  Speaker 4: and I get it. Okay, it's the first preseason game,
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  Speaker 4: but I feel like some of those things, along with
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  Speaker 4: those penalties, those things.
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  Speaker 3: Can carry over to the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: So I think those are some things to be cautious
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  Speaker 4: about a little bit where you got to clean them up.
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  Speaker 4: You got to clean up the pre snap penalties, right,
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  Speaker 4: those they get cleaned up. And obviously you can't have
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  Speaker 4: guys turning around wondering what you got when you're in
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  Speaker 4: zone coverage because in the real game it's gonna happen
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  Speaker 4: even faster.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And they actually worked on that today. Pete coach
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  Speaker 3: going after practice today, was like, hey, we didn't have
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  Speaker 3: pads on. Weich had helmets. And that's what it was about.
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  Speaker 3: It was about communication. It was about all of that
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  Speaker 3: being in the right spot on defense mainly, but on
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  Speaker 3: both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Austin, you made a good point. It was
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  Speaker 2: vanilla as vanilla can be.
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  Speaker 5: And they were still having communication problem with what happens
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  Speaker 5: when it starts getting complex. I mean, that's the scary
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  Speaker 5: thing about it, because when I watched practice, I'm sure
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  Speaker 5: you guys have been out there more than me. They
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  Speaker 5: seem to really grasp it and they love it, and
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  Speaker 5: they loved the complexity of it and being able to
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  Speaker 5: show double a gap mug blitzers and backing out of
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  Speaker 5: it and dropping guys out and blitzing guys. Well, they
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  Speaker 5: didn't do any of that the other night, and they
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  Speaker 5: still had busts and really seemed to be lost at time.
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  Speaker 2: So that is a little concern.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad they went back and did a mental day
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  Speaker 5: today rather than go out and do something physical.
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  Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense. I think
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  Speaker 2: Liam Cole was smart to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Our TENTIONONEXLAM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadrick,
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  Speaker 3: Pete Prisco and Austin Lane. It's the first show of
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  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five season. How about the offensive performance.
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  Speaker 3: The starters go one drive, guys, they go twelve plays,
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  Speaker 3: field goal penalties, full start on the first play of
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  Speaker 3: the game. It's never ideal. And then the double penalty
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  Speaker 3: negated one of the Travis Hunter catches a little bit later,
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  Speaker 3: but they overcame gotten field goal range and got at
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  Speaker 3: least something down the field too, and they extended to
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  Speaker 3: drive with a fourth down play as well. That right here,
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  Speaker 3: we're looking at it on Jaguars dot Com. Overall, Austin
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  Speaker 3: from the starting offense, what did you gather if anything?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we just saw that play with Towammie Brown
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  Speaker 4: getting picked up and carried back. I've seen a couple
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  Speaker 4: of yards there. I can't believe that wasn't a full
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  Speaker 4: fledged fistfight. I feel like if you do that ten
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  Speaker 4: years ago, there's gonna be players on the sideline coming
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  Speaker 4: to have his back, man, because it's almost like the
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  Speaker 4: sign of disrespect. We picked somebody up and kind of
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  Speaker 4: carry him back a little bit. But in terms of
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  Speaker 4: this offense, the biggest question for me was what does
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence look like? And I thought for the most part,
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  Speaker 4: I thought he commanded the offense. Well, he had a
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  Speaker 4: nice pass to Breton Strange where it wasn't the first look,
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  Speaker 4: but he I think it was a second look. He
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  Speaker 4: looked calm collected back. There there was one instance where
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  Speaker 4: the pocket broke down a little bit and he took off.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the old Trevor Or. Yeah, the old Trevor
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  Speaker 4: would have probably stayed back there a little longer, try
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  Speaker 4: to make something happen, and maybe it's a fumble.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So I think overall, you didn't get the ball in
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  Speaker 4: the end zone against a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of twos, right, And that's gonna linger with that offense.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you know.
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  Speaker 4: That's something that they talked about after that game. But overall,
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  Speaker 4: I think Trevor Lawrence being the most important cog of
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  Speaker 4: that machine.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he looked pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think everything that he's worked on carried
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  Speaker 5: over to the game. The motion was quicker, the mechanics
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  Speaker 5: were better, the feet weren't as elongated, he was tighter.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was tighter, quicker, and the ball got out.
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  Speaker 5: That was what I wanted to see because he talked
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  Speaker 5: about it all offseason. You wonder, though, would it carry
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  Speaker 5: over when when guys start getting around him and hit
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  Speaker 5: trying to hit him.
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  Speaker 2: And it did. And so I think you made a
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  Speaker 2: couple points on two plays.
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  Speaker 5: The one that's strange was really that's that's big boy
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  Speaker 5: football right there. You look come over to the right,
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  Speaker 5: you open to your right, you come back and then
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  Speaker 5: you hit him in the middle of the field and
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  Speaker 5: throw a pitpoint pass where he's pretty pretty decent coverage
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  Speaker 5: on that play. That was impressive to me. That was
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  Speaker 5: a good play.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the one where he took off and ran. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't like that one, And I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 2: You go back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, here, if we go back and run this play again,
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  Speaker 5: he's got Parker Washington on a cross or if he
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  Speaker 5: wants it. He also has Travis Hunter wide open if
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  Speaker 5: he wants to throw it. And that's the first time
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  Speaker 5: I watched the All twenty two tape today. It's the
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  Speaker 5: first time we'll see Travis Hunter jumping up and down
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  Speaker 5: complaining about I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Wide open and I get the football.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't like he was mad, but he was jumping
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  Speaker 5: up and down because he's clearly wide open between the
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  Speaker 5: between the safety and the corner and.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't look at him. Now. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the progression is on that play. I imagine that's the
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  Speaker 2: last one, but he was open.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's in terms of like that internal timing, right,
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  Speaker 4: I think we're seeing a guy now that's making the
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  Speaker 4: decisions a little quicker.
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  Speaker 3: If he doesn't see what he likes, he takes off.
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  Speaker 4: Could he have hit that shot, absolutely, but he did
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  Speaker 4: get three yards out of it.
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  Speaker 3: Now you know, it wasn't a game changing run by
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  Speaker 3: any The only thing he don't No, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to see if head first diving crazy in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: But don't you Washington. He had Parker Washington on the
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  Speaker 2: little crosser in that scenario. Give it to him. Take
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  Speaker 2: yourself out of the equation.
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  Speaker 5: Give him the ball Parker Washington takes to hit, not
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  Speaker 5: your star quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's why I think he should have gone there, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to retrain that though.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it was better. It was better. It was quicker,
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  Speaker 2: the motion was quicker, the mechanics were quicker.
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  Speaker 5: He seemed comfortable, the ball got out. It was it
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  Speaker 5: was different. It looked different, and he looked different. I
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  Speaker 5: think that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think we can also celebrate too that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in terms of the screen game, which has been lacking.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, I don't know the past decade, maybe
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  Speaker 4: since I hadn't played. In terms of screens and everything,
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  Speaker 4: I thought they showcased a couple of screens. That's obviously
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  Speaker 4: gonna be a staple in that Liam Cohen offense. And
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  Speaker 4: Travis Etn had one the Jets sweep to to Dowmmy Brown,
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  Speaker 4: which I'm not sure if you want to show that
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  Speaker 4: in the preseason, but it looked great.
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  Speaker 3: Prepare for it. You got it on tape.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you go to practice, if you go
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  Speaker 5: to practice, they run that player.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's you've seen it, right. I love I like that call.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's a quick you know, you think you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: hand it off inside and you get a quick, easy
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  Speaker 5: turn and give him the back and he's around the corner.
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  Speaker 3: It's easy.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I'm with you on the screen game. I think
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  Speaker 5: that's something they need to get back to. And Etn
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  Speaker 5: is pretty good the screen game. I'll say this about
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  Speaker 5: the running back position and we get we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Get into the I just there's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But again, I like the offense.
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  Speaker 5: I like the you know, it was very critical design
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  Speaker 5: of the offense last year.
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  Speaker 2: I hated it.
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  Speaker 3: He loves buble screen. I know, Austin, you're new, welcome
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  Speaker 3: to the show. You Pete loves bubble screens.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well, I don't mind bubble screens, but not when
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  Speaker 5: you're run thirty five of them again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, left right one.
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  Speaker 5: They're one series where they ran a bubble screen to
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  Speaker 5: the right, a bubble screen to the left, and came
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  Speaker 5: back and ran another one did the right last year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just got to get created to get
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  Speaker 2: the ball down the field. I think they will get
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  Speaker 2: the ball down the field eventually.
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  Speaker 5: You didn't show a lot of that the other night,
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  Speaker 5: but they will get it down the field.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Plenty ahead, We got plenty of time to
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: dig into this a little bit more. The running back room.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Apparently Pete wants to dig in there. I'm all about it.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: That's a competitive group.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: I think, or competitive should it be?
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, ah, that's the thought. We'll get to that coming up.
• 14:37
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• 14:40
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• 14:44
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  Speaker 6: It takes us just coming in being ourselves every day,
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: being through to ourselves. As far as we obviously know
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: it's a physical sport. We all want to come up
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: with are the physical. But at the end of the day,
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: it's either you're gonna win or you're gonna lose. I
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: don't nobody want to lose, So coming there with that mindset,
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: I feel like as far as with our defensive perspective,
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: we want to be physical, we want to stop and run,
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: and that's our main focus.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: First. That is Trayvon Walker earlier today after practice discussing
• 15:44
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• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Go CBS Sports Senior writer as always down in South
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Florida and good to hear from Trayvon Walker there. And
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: you know, he didn't get many snaps in the game,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: but I think his point is good. You have certain
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: things you want to do as a defensive Pete. It
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: feels like you really get an identity once you play
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: some real football games. That's when you're really gonna find
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: out what it is.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: But he talked about stopping the run. The Steelers didn't
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: run at all. I mean they weren't. They weren't very
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: good at all run of the football. So I think, yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: they have to they have to be better against a run.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: Let's be real, the way they're constructed right now on
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: the offense defensive side of the ball, they're not good
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: enough to stop the run in a regular season game
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: with what they have on the field. Defensively, I don't
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: think they need they need Armstead on the field. They
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: need Mason Smith on the field. They need those guys playing.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: You know, Armstead, I hadn't played at all one How
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: long has he been out.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Now, I mean a fit actually, I think probably about
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: a week or so with the back injury.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: But he was father than that because he wasn't practicing
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: when I was there.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: That's right. But then all of a sudden he sits
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: out the scrimmage and that's when a lot of people
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: notice for the first time, I think, And then they said, oh,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: he's got a sore back.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Well, here's something that and I'm not just saying that
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: His situation, but I'm going to say this as a.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Big picture of the National Football League right now, Injured
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: and hurt are two different things. And we're seeing a
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: lot of guys sit out with stuff that back in
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: the day, even when Austin played, they might have played
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: and practice.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And so you go all around this league right now,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: there are so.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Many guys sitting out practice all across the league.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I mean it's incredible.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Every stop I've been to, this guy's not practiced with
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: twelve guys out this week, this day.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So I'm concerned.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Armstead right now is a major issue for that team,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: as Smith is a major issue for this team.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: They have to be on the field.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: What we saw the other night, did you see any Austin?
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Did you see anything from the defensive interior?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So this would make no not at all.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: And this is really my biggest takeaway from this defense
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: right now, Like it doesn't matter if you have the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: bookends on the outside with with Trayvon Walker and Joshua
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: hinz Allen, your defense will only be as good as
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: your interior defenders in terms of defensive tackles allow you
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: to be and right now it seems to be lacking.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: And if you want to talk about Eric Armstead and
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: you want to talk about the back injury, I mean,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I think Jaygars fans have a little PTSD in terms
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: of back injuries around this place.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: From you know, years ago and everything.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: So like that, that just that and in general doesn't
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: sound good. And obviously, being the preseason, we don't know
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: the extent of these injuries right We don't know what's
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: going on with Mason Smith right now. But I would
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: think that if Eric Armistead could truly practice, I hope
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: that he would because keep in mind, I understand that
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: he had a very you know, he had a great
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: career in San Francisco. You know the prior GM brings
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: him over here. He plays out a position for the
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: most part last year with the old defensive coordinator. They
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: get a new regime and everything. But if I'm Merrick Armstead,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I want to make that good first impression because as
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, James Gladstone, UH coach Camp, coach Comb,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: they don't know, they don't owe me anything. Like as
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, I still have to prove myself.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: So you know, if it's a lingering injury where it's
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: kind of here, I would hope that he you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: it's a serious injury where he can't be out there,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: because if there's if you're teeter tottering, you probably should
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: be out there. And as far as Mason Smith's concerned,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: you know, everything that I've heard is he was you know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: he was training really hard during the offseason.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Has this injury. We're not sure how long he is
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: going to be out of But.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, in this coach camp defense,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: you can have all the different coverages you want, but
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: you can't make up for deficiencies on the interior defensive line.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I will say this about Mason Smith, the guy's peete.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: It's you know, he's been working off to the side
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: out in the open practices.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: What injury.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It looks like lower body. One of his lower legs
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: is wrapped. They haven't said officially what it is.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like hockey now. They're just a lower
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: lower dud.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: But you're right though, also because I heard the same
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: stuff that he had been just a madman all off
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: season and he'd gotten into really good shape, and they
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: were counting on him being a big part.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Of what they were going to do.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: So it has to be this one has to be
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: frustrating for him personally.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And the team. Armstead is a veteran. Camp ain't fun.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's be real. Camp isn't fun. Nobody likes it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: But I'm not saying he's jaking it because I don't know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: and we don't know the extent of the injury.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And teams, by.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: The way, do it players disserviced by not telling you
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: what the injury is?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: What?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: What exactly is his injury? Is it a disc injury?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Is it just a tweak in the back?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: And so now what's out there is where? And they're
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: speculating on is.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: He jaking it or not right?
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: And so if I'm Eric Armstead, I'm going in front
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: of everybody saying, look.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Dude, this is what my injury is. I have a
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: disc herniated disc or whatever it is. If he does
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: have that, then say it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: We the NFL has become so paranoid about the injuries,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: but then they don't ever look at the other.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Side of it. It exposes him.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: It opens them up to criticism that maybe he doesn't
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: deserve right if he has a bat a truly a
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: herniated disc or something wrong with his back, he should
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: say it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Fair. I mean, it's fair.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I feel like, now with
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: social media and everything, if something truly was wrong, what's
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: to stop a player from just going on online.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: And he's got his own podcast. I mean, like, listen,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Like calling him out for jaking.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I love this guy already.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: No, But I mean, I think if it is serious,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: if it was me, right, and obviously I'm the modern
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: era NFL player, right, so I'm watching everything, I'm putting
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: my name in Twitter and I'm searching it up, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing what people are saying about me.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Well, what they're saying about me now probably isn't the
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: most positive, right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: So if that's the case, then I'm gonna go maybe
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: against coaches wishes of hey keep on the dot. No,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, here's what's going on. I'm actually
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: hurt and hopefully I'll be back soon. Like that's that's
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: what I would say. It could be cryptic, It could
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: have some rap lyrics to it too, if you want
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: to do that, because a lot of players are into that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: But whatever the case may be.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna put something out there to let people
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: know exactly what's going on.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: But you know, you talk about it, go against coaches wishes.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: I remember back in the day when Coughlin used to
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: tell players, don't say anything.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: About your injuries. And I remember walking up to Hardy Nickerson.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I go, how's your leg? He goes, well, I'm not
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: allowed to talk about it. I go, it's your leg.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: It's your damn leg. It's not their leg, it's your leg.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It's Eric arch Send's back.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think what's going on with him
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: because you know, you hear it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: You guys live near I've heard a bunch of it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of fans out there who are
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: questioning his heart and desire right now to be on
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the field, and as long as in Austin as well.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, I.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Look rightfully so, because they'd exposed him to that, you
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: should just make it go away.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He can make it go away. They can make it
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: go away. What's the damn injury? And how long is
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: he going to be out? Not just let where is
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: he he's not practicing? You know, what I mean, it
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: just leaves it open.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Fred Taylor's injury was legitimate, clearly, I mean, the thing
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: was off the bone, but they all called him day
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: to day back then, right, Pete, instead of just saying
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: what it was.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: As soon as it happened, he was day to day.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: And that thing was ripped off the bone so badly
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: that it looked like he got shot with a sniper,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: you know. And that's how bad it was. And he
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: dropped the ball. Fred dropped the ball, He fumbled. That's
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: how bad that was day to day. And so what
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: happened with Fred Taylor is it became well, why is
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: any back?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: He's day to day? Why is he back? Well, the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: thing was ripped off the bone. This is this We
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: don't know if this is the same type of scenario.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: But that's the point.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Two things are at play here.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: There's only two things.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Either he's really hurt and they need to say it,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: or he needs to say it, or he's not really
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: hurt and they're frustrated like crazy the fact that he
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: isn't practicing. That's the only two things at play here.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: So neither one is great, by the way.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: No, but Pete, even in the fact, because listen, the
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: the MO of this organization, this regime, whether we're talking
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: about James Gladstone, talking about Tony Basselli or head coach
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen, them has been to keep everybody in the
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: loop right to kind of peel the curtain back a
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: little bit and take us behind there, Like, are you
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: a little surprised that we don't know what's going on
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: right now? Because when Week one starts, we'll know. So
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: what competitive advantage do you have right now by kind
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: of keeping it, you know, under wraps, not telling anybody
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: from a couple of weeks down the line, when it's
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: week when you're playing Carolina, then we'll all know.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Could tell you I was around a couple of different
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: spots and and you know, people talking this league and
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: they're they're looking for a defensive they're looking I mean,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: you know, they're the people may they know the Jaguars
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: are looking so and they signed one. I mean, they
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: did sign one, right, so they need more. And if
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: if Armstead and Smith aren't around that group that's right
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: there on the field right now, isn't good enough?
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: Just isn't.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: We've got plenty ahead. We'll return and get in the
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: running back room. We'll see who Austin's gonna accuse of
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: something in that room coming up.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Pete's it gets not even a half hour in.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: The team's doing that to them or he's doing it
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to himself, one or the other. Austin's not wrong.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Austin's gonna fit in just fine, I think on this show.
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  Speaker 7: Ultimately, it's something that takes no talent to do, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: you know, we can't beat anybody. This is something we've
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: been preaching for a long time since we arrived, was
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: we cannot start to beat people until we stop beating ourselves.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: And that has remained pretty consistent since February or wherever
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: it's been so Yeah, frustrating for sure.
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• 27:17
  Speaker 3: running backs Travis et and Junior officially got the start
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: on the Saturday night. He played twelve snaps in the game.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby fifteen snaps in the game, with Quinn Allen
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: the rookie sixteen the base Shoal Teuton had twenty and Jackson,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the other rookie, had two snaps in the game. And
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: in terms of their production in the running department, Bigsby
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: six for twenty four, Tooton six for twenty four in
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: a touchdown, Etn two for six had some passing game work,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and Touton had a couple catches in the passing game. So, Pete,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: we've been waiting anxiously for your take on the running
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: back room.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Well, because the entire offseason, everybody kept saying that Bigsby
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: was going to be the start arting running back and
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I never bought that.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Why But I also no, I just don't think I don't.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Look, he's a nice runner, he's a puff runner, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: What they need at running back.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I don't think Etn is the guy either. I think
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Twton will be their starting running back. Now might not
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: happen on the first game, but at some point it'll happen.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: And here's why we saw that the other night. The
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: reason why not you're playing a preseason game. So, but
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: you've seen glimpses of it this entire when he's been
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: on the field. I know he's digged up a little bit.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: There was a play, and I'm gonna start with Etn.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: There was a play early in that game where he
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: took a hand off and right tackle Anton Harrison just
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: blew his guy down the line and all Etn.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Had to do.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: And I'm thinking about Fred Taylor and his heyday put
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: his foot in his put in the ground and pop
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: it behind that block as he drives it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: He beat him so badly.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: He's down the left, He's on the left side of
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: the line. That's how he caved it in. It was
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: and he runs for about twenty yards and instead he
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: ran smack dab into the guy that Anthon Harrison was blocking.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Didn't didn't cut, didn't try and pop outside, didn't try
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: and go that way, went right into him. Later in
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: the game, when tots in the game and the backup
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: lines in the game, there was a handoff in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: middle of the field that I don't remember the exact
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: yard age he was but it was a six yard
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: run I think he had where he started to.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: The right and popped it to the left. You saw
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: a little juice in there, a little cutback ability.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Then later on when he scored that touchdown, there was
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: a little juice and a little power.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: The power wasn't in his in his scouting report, honestly.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: But if you went back and watch his college tape,
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: there was more of that than you see. I loved
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: him coming out. He was one of my favorite guys.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: In fact, three of their rookies were on my annual
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Better than team right twenty guys that I like better
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: than the scouts. He was one of them, and the
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: other two were the two offensive linemen who might have
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: been as good as any of the offensive linemen on
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: the field the other night. Mannheim was terrific at left
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: guard when he was on the field, and I thought
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: he would be a center, but he was really good
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: the other night and left guard.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And Mylam was.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: The other one who played it right tackle and left
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: tackle and was good in those situations. So but Twoton,
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: to me, gives him what the other two guys don't,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: the ability to take a run front side and be
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: able to take it backside the.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Other guy's run right at it. You agree with me, Austin,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a lot of wiggle.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say this with Etn.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that pre season game, you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: he didn't show the best vision, and if you want
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: to be a great back in this league, you have
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: to have the vision. I did hear rumblings that everyone
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: was on tanking biggsby be in the starting running back.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I never bought that either, because I think what Liam
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Cohen's looking for here in terms of the backfield is versatility.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: If you think back to last year, if you had
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Bucky Irving, Rashad White, well, what can they do well?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: They can well, Bucky every Moore can run, run between
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: the tackles. He's also a great receiver. And the one
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: knock on Bigsby is is how dependable is he in
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the receiving game. And I think he's one of those
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: guys where if you see him in the backfield, okay,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be power, it's gonna be inside zone. But
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: he's not gonna scare us in the screen games. He's
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: not gonna scare us, you know, doing a wheel orut
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: anything like that. So I think it's gonna be some
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: combination of ETN and Twuton. I think with Tuton obviously
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: right now it's can you take care of the football,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: which is the most important thing, right and and time
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: will tell with that once he gets those true game experience.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: But I think we're gonna see a running back by
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: committee for the first couple of weeks see how they do.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: But my money right now is on Traves CTM being
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: you started running back until proven otherwise I would agree.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I think on opening day he will be the running back.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: It just becomes a matter of when Tooton takes over
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: as the guy. And you mentioned the fumbling because he
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: had fumbling problems at Virginia Tech, but he also fumbled
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: on the first day he was here, I guess, in
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: mini camp, and that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Opened him up. But since that he's been really good
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: with the football.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: And you know, Tiki Barber once was a fumbler and
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: he kind of cured himself of that. Coauughland kind of
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: cured himself, cured him of that, and he wasn't He
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: wasn't a fumbler after that.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: So I just think holme run, pop put back ability.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I think they're both there with him.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: And the fact that he did show the power, that's
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: a good thing because that's.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: The one thing you were you know, I did see
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: it at Virginia Tech, but running with power in college
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: is totally different.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: To see it a little bit, even in his first
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: game in a preseason game is good to see too well.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: And I was pleasantly surprised by that because I'll be honest,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I wasn't watching a lot of ACC football last year.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, you have to you have to.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Sec where it just means a little more right and Obviously,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I'm from Wisconsin. I'm a big ten guy, so I
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: wasn't really, you know, too intrigued with Tutons game in
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: terms of running football between the tackles. But he showed
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: me something there and I was excited for that because
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: then it got me thinking, Okay, well, what is Liam
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: cohen ZMO?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: What does he like to do?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: He likes those two back formations, you know that twenty
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: one personnel twenty personel. I think he calls a pony package.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, or that's what he called it in Tampa.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: So now if you have a combination of Tuton and
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: travesy Etn back there, I'm all for. And maybe you
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: throw Tank Bigsby in that mix as well. But like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: and I'm without getting too much x's and o's here.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I remember when Green Bay used to run this back
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: in the day with AJ Dillon, and I would have
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: been Aaron Jones, and teams got keen to it because
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: you saw, okay, well we got AJ Dillon, who's like
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty pounds.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: He's not going to be that receiver, so we set
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: the strong side to him.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: We have a linebacker account for Obviously, the passing of
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Aaron Jones will go from there. Same thing happened in
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Dallas when you had Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard. Ezekie
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Elliott's the guy between the tackles and then you have
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Tony Pollard was.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: The receiving back.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Well, then you go to Indianapolis and you have Jonathan
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Taylor and you have nim Hines. That kind of changed
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: the game a little bit because Taylor can be a
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: receiver as well. So now you had two essentially receivers
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: in the backfield causing mismatches. I think Liam con can
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: do that exact same thing here. He did it obviously
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay. And if you have etn if you
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: have Tuton back there, that could be a mismatch nightmare.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Here's and you're right, but here's part of the equation
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: that we don't know. In Tampa Bay, Rashad White's one
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: of the best third down blockers in the NFL.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: He'll put his nose right in there.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: The criticism of Ethen is he doesn't isn't great in
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: pass protection.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: We don't know if Tuton can do it, he might
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: be willing. Do you know who can do it? Alan
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: can do it?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: He is not scared of contact.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: He will stick his and by the way, he can
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: catch the ball out of the backfield too. I mean,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: I just think if you look at the big picture
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: for this team going forward, ETN is probably not going
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: to be here next.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Year, right, I mean, no, he's not gonna get a
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: second contract, you would think, especially with all these draft
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: picks they just got this year.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, so you got to start peaking at some point
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: the season. You got to start peaking ahead. I'm not
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: to say that you start, but I think you still
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: have to win the job.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, would have to win the job or whatever.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But I think their future is tooton. That's where I'm
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: at with that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: I think he's their future, and it might be sooner
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: rather than later.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I love home runs, but you know, I love though
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the big play and he gives them that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Could ETN force their hand into another contract though somehow
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: with like a monster year or is that just too much? No?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: No, he is a running back.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: There's no way he's getting another contract, right. No, No,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: not when you draft two and there's a million of
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: them out there.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So no, he's not getting another contract. And by the way, the.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: James Cook contract. He hasn't got a contract yet from
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: the Bills. They've offered him a deal from what I heard,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: twelve million year. You gonna pay, You gonna pay ETN
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: twelve million.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: They're paying them six and a half right now.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Pete, Well, they're paying James Cooked five and a half.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna go from five and a half. You're
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: not gonna go from six and a half to twelve
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: with ETN.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: You're just not gonna do that. So you gotta start
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: peeking ahead. It's a cruel reality NFL. He was drafted
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: in the first round, had lived up to it. Not
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: going to get a second contract as a runner in Jacksonville,
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: He's just not.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: He kind of thought that was might be trending the
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: other way with the success of a couple of the
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: big name guys. Say one, right, all that, but it's
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: still the business of the league. And what is it
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: with running backs here?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Two man doesn't matter if they're undrafted free agentsy like
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: a James Robinson or Traves etm like they have like
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: those breakout seasons where it's like this is gonna be
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: the guy for the next decade, it seems like, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: then you know they.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Fall off a little bit. Wow, yeah, serious, what you know?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: What you do?
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: You know what the cruel reality in the NFL is
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: you draft them, you run them into the ground, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: after four years you draft another one.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I say, there are millions of them out there, and
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: in certain situations you can.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You can if you have the good offensive line, they're
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: gonna run the football. No, there aren't Barclays out there.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: There are guys like that dark Derek Henry's out there,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: but there are there aren't James Cooks out there. Let's
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: be real, and so you got to ask yourself because
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: he worth twelve million dollars a year.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Let's come back in a moment and we'll get into
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the specialists. Cam little from seventy the other night. How
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: do we open up with that? Oh, he had other
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: stuff to talk about.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: This is a kicker, kicker, that's why.
• 37:30
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• 37:46
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• 37:57
  Speaker 3: was a special moment.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think the group, you know, not only
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: the specialist I realized how how cool that was.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: But you saw the team just get.
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: Behind Cam and they realized how talented he is and
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: the type of person he is, so they love him
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: to death. And you can just see that the excitement
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: not only for the for the team, but for him
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: and in our group. So pretty cool moment. Obviously it's preseason,
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: you know, we understand that, but it was so cool
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: to be a part of that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Seeth Farwell, the Jaguars special teams coordinator, after practice today,
• 38:30
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• 38:34
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• 38:40
  Speaker 3: yard field goal for Cam Little the end of the half.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: They set it up, they get to play. They banged
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the time out and Leam Cohen looked over and Cam
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, let's go for it, and he got
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: it by about three yards. Austin, Yeah, it's wild, man,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: not wild.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: From the fact that I took after the Jaguars game
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: is the past year or so, the big story's always
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: been like, Ah, the punter or the kicker, right, and
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: then no difference here because this was a trending topic,
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: as it should have been. But unreal kick, man. You know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: it's shame that happened in the preseason. It's not gonna
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: officially count. There's an asterisk next to it. But nevertheless,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: he's keeping that game ball for a reason, man, because
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: that was amazing.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: You know, he's the best fourteen year old kicker I've
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: ever seen.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: It's amazing till he drives a carnelievable.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: He looks he's just some babyface candy booms the hell out.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Of the ball.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: You know what the problem with this is now, anytime
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: in the game they get like inside seventy yards, the
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: fans are gonna be clamoring for a field goal, right,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: no matter what you have four right, if.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: It's a sixty five yard or round. He made it
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: from seventy, don't worry kick it. What are you gonna do?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: You gotta kick it. But boy, he's got a big leg.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: It must be nice.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: And as much as I rip on special teams, and
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: believe me, I rip on them, you know, I told
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur the other day what I always say about
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: a kicker.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: If I was a head coach. We sit in the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: green room when they miss him on Sundays, and I go,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: if I were the head coach, I'd walk over there
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and choke.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, I really wouldn't, but I'd say that, you know,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: and because that's your only job in life is to
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: make your damn kicks.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I say it all the time, make.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Your da all the time. You say that, make your
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: damn kicks.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, those guys that barstool actually made a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: T shirt out of that and started selling it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: By the way, I think I would never see anything
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: from Marvin Meyer anything, not one thing, zero. But when
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: you look at their kicking game, no worries at all,
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: zero worries. And that's always nice. So that's reassuring. But
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: the kid's a great kicker, and and he's only scratching
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: the surface.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Having said that, we've seen kickers who are just unbelievably
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: good for short periods of time and then next thing
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: you know, you look over you go, what the hell
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: happened to him?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Think back to the history of this league and and
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a couple of examps. Remember when
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Jason Myers was in Jacksonville, ye right, big leg and.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Boom it boom. It didn't work out well.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Then he goes when he went to the Jets, No
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Jets first was it?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Jets first didn't work out? Then Seattle.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: He becomes a guy that doesn't miss kicks, and then
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: you wonder when that's gonna go bad, because it goes bad.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: But this kid hasn't even scratched the surface yet of
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: what he is as a kicker.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: So he's a great weapon.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: You don't want to use him because he's a field
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: goal kicker, but it's a great weapon that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I mean when it comes down to kickoffs as well,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: you got you've got to place it in certain spots.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: He's been pretty good at that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: This league has made the placing of the field of
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: the of the kickoff such a challenge now because I
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: hate these stupid rules.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and played football.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah that was the thirty five right? Is that? What
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: was thirty five? Ridiculous kickers anything?
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: And it's funny too, man, because I talked to Josh
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Scobey today and funny story about Josh Scobey. He was
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: actually in the bathroom. So he went to the game
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: obviously went to the bathroom before halftime. And actually missed
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: that kick and then came back and obviously was astonished.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: But uh, listen to him rant about just like the
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: new rule changes, how they're not helping kickers, man. I mean,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: he was. He was personally a victim, I feel like.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: And he hasn't been in the game for a couple
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: of years now, man, but he was still pretty kicked
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: off about it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: You know, the Jaguars had actually had good kickers in
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: their history. Mike Hollis there was the original kicker, was
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: a good kicker. Scobe was a good kicker. Now they
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: had a couple of years where they didn't where they
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: didn't quite work out.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Didn't quite I had to burn some sage at the
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: stadium to try to, you know, get rid of that
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: curse for a while.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I feel like with this team in kickers.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Who was your kickers when you were there? It was Kobe,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: So you were good.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: And by the way, I knew how big of a
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: deal Scoby was when I first got to the league
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: my rookie year.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: His ego.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Break the dude who was driving an Aston Martin. Okay,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: that's exactly you're driving an Aston Martin. You're doing something right,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: But and without getting into too much details, I actually
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: prevented somebody from fighting Josh Scoby one time because somebody
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: pulled a prank in the locker room and they asked
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: me who did it, and I knew who it was,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Josh Scoby, and I wouldn't give him up because I
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: knew Scoby was a cat and he was that big
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: of a deal. So I got in a fight in
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: the in a cold tub literally my first week of
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: training camp. Uh, just to defend Josh Scoby's honor and
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: not put his name out.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Who'd you fight? We named names on this show, we
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: named names.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Who'd you fight?
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think you guys remember him or not.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I don't girl, yea who won? He's doing good?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Uh you know what, man, let's go and call that
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: a drug. It's a cold tub, A cold tub before
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: him throw trying to survive.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: I hope you were naked, but but yeah, the bottom
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: line is the kickers are they're their own breed. In fact,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: speaking of jahway, when I was in Green Bay, McManus
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: was there and somebody had told me that the day
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: before I got there, the guys in the media were in.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: The locker room talking about how in the old days.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Somebody would let him in, or you know, he was
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: staying in the locker room too long, or somebody they
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: weren't talk about the packers, and he started screaming, all right,
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: you guys, get out of here, now, get out of here. Now,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: we've got enough of you, like in a typical kicker manner.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: And I said, you should have turned to him and said,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: you're a kicker, crappy you think.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: And then he came over, and I happened to be
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: leaning on the ball you know where they put the
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: balls for the kickers come over, and he comes over
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: and he just has this kicker jackass mentality about them.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a good description.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna sit there thinking, your only job in
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: life is to make your damn kicks, and it just
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: quit acting like you're somebody special.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Now, if I'm not mistaken.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: He had a little reputation to of being kind of
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: a pain in the ass when he was Jacksonville too, right.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: But remember he got in trouble too later after the fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: You know, so look, some Scoffy's a good dude. I've
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: know Scooby long Scobe's a good dude. He's one of
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the good, good guy kickers. My Collins was a good
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: dude too, didn't it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: But for the most part, kickers have a little bit
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: of an attitude.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I would say around the NFL.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: It is you can't make a seventy yard kick without
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: a great operation getting to the kick itself either. So
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: let's point out Ross Mattisik, who's an All Pro and
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl long snapper, not just snapping the ball, run
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: down the field and make a tackle and force a
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: fumble if he needs to. A good loving cooks fantastic.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: That's why that group, the coaching staff of the special
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: teams is back, because you think is so organized, the
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: coverage game's good. They've got great specialists, and that goes
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: a long way, you know.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I think it's something like these past couple years, you
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: haven't really appreciated it because you know, they haven't won
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of games, right, But when it comes down
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: to you know, whether you're the punch your logan Cook
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: pinning the ball with in the ten yard line when
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: the game's on the line, or you're kicking that game
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: winning field goal, then people remember it, right And hopefully
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: this year when we're talking about close games. The Jaguars
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: can win some of those, and we're celebrating the special
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: teams a little more because it is rare to have
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: I think a puncher like Logan Cook who is so elite,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: and then you have a guy now with you know this,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: this kicker kicking seventy yards. I mean, he's well on
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: his way to being elite as well, So hopefully they
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: can keep that going.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: What about the returner though, that's that's you know, where's
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: your where's your returner?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington?
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean and he did a good job
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: last year too, So if he ends up being better
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: even than he was a year ago, then you have
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: all of them.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: You have all you know, because I think they're they're
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: covered units.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: You saw the Lane kids going to be a hell
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: of a player on special teams.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: That's why they drafted him. So the special team should
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: be fine. You need.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: I don't think you'll be worried about the special teams,
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: but if the special teams is your best unit.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: It is an issue. Let's come back in a moment.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Our two of the program is next Fanatics, Fan Questions
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: and more. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: Loans Alignment assignment, getting our cleats in the ground when
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: we have a call on both sides of the ball,
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: you know, uh fundamentals. We did a forty play alignment
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: assignment period of just getting the call, getting our cleats
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: in the ground, making loud guttural communication, getting the calls
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: in quickly. That was what we were really kind of
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: focusing on from an emphasis standpoint.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Obviously, some of.
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: These guys are gonna be a little bit soler that
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: played a lot snaps in the game, so we were
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: trying to really hone in on the mind. Got conditioning
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: out of it kind of as well. So that was
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: kind of the thought of today.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: That's head coach Liam Cohen, this afternoon or this morning
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: after the morning practice, Welcome back. It's the second hour
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: of Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Before the game, after the game, and during the game, JP, Shadrick,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Pete Prisco, Austin Lane and the Jaguars dropped the first
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: preseason game thirty one to twenty five to the Steelers.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Jaguars offense got one drive. The defense also had one drive.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter, who haven't even really talked about yet. A
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: lot had eighteen snaps, ten on offense, eight on defense.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Cam Little hit a seventy yard field goal with room
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: to spare at the end of the first half. The
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Jags do have work to get done this week, getting
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: ready for preseason Week two against the Saints that's coming
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: up Sunday at Super Dome, and the Jags are planning
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: on having a scrimmage type feel on Thursday on the
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: practice field. And we got to first look at the
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: coaching staff, operation and everything in game for the first
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: time and it just felt like there guys that just
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: hearing Liam Cohen today, now we haven't been around him enough,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I guess a little bit to really dig into his
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: psyche of what he's feeling in his tone. But he
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: felt a little perturbed. I would say it's probably a
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: good word, Pete, coming out of that game with the
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: way they were missing some things alignment assignment, cleats in
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: the ground, can guttural communication or things. Those are the basics.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: It felt a little perturbed to me. What do you think?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and rightfully saw you should have been. I mean again,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I watched the All twenty two.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Today and I can't tell you how many ties, particularly defense,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: you see guys spinning around, pointing around, looking around.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And there were mistakes on the offense. And I like
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: the fact that.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: He took accountability for the throat of Brian Thomas play call.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have called him out a play.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: And you know what, when I was watching that play,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: I said to myself, I said, there's no other option
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: there for him to throw the football. It's play action,
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: turn around and throw to him. You got to get
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: that safety to hold a little bit. He doesn't even
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: there's a guy out there, but he's not really running
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: around that will threat in the safety. So there's no
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: real threat for the safety. So this safety makes a
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: bee line right there. I mean, should Brian Thomas have
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: caught the ball, probably, And I guess he's dropped some
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: in training camp too, which is concerning. But but again,
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: the design of the play wasn't very good. You gotta
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: you know, if they had run they were I think
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: they were single high safety and they run, you know,
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: a couple of verticals up the field and make that
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: safety pick one, you're gonna get.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Through the other one.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: So it's just I liked he the fact that he
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: took accountability on that play because he kind of.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: He had no choice.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: That's the throw on that play, that's the throw, and
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: he made a good throw.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: He just has to catch it, and he got blasted
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: on him.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: But I think today was a bad day for the
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: for the team in terms of ugly from what happened
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: the other day.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Kind of fix it and try and fix it.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Ye couldn't that throw by Trevor Lawrence still be a
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: little better, Maybe be a little lower to protect his
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: wide receiver a little more, because I almost felt like,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: you know, Brian Thomas Tree had extend himself and it
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: left him a little more open to take that big shot.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe just a little bit better. But again, I
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: think if he peaks to the right when he opens,
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: you know, once he does that play fake, he turns
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: back around. If he just peaks for a second to
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: the right and comes back, he holds that safety for
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: a second because there is a guy out there, but
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: he doesn't really threaten nobody. Still, if you look that way,
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: you might hold him. That guy made a bee line
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: right as soon as he turned around. He made a
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: bee line for him. So, yeah, there was a bunch
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: of things that play there. The throw wasn't perfect, probably
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: should have been caught still, but no matter what happens,
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: he was getting hit.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I don't care if he put the if he put
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: it right right where it's supposed to be, he's going
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: to get hit.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Pete. To your point about BTJ and practice, it does
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: feel like that a little bit to me also, And
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: some of the practices there's the ball in the ground
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: a lot. Sometimes he's a couple of days, but so far,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: when the lights have turned on, he's proven that he
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: can turn into a productive, worry about it, solid player? Right,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: So how concern? You're not? None? Zero?
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: But like the day I was there, I remember I
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: talked to a couple of coaches and they were talking
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: about how they had been winning fifty to fifty.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Balls on offense.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: And it's fair that's.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: That's a concern.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: So yeah, there's concern, But for him, what's the lights
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: go on?
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Not worried about it at all.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe it's because the defensive backs are improved this year, Austin,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: So you look at it from the defensive perspective.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, that could be the case, but
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: now the defensive backs, I think it's a giant question
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: Mark as well, because Tyson Campbell maybe out for a
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: little bit. We're not sure the extent of the injury,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: because once again, we're in the preseason mode, right, so
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: let's keep things under wraps a little bit to the
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: regular season to find out what's going on there. And
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, you know, with that preseason game
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: against the Steelers, I came away thinking, Travis Hunter is
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: your best cornerback. He's your best cornerback that you have
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: right now. And I get it wasn't a flawless performance,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: right He had that mistackle, maybe one of those you know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: welcome to the NFL rookie kind of plays.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: But but there's somebody who's behind him to clean it up.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: It doesn't break the corner.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Well, he was you know what I here right though,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: But you know what I loved about it. He got
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: up and he was he banged his helmet, he was
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: mad at himself for missing that tack.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but but he is their best corner So go aheady, No,
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: I was.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Gonna say, you're You're right.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: Campbell has had a great From everything I've heard, he
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: has been outstanding in training camp.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: They were raving about him. He wasn't very good the
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: other night though, Yeah, and he wasn't great that night.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: You know, it's been really good in camp though, too.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Is Jordan Lewis.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: He has been Yeah, And Jordan Lewis is kind of
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: but you know he's he's playing that spot, he's playing
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: that nickel, right, So and then you have Jerryon Jones
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: the other side, who was playing nickel last year and
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: now is I mean he's played cornerback before obviously, right,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: but like he's he's asking to do something different this year. So,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, if these are the conversations that we're having,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: and we're not sure how long Tyson can AM's going
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: to be out for.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Hopefully it's a couple of weeks, but we.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Don't know right now, and he's had a history absolutely
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: of injuries. I mean, I understand that the m O
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: right now is to get Travis Hunter all the reps
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: on offense and then work him in in the defense.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: But if I'm coach camp right now, I'm thinking, well,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: you guys got Park of Washington over there. He looked
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: pretty good. He's having a great training camp. Can we
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: get Travis Hunter a little more on defense please? Because
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: he's the best one that we have right now at corner.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: See, I think Travis Hunter is going to play every
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: snap on corner. I think that's their plan, and no
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: matter what, that's their plan.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't believe that at first.
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: I thought, but they were trying to get him up
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: to speed on offense because it's harder to learn how
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: to play the offense. And then he's going to be
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: the starting corner. I think their ideal scenario would be Campbell,
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: Hunter and Lewis as their starting corners, and then he'll
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: spot him in for forty snaps or whatever on offense
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: or thirty whatever it is on offense, because they're a
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: better offense when he's on offense too, And so that's ideally.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: But you're right, he's their best. He's he has the
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: chance to be an elite cover corner in the NFL.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: Ball skills are amazing, and so you need that more
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: than you need a wide receiver.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Parker Washington.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: So I think he plays every snap on defense and
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: forty snaps thirty to forty snaps on offense.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: That's what I think.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Do you think that's adjusted over time? Peter has that
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: kind of been the plan for them all along, they
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: just kind of kept it under wraps.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I think that was the plan all along.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: I think I think you play him on offense to
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: learn the offense and get comfortable with the offense because
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: it's harder to do. I mean, Austin is a defensive guy.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to hear that, but that's the reality.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Of it, right, Yeah, you're breaking any news man defense.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: It's cool. It was like this, hey, But to.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Be fair, though, I had a higher Wonderlic score than
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: We're all good. Yeah, higher than Tim Tebow. So to
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: take that for how you won, well.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: So did that stay over here in the corner that's
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: moving That had a higher score too.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: My trash can over here?
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: And twenty two, Pete, you hit on twenty to Okay, okay,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: I got you.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I got what was t Bo's.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: I think you got a twenty one. I think you
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: had twenty one.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: But when you get like twenty for signing your name.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Something like that school name, you know, that's a that's
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: a quick ten, you know what I'm saying, A quick
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: ten name and stuff.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: But but yeah, I think I think he's going to
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: be a cornerback and a good one.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And I think if Campbell could play like he's played
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: in training.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Can't be.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Let's take the contract out.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Of the equation, okay, because that's they gave him way
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: too much money.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Take the contract out of the equation.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: He could be a good corner, Lewis could be a
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: good nickel, and Hunter could be a great corner.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: So that's good. You're good there.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: But with now, if he's not there now, it becomes
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: an issue if he's not there for a while, because
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: who starts there Jerry and Jones.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, with you, but to play, you know, like
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: the other side of this whole thing. Liam Cohen was
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: brought here for a reason, and it was to help
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: out Trevor Lawrence. So do you mean to tell me
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: that Liam Cohen is gonna be like, yeah, let's go
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: have our second pick overall, Let's go have him play
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: defense and let's go sprinkle on an offense every once
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: in a while.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Or is Liam.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Like all the plays all the players.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: It's I think that's crazy. If that sounds I think
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: he is. That's the they want to sure.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and going around the league and
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: talking to players.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: When I talked to him about it, they all say
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: it's not the endurance is unreal, they say, as the
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: endurance of a marathon runner.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: You know, Like I said, the day I was.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: There, it was one hundred and one and I actually
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: sat down and interviewed him and he wasn't even breathing hard.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: He had practiced on both sides.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: He had done you know, the stuff door and special
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: teams when he was usually standing around doing stuff on defense.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: And I go, hot enough for you, he goes at
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: one bad. I'm like, you kidding me.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: I love the heat, but it was hot that day,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: so I think he can do it.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: But the question players asked me.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: And you know this and being a play well his
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: body hold up not from an endurance standpoint, but from
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: a physical standpoint.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's it's hard to fathom because
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: we always talk about that wall that you know that
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: the first year guys hit the rookie wall, because you
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: essentially go from playing the college game, then you play
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: in a senior Bowl or whatever. Then you prep yourself
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: with the combine, you prep yourself for your pro days.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of time to just rest
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: and acclimate and get ready for the football season.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: It's just you go here.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Then you go here, then you go here, so you
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: have zero time to rest and to expect a first
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: year guy, even you know, if he is the athletic
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: freak that Travis Hunter is, to come in here and go, okay,
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: you know you did you step in Colorado? You know,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: you get rid for the PROTA and everything, you haven't
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: stopped training since, and now you go play both sides
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: of the football for the whole time.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: It's a lot on that. You know that that guy's play.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: And I think I would err on the side of
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: caution more than I would just say, well, okay, man,
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: let's throw it in the water and see what.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: You can do.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: You know, if somebody asked me the other day, they said,
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: what if he plays both sides of the ball for
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: the next three years or two years, and then he
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: get the year four and it's time to redo his contract?
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Be his agent?
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, how do you negotiate that deal?
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: You know what I said, I said, in year four,
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: he starts playing one side of the ball.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: You know that. You know that's gonna happen.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: You know that happens right whatever year is negotiation deal
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: is he's going to play one side of the ball.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: He's not going to play both.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you limit the wear and tear. You pick one side,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: You pick the one that pays one.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: If he's a great place, say he plays every snap
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: for two years or close to it, and he's an
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: All Pro corner in year two and he's a sixty
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: five catch, thousand yard eight touchdown receiver, negotiate that contract.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, because if you're the agent, you're paying him
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: as a Pro Bowl corner of heighs as high as
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: you cossibly can.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: They're all Pro corner by the way.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: Let's sprinkle in that he's one of the better young
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: receivers in the league too, and negotiate that deal like
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: guy's gonna make a boatload of money.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're essentially paying for two players. Like if
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: I'm realistically, if if i'm his agent, and you know,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: assuming that he has a you know, an all Pro
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: year at corner and he has a decent season at
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: wide receiver, I'm going, Okay, well, let's go and reset
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: the market at uh at cornerback. All right, we got
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: that done, and then let's go ahead and make top
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: you know, eight top five money at wide receiver. Cool
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: sounds gonna add those contracts together and we'll see you guys.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Listen. So you're almost in quarterback territory at that point, right, Oh, you.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Would be would almost you would be? Yes, you and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Dan Court.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Fifty five a year, I mean sixty whatever it is
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: at that point. Yeah, and then and then you know,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm excited for two.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for the next crop of college kids that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: are coming out now that are watching Travis Hunter do
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: his thing. Because you want to talk about the transport
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: portal and everything. How many college athletes are gonna go, Oh,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: if I'm coming to Alabama, you only gotta be playing
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: wide receiver, not corner. Yeah, I'm gonna transfer to some
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: place house where they want me to play both spots.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Like that's going to be a trend now too. Just
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: wait and see.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: The only thing is it's so hard to do. And
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: again you go to you go to the endurance and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: he did it at altitude. I mean, that's incredile, that's incredible.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: You played in Denver. How it's hard to I lived
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: there for a year.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: I remember one time the first time I moved to Denver,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: I was playing basketball and I started going, I'm like,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: what is this And it's just and so for him
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: to be able to do that at altitude and now
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: to be able to do it and heat the way he's.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Doing it, there's a special kid. But again, his body
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: isn't big.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: He's not a big kid, and so you worry about
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: body breaking down more than lungs breaking down.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Pete, were you good at basketball?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Yes, very good as members though that used to work
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: in the in the with the Jaguars, remember Lorenzo.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, works in Miami. Now works for the Dolphins.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Him and Ryan Robinson.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Remember they had that basket inside the facility there and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: they Zoe talked a good game, and I go go ahead,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: we'll go shoot.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I shot him. Both out shot shot their lights. Zoe
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: would do that. And by the way, you guys appreciate
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: this since you played with the Boston the other day.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: When I when I first went on my training camp
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: tour two weeks ago, was at the Dolphins. I was
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: had Tyreek hill on and I looked at him and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: during the interview, I said, well, you look like.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: You leaned up a little bit.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: He goes, Oh yeah, man, he goes, he goes. When
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: I was here for you know, in Kansas City, I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: was one eighty eight. When I came here, I started
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: feeling like Maurice Jones drew. Maurice is catching strays.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: And so then after I was done, I asked him,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: I said, why did you think you shot at Maurice?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: He said, when he was a kid. I guess Tyree
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: grew up in Georgia, somewhere close. He was a Jaguars.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: He followed the Jaguars, and he remembered jumping Maurice Jones Drew.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Running the football, and so that's why he took the shot.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: By the way, Maurice was here for the scrimmage last week,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: was in town. I saw him in the hallway.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I love Maurice's.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Maurice is one of those guys that back in the day,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: he always gave you. When I come into the locker room,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: he'd always give me crap somehow. Oh, you play the game,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: you know back when I go and I give him,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: you know the line I give him.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not a five star chef, but I know it
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: tastes good to you know.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: All right, let's come back. We've got to keep it
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: real when we come because we've been faking it the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: whole time. I guess. So the first hour. Uh no,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: no sponsor.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: But we got all that wine from the other guy
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, so we got that calling
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Didn't Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, Bobby didn't make it.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: By the way, he's he's years ago. Apparently I didn't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: realize the guy was dead. I was asking for wine.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: He's been dead for years.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Well, somebody's in family still owns it. So Bobby Junior.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Mate Robert Jr. We're back in a moment. We've got
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: to keep it real when we come back. It's Jaguars
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: JP Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Austin Lane in with us for
• 1:04:11
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• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Jaguars lost to the Steelers in preseason Week one on
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  Speaker 3: Defensive performance is what we're going with on Saturday night.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Steelers quarterbacks listen to these stats. Pete Austin, Mason Rudolph
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: nine of ten eighty four yards and a touchdown. Skyler
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Thompson twenty of twenty eight two hundred and thirty three
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: yards and three passing touchdowns. How concerned are you with
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: the defense after that performance and moving forward, Austin Aaron Rodgers,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: better watch out. Let's keep it real right now.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: No, I mean I'm a little concerned about it because
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: you know, you had your starters out there going against
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of the twos. Now granted, the Steels offensive
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: line played that opening drive and everything for I think
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: at least a quarter, but you're going against skill guys
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: who are backups, right, and that can't happen. So I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: get it's one preseason game. We're still learning the defense
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: and everything. But like we talked about to open the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: show today, we can't You can't have guys looking back confused,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: not being lined up properly, because that's coaching, Like, that's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: getting guys prepared to play the game. You know, skill
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: is gonna always win the day, and I get that,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: but you have to set your guys up for success.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: And I think there was a lot of guys that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: were open, you know on Saturday that should have been
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: that wide open.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: You know, looking at watching the game and seeing Anthony
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: Campanelli's face, I thought somebody it looked like somebody told
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: him that Italian food stinks or something.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: You know, it's That's what.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: It looked like to me, because I've actually had a
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: conversation with Anthony about Italian food in Jacksonville. Because he's
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: gotta look look, go around some good ones. I can
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: tell you that.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: But it's there. You got to look for it. But
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was not a good look, and it's supposed to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: be a new look defense.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: They didn't show anything again, I have a heart. Let's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: go back to the touchdown you just showed the Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the big tight end from Jordan.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: That was they were in his own and it looks
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: like a Loulo con should.
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  Speaker 5: Get a little more depth there because there's nobody threatening
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: him underneath, right, that's what it should be. You look
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: at the end zone shot of that. There's no threat
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: for him underneath on that play.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Because nobody's running around underneath.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Correct, So there is there's nobody there.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: He's got to get more depth on that to make
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: that a tougher throw and allow Campbell to come over
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  Speaker 5: and maybe make a play on it.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you see what I mean. That's not that's
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: not it. It's he doesn't get enough depth there. I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: don't think he's kind of frozen for a second. There's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: no I get it.
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  Speaker 5: If there's a threat there, he's got to play it.
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  Speaker 5: But there was no threat there.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and it's wild too because I still haven't seen
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: the All twenty two yet. I still have to get
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Pete's password for that one. But you know, when I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: was looking back, like I couldn't tell if they're in
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: a cover three with the linebackers and a cover four
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: in the back end, Like it looked like they're in
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: a different zone coverages in terms of the safeties and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: in terms.
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  Speaker 3: Of the linebackers, which could be the case some teams
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: do run that.
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  Speaker 2: Now that looks like three. That looks like it's covered three.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: That sample's playing play and he has no threat on him,
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  Speaker 5: so he has to come over and make a play
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  Speaker 5: on that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but what the case may be, like you
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: know Hindsight's twenty twenty right, was it the right call
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: right there? Probably not? But once again, if that's gonna
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: be the case, you gotta get pressure, and I get
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: you're not gonna blitz a lot in terms of the preseason,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: A lot of teams don't. It's more of just the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: meat and potatoes. But this is where that interior pressure
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: it has to make a difference because the ball's coming
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: out quickly.
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  Speaker 5: And some of those touchdowns where against guys that aren't
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: going to be around, you know that, So you gotta
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: put you know, so you got to take those from
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: what they are. But again, it was sloppy. It wasn't
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: it wasn't crisp, it wasn't sloppy. I mean, Josh heinz
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Allen and Dravon Walker didn't exactly win, you know. So
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: again it's the preseason. There's if you're Josh heinz Allen,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: what's your motivation in the preseason?
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Seriously?
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Stay healthy?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, right, that's your only motivation, you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: Travon Walker, your only motivation is to make it out
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: of the preseason, take a few hits, and get to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: the preseason.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Get yourself ready. So I don't read.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: A lot, and across the board, not just in Jacksonville,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: but across the board, I don't read. I've been around
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: this thing for so long. I don't read anything into
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: the preseason.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: So back in the day, if you played a half
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: with the starters versus starters, and you game like preseason,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: game number three used to almost.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Be like a game for a half.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: You game planned, you did some things, your starters played
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: against their starters, You came out of the halftime because
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: they wanted you to feel what it's like to come
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: out of halftime for And then now it's not close
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: to that. So you can't get any gage in this
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  Speaker 5: at all.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: So then, Pete, what are we talking about here for
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: game two? In game three?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, are we satisfied with what we see in
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: a it's the preseason.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: It's just keep these guys healthy. We don't need to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: see anymore or do you want to see?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: You got to play and not be sloppy. Now, whether
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: you dominate or whatever you do, that's a whole different issue.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: But you can't have guys.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: It's the same as it was a year ago. Remember JP,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: all they did was look around. Yeah, I sted coverages
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: and look around and what are they doing?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: And so I think that has to be better. You
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: have to the mechanism of the game has to be better.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: The results take it for what it's worth, but the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: mechanism of the game has to be better this time.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll see. You know how the schedule this week
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: affects that too. They're going to have a scrimmage, they're
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: saying on Thursday on the practice.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: When it's a scrimmage, nobody's tackling anybody. It's shrimmage.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well maybe they can know where they are in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: the right place in a scrimmag.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: So what you're saying is if they have some kind
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage on Thursday, then there's an impact.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Who plays on Sunday?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Does it impact the reps? And I think that Liam
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Cohen said that today. Hey, we're gonna wait until after
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: all this stuff happens to really determine that. After Thursday's practice, you.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: Know, more and more guys played in Week one than
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: have been played in this across the league. If you
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: notice that, Yeah, Kansas City always plays how long.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Did How long did Mahomes play? How long did Mahomes?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: He played a couple series Cincinnati played.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: They started slowly every year every year they usually don't
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: play them, but they start slowly, So he played them.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: I just think you guy's got to hit You know
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: that Austin guy's got to hit. If you go through,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: if you don't play it all in the preseason, that
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: means the first time you actually tackle somebody is in
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: week one from the last time you played a game
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: that mattered.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: That's a long time not to hit somebody.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Tackle somebody, No, without a doubt like that. It's just it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a different it's a different mindset when you're in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: that game, right well, when you I think it's a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: preseason game, right that the crowd's not at full effect
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: and everything. Maybe the energy from the opposition isn't it
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: to the full effect, but it's still different being.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Under those bright lights. And you know, I.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: Would like to see these guys play a little more.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: I really went and once again, we'll see how this
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: quote unquote scrimmage goes. I know they have the inner
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: squad whatever practice with the Miami Dolphins.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, one day, which is one which is.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: Crazy that so it's only one day, by the way,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: because I mean when I played, it was a full week.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: You know, I had to see these.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Guys in Atlanta because there's always Atlanta Falcons, so it
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: was almost like a big time like you know, back.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: In Miami and Miami Austin went to Chicago to go
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: with the Bears.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Listen to their schedule.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: They went to Chicago, worked out with the Bears on Tuesday,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: worked out with them on Wednesday, and Thursday, stayed on
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: or wait was it?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: They went on Wednesday, worked out with them on Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: had day off, then played on Sunday.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Now they go to Detroit. You're go to work out
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: with the Lions for.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: A day, stay there and play the preseason game on Saturday,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: and then fly home and they're gonna work out with
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: So they call it the team bonding thing or whatever.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: But still that's.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: There's like a team like tuggle war. There's gonna be
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: like charades. I'm sure they'll be.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Playing kind of potato Potato sack race.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: Stunk a year ago, and your coach let the guys
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: get out of control.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: He has to try and rein him in. That's exactly
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: what that is.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Can he do it down there? By the way, So
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: you can't. You can't.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: It's like if you I don't have kids, but I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: understand if you have kids, once you if you try
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: and discipline them after they run wild for four years,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: you can't do it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: It's just not happening.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So I started think that one because I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: have a ten year old. We start out one years old.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: Oh he's crying, Hey, let's go ahead, and goes down
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: and you know, go in the corner. There's time out
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: a little bit one year old, not really obviously, so.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: I was choking. Man, service could be listening to this.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Put him in the corner at his
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: bast yea with a dunce cap on. Yeah great, and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: you know you.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: Can't even remember it.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: But but I guarantee, like and I myself to blame
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: for this, that the first I've never I should say this.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: I've done it one time where I've actually cussed in
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: front of my son and he was probably five or
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: six years old, and I dropped it. It was an
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: f bomb. It was a giant one. But I was
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: watching Blake Bortles throw his second pick six of the game,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: and I just I let one, going, what what the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: bleep are you doing? And then I had my wife
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: at the time go, what do you what do you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: what are you saying? Like it's not my fault, it's
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: the second pick six, Like this is justified, Like anybody
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: would would say this and play Blake. Yeah, so as
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: soon as he's in school by Lake, first day of school,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: fifth grade, as soon as that first you know that
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: curse word comes out, I'm blaming Blake bort I'm gonna
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: call it Blake Bortles and say you need to go
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: talk to this teacher man because I'm not taking you know,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: the bullet for this one.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I just the thing about a cursing. You gotta be
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: careful around kids because they'll pick it up.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: And run with him sponges.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Where did you hear that? My dad?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: My dad?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: But back to the jedguars, I think they need to
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: play too. I think this is a young team. They
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: need to play.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: You can't be worried about injuries. You just can't play
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: football that way. Well, I mean, don't you think they'll
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: play this week?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: I hope so. But they gotta play a little right.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. And I'm not sure if
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: this works in locker rooms.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: And I feel like this was happening with the Bengals
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: because if any quarterback didn't have to play in the preseason,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's Joe Burrow. But I feel like
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: Zach Taylor asked Joe Burrow, Hey, how are you feeling
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: you want to get some reps in I think Joe
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Burrow said, yeah, you know, let's shake some of the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: rust off, give me a couple of series here, and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: let's go from there. I hope there's some consultation with
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: you know, some of the leaders of this team to
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: be like, how are you guys feeling where you guys at?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: And I hope it's truthful and being hey, I think
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: we need a little more to kind of showcase what
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: we can do.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they need it, and I think they
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: should play and then you don't play them in the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: final preseason game.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I would do, easy enough.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: Then you play, then you play all you play the
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: guys that are going to be on stock market and
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: not working in wall streets.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: Well, especially with but because Mammy's coming to town too, right,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: So you're gonna go to Miami, but you're gonna have
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: that one practice.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: There, right. So in theory, if if they weren't.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Practice will be a lot you get more. Veterans get more.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: Out of those practices than they do at a preseason
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: game because they get more reps.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Like I've talked to many a quarterback.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: I remember Philip Rivers telling me, look, I go work
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: out with the team I'm getting. You know all these
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: plays that I don't get preseason games is only played
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: like five or you know, ten plays or something at
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: the most, so it's much more valuable. So you're right,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: I doubt they'll play week in the final week, so
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: you got to play them in this one.
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  Speaker 4: Are these gonna be fight related to because I'm not
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: paying anybody bet If they've lost a bet on me,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: that's not my problem.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: That's a good idea. Actually, we might have to start
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: doing fight questions for Austin. If I lost you guys
• 1:16:08
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• 1:16:11
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  Speaker 3: it's it is intentional. When we have so many playmakers,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: you want to get.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: Them all involved and early and let guys get the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 9: rock and do something with us.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: So I think that is intentional for sure.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 9: And then there's times where the ball just kind of
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 9: finds finds guys more than others. I think in games
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 9: like this, obviously you want to see you want to
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 9: spread the ball around, You want to get guys touches,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 9: get them going, you kind of see what see what
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 9: we can do.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: But I thought the guy's a nice job.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: Obviously we had the one drive, so it's hard to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 9: really evaluate beyond that. But yeah, I thought the guys
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 9: did a goo job when their number was called.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, after the game in the locker room,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, our second Hour,
• 1:16:55
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• 1:16:58
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• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Austin, you train all the time, so do you eat
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: anything like that ever?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, man, I can have a cheat me
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: every once in a while, you know, I can have
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: a little affair meal if I want to.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, I want to have some today.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: I think so delicious training.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: If you weren't training, would you be you would be
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: eating it though, No matter what, right.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, Pete, The way I look at it is,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: if I'm training hard enough, I can eat whatever I want, right,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: So I'll just burn the calories in the gym.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: I feel the same way. There we go, man, That's
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: what I do. That's what you got to do.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: You're trading the fight. You're trading the.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Fight all No, No, I'm not fighting battle.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Get a beaten.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: I'm battling myself, Pete.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's always a battle, Jap.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: It's always about it.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, am I allowed to have some of that?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not like, Okay, well, I'm kind of like a prelancer.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like I don't know if I'm allowed to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: have that or not. The show about a collared shirt too,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: the second collared shirt that I've worn in like the
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: past couple of days.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: You're already trying to cut players. You can go eat
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: whatever the hell you want.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: No, But I do like the fact that when JP
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: opens the show and he talks about Austin Lane being
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: here for twenty and twenty five, are you saying he
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: might not be back in twenty and twenty six and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: then we're not.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Even done VP Junior Man Pete by EVP Pete. We're
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: all day to day Tony, what's okay? Come on, Pete, we.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Are but we're day to day in life till again day.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: But but but the way you say that, I'm like, Okay,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: he's here for twenty twenty.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: I was not involved in you even.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Said you haven't even a half hour in and he's saying.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, man, it is Hey, maybe he's got some high
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: hopes for me.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I have high hopes for you. I
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: have high hosts. I like it for here.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: Now I know the other people in town that man,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: I like to hear that you say, you know that
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: the high hopes thing, because I have other engagements as well.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: Who I can't. I don't think we're Are you allowed
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: to say it or not? Your your brother John's Trent? Yeah,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: rhymes of trouble with a different first letter. And I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: don't mean Balky.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, who's who's Trent? Balky? We don't know him?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: Make it noted. The first person to say that name
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: on the show was Austin that it was going to
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: go there.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: I don't get an email, man, I don't know's you
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: can say.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want to say.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: I blistered him last year so bad, well, last year,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: the year before the year before before that.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: So uh, look, you got questions, don't you.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's get to him now, Pete you ready,
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  Speaker 3: Here's the best we've come up with tonight at Samuel
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: du Well, Are you worried Hunter didn't look his dynamic
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: out there as he did in college? I worry his
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: athleticism won't translate to the NFL.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's all stupidity, stupidity stupidity?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think on offense, what people expected
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: him to be like the next Tyreek kill in preseason
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: game number one and break every single tackle like, yeah,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: it's the NFL, right, You're gonna have to learn how
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: to navigate, how to wiggle and everything. But I thought
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: on defense he looked fine, and on offense he'll learn
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: as he goes.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: And Fred made a good point.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: Say this, that little short pass that he caught, if
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: he hadn't slipped, he was popping out the side to
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: get the big play down the sideline.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: So it's it's there.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: And that was my point quick Fred Taylor was with
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: Fred the other night and he said, you know what,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: maybe that's a cleat issue. There was no He did
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: it a couple of times, actually fell out of his cleat,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: so maybe that's an adjustment to be made moving ahead.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Most athletics played for him was the jump when he
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: hit the kicker after the field goal. It was like,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: could have heard of that?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Man, It's unbelievable.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: But if again, when you watch the twenty two, if
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: he pops out there, he's down the sideline for a
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: huge play, maybe even score.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: So it's it's it's common. It'll be fine. It'll be fine.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Next question, at no a way, how much improvement can
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: we expect in terms of physicality of play. I saw
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Steelers backups pushing our starters around Austin.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I hope it improves yet, because I noticed
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: a little bit of the same thing, and it's kind
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: of deceiving in the box score a little bit because
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: if you see like what the Steelers are rushing with
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: their you know, their starting guys.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: It was few and far between.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think in terms of mentality, once again,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: I've said it, so the Coles come home, it starts
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: in the interior, and I think the interior's got to
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: step it up a little bit.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, we.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: Talked about the interior of that defensive line. But Steelers
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: have had problems running the ball. You know that they
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: average four point their identity is to run the ball.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: They average four point one per rush last year as
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: a team, and they're not a great physical run team anymore.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: So I think it was You're right, it's a little misleading,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: but they dominated the offensively.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: That's that's what you don't want to see.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: You want to see a defense dominate an offense, and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: they didn't dominate.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Them at all. Next question is about that defense at
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: coach Ripley one. For those who aren't jumping in the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Saint John's River, what are Austin's expectations with the defense
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: and the coverage being soft and or the lack of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: pass rush. Did we blitz or stunt or just play bass?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, for the most part, you saw a lot
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: of just bass. Right, this is preseason game number one.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna see a lot of blitzer. You're gonna
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: see the meat and potatoes. But I think going forward,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: if what you have right now on that defensive line
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: is what you have, you know, unless Eric Armstead comes back,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: unless Mason Smith comes back, you're gonna have to generate
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: a little more of that interior rush. So that's gonna
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: be involving blitzing. And keep in mind, like when we asked,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: you know, Lloyd is a classic example of this. Like
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: Lloyd's great in the run game, Lloyd can get after
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: the passer a little bit as well. In terms of
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: his pass rush, I think you know, there's been times
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: in the past and if you ask him, well, you
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: know what he's has to work on. It's his coverage ability.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: Well that's an example now of using a player to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: his strength. So if you want to butlitz Lloyd every
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: once in a while or put somebody else, then more
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: power to you. But until they address that interior, you've
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: got to manufacture a pass rush somehow.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in talking to the guys and the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: staff about Campanelli, he's going to be exotic and his
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: looks He's gonna show a lot of things. It's not
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: unlike Brian Flores in Minnesota.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: He shows a lot of those different things.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: You saw basic as basic can be the other night.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: So it's hard to read into that, at least from
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: my standpoint.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: But you know, there's a lot of people scare them.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: If they can't handle the basics, then how are they
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: gonna handle the exact.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: The basics are?
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: The basics are just again, are you worried about Trayvon
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: Walker playing the run or rushing the passer? Or you're
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: worried about josh hin Allen rushing the pastor I don't
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: think you are, but they.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Didn't do that in the game the other night. So
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: it's just so hard to preseason to evaluate.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: It really is a couple more here at Tartan Tiel.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: Does Pete still think Fred Johnson makes the starting old
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: line ahead of Anton Harrison?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: You know when I said that I thought he would
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: push him, I was told that he would.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: Push him, and it hasn't materialized. I will say he
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: probably is.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: He played on the left side the other night, but
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: I think probably more apt to play on the right side.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: From what I hear, he hasn't had a great camp,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: and you know there's some concern about him.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: I think you look at their we talked. We haven't
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: talked much about the offensive line.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: Adoga has done a really good job at right guard,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: and I think he might possibly win that job. He saw,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: you know, when McCary got hurt. You saw crease there
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: and he.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Took hold of it.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: Now, didn't they play him at right tackle today when
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: Harrison was out? Didn't Didn't they play because Milon played
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: right tackle just aft in this with the second group
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: the other night.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I don't know about today because
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: I was I got out there late today.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: I think I read where McCary might have been over
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: there today.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: So they've been moving guys around though all camp.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, like Manheim played left guard and he's a center. Yeah,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: and he was, by the way, he was good at
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: left guard. You know, we're not great, but good. I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: think I think they finally have some developmental alignment. Milam
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: and Monheim both could be developmental alignment. Fortner was better
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: a little bit at center than he had been.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: But again, the.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: Offensive line, Fred Johnson, I'd have to say, in just
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: from my personal experience, what I thought he would do
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: come in is probably been a little disappointed.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think in terms of I mean, what
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: was the call he's gonna replace Walker Little or Anton Harrison.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: The thought was he might push forcible.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think in terms of Anton Harrison,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: it's been evident during camp that they're trying to push
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: him right in terms of just like what you know,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: coach Liam Cohen saying in the media and everything like that,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: they're really making a habit this year of trying to
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: get the best out of Anton Harrison because I think
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: we saw it his rookie year and he wasn't even
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: a hundred percent and he showed some glimpses of but
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: I think being a very good to even great offensive tackle.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: Then last year, for whatever rhyme or reason, when I
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: feel like he was healthier, didn't pay up to his
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: best abilities. So I think you have a situation now
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: where it's like, is he not getting pushed enough, is
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: he not getting coach right? Whatever the case may be,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: They're they're all in on this year on pushing them
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: to try to like make make it because basically got
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: to prove the coach is wrong and saying, hey, I
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: can handle this job, and I think for the most part,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: if you watched that last game and tacha what Pete
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: was saying earlier in the show. I mean, there was
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: one play where if Travis CTN just reads it, it
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: would have been eighty eight and out the gate. It's
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: just he he didn't read the ball. And that was
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: that was spearheaded by Anton Harrison.
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  Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, guys, if Odogas starts at
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: right guard and McCary doesn't start, is that bad free
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: agency or do you give him the benefit of it
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: out because they got the other guy on a cheap deal.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: How do you really how would that play out? How
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: do you look at it from that standpoint.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: That's a good question, It's a great question.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: I will look at it and say, you know, we
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: brought in a guy to to have a training camp
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: battle to maybe push McCary, and that guy ended up winning.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: So I think, you know, if I'm the GM, it's
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: gonna be a win win.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: You're still you're still paying McCarry, right, is it McCarry
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: and McCary mcary He told me McCarry after his first
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: press conference.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, because I've heard McCarthy at times in his career.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: It's been McCarthy.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: I've heard McCarthy.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's still there.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: It's a big contract. I was like twenty two and
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: a half million guaranteed thirty seven and a half three years.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: Okay, but but the other guy you signed to be
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: a tackle, a backup tackle, and.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: You move in the guard.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: He plays so well because he's played well supposedly in camp,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: he's had a really good camp.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Right, and he's on a two year, seven million dollar deal.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: Well he's cheaper, yeah, but again, so how would you
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: look at it? It just depends on how he plays.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: If he played really well, then you look at it
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: as a good move. If he plays done play that well,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: then you look at it as a two crappy moves.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: It's almost like when I was in Buffalo, Christian Benford
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: is their best corner, right. Christian Benford came in the
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: sixth and I remember the year I was there. Benford
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: was a sixth rounder and kyer Elam from Florida was
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: a first rounder and everybody was raising they said, no,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: the sixth rounders out playing them already. Well, the sixth
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: rounders become one of the better corners in the league.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: The first round is no longer a buffalo. So do
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: you ping him for drafting elam or do you give
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: him credit for drafting?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of the same scenario here. If it
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: played out that way, well, I.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: Mean, I found myself the same situation. It's a little different.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: But when I got here back in twenty ten, Derek
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: Harvey was the starting defensive end and obviously you remember
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: what they sacrificed to get Derek Harvey here. I mean,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: it was a lot of draft capital to try to,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: you know, make him the man. You know, he struggles,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: and eventually I ended up taking his role, and I understood,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: like there was a lot of hesitation to do that,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: not because you know, it was a new GM and everything,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: but it's like, it's what the move said, right, is
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: that you invested so much in this first round pick
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: and everything, all this capital, and now all of a sudden,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be like, all right, let's bring this fifth
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: rounder for Murray State wherever that is, and then we'll
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: see what happens.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: And that's what happened, man.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: But I did take his job, as.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: That would have been the Dallas Cowboys game, and I
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: didn't know I was even.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Playing in that so early in the season when was yeah,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: it would.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: Have been like week five, I think four, week five,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: and I didn't know I was even gonna play. So
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: I was inactive for the first whatever four games. And
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: I'm in Dallas, think I'm being active again. I'm in
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: the locker room, you know, we get off the bus
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: coach Tuck mel Tucker comes up to me. He's like,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: you're starting today. I go huh, because I'm thinking, like,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: you know, like, and I'll be honest, like, there's a
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: mindset that you get in before a game where you
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: think you're starting or you think you're inactive. Right, So
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: did I stay up and and watch a little too
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: much TV? I might have, right, because I think I'm
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: not gonna play it the next day. So I get
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: up and I go huh and he goes, yeah, you're starting.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: I go okay, cool, and he goes, hey, I understand
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: you right, you're a little nervous. I go, well, yes, sir,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: and he goes and at the paarapraise I can't cuss,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: but I'm gonna paarapraise this.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: He goes, well, like what you do on film?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: He goes if you're gonna crap on yourself, just make
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: sure you do it one hundred miles per hour.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: I go, yes, sir, sounds good, and it ended up
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: being a great game.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: I got a tackle for loss of the first playoffs
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: out there, so I kind of etched myself in, But yeah,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of resentment though, right because once
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: again Derek Harvey was supposed to be the guy and
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: he wasn't. And how they had that situation was just different.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: But I will say this too, I found out I
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: was still rooking the NFL, because yes, I was started.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: You thought life was good. I was still giving the
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: scout team looks too as well, because Derek Carvey didn't
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: want to do that. So I'd have to go with
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: the ones on defense in practice with Jack, and then
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: I had to go give the scout team look because well,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: Derek Cary wasn't give the.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: Scout team one.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: And what ron did you come? You were a fifth
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: a fifth round pickah, So as.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: A fifth round pick, he ran down the first round pick,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: the high first round pick five games.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: It no offense, Austin, but that speaks filures about Derek Garvey.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: No, no, listen, Derek Carry was a great guy man
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: and he was always cool with me when he have
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: to be right because he got a guy from Murray
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Stay coming and taking your job, he'd have to be cool,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: but he was always cool with me.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: All right, We've got one more question for the Night
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: at the foot fault guy, please tell me Prisco will
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: be on means the show. I need him to keep
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: calling Tony Bisselli a turncoat.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: Well, look, you give Tony Bisselli a ton of credit
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: because he turn.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Coated himself into an executive shop. What is this Tony's
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: exact title, by.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: The way, executive vice president of Football Operation.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, at the end of last year for the last month.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: And a half when he was defending everything and I
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: called him the turncoat and all that, he.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Played it right the right way. Kudos to him. We
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: were the.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: Dope right because we're still on the show. I mean
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: no offense to the show.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: It's just but look at him.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: He played himself in the executive DP of the football
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: operations for NFL team from that seat right there, Austin,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: think about that.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: It's incredible big shoes to fill, for sure.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: You know what it is.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: How many years did we do the show eleven? I
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: believe I think eleven seasons total.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: So I taught him well, I sent him on his way.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: He could be the executive VP now.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: He learned enough football from me that he could go
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: on his way. You know, it's funny though he's still
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: butchers names.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, I bet there's no doubt about that. In meetings.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: I bet he's hammered.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: Like I'll talk to about guys around the league sometimes
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: and he'll still butcher their names.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Hey, you should have heard him do a commercial the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: other day. He actually did a commercial the other day.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: Not sports Coach, No, it's not sports coats back, but
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: it was. It took him a handful of takes which
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: that happened.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: It's not surprising. That's not surprising.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: They have it. Fanatics, fan questions are in. We're back
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: in a moment with some final thoughts on our opening
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: Monday night show of the season. This is Jaguar's Happy
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings, our first
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  Speaker 3: Monday show of the season. Winding down from the Hundai
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  Speaker 3: Studios of the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadwick with Austin
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  Speaker 3: Lane here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida
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• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: spent the entire commercial break crushing Basselle on how he
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: couldn't read commercials properly, and I just screwed up the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: first read of this segment.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, He'll give it to you when he
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: sees you. Yeah, because he probably he's probably we know
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: you're in your office listening Tony. We know it.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: We just know it old Rabbit Ears, Tony.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: Sitting there in your your hoodie.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: Eating snacks, eating snacks, watching tape.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we know it.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: You know he's listening, well, Rabbit turncoat to Rabbit Ears.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: You know what, though, I don't think I don't.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: Think he's going to be like certain other gms in
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: that GM in that building at all.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think James will be either.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: Look, the other guy was so thin skinned Trent Balkey
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: listened to everything and it bothered him.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: And when you try and talk to him about it,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: it still bothered him.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: So you know, look, we're going to be critical. We're
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: not holding back. We will not hold back. If Warren's
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: being criticized, you get criticized, but Warren's being praised, you
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: get praised.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Period. That's the way it's going to be.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: I'm curious because I think late Liam Cohen, I don't
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: know if you guys.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's handled his team very well in
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: the offseason.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: And it's just a matter of what's it going to
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: be like in the regular If it's one and two,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: how does he handle that?
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: We don't know that. That's what we don't.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: And that's with every new head coach that comes in,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: especially a first year head coach that comes in. We've
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: had a few of those when they're one and four.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, things can get tight in a hurry.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: Us.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: No, without a doubt. I mean, when you're winning football games,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: everything's fun. Right Like if you're on a little bit
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: of a winning streak, your job is easy. Just all right,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: be here at a certain time. I'll coach. That's I'll
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: call these plays cool. But if it's the NFL, so
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be losing streaks, right, So if we're talking
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: three four games in a row, how do you respond?
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: And that to me is gonna be the true makeup
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: of a coach right there, especially a first year coach,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: of how do you rally your troops? Then how do
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: you get your guys to be invested when you guys,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: you know, worked hard in the off season and everything,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden it's not going like
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: you wanted.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: What is the plan going forward?
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: I was talking about Lafleur last week about coaching, and
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: we were talking about he said early in his career
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: it would drive him crazy to the point where he
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: didn't sleep, and what would you do when it wasn't perfect?
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: And I told him, I go, can't be perfect. You
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: can't control it. It cannot be perfect.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: And until you.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: Later on in his career, as he started to realize
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: it can't be perfect, that it changed who he is.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: And so that's what you always worry about with young
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: young coaches who were coordinators, like with Liam, if it
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: goes bad, does he go back to trying to fix
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: the offense?
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: It's not just him Ben Johnson. Uh, those guys, do
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: you go to your side.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: Of the ball and say, I gotta oh my gosh,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: I gotta fix this, and not really big picture of
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: the whole team, because that's where you're gonna be decided
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: if you're a great coach or not.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: Is that you handled a big team, the whole team. Well.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: And here's the biggest thing too about Liam Conan this
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: entire regime taking over, is that they've put u you know,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: a really emphasis on transparency.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: We almost feel like we're behind the curtain the entire
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: time with this new regime. What happens if you lose
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: three or four games in a row? Is there gonna
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: be accountability? Are you gonna call guys out or are
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: we gonna be privileged to know, Hey, what do you
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: guys plan on doing it? Or are we gonna kind
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: of go quiet then and not really give us a
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: lot of information? You know, is gonna be more like
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: Brett Martineau. You would understand from Doug Peterson last year?
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Remember that one I do remember what you get it?
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: You would can get it?
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we can got Liam Cohen breaking down
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: and play by play in the preseason like, I'm a
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: fan of it, but me to.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: In the NFL.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: I've said that all the year. There's no secrets in
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: the NFL.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, Pete, when do you want to cut the team?
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: And when do you want to pick the schedule? We
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: got like three weeks cut the team.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: We'll cut the team? What days cut dates? And three
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: weeks from.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it's we won't have a show after that
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: until week one. No, no, we labor Day, we don't
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: have a show either, So we won't have a show
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: until after the first game. So we got to do
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: it before cuts.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: We got to do it before cuts.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got what.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: We gotta do it before cuts. Anyways, we always make
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: our cuts.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: Did you see Liam Cohen came out today and said
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: he already has fifty count He pretty much knows fifty.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: Well that all the time you do it every year.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: He's like, I got it done already.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: I I could have done it.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week, Pete. Pete Prisco Austin,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: great jobs, man, appreciate you again next week. That all
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: twenty two password appreciate you. This Jaguars happy Hour