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“Forgiveness, Grief, and Healing the Body with Leah Fruth” · Faithful Fitness With Coach Alex VanHouten

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Faithful Fitness Podcast for My Dad. Coach
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  Speaker 1: Alex van Houghten helps you get stronger and mind, body,
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  Speaker 1: and spirit. He believes that your body's a temple, so
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  Speaker 1: taking good care of it is an actual worship.
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  Speaker 2: I should know.
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  Speaker 1: I live with them. Every week he brings truth from
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  Speaker 1: the Bible to some science and stories that will set
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  Speaker 1: your heart on fire. May God bless you to become
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  Speaker 1: everything He made you to be, just one percent better
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  Speaker 1: every single day.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, there, are you free of all grudges or grief?
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  Speaker 2: Coach Alex fan out and Faithful Fitness Podcast. Here we
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  Speaker 2: help you make the most out of the body God's
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  Speaker 2: given you. And in this episode we're talking to Leah
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  Speaker 2: Fruth and we'll be talking about how grudges in grief
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  Speaker 2: don't just affect your mind and your emotions, they affect
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  Speaker 2: your body too. It's time to forgive time to process.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't picked up your copy yet, you need
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  Speaker 2: the Faithful Fitness devotional final link in the show notes.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. What's up, guys. This
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  Speaker 2: is coach Alex finn Houton on the Faithful Fitness Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Our mission is to help you make the most out
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  Speaker 2: of the body God's given you, and I know this
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  Speaker 2: episode is going to help you do just that. I
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  Speaker 2: am joined by my new friend, Miss Leah Fruth. Good morning, sister.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing morning?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing so well, bright.
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  Speaker 2: Edd and bushy tailed. It looks like, yes, yes, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into our conversation we've got we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about grief and stress, which is actually more
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  Speaker 2: fun than it sounds because it's going to be redeeming conversation.
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  Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about forgiveness and what that
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  Speaker 2: has to do with our health, which which a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people don't understand how that's connected. So I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: to dive into that. But before we get there, we're
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  Speaker 2: we're friends on the front that we like our coffee
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  Speaker 2: and our kombucha. You have kombucha in that cup.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, Yes, homemade, homemade.
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  Speaker 2: What's the flavor? What's what are you going for this?
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  Speaker 4: I just I just put ginger in it, just like yeah, nice,
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  Speaker 4: kindred spirits.
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  Speaker 2: Can you please explain to my audience what kombucha is
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  Speaker 2: in why you like it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's just tea, but it's fermented tea, and so
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  Speaker 4: I don't know it just it. I I'm a big
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  Speaker 4: coffee drinker, but my stomach feels so much better when
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  Speaker 4: I don't drink coffee, and so I've just found a love.
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  Speaker 4: But I love all drinks. So like you name it, coffee,
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  Speaker 4: macha tea, kombucha, I love them.
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  Speaker 2: Also, how how long have you been making your own kombucha?
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  Speaker 2: That's a thing.
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  Speaker 4: A little over a year. It's really simple. I did
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  Speaker 4: soured out the whole sourdough thing in twenty twenty, and
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  Speaker 4: that is so much more work than kombucha. Kombucha is
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  Speaker 4: way simpler, I feel like. And I went into it
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  Speaker 4: saying it's fine to be average at some things. That's
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  Speaker 4: why I tell myself. And so I'm an average kombucha maker.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect. I keep it.
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  Speaker 4: Average and it's good and it's a lot cheaper than
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  Speaker 4: the store.
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  Speaker 2: No joke.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I had to make it because I was
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  Speaker 3: like my pocket.
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  Speaker 2: Even dollars for like like twenty ounces, right, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I.
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  Speaker 4: Can't do this because I was limiting myself and I
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  Speaker 4: wanted more, but I won't spend that much money.
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  Speaker 2: So no joke. That's that's awesome, very very thrifty of you.
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  Speaker 2: My wife went through the sourdough thing too, and she uh,
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  Speaker 2: I want to say, we had like four years of
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  Speaker 2: sourdough and it got to be like a chore. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I like to run, so so sourdough is great, great
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  Speaker 2: fuel for running in the the the probiotics and whatnot
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  Speaker 2: that come out of that. We're nice to my stomach.
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  Speaker 2: Most breads don't sit well with me, so so it
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  Speaker 2: was great. But after a while it was like, we
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  Speaker 2: have to eat two loaves of bread every like to
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  Speaker 2: justify this, we have to eat two loaves of so
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  Speaker 2: we ended up eating a lot to the chickens and
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  Speaker 2: she was like, I'm over it. So so basically it's
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  Speaker 2: the you have to you have to keep your culture right,
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  Speaker 2: and you have to add it to your your team
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  Speaker 2: mixture and then you it sounds like you flavor with
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  Speaker 2: ginger and then you're good.
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  Speaker 3: It's really easy.
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  Speaker 4: I always have it on my counter fermenting, and then
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  Speaker 4: I bottle it and so I have my three bottles
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  Speaker 4: on my counter and my fermented going and it's it's
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  Speaker 4: really takes like twenty minutes at a time, but so awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Does anybody else in your house drink your kombucher. Is
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  Speaker 2: this just I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty stingy about it. I'm like, you can only have
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. But my youngest really loves it, and
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  Speaker 4: so he's always.
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  Speaker 2: Sneaking, So that's hilarious. That's like, then I.
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  Speaker 3: Feel bad because I'm like, I should be more givving
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  Speaker 3: with it.
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  Speaker 2: But hey man, and you made it. You're like, I
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  Speaker 2: bet your youngest could figure it out, Like if you
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  Speaker 2: taught him, he probably a little batch.
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  Speaker 3: He probably could.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, I'm so glad that we get to
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  Speaker 2: have this conversation. And to those listening, if you haven't
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  Speaker 2: tried kombucha and you're not making your own kombucha, it's
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  Speaker 2: actually got some very good research around consuming fermented foods.
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  Speaker 2: Kombucha is one of them. You can have all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of other fermented foods, but fermented foods are really powerful
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  Speaker 2: for your microbiome and can help your immune system. Sounds
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  Speaker 2: like it helps your stomach leah, So that's awesome. And
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  Speaker 2: I find that if you make something, especially it's cost effective,
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  Speaker 2: but if you make something, you tend to enjoy it
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  Speaker 2: more and it brings an element of like peace and
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  Speaker 2: accomplishment to the process as opposed to just picking it
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  Speaker 2: up off the store shelf and you know, not having
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  Speaker 2: to worry about what ingredients are in it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and absolutely less sugar too in it too,
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  Speaker 4: so that's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my store bought ones probably like thirty grims of
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  Speaker 2: sugar is serving there's a great post workout, but not
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  Speaker 2: it's general good for okay. So so for our audience,
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  Speaker 2: you're a mom, you are a fitness instructor, you are
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  Speaker 2: a health coach. You are really passionate about helping individuals
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  Speaker 2: find freedom from stress, from grief, and from the things
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  Speaker 2: that ail our bodies in well, in just about every respect. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to dial in on something that you said.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about stress, We're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about grief, We're going to talk about fitness as worship
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  Speaker 2: and stewardship. I want to talk about something that you
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  Speaker 2: said in our in preparation for interview, and you said
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  Speaker 2: something along these lines. I don't want to put words
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  Speaker 2: in your mouth, so if I need to correct it,
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  Speaker 2: please please help me hear you said. I want to
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  Speaker 2: be able to talk about forgiveness because many people don't
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  Speaker 2: understand what this has to do with their health and
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  Speaker 2: fitness journey. So that's a very powerful statement. It's also
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  Speaker 2: an odd statement, not bad odd, but like good odd,
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  Speaker 2: like huh. There might be something too that, Leah, can
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  Speaker 2: you talk to me about in your time as a
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  Speaker 2: fitness instructor and health coach are what are some of
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  Speaker 2: the ways you're noticing forgiveness as a starting point or
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  Speaker 2: at least a necessary place in somebody's health and fitness journey.
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  Speaker 2: What are you noticing that makes you makes you connect
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  Speaker 2: the two?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like so many of my clients come
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  Speaker 4: in and like my last client, for example, she came
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  Speaker 4: in saying she was so angry all the time, and
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  Speaker 4: she didn't like it because she says, I'm not an
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  Speaker 4: angry person, but she has two kids and every single
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  Speaker 4: thing is just setting her off, you know, and she
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  Speaker 4: didn't like it. When we have our first session, I
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  Speaker 4: always have a first session getting to know their story,
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  Speaker 4: and then by the second I always offer forgiveness as
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  Speaker 4: our second option. And the people, the clients that grab
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  Speaker 4: hold of that and are saying, yeah, I need to
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  Speaker 4: forgive someone. That's one of my first questions in their paperwork.
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  Speaker 4: Who do you need to forgive? Is there anyone in
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  Speaker 4: your life you need to forgive. Everybody always has somebody,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if they're willing to admit it. And usually
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  Speaker 4: they're not just little things. They're huge, huge moments in
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  Speaker 4: their life, traumas and hurts and pains, and so when
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  Speaker 4: you're not willing to when you're holding on to all
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  Speaker 4: that and you're not willing to let it go, and
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  Speaker 4: that's not forgiveness is ever saying.
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  Speaker 3: What they did was right or it was okay.
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  Speaker 4: Even it's saying I give that to Jesus to handle.
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  Speaker 3: He's got it. It's not on me anymore. I can
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  Speaker 3: let that go.
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  Speaker 4: When you let when you let that go in that way,
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  Speaker 4: it's it frees you up so much to live fully again.
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  Speaker 4: It frees you up to do the things they're looking for.
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  Speaker 4: They're coming in for health coaching, saying I want to
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  Speaker 4: move my body, I want to wake up earlier, I
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  Speaker 4: want to be with Jesus more, I.
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  Speaker 3: Want to eat better.
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  Speaker 4: But they have they're holding onto this for years, and
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  Speaker 4: once you let it go, it's unbelievable that it's like
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  Speaker 4: the thing that supersede super speeds, like it's in the
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  Speaker 4: health journey. It is so much quicker than when people
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  Speaker 4: are like I I don't know if I want to
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  Speaker 4: go there. It's a slower process. But these people when
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  Speaker 4: they come in and they forgive. By the next session
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  Speaker 4: that lady was hearing from God for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: she was waking up, wanting to do some just be
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  Speaker 4: still time. She started moving her body. Within eight weeks
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  Speaker 4: she was like a totally different person. And all we
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  Speaker 4: did is meet with Jesus most of the time. So
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  Speaker 4: it's just forgiveness is how we were designed. It's it
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  Speaker 4: I think we forget sometimes. It's what Jesus came for.
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  Speaker 4: It's was his whole mission, is like forgiving us and
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  Speaker 4: us receiving forgiveness from him, and he called us to forgive.
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  Speaker 4: Jesus designed us to live healthy, and that was one
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  Speaker 4: of his secrets I think he gave us is forgive,
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  Speaker 4: be quick to forgive, and we would live better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, our lives right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a couple places in scripture, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, for those who are familiar with the Gospels,
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  Speaker 2: I highly recommend reading the Sermon on the Mount that's
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  Speaker 2: in Matthew chapter five, six and seven, and in the
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  Speaker 2: amount of times that Christ talks about forgiveness in that
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  Speaker 2: sermon is pretty powerful given that it's it's such a
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  Speaker 2: it's such an amazing sermon all the way across, and
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  Speaker 2: he addresses so many issues. But but forgiveness is a
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  Speaker 2: recurring theme. If I'm not mistaken, it's there that he says,
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  Speaker 2: when you have a gift to give to God, so
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  Speaker 2: you bring your gift to the altar. When you notice
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  Speaker 2: in your heart that you have something against your brother,
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  Speaker 2: you have, then leave your gift. In other words, don't
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  Speaker 2: even try to give it to God. Don't even try
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  Speaker 2: to give your offering. Don't even try to bring your
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  Speaker 2: worship to God. Go go make peace with your brother,
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  Speaker 2: Go finish that conflict, Go forgive, and then come back
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  Speaker 2: and give your your offering to God. And it's such
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  Speaker 2: a to me, that's such a poignant We don't have
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  Speaker 2: temples anymore, or I mean most most aspects of Christian
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  Speaker 2: they don't have temples anymore. Not many of us are
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  Speaker 2: bringing our gifts to an altar. Through the Holy Spirit
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  Speaker 2: and following Christ, we have an opportunity every every day
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  Speaker 2: to bring our worship to God and worship Him in
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  Speaker 2: spirit and in truth. But that is so poignant command.
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  Speaker 2: He's not suggesting it. He said to do it. It's
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  Speaker 2: such a poignant command. Hey, hey, if if you have
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  Speaker 2: something to give to God, if you have worship to
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  Speaker 2: offer to God, if if you want, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to be close to God, then before you do anything
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  Speaker 2: you need to you need to deal with this, this
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  Speaker 2: conflict in your heart and your mind against somebody else
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  Speaker 2: and what like. That's if you live that out. That
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  Speaker 2: is quite the command, because you said, hey, when you
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  Speaker 2: write stuff down, when when people when people report that
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  Speaker 2: in your sessions, everybody's got something and it might be
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  Speaker 2: way back in the past, and it might be big,
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  Speaker 2: deep and dark, and we can talk about bitter roots
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  Speaker 2: and bitter fruits and all that stuff. But like, like
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  Speaker 2: I'm a dad and I'm a husband and I'm a
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  Speaker 2: business owner. Stuff happens every day that I need to
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  Speaker 2: forgive and I'm not perfect. I need to be forgiven about.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's a that's a thing that if I
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  Speaker 2: if I don't, if I don't give it up, if
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  Speaker 2: I don't let it go, if I don't, if I
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  Speaker 2: don't actively go through the process of shedding the weight
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  Speaker 2: that I accumulate and unforgiven masses over time, yes, I
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  Speaker 2: will carry that thing in my spirit and that shows
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  Speaker 2: up in the body.
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  Speaker 4: And like if you're if you haven't forgiven things weigh
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  Speaker 4: in the past, it seems to be that you're just
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  Speaker 4: letting it all add up and you're not forgiving the
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  Speaker 4: daily things either, And that just I mean, think of
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  Speaker 4: carrying around all that weight all the time and trying
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  Speaker 4: to live this hard life that it already is. It
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  Speaker 4: stops you and gets you stuck a lot of times.
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  Speaker 4: And also it's really hard to explain what forgiveness does
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  Speaker 4: because it's like something you can't hold on to. You
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  Speaker 4: can't it's a spiritual thing that makes no sense really.
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  Speaker 4: But when I walk people through how to forgive because
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  Speaker 4: we're not taught how to forgive either, it's not just
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  Speaker 4: like I forgive them and you're good. I mean I
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  Speaker 4: have them visualize the person. I have them go through
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  Speaker 4: this whole visualization process and name every single thing that
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  Speaker 4: person did to them. So there's naming it out loud,
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  Speaker 4: then saying I forgive you and handing them off to
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  Speaker 4: Jesus and saying it's your And it's very powerful, but
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  Speaker 4: you can't explain it until you do it right.
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  Speaker 3: And the freedom that it brings.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean I years ago, sat down one day
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  Speaker 4: before I did any of this health coaching and felt
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  Speaker 4: the Lord convicting me of having to forgive people. And
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was like one person, and he told
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  Speaker 4: me to make a list. I started making a list
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  Speaker 4: and it was a page long, and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I was shocked.
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  Speaker 4: Shocked, but it brought so much healing to start going, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm holding this stuff against all these people.
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  Speaker 3: That's exhausting.
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  Speaker 2: That's exhausting and an what an honest what an honest exercise.
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  Speaker 2: It's being honest with yourself. It's also being honest with God.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not like you said. It's not saying it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's not saying like what they did wasn't
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  Speaker 2: wasn't painful or hurtful or it's not. It's not absolving
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  Speaker 2: the action. It's saying that that As for me and
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  Speaker 2: my part, I'm not going to hold onto this anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me think of do you like to garden?
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever kept a garden?
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  Speaker 3: Not great at it?
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  Speaker 2: Not not great at it? Much much more into the
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  Speaker 2: kombucha and sourdough thing. Yeah, So it makes me think
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  Speaker 2: of a garden. I like to garden, or I like
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  Speaker 2: to think I like to garden. It's not my favorite
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  Speaker 2: thing to do. But if I have a garden and
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to grow some tomatoes, which are much harder
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  Speaker 2: than it sounds, by the way, If I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: grow some tomatoes and I've got these weeds springing up
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  Speaker 2: in my planner boxes, the weeds steal nutrients from the
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  Speaker 2: good plant, right, And if I have a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: weeds stealing nutrients from the good plant, the good plant
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  Speaker 2: is going to be well, it's going to be stunted
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  Speaker 2: and its growth. There's only so much nutrients to go
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  Speaker 2: around in the soil, and sometimes the weeds can can
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  Speaker 2: choke it out, and sometimes the weeds can overshadow it
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  Speaker 2: and all that, and so so if I let those
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  Speaker 2: weeds accumulate, my good fruit won't grow. And forgiveness is
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  Speaker 2: kind of like that. It's like, throughout your life, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have these little little things spring up that
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  Speaker 2: can steal the nutrients from the good plant of your life,
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  Speaker 2: from the good soil of your heart and your mind.
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  Speaker 2: And when you remove those weeds, then you well, you're
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  Speaker 2: kind of free. You're not carrying it around anymore. You
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  Speaker 2: you've got all the nutrients and goodness that you need
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  Speaker 2: in the soil of your life. But to carry this
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  Speaker 2: metaphor just a little farther, if I pull the if
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  Speaker 2: I pull the top of the weed out, weed whack them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if I we whack them and I don't get the root,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't fix it. They'll they'll they'll spring back up,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes even stronger than before. Right. And so what you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about there is is actually getting the root. You
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  Speaker 2: define the whole thing, and you you don't pull any
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  Speaker 2: punches like this is what happened, this is how it hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Here are all the ways it affected my life. Here,
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  Speaker 2: here's here's the at that whole root of that weed.
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  Speaker 2: And then you can pull it out and go here
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  Speaker 2: you go all this stuff. God, I'm not holding on
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  Speaker 2: to do it anymore. That's your weed to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: It's out of the garden of my life. Do you
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  Speaker 2: have anything to add to that? I think that's a
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  Speaker 2: good visual for what you're saying, two.
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  Speaker 4: Things and handing them off to Jesus, like visualizing giving
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  Speaker 4: those people to Jesus, because that's powerful in itself too.
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  Speaker 4: It's saying not only is he a just God and
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  Speaker 4: he can handle things that have happened to you wrongily.
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  Speaker 4: But also that you can say he can do a
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: miracle in that person too, and even he can, he
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: can take care of that person and pray that they
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: see Jesus, you know.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: So that is huge.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: And also you can do this alone one hundred percent.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: You can do this you and God is beautiful that way.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: But I also found power in having another person there
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: because when you're naming those things out loud, someone's there
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: to hear you and say that's valid, like that is real,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: And so that matters because so many things are holding
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: on the inside that no one ever knows, you know.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: And also it can be things in your life that
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: I say often. If you felt it was true, it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: true in this moment. So if you felt like someone
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: looked at you funny and things awful of you, you know,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: that's a simple thing. But if you felt it was true,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: it's true for you. And so that's not going out
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: and telling people, you know, it's when you're forgiving someone,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: it's between you and God and if you feel it,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: you're holding onto it, so it's true for you.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It's like so my son, my son has loose ankles,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: like I do, and he can step off a sidewalk
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: or something and roll it. Poor guy. So I've been
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: through this in my life. I'm going to get to
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: help him walk through this well, no pun intended, but
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: so he rolls his ankle, and at first, as a dad,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, get up, like dust yourself off, stop crying,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: like what's wrong with you? This happens all the time,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: because I've lived through almost forty years of this issue
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: you in myself. But but what I understood in my
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: life was that just because there was a time in
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: my life where I felt like my pain didn't matter
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: to anybody else doesn't mean that my pain doesn't matter.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: And that's not something I should project on my own children.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I need to teach him your pain matters, Like what
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you what you just wrestle with? That hurts man, It's
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: it's awful. I hate that for you. I'm here for you,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: and and here's the deal. Your pain matters. But as
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: your dad, I care so much that this doesn't keep
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: you from living your life to your fullest right. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: that's the thing about forgiveness is acknowledging, Hey, my pain matters.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: This suffering was real, This was difficult and hard at
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the same time. I don't need to let that be
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: what defines my life. I don't need to let that
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: be what eats at me on the inside. I don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: need that to take up any any bandwidth up here.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I don't need to hold on to it in my spirit.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: And this makes me. It reminds me of what Jesus
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: said about forgiveness and judgment as well. He's but if
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: we don't forgive the wrongs done to us, then our
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: father in heaven will not forgive us of the wrongs
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: we've done we've done to him. And he also goes
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: on to say judge not lest you be judged. That
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean don't judge. You got to finish the sentence
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: for whatever judgment we put on somebody else. That is
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the that is the litmus test, that's the judgment that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: will be put on us. So if we're willing to forgive,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: then what God does for us is he gives that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: same level of forgiveness and that same love to us
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: that we're willing to send extend to other people. And
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: so I think that's a wonderful thing to start with
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: in your practice. I'm so grateful that you do it,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and I imagine that the individuals that you work with
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: from a health coaching perspective didn't know they were coming
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to you for that at first, but then weeks after
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: they're like, man, this is wonderful.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah they always, yeah, it's always.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: You have to be really gentle in that, right, but
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: it's but there when they go for it, they're amazed,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: And these people a.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Lot of like my last one, had gone to a
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: bunch of different health coaches and felt like she's gotten nowhere,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: you know, but it wasn't. It wasn't just putting a
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: program on her. It was the inside work that needed health.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: And our health is whole person, right, That's how I
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: approach it. It's not just the body, but it's not
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: without the body.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: So well, so, so you said something there I have
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I have a guy in my mind. There there are
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: some people that I've worked with in my career. I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: so happy I got to help them, and and they
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: they've done amazing things, and their bodies and their minds
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and their spirits have have shifted and changed, and I'm
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: so proud and excited about that. But there are some
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: people in my journey that I wasn't able to help
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: that that I didn't have the tools, I wasn't wise enough,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I wasn't mature enough. Whatever the case was, that that
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: when when I started working with them, I didn't understand
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: how deep things went. So so this is probably a
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: decade ago now, but but I remember working with a
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: guy who was really wrestling with He would call it
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: food addiction. Looking back on it, what I would say
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: is there was there was a numbing mechanism for him
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: that he was using food to cover up. You know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: there was pain, there was suffering, it was difficulty, resentment,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and he was using food to regulate himself when the
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: day was overwhelming, when things were hard, when he was angry,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: whatever he was, he was, you know, digging into recee
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: cups and stuff. So you know, in the infinite wisdom
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of an of a health coach that doesn't understand me. Obviously,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: all you have to do is cut out sugar, dude,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Like that's no problem. Like he could just stop beating
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: sugar like, which, if you're not wrestling with that sounds
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: very easy. Okay, I guess I'll cut out the recy cups.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: But but for him, this was actually way way deeper.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: This had. This had a lot to do with with
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: things that that came out in our sessions. You know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: we're working out and stuff, and somehow we would end
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: up talking about the things his brother did to him
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: when he was young, or the things his his father
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: wasn't there for that he was frustrated about, and the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: things that he was failings as a father and a husband.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: It was like, oh my gosh, no, wonder all you
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: want to do is eat recy cups because that sounds
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: way easier. It sounds way easier than digging into all
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: this pain. But easy he's not good. Easy doesn't mean
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's good. It's it's an indication that something is wrong.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: And I want to, you know, tell our audience here
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: if you find yourself wrestling with behaviors that that from
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a health perspective, you know aren't good, but you can't
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: stop doing them. I would love, I would love for
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you to begin exploring what Lee and I have been
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: talking about here, which is is there anything that I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: need to forgive somebody of because I don't need to
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: hold that anymore. You got enough working against you. Don't
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: let this be one of the things. Right, Do you
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: have anything you'd like to address to individuals who are
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: wrestling with similar.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: And also not just stopping things from doing. If you
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: know all the right things to do and you can't
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: do them like they're exhausted, that's what I find a
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: lot of people come to me like, I know all
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the things, we have so much information, we know what
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: we have to do, but you're not doing them like
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: there's usually more there, you know, and six weeks of
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: pushing yourself doing all the right things is not going
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: to be it either. In the long run, you want things.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: If you do the deep inner work, you're going to
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: be able to sustain your health and do it and enjoy.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It too, well said, well said, thank you for that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's ex fuent. Now, this wisdom is
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: not easy to come by. I know it says it
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: right in scripture. I know it says it. But just
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: because it says it doesn't mean we always do it
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and doesn't mean we always understand it right. So so
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: this is hard one wisdom on your part, I imagine,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And and so so that said, can can you talk
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: to me about how you came to understand this for yourself?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I understand that there were there was a season of stress.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: There is a season of grief and whatnot. But but
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: for you, this this idea of forgiveness and overcoming stress
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and overcoming grief. This is deep to your story. Do
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you know? Actually fun fun fact. Do you know what
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: your name means?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I weary one, doesn't it?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So, so there's two translations, so that the Hebrew.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: The Hebrew, like if you translate Leah literally means weary
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: one or a grieved one. Wow, but you could take that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That sounds right, you know, but but check it out.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Check it out because because you can take a name
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to be a to tell you what you are, or
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: you can take a name to understand who you'll become.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And and so when when you translate it that way,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: it's one who who knows how to deal with grief
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and weariness? Right like whoa Like that's so great because
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: it was so funny when when you when you put
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that in our interview, I was like, what, Like I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: couldn't have planned this any better. Your name is Leah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: did you know? Like that means the one who's.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I never really put it together the way you just worded.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So another another boom moviment. But but so so this
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: is hard one wisdom. You have dealt with grief, you
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: have dealt with stress, You've dealt with forgiveness. So can
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you can you tell me a bit about in your
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: story how how God taught you that this was a
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: part of the health and fitness of your body.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, everything I've learned, I feel like, first I
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: learned in real life. Uh so, Yeah, everything is hard
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: fought and everything that I come with for health coaching
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: is experienced. So I will start like forward. I the
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: forgiveness piece, I feel like came in when I the
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: world was just a mess, right, and I had lots
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: going on, hadwough yeah, even tower though that was part
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: of the like stress, probably working out the sourdough. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: we had a lot of church. Our church sort of
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: exploded at the same time, a lot of church hurt.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: And that's in every relationship. I live in a small
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: town and so every relationship was wrecked in some way
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: by that close friends, family, all sorts of things. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: so that's what started the forgiveness going, like I I
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: can't walk around with this weight every day. I'm gonna
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: these are people I see every day, these are people
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I'm going to live with, you know, whether we and
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: we disagree on things, and people stayed and people left,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: and so that started it. But then in that process,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I learned that there was so many people from my
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: entire growing up years that I had never forgiven and
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I was holding all of that, and.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So that was the process.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: That's what started, and it really took me on a
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: greater journey of healing that I see that as like
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: the pinpoint. But then going through so many other things
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: with wise people helped me grow in so many ways
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: after that. But my story, I lost my dad when
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I was ten. He was sick for two years with
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: a heart disease that he had a heart transplant, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: so he was in the hospital a lot those two years.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: So I mean I had all that weight as a
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: ten year old of feeling like I was taking care
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: of my siblings. I had two other siblings at the time.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: So I'm one that takes on everybody's grief too. Is
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: what happens a lot in my life. I take on
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: one make everybody else feel okay, even though I'm not.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I'll say I'm good. I'm good.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: I got everybody else. But my mom quickly remarried and
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: we moved to a new Town and they had four boys,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: and so I was the oldest of seven very quickly.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so here I am caring for more but
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: also never processing my pain about my dad and so
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: my body. Looking back now, I'm like, doctors knew what
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: they knew at the time, but there's so many things
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: that were happening in my body that I couldn't explain.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: And I had mono multiple times, so of course they
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: took my tonsils out, and then I had team j
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: problems where I was so bad i'd go through physical
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: therapy because my jaw with her. In high school, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: had stomach issues severely and like all these things that
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: they would dislabel stress, but it was just unprocessed grief
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and carrying a lot of weight that I just had
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: nowhere to go with, you know, into college where my
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: one my hands completely went numb in college and they
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: can't figure out ended up just being my muscles getting
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: so tight that it was constricting my nerves.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Can I pause your story for the second? I want,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I want you to continue, but but this is this
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So I do a lot of work in children's ministry.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It's not like my primary job or anything is just
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: a volunteer thing I think is important in our community,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: and my wife does as well. And we were we
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: were just we were just teaching our Wednesday night, like
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: it's like we call halftime ministry, but they dance and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: they sing and they play kickball and then we go
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: through go through scripture together. And this little girl, she's
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: in third grade. She she came up to my wife
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and she's just bawling, like and we're like, oh, no,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: what happened? You know, do you fall on the sidewalk
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: or whatever? You know, I'm coaching kickball over here. I
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: don't I don't know what's going on. I'm just trying
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: to make sure the fourth graders don't yell at the
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: first graders to me, so they get really competitive. And
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: she's just bawling and I and my wife's like, what's
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: what's going on, sweetheart? And she said, I miss my grandma.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Well her grandma died, you know, two months ago, and
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and she was just bawling. And my wife said she
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: walked her through kind of do you know what grief is, sweetheart?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Do you understand? She's like, I don't know why, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: don't want to and she's like no, honey, you're grieving
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: right now and that's okay. And she was explaining to her,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I lost my grandma, I lost my grandpa,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I lost my dad. And she was explaining it to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: this to this young girl, and she just let her
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: talk and then prayed with her and stuff, and she goes, honey,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: it's going to get easier, but it's okay to grieve.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: It's okay. It's okay for this to be a thing.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: And she was saying, like, how many kids get the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: opportunity for somebody to just like tell them what they're
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: going through, Because kids grief. I don't care if you're
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: in I don't care if you're four years old or
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: if you're ten years old. Your body and your mind
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: go through the process of grief that adults do, but
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: most of the time you don't understand what's happening. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: so you're right. It's internalized as anxiety, it's internalized as stress,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and when you internalize that much emotion and feeling, it's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: going to come out in ways that are almost impossible
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to explain, like TMJA or your arm going numb, and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: it affects our immune systems. We're learning that that grief
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: affects our immune system. So everything you're saying is it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: just so like it makes me heartbroken for children to
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: help them and double down on making sure that they
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: can process their grief and whatnot. But it also makes
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: me heartbroken for unhealed adults who went through this stuff
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and then well kept struggling.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: As if I just keep treating the body, which is
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: good and needed, but also if you don't, like we said,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: take care of all the inside stuff, it's just going
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: to keep going.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's going to keep piling up. It's going to keep
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: piling up. So I interrupted you at college, but but
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: it's so powerful and important, please continue.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it just keeps going. So I got married to
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: my high school sweetheart. We moved back home to our hometown.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Life was good.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I have my little siblings, So the youngest are in
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: second grade at the time, you know, so we're spending
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: lots of time with them. When we got married, they're
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: in second grade. So wow, we're fifteen years apart so
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: from the youngest. And so I had my first child
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: when I was twenty six. I honestly remember him being
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: nine months old and being like life because of what
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I had gone through. I was like, a life is
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: too good right now, Something's going to happen. That was
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: the mentality that I had, and real like I didn't
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: just say that as like, oh, something's gonna no, like
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I like felt it. And then it proved true, which
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: is like the worst. You know. Shortly after, my mom
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and so that diagnosis right away,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: you just it's you know, it's gonna be death, you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: like they're most likely. And so here I am new mom,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: running a business, trying to take care of my siblings,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: and trying to take care of my mom, who was
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: my best friend at the time. And she lived a
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: year after which we were very fortunate for that year,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: but it was the year of pure exhaust I was
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: never I mean I would cry, but like I was
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: never processing any of my own stuff.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I was just taking care of everybody else.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: There was too much care of you.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: To take care of ye, right, So when she died,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: then I'm still Now I'm really trying to take care
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: of my brothers because they're in middle school and early
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: high school and I'm trying to be there for them
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: and take have another kid, you know, and but in
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that time, I truly found Jesus. I grew up in
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: the church all my life, but I had never really
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: followed him if I mean, there's a difference, and so
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I believe, but I didn't follow him. And it was
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: like there was a moment when she was sick, my
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: mom was sick that I was like, it just hit me.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Either this world is all we have and it really stinks,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: or there's something more and it's still real, you know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: So it was just that moment, and so began to
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: seek him after she died in a new new way,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: but also very struggling. And so it got to a
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: point where all of a sudden one summer, I thought
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I had food allergies. I blamed it on I removed
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: all food because my stomach was bothered me so bad.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Every time I ate, I would just be sick. And
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: so I was down to eating protein shakes and rice cakes.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: And I'm not kidding, like I said, that's the only
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: thing that doesn't hurt my stomach. And I had friends
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: that kindly gave me, you know, every product, there is,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: every cleanse, every you know, thing that they could throw
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: at me, but I mean none of it worked, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I got to the point where I was in a
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: surgeon's office this exploring options and they were going to
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: scope my stomach and do all these things, and that
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: kind doctor, I still say it was. The Lord asked
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: me multiple times what happened in the spring when this started?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: What happened? What happened?
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: He asked me, probably five times, And I was so oblivious.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: This is how BLIVI was. I looked at them and said.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing, Nothing happened in this nothing.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Nothing happened in the spring. But on my way home,
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I realized my youngest brothers had graduated that spring, and
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: it was the first time I wasn't having to pour
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: into like them and take care of them. And I
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: was like losing that peace of my mom again, you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: like I wasn't being their mom now, you know, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: don't have my mom, so I don't have that connection
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: and you know. And the next day I called a
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: counselor and realized I needed to start. And so that's
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: where I started, as counseling and seeking the Lord.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: But then I found Revelation.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Wellness and started listening to their podcast when I worked out,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: and combining the Word and God and found so much
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: healing in that, and so it just kept going, you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: combining all the things, you know, getting out my grief,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: moving my body, but to truth and seeking the Lord.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: He just kept me, bringing me on a journey healing
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: and restoration more and more.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's us awesome, Thank you, thank you. That. So
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that's a huge story, but you did an amazing job
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: of sharing it succinctly. I think. I think there's so
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: much power and truth in that that that I want
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to stop down on a few things for for our listeners.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: And the first thing is that that our body and
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: our spirit are not separate. Like our spirit influences our
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: body their whole thing. Like and when I say spirit,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I mean like like if I'm grieving, you might not
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: see that in my body, right yeah, but my spirit
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: is is wrestling. I'm having a hard time. Man, I'm
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: crying randomly between like driving from one place to another,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: there's nobody in the car. Finally I'm all by myself
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and I can just let let that go, right. Uh.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: But But that that that comes at of cost and
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a price to the body. For for those who aren't aware,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: there's a there's an amazing set of of research and literature,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Roger Pennabaker did some amazing work. He called it healing
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: it up by writing it down. And the idea though
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: being is that back in the eighties they did they
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: did research showing that if you wrote down your most
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: traumatic memories, if you wrote them down, if you took
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes he had he wrote it down, that
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: actually impacted your immune system. You'd be in a terrible
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: mood for a week, your immune markers or T cells
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and stuff would actually increase in your body. But then thereafter,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: six months later, your incidence of illness compared to the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: average population who didn't go through that, your incidence of
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: illness dropped forty percent by comparison, and you would actually
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: report being less depressed, less anxious, and doing much better.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And that was the start of the research. But the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: idea of being like, how does that work? How does
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: it work that things that I have in my mind
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: and in my heart so to speak, how does that
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: influence and impact the body? And it turns out the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: way God made it, they're not separate, they work together.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of the story where the friends of
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the paralytic man drop them dropped him down from the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: roof to be at Jesus's feet, and Jesus says to
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the man, your sins are forgiven. Like what does that
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: have to do with anything? Guy wants to walk, But
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: that's what he says. That's what he says. He ties
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: right in that moment. He ties the man's spiritual health
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: to the strength of his body. And then you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the Pharisees are all you know up in our like
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: who's this guy? And he's like, Hey, which one's easier
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: to forgive sins or tell this guy to walk? And
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: so he asked him to pick up his mat and walk.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: And I don't believe it's a mistake that those things
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: are tied together in that moment with Christ, because what
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the man needs is to be forgiven, and that has
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a lot to do with him getting up and walking.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And so it's so in your stories that is there's
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a there's a huge, deep truth there that that I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: want our listeners to get, and that is, if you
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: are wrestling in your body with unexplained health issues, and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: you have been for a while, it's very possible that
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that there are things in your spirit that are affecting
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: your body. And this is not wu, this is science,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: this exists, Like we can study this and that and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that wrestling with that will actually improve your your health outcomes.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: It sounds like it did for you.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it doesn't.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: It's not a huge overhaul that you have to do it. It
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: doesn't take much like sit with the Lord and write
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: on an honest prayer today, Like just right out and
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: don't hold back, don't don't edit yourself, just let it
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: all out and then ask him what he has to.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Say to you.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Like you start there, like it can be so simple,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: and he he's like the best at telling you what
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: to do next. So like it doesn't have to be
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: these huge things, but just start to notice, Like when
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I began like I always treated my b over here
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: in one box. You know, my spiritual life in this box.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: You know my emotions over here, And when I finally
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: understood they were all like under one umbrella, it changed everything.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: It changed everything.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, well said, So thank you, thank you
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: so much for sharing that story, and thank you for
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: being open and honest about that. I did also want
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to point out this happens to a lot of moms,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm not I'm not a mom obviously, and I
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: love my wife and I'm so glad she's the mother
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: of my children. That there's this thing that happens in women,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: and that is that. And I say this as a guy, Okay,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I understand. I don't know. I don't know what it's
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: like to be on the receiving end. But you can
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: be going through all this stuff and then you can
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: get pregnant, and then you can have a baby, and
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: you can go through all the physical stress involved of
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: like building a life and breastfeeding and sleep deprivation and
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, and for a while, you kind of
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: lose yourself and you don't have control over that. You're
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you're you are now mom, and you're going to be
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: mom by golly, despite whatever else, whatever whatever else was
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: going on. Uh. When you are on the other side
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: of that, though, it's not like all that stuff in
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: your life didn't happen, it's still it still can affect you.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: It can still affect your health, it can still affect
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: your your physical body and stuff and so and so,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: what I love about your story is that is that
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: God gave you the opportunity to become a mom. God
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: God gave you the strength you needed to be there
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: for your siblings and whatnot. But he also guided you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: in a process of healing so that that wasn't your
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: whole story for the rest of your life. You could
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: be a grandma someday still with all that stuff. But
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: but uh, but as a as a mom going through
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: that in your heart and mind, is that something that
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: that you could deal with with toddlers? Is this something
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: you have to be at a certain stage of motherhood
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: before you can look back on those stuff in your heart?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: But what do you believe about moms seeking their freedom
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: from grief and stress and also for forgiveness.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's never a good time in motherhood to do it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Write like I'm just starting to get a high, Like
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I have a high high schooler now, and it's so busy.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: It's crazy, you know, Like I thought I was busy
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: before I didn't know busy, Like you know what I mean.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: It's just so there's never a good time. It's And
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: the people who come in for health coaching, they feel
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: like they have this guilt for like taking care of themselves,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: and we almost put it. I'd almost even say it's
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: a pride of like I can do this all, Like
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: we think we need to do everything and we don't
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: need to take care of ourselves in that like that,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: let's just throw that out the way. Does it does
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: not take a long time. None of this takes long,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: but it takes promising yourself you'll show up. When I
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: started counseling, I told myself I would not counsel I
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: would not cancel a single session because I knew every
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: time it was gonna come up, I didn't want to
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: do it, and I didn't have time, and I needed
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: to be with my kids because my kids were young
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: and I was driving. They didn't have online counseling at
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the time, so I was driving an hour and spending
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: an hour there and then driving an hour home. Who
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: was time for three hours every other week?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so selfish leaving my kids with a
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: babysitter when I could barely get a babysitter for my worktime.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: You know, Like.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: It's never easy, but it's so worth it, because if
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: we're not healing ourselves, we're just gonna like put that
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: on our kids. Like if I still felt all that
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: the anger that would come up quicker when they're like
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: messing up, would it just wouldn't be good. But it
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: doesn't take a lot. And even my last person, I
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: health coach, she came in and she thought, like, the
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: homework's gonna be so the homework's gonna be so much.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: I don't have time to overhaul my life. I have
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: two kids, I work, you know, all the things. But
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: it doesn't take a lot. She just started waking up
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: in the morning and listening to up a lectio three
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: sixty five, which is just like a be still time
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: with the Word of Jesus. Like she started there, so
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: what's ten minutes? And that then it added to something
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: else and now she enjoys it so much she doesn't
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: want to give that up. And so it's just adding
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: little things and or making little space for you to
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: simply be and and you can work through these things
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: in simple ways. It doesn't have to be these huge
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: things and doesn't even have to be counseling or you
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: know what. It can be starting with forgiveness and you'll
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: see this huge shift and you know, take a half
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: hour and do that, and it's good. It's good to
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: do that even when your kids are busy. It's good
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: to make that space.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. One of the reasons I love exercise
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: as a as a habit, is, as a good habit,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: as a redeeming habit is because this this idea of
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: taking time for myself, idea of carving out a space
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to move to do something that's good for me too,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you know, to have to plan around that, like and
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: you know, the cool thing about exercise is you can't
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: really do a lot of other things while you exercise.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: You can't. You can't be like like, I'm also gonna
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: mop while I do my stretching, Like, no, you're not.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. You need you need to stretch,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: or or I'm I'm also going to uh plan out
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the budget while I go for a run, Like good
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: luck with that. You might think a little better. You
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: might be able to solve a few problems. You're not
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: going to be able to keep all those numbers in
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: your head, right, You just got to run right in.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: What's what I love about exercise is for me in
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: my life, you know, hence the hence the setup. It
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: has always forced me to spend time with my father,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: whether it's whether it's in worship, whether it's in thought
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: and prayer, whether it's just Uh. I don't know how
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you feel about this, but when I get broken down physically,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: when I'm at the end of a very terrible set
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: or something, you can't not pray. Have you heard the Joe? Uh?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: It's a pastor. He gets to heaven and a taxi
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: driver gets to heaven and and they're standing in line,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and Saint Peter, it's a silly joke. This is not
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: this is not like like scriptural, but it's it's it's
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: still kind of funny. And so the pastor gets a
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: gets a wool robe and a wooden staff, and then
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the taxi driver comes up to Saint Peter and he
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: he's a welcome, good and faithful servant. He gets a
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: golden staff and a silver robe. And the Pastor's like, wait,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I'm a pastor, he's a taxi driver. What what's going
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: on here? And Saint Peter goes, well, well, when you
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: preached your sermons, everybody fell asleep, but when that man
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: drove people were praying.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: That's funny.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: It's such a dumb joke. But but like exercise can
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: do that because it breaks you down to the root
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: of yourself, where where there's no pretense, there's no there's
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: no I can do this on my own. My physical
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: body literally can't go on. And guess what happens. You
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: start going, Lord help me, Lord, Lord, I'm not enough,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Like there's only have a little bit left. Please be
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: with me, you know. Like it's it's so strange the
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: prayers that can come out when you realize that you
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: can't do this all by yourself. And exercise is such
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: a cool discipline in that respect because because if I
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: say to somebody, hey, I need you to pray first
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: thing in the morning for ten minutes, not everybody knows
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: how to how to how to approach God's heart groggy
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and coffee. It's something you can learn. It's not a
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: bad discipline. But if I say, hey, I need you
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: to go for a ten minute walk, and while you're walking,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I want you, I want you to thank God for
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: your day, and I want you to spend some time
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: with your father, and I want you, I want you
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: to listen to some worship music that that really lifts
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: you up. And that's that's all you're going to do
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: for ten minutes. What's what's cool is when you set
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: a timer and go for a walk, you walked, Yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: whereas you know, some some individuals, if I asked them
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: to spend ten minutes in prayer in the morning, they
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: somehow end up on their phone. Anyway, It's huge. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: love that exercise is a discipline you have. You have
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: some workshops that you get to teach. Can you tell
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: us about how how you help people make the space
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: yea or for coming together and spending time in their
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: exercise discipline.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do these be still stretching and journaling classes
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: that are an hour and a half and they're always
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: on a certain topic. Like my next one's about when
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: anxiety is overwhelming, how to breathe through it. And so
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: we teach like I teach the science, like I. First,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: we slow our bodies down, we do some breathing always,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: but I teach the science first because God God designs science,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: so people want to know the science behind these things.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: So we teach the science.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Then I move into usually a journaling practice, and so
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: it's guided journaling. They're not left on their own to
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: do whatever, but it's questions to really reflect and so
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: they're getting that soul work done in that time that
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: they don't often don't make time for right, So I'm
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: just creating the space and time. You schedule this class
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: and then you get to sit and then you go
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: do it right, get to go do it, and you're
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: guided through it. You don't have to wonder what do
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I do?
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: What do I do? In the time.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: So they work through that and then I move into
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: biblical teaching on the topic. And then we stretch and
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: we do really slow gentle stretches, but we get it
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: in our body, so we just learn things. But now
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: we're gonna, you know, move to gentle music and be
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: reminded of what we learned throughout it and keep stretching
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: our bodies. And then we have time where we just
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: lay on the mat. They're just laying. They get a blanket,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: a pillow, a good smelling lavender towel, you know, all
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: the good things. So they're very rusted. Yeah, we just
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: meditate on that. So we'll do breath prayers, we'll do
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: meditating much on scripture, asking questions of the Lord. But
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: it's such a sweet time and people are so restored
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: after it and feel.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Like that it was so good. We need that space.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: We don't when do we ever carve ninety minutes out
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: just to go slow? Like not very often I mean
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: even like.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: A year ago. I think I did a year ago.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just yeah, right exactly. But it's so so needed.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Thank you for that. I think
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: that's so good, you know. I when when I I
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: disciple men in my community, and one of the things
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: that I do is I'll say, hey, I want you
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: to meet me at my house. I want you to
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  Speaker 2: come fasted, and we'll go from there and I will
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  Speaker 2: take I will drive them. We live in the great
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  Speaker 2: State of Arkansas, so so there's the state parks all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. It's the natural state. I will drive
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  Speaker 2: them to a hike. We will hike, and then we
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  Speaker 2: will literally sit at a waterfall and just spend time talking, praying,
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  Speaker 2: and then and get under the waterfall, because that's what
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  Speaker 2: guys do, and latest canto I highly and then and
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  Speaker 2: then peace out. And it's like, oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 2: needed that so much. I know that that's how I
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  Speaker 2: get away and spend time with my father. Jesus did
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  Speaker 2: that all the time. That was that's how he did it.
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  Speaker 2: And and creating that space in an exercise workshop sort
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  Speaker 2: of sort of way is so so powerful. So I
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  Speaker 2: just want to say from me to you. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: for what you do. I think that's amazing. Exercises great,
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  Speaker 2: Lifting heavyweights is awesome, Jumping around and doing jumping jacks
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  Speaker 2: is powerful. Going for runs, eating, well, all that's good.
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  Speaker 2: All that's good. But if our soul is separate from
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  Speaker 2: that practice, our if our spirit and the things we
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  Speaker 2: need to forgive and the grief we're wrestling through, if
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  Speaker 2: it's separate from that practice, sometimes it can do more
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  Speaker 2: harm than good. And I just want to say I'm
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  Speaker 2: so grateful that you're helping individuals integrate that, and I
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  Speaker 2: also want to recognize God's goodness and helping you do
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  Speaker 2: the same for yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And when we do separate, I'd just like to say,
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  Speaker 4: we treat our bodies like a project, like something to
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  Speaker 4: be fixed, separate than us, but when we combine them,
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  Speaker 4: it's just something to be cared for and take like
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  Speaker 4: it's a gift. And so it just changes your mindset
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  Speaker 4: when you bring worship and your whole self into taking
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  Speaker 4: care of your body.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, well said. Well, this has been such
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  Speaker 2: such a useful and powerful conversation. Thank you, Leah, And
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to point listeners to you. You actually have
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  Speaker 2: a free ebook that they can get connected to. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: think the title is Let's Reclaim the Truth about Our Body.
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  Speaker 2: That link is in the show notes. Can you can
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  Speaker 2: you tell my listeners when when they get a hold
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: of that, what are they going to find in there?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Let's Reclaim the Truth about our body?
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  Speaker 4: There's five days in there to read, a super short thing,
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  Speaker 4: just different truths about your body and the biblical perspective
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  Speaker 4: on that. We learned so much from the world. The
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: world has told we let the world be our teacher
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  Speaker 4: about our body. But God says a lot about it
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  Speaker 4: in his word, and so you'll just discover that in
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: there of what he says about your body. And then
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  Speaker 4: there's truth cards at the back that you can post
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  Speaker 4: on your mirror so you can repeat that truth of yourself.
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  Speaker 4: But it's good to know what he's saying about our
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  Speaker 4: body because it's a very different from what the world
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  Speaker 4: has said.
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  Speaker 2: True. That true, that's that's and he made it. So
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  Speaker 2: like let's let's let him tell us what we need
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  Speaker 2: to think and do about it. Yes, yes, awesome. Well,
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  Speaker 2: hey Leah, thank you so much for the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: get together. I want to make sure that I pray
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  Speaker 2: over you and pray over your family and your ministry.
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  Speaker 2: So if you would buy your head with me. Yeah, Father, God,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for this day. Thank you for
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to connect with my sister, and thank you
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  Speaker 2: for the path that you have led her on. Leah
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean she's weary and grieving. Leah means that she
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: is one you have talked to deal with grief and
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  Speaker 2: to deal well with weariness. And God, I just pray
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  Speaker 2: that you would bless that in her so that she
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: can help other individuals to be able to wrestle that
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  Speaker 2: out too, to get close to your heart. That you
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: would give them rest and peace in the workshops that
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: she leads. That you would bless her words as she
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: speaks over her children and her husband and the individuals
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  Speaker 2: that she leads when they work out. Lord, I just
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  Speaker 2: pray that you would also give her good health and
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  Speaker 2: good joy in the time that she spends with you. Lord,
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  Speaker 2: I pray freedom, grace, and blessing in the truths that
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  Speaker 2: you've spoken over her, and I pray that those things
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  Speaker 2: will trickle into those who have been informed by the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: world but need to be close to your heart so
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: that their bodies are a part of their walk with
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  Speaker 2: you not separate. God, bless this time and bless our
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: listeners in Jesus' name, Amen, man Leah, thank you so
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: much for the time today. Guys, this has been coach
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Alex ben Holton on the Faithful Fitness podcast. You guys
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• 54:41
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