Latest / Reformed Thinking / Were Adam and Eve Created Holy? | Jonathan Edwards
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- 0:00Welcome to reformed thinking. Great to be diving in again
- 0:03today. We're really getting back to
- 0:04basics, the very beginning of the human story.
- 0:07We're looking at Adam, our first father, before the fall.
- 0:10Right. Specifically his state at
- 0:12creation. And this isn't just some
- 0:14abstract theological point, is it?
- 0:16It shapes how we understand well everything that follows sin,
- 0:19morality, even redemption. It really does.
- 0:22Our focus today is on what's called the Doctrine of Original
- 0:25Righteousness, or Dior for short, and we're digging into
- 0:29how Jonathan Edwards defended this idea.
- 0:31Yeah, Edwards mounted a pretty powerful defense, didn't he?
- 0:34We're looking at his sources, particularly how he argued
- 0:37against a major opponent known as Doctor T.
- 0:39That's the one Doctor T denied that Adam was actually created
- 0:42wholly. So our mission, if you like, is
- 0:44to unpack Edwards's arguments, the logic, the scripture for
- 0:49believing Adam was created holy, positively good, not just
- 0:52neutral. We want to understand why
- 0:54Edwards believed that. Why was it so crucial that Adam
- 0:57wasn't just a blank slate? The sources really layout this
- 1:00clash of worldviews. Was Adam created with, you know,
- 1:03genuine holiness, a real disposition to love God?
- 1:06Or was his heart neutral, like needing to figure things out,
- 1:10make choices, reflect before any virtue could even exist?
- 1:14Doctor T was firmly in that second camp.
- 1:17He was for him any goodness fixed by God from the start
- 1:21wasn't true virtue because it wasn't chosen by Adam himself.
- 1:24So that's the core question we're wrestling with today.
- 1:26Did Adam start holy or did he start neutral?
- 1:30And the answer has huge implications.
- 1:32If he was neutral, the fall is maybe just a learning error, a
- 1:36mistake. But if he started holy.
- 1:38Then the fall becomes this massive, catastrophic rebellion
- 1:43against the way things were meant to be against goodness
- 1:45itself. So let's dig into why Edwards
- 1:48insisted that initial goodness was absolutely necessary.
- 1:51OK, so to really get Edwards points, we first need to
- 1:54understand what he was arguing against.
- 1:56What was Doctor T's big issue with original righteousness?
- 1:59It all comes down to what Doctor T called his grand objection,
- 2:02and it's basically rooted in his definition of what virtue even
- 2:05is what. Do you think it was then?
- 2:06Well, fundamentally, he believed that for something to count as
- 2:09virtuous, you know, morally praiseworthy, deserving reward,
- 2:14the person, the moral agent, has to actively contribute to it.
- 2:18It can't just be. Given so it can't be something
- 2:21God just implants. Exactly, he argued.
- 2:24Holiness couldn't be con created, meaning created along
- 2:27with Adam's nature by God's power right at the beginning.
- 2:30That wouldn't count. Why not?
- 2:32If God makes something good, isn't it good?
- 2:34For Doctor T, the issue is moral credit.
- 2:37If God just wires Adam to be good, then Adam is just acting
- 2:41out of necessity like a like a well made machine.
- 2:44A clock ticking correctly you mentioned earlier.
- 2:46Right. A clock doesn't get praise for
- 2:48keeping time. So for Doctor T, if God just
- 2:50puts righteousness into Adam without Adam's own active
- 2:53involvement, his own free choice and agreement, what he called
- 2:56concurrence, then it's just no holiness at all.
- 2:58So the agents free conscious agreement was absolutely
- 3:01essential in his view. Totally essential.
- 3:03The goodness had to come from the creature's will operating,
- 3:06you know, independently, not predetermined.
- 3:08And it. Wasn't just about agreement
- 3:10being after the fact, was it? The sources say he required a
- 3:13specific process. Yes, that's key.
- 3:16The person had to exercise thought and reflection before
- 3:20they could be considered righteous.
- 3:21Righteousness had to be the fruit of preceding choice.
- 3:24Fruit of preceding choice. So the choice comes first, then
- 3:28the righteousness. That's his model.
- 3:30It's not enough for Adam to eventually choose good things.
- 3:33The very principle of goodness within him, like love for God,
- 3:37had to be generated by Adam's own prior self determining
- 3:40choice. Wow, OK so if Adam just woke up
- 3:43on day 6 already loving God. Doctor T would say that's just a
- 3:47natural feeling, maybe like hunger or thirst, not truly
- 3:49moral holiness unless Adam consciously chose to activate or
- 3:53create that love first. So saying, righteousness was
- 3:56brought into his nature at creation.
- 3:58Was for Doctor TA, contradiction in terms.
- 4:02Virtue, in his mind, absolutely had to be an achievement,
- 4:05something earned through the will deciding for itself.
- 4:07This idea of the self determining will seems pretty
- 4:10central here. Can you unpack that a bit?
- 4:12What does it mean in this context?
- 4:14Sure, it's this idea that the will has a kind of independent
- 4:19power to choose not just its actions, but even its own
- 4:23inclinations or desires, without being caused by anything else,
- 4:27either outside or inside. So the will stands apart from
- 4:30motives and decides. Kind of like it's outside the
- 4:33chain of cause and effect, it just generates its own moral
- 4:35state. So for Doctor T, if God put love
- 4:38for God and Adam first, that love, a motive and inclination,
- 4:43would determine Adam's choices, making them necessary, not free,
- 4:46and therefore not virtuous. The will has to be the cause of
- 4:49its own goodness, not just the performer of good actions
- 4:52flowing from a good nature. That's the core of it.
- 4:54The will has to start from a point of like indifference and
- 4:58freely choose the good without being pushed there by any
- 5:00pre-existing inclination. OK, I think I see the setup and
- 5:03Edwards argues this whole structure just.
- 5:05Falls apart completely, he argues.
- 5:07It ties itself in knots. Dr. T basically sets up a
- 5:10requirement that makes it impossible for Adam to ever
- 5:13actually become righteous. Right, so Edwards doesn't just
- 5:15say Doctor T's wrong, he takes Doctor T's own ideas and shows
- 5:19how they actually contradict each other.
- 5:21Exactly, he points out. The Doctor T's view that virtue
- 5:24must come from a prior choice clashes with basic logic, common
- 5:28sense, and crucially, with Doctor T's own definition of
- 5:32what virtue fundamentally is. That's clever, using the
- 5:35opponent's own premises against them, it's.
- 5:37Very effective. See, Doctor T, like a lot of
- 5:39thinkers at the time, actually agreed with people like
- 5:42Hutchison that the real core, the essence of virtue, is good
- 5:46affection, basically benevolence or love.
- 5:49And Doctor G himself said this. Explicitly, he stated that all
- 5:53real moral goodness, all moral rectitude, boils down to the
- 5:56single principle of love. He even used the Bible verse.
- 5:59You know love is the fulfilling of the law.
- 6:01OK, so virtue is love. That's premise one from Doctor
- 6:04T. Right premise.
- 6:05A virtue equals love. But then remember premise B.
- 6:09Premise B Virtue requires a preceding choice.
- 6:12It has to be the fruit of choice.
- 6:13OK, now put them together. This is where Edward springs the
- 6:16trap. If all moral goodness is love
- 6:19premise A, then logically no choice can be morally good
- 6:22unless it flows from love. Love has to be the source, the
- 6:25principle behind the choice. Makes sense.
- 6:28A good action comes from a good heart, a good intention.
- 6:30But wait, Doctor T also insists premise B that the principle of
- 6:35love itself can't be virtuous unless it comes from a preceding
- 6:38choice. I see the loop.
- 6:41It's a complete circle. Virtuous love has to come before
- 6:44virtuous choice, but virtuous choice has to come before
- 6:48virtuous love. You can't have one without the
- 6:50other coming first. It's impossible.
- 6:52Edwards calls it an evident contradiction.
- 6:54It's like saying you need the fruit before you can have the
- 6:57tree, but the tree has to exist before you can have the fruit.
- 7:00Which comes first? Neither can according to this
- 7:03logic. So how could Adam ever get
- 7:05started on being virtuous? He couldn't.
- 7:08Edwards lays it out. Imagine Adam created totally
- 7:11without love, as Doctor T requires.
- 7:13Adam needs to make his first virtuous choice.
- 7:15Let's say he chooses OK, I will now love God.
- 7:18But he doesn't have love yet, by definition.
- 7:21Right. So that choice doesn't proceed
- 7:22from love. And if the choice doesn't
- 7:24proceed from love, according to Doctor T's own rule, that virtue
- 7:28is love, that initial choice is well, it's not virtuous.
- 7:31It's morally emty. O The very first step required
- 7:34to become virtuous is itself not a virtuous step.
- 7:38Exactly. It's impossible, Edwards says.
- 7:41There's just no way that can possibly be devised for Adam to
- 7:44get righteousness going under Doctor TS scheme.
- 7:47He's trapped in neutrality. And Edwards traces this back to
- 7:50that idea of the self determining will.
- 7:52Yeah, he blames these confused, inconsistent assertions on that
- 7:57faulty view of the will, this idea that the will have to
- 8:00somehow kick start its own goodness from a state of
- 8:03nothingness, of indifference. But a choice made from
- 8:05indifference can't magically create love, can it?
- 8:08It just creates another indifferent choice, presumably.
- 8:12Or an arbitrary 1. Edwards argues that a rational
- 8:15being, a moral agent, can't actually be neutral.
- 8:17They have to have some inclination, some preference,
- 8:20Otherwise they'd just be inert, unable to use anything.
- 8:22Paralyzed. Right, and if they have an
- 8:24inclination, it's either pointed towards the right thing, God,
- 8:27supreme goodness, or towards lesser things.
- 8:29There's no middle ground for a creature commanded to love God
- 8:32supremely from the get go. So if Adam was created as a
- 8:36functioning moral being under God's law.
- 8:38He had to be created with the right inclination already
- 8:41present. That principle of love, that
- 8:43relish for God's excellence, had to be built in.
- 8:47It's a logical requirement of creating a good moral agent
- 8:50subject to God's law. OK, so Edwards has shown the
- 8:53logical flaws in Doctor TS position.
- 8:55It just doesn't hold together. But he doesn't stop with logic,
- 8:58does he? He moves on to Scripture, right?
- 9:01He turns to the Bible, specifically the first 3
- 9:03chapters of Genesis, the historical account, to show that
- 9:06the narrative itself demands original righteousness.
- 9:10How does the story support it? The first key point is really
- 9:13simple, almost obvious when you think about it.
- 9:16The whole story assumes that eating the forbidden fruit with
- 9:19the first sin he committed. OK, yeah, that seems clear from
- 9:22the text. And if that was the first sin,
- 9:24what does that imply about his state before that moment?
- 9:27That he hadn't sinned yet he must have been righteous.
- 9:30Perfectly righteous, Yes. Edwards argues that if Adam was
- 9:34perfectly righteous right up until that first sin, then he
- 9:37must have been created or brought into existence.
- 9:40Righteous. His initial state was
- 9:41righteousness. It connects his creation
- 9:44directly to his moral condition. Exactly.
- 9:47But why did that righteousness have to be created in him?
- 9:50Why couldn't He have just, you know, maintain neutrality until
- 9:54that point? Because of the commands.
- 9:56Precisely. Adam wasn't just created and
- 9:58left alone. He was created as a moral agent,
- 10:01immediately under obligation, under a rule of right action.
- 10:05From the very first moment he existed and was conscious, he
- 10:08owed obedience to God. And you can't obey properly
- 10:11without the right inner disposition.
- 10:13That's the link. Acting rightly requires an
- 10:17inclination to write action. You can't fulfill the command to
- 10:20love God supremely if you don't actually have an inclination, A
- 10:23disposition towards loving God. So if the obligation was
- 10:27immediate. The inclination had to be
- 10:29immediate. To that necessary inclination
- 10:32present at the very first moment of existence, is what we mean by
- 10:35being created with a virtuous and holy disposition of heart.
- 10:38Which makes Doctor TS idea that Adam had to do things first like
- 10:42reflect to get a good disposition seem backward.
- 10:45Edwards calls it grossly inconsistent.
- 10:49Think about it. If Adam's first duty was, say,
- 10:52to reflect on God's command in the right way, that act of
- 10:55reflection itself has to be a right action.
- 10:58And a right action needs a right motive, a right inclination
- 11:00behind it. Yes, the good disposition has to
- 11:03be the principal or spring from which even the first right
- 11:06actions proceed. You can't perform the duty of
- 11:09reflection in order to obtain the good disposition, because
- 11:12performing that duty rightly already requires the good
- 11:15disposition. So if Adam started neutral,
- 11:18without love for God, how could he even begin to reflect on
- 11:21God's command with the proper seriousness or regard?
- 11:24He couldn't if he had no love or regard for God.
- 11:26Initially, any reflection wouldn't be motivated by
- 11:29obedience or love. It would be motivated by, well,
- 11:32who knows, curiosity, self-interest, but not by a
- 11:36supreme regard for God. And since Doctor T himself
- 11:39agreed that love is the core of all moral rectitude.
- 11:42Then if Adam is required to do any right act at all upon
- 11:44existing, even just thinking correctly about God's command,
- 11:47he must have already possessed that principle of divine love
- 11:50from the very start. God wouldn't command something
- 11:53impossible if the law applied instantly.
- 11:55The capacity to obey the right heart disposition must also have
- 11:59been instant. That's the inference.
- 12:02To suggest otherwise implies God created Adam under a law he was
- 12:05inherently incapable of fulfilling for moment one, which
- 12:09would make the initial creation defective.
- 12:12Not very good. The moral goodness had to be
- 12:16there from the start. OK, so we have the logical
- 12:18argument and the argument from the timing of the first sin in
- 12:20Genesis. What else does Edwards draw from
- 12:23the Genesis account? He makes another really
- 12:25interesting inference, this time looking at the setting, the
- 12:28Garden of Eden itself, Adam's situation before the fall,
- 12:31Paradise. Exactly.
- 12:32The Bible paints this picture of Adam in incredibly happy
- 12:36circumstances, surrounded by evidence of God's favor,
- 12:38blessings everywhere. A state of peculiar favors, the
- 12:41sources call it. Right, it seems like an ideal
- 12:43place. OK, now hold that picture of
- 12:45God's blessing in favor and contrast it with Doctor T's idea
- 12:49that Adam was created morally neutral without any inherent
- 12:53principle of holiness, Edwards says.
- 12:55Those two ideas just don't fit together.
- 12:57How so? Why is neutrality inconsistent
- 12:59with paradise? This leads into a fascinating,
- 13:03almost counterintuitive point Edwards makes about what
- 13:06happened after the fall. Think about the curse, Labor,
- 13:09toil, sorrow, death. We usually see those purely as
- 13:12punishment. Yeah, they don't sound like
- 13:13blessings. But Edwards, drawing on the
- 13:15sources, interprets them differently.
- 13:18Yes, they're consequences of sin, but in God's Providence for
- 13:22fallen humanity, they actually serve as restraints, even as
- 13:27advantages for virtue. Advantages.
- 13:29How can sorrow and toil be advantages?
- 13:32Well, think about fallen people. When life is hard, when we have
- 13:35to work constantly just to survive, when we face sorrow in
- 13:38the reality of death, it tends to curb our appetites.
- 13:41OK, we're maybe less likely to just indulge every whim If we're
- 13:45struggling toil, can wean us from loving the world too much?
- 13:48The shortness of life limits the time we have to keep sinning.
- 13:51These hardships act like brakes on our sinful nature.
- 13:54So for fallen people, the curse actually provides some
- 13:58guardrails against even worse depravity.
- 14:01That's the idea. Necessary restraints for a
- 14:03sinful nature. Now go back to Adam before the
- 14:05fall. According to Doctor T, Adam has
- 14:08no inherent holiness. He's neutral, but capable of
- 14:11choosing anything. OK, and where is he placed?
- 14:14Not in the world of toil and sorrow, but in Eden, surrounded
- 14:18by, as the sources say, most exquisite and alluring sensitive
- 14:22delights. Everything is pleasant, easy,
- 14:24beautiful, and he has no internal restraints from a
- 14:27sinful nature yet, but crucially, under Doctor T's
- 14:30view, no positive internal principle of holiness either,
- 14:34and no external restraints like toil or death.
- 14:37So maximum temptation, minimum resistance.
- 14:40Exactly. Edwards argues that if Adam
- 14:42really lacked inherent holiness, putting him in that environment,
- 14:45with all those pleasures and none of the hardships his fallen
- 14:47descendants face, would put him under unspeakably greater
- 14:50disadvantages for avoiding sin. Wow, that turns things upside
- 14:53down. Paradise becomes the most
- 14:55dangerous place for a neutral being.
- 14:56Precisely all that goodness, all those sensory delights.
- 15:00Without a strong internal compass pointing firmly towards
- 15:03God, it would be overwhelming. How long before the sheer beauty
- 15:08and pleasure of creation pulls His focus away from the Creator?
- 15:12So under Doctor TS view, the garden isn't really a blessing.
- 15:15It becomes, as Edwards puts it, a mere beat, a setup for
- 15:19failure, a magnificent trap designed, functionally speaking,
- 15:23to ensure Adam would fall and fall quickly, which completely
- 15:27contradicts the Genesis portrayal of Eden as a place of
- 15:30God's special favor. And it messes up the whole
- 15:32blessing curse timeline, doesn't it?
- 15:34Totally. If Doctor T is right, then the
- 15:37real curse, the situation most dangerous to Adam's soul, was
- 15:40before the Fall in the supposedly blessed garden.
- 15:43And the things we call the cursed toil, sorrow, death, that
- 15:46restraints actually become God's great favors given after the
- 15:49fall to help manage sin. It completely inverts the story.
- 15:53Moses clearly shows the change in circumstances, the curse
- 15:56following the sin as a consequence of it.
- 15:59That only makes sense if the initial circumstances were
- 16:01genuinely good and advantageous for Adam.
- 16:03Which implies Adam must have had the internal moral stability,
- 16:07the original righteousness needed to handle that level of
- 16:10blessing appropriately. Yes, the external blessings of
- 16:13paradise logically require a corresponding internal goodness
- 16:17in Adam. Otherwise, the blessing itself
- 16:20becomes the instrument of His downfall.
- 16:22OK, so Edwards has built a case from logic, from the timing of
- 16:26the fall, and from the nature of paradise.
- 16:29Does he point to any specific verses that just state original
- 16:32righteousness directly? He does.
- 16:34He moves from inference to what he sees as explicit biblical
- 16:38statement. The key text he brings forward
- 16:40is Ecclesiastes 7.29. What does that verse say?
- 16:43It says lo this only have I found that God made man upright,
- 16:47but they have sought out many inventions.
- 16:49God made man upright. That sounds pretty direct.
- 16:52It does, but of course, Dr. T wasn't going to concede easily.
- 16:55The debate then focused on exactly what man means here, and
- 16:58especially what upright means. Right.
- 17:00How did Edwards define those terms?
- 17:02Let's start with man, Adam in Hebrew.
- 17:04Doctor T tried to argue. It just meant, you know, mankind
- 17:07in general, sort of abstractly. Edwards agrees it means species,
- 17:11but he argues the context points specifically to the species at
- 17:14its origin. When God first made mankind.
- 17:16Exactly when God first made mankind existing in their first
- 17:19parents, Adam and Eve. He points to other verses like
- 17:23in Deuteronomy where scripture talks about the day that God
- 17:26created man, Adam upon the earth currently referring to the
- 17:29beginning. So Solomon isn't just making a
- 17:31general comment about people now because obviously people now
- 17:35aren't upright. Right.
- 17:36The verse only makes sense if it's contrasting the original
- 17:38state of creation with what humanity became later.
- 17:41It's about the starting point. OK, so man refers to humanity as
- 17:45originally created in Adam. What about the crucial word
- 17:49upright jashar in Hebrew? Did Doctor T try to weaken that?
- 17:53Oh yes, he tried to suggest it just meant right in some non
- 17:57moral way. Maybe physically well made or
- 17:59having rational faculties, but not morally good.
- 18:02Sort of neutral, but functional. But Edwards pushes back hard on
- 18:06that. Very hard.
- 18:08He argues forcefully that Jashar in biblical usage,
- 18:11overwhelmingly signifies true virtue or moral rectitude and
- 18:15integrity. He knows it's used constantly in
- 18:18Scripture for moral goodness. Like when it says a king did
- 18:21what was right Jashar in the eyes of the Lord.
- 18:23Exactly. That clearly means moral
- 18:26obedience, acting according to God's will, not just, you know,
- 18:28standing up straight, Edwards says.
- 18:31When Solomon uses Jashar here, he means God made man of the
- 18:34right stamp, altogether good in his kind, truly and thoroughly
- 18:38virtuous as he ought to be. Made correctly, morally
- 18:41speaking. Yes, the internal moral compass
- 18:43was pointing the right way. And the verse itself helps
- 18:46define upright by contrasting it with something else.
- 18:48Absolutely. The structure is key.
- 18:50God made man upright, but he they mankind, starting from that
- 18:54original point, have sought out many inventions.
- 18:57And what are the many inventions?
- 18:58Edwards argues these are clearly things sinful or morally evil.
- 19:03Solomon is setting up a direct contrast.
- 19:05God's original work was moral rectitude, just shar, But
- 19:09humanity's subsequent activity has been the pursuit of moral
- 19:12evil. Many inventions.
- 19:14You can't contrast neutrality with evil like that.
- 19:16You contrast good with evil. Precisely the contrast itself
- 19:20proves that the original state upright must have been one of
- 19:24positive moral goodness, not just neutrality or potential.
- 19:28Did Doctor T have a counter for the many inventions part?
- 19:32I think I remember something about him saying Adam's first
- 19:34sin was only one invention. He did try that, yeah, Saying,
- 19:38you know, the fall was one act, not many.
- 19:40So the verse can't be about the fall.
- 19:42Edward saw that as pretty weak. How did he respond?
- 19:44He argued the many inventions refer to the consequences, the
- 19:48fall, the flood of different sins, the innumerable ways of
- 19:51sinning, the many lusts and corruptions that came pouring
- 19:54out after that first act of apostasy.
- 19:56The first sin opened the door to the multitude of subsequent
- 19:59evils. So the many inventions are the
- 20:01result of losing the original uprightness.
- 20:04Exactly. The verse paints a clear
- 20:05picture. Original state Jasher, moral
- 20:09rectitude created by God. Subsequent state.
- 20:11Many inventions. Manifold sinfulness sought out
- 20:14by man. The moral goodness came first
- 20:16from God. The corruption came second from
- 20:18humanity's choice. So, interpreting Jasher and the
- 20:21structure of the verse in context, Edwards concludes
- 20:24Ecclesiastes 7.29 is explicit testimony for original
- 20:29righteousness. Yes, he sees it as proving God
- 20:32didn't create a moral vacuum, but a morally excellent being
- 20:36who then chose to corrupt that God-given goodness.
- 20:39Well, that's quite a comprehensive case, Edwards
- 20:41builds. We've walked through a lot of
- 20:42ground here in this deep dive. We really have.
- 20:45From the pure logic to the scriptural accounts, it seems
- 20:48Edwards defense of original righteousness really stands on 2
- 20:51main pillars, doesn't it? Yeah.
- 20:53What would you say those are summarizing?
- 20:55First, there's that logical pillar, the sheer impossibility
- 20:58of Doctor TS scheme working. You just can't have virtuous
- 21:01choice requiring prior love, while virtuous love requires
- 21:04prior choice. It's a dead end.
- 21:06Love, the principle has to come first.
- 21:08Right, the fountain has to exist before the stream.
- 21:10Exactly. And 2nd there's the scriptural
- 21:12pillar drawing from Genesis. Both the fact that sin had a
- 21:16definite starting point, implying prior righteousness.
- 21:19And the fact that paradise only makes sense as a blessing if
- 21:22Adam had an internal holiness capable of navigating it.
- 21:25Otherwise, it's just a trap. Plus that explicit statement in
- 21:29Ecclesiastes. God made man upright.
- 21:32Taken together, Edwards argues, the evidence is overwhelming.
- 21:36So Adam wasn't created neutral waiting to earn goodness.
- 21:39He was created positively good of the right stamp, as Edwards
- 21:43put it. With a moral rectitude that love
- 21:46for God built into his very nature from the start.
- 21:49The fall wasn't a stumble on the path to goodness, it was a
- 21:52catastrophic turn away from goodness that was already
- 21:55present. It really reframes the whole
- 21:57narrative. So for you listening as you
- 22:00process all this, here's maybe a final thought to Mull over
- 22:03something to take away from these sources.
- 22:05Really consider the implications of God had done what Doctor T
- 22:08suggested. Imagine creating a rational
- 22:10being instantly responsible under the highest moral law, the
- 22:14law of love, but creating him completely empty of any natural
- 22:17inclination towards the one he's supposed to love.
- 22:19What does the apparent necessity of that pre-existing good
- 22:22disposition which Edwards argued for so strongly, tell you about
- 22:26the nature of God Himself, About the goodness inherent in his
- 22:30original design for creation? And what does it tell you about
- 22:33the depth of the tragedy? When that original good order
- 22:37was corrupted? It wasn't just a mistake.
- 22:39It was the shattering of something intrinsically,
- 22:41originally wonderfully good. Something to think about.