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Cardinals reset after rough week: What's next with Iván Herrera on IL? · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what the hello?
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  Speaker 2: Back by popular demand, the Polo Cencio is my guest
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  Speaker 2: today on Cardinal Territory.
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  Speaker 1: We're coming to you. He's life. I do see the sun.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a nice time.
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  Speaker 2: San Tho's Cardinals probably happy to get out of Boston.
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  Speaker 2: The Red pitching staff as a whole gave up thirty
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  Speaker 2: six runs and forty six hits.
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  Speaker 1: That is not going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: They went one and five over the last week. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: back to reality. Follow what do you.
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  Speaker 3: Got watching the San Luis First of all, before we
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  Speaker 3: get into it, thank you Katie will And I know
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  Speaker 3: when you say by popular the man who was probably
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  Speaker 3: my daughter with her seventeen different handles asking for me
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  Speaker 3: to be back. So thank you Katie and everybody at
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  Speaker 3: Fall Territory. Watching that series of the Cardinals in Boston
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  Speaker 3: was like watching a lamp fall slowly knowing that it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna break, and you cannot do anything to stop that
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  Speaker 3: lamp from falling and breaking. But the lamp doesn't break
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  Speaker 3: because it's made out of plastic like bamboo. It bends,
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  Speaker 3: but it does not break. And just as a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people were not under wagon after the Cardinals swept
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  Speaker 3: the Minnesota Twins. Now people are like, you see, I
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  Speaker 3: told you they were not that good. I mean, we
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  Speaker 3: as fans are really fickle, like when our team and
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  Speaker 3: in this case we're talking about the Cardinals, when they
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  Speaker 3: they sweep somebody, or oh that team is bad, that
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  Speaker 3: team is not. Oh my god, they don't have any
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  Speaker 3: good pitching. But then they lose to the Red Sauce.
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  Speaker 3: You see, I told you we were terrible. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: what who are we? What are we? And I get it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there was a lot of runs and yet
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  Speaker 3: the pitching didn't help. And you know Ryan Helsley, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: how many times is he gonna do that in the season?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe twice?
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  Speaker 3: And you know, Katie and anybody who's followed baseball over
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  Speaker 3: the years, we know that that relievers, especially closers, they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna mess up once or twice a season. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: right in Hellsley, that was his one for the month
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  Speaker 3: of April. You know, hopefully he doesn't have one maybe
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  Speaker 3: until the month of June, and then he goes on
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  Speaker 3: a on a path of destruction and just you know,
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  Speaker 3: burns everybody with the Hell's bells.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it was it was a bad. It was
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  Speaker 4: a really bad series. But it's not the end of
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  Speaker 4: the world.
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  Speaker 3: Again, it's only what nine games into the season, and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people are, oh.
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  Speaker 4: This is startle, this is horrible. Come on people.
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  Speaker 3: Before the season started, a lot of you had the
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals at two and seven. After nine games, they're four
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  Speaker 3: and five, right, so guess what we are ahead of
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  Speaker 3: the game. Now we go to Pittsburgh, then we come
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  Speaker 3: back home against Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let the guys, let the boys play, and
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  Speaker 3: let's look at the good, at the positive.
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  Speaker 4: And you know me, Katie, I am very pessimistic, right,
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  Speaker 4: A lot of yeah, you're always so happy. I'm I know.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that I'm happy, it's just like I am
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  Speaker 3: a I am a pessimistic that.
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  Speaker 4: That puts a good act out there for people.
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  Speaker 3: And and I still see this team doing good, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like like when again with the Minnesota Twins and the
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  Speaker 3: series against the Angels, Oh, look at the like at
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  Speaker 3: the starting pictures, so everybody's pitching five six innings.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is great, this is great. They
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  Speaker 4: go to Boston. Eddie has a bad night, Michaelis has
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  Speaker 4: a bad night.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's hope that's not the norm and it's just
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  Speaker 3: something that happened in Boston.
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  Speaker 4: And again, Boston is weird.
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  Speaker 3: You know the history, the ghost Fenway Park, the little
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  Speaker 3: thing that walks around with the big green head and
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  Speaker 3: then the celebrat Wally and then and his girlfriend or
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  Speaker 3: wife or is that who is she the mistress? I
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  Speaker 3: have no idea who she is, but but she's with
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  Speaker 3: with Wally all over the place.
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  Speaker 4: So you know what is Boston? Give it to them.
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  Speaker 4: It was their opening series.
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  Speaker 3: Let's move on to me after the first after everybody
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  Speaker 3: opens their season. Now the real season starts right and
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  Speaker 3: and going into Pittsburgh, it's not gonna be easy. I
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  Speaker 3: know you're gonna face this really tough pitching. What happens
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  Speaker 3: if the guys continue to hit? And I know that,
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to go ahead and move
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  Speaker 3: ahead to what we want to talk about or you
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about, because I have no idea what
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  Speaker 3: you want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Hit.
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  Speaker 3: That's what makes you great, Katie. We don't know what
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about it next thing. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be forty Minutes're like, you know what we already
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  Speaker 3: went too long, So let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's nine games into the season.
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  Speaker 3: I still like what I see and yeah, the pitching
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  Speaker 3: again against Boston it wasn't great, but the hitting was
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  Speaker 3: pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So, so coming into the season, the question was, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: this guy's gonna hit?
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  Speaker 4: Is this gonna hit? Is this guy going to hit?
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  Speaker 3: Well, guess what everybody is hitting, even Wilson Contraders is
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  Speaker 3: hitting little by little Mason Win. You know, the first
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  Speaker 3: few games here in Samn Lewis, he goes to Boston,
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  Speaker 3: Poppa hits everywhere. So people relax, come down and trust me,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not drinking a kool aid. I'm not a company man.
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  Speaker 3: I say what I feel. What I feel right now
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  Speaker 3: is like, let's not panic. It's way too early to panic.
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  Speaker 3: The Central Division. It's gonna be a tough one. But
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  Speaker 3: I still believe this team can take it. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna say they can take it easily, but they
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  Speaker 3: can take it.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like fans needed to hear some us, some
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  Speaker 2: positive talk because it was not a positive weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I I had fun.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, lamps, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Finally, twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, finally twenty one another you're older, definitely not wiser,
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  Speaker 2: actually getting dumber by the year.
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  Speaker 4: I think, yes, I sacond that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just not a very positive weekend
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  Speaker 2: in general, not just because of the pitching performances. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: he talked about Betty not a good spot, Miles disastrous outing.
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  Speaker 1: Plante was all right, you know, he's worked on some things.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't an efficient outing by any means, but he
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  Speaker 2: kept them in the ballgame. But we have to get
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  Speaker 2: to some news first, and well we'll thank our friends
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  Speaker 2: dandel Sports Network for their scouting report.
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  Speaker 1: Here. Levon Herrera HiT's the ten day injured list official
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  Speaker 1: willhel Poso selected.
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  Speaker 2: From Memphis with the corresponding move, Herrera left knee inflammation
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  Speaker 2: sustained pain one of Sunday's doubleheader.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. And I don't know if you watched it in
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  Speaker 1: real time. I did.
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  Speaker 2: It was a non contact injury, as he was running
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  Speaker 2: from first to third on a Nolan arnaud A single
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  Speaker 2: in the third inning. But anytime you see a non
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  Speaker 2: contact injury, specifically with the leg, I always feel the worst. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw it immediately with my little binoculars.
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  Speaker 2: And the way that Herrera stopped immediately and could not
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  Speaker 2: put any way on his leg, and how fast Ollie
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  Speaker 2: Marvel and head trainer Adam Olsen came out. I immediately thought,
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, I hope this is not like an acl
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  Speaker 2: or a Cody situation. Good news here. While it's certainly
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  Speaker 2: not good news that Herrera, who's been the.
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  Speaker 1: Will miss time, the Cardinals believe he's avoided any serious da.
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  Speaker 2: She went under MRIs and testing in Boston and all
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  Speaker 2: of those owed no structural damage.
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  Speaker 1: Meniscus is fine, ligaments are fine.
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  Speaker 2: There is some inflammation, so he will require that ile stint,
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  Speaker 2: but all things consider, they don't think it's a serious injury.
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  Speaker 1: We talked to Herrara after Sunday night's game. He said
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  Speaker 1: the same. He said it felt like a.
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  Speaker 2: Shooting pain when it first happened, but now that he's
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  Speaker 2: been able to walk around put some weight on it,
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  Speaker 2: it's not as bad as anyone initially feared.
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  Speaker 1: So take that for.
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  Speaker 2: Herrera, get a people and Gorman who ended up on
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  Speaker 2: the ile on Friday with the right hamstring strain. But
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  Speaker 2: if we're taking some silver linings from these players injuries.
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  Speaker 1: It's that neither are expected to time.
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  Speaker 2: Now, what does this mean for the Cardinals and they're
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  Speaker 2: catching situation which he's going to take a majority of
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  Speaker 2: the starts.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's gonna be cleared to go today.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and now here they are heard for the night game,
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  Speaker 2: So maybe you'll see Pozok at the start today until comes.
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  Speaker 1: Back here paper pause, behind weight.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think you need from Obviously that that
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  Speaker 2: is not the same as.
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  Speaker 1: Fill that gap. He's certainly.
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  Speaker 4: He is.
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  Speaker 3: He's capable of catching, he's capable throwing, and he can
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  Speaker 3: hit right obviously evon three home runs here, one home
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  Speaker 3: run over there. So it's it's at least at the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: The numbers are explosive. They're they're like they're they're on
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  Speaker 3: your like in your face, everybody looking at the four
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  Speaker 3: home runs.
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  Speaker 4: But Pedro. Pedro can hit. He proved that.
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  Speaker 3: Last season when he had consistency, and he is going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to hit now with Ivan out hopefully
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  Speaker 3: hopefully again, I don't know much more than what you
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  Speaker 3: just said. Hopefully it's just a ten days hopefully he
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  Speaker 3: comes back. And when he comes back, how is he
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  Speaker 3: going to come back? Is he going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to play? Behind the play. Is he going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to stay you know, seven to eight innings a
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  Speaker 3: game and then the ninth pedroal comes in and finishes it.
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  Speaker 3: Is he going to be able to do that? So
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  Speaker 3: I think Ali and the and the coaches are gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to be really careful with him. And knowing Yvonne
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  Speaker 3: and we all know that he works really really hard,
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  Speaker 3: not only as a catcher, as a hitter, but also
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  Speaker 3: with his body, like like conditioning and all that is
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  Speaker 3: really tough. He is hard on it. So hopefully that
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  Speaker 3: work that he did in the off season translates to
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  Speaker 3: now right and he comes back strong, He comes back
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  Speaker 3: a little a little relax and a little you know,
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  Speaker 3: just not so not so much pressure on him or
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  Speaker 3: his knees, no pun intended. So let's see what Pedro
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  Speaker 3: does and and what I've learned about Pedro papiedra as
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  Speaker 3: I called him, by the way, So when I called
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  Speaker 3: Pedro's home runs.
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  Speaker 4: I say Pedro pa piedra because.
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  Speaker 3: In Spanish, Fred Flintstone is Pedro pica piedra. So when
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  Speaker 3: I when I called the yaba dabado, it's not me
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  Speaker 3: just saying stuff that makes no sense. Trust me makes
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  Speaker 3: sense because this java dabado through at the end dudo
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  Speaker 3: means hard, so yava daba do yaba da hard. Pedro
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  Speaker 3: Pia Piatra Fred Flintstone hits the ball really really hard.
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: There you go, in.
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  Speaker 3: Case you were wondering why I do yaba. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, he told me when he was a little kid,
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  Speaker 3: some people called them Pedro, pikap Pierre because you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's strong and and then hefty, like like pedrol pickup piata.
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  Speaker 4: So with that said, I think this is not this
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  Speaker 4: is not a.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible situation for the Cardinals because as you know, Katie,
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  Speaker 3: and as we know, baseball gods always puts everybody in place, right,
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  Speaker 3: They always have a way of fixing or putting people
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  Speaker 3: in place. And what this does it tells the Cardinals
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  Speaker 3: play Pedro a little more behind the plate and then
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  Speaker 3: when Yvonne comes back, take it slowly with him and
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  Speaker 3: you have another option with when it comes down to
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  Speaker 3: the age. Now again, I don't know what Ali and
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  Speaker 3: the coaches are doing, so hopefully this is more than
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  Speaker 3: more than than hurts. The Cardinals helps him set up
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: different things, different situations, and I know that the start
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  Speaker 3: of the hitting has been really, really good, except maybe
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  Speaker 3: for Wilson contrels that he's going to get there. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about Pedro being behind the plate and
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  Speaker 3: not having the battle of Ivan Herrera. Somebody else is
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  Speaker 3: going to pick it up. And the other thing about
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  Speaker 3: Juel Polso, I had a chance to talk to him.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually there in spring training when he showed
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  Speaker 3: up for the first couple of days and he was
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: talking to by Central Leguez, who was, you know, scouting
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: international for the for the Cardinals, and Moises told him,
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: you know, we try to sign you back in the
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: early twenty tens when you were still in Venezuela. But
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: then he signed with Texas and the story goes, and
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: I retweeted your tweet yesterday. He told Moyses there like, well,
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  Speaker 3: in November, I signed with the Braves one day and
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  Speaker 3: then the very next day they released me. They didn't
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  Speaker 3: even let me know, like he didn't have a job
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  Speaker 3: and he didn't even know. And then somehow the Cardinals
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  Speaker 3: figure it out that the agent cold, I believe, and
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  Speaker 3: that's how they signed him. So this kid, he's not
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  Speaker 3: a young kid. He's not he's not a rookie He's
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  Speaker 3: somebody with a lot of experience. He's been in professional
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  Speaker 3: baseball since what twenty thirteen when he signed with Texas,
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  Speaker 3: So I believe he will be a very good backup
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  Speaker 3: until Ivon comes back. And let's see what happens then.
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  Speaker 3: But for now, Cardinal Nation, don't worry about it. Pedro's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine behind the plate.
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  Speaker 3: And I get again, I'm a big believer of the
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  Speaker 3: power of Fred Flinstone and the Bronto.
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  Speaker 4: Borgers of Papa. So that's what That's what I have
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  Speaker 4: for you, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: What on that regard what the Cardinals.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: Fans are interested in knowing more about Joel Poso. There's
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  Speaker 2: a really strong story.
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  Speaker 4: But is it hoel or Yoh?
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  Speaker 1: You know what, let me check the pronounciation.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's hoel. I mean it is with a y,
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  Speaker 3: but I believe he pronounces it hoel.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So on ticket for what it's worth.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: In the MLB pronunciation guide that was sent to us
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  Speaker 2: earlier today, it says pronounced Joe.
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  Speaker 1: El so Joe with the with the J or with
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  Speaker 1: the y j o dad e l.
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  Speaker 4: The e l is capitalized in Spanish.
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  Speaker 1: That is I'm gonna just ask him when I see him.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, great, that's that's that's great, and great brought great journalism,
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  Speaker 3: Capital Jay journalism.
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  Speaker 4: State University journalism pays off.
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  Speaker 2: But Pozo Has has such an interesting and unique story.
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  Speaker 2: And Levi Weaver of the Athletics did a nice profile
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  Speaker 2: on him UH a couple of years ago. And his story,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say, you know, does not start out in the
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  Speaker 2: most uplifting ways, but to get where he is now
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  Speaker 2: and the lessons that he's learned, you know, I strongly
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  Speaker 2: recommend any Cardinals fan go read it and check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see him, We'll see pau Has behind
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  Speaker 2: the plate. I'd like to see Pedro do a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better with the framing. I thought on Sunday it
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  Speaker 2: could have been a little better. But again, this is
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  Speaker 2: a guy who is commended by his teammates UH for
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  Speaker 2: his game prep, for his preparation, his study plan. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Andre Polante was singing Pedro pa has his praises
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  Speaker 2: yesterday after the game.
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  Speaker 1: Pedro works very very hard.
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  Speaker 2: No, he does not have the pure power barrel bat
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  Speaker 2: of Amon Herrera.
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  Speaker 1: But he's more than capable of getting things done.
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  Speaker 2: Hew, can he drive in three runs on Sunday, coming
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  Speaker 2: in as an emergency replacement. So I think I'll just
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: find there something I do want to talk about. It
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: is the bullpen, and as a bullpen believer, I'm refusing
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: to know that I was wrong, But no, I do
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: think we have some things to address there with we'll
• 14:23
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• 14:26
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  Speaker 2: I'm used to it by now. But you know, we
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  Speaker 2: just did a doubleheader nineteen innings. Because anytime there's a
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: double header, there's going to be actual any This is cool.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I leave Friendway at midnight, I get to my hotel
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: at one My alarm was up at four forty five ADM.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Flight to Pittsburgh. Back at the hotel. I got to
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: be at PNC Park in about sixty minutes. Yeah, we're
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: still back, but I knew we were back when in
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: the first week of the season she had three raindelays,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: three extra Indians and a doubleheader.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: And you and I both grew up in California, so
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: like this, raindelays were not a thing for me growing up.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I never saw the tart at Oracle Park or I
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: was like, what a waste of stakes. Now I see it's.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: There, it's it's, it's it's it's part of the part
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: of the picture. It's part of the the background or
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: the scenery or everything. And yeah, I know, like you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: when I used to go to games in LA and
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: when I work with the Dodgers, I think I saw
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: that thing maybe in ten years, maybe three times, maybe
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: three times. And never never uh never postponement like like
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: you know, let's stop the game and then we'll play,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: but never like hey, come back in three weeks.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: But it is the Midwest, it is Sin Louis.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: That's why they have a game a day in between
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: day and the rest of of the week. And yeah,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I mean to have to have a little rain opening day.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's. I think it's washing away the bad.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Thoughts of those out there.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: There's still negative about the Cardinals, and I get it right.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Negative sells more than happiness unless you're really really good,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: like the Blues are doing right now here in.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Sign Louis, I know, I know.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Hey, let's get the cup, let's turn into I went
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: to the game the other day.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: It was fun.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I have too much fun of Blues games. If you've
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: ever seen me at a Blues game, I'm sorry. That's
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: not a true reflection of who I am.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: No it is, it is so but yeah, no, no,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: it's it's I mean, it's right now, it's it's beautiful,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: it's sonny, it's a little windy, and right now it's great.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: But if you look at the weather for the weekend,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: it might not be this great. But hopefully, hopefully things change,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: the weather, the pattern, summer, beautiful pool here at one Cardinalway, which,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: by the way, you are invited again, and I you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Do not need to be if you've ever seen me
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a one Cardinal way, I'm so sorry.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: That's not a true reflection of who I am.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Now. Is it a true reflection of what we saw?
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Or is it true what we saw?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Is that the reflection of the of the Cardinals bullpen, Katie,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think and I believe you
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: and I had this conversation and nothing against anybody, right,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: like if you see me ten, twelve, thirteen, fifteen, whatever.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Years ago, when I started in this business, I was
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: not as good as I am.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I was good, but not like who I am right now. Right.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: We developed in the media too.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: So there's development in baseball, and yeah, I get it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: You know, they have the minor leagues, you know, high school, college,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: minor leagues, then the big leagues. And I still think
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: this bullpen is really really young, even though you know
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Roycroft was here last season. Lay he was here last season.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Bryan Fernandez had a great season. JoJo's been here for
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: a couple of years. Of course, Hellsley and film Mayitan
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: he's the veteran, and you can tell he is the veteran.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: He comes in and it basically lights out. So when
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: it comes down to the bullpen, I like it, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I love it yet. And I
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: feel that if this Cardinal team continues to win, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: they're gonna continue to win, I don't know. I wonder
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: if there might be a change or two coming in
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: the bullpen, because, like I said, experience makes you better.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Most of the time.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So hopefully the experience makes the guys better. And you
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: saw them in Boston. They were used over and over again.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Now let's see what happens in this series.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: And in Pittsburgh.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I mean Procepho yesterday he came in and he took
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: it for for for the bullpen, right, so so that
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: was good to see. But now let's see what happens
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: with the with the Pittsburgh Pirates. And let's see how
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the starters react to what the bullpen, how much the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: bullpen has been working, And let's see what the coaches
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: say in a couple of days. Hopefully you know, Sonny
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: and everybody else goes seven eighty things and we don't
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: talk about this, but let's see what happens. And and
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about the bullpen. I'm not worried about
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: any part of this team.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Not yet. It's way too early to start saying, ah, well,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not I got here we go again. I'm not
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: going to the stadium. No, it it's way to early.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: It's way it's it's it's eight ten in the morning.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Nobody wait wakes up with the bad mood unless they
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: go out than.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Pretty mad a couple of days ago that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: What I was saying, That was what I was gonna say.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: But you don't let me finish unless you're Katie Woing Boston,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: And yeah, you wake up regretting the next day what
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: you do.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, I have zero regrets. I do not regret.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Any No regards like that tattoo from that guy, No regards.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you talked about the bullpen. Let's let's talk
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: about this. Two writings that need to get right creative,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Ryan Bernandaz and Chris Raycroft. They are going to be
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: two instrumental people in this bullpen. We talked about Ryan Helsley. Yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: not a great outing from him on Sunday Game one,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: but you know he's still Ryan Helsley, philm Ayton. If
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you're gonna make one free agent signing, it better be
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a good one, mister Mozallak, and he is a good
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: one so far.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I think we want to have really locked down the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: eight and the ninth. But I thought it was interesting.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: How we saw Fernandez and Roycroft used over the weekend.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: These are guys, Fernandez in particular, who has not bared
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: well to start the season, and the Cardinals had slotted
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: in Ryan Fernandez in this high leverage role for this
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: year based on how well he did in his rookie year.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Last year.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: He had a fantastic rookie campaign as their Rule five pick,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and he's earned this opportunity. There's always going to be
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: some stepbacks and adjustments, right and with Fernandez, it was
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: clear very early on that he was struggling to locate
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: his slider and that's a big pitch for him. So
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: this is not something that guys can fix in a
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: full time session, especially young players and inexperienced players like
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Fernandez that you know don't necessarily have the skills to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: adjust in real time yet because they haven't been in
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the league long enough to do so. So on Friday,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: we saw Fernandez enter the game with the Cardinals trailing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: That's usually not the spot that Ollie Marml's going to
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: use him in. However, he needs for to get right
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: in real time, and he's not going to throw them
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: in there with a lead if he knows that one
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of his setup guys is not feeling confident about how
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to land his slider and also his cutter. Those two
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: pitches are correlated and related to each other. And how
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Bernandez uses them, uses them.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, so throw Bernanda's in. It doesn't go well.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: The Red Sox continued to score. He's still struggling. But
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: he comes out of that game. He goes up to
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: all it and he comes up up to the media
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: after and he said that outing was still helpful and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: helpful to me. My last two pitches I threw felt
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: really good, and I think I figured out where I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: need to be. So we'll see in Pittsburgh what he
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: looks like. I know he threw like five pitches in
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the tenth and that walk off loss, but on our
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: run he didn't put the ground second brought Manfred did
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the same situation with Chris roy Kram. Well, he's not
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: going to be used in as high leverage situations as
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Bernanda's yet because he's still relatively new. He's also going
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: to be a big piece for his head batches this year,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: but going forward, and he was having a hard time
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: landing his sinker, so he got roughed up two stressful outings.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: He said, I believed you had two earned runs earlier
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in the weekend. His boss counting doesn't look like the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Chris Roycroft and so when I saw him warming up
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and the Cardinals were down eighteen to three in the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: seventh I thought, what the heck are you doing? That's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't use pack by the way, I was like, what.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: On the mound?
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna have enough.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Pitching, you know, guys, after the game I did asked
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Ollie Marmal, what would and having boy crossed in because
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: obviously there's something you wanted to work. There's no other
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: reason he's in the game other than that, So that's
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: exactly right. Put Worycroft in there because he needed to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: work in real time, a real game situation on landing
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: his singer.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: His mechanics were all out of whack.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: He didn't feel confident. He gets right in that game.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And then he said, and I believe this. This is
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a perfect example of one saint development in the major leagues.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: The game was had spirals out of control by the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Roycroft's working on some stuff.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: He has the opportunity to do so in a big,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: weak setting.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: He walked out, you know, go talk to him. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: think he's pretty confidence. So we walk over there and
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: he is like, this was helpful. This is exactly what
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I needed. I feel so much more confident going into
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the next series, because I think I figured out in
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: real time. So I thought that was like a pretty
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: good microcosm and maybe helpful for fans who are not
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: quite understanding how this transition year development near will play out.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Those two situations over the weekend with Fernandas and Roycroft
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: are not their usual usages, but they serve a different
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: purpose for the long run.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm still a believer in the bullpen.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I still think that they have a lot of weapons.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And while it didn't make sense in real time, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: do see what the purpose was there, and talking to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: both those pictures and seeing the relief in real.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Time, and a lot of things don't make sense in
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: real time, like that what you just said, I guarantee
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you myself included like why are we doing why if
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: we are down by so many runs in the seventh eighth,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And why don't we put Burlison to pitch?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Why don't we put Donnie to pitch?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Somebody that wants to throw a couple of pitches and
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: he brings the young guys.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Now, it makes all the sense in the.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: World, right, because if there's a position inside a major
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: league roster that cannot go down to get fixed and
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: come back up the next day or cannot work things out.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: On the side, it's.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: A reliever because if you have a bullpen as a
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: reliever before the game, then you're not gonna play.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna pitch that game. And if you pitch
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: the night before, now.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: You're really tired because you've been used two times in
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: a row. How many times do we bang our heads
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: when we see relievers warm up for an inning and
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: a half and then they come into.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: The game and boom, boom boom. So that's what happens.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: So you and the rest of Saint Louis media that
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: asked that question to Ali, that was a great question
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: and that puts light on a situation where a lot
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: of us sometimes don't understand right and a lot of
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the fans don't have the chance to ask those questions.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And you guys do, and you did, and what was
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the answer. Well, yes, I know that maybe tomorrow we're
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: not going to be able to use them, But guess what,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the season is not just tomorrow, it's only nine games
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: in the season.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: We need to.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Work things out with this young kids, and if for
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: some reason they cannot work it out, well they are
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: here in the big leagues, then we might send them down,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: bring somebody up, or go, you know, sign somebody, or
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: make a trade and bring somebody else. So that is
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to me, that makes perfect sense. And I hope that
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: using them in those situations, even if they got you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: if they give up a bunch of heads or as
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: some people say, they got rocked, hopefully getting rocked that
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: day means getting better the rest of the month, the
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: rest of the season.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: And I like that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I like that, like give these kids a chance, Like
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: how many times we hear on the radio whatever, Oh well,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: let them play. Let the kids play well, let them learn,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: let them learn well, guess what they are learning.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: And again, what is it? Four and five?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: That's not a bad I mean, yeah, it's a losing
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: record by one game, but it's not a bad record,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Like it really is not.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Like I like it. I like that.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And now that you say that, and you ask that
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: question and you bring it to us here, now I
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: feel a lot better, Like for real, I'm not kidding,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I feel a lot better because now I know that
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: something that I knew that it's hard for a bullpen
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: piece to get better as they go.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: This is how you use them. This is how you
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: help them get better.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And yes, maybe they won't be available for today, but
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: guess what, there's another game tomorrow. There's another game on Wednesday,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: then we come home on Friday to face the Phillies.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: So I like that, I really do.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: And those guys, you know, the roy Crows, the Leahy,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: the Fernande especially, they have the trust of the manager.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: They have the trust of Dusty and everybody else in
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: that coaching staff. So when somebody trust you, and just
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: in general in life, when somebody gives you their trust,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything bigger than somebody can give
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you than their trust, if they trust you with with secrets,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: with whatever, with life, with with even even you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: when when you're ranting about something, appreciate that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And I hope that the kids appreciate that trust.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Everybody in that team and talking about the bullpen appreciates
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: that and shows their appreciation by by developing and by
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: by doing the best they can to succeed and be
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: part of this team. Because I said it before, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, this is gonna be a fun season.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: You know, we might not win or the team might
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: not win one hundred games, ninety five games.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: But this team is gonna be there. It's gonna be exciting.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Like like like I said before, and this this this show,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know twenty minutes ago. I am a I'm
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a very pessimistic person. But for some reason, I trust
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: this team and do something good right And like I
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: said the other day, if you're not here when we
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: are not great, don't come back in September when we
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: are about to celebrate and pop.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the part of being the fan. You and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I know this.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: We ride the roller coaster together, whether we want to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: or not. I can't escape it. It's everywhere neither, It's everywhere.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: It's everywhere, and I cannot wait.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's been too long since our my little
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: s quickty Mexicanized have been burned by champagne and beer.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So it's time.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: And I see it coming in hopefully the bullpen, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I know the bullpen is going to be a big piece.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a big piece. I mean, I like
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the hitting. I like the defense. I mean, we haven't
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: talked about defense that they're They're to me, they're having
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: a really good year.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Everything is very, very tight and I like it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: You know, Ali making some some situations, some decisions that
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: at times we scratch our heads, like yesterday, but now
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: thanks to you and only you, Katie, will now everybody
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: knows why Roycroft was pitching in the eighth inning.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I guess the Red Sox when the team was what
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: eighteen to three.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: And by the way, I don't know if we're going
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: to talk about this, but the way the guys came
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: back in the ninth inning. Yes, I know it was
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: like ten twelve runs, but it would have been easy
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: for them to just go in there and just try
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: to pop up and let's go, let's go to Pittsburgh.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: This is done. No, they came in the boom, boom boom.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: They made Alex Corer and the Red Sox at least
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: scrashed their heads and move around the dugout because it
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: was starting to get not uncomfortable, but it was starting
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to get to a point where like they might have
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: to use their big relievers, right, not just the guys,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: the mop up guys or whatever you want to call them.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: They were about to start using their big guys because
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals kept on coming, the young rebirds kept on coming,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and I like that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I like that. I love that. I really do like.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, you can't see it, but I am doing that.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: It's cute. I like that little bird thing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah that, No, I agree, And they did that on
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Friday to having to get Chapman in the game.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: They you know, we'll see how it goes.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: We'll break down the upcoming Pittsburgh Pirates series. But first
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: we got one more sponsor read.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: To do more food.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, where's you go? There? You are? No,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: there you are? You need to talk to Literally, what
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  Speaker 1: am I doing right now? I have no idea, Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, three hours of sleep.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me what it is and I'll just do it live.
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  Speaker 3: Yay, And I believe with the SAP option you can
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  Speaker 3: listen to my lovely voice with Benjamin Olinda and doing
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  Speaker 3: the game in Spanish. So I love the way Chip
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  Speaker 3: does it with Brad and Alexa and everybody uh the network.
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  Speaker 4: But if you want to give us a little chance, just.
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  Speaker 3: Go to the SAP option on your app and or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: and you know you might be entertained by a yaba
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  Speaker 3: dabado or something interesting like that. It makes no sense
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  Speaker 3: when it comes down to baseball. But then again, baseball
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  Speaker 3: makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: Baseball makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: And now with that, do you enjoy working in such
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  Speaker 2: a nonsensical industry?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, because I make no sense. I make no sense.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the sayings that I heard from the
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  Speaker 3: great Manni Modou Pinchater Gestorian air from the seventies and
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  Speaker 3: eighties with the Dodgers he used to tell me all
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  Speaker 3: the time and once in a while still is like follow,
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  Speaker 3: baseball is so weird that the baseball is round and
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  Speaker 3: it comes inside a square box. Make that make sense? Right,
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  Speaker 3: there's the baseball, there's the square box. There's little holes,
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  Speaker 3: there's little ways, air, so the fans and everybody else,
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  Speaker 3: we need to fill up that box with little brains
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  Speaker 3: of happiness and enjoy baseball because at the end, it's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a great sport, it's a family event. Bring
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  Speaker 3: your kids. I know that you know my kids and
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  Speaker 3: I and a lot of people that I know. We
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  Speaker 3: have a tight relationship because of baseball and because of sports.
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  Speaker 3: You know, because when we lose, well, we are all hurting,
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  Speaker 3: and when we win, we are all celebrating. And we
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  Speaker 3: cannot say that about everything in life by with sports.
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  Speaker 3: With baseball, when we when we lose, trust me, we
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  Speaker 3: all hurt the same. And when we win, well, some
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  Speaker 3: like Katie will celebrates a little extra but much yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, sometimes we celebrate Katie woo. But yeah, thanks
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  Speaker 3: for having me again, Katie. I mean, this is fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's like thirty some minutes and they go by really
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  Speaker 3: really fast. And why One because you're Katie Wou You're
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  Speaker 3: the queen. Two because it's baseball.
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  Speaker 2: This is like every phone call we've ever had where
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  Speaker 2: we're both like, okay, just a quick call and then
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  Speaker 2: the next thing I know, it's been an hour and
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  Speaker 2: a half.
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  Speaker 1: That's just because I don't know. It's fun. We click,
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  Speaker 1: we click, We got each other to our friends.
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  Speaker 4: Put it.
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  Speaker 3: No over here, no go this way, go the other way.
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  Speaker 3: What yeah, the other hend use the other hand. I'll
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  Speaker 3: use the other hand. To the other side. I see
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  Speaker 3: you the other side, your other hand. I get close
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  Speaker 3: to the middle, get it close to the middle. More
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  Speaker 3: more and more and more more, a little more. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: there you go. Kind of that's it's a crooked heart,
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  Speaker 3: like the one you have or whatever you have left
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  Speaker 3: of your heart.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, got him.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals will take on the The Cardinals dig on
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  Speaker 2: the Pirates starting today at six forty Eastern time. Matthew
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Libertory gets a start against Carmen Lidensky, who was a
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  Speaker 2: reliever last year, high leverage guy with nasty stuff to
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the point where I walked into arlivel Ali Marmel's office
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  Speaker 2: after a game we were both like, what the heck
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  Speaker 2: was that he stretched out as a starter. With both
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Jared Jones and old friend Johann Oviedo on the il
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: to start the year, Big Primetime Magic on Tuesday, sunny
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  Speaker 2: Great Paul Skeens did see snow in the forecast, which
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely disgusting, so hopefully it is not that bad.
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  Speaker 2: And then Wednesday getaway Day, Eric Fretty, Mitch Keller, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Cardinal will see some pretty tough arms. I looked at
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  Speaker 2: the I don't know if the Phillies have set their probables,
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  Speaker 2: but I was just looking at you know what it's
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  Speaker 2: projecting as and you should see uh, Zach Wheeler and
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Nola I believe with Pittsburgh, I mean at Pittsburgh, Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he's Sizzarno.
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  Speaker 2: So it'll be a good guest for this offense that
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  Speaker 2: we are pretty excited about. And we'll see you how
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  Speaker 2: this looks uh in just a couple of hours. My
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  Speaker 2: friend Paula Cencio, thank you so much for joining me,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the voice of the Spanish radio broadcast of the Saint
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  Speaker 2: Lost Cardinals. You can follow him on both Twitter and Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: I recommend Instagram hilarious content at pullar view on ig
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  Speaker 2: it's like a disgusting photo of me.
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  Speaker 1: So if we could just avoid.
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  Speaker 2: That, I'd be okay. So I'm super excited. I can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to see you over the weekend. Maybe we'll get
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  Speaker 2: some Ted Drew's get some all the.
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  Speaker 3: Joy, all the things that we enjoyed Saint Louis and
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  Speaker 3: again you can listen to our broadcast Tremenda eight eighty
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  Speaker 3: on the app or our friends of fan duel s A. P. P.
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  Speaker 3: Benjaminina and perhaps you know, if if if somebody else
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  Speaker 3: asked me to come back. I mean not not saying
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  Speaker 3: somebody else besides you, but you know the fans want
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  Speaker 3: me back. I'll be back for the fans because I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm a man.
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  Speaker 4: Of the people.
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  Speaker 1: The people.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the people's champed. Like the Rock when he was
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  Speaker 3: good Rock. Now he's bad Rock.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like him.
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  Speaker 1: He's bad Rock. Now you kind of look like the
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  Speaker 1: Rock with the like black shirt and the chain.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's more like stone cold because he's bald.
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  Speaker 4: I'm wearing this hat. By the way, do you get
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  Speaker 4: this thing?
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  Speaker 1: It's play play cute.
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  Speaker 2: Get it all right, Cardinals fans, thanks so much for
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  Speaker 2: tuning in. As always, I'll be back with Bertie Nicholas
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  Speaker 2: for at least two more episodes this week from Paulo Cencio.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Katie wo. I got to make my way to work.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk soon.