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Jeremiyah Love Injury, Joe Brady’s Adjustment Period, Guaranteed Contracts & Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff Three
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Speaker 1: and Out podcast. Hopefully you are doing well, enjoying life,
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Speaker 1: living life. We got a lot going on stuff with
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Speaker 1: star players getting injured in preseason games, coordinators, new head coaches,
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out where to stand. Christian McCaffrey little
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Speaker 1: is he in a little contract standoff? He's not actually injured.
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Speaker 1: We'll discuss it. All is Dad Diaries mail bag at
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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram. I also want to hit
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Speaker 1: on Trey Aikman is now under the same restrictions as
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, cannot go into the practice facilities because he
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Speaker 1: works with or for the Miami Dolphins on the side.
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Speaker 1: But you guys know that if you listen on Collin Speed,
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Speaker 1: make sure you're describe to three now never missed an episode.
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Speaker 1: We're also on Netflix. You can check that out as well.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll just talk a lot of football today.
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Speaker 1: But I did want to start with this somehow I
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Speaker 1: missed this story over the weekend that Jeremiah Love had
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Speaker 1: seventeen touches. I was watching the game loosely and it
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Speaker 1: felt like he was playing a lot. And then it
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Speaker 1: came out yesterday that he has a high ankle sprain
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna miss the rest of the preseason. And
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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say when you have that
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Speaker 1: injury and you're a skilled guy week one and who knows,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they can linger. And I thought about this
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Speaker 1: because I do think it's very easy to play Monday
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Speaker 1: morning quarterback in any situation. Right. One theme of this
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Speaker 1: podcast is playing football. Being a football player, whether it's
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Speaker 1: high school through the pros, you can get hurt doing
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Speaker 1: anything training, off season practice and shorts and a T shirt,
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Speaker 1: regular practice with pads, obviously the games. Right, It's very
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Speaker 1: unique that way. Most basketball players can just play full
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Speaker 1: five on five in the offseason, cannot really get hurt
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Speaker 1: in the regular season. And just baseball is the same thing.
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Speaker 1: If your arm doesn't go out, you can just pitch whenever.
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Speaker 1: You know. You can take BP simulated BP in you know, December,
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Speaker 1: if you want. Football is a little different animal. It
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Speaker 1: just kind of hit me yesterday when I was on
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Speaker 1: with Colin, like, it's not only a sport the only
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Speaker 1: sport where you practice way more than you play. It's
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Speaker 1: definitely a sport where you train and lift way more
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Speaker 1: than you play, so you put a lot of strain
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Speaker 1: and tension on the body to try to get to
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Speaker 1: the small number of games that you play. And anytime
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Speaker 1: you know Lafleur right, first time head coach, pretty clear
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Speaker 1: that it was hard for Arizona to get a job
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Speaker 1: or get someone to take their job. People weren't lining up.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if other people were beating down the
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Speaker 1: door for Matt And this is not trying to diminish him.
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Speaker 1: I've always heard good things. I think clearly him and
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Speaker 1: his brother understand offense right. But I think anytime you
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Speaker 1: take a new job right right out of college, as
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Speaker 1: you start moving up in whatever you're doing, definitely, if
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Speaker 1: you ever get to the main seat, become a CEO
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Speaker 1: of a company, become the head coach own a business like,
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Speaker 1: there is a different amount of pressure on you. And
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Speaker 1: let's face it, I do believe that most people, like
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Speaker 1: no one's ever ready for the job that they get right.
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Speaker 1: They typically just kind of figure it out on the fly.
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Speaker 1: Your experience in everything you've done before help you out
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Speaker 1: for that situation and have put you in position for
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Speaker 1: that situation. But once you sit in that seat, especially
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Speaker 1: if it's high up on the ORC chart, like, that's
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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, it's a lot of moving parts.
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Speaker 1: It's a an experience that your previous experiences truly can't
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Speaker 1: prepare you for. Right and making decisions is hard. It
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Speaker 1: is way easier to make suggestions, and that's what the
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Speaker 1: majority of human beings do, and that is definitely what
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Speaker 1: all the assistant coaches do. They make suggestions. The head
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Speaker 1: coach is the final decision maker, and you get put
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Speaker 1: in these situations preseason. There's not a right or wrong
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Speaker 1: way to do it. Historically, Andy Reid and Mike Tomlin
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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen's in the game. Like starters play even
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. It's different than fifteen, twenty thirty
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Speaker 1: years ago, clearly, but starters still play sparingly, but they
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Speaker 1: get activity. I do think when you're dealing with certain positions,
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Speaker 1: like a running back, a guy that was just drafted
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Speaker 1: third overall, when you're the head coach, you have to
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Speaker 1: have somewhat of a macro view because as an assistant
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Speaker 1: coach you are and really just coaches in general. I'm
4:56
Speaker 1: not saying all head coaches are just purely macro. That's
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Speaker 1: kind of what a GM is four. But they understand
5:02
Speaker 1: balancing the roster, signing guys when to be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we don't need to extend this guy. They're thinking they
5:07
Speaker 1: have a longer runway. And when you first get on
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Speaker 1: a job, I don't care what job it is, there
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Speaker 1: is a little grace period, right that there is you
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Speaker 1: get a little runway to figure some things out on
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Speaker 1: the fly. But also like, you don't need to be
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Speaker 1: super aggressive. Ultimately, no matter what we do, there's gonna
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Speaker 1: come a point in time where you got to somewhat
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Speaker 1: put the chips in the middle of the table and
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Speaker 1: be aggressive. Whether it's a business deal, whether it's going
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Speaker 1: four and a fourth down, I don't give a shit
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Speaker 1: what it is. But like your first six months on
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Speaker 1: a job, especially if you have a gig like a
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Speaker 1: football coach, where you sign a four or five year contract,
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Speaker 1: you get a little breathing room and you have to
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to see the forest before the
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Speaker 1: trees and understand that there is bigger things at play
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Speaker 1: than just a preseason game. And of all the players
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Speaker 1: in this draft, every single one, the number one draft
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Speaker 1: pick for if you didn't get to practice at all
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Speaker 1: during OTA's er training camp, obviously were you'd be in shape,
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Speaker 1: but you didn't get to practice, you didn't know the playbook.
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Speaker 1: You could show up week one and just enter the
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Speaker 1: offensive and defensive huddle week one against whoever your opponent
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Speaker 1: is and still function. It would be Jeremiah Love and
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Speaker 1: I watched on Twitter. They had a cut up of
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Speaker 1: all his touches and it was all twenty two of
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Speaker 1: you from behind. How you want to watch a running back?
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Speaker 1: And I was like, four plays in, it's like, even
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Speaker 1: though it's not like he's busting like ninety yard runs,
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Speaker 1: it's like, you see it, like, this guy's very talented.
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Speaker 1: This guy's got a chance to be a really good player.
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Speaker 1: Seventeen touches is listen. I'm not trying to be stephen A.
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Speaker 1: Smith here. It's not a fireable offense, but it's closer
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Speaker 1: to a fireable offense to that's what you need to do.
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Speaker 1: Good idea And it goes back. I remember seeing a clip.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the begining a training
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Speaker 1: camp or maybe at the end of OTA's when when
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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, who is now their offensive coordinator, I met
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Speaker 1: him at the combine. Nice guy went to UC Davis.
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Speaker 1: Dad's a former coach. I like the guy had made
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Speaker 1: a comment, and I get it. You never want to
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Speaker 1: just Vic Fangio was always king of this. I'll never forget.
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Speaker 1: In San Francisco they draft Eric Reid from LSU to
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Speaker 1: this great defense. He's clearly gonna start at safety and
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Speaker 1: Fangio made him run with like the threes in the
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Speaker 1: twos during OTA's inn early in training camp. Old school guy,
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Speaker 1: I get it, But you can't have a fro hawk
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Speaker 1: and plucked eyebrows and then try to play the guy
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Speaker 1: like your buddy Ryan or Bill Parcels Like I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: Seventeen touches in a preseason game in a day and
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Speaker 1: age where you come from, you just with Sean McVay
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Speaker 1: where he plays nobody is fucking insane. That is crazy.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not just playing this game because he's got
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Speaker 1: a high ankle spray. Now he's gonna miss a bunch
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Speaker 1: of time and who knows, probably we I'm saying this
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Speaker 1: because you watch like four snaps of that game, It's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: just get him out of the game. I'm not even
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Speaker 1: saying that he should be in street clothes on the sideline.
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Speaker 1: I get wanting to get in some run, but I
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Speaker 1: don't care what happens at practice. I truly don't. And
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Speaker 1: maybe in their mind it hasn't gone as well as
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Speaker 1: it should have. I don't know, which is hard to
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Speaker 1: fathom because the book on this guy super high character,
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Speaker 1: super smart, super hard working and obviously a special talent.
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Speaker 1: And the other thing is like guy kind of has
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Speaker 1: an injury history. So to run a running back. If
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Speaker 1: you just said week one, right, if I just said
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Speaker 1: week one, I don't even know who the Cardinals are playing.
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Speaker 1: Say they're playing you know, the Cowboys or whatever, and
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Speaker 1: you just said the car Jeremiah Love had seventeen touches,
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Speaker 1: It gives solid first game. It wouldn't be like crazy,
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Speaker 1: you gotta get in the ball, more like pretty understandable, right,
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Speaker 1: and then over time maybe you build him up, maybe
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Speaker 1: gets into the low twenties, like that's a regular season game.
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Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs, you know Bjon Robinson. Obviously those guys get
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Speaker 1: a little more. I bet if you look at their
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Speaker 1: rookie years, like man definitely had games well below seventeen touches.
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Speaker 1: There is no justifying this. There is no well, he's
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Speaker 1: a rookie is football, And I saw Tom Brady Instagram
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Speaker 1: something about like, hey, when football season starts. I never
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Speaker 1: wanted to be taken out of the game preseason, regular season,
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Speaker 1: like it's football season and I get it. But these
9:26
Speaker 1: games mean nothing. You notice how none of the coaches
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Speaker 1: are mad when they lose, none of them talking about
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Speaker 1: winning and losing. When the game ends, the winning coach
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Speaker 1: doesn't celebrate. The losing coach does not give a shit.
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Speaker 1: Over the course of the last ten years, the only
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Speaker 1: team that has really cared about that has been Harbaugh
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Speaker 1: and the Ravens, who had that crazy winning street. Because
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Speaker 1: the outcome of these games are relevant. It's about the
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Speaker 1: individual plays, the improvement and getting out healthy with anyone
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna need in the regular season. But if
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Speaker 1: you take a running back really, really high, and I
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Speaker 1: got no issue in this draft, you know it is
10:02
Speaker 1: a weird draft. He's clearly a special talent. To give
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Speaker 1: him seventeen touches is I mean, one of the more
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Speaker 1: insane preseason moments in recent history. It truly is. And Lafleur,
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Speaker 1: I know he tried to say, Hey, we're gonna ease
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Speaker 1: him down. That's a little deer in the headlights. That's
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Speaker 1: a little bit game one preseason one. That seat's a
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Speaker 1: little too big for you right now. I mean it
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Speaker 1: truly is, and you better figure this out fast because
10:29
Speaker 1: your team's not gonna be that good. You're in a
10:30
Speaker 1: division with three playoff teams, the two Super Bowl favorites,
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Speaker 1: and another team with Kyle Shanahan. I mean, there's a
10:37
Speaker 1: decent chance you could you could play well and go
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Speaker 1: and six in the division, you know, and you're probably
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Speaker 1: not winning many other games outside of that because I
10:47
Speaker 1: think it's the NFC East and the AFC West are
10:50
Speaker 1: your two draws. So buckle up, Buttercup. But there is
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Speaker 1: just I'm not trying to just shit on the guy
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Speaker 1: acting like he's the village idiot. This wasn't just a
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Speaker 1: mistake though, This is like that, this can't happen. And
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Speaker 1: you get to a certain point you saw enough, like
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Speaker 1: get him out of the game, and now you have
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Speaker 1: an injured guy who just didn't need to happen. It
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Speaker 1: truly didn't the wear and tear on a guy at
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Speaker 1: that position to me, of all positioned where every single
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Speaker 1: play he touches the ball, especially the runs, he's gonna
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Speaker 1: be landing on the ground, usually with multiple people on
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Speaker 1: top of him taking side and front contact. So this
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Speaker 1: one was truly baffling. I mean my first thought was, like,
11:30
Speaker 1: these guys drinking on the job, these guys having a
11:33
Speaker 1: few cocktails up in the booth, because man, that's a
11:38
Speaker 1: tough one to figure out. Another thing when it comes
11:40
Speaker 1: to coaches and getting new jobs is I got this
11:43
Speaker 1: DM and this was a topic that I had written
11:46
Speaker 1: down and I skipped yesterday, but someone sent me this
11:49
Speaker 1: and it kind of made me go, Yeah, I wanted
11:52
Speaker 1: to talk about this question from my wife's instagram. I
11:56
Speaker 1: always think like, ah, girls, women listening to this podcast,
11:59
Speaker 1: then it's always a dude from their wife's instagram. Big
12:02
Speaker 1: Bills fan love, Joe Brady hyped up for Jim Leonard,
12:06
Speaker 1: good things Ahead. One of my biggest concerns though, is
12:10
Speaker 1: how big of a deal is it that he used
12:12
Speaker 1: to call the offense from the booth and now he's
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Speaker 1: down on the field. Seems like no one has really
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Speaker 1: mentioned it feels like a huge transition. Well, I saw
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Speaker 1: that when I was watching the Cowboys Seattle game. I
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Speaker 1: think this speaks for head coaches and it also goes
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Speaker 1: for new coordinators who have never done it. Brian Flurry
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Speaker 1: the Seattle's coordinator is going to alternate. I forget if
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Speaker 1: he was in the booth or on the field for
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Speaker 1: the game, and then then the next game he's going
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Speaker 1: to do the opposite. And I'm pretty sure I heard
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Speaker 1: someone mention that Sean Mannion is going to do the same.
12:46
Speaker 1: And if you go back years, Vic Fangio, you know
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Speaker 1: Eagles DC, when he became the head coach for Denver,
12:53
Speaker 1: it was a big transition because his entire career had
12:55
Speaker 1: been from the booth. And this gets back to the
12:58
Speaker 1: job thing. Like we were talking talking about. One advantage
13:02
Speaker 1: anyone has when they get a new gig is there's
13:05
Speaker 1: like a feeling out process. And for most people in business,
13:09
Speaker 1: you're not directly competing with somebody like if you work
13:12
Speaker 1: at Coke, PEPSI, you know, Budweiser, Corps Light obviously the
13:16
Speaker 1: hotel chains. I mean you kind of are, but your
13:18
Speaker 1: main goal is just to keep improving or growing whatever
13:22
Speaker 1: job you're at, the revenue, the sales at whatever it
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Speaker 1: may be. You're just kind of focused on what you're
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Speaker 1: doing and you have to figure out how to get there.
13:30
Speaker 1: And early on there's a feeling out process, but there's
13:33
Speaker 1: not like if you work for the four seasons, you know,
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Speaker 1: the seventh day on the job or the seventh month
13:39
Speaker 1: on the job, there's not like a direct competition that
13:42
Speaker 1: day against the ritz, you know. And I think sometimes
13:46
Speaker 1: in football you go there's a feeling out process, but
13:49
Speaker 1: come week one, you are one on one as a
13:52
Speaker 1: coordinator against the other coordinator. And the advantage all the
13:57
Speaker 1: head coaches that have been coordinating for a long time
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Speaker 1: half is there's no feeling out process. They know exactly
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Speaker 1: how to call the game from the field. It's why
14:07
Speaker 1: when a guy becomes a head coach from a coordinator
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Speaker 1: position and he's calling the offense or defense from the field,
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Speaker 1: seamless transition. Now it doesn't mean his team's gonna win,
14:16
Speaker 1: but that part of it, which is pretty massive now,
14:20
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those that you can get
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Speaker 1: a feel for it. But like Kellen Moore is a
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Speaker 1: good example, ever since I can remember, he always called
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Speaker 1: the offense from the field. Kyle Shanahan, same thing. Sean McVeigh, right,
14:32
Speaker 1: I think in Washington was on the field. Could be
14:36
Speaker 1: wrong on that one, but you have all these new coordinators,
14:39
Speaker 1: especially in I would say pretty pressure pack situations Seattle Philadelphia,
14:48
Speaker 1: Joe Brady as a head coach, I'm pretty sure was
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Speaker 1: Jesse Mentor last year for the Ravens up in the
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Speaker 1: box for Harbaugh. Could be wrong on that, but I'm
14:57
Speaker 1: pretty sure if I close my eyes remember watching t
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Speaker 1: games he was in the box like that. That's just
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Speaker 1: a big transition and there is gonna be a couple
15:05
Speaker 1: week period where you just got a lot going on
15:08
Speaker 1: now that it's way different for the head coach because
15:11
Speaker 1: they're they're managing the game, the timeouts and unless they
15:14
Speaker 1: feel comfortable giving the red flag to somebody else. It's
15:17
Speaker 1: got a lot going on beside calling their own offense
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Speaker 1: or defense. But it's kind of a big deal and
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Speaker 1: I will never really know until we get to the
15:26
Speaker 1: games and see these guys attempt to execute, like calling
15:29
Speaker 1: the games from a spot that they're not used to
15:32
Speaker 1: calling the games. And it's one of those parts of
15:36
Speaker 1: the business that never really gets talked about. But unlike
15:39
Speaker 1: most businesses, and let's face it, in a weird way,
15:42
Speaker 1: we're all kind of competing against other people in our industries,
15:45
Speaker 1: but it's not as like tangible head to head one
15:47
Speaker 1: day like it is in football, because come Sunday, mid September.
15:53
Speaker 1: If you're you know, Brian Flurry as the offensive coordinator
15:57
Speaker 1: for the Seattle Seahawks, you're going up against Vrabel and
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Speaker 1: his DC. Right if you are Sean Mannion and the
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or Joe Brady calling like, you're going up
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Speaker 1: against that defensive coordinator who more than likely, especially depending
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Speaker 1: on your opponent, has been sitting in the same spot
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Speaker 1: for years doing that gig. So I don't know how
16:17
Speaker 1: you put a like how big of a challenge, like
16:21
Speaker 1: how to quantify it? But it's not nothing. It's not
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Speaker 1: nothing now, And I think the biggest key is how
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Speaker 1: fast within the first month, two games, eight games? However,
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Speaker 1: are you just completely at ease and you don't even
16:35
Speaker 1: think about it because anytime you have to go back
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Speaker 1: and forth. Obviously, these head coaches are not They're set
16:41
Speaker 1: on the field, but the coordinators that are feeling it
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Speaker 1: out during the preseason shows you like they don't know.
16:49
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just call spade to spade. They are
16:52
Speaker 1: just unsure where to go. When Vic Fangio gets ready
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17:01
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's all I have to say. Peyton Manning
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19:12
Speaker 1: The majority of players in the NFL do not retire
19:16
Speaker 1: on their own. They are released. And Christian McCaffrey, looking
19:21
Speaker 1: at his contract today, this year he makes twelve and
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19:29
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19:39
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19:44
Speaker 1: assuming the tightness, which he feels like he has every
19:47
Speaker 1: single year he had last year, then he had seventeen
19:49
Speaker 1: touchdowns and then two more in the playoff game. It's like, hey, guys,
19:52
Speaker 1: I'm thirty years old, I got another baby on the way.
19:55
Speaker 1: This position at any moment can drop off a cliff,
19:58
Speaker 1: like I'm gon some cash, and I've always defended players,
20:02
Speaker 1: you know. In football, it's funny. It's like you split
20:06
Speaker 1: the revenue. I don't know if it's fifty one forty
20:08
Speaker 1: nine or fifty to fifty, but whatever the pot is,
20:11
Speaker 1: the players are essentially supposed to get half. Yet the
20:14
Speaker 1: owners know they get their half. It's just guaranteed to
20:18
Speaker 1: them get the players because it's so splintered, you have
20:21
Speaker 1: so many they're all fighting for little tiny pieces. Now
20:24
Speaker 1: a little tiny piece of billions of dollars can be
20:28
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars. Like it's a lot of money to
20:29
Speaker 1: an individual, but you have to unless you are the
20:33
Speaker 1: elite of the elite once you get to a certain age.
20:35
Speaker 1: Vidave is like, I've been one of the best players
20:37
Speaker 1: on this team. Hey, I've been pro bowler, team captain,
20:42
Speaker 1: been just a a constant for this defense, which until
20:48
Speaker 1: las year has been pretty good, and I've been a
20:50
Speaker 1: high end player. They're like, yeah, no contract for you. You know,
20:54
Speaker 1: the Glazers don't ever go well, who do I negotiate?
20:57
Speaker 1: From my side of the revenue. It just comes to it,
21:00
Speaker 1: which is the best part of the business owner these teams.
21:03
Speaker 1: And I never fault players forgetting ugly with contracts. It's
21:08
Speaker 1: a good life lesson to everybody. Obviously, most human beings
21:11
Speaker 1: don't deal with those price points. But people, and listen,
21:15
Speaker 1: I've been there before in my life where you're like
21:18
Speaker 1: unsure it asks for a raise, Like the only person
21:20
Speaker 1: who's ever gonna fight for you truly is yourself, and
21:23
Speaker 1: then the only person who's gonna care the most about
21:25
Speaker 1: you is gonna be you. So you have to worry
21:28
Speaker 1: about yourself first and foremost, and that could be tough
21:30
Speaker 1: in this team environment. But like the Niners find themselves
21:33
Speaker 1: in these positions where it's like we've paid all these
21:36
Speaker 1: guys and then they constantly need raises. It's like, Trent,
21:39
Speaker 1: we just paid you, need another raise? Underpaid Christians, like
21:42
Speaker 1: we just paid you it's like, well, I'm now I'm underpaid.
21:44
Speaker 1: I need a new raise. Guaranteed money's out there. There
21:47
Speaker 1: have been some rumors like is Bosa truly hurt ors?
21:49
Speaker 1: He's sneaky doing one of these. It's like, and I
21:52
Speaker 1: also understand the team side. Let's just hypothetically say Bosa
21:55
Speaker 1: is doing some kind of soft, soft hold in. It's like, Nick,
21:59
Speaker 1: you've already tour in your ACL twice on our dine.
22:03
Speaker 1: We can't give you a big extension now, we need
22:05
Speaker 1: to see you play. And he's going, well, if I
22:07
Speaker 1: tear my ACL again playing for you guys, my career
22:10
Speaker 1: could be over. So if I ain't fighting for myself now, fuck,
22:12
Speaker 1: I might as well just play. You know what's the point.
22:16
Speaker 1: And you go, Christian, well, you signed this contract extension
22:18
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Well yeah, now it's way undervalue,
22:21
Speaker 1: and now the guaranteed money's This is the you know,
22:24
Speaker 1: push and pull with the front office side, the coaching side,
22:28
Speaker 1: and the player side. And players have more juice now,
22:31
Speaker 1: and the Niners often find themselves in position where their
22:34
Speaker 1: players have all the leverage because Nick Bost a couple
22:37
Speaker 1: of years ago when he was holding out, like what
22:38
Speaker 1: are you gonna do play without me? Look at your
22:41
Speaker 1: other defensive lineman. Do you think anyone else get a
22:43
Speaker 1: pass rush? Trent Williams like, yeah, I've held in three
22:46
Speaker 1: years in a row. What are you gonna do? Play
22:47
Speaker 1: without me? Have you seen the other four offensive lineman
22:49
Speaker 1: you're playing with. You can try to tell everybody they're
22:52
Speaker 1: really good. Like they watch them, they all feel kind
22:54
Speaker 1: of average, but we all know that I'm not. So
22:58
Speaker 1: whatever I want, you're gonna give me. And it's pretty
23:00
Speaker 1: rare in life when you get leverage, and luckily for
23:04
Speaker 1: a lot of the Niners guys, right, we saw this
23:07
Speaker 1: with Tony Romo. He had a bunch of leverage. He
23:09
Speaker 1: used it, and then they resented and hated it for him,
23:12
Speaker 1: and he clearly didn't produce and entertained at the level
23:15
Speaker 1: in which they had become accustomed to. Trent Williams like,
23:18
Speaker 1: I play, I'm really good, right, so no one ever complains.
23:21
Speaker 1: You know, McCaffrey thing is just risky because when he plays,
23:24
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's I'm not a big fantasy guy though.
23:27
Speaker 1: We're just starting a three and out fantasy league with
23:30
Speaker 1: the Volume Crew. It's gonna be my first ever Official
23:33
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Season. I told this group chat for like
23:36
Speaker 1: twenty guys, I'm like, hey, I don't know, just have
23:40
Speaker 1: them auto draft for me. Everyone's like, you couldnot was
23:44
Speaker 1: like it's a very offensive in the fantasy community. I'm like,
23:47
Speaker 1: just auto draft, I'll still fucking win the thing. And
23:49
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm not that arrogant about it, but I
23:53
Speaker 1: do think that Christian McCaffrey like, what are you gonna do?
23:55
Speaker 1: Play without me? Good luck? You know you can't, Kyle,
23:58
Speaker 1: you know you want to give me the ball every
24:00
Speaker 1: single play. And also if you're John Lynch and Kyle Shannan,
24:03
Speaker 1: it's like, are we really gonna give this guy like
24:05
Speaker 1: a multi year extension like forty million dollars guarantee in
24:08
Speaker 1: next year in the previous year. What if this year
24:09
Speaker 1: does go bad and then all of a sudden we're stuck.
24:12
Speaker 1: This is the hard part about football is injuries play
24:14
Speaker 1: a huge part. You gotta be very careful with extending
24:16
Speaker 1: older players. It's why I've supported you know what Jason
24:22
Speaker 1: Light's done with Vidavea. Like, if I'm the forty nine ers,
24:24
Speaker 1: like I'm just playing it out, You're not gonna like
24:27
Speaker 1: you're just not gonna hold out all season. You're not
24:29
Speaker 1: gonna get your nine hundred thousand dollars a game right now?
24:33
Speaker 1: Will kind of call your bluff on it? And maybe
24:36
Speaker 1: he would. I don't know. I mean, I'm a smith
24:37
Speaker 1: that at once upon a time and Jerry krackt so
24:40
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen as much anymore because usually teams just
24:44
Speaker 1: give in and capitulate and kind of give a bunch
24:46
Speaker 1: of money. I just think this is pretty delicate. And
24:50
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Christian mccaffert guy, you know. I admire
24:54
Speaker 1: what he stands for, how hard he plays, how hardy works.
24:58
Speaker 1: So if it is the case that he wants a
24:59
Speaker 1: little more, I guess I understand where he's coming from.
25:03
Speaker 1: Though if I'm the Niners, I probably just hold firm.
25:06
Speaker 1: The other story that's become pretty interesting is like Tom
25:10
Speaker 1: Brady bought the Raiders or a little piece of them,
25:13
Speaker 1: and then no one would let him into the facility.
25:15
Speaker 1: And then it turns out Trey Aikman started consulting the
25:18
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and helped him hire Halfley and John Eric Sullivan,
25:24
Speaker 1: and now he's also got the same regulations of like
25:26
Speaker 1: you're not allowed in the facility, So when you prepare
25:29
Speaker 1: for these games and a little inside baseball, maybe it's
25:33
Speaker 1: changed a little bit depending on the crew. But like
25:36
Speaker 1: when I worked in Philly, if the Sunday Night crew
25:39
Speaker 1: was doing it, Mike Tarico, Collinsworth, whoever would show up
25:42
Speaker 1: by like Friday, and they would be at your facility.
25:45
Speaker 1: On Friday, they would go to practice, and then by
25:47
Speaker 1: Saturday they would meet with the other team at the
25:50
Speaker 1: hotel and that's where they would get other nuggets. They
25:53
Speaker 1: would already have prepared and then they call the game Sunday.
25:56
Speaker 1: And I've always argued when Brady wasn't allowed in, you
26:00
Speaker 1: don't think the quarterback, the coordinators, and the head coach
26:03
Speaker 1: and the GM aren't gonna call Tom Brady back. And
26:05
Speaker 1: I would say the same thing about Troy Aikman. Here's
26:08
Speaker 1: the thing they got going for right now. They're both
26:11
Speaker 1: associated with teams who suck. Maybe the Raiders become a
26:15
Speaker 1: little bit better this year, but in recent memory they
26:17
Speaker 1: haven't matter. And many people, I would say, are in
26:21
Speaker 1: agreement that the Dolphins are gonna suck. I even watched
26:23
Speaker 1: a clip from Jeff Hafley where he essentially admitted this
26:27
Speaker 1: year is gonna be rocky, right, we kind of set
26:30
Speaker 1: this thing up to have a rocky year, which I support.
26:33
Speaker 1: I would have done the same thing. And if Troy
26:38
Speaker 1: Aikman was consulting the Buffalo Bills and Tom Brady owned
26:43
Speaker 1: a piece of the Philadelphia Eagles or the San Fransco
26:46
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, I don't think anyone would talk to him.
26:50
Speaker 1: How could you In this league where every inch matters,
26:54
Speaker 1: where coaches tell you to defend every blade of grass,
26:58
Speaker 1: where every margin of extra information can be the difference
27:02
Speaker 1: of drafting that guy and turning down this guy or
27:05
Speaker 1: not signing this guy, I think it's easy to kind
27:09
Speaker 1: of be like, yeah, well it doesn't even matter right now,
27:11
Speaker 1: but they are. If either of these teams ever became relevant,
27:16
Speaker 1: I don't see how anyone could tell them anything. And
27:19
Speaker 1: I don't blame these guys, Like if I was Tom
27:21
Speaker 1: Brady and Mark Davis gave me the opportunity with these
27:23
Speaker 1: other rich guys, I would have bought into. If Steven
27:25
Speaker 1: Ross gets on the phone and says, hey, I'll offer
27:27
Speaker 1: you a couple million dollars and you kind of miss
27:29
Speaker 1: having a little skin in the game, totally understand and
27:32
Speaker 1: historically let's be real. If Andy Reid and John Madden
27:35
Speaker 1: were extremely close, I bet John Madden had like Mike.
27:39
Speaker 1: Him and Mike Holmgren were like very very close friends.
27:43
Speaker 1: I'm sure other guys that I don't even know about, right,
27:46
Speaker 1: I would imagine Chris Collinsworth and before Troy Aikman got
27:49
Speaker 1: involved with the Miami Dolphins, they have close personal friends.
27:54
Speaker 1: As coaches, they become close personal friends with these gms.
27:57
Speaker 1: We're all human beings. I just think people. I think
28:02
Speaker 1: it's hard for people to understand. Like if I didn't
28:05
Speaker 1: do this and was just in insurance or in real
28:08
Speaker 1: estate or something, my fandom would be way different, Like
28:12
Speaker 1: my interaction, like I root for people, like I love
28:16
Speaker 1: John Schneider has been so fucking cool to me. You'd
28:19
Speaker 1: like you're a Niner fan, Like I love that guy.
28:22
Speaker 1: Like you don't think I'm rooting for the Seattle Seahawks
28:24
Speaker 1: and John Schneider to have continued success. Like if I
28:28
Speaker 1: text how wee, I'll get a text back within twenty minutes,
28:31
Speaker 1: like even though he fired me, like I have, we
28:32
Speaker 1: have a great relationship, Like you don't think I like
28:35
Speaker 1: you just root for your personal relationships. I have friends
28:37
Speaker 1: on different teams and all these gms or executives that
28:41
Speaker 1: I've met over the years that I bounce things off
28:44
Speaker 1: of and they help my business in this show, like
28:46
Speaker 1: I become a fan. Now it doesn't matter what I do.
28:50
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I'm not in the NFL, so
28:53
Speaker 1: no one has to worry, and they can tell me
28:55
Speaker 1: things that they know I'm not gonna say right or
28:57
Speaker 1: I'll tell them like, hey, I won't mention that. But
29:00
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different when you were literally calling
29:02
Speaker 1: the games. And I just wonder if this situation it's
29:06
Speaker 1: not that big a deal now because I got we're
29:09
Speaker 1: playing the Dolphins, But what if the Dolphins in four
29:11
Speaker 1: years are like the Bills and are a consistent, awesome
29:14
Speaker 1: team or the rate what if Fernando Mendoza turns into
29:17
Speaker 1: the next Brady Rakeman and they're just a powerhouse. I'll
29:20
Speaker 1: promise you this, Like I'd feel very uncomfortable saying anything
29:24
Speaker 1: to anyone if I was the Chiefs, if I was
29:26
Speaker 1: the Chargers, if I was the Bills, I was in
29:28
Speaker 1: these AFC teams, because you know, part of the reason
29:31
Speaker 1: John Gruden, you know, one of his first moves is
29:34
Speaker 1: they signed Darren Waller. Well, how do you know about
29:36
Speaker 1: Darren Waller? Because he was doing a bunch of Ravens games,
29:39
Speaker 1: doing him Monday night football, and he had access, he
29:41
Speaker 1: was hearing about him, he was going to practice and
29:43
Speaker 1: watching him play. And again that's a tiny little example.
29:46
Speaker 1: But and I'm not saying even the Ravens I forget
29:49
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. I think Waller had to step away
29:53
Speaker 1: from the team or whatever. But you just have access
29:55
Speaker 1: going to practice, like look at that guy in the
29:57
Speaker 1: practice squad, look at that backup right. You just find
30:01
Speaker 1: out things, and coaches are more willing to tell you things,
30:04
Speaker 1: you know, when you're just a broadcaster with no affiliation
30:07
Speaker 1: just because I like you. I mean, half of my
30:09
Speaker 1: informations I get from people that I like, they're my
30:11
Speaker 1: friends or you know, have strong personal relationships with and
30:17
Speaker 1: the moment I'm viewed or you know, these people in
30:20
Speaker 1: these spots are viewed as a competition and as someone
30:26
Speaker 1: that could hurt what I'm trying to do. Like if
30:29
Speaker 1: I was competing against all these people I text with,
30:31
Speaker 1: they would not text me back, definitely in season when
30:35
Speaker 1: I'm picking their brains about players. So I think this
30:39
Speaker 1: could get a little more complicated if either one of
30:41
Speaker 1: these teams got good before we do mail bad questions
30:46
Speaker 1: quick Dad diaries. Jack spent the week must be nice
30:51
Speaker 1: in Newport. He's already vacationed more in his first seven
30:53
Speaker 1: months than I probably did my first five years of life.
30:56
Speaker 1: And we were down, you know, I did, And then
31:00
Speaker 1: I drove down about an hour south of where he is,
31:03
Speaker 1: in the heart of LA and spent Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
31:08
Speaker 1: And on Friday, one of Maria's best girlfriends who lives
31:11
Speaker 1: in northern San Diego, Carlsbad, Oceanside, I always get screwed
31:15
Speaker 1: up and her husband grant that they came up, that
31:19
Speaker 1: they stayed with us. We had we'd run a condo.
31:22
Speaker 1: Her mom had been staying with Maria had left, so
31:25
Speaker 1: we had an open room and she's like, come, hang up,
31:27
Speaker 1: bring uh your they have a young daughter who's just
31:29
Speaker 1: turned one. Like, let's hang out. So on Friday we
31:35
Speaker 1: had all day, so the babies were sleeping or whatever.
31:38
Speaker 1: We're like, finally about one o'clock we're like, let's go
31:40
Speaker 1: into the city and have some lunch in the city.
31:43
Speaker 1: I just mean, like the kind of the keys right
31:46
Speaker 1: on the waters. It's awesome. So we have some lunch
31:49
Speaker 1: at this swanky spot that's right on the water, overlooking
31:52
Speaker 1: some like yachts, and everyone's having a good time and
31:55
Speaker 1: then we're all of a sudden like let's walk around.
31:57
Speaker 1: So we're walking around and eventually were like, let's have
32:01
Speaker 1: a cocktail. So we see this place that does a
32:03
Speaker 1: beautiful view and we sit down, but it's that this
32:06
Speaker 1: weird time. It's like three thirty four, and we're like, hey,
32:09
Speaker 1: can we get you know, table for There was four
32:13
Speaker 1: of us, a couple babies, and I had a buddy
32:15
Speaker 1: coming to meet us, and so the waiters thinking, yeah,
32:17
Speaker 1: you guys want to eat at early dinner. And I
32:19
Speaker 1: kind of downplay it because I didn't think they would
32:22
Speaker 1: give us the sweet area if they didn't think we
32:25
Speaker 1: were drinking or I mean didn't think we were eating.
32:27
Speaker 1: But we had no plans to eat. We had just ate,
32:30
Speaker 1: so like, oh yeah, just they gave us one of
32:31
Speaker 1: the best tables there. So the girls order a couple
32:35
Speaker 1: of glass of wine, we ordered a couple of beers,
32:38
Speaker 1: and you got these babies, you got to hold them
32:40
Speaker 1: kind of they wouldn't sit in the you know, the
32:42
Speaker 1: strollers their arms are just like, you know, it's like
32:46
Speaker 1: a defensive line drill. They're just moving. So you gotta
32:48
Speaker 1: be very careful with the glasses or just anything. I mean,
32:50
Speaker 1: it could be the bread or the silverware. They will
32:53
Speaker 1: just swipe things and chip will fly everywhere. And I
32:57
Speaker 1: kept holding my glass, you know, kind of by Brent
33:02
Speaker 1: the other baby, and Grant kept moving it away, kept
33:06
Speaker 1: moving it away, and you're just not paying attention. And
33:09
Speaker 1: then I kind of actively doing it. And then I'm
33:11
Speaker 1: not really paying attention. Everyone's talking and she swipes that
33:15
Speaker 1: thing and it goes flying, shatters everywhere. So I'm like,
33:19
Speaker 1: uh so flag down. The guy, who I can already
33:22
Speaker 1: tell is kind of feeling us out. We're probably not
33:24
Speaker 1: gonna eat, not thrilled, and they get someone to clean
33:28
Speaker 1: it up, and then eventually we're like, oh, let's have
33:31
Speaker 1: one more. So we have another one. And then I
33:34
Speaker 1: get the bill, which he's now you can just tell
33:37
Speaker 1: by his vibe. I don't blame him at all because
33:40
Speaker 1: he's given us a bill. We've taken one of the
33:42
Speaker 1: best seats. We've been there for a couple hours. The
33:45
Speaker 1: bill's gonna be under one hundred dollars. I mean, you know,
33:48
Speaker 1: if you're getting multiple people at this restaurants, I wouldn't
33:51
Speaker 1: say it's nice, but I mean, if you're eating, it
33:53
Speaker 1: would be way higher than that. This guy's tips are
33:55
Speaker 1: big deal, especially down there on the way out before
33:59
Speaker 1: the bill comes. Jack does like a Bruce Lee kick
34:04
Speaker 1: to another glass. It does like ten spins like it's
34:08
Speaker 1: a Brandon Aubrey kick, bounces off the chair, shatters on
34:12
Speaker 1: the ground. I'm like, oh my god, we have shattered
34:17
Speaker 1: two glasses in like an hour and a half. We're
34:19
Speaker 1: not eating, and yeah, it was just a disaster. We
34:23
Speaker 1: tried to pick it up with our hands. Eventually just
34:25
Speaker 1: kind of give the guy, try to give him a
34:27
Speaker 1: little tip and leave. But you know, you take kids
34:30
Speaker 1: to these areas, they get hyped up. You gotta be
34:32
Speaker 1: very careful about the swinging arms and legs around the table.
34:36
Speaker 1: But great spot, beautiful area. And then we went home
34:40
Speaker 1: and had some more, and then we realized the next
34:43
Speaker 1: day had way too many when we got home, being
34:46
Speaker 1: hung over around little kids. It's just it's it's it's
34:51
Speaker 1: not something you would sign up for, you know. And
34:53
Speaker 1: sometimes you're with other people, you're having a good time,
34:56
Speaker 1: and you know, you just you're back at the spot.
34:58
Speaker 1: You don't need to worry about driving around, and all
35:01
Speaker 1: of a sudden that cries come, you know, like two
35:04
Speaker 1: in the morning, and you would rather be doing anything else.
35:08
Speaker 1: But they did chatter two glasses, so good start the day.
35:25
Speaker 1: Let's bang through a couple more mail bag questions. Mailbag,
35:31
Speaker 1: can you name a college football team in the last
35:33
Speaker 1: decade that won a national championship that didn't produce at
35:36
Speaker 1: least one legitimate NFL star. Listen to your latest podcast,
35:40
Speaker 1: you mentioned that everyone was stealing signs. I disagree. Before
35:45
Speaker 1: Harbass Slash Stallions, Michigan was a nine to ten win team.
35:48
Speaker 1: During the stylent stealing era, they became a dominant team
35:52
Speaker 1: and won a championship. Yet, so far, that championship roster
35:56
Speaker 1: hasn't produced a true NFL star. Quorum is mid, Karthy
36:00
Speaker 1: hasn't shown much, Loveland or Colston could be cut. Sam
36:06
Speaker 1: Still is solid, Mason Graham is the last hope. I mean,
36:08
Speaker 1: Mason Graant is pretty good. All rookie team. Did Colton
36:11
Speaker 1: Lovelin play on that team? They also literally all their
36:15
Speaker 1: toll team was drafted. Their entire basically twenty two stars
36:19
Speaker 1: were drafted. Now you can say some guys are overrated
36:21
Speaker 1: quarterback for sure, but and Cooram was always like a
36:26
Speaker 1: really good college running back. Remember LSU won with Clyde
36:32
Speaker 1: Edwards Alaire, but they were an offensive team. Michigan was
36:36
Speaker 1: a defensive team. Both their corners were drafted, Their entire
36:39
Speaker 1: defensive line was drafted. I'd have to google the linebackers.
36:43
Speaker 1: Pretty sure those guys probably are playing the league or
36:45
Speaker 1: definitely got a shot. I mean their dbs, both their corners.
36:49
Speaker 1: I mean the one kid last year had the knee issues.
36:52
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be a first rounder and then
36:54
Speaker 1: got banged up. I actually think that's a pretty good
36:56
Speaker 1: draft pick by the Arizona Cardinals. But that team was
37:01
Speaker 1: It was probably better than the individual some of its parts,
37:05
Speaker 1: but it was loaded with NFL players, loaded with NFL players.
37:09
Speaker 1: Did it have the high end of some of the
37:11
Speaker 1: other teams. Yeah, we're in agreement there, But when every
37:15
Speaker 1: single one of your players is going to get drafted,
37:18
Speaker 1: I don't know. My point is like that was hardball
37:22
Speaker 1: by far that couple of years stretch. His best roster
37:25
Speaker 1: not even debatable, not even debatable. So of course they
37:29
Speaker 1: won more games than some of their nine to ten
37:31
Speaker 1: win teams when they just had way better players. So
37:34
Speaker 1: I hear the skepticism of the stealing, the shadiness of stallions.
37:40
Speaker 1: I just think that I promise every team's doing it.
37:43
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. Why is all
37:47
Speaker 1: there's this hate on Green Bay. I understand that we
37:50
Speaker 1: don't have Michael Parsons for the first half of the season.
37:52
Speaker 1: The national media keeps pointing out that we lost all
37:55
Speaker 1: of our games when he went down, but we also
37:58
Speaker 1: lost a lot of good players in the game. We
38:02
Speaker 1: lost Micah, We lost Zach Tom, who was one of
38:05
Speaker 1: the better right tackles in the league. By the time
38:07
Speaker 1: the playoff game against the Bears happened, we were down
38:09
Speaker 1: to Tucker Craft, Zach Tom, Davante Wyatt, our best, DT, Parsons,
38:13
Speaker 1: Jenkins starting center, and if the kicker makes just one
38:17
Speaker 1: of the three kicks, we win the game. I'm always
38:21
Speaker 1: hesitant to count the Packers out, And when I count
38:23
Speaker 1: them out, I could just see them having Like I mean,
38:25
Speaker 1: they won nine games last year something similar right that
38:29
Speaker 1: their organizations speaks for itself. I just think they are unknowns.
38:32
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of guys coming back off injury,
38:34
Speaker 1: including your best player who we don't know when he's
38:37
Speaker 1: coming back, and you got you know, you lose a
38:40
Speaker 1: couple of wide receivers even though they weren't that productive
38:42
Speaker 1: last year. You're pretty dependent on Watson, who you just
38:46
Speaker 1: gave a bunch of money to stay on the field,
38:49
Speaker 1: and the Texas kid Golden to like take a big step,
38:53
Speaker 1: and Jacob's like could get suspended. So I think there
38:57
Speaker 1: are questions. I by no means if you told me
38:59
Speaker 1: the Green bait Ckers won the division, wouldn't be surprised
39:02
Speaker 1: at all. If you told me they missed the playoffs
39:05
Speaker 1: by a game, wouldn't be surprised at all. If you
39:07
Speaker 1: told me they were a six seed, wouldn't. I just
39:09
Speaker 1: think there's some variance with them, which is fair. They've
39:13
Speaker 1: really kind of churned the roster if they were fully healthy.
39:16
Speaker 1: If you told me all those guys finished the season,
39:20
Speaker 1: even they lost a weird game at the end, but
39:22
Speaker 1: they're all healthy coming back, I'd be like, yeah, they're
39:24
Speaker 1: super Bowl contender, because they were a super Bowl contender
39:27
Speaker 1: last year till all those guys got injured. How do
39:29
Speaker 1: you believe Peter Woods for the Chiefs will be. Coach
39:34
Speaker 1: Reid and Tyron Matthew both compared him to having similar
39:36
Speaker 1: traits to Aaron Donald. So how good of a player
39:40
Speaker 1: do you believe he will be for the Chiefs? I
39:43
Speaker 1: think the guys he's a good example last year. Coming
39:46
Speaker 1: last year at this time, a lot of people thought
39:49
Speaker 1: that he was going to be a top ten pick
39:53
Speaker 1: and if it went really well, he could be like
39:55
Speaker 1: a top five or six pick, like one of the
39:57
Speaker 1: first non quarterbacks off the d depending on how it
40:01
Speaker 1: shook out. And then Clemson just had a disastrous season
40:05
Speaker 1: and they still had a bunch of guys drafted in
40:07
Speaker 1: the you know, all over the first several rounds, but
40:10
Speaker 1: they completely underachieved. And I think you're kind of betting
40:14
Speaker 1: on the season got weird. He has the physical skill
40:17
Speaker 1: sets you know, to be a high end player, but
40:20
Speaker 1: he didn't play like that last year. I think guys
40:25
Speaker 1: like that are just wild cards. You know? Is it
40:28
Speaker 1: just because most human beings in football and light are followers,
40:34
Speaker 1: So when shit starts going bad, most people go left.
40:37
Speaker 1: When everything's going good, most people follow that. Right, most
40:40
Speaker 1: people aren't gonna be follow me to freedom be the
40:43
Speaker 1: leader to handle crazy shit going on I've told this
40:46
Speaker 1: story before, but I remember talking to Adam Peters at
40:49
Speaker 1: a Niner practice and USC was in shambles, And usually
40:54
Speaker 1: when programs are in shambles, there's are bad mouthing guys
40:57
Speaker 1: because that's kind of what coaches do, it's what humans do.
41:00
Speaker 1: And he's like, it was getting pretty ugly. People were
41:02
Speaker 1: getting fired left and right, and you couldn't find one
41:05
Speaker 1: person in the program say one negative thing about talanoa Hufunga,
41:10
Speaker 1: because there are certain individuals that just rise above it, right,
41:14
Speaker 1: and that's pretty rare. Most guys are not, And just
41:17
Speaker 1: because you don't doesn't mean you're not gonna be a
41:19
Speaker 1: good player. So I know vitually liked him. He's got
41:24
Speaker 1: the right defensive coordinator, he's got a Hall of Famer
41:28
Speaker 1: that he gets to be in a position group with
41:30
Speaker 1: with with Chris Jones, you know, Karloftis's guy got a
41:35
Speaker 1: second contract, so they got a lot going for him. Like,
41:38
Speaker 1: he doesn't really have any excuse to not live up
41:41
Speaker 1: to the hype. If he doesn't live up to the hype,
41:42
Speaker 1: it's simply on him. Because he was, like you universally
41:46
Speaker 1: thought of as a top ten pick last year and
41:48
Speaker 1: then their season went that bad. I mean it went
41:51
Speaker 1: bad and it wasn't because they lacked talent. Quarterback did
41:55
Speaker 1: not play well last year. But so I don't know.
41:58
Speaker 1: I would probably just bet on figuring it out. Is
42:02
Speaker 1: going to be Aaron Donald. No, there were question marks
42:05
Speaker 1: about Aaron Donald beside his height coming out of college.
42:09
Speaker 1: Almost all the media coverage I've seen the past week
42:12
Speaker 1: has downplayed the significance of preseason games. We all understand
42:16
Speaker 1: that they quote don't count, and for technical purposes, they're
42:21
Speaker 1: truly meaningless. However, watching the games this week, and I
42:25
Speaker 1: couldn't help but think that a lot of these games
42:28
Speaker 1: have more of an impact on quote morale inside the
42:31
Speaker 1: locker room and on the practice field this coming week.
42:34
Speaker 1: Watching your team get curb stomped can't have a net
42:37
Speaker 1: zero effect on a team, can it? Or the opposite,
42:40
Speaker 1: Watching your team dominate, even if it's just the backups,
42:43
Speaker 1: has to make the locker room and practice field a
42:46
Speaker 1: lot more fun the following week. Would you agree? No,
42:51
Speaker 1: I think whether you win or lose, and your starters
42:53
Speaker 1: are all on street clothes, play well or play bad,
42:56
Speaker 1: I don't think it means anything, because if you play bad,
42:58
Speaker 1: all the starters go. I wasn't now, there wouldn't look
43:01
Speaker 1: like that if I was playing. And if we play well,
43:04
Speaker 1: it's like, how many these guys are even gonna be
43:07
Speaker 1: playing during Week one? So I hear what you're saying.
43:12
Speaker 1: I think the famous example is the year the Lions
43:15
Speaker 1: went oh in sixteen, they ran the table in the preseason.
43:19
Speaker 1: So I I just don't think it matters at all.
43:23
Speaker 1: Now if your starters, if you see things with your starters,
43:28
Speaker 1: an older veteran player look slow or they don't look
43:31
Speaker 1: as good. Yeah, you know, physically, then that would be concerning.
43:35
Speaker 1: But like if Joe Burrow goes out and they go
43:38
Speaker 1: three and out, I think it has no impact whether
43:41
Speaker 1: they play well week one or not. You know, you'd
43:43
Speaker 1: be like, well, John, you always talk about humans, and
43:45
Speaker 1: I just I think it's a unique thing that veteran
43:50
Speaker 1: guys and coach have been in the league a while.
43:53
Speaker 1: I do think it is important for the morale the
43:54
Speaker 1: backups and the guys that play a lot, and guys
43:58
Speaker 1: that want to build on stuff and earn playing time
44:02
Speaker 1: and gain confidence going into practice. For the guys that play,
44:06
Speaker 1: that's jobs are in question where they don't have a
44:09
Speaker 1: set position, like, am I backup? Am I third stringer?
44:12
Speaker 1: Am I a practice squad guy? I'm it is important,
44:15
Speaker 1: but I think whether you win week one or week two,
44:19
Speaker 1: I think it has little to no bearing because you're
44:21
Speaker 1: also you're not playing like you would in the regular season.
44:27
Speaker 1: You're not for the most part game planning. You are
44:30
Speaker 1: just running the plays in which you have practiced very heavily,
44:34
Speaker 1: especially the first preseason game. It's just like your base stuff,
44:38
Speaker 1: and you're just running it over and over and over.
44:41
Speaker 1: So I it's a valid question, but I just I've
44:47
Speaker 1: seen it for too long. I just don't think it
44:49
Speaker 1: matters on the whole right for individuals, yes, maybe for
44:55
Speaker 1: a coordinator to get comfortable where he's gonna stand, a
44:57
Speaker 1: little stuff like that, but like the actual starting unit
45:01
Speaker 1: that plays, Some don't play at all, some play a
45:04
Speaker 1: couple series. I just I don't know. I don't think
45:07
Speaker 1: it means anything. I don't beat a dead horse. But
45:11
Speaker 1: the Sunday ticket price going up every year just has
45:15
Speaker 1: to have less and less games on It is absurd
45:18
Speaker 1: to me. It feels like, with the rising cost to
45:20
Speaker 1: be able to watch every game through Netflix, Prime, et cetera,
45:24
Speaker 1: that the Sunday Ticket should be discounted, and obviously it's
45:28
Speaker 1: way less entertaining on the package. Do you think this
45:31
Speaker 1: is a negative impact for the NFL or do they
45:33
Speaker 1: not care at all? I remember reading about it a
45:36
Speaker 1: while ago. I don't have it off the top of
45:37
Speaker 1: my head. I think the people that actually have the
45:40
Speaker 1: Sunday package is much smaller than you'd imagine. The overwhelming
45:45
Speaker 1: percentage of football fans just watch you know, they live
45:52
Speaker 1: in the general area as their team, and they watch
45:55
Speaker 1: their team on you know, the local you know what CBS.
45:59
Speaker 1: You get all If you live in Philly, you get
46:02
Speaker 1: all the Eagles games. You live in Dallas, you get
46:03
Speaker 1: all the Cowboy games. Right Seattle saying you guys get
46:06
Speaker 1: through drift a number of subscribers for Sunday Ticket. The
46:15
Speaker 1: NFL Sunday Ticket reached an estimated two point one million subscribers,
46:20
Speaker 1: So in the grand scheme of things in the NFL,
46:23
Speaker 1: it's a pretty small number. And I don't disagree with
46:26
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You know, there are a week, especially
46:29
Speaker 1: during the byes, when the primetime games Thursday, Sunday Night,
46:34
Speaker 1: and Monday Night are all good. The Sunday slight can
46:37
Speaker 1: be terrible. Now, it doesn't mean good games won't come
46:40
Speaker 1: out of bad matchups, but yeah, I mean, I you
46:44
Speaker 1: could argue it sucks if you're a Browns fan and
46:47
Speaker 1: you live in Arizona, or you're a Patriot fan and
46:50
Speaker 1: you live in Florida, Like, you don't really have a
46:52
Speaker 1: choice if you want to watch your team unless you're
46:53
Speaker 1: gonna go to a bar. But just to be honest,
46:58
Speaker 1: the Sunday slate has been pretty average for a while
47:02
Speaker 1: now for a large percentage of the season. Now, the
47:06
Speaker 1: CBS and Fox, depending on the week, gets a sweet
47:09
Speaker 1: afternoon game. Sometimes you look at the morning games, you're like, cheez, Louise,
47:13
Speaker 1: I do this for a living, Like can I just
47:15
Speaker 1: go to the gym and check back in at halftime?
47:19
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's it's a real thing. But
47:23
Speaker 1: twenty one year to year growth they say thirty seven
47:26
Speaker 1: percent increase from the previous season, So in twenty twenty four,
47:30
Speaker 1: one point five million people. I do think a big
47:33
Speaker 1: reason is it's much easier now with YouTube TV. But
47:37
Speaker 1: use the Netflix thing like that's there's only a couple
47:39
Speaker 1: weeks in the holidays. Uh, it's to me, what's really
47:44
Speaker 1: changed Sunday is the power of Thursday Night. They've gotten
47:46
Speaker 1: really good games, and now that ESPN doesn't have people
47:50
Speaker 1: in their network saying cancel football, they start getting better
47:53
Speaker 1: games with the World Cup, having chips in the balls
47:56
Speaker 1: to determine off sides, et cetera, having the league owners
47:59
Speaker 1: or anyone for that matter, come out in favor of
48:01
Speaker 1: having chips in the footballs to finally get the spot accurate.
48:05
Speaker 1: It only makes sense since football is a game of
48:07
Speaker 1: inches and technology is clearly available hot take one. Soccer
48:13
Speaker 1: is different because it's way more open space, so you can,
48:15
Speaker 1: even with the technology, you can clearly see, you know,
48:18
Speaker 1: in football, in the tush push, you got thousands of
48:22
Speaker 1: pounds laying on top of each other. I kind of
48:25
Speaker 1: missed the human element of sports. I heard someone say
48:28
Speaker 1: this a while back, like, no, I don't watch that
48:30
Speaker 1: much baseball, But they're like, I do watch a lot
48:32
Speaker 1: of baseball, and I don't think I've seen one manager
48:34
Speaker 1: of scream at an umpire like that used to be
48:37
Speaker 1: a big part of my childhood, just people screaming at
48:39
Speaker 1: each other, and you know what, it was entertaining. I
48:42
Speaker 1: kind of obviously in basketball, if you slow motion you
48:47
Speaker 1: can tell that actually didn't go off this guy. It
48:49
Speaker 1: went off this guy's fingernail. Yet, if you've ever played
48:52
Speaker 1: pick up basketball and you both reached for the ball,
48:54
Speaker 1: you always went you kind of knew even if you
48:56
Speaker 1: know it just it was like, yeah, it was off you,
48:59
Speaker 1: but it kind of felt like it was He's like,
49:00
Speaker 1: take the ball. I just think the human element of
49:03
Speaker 1: life has taken away from some of our entertainment. It
49:09
Speaker 1: really has. Now. If you're gambling on the game and
49:12
Speaker 1: you get fucked, which I have, it's very easy to
49:15
Speaker 1: get very angry that you just simply go, this cannot happen.
49:18
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna take all the gambling money, which
49:20
Speaker 1: clearly has become a huge part of the business model,
49:25
Speaker 1: it's gotta be pretty black and white, like he either
49:28
Speaker 1: got the first down or he didn't. He either caught
49:30
Speaker 1: the ball or he didn't. Either got in the end
49:32
Speaker 1: zone or he didn't. Right, it's gotta be very objective personally,
49:38
Speaker 1: if I'm not gambling on the game, like I kind
49:40
Speaker 1: of like chaos. Everyone's like the Chiefs. The League's haven't
49:44
Speaker 1: been for the Chiefs. Speaking of the Chiefs, I don't
49:49
Speaker 1: know about the chip and the ball. I truly don't
49:52
Speaker 1: care one way or the other. I would imagine they'll
49:54
Speaker 1: eventually do it. Being a Chiefs fan, see McDuffie go
49:58
Speaker 1: for pick twenty nine, who's arguably top five guy at
50:01
Speaker 1: his position in his prime, compared to an aging Dexter
50:04
Speaker 1: Lawrence go for pick ten. It makes me wonder if
50:07
Speaker 1: the Chiefs truly are uh looked around enough? Or did
50:11
Speaker 1: the Bengals overpay? Was it due to his position? A
50:15
Speaker 1: lot of factors here. One. I think most people would
50:19
Speaker 1: say in most drafts, that's an insane trade from the Bengals,
50:23
Speaker 1: But because this draft was shitty, they were able to
50:26
Speaker 1: trade a pick that usually untouchable for a defensive tackle
50:31
Speaker 1: that's a little older, you know, coming off a bad year.
50:34
Speaker 1: But like it was kind of a unique situation. I'm
50:37
Speaker 1: pretty sure he was under contract and the only thing
50:40
Speaker 1: they had to do was like add one more year,
50:41
Speaker 1: twenty seven million dollars. Trent McDuffie got one hundred million
50:44
Speaker 1: dollar contract, So you how many teams were willing to
50:48
Speaker 1: give them a first round pick and then give the
50:50
Speaker 1: guy a I think one hundred million dollars guaranteed. Maybe
50:54
Speaker 1: it was eighty. Trent Meffy contract. McDuffie got one hundred
51:02
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. So if you're going to trade for
51:04
Speaker 1: a guy one hundred million dollars guaranteed, like, you gotta
51:08
Speaker 1: have a lot of conviction in the player. He's got
51:10
Speaker 1: a definitely the position to need. You know, you could
51:13
Speaker 1: be like, well, the Lions needed a corner even when
51:16
Speaker 1: they had Arnold, You'd be like, well, they also need
51:18
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. So I I think it's more complicated. I
51:23
Speaker 1: think his position factors in. I think some teams feel that,
51:28
Speaker 1: you know, if they run certain type defenses, they can
51:30
Speaker 1: find like a zone corner. I think some people in
51:32
Speaker 1: the elite got little overrated, would be strong, but like
51:37
Speaker 1: elite slot corner is he He's not Darrell Reevis in
51:42
Speaker 1: his prime outside, So I think there's give and take
51:45
Speaker 1: with that. And then again it's just the money. So
51:50
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. It's a little like the NBA.
51:53
Speaker 1: If the Rams go, we will trade a first round
51:56
Speaker 1: pick for you because you have to work with the
51:57
Speaker 1: agent and we will offer you this contract. Well, if
52:01
Speaker 1: so and so team that's drafting a little bit higher,
52:04
Speaker 1: let's say pick twenty two says hey, we'll trade for
52:06
Speaker 1: McDuffie two and offer him this contract, but it's twenty
52:10
Speaker 1: million dollars less. The agent and the player are gonna go, well,
52:13
Speaker 1: we're not going to sign that contract, So that that
52:16
Speaker 1: factors in as well. So it's trading a player who's
52:19
Speaker 1: gonna get a huge extension. Is definitely way more complicated
52:22
Speaker 1: than Dexter Lawrence who just was under contract. Cool with
52:25
Speaker 1: playing on that contract and they just kind of sprinkle
52:27
Speaker 1: a little on at the end. It was basically a
52:31
Speaker 1: seventy three million dollar difference in actual cash of what
52:38
Speaker 1: you had to sign the moment you got the player.
52:44
Speaker 1: Ever since Hard Knocks have the Chicago Bears, I've been
52:48
Speaker 1: keenly aware of Tyson bage It. From my view, he
52:52
Speaker 1: looks to be a very solid quarterback. He definitely looks
52:54
Speaker 1: like a starter in the league. What are your thoughts.
52:59
Speaker 1: I think there's a crew of these guys right now.
53:01
Speaker 1: You know, Davis Mills is one. People thought Tanner McKee
53:06
Speaker 1: was one, and then he didn't play as well last
53:08
Speaker 1: year when he got his opportunity. I think you never
53:11
Speaker 1: truly know just based on preseason, But I'm with you,
53:13
Speaker 1: like you watch him last year and this year he
53:15
Speaker 1: definitely looks pretty good. And if you're a team that
53:19
Speaker 1: you know next year, I think he's he's signed a
53:22
Speaker 1: two year extension last year, so he's gonna be a
53:23
Speaker 1: free agent after this year. You know, you want to
53:27
Speaker 1: get like a Kirk Cousins level bridge for whoever your
53:31
Speaker 1: quarterback is. I don't think it's crazy to give him
53:34
Speaker 1: like fifteen million dollars his offseasons a one year bridge
53:37
Speaker 1: and he gets his opportunity to pull like a Sam Donold. Now,
53:40
Speaker 1: is he gonna get a huge contract? Probably not, But
53:43
Speaker 1: I definitely think some of these teams they're gonna be
53:46
Speaker 1: drafting quarterbacks that don't feel comfortable throwing the guy out
53:49
Speaker 1: right away. I think they would be in the business
53:52
Speaker 1: of giving this guy like the bridge quarterback number. If
53:56
Speaker 1: a team ever wanted to trade for a guy like
53:58
Speaker 1: Howie from the Eagle is the GM, What do you
54:01
Speaker 1: think the team would have to give up as far
54:03
Speaker 1: as picks? Well, here's the problem. If you're Howie Roseman
54:09
Speaker 1: and you ever were gonna go to a new team,
54:12
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to have them get rid of picks.
54:15
Speaker 1: So if it ever got to the point and he's
54:18
Speaker 1: been the GM, now what started in ten, took the
54:20
Speaker 1: year off like fifteen plus years, He's probably not gonna
54:24
Speaker 1: be the GM there for thirty. That's usually not the
54:26
Speaker 1: way it works, though, if it just keeps going well,
54:29
Speaker 1: probably be a time when how he's a GM for
54:32
Speaker 1: another team, just kind of the way the business works historically.
54:36
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting that to happen. But if you told
54:40
Speaker 1: me in twenty and thirty five how he Roseman was
54:42
Speaker 1: the GM of Team X and not the Eagles, I
54:44
Speaker 1: think that's understandable. Right, coaches move around, especially for money.
54:49
Speaker 1: If they ever got to the point where the Eagles go, yeah,
54:53
Speaker 1: we're just you know, you having some contract negotiations. You
54:57
Speaker 1: think you're valued the worth as much as the top coach,
55:02
Speaker 1: and they're not willing this. Maybe you just play your
55:03
Speaker 1: contract out and you become a free agent because they're
55:07
Speaker 1: not gonna fire you. Right, You definitely don't want to
55:10
Speaker 1: get traded, because you would tell the other team, do
55:11
Speaker 1: not trade for me. If I have one you're left
55:14
Speaker 1: on the contract, We'll just run it out and then
55:15
Speaker 1: I'll become a free agent and then they can choose
55:17
Speaker 1: whether they want to meet your price. So I think
55:20
Speaker 1: that would be more likely than a GM ever agreeing
55:24
Speaker 1: to like two first rounders or something. How he's like,
55:28
Speaker 1: I need those first rounders to make this team good.
55:30
Speaker 1: It wouldn't make any sense. I think he would be
55:33
Speaker 1: the guy that'd be like, I'm not doing it. I
55:37
Speaker 1: think if he ends up on another team, any of
55:39
Speaker 1: these guys, it's because they let their contract run out.
55:43
Speaker 1: And some of these guys, if it ever got to
55:46
Speaker 1: that point, would be because it is kind of risky, right,
55:49
Speaker 1: things could just get weird. You just never know. These
55:52
Speaker 1: guys are all gonna be so rich by that point
55:54
Speaker 1: they could they could afford to take the risk. Okay,
56:10
Speaker 1: we'll end on this. Why does everyone consider Lamar Jackson
56:15
Speaker 1: an elite all time quarterback and Dak essentially a bum?
56:19
Speaker 1: But in reality, although stylistically different, they are essentially the
56:24
Speaker 1: same player. They've had awesome regular seasons, can't get it
56:27
Speaker 1: done in the playoffs, yet Lamar has talked about like
56:30
Speaker 1: the best player in the league. Just want to hear
56:32
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Well, I do think stylistically adds an element
56:36
Speaker 1: anytime think about you know, the top running quarterbacks of
56:42
Speaker 1: my life, Steve Young late eighties, early nineties, Randall Cunningham,
56:48
Speaker 1: I don't really vividly remember him running around, but you
56:52
Speaker 1: watch the highlights obviously, Vic Lamar, Russell Wilson. There is
57:01
Speaker 1: an extra spotlight that just goes on those guys because
57:03
Speaker 1: they are spectacular to watch run around and make place.
57:06
Speaker 1: So I think that adds to it, right, because you
57:09
Speaker 1: would be like, what, you know, Lamar's won MVPs. Lamar's
57:13
Speaker 1: been a better player than Dak, but he probably gets
57:18
Speaker 1: elevated based on his shitty playoff performances because of how
57:22
Speaker 1: great he was in the regular season. Yeah, I'd say
57:24
Speaker 1: Michael Vick's the same thing, you know, you just want
57:27
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't think I've ever seen anything like
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Speaker 1: this that that place to it. I really think it's
57:34
Speaker 1: just that simple, you know. But again, Dak doesn't have
57:37
Speaker 1: an MVP. Lamar's got two, you know, I do think
57:41
Speaker 1: if Dak had two MVPs. I do you think Lamar's
57:47
Speaker 1: gotten a little pass historically for the playoffs? I mean
57:50
Speaker 1: that game against the Chiefs when they were at home,
57:54
Speaker 1: was your boy had? I mean's one of the one
57:58
Speaker 1: of the largest individual wagers I've ever on a game
58:02
Speaker 1: put on Lamar on the Ravens. I think I bet
58:05
Speaker 1: three straight weeks against the Chiefs, I lost a lot
58:08
Speaker 1: of money. I mean, it's an unhealthy amount. I bet
58:12
Speaker 1: against him against the Niners, I didn't bet as much.
58:16
Speaker 1: I definitely did the same bet Ravens Niners against the Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: That cost me a pretty penny. I don't remember the
58:24
Speaker 1: exact bills bet, but that didn't go my way either.
58:26
Speaker 1: That didn't go way either. So I remember watching that
58:30
Speaker 1: game very closely, and I was pissed because I remember
58:34
Speaker 1: watching Lamar play that Niner game on Christmas, thinking like,
58:37
Speaker 1: this defense is unreal. This player's unstoppable. There's no The
58:41
Speaker 1: Chiefs that year were kind of weird. There's just no
58:43
Speaker 1: way they were gonna beat him. And you know, Monkin
58:47
Speaker 1: deserves credit for the loss, you know, or criticism for
58:50
Speaker 1: the loss as well, like he's under that part of
58:52
Speaker 1: the ledger. But god, Lamar looked like completely different. Spags
58:56
Speaker 1: just punked him. He did. I mean, there's no way
58:58
Speaker 1: around it. I don't give it. The middle couple of
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Speaker 1: the stat up. We watched the game, I was like,
59:03
Speaker 1: what is going on? Obviously there's eight flowers. Fumble didn't help,
59:07
Speaker 1: but man, that that was that was called like playing
59:13
Speaker 1: a Sunday Round with Tiger Woods in his prime, and
59:15
Speaker 1: they got tight and it showed. I would say, obviously
59:19
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl wins are the defining moments of the Chiefs.
59:24
Speaker 1: That to me is the best AFC win. They had
59:27
Speaker 1: to go on the road with that team against that team,
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Speaker 1: number one defense, MVP at quarterback, Mike fucking McDonald calling
59:35
Speaker 1: the d and they only scored what was the final score,
59:39
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten. It's not like the Chiefs scored forty.
59:42
Speaker 1: You just can't lose it home. When your opponent has
59:44
Speaker 1: Patrick mahons. They scored seventeen points, you lose can't happen.
59:47
Speaker 1: Pretty sure it was like fourteen. They had fourteen of
59:49
Speaker 1: those points in the first half. Could be wrong as
59:51
Speaker 1: off memory, but man, that was that was right. But
59:57
Speaker 1: I watched Dakla two awful games against the forty nine
1:00:02
Speaker 1: ers back to back years with McCarthy, and then the
1:00:04
Speaker 1: Packer game wasn't all his fault. I mean, the defense
1:00:08
Speaker 1: was atrocious, but he did throw a pick six, which
1:00:13
Speaker 1: you know, there weren't that many points in the playoff game.
1:00:15
Speaker 1: They weren't that game for the Packers. But you can't
1:00:17
Speaker 1: be throwing pick sixers in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure
1:00:20
Speaker 1: he has five interceptions Dak in their three losses those
1:00:24
Speaker 1: three years with McCarthy who the year that they lost,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: they lost the Niners in San Francisco. I thought the
1:00:33
Speaker 1: Cowboys were pretty good. I mean that Zeke was washed then,
1:00:38
Speaker 1: but their defense was unreal and Dak did not play
1:00:41
Speaker 1: good in that game. Was terrible. Honestly, he was. He
1:00:45
Speaker 1: was not good in that game. If he just played solid,
1:00:48
Speaker 1: they beat the Niners and they're in the NFC Championship game.
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Speaker 1: So I think I think they're very similar. But the MVPs, like,
1:00:55
Speaker 1: you have two MVPs and you have zero MVPs, Like,
1:00:59
Speaker 1: we're gonna think more high lee of the guy with
1:01:00
Speaker 1: the two MVPs, even if he can't run, and any
1:01:03
Speaker 1: factor in the running and not just the running. I mean,
1:01:05
Speaker 1: he had a couple of year stretch where he was
1:01:09
Speaker 1: the best running quarterback we've ever seen, because by the
1:01:12
Speaker 1: time Steve Young was winning MVP, he wasn't really a runner.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: He was much more of a pocket quarterback. Mike Vick
1:01:18
Speaker 1: never won an MVP, got close in ten with Philly.
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Speaker 1: Two MVPs. Pretty big deal. It's pretty small company, like
1:01:28
Speaker 1: most guys like there are a lot of one offs
1:01:30
Speaker 1: in the league. When on that, have a great day
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Speaker 1: audio else, talk to everyone soon, see you later. The
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