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EL TREN DE LA VIDA 27-06-24 · EL TREN DE LA VIDA

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Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the
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train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I
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want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world,
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a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace
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and freedom. The train of life is a magaxine of good news and hope.
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This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and like so
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many truth seekers, of the only truth that can make us authentic free come
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on, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all,
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which will certainly take you to safe harbour. This is the train of
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life. Well, very good morning, ladies and gentlemen, good morning Spain,
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good day. From this corner of our Iberian lot Julio Pérez speaks to
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them. Let' s ride again, let' s go ahead, come
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with us. This is the train of life. Ha ha ha. Ladies
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and gentlemen, well found, this morning already in summer, it seems to
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me a lie, but it is true, uh, we are already in
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the good weather. They already see me a little more, not unscathed,
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because today in shearing today, but almost how good it is to go free
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of the weight of so much, so much coat and so much. No
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And now, then, also watching the vacation that many will already be thinking.
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Well, listen, I' m a retired, jubilant who' s
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here as a volunteer, a very willing volunteer, but it means most of
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the people who have their working day and their work annually, because they'
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re waiting, well, with almost anxiety on vacation days. We' re
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already there a stone' s throw away. Julio is already a very vacation
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month and August of course, because already the great evasion of all the world.
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Well, the truth is, we' re glad it' s summer.
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Welcome to this train of life party. It' s an open dialogue
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party with very good friends Look, we have here in the studio this morning.
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It is a pleasure to have with us Jauma full and you already know
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or Mallena is the coordinator of the biblical groups of graduates of GBU also with
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so many jobs of multidimensional, multilevel in terms of professionals, academics, entrepreneurs,
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students. Of course, and well, we' re going to talk
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and you know that Jauma, in addition to being a training lawyer, is
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a chat room for many radio forums, including the Life Train, is a
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lecturer and coordinator of GVG. Then he' s with us and we'
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ll talk about the other look of the day and see that the current situation
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here is a little rabid in our country. But, well, let'
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s not be so rabid, so it' s a little more serene.
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But let' s try to find the keys to what is happening and what
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would need to happen to yaomallenas here on the train of life, the other
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look of the present and soon we will meet live and live with Esther Martínez.
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Vera Esther Martinez. Apart from being good, Esther is very versatile because
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she is a writer, psychologist, university professor at the University of Tarragona and
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then they have their consultation. She has been a shepherdess for many years with
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her husband Eduardo Brasier and Miren. I' ll tell you something. Esther
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Martínez teaches the pastors about the pastoral function, what pastoral counseling is like,
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etcetera, etcetera. A lot of issues, but today we' re going
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to talk to her. He calls me Julio. I' m writing a
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very advanced book on stress. Killer stress, at worst, isn' t
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called that the book, uh, but about stress. And then, well,
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you want us to talk about how to fight stress. I had the
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list of issues and if we are going to talk about how to fight stress,
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how to anticipate these crises, especially very busy people. There are not
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those who live in low mode It is said today that it is slow,
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but this is difficult in this century. But, with Esther Martinez, the
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psychologist, a great writer, let' s talk about how to combat the
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stress that can lead us, in the worst case, to a state of
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panic anxiety and even depression. If we don' t have a sense of
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anticipation. Well, then there' s that doctor, the modest rock doctor,
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he' s going to talk to us. I asked him to tell
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us about rheumatism. This is human ran. Look I already have my years,
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i e, although it doesn' t seem so, but Facebook'
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s friends will say. They tell me the other day that I was in
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Madrid with several groups and friends and so and said listen, but you are
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that age and I say then, it will be my other self, but
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yes, the case is that then osteoarthritis and the bones that gnash a little
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and then you rheumatize in arthritis problems, rheumatoids or anything that is going to
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point at us, to make some notes about it. And, above all,
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fibromyalgia is a matter in a little that is becoming known if it is.
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There are many cases of fibromyalgia already underway many people suffering from these diseases
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unknown until now the fribomealgia and will give us some guidelines to take into account
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to see if we can relieve some of these physical pains with the help of
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our doctor of head, the lotus Roca, besides being active family doctor and
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has my age taken care, we are of the same age, but still
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in exercise and moreover, he is pastor and is a theologian, he is
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a graduate in theology, he is a character. It' s you who
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have that accent and that good verb and it' s going to help us
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a lot. Do not miss arthrosis, rheumatism and fibromyalgia. Today with Dr
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Roca. And finally, if they allow us, we will reproduce the Spanish
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television program on wave peace or a pau cataluña like the station, which has
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already been almost a quarter of a century in the air and our particular history,
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And then the train of life, according to many of the new generation
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journalists, which has been the precursor of the format of the chat, of
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the interview of Magaxine in the year ninety- two, there was practically no
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such program we started and well, it seemed interesting and some of the testimonies
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of people who knew Jesus through this medium of the train of life. Well,
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listen to him. You can see it by Five ou Like directly,
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but you will also hear it in audio this magnificent interview directed by this bal
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Lozano, the director of Good News Television, together with Benny Moreno, because
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we go there, let' s enjoy it now don' t miss it,
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is and follow us. Through Facebook. Through Facebook I feel pain like a
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man does not and even though my eyes of eternity I use to determine ogan,
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my hands can still touch and being the ground my feet in the walk
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and even if I walk in a direction or I am merry, time passes.
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I feel that I have contented myself with just waiting and life is a
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net that has been given to us to enjoy than to live with more desire
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to sing and alarm me without a measure with masses and their healed wounds,
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scorches lives. I want to sit at the table and with my friends alone
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sorrows, toast for life and never unreserved, whether it matters to me,
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cienón un es or that from your lips I can brush and they are like
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home to my palar and although in my eyes they see the earthly disease happens
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well. I feel like I' m content with just waiting for hor and
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life is a gift that we' ve been given to enjoy I want to
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live with more desire, sing and rejoice without measuring with my reasonableness, her
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healed wounds. It' s short- lived. I want to sit at
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the table and with my friends sun life sorrows, toast all my life and
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never ungracer be looked at by tabzas, grain zelons. B for your safety
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u wear the belt. We' ve replaced this announcement of nine hundred and
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seventy- three because not wearing the seatbelt looks like a thing of the past.
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Let' s look at the effects of a collision at 50 kilometers per
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hour, cin tilolisures, but it' s not. Today. One in
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four road deaths was not wearing a seat belt Put on a belt General Traffic
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Directorate, Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain. If you want to
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visit our website, the Hueb www. Stop the train of life, the
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train of life. Or, ladies and gentlemen, yes, with good company
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here with full jamas, as I announced in our studio, in the master
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car of the train of life. Good morning, yaoma, good morning,
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Julio, this time in presence director here you and I in this house that
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is your home to me too. Thank you. Yeah, listen, you
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can talk about a thousand things. Now the Gestians are talking about everything and
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no subject that is not our own. We have the subject to talk about
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things, the earthly, the heavenly and the ultra- galactic as well,
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but I mean that politics in all life to the social and political chronicle gives
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of itself. But there' s all kinds of flanks there. Well,
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now we' ve got the General Council' s sainet, the judiciary.
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You' re a lawyer and you understand the subject of laws, but they
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finally agreed after more than five years. You know this is like going out
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shopping with your wife. And then you' re going to buy in the
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first store and you say I can' t find anything here that works for
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me and you go to the second, you go to the third, you
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go to the fourth, you go to the fifth and you' ve been
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buying all afternoon without buying anything. And then he says hey we go back
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to the first store, because this is what happened here in this situation.
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I do not know this agreement is the same one that was offered five and
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a half years ago and that was rejected because it was inescapable. Totally what
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at that time was inescapable now is the best of the solution, in a
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solution that everyone agrees that we are all happy with it. It was necessary
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to go through this, it was necessary to punish the Spaniards for five and
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a half years, holding captive a power of the State such as the judiciary.
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We' re talking about the third authority in the country. We'
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re talking about a super important thing here and, instead, the games seem
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to play for that sometimes we' re talking about another kind of games now.
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It seems that due to the lack of capacity of the traditional political parties,
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other parties are emerging on the right and left, which is not so
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much because of their successes, but because of the failures of those who have
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to be doing politics in this country. Yes now what, although the chemistry
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of the People' s Party and the Socialist Party are not to stand each
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other in any way. This is the question and I believe that in Europe
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there are not two parties as allergic to each other, as in Spain,
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at least as far as I read and I know and see that Italy has
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a brutal political anarchy that, by the way, paradoxically Meloni, which has
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been decorated a little further to the center right, more than abandoned a little
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bit the relatively more radical ultra- right to be more moderate is ruling well,
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that is to say, but what here there is no way to understand
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us on issues. This is one of them. The General Council of the
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Judiciary, of course, invoked the issue of the independence of judges, which
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the legislature did not condition the judiciary. And of course here there is a
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conflict of powers and the executive, the legislature, the judiciary. We would
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have to resurrect Montesquiu to give us master classes on the separation of powers.
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There is, yes, but it is true that perhaps what was said and
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then they were undone and in the end they have reached an agreement. I
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think they' ve reached an even- handed agreement with me. It seems
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to be minimal, but it was what was possible at the moment. But
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they have also committed themselves to reforming the system and I believe that the key
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is the reform of the system that is coming in the future, because this
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cannot happen again in a country where institutions work. No one can be held
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captive and clear in the system that you need two- thirds. That that
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was done so that no one party could only name all the judges in favor.
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Yours is that you' re going to need the opposition party also to
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agree on who' s going to be the judge' s government. But
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this has turned out now that what has ended up producing is the captivity of
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the General Council of the Judiciary, for which it now has it and does
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not want to lose its influence and wants to have a government, wants to
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have a state power subject to a party. Because what has happened now is
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that for five and a half years, the judiciary has been subject to a
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party that did not want to change it that blatantly failed to comply with that
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Constitution from which one then tucks himself. No, then this can' t
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be One. He cannot have the Constitution as a way of holding a State
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power captive. Therefore, what is being said at the moment is that perhaps
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what should happen is that we should go to a mixed system, a system
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in which the legislative branch elects a part of the General Council of the Judiciary
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and its own career, as happens elsewhere, the judicial career itself chooses the
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other half of the General Council of the Judiciary, so that it is much
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more difficult to block than has happened so far. Well, if it was
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a formula more equa is and more flexible. Another of the things that has
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been agreed and that is very interesting, is what has happened with Mrs Delgado,
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who was a Minister of Justice and is appointed Attorney General of the State.
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This is, this is very partisan your life. It means this isn
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' t supposed to happen. It should not pass, that is, those
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revolving doors that are established to control institutions, the institutions of the State.
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It is necessary to have more respect for the institutions of the State, not
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capitalize on them by a party or on the clear side of this, an
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agreement has been reached that has to stop five years for that to happen,
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two years for there to be a return to the judicial career. If you
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are a Minister, you have a public position of first level to two years
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to reintegrate into the judicial career and five to represent or preside over a body
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of how, the General Social Sports Council, so the Attorney General' s
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Office, the Supreme Court, all the sense of the world, then it
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' s okay. This is me I think it' s an interesting deal.
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However, Spanish justice is very blocked. It means there is so much
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saturation, the judges are overflowing in minor or intermediate matters. There' s
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a barbarous judicial collapse. By doing justice late. It is a way of
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not doing justice, because sometimes, when the sentence comes, the situation in
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which the two sides are today is so different that even that is no longer
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a solution to the situation in which they are actually in. Therefore, one
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way to commit injustice is to extend a judicial sentence, two years, three
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years, four years, and so there are sentences in Spain that are there
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indefinitely stopped. Of course, of course, well, we will see what
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happens to the current Attorney General, because this man, the subject of the
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boyfriend, of the President of the Community of Madrid, ayu the boyfriend,
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who is the boyfriend who here quite respects life, deprives political, to say,
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of the issue of Begoña. Gomerus is that he has gotten into the
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spectrum a little bit in the political skillet, but in general, the relationships
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of sixteen is what he wants to be. He' s got a friend
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or a friend or a partner. Now, as a rule, nothing is
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said, no one gets in, but of course there he cheated the Attorney
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General of the State. Then, of course, because there is a sting
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because of course, the President of the Community of Madrid is a baor,
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a one hates death to the preyet of the government and they bite to the
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first and change. But it seems to me that there is one question that
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is the right or the other, the ultra- right and another thing that
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is populism, and in Madrid it is getting fucked. Absolutely is an absolutely
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populistar government, it is not a government that the People' s Party should
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consent to, that is, it is something they have to say. I
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am willing to lose Madrid to order my own house, because there is a
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disorder in the Popular House that in the end, somehow, somehow, the
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medal to my law has precipitated the decision of the General Council of the Judiciary,
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one thing and the other. Without the medal to my law we would
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probably be without renewing the General Council judicial power, because I take a punch
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at the table said here I command and this has gone completely out of hand.
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Of course it represents this of popurism, it is simply the worst part
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of politics, because it is done in the name of the people, but
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without the people it is not, that is, it is fed to the
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lowest passions that the people have. Yeah,' cause I wasn' t
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coming. I count this speaking forgiveness in the expression to do the darn thing
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to President Sánchez, that is, in the medal, whoever my law is
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that it is a tearing I who know what this guy is. Not curiously,
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I don' t say that, regardless of what he can do in
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Argentina, which is a spermatic character in terms of staging, he has a
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reputation for being a good economist and then that' s around he gets a
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because there was also a factual power that they were stealing at times. But,
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well, he' s such a peculiar character that he comes here to
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insult. And that' s not right. That can' t be done.
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We don' t want another kind of politics and we already have it
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complicated enough in Spain, so that now we have to import populists, because
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it is really another example of populism what Miley is speaking on behalf of the
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people, acting on behalf of the people, doing the opposite of what the
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people need and talking about populisms that happens with the bisens this practically unknown character.
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Well, even though in the networks I was already making known. Of
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course the European elections. We now move on to the European level to facilitate
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the unification of voting across the country. There' s a chance that,
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well, that' s where you remember Gil and Hill came out, and
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that' s where Rumasa came out, too. The east memory, if
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you remember me not. I don' t remember, no, Luis Mateo
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is more, you see that he was wearing super bal te. You remember,
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it' s just the thing, I mean, in the end we
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' ll end up having the politicians we deserve, but beware of what you
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mean coming out with such expectant characters. They went out because they took advantage
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of some social discontent for these populisms and were already pioneers. And, well,
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he was good people who didn' t have a good ruiz Mateon either
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he wasn' t very understanding, because he was a successful businessman, but
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when he spoke he raised the bread and Gilly Hill was a total unpresentable man,
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but they managed to put together a vote. Just look at what he
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punched Boyer. That was the key, that is, the whole punch,
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what the fuck. It' s just that all the people were wanting to
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give it to the Minister of Economy, who was Boyer, because of the
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tax hikes. That' s how he gave it to her. Ruiz killed
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then with that dagger, this went up well a lot, but it was
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that he was a very brilliant minister. He comes along, I mean,
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while he was there, he didn' t do it wrong at all.
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But the question is this, that is to say, that they take from
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us the lowest we have. That, those low instincts that your brother-
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in- law has, is that you eat with him, because you can
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' t avoid it in any other way, because those brothers- in-
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laws that are in the Whatsapp groups, and so, these are those who
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go out with the albices with this kind of populism, with the Government of
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the Autonomous Community of Madrid, there is use, etcetera. All this is
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a style that does us wrong. But this is pointing to the fragility and
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weakness of the traditional political parties that in the end no longer represent us and
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when it does not represent good, and we are talking about right- wing
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populism, but left populism can have been a fiasco. It has also been
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pop populist and finally, a total fiasco. Well, what' s left
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of the retina of the daily social image is the law of yes alone.
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So, moreover, how dare they not say that the fiasco, which was
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the mistake that they did not rectify, that still and then the amount is
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to certain, apart from topics that were totally unviable, which means the social
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agenda of the left is interesting, but it is interesting when you work to
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a certain extent, because then we have a mountain air that dares to suggest
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that you should have sex with children. Okay. Of course it' s
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just that we' re going to a limit where you say good. This
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is no longer respectable. I mean, it' s a dor point.
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If you don' t respect the children of this country, you don'
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t have rights, that is because the children have rights, you don'
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t have to say any barbarity. And she said sorry, sorry I was
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wrong. He went to Latin America and said it again then we are in
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front of some people who really are a harm to the country. The ultra
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right, the populism, the story that is the ultra, the left,
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this is a damage to papolist. But we need moderate parties to stop behaving
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like ultra parties, because in order not to lose votes on the right,
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the PP moves to the box and the PP to not lose votes on the
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left, the weight is to move direction and have smoked. No. No,
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it is that we need focused parties, parties that are really the party
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of the majority of the population, so that the population does not just follow
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the voters, but also suggest ways. I told them once talking to Sanz
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Santa Maria, I told her that you have an exemplary role in the country,
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because people follow you in some way and when you insult yourself, you
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offend, when you talk about that language, you are casting that kind of
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anger on the population and you are dividing the country even more by four votes
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that you are destroying the soul of a wood. It matters a pepper,
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but they should care about it then there' s a lot of it,
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too. The President is a major cynic in many respects. Others will have
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their reasons and convictions to do everything wrong, but many things I and I
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don' t know, but this is practiced a lot in politics. More
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and more political cynicism, that is to say I admit in politics that we
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have to have a certain political itch, but there will be politicians who still
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admit the itch, which can be the frontier of many things, honesty,
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transparency, dialectical, social discourse, ethics, for example, look. It
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' s Illa, good at some things. I don' t come with
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him, of course. But he is an independent man, who also has
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the political pattern, which is of political litter. But what difference does it
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make to Salvadorilla? No, because now it can' t be that he
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will be the next President of the Full, and so that' s for
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sure, because I' m sure it has to end this way, because
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of the back of independence. But he is a man who is educated,
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he is a man who is serene, who is temperate, who has a
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verb, who is conciliatory, who has made it easier for others to govern
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understanding, who has a culture of covenant. If Sanchez falls, by the
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way, in Spain at some point and he and flees to Europe or wherever
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he wants. The next candidate of the Socialist Party with face and eyes can
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be her. Uh, but there' s a flaw in it. Yes,
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it' s Catalan. Ah well, yes, if you have ever
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chosen the next can in Spain, those guys were Andalusian Galician Aragonese, there
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was no problem. That is but when he has governed Catalan democratically. That
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is why the Socialist Party of Catalonia has told us not to make any sanchez
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moves that we will no longer sell ourselves to the highest bidder, as you
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have done means no no here or it is and there is already an excision
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between the PC and the weight. And that' s what that backstage means.
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We are talking as if no one heard us no, but qui but
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the one who has as he does not have leadership of that calibre the Social
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Party beyond Sanchez, this man remember what I tell you today in the two
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thousand twenty- four, in June, the end of the two thousand twenty
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- four, if he will no longer be the next candidate of the Socialist
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Party as President, although probably the right, because he points out ways to
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accede to the next government. But the thing is, it was like that.
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Another thing about European policy is what will happen in France. It'
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s very ralicidal. Yeah, let' s say we call elections, which
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is what they' re telling you. Why do you call for election because
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listening to the people is the basis of democracy. And when you look at
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yourself and say I don' t know if I get the same numbers.
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The people are no longer with me the same way. The citizens of this
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country have lost confidence with me, especially when you lose a European election and
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you are like the third party of the elections, so you have to stand
35:34
in front of the mirror and say follow me or I am ruling without anyone
35:40
behind me. I think you' ve done well. I think you'
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ve done well, even if you risk, of course, even to give
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way to the extreme right. The blame for the extreme right winning elections is
35:52
not macron' s fault, of course, the French are going to vote,
35:57
it' s not macron who are going to vote only French and those
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who have to look in the mirror also before going to vote, to see
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if we' re going to not fall into other worse questions, we'
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re going to put the wolf, to rule the sheep because this is the
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problem. We' re going to put the wolf, rule the sheep.
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Then be careful Melenchón, who is the leader of the French left pen le
36:23
and good his say now the leader that Maria Lepena has raised this young man
36:34
also as leader of his dolphin, not as it is called now. But
36:38
it is at the extremes notice, because practically Melenchón coincides with the ultra right
36:45
in several, in various left culture, also on the left look. How
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they only have extremes among those who catch, practically the French today or choose
36:54
the extreme left. Choose the extreme right by the failure of the right-
37:00
wing tradition that disassembled and got inside Macron' s party and the moderate left
37:05
that had simply always been a ruling party in France, the Socialist Party,
37:09
but completely disassembled in front of this situation. It will not be the failure
37:15
of the centrist parties, of the parties that have vision of state or vision
37:21
of government that, failing these ethically that by failing in political project, are
37:27
leaving all space to the left, are to the ultras, to the other
37:30
right and to the other left. We should not return to a much more
37:37
moderate government of long- term vision, a vision that is not about ruptures,
37:43
but about smooth turns, which is what one country cannot volantarize, cannot
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be volantarizing from another place, because it is not going anywhere. On the
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other hand, if we want to have a country project for the next 100
37:54
years. We have to choose people who don' t just look at what
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the challenge is as a result of the next election. If you don'
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t think about France' s project, what is Spain' s project,
38:05
what is Italy' s long- term project to solve a crisis of immigrants,
38:10
for example, of course, but there is a topic in France,
38:13
with the issue of semints. And now I will tell you that an interesting
38:16
analysis to take into account because Jack Chirak, who was President for many years
38:22
of the Republic and then my terra, but miterran already had an empowerment with
38:27
the right, not with the right ultralla, but already had a government of
38:30
cohabitation, being a socialist, had a room with the right and good sea
38:37
that well took them from France. It wasn' t weird. It wasn
38:38
' t weird. They have more political culture, because because Parliament' s
38:45
elections are different from the presidential elections, then it changes and sometimes a left
38:51
- wing president had a right- wing government and vice versa. Now what
38:54
is happening in France, as I am collecting news from several French journalists,
39:01
the whole Islamic movement is huge. In France, Spain nothing. Spain has
39:07
two children and beak. France has five million and more Algerians, Baroques,
39:14
Africans, Turks and a lot of that. I think it' s eight
39:20
million. They are probably trying to organize themselves because of course the ultra-
39:28
right will repress, according to their understanding, their rights and also that I
39:35
have taken care that this must also be regularized by everyone, not only by
39:39
all immigrants, especially those who come who are given everything. I don'
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t know, because there are people very close to who are officials and they
39:49
say clearly have more pre- sales than those who come from outside and in
39:53
canteens, in grants, not everything. But it means that they want to
39:59
organize themselves to make a vote, they' re probably going to decant themselves
40:04
in favor of macrom It means that there can be a counterweight there, because
40:10
so many a considerable amount of whether to concentrate the vote, then the ultra
40:15
- right is not going to be so overwhelming anymore. The concentration of votes
40:17
can be produced anyway. We have to take into account something like the evangelical
40:24
vote in Latin America has not worked because we evangelicals do not all vote for
40:32
the same party, because we have different criteria. The same is happening with
40:37
Muslims in Europe. We think that, because they' re Muslims, they
40:42
' re all going to vote the same thing. And it' s not
40:43
true. You impose even a Muslim candidate on them and not all Muslims vote
40:46
for it, let alone because the religious vote is more divided than we think.
40:52
Not like this. In the United States, the white evangelical vote is
40:58
very concentrated on Trump supremacist. Eighty- one percent voted for Trump, but
41:02
not the Black evangelical vote, not the Latino vote, even being evangelical.
41:08
Soon we have to undo a little bit that idea that by having a religious
41:14
conviction, we are all going to vote for it, because this, in
41:17
reality, is not happening, but is quite different. Yes, yes,
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it is true that each context has to be analyzed. By the way,
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well, today you have the first debate, Jobaden and Donald Trump, and,
41:32
well, now it seems that the differences in distances of intention of whether
41:38
you will be cutting, it is true that you are going to go from
41:43
is a man who is not, is not, is not working. But
41:44
I have asked myself one and I would have spoken to friends of everyone,
41:47
of different estates, of Americans, and I say and you have no other
41:52
candidate, you have no other candity, one of the two parties is not
41:55
able to raise another amount. I say yes, because it has an expectant
42:00
of this magnitude of good, a monkey is going to save America from that
42:06
of secularism and such good, but yes, that argument. But, but
42:15
it' s not that alone. For that we have to present a candidate
42:21
who is immoral, who is a fraudster, not because they say so,
42:25
not because a journalist who does investigative journalism or discovers it easily and who is
42:31
a man who has no idea of the politics of a country as important as
42:37
the United States. Look at the candidate who was a woman, by the
42:42
way, with a Christian background, moderate, but religiously Christian, but a
42:49
more Republican- centered woman. In the last candidate who beat him well,
42:52
Donald Trump beat him. Of course, I don' t talk about santis
42:58
anymore, because I also didn' t think he was a better person than
43:02
tran yes, because, at least politically, he knows what' s going
43:07
on, but the but that would have been a good candidate, but the
43:12
money, the powers in actresses, having the rulers that deserve the factual powers.
43:15
Or for this and it goes to iDen, because that is that it
43:19
is a man also that is not and then erratic. I don' t
43:23
know, it' s a problem with all that. Country, a country
43:27
as important as the United States, in such fragile hands. But maybe this
43:30
is the problem. America was a country where there were strong convictions, People
43:36
had lucky convictions, but we have replaced convictions with a kind of nationalism with
43:40
a number of components that are a real risk to democracy, because a man
43:46
who somehow tries to prevent the transfer of powers to another who has won the
43:53
elections. No, not a strike. He gave me a coup d'
43:59
etat on all the rule that can be resubmitted. Then. This is a
44:01
risk to no memory, it' s a risk. I remember one of
44:05
the people who is Spanish, who is living there, something that was encouraging
44:08
one of the mobs that were taking the Capitol and me. But this is
44:16
crazy and a more powerful but Donald trun grace from the outside encouraging him on
44:22
the street and well, and it happened there were dead and well, it
44:25
was a whole whole thing that had never happened in a country. How is
44:29
it, that it is the world seat of democracy, that has to defend
44:32
democracy in the world, because already taken by a kind of nationalism. They
44:37
put nationalism with some components of moral conservatism, which makes people see that what
44:44
is unacceptable because this one proposes it and this one promises you three or four
44:49
things on the agenda, because you give it all the confidence, then you
44:53
can' t do it. It is true that we myself personally, of
44:59
course I say I am, I am not but abortist. I think abortion
45:06
is a matter that needs to be regulated to the fullest. I' m
45:10
not saying there are cases that have to be observed, but I' m
45:19
proven in every way. I also don' t think ideological colonization is right,
45:25
but increasingly savage of the WGBI movement in schools and in the social VI
45:31
they have the centers of power of opinion and they manage them, that is
45:38
to say and obviously, being exclusive to others. And of course, but
45:44
for those two things, well you' re ultra, right, no,
45:46
I' m not ultra- right. I am a Christian, I believe
45:51
in democracy, I do not believe in Francoism. I condemn him, and
45:55
not even an invocation of that kind seems to me to be no more than
46:00
a second, not more dangerous. That' s why and other similar issues,
46:07
but I believe in a social agenda that favors the citizenry, the workers
46:15
' movement, of course. But in the traps I don' t believe
46:20
either of the ultra- right right, or the ultra- left, obviously,
46:24
and they say good, but you' re ultra- hearing no,
46:27
no. I have the right to think what I want to say means I
46:31
believe in that proportion. No. But this is very very night this is
46:35
very anachronistic. This is going to be very arachronic. But I have convictions
46:38
and argument to explain why? But also, because I believe that my daughter
46:44
was born, that my son was born and that many friends were born who
46:50
had difficulties because there was no pro- abortion culture. Here there are extreme
46:53
cases of violations and, just as it seems that we extrapolate them to the
46:59
fact that almost everyone can suffer, there are few Christians in politics or Christians
47:06
who say good for these two issues with which I personally subscribe. That'
47:12
s why we have to go to extremes. That' s why we have
47:15
to go to line up with the extremes, with the extremes they have.
47:19
Moreover, the issue of migration must certainly be regulated, but it is inevitable.
47:24
We need the migratory movement due to the ageing of the population. If
47:29
we don' t stay the country is paralyzed and it' s going to
47:32
pay for the clues and paralyze generation. Yeah, but we have to do
47:36
a regularization. I believe one thing that says junes, and I think multi
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- reciprocals should be thrown out. It simply spreads, but in itself,
47:45
without regard to criminals. But in that kind of thing you have to be
47:52
more resolutive. But, of course, that anti- racial is not that
47:58
the majority of criminals are foreigners. Hey, hey, hey, hey,
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hey, hey, hey, Let us rationalize a little bit more of
48:04
Christian clear discourse in politics. If we go to the extreme or go to
48:07
the extreme, then we are also losing the rumo. Even if you say
48:12
things that are going to feel bad to pseudo progressive. This one not when
48:15
I say imagine I say if I was in the Congress of Members I have
48:19
an article, because I would say things that would sound, they would squeak
48:23
no, but they will surely go. This is from the albisins of the
48:28
evangelicals, but I would not think of the common good, well- being,
48:32
coexistence, democratic transparency. I would think of good practices, think of
48:42
universal Christian values, and think of universal human values that, after all,
48:45
are inspired by the Ten Commandments. Practically, that is, it also means
48:52
that beware of the tendencies of Christians who naively go to extremes because they believe
48:59
they will save the world. The problem is perhaps that we have reduced the
49:06
Kingdom agenda, which is a broad agenda, which is in the scriptures since
49:12
Genesis one. We must always remember that the scriptures do not begin in Genesis
49:15
three, but begin in Genesis one. With a good plan of God for
49:20
the human being, a plan of peace, that vestibule that God proposes to
49:23
the human being, which are the good and the right relations relationship with God,
49:29
relationship of the human being, with himself, relationship with others, with
49:31
the other system, relationship with the earth. And this is broken And then,
49:36
of course, the problem is that God wants to build a kingdom and
49:39
the kingdom is to return to the situation of the previous Shalom, to the
49:44
fall. And of course, that has a whole program, that has all
49:47
values. And instead, we have taken all this and reduced it to anti
49:52
- abortion, anti- LGTB, anti- feminism, anti- I don
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' t know what, and then we don' t have any proposals.
49:59
We' re the anti people and we' re not. We have the
50:02
Kingdom program equality, beauty, generosity. There we have the support of the
50:09
poor, by diminishing the Bible. There is much more talk about the poor,
50:15
about the foreigner, about the widow, about the orphan, about those
50:19
who are dispossessed by society. There is even the great figure within the scriptures,
50:27
which is the Jubilee. Jubilee is the most wonderful thing in Jubilee year.
50:30
The juine to proclaim exact, that is, when Jesus is in his
50:35
synagogue, the synagogue of Nazareth in chapter four of Luke Mal, I have
50:37
come to bring the lord' s favorable year this is the Year of the
50:43
Jubilee, for in the Jubilee all those who had lost their properties of righteousness
50:50
and so, all had to return to their original owners. All those who
50:54
had lost their freedom and become slaves were freed from a social tree, not
51:00
revolution. It' s because people are God' s and they' re
51:02
not mine. There was no culture in the world that would do that.
51:07
There is no such thing today as all people are God' s, all
51:12
properties are God' s, they are not mine. They are completely his
51:15
real and he retains the ability to redistribute them, the ability to restore freedom
51:22
to people, the freedom to return equality, because one cannot speak. Today
51:27
we talk about liberalism, but liberalism without equality is just letting the powerful continue
51:32
to abuse the weak. If there is no equality, there can be no
51:37
freedom. Freedom without equality is to consolidate that those who crush continue to represent.
51:43
Of course, there is a whole Kingdom agenda, there is one Kingdom
51:45
generation that will succeed, but why not some in us speak in the good,
51:52
there are not many. They don' t wire anything either. Well,
51:53
I do know some of them, but it' s not very common
51:59
that there' s a crinic, a social, political chronicle. But when
52:01
I see that they are decorated to a certain part, well there' s
52:07
the ultra. When I hear the ultra- left, if you' re
52:13
cousins, I mean, let' s talk about the center of the right
52:17
or the center of the left, which, after all, you are.
52:20
Although the Party socializes, for it has scurried a little further, the People
52:23
' s Party says well more to the right and right and the Socialist Party
52:30
also to the outrage. Then there' s a complexity. One has to
52:34
be done. I would say a political alchemy in all this. Political intelligence
52:39
is needed. But whether Christians or people against the Christian background in Protestant or
52:45
Catholic tents of deep Christian convictions for the good social coexistence of values and just
52:52
as it was after all the William Welvelford, who was a man look.
53:00
Moreover, what amazes me was some parenthesis of the man who, after thirty
53:05
years of fighting for the emancipation of the slaves, who got it almost about
53:08
to die, you really know what it was. He was a pietist.
53:15
It was curious that, being a politician of race, he was a pietist.
53:19
Man was God- fearing. He practiced prayer, reading the Bible and
53:22
then political documentation bron a very high- ranking man, but he reads his
53:29
story and was a very pious man William Wilverford can be one thing and the
53:34
other, of course think one thing the creator of him. The separation church
53:40
State is not the French Revolution, but the first real example. I am
53:45
not just talking about theorizing on the subject, but about putting it in place
53:50
in a state. It was in one of the United States, where Roger
53:52
Williams went. Roger Williams, who was a pastor, the first Baptist pastor
53:59
of the United States, William because he himself was the one who created the
54:05
first experiment of a United States State that today erred Island in the United States,
54:09
where he could become a citizen with all citizenship rights, with all political
54:15
rights, regardless of your religion. And there Muslims gathered together, Catholics gathered
54:21
together, non- believers of atheists gathered together, everyone gathered together in that
54:25
state because you could have full citizenship. It was the only state and that,
54:30
in the end, passed the Constitution to the American Constitution. Jefferson'
54:36
s model did not succeed, and others won Roger Williams' model. Thus,
54:39
in the 17th century, at the beginning of the 17th century, a
54:44
Protestant, a Protestant of deep spiritual convictions. It' s not because he
54:50
had no convictions, it' s because he had them while he was there.
54:52
He did not allow the indigenous people of the United States to be removed
54:57
from their land, but rather to be paid if you wanted to buy it.
55:00
He did not allow slavery to be established in that area of the United
55:06
States. There was no slavery, because he was keeping a Kingdom agenda and
55:10
we have to come back again, Christians, instead of thinking about the Gospel
55:15
agenda, on the agenda that little girl with which they can buy us for
55:20
four tough, immoral, indecent. They buy us for four tough guys and
55:24
we buy them the part with a fake speech, they don' t believe
55:30
they don' t even look. And it' s a wake- up
55:31
call for navigators. So is this thing we' re talking about. But,
55:34
for example, Oliver Crombel here, even if it is for the political
55:38
motivation of the absolutist monarch, but it is the cremen of democracy in Europe.
55:44
Paradoxically, the regulation above the king does look at you and then the
55:49
forerunners of democracy in Europe and, therefore, in the world. They only
55:54
protested Protestants, leaders meaning Protestants. It means that Luther himself good though he
56:01
did good, but in one with political nosotration, because he asked for that
56:05
jonia and such and such good, for it was his mentor who made him
56:08
acable. But for him to survive is not that there would be political notations,
56:15
for surely as there were with Constantine, religious syncretism. In one thing,
56:21
he thought he had a far- reaching political vision, but in the
56:25
early days he was positive. Then it' s institutionalized and the gender thing.
56:30
But like everything, like everything in life. But it means how important
56:35
it is to be clear and courageous. Imagine we' re in Parliament You
56:40
' re in Parliament talking the way you talk and the way we talk.
56:45
But, well, some would say good, because this one' s ultra.
56:49
They wouldn' t realize I wouldn' t, because it would be
56:52
a false accusation. But why, because we think of the concept of sacred
56:55
life and think that the theme or the theme trars, which is intractable.
57:01
In addition, there are already many, many sides of society that are saying,
57:07
even progressive, that it is a barbarity to do this promotion or the
57:12
dark believe here, even on terrace workshops, so that children have to know
57:15
if they are baby baby. That' s political manipulation. But wild doesn
57:22
' t mean anywhere in the world. It does not mean that it is
57:27
good for any to choose this, that there is some way out for this,
57:30
but to promote it is for States. This is an aggression against common
57:36
sense in general. But when talking about this school, but there are many
57:40
more things to talk about for good coexistence is the issues are very broad.
57:45
The Kingdom speaks of all subjects. The Kingdom doesn' t just talk about
57:50
abortion, it doesn' t just talk about the LGBT issue. Those are
57:52
issues of importance, but they are not the whole. And that' s
57:57
why I say that if we' re reductionists or we' re easy to
58:02
buy, because they give you the candy so that you settle for it and
58:06
then they put in the whole package that you don' t have to accept
58:07
for the whole package. There are things that are unacceptable to Christians and we
58:10
cannot go against the weak. We cannot go against it, but we have
58:15
the opposite We are in the current of generosity that has made Europe Europe.
58:21
How have we become Europe with what values? We have become the place in
58:25
the world where everyone wants to come. We have done so with values that
58:30
are totally different. If we renounce our values, we renounce our soul to
58:36
what has made us Europe, of course, we are increasingly a more petty
58:37
Europe, we are a Europe every time it is somehow no longer recognized,
58:44
we look in the mirror and we do not recognize Europe Today, of course,
58:47
we are giving way to things that in history have also given way to
58:52
this. We have given way to fascism, we have given way to Nazism
58:57
in Europe, we have given way to communism. All this was not born
59:00
in Europe. When we forget who we are, what our true roots are,
59:07
then we are moving into a lot of ghosts, a lot of monsters
59:09
that have been in movements, both fascism and the criminal communism of millions of
59:15
people, that is, good, Stalin and mous and toon millions of years
59:22
not only in their own country, even in Ukraine, that killed them with
59:27
hunger, amylons and in no good field, others in Cuba, that are
59:31
already desperate, that is going to burst somewhere or in any country, of
59:36
this system or fascism, of course it is a maximum violence. It says
59:43
good. Well, when there' s no law and if you hear it,
59:46
no, no, no. Now democracy. I see her at risk.
59:50
He saw her in danger all over the world. It is in a
59:53
very fragile moment, because the values that gave rise to it are those that
1:00:00
are being forgotten. This is the problem, that is, it is the
1:00:04
same thing that, to give an example, it is difficult to have consolidated
1:00:08
democracies in Muslim countries, because it is difficult to have them. The musulmars
1:00:13
are as smart as the non- musulmars. The problem is that there is
1:00:16
no ideological basis, there is no basis for democracy. And so it is
1:00:22
clear to us, the Europeans, that we have generated democracy from Greece to
1:00:28
here, because we have had an ideological basis that has given it a basis.
1:00:30
Now we' re losing him. As we are losing, it is
1:00:34
happening to us that our democracies are weakening and strange phenomena, populism, ultra,
1:00:40
etcetera, which are going to say, the monsters we are creating,
1:00:45
because our constitutive account. That which gave rise to us, those Kingdom policies
1:00:51
which gave rise to this Europe are being forgotten. When you take your livelihood
1:00:55
away, you take the foundation away, you fall into disrepute is Christianization of
1:01:00
Europe. Evidently, even billing us. And if Europe has what the political
1:01:07
capital it has now is because residually there are still the effects of Christianity,
1:01:14
of the affections of the reforms. Reform, too, is not an event,
1:01:21
but reform is a movement. Today we are in the first five hundred
1:01:25
years of reform, because it did not stop at that moment, but it
1:01:29
has come all the way here. That is why, in the most democratic
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countries of the world, those with the least corruption, the most equality,
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men, women and more democratic health are in Europe. Well even against the
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elvira rock varea, which is a detractor of Protestantism and which some and listened
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the other day to the director of reason, the marguena, speaking scornfully of
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Protestantism. We must see the results so they will prove fiasco and so equal
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and good and clear, it is obviously the fact that Spain has many complexities.
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The black soul of Spain is linked to many things, to the Borbónica
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brand and to the Habsburgs and other things and, moreover, to the black
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soul of the Catholic Church, an act more, although the Catholic Church now,
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evidently, is not the same. No, but there is one aspect
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that is that in Spain has always been persecuted to read the scriptures. It
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has never been allowed, just as in other places they gave the writing to
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the people, translated it and handed it over to them and from the writing
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of the people discovered a lot of things of those kingdom principles that have been
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affecting those countries. We haven' t had this influence because in Spain they
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told you you can' t translate the Bible. You have to read it
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in Latin why, because with that people didn' t have to agree to
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that even when they translated it. The question is, we' re going
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to translate it for you, but you have to read it under the Church
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' s magisterium. You have to understand it under the magisterium yourself. You
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can' t read it for yourself just because it' s gonna hurt you.
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It' s not true. It' s giving the Bible to the
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people. Of course that' s what the reform did. That is our
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soul and Martin Luther writes in the German coin, in the most basic German
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language, writes the first translation of the new Testament and then the first impression
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of the Wtenberg. It is the Bible that you mean, and the Bible
1:03:39
as expensive as you say, but give me an account of Christian Jewish culture.
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It has to be erased from the social imaginary. This is the attempt
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of all the factual powers Europe, especially because it is repressive, blaming,
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anachronistic annoying. But how have we come this far psalm, how have we
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come to the psalm? If yes, the psalm of pog let us cast
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off from us, his deliverances, no, but says the psalm says,
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but he who sits on the throne will laugh at them, because the last
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word does not have it. The Antichrist, nor the powers of Antichrist,
1:04:12
nor anything. The last word in history is the sovereign king of the kings
1:04:15
of the earth, who will triumph good over evil. It will definitely establish
1:04:21
an eternal and perfect kingdom, a new earth heavens, a new world,
1:04:27
where perfect righteousness will be installed. And that says to see this is the
1:04:30
great utopia. That' s God, that' s God, the god
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we' re after him, but we' re not going to bring her
1:04:38
in We' re going to bring her to God. Moreover, that is,
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we have to live today in the light of the future. But God
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brings it, that is, no one can avoid it. I don'
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t think I know. If some say that if we are provocateurs, there
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will be those who agree and agree and say, but had to be more
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settled others would say today, but how can they talk about it at this
1:04:58
point, in this more modern and progressive world, and these are some.
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I don' t know what to call. They can call us in every
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way, but we could talk about many more things, as well as things
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in sight from Bible groups, graduates, college Bible groups, since and I
1:05:24
loved the interview talking about this. But the other thing about the summons that
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is going to be in according to the USAN, I loved very much the
1:05:33
didactic form that you presented what is that international forum so that what importance it
1:05:40
is that we begin, lastly, that importance is fifty years after LAUSA,
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years since a thousand nine hundred seventy- four Lausanne, where, for the
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first time you begin to see which, what it takes to close the gap
1:05:56
that prevents all people in the world from having a chance to hear about God.
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This is the most basic universal right, for everyone to have a chance
1:06:06
to hear about a God who saves. And of course this is what the
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Osana movement seeks, bringing together five zero people, chosen one by one,
1:06:17
chosen by name, with age balance, with occupation balance, with gender balance,
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so that the whole church itself is represented and we can build together what
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is the desire of God, which the name of God has been known in
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all cultures. Proclaim the Year of the Jubilee exactly the Declaration of Nazareth of
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the Synagogue of Nazareth to move it to the 21st century. I believe that
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since you said very well that since a thousand in these last fifty years the
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Church has grown is infinitely more than in all previous centuries. Yes, yes,
1:07:00
it is true that there is a pseudo church to the word of Our
1:07:04
Lady speaks of a church that seems and is not. It is a mirage
1:07:08
that is left without the provision of oil, which is needed to keep the
1:07:13
lamp lit and half of biblical Christianity, true Christianity. But yet and with
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it are millions and millions of people who have come to true faith in Jesus
1:07:25
as their personal savior, their redeemer, recognizing their lack with God, that
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we are all missing, but God gives a new life project in Christ,
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and that I believe we will be about to accomplish. Matthew twenty- four
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fourteen are close. We had never imagined you when Jesus uttered those words and
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there were ethnicities all over the earth, to whom they never had the context
1:07:51
or know who Jesus is. But Jesus left us here and told us go
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through all the nations and make disciples and was born. It does not mean
1:08:01
so much geographical nations with borders. We' re meant to be ethnic.
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Jesus. The word in the Greek was Thetné Then, of course, every
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ethnic group. So that' s what' s happening. Fifty years ago,
1:08:17
we were very far away, but today we are much closer. And
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if we, Congress has recognized as some twenty- five gaps that we have
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to cover to get to the last of the intense earth. And if we
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agree, we begin to collaborate with each other intentionally from here, to two
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thousand and fifty, we can see a very significant breakthrough. I don'
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t know if we will have come from here by two thousand fifty to all
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signs, but we will be very close to there being Christians in all the
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ethnicities of the Earth WOW proclaiming the Gospel of eternal salvation in Christ Jesus,
1:08:54
and this is going to be very nice, very interesting, and GBG Groups
1:08:59
and this summer and these two last times you have in sight, because look
1:09:00
in summer we have the camp of what we call summer GVU, where university
1:09:08
students come together and also where we have a political formation camp for them to
1:09:14
sing this year. Then we open it and in three days it has been
1:09:17
filled and then we have on the weekend of that same camp that come the
1:09:20
young professionals, those called Transitio, which is a program that we have for
1:09:25
those who are in their first three years as professionals. So, and this
1:09:30
is our summer GVU, we are working on our concept, which is interesting,
1:09:34
because we like to work in transition times. The first time of transition
1:09:40
is when you leave your studies and add to the professional world. But there
1:09:44
are other great transitions when you finish the profession and retire, because we are
1:09:49
starting a project called restart, which restarts is how to accompany those who retire
1:09:55
to make retirement work. And I know you have Esther Martinez today. Yes,
1:10:02
and Esther Martínez is a part, she is one of those who is
1:10:05
part of the group that is carrying out Reinicia, precisely because she is a
1:10:12
very concerned person with the whole issue of that transition to retirement. We also
1:10:17
have to think in December next, that we have the national meeting of GVG,
1:10:24
that this year will be very special in cullera as well and we recommend
1:10:28
it to you the Christian professional and personal relations Pablo Martínez, Esteban Figuerido,
1:10:33
Liria, Martín, Danny Requena Esther Martínez, so that she will also be
1:10:40
present in GVG the days of the five to eight of December of two thousand
1:10:45
twenty- four, in whose valence or opportunity. How beautiful he hears and
1:10:50
what a woman Ther Partínez is of fantastic. She' s so multifaceted in
1:10:57
so many subjects and so wise. She' s very wise, well,
1:11:00
a very well- kept, very prepared woman. I' m here because
1:11:04
I' m with him. I' m sending a message right now,
1:11:10
we' re, we' ve got it now shortly, right now.
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Yeah, hey, well, the truth is, jama. Thank you for
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accompanying us as always here live live, in the study and for these reflections
1:11:19
open to heart, open almost eh and with the best of the intentions to
1:11:29
establish bridges, to also seek to unstain a little this social irritation that is
1:11:35
so strong and to calm the moods, bringing a little bit of the forgiveness
1:11:41
of the Kingdom, that enormous forgiveness that we have received and that we distribute.
1:11:45
The word of God says that it is they who seek peace, the
1:11:50
peacemakers, the children of God. In that sense, we want to be
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the peacemakers who are called children of God. Yes, well, my friend,
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may God bless you and we' ll see each other for sure.
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Well true, Yes, what importance and joy to be able to be on
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the fifty anniversary of that movement that has been giving such a great impulse to
1:12:17
the Church of God in the world, for until soon, until soon you
1:12:21
know it wants thanks to Omas or the train of life. Lies say they
1:13:06
' ll never change your hills and failure. You will define, but forget
1:13:20
me that your grace to save there is no place you can' t give
1:13:30
you You' ve rescued me without weighing your story. The god of opportunity
1:13:43
has not finished, never will leave you, no matter when you have fallen
1:13:54
his arms spread out, the god of opportunity, never leave you You do
1:14:05
not have to pay what he called with his bloodthirsty sin found the otu oh
1:14:20
a saladon in the light, the wolf mor or in his has not vovered
1:14:29
me ay saludoso or wrapped it to cen heavy historian has not finished the pleasure
1:14:45
of opportunity, I have never left, no matter when you have fallen his
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brazras scrimiros opportunida and never leave you no tea do not let you fly to
1:15:13
not vote where you get or do not make you embroidered as a speaker and
1:15:27
is right of the truth. You' re his macado son. So you
1:15:36
are his commanding son, and I am not your beloved son. No matter
1:15:56
where it started, the godliness of opportunity is not over. I' d
1:16:08
never leave you, no matter how much it' s embered. This guy
1:16:17
says opportunity never doesn' t care, you don' t care or you
1:16:40
don' t. You don' t leave, it doesn' t matter
1:16:46
where he is. You don' t leave, you don' t walk
1:16:56
away, no matter what you do walking down the bike lane. Like you
1:16:58
don' t have a sidewalk. More people are encouraged to ride a bicycle
1:17:00
to move around the city. So, in many places where there was only
1:17:05
sidewalk before, there is now also bike lane. All drivers, cyclists,
1:17:12
bikers and pedestrians share the street in the city. If we respect each other.
1:17:17
There' s room for everyone. Directorate- General for Traffic, Ministry
1:17:21
of the Interior, Government of Spain. They will see in the ultrasound signs
1:17:27
in the effect that after birth they may have problems of integration or difficulties in
1:17:31
exercising professions of responsibility and even situations in which their physical integrity or life is
1:17:36
endangered. But what' s it about, doctor, you' re gonna
1:17:40
have a little girl. Discrimination against women in society results in abuse, injustice
1:17:43
and ill- treatment. Don' t let him. They' re coming
1:17:45
in. Act with Amnesty Org Amnesty International. The train of life a n
1:17:58
o n o n s or exciting by the routes of the heart, an
1:18:03
unforgettable journey at train pace or. Ladies and gentlemen, we are here in
1:19:02
good company and it is a pleasure to hear voices I would say authorized,
1:19:10
because you know what you talk about when we talk about how we just talked
1:19:15
about other issues of today, with a vision of what we have to have,
1:19:21
a worldview of what is happening around us. But also when we talk
1:19:26
about issues that affect us very much today' s life, the rush,
1:19:31
everything is. There' s social stress. In fact, it is one
1:19:36
of the most important causes of casualties and work axentism, the stress that results
1:19:45
in the worst cases of anxiety, depression and more pathologies. But for that
1:19:54
we don' t know well. We know this way above, but someone
1:19:57
has to explain to us what the topic is about, how it fights stress,
1:20:02
because the professor of the University also Esther Martínez Vera, but psychologist already
1:20:09
of pro for many years, not only with own consultation, already very recognized,
1:20:15
writer of magnificent books, by the way, but also she is lecturer
1:20:21
for the pastors, for us to deal with pastoral issues that we have not
1:20:28
known at all how to manage them if she has given us master classes and
1:20:32
lectures and conferences. And so it' s a pleasure to have her here
1:20:38
today telling us about her next publication, which has to do with the topic
1:20:41
of stress. How to fight stress. Good morning, Esther, very good
1:20:46
morning. I' m delighted to be with you. It' s really
1:20:49
a pleasure. Thank you, Esther. Okay. The issue of stress is
1:20:55
that they are on the order of the day that has stuck as one for
1:21:00
us. We don' t know how to get rid of him in major.
1:21:03
There are different levels of stress, but there are some since they are,
1:21:08
they are already really insane. No yes, there is even a good
1:21:14
stress, I mean, there is a stress that we can call positive stress
1:21:18
and in psychology we call it eu stress okay, that is, not everything
1:21:26
is bad, but it is true that in recent years it has become one
1:21:30
of the worst psychological pathologies, because, as you mentioned very well, it
1:21:39
is cause of other pathologies or other psipopatologys that can lead us to work absenteeism
1:21:45
or school or even paralyze us. So, I think there' s a
1:21:51
lot of ignorance as to exactly what this is, because sometimes we confuse it
1:21:56
with anxiety or we' ll confuse it with depression and it' s quite
1:22:02
different. If you want to start defining yes. Yes, please, stress
1:22:06
would be all those pardons. Stress would be all those pressures that at some
1:22:17
point enter our thinking, but that do not stay there, that after thought,
1:22:24
pass to the body and from there begins a symptomatology that is the one
1:22:30
that already takes us the anxiety to differentiate it a little bit. We would
1:22:35
say that stress is when multiple thoughts come about about life pressures, the children
1:22:42
of work. The money didn' t reach the end of the month to
1:22:46
my body, the weight. Any concern that comes to our mind can be
1:22:54
cause for stress. The problem is that the brain is very his and the
1:23:00
brain when we have any of these concerns right away, he understands that we
1:23:06
are in danger. And the most important thing I' m going to say
1:23:11
in this little while that we have the brain doesn' t distinguish whether the
1:23:16
concern is real or not. The brain simply takes care, makes it its
1:23:21
own, and then comes to give us an emotion. That emotion is the
1:23:29
one that will warn our body that we are supposedly in danger. Now,
1:23:34
I repeat, it may be that we are in real danger and then we
1:23:41
have to take care, not worry, that it is a real danger,
1:23:45
but it may also be a futuristic issue or even an imaginary issue. Imagine
1:23:51
that I' m very worried because I don' t know what can happen
1:23:58
to a grandson in the brain. It takes it as reality and actuality.
1:24:03
But imagine how little we know and what we have to say the Bible was
1:24:09
right, because Jesus himself said do not worry. The sofa is enough today,
1:24:18
because anything from the past, from the press or from the future is
1:24:25
going to make us feel preoccupied, worried, especially the future. Worried,
1:24:30
the past blames and those two things lead us to live very stressed, worried.
1:24:38
We have to put eight hundred thousand things in twenty- four hours.
1:24:42
Right. A lady was telling me the other day. I think someone has
1:24:45
changed the time, because our grandparents had the same 24 hours and they could
1:24:50
sit in the sun or talk at the door and we have no time left
1:24:56
for anything. Therefore, stress would be any factor that worried us, be
1:25:01
present, past, future. And most importantly, the brain won' t
1:25:10
distinguish, it will always take it as if it were today. Then it
1:25:15
will give us the emotion that that is going to happen to the body and
1:25:19
from there we will be talking about anxiety. Okay how interesting that is the
1:25:26
stress process circuit, because it means that stress is a psychosomatic experience, right,
1:25:33
because it starts with the mind and then it starts to somatize and we
1:25:39
have effects on the body when the star is a little untied. True yes,
1:25:45
look, we have four, four issues that can lead us to take
1:25:53
the leap to the generalized anxiety that we already have all the somatizations in agreement
1:25:59
there. We start out of excessive concern for anything, and I repeat what
1:26:06
a patient is all about. He recently came and started telling me I'
1:26:12
m very worried about my daughter. I don' t understand how the times
1:26:15
are true today, not only concerned, but very concerned about the Vale children
1:26:20
and about the daughter and if they get drugs and if they have a sexual
1:26:26
abuse and after a while. I' m asking you, but you have
1:26:30
your daughter, and she tells me five years. Okay. The woman was
1:26:34
right, but her brain was living it as if the daughter was old enough
1:26:40
for all that to happen. Then what happens to the brain. When we
1:26:45
had the worry, when we have a second thing, which is pessimism,
1:26:50
when we have fears, when we have a series of things that disturb our
1:26:57
brains, understand that we are in danger and give us an emotion. Then
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let' s put it in parts of the brain. The first part is
1:27:05
lived in the frontal or prefrontal cortex. There we live negative thoughts, worries,
1:27:14
fears. But that area of the brain immediately alerts another area of the
1:27:20
brain called the limbic system. And in the limic system is where the emotion
1:27:26
appears. Once we have the emotion in one sense, we have missed the
1:27:32
train so that it does not pass to the body. As soon as we
1:27:38
live the emotion, imagine any concern, any concern that gives us fear pessimism.
1:27:45
Immediately take control of the Libyan system. What emotion are we going to
1:27:49
have? We' re going to be in distress, we' re going
1:27:54
to be more afraid. We' re going to have any negative emotion and
1:27:59
from there, the body already takes over. From there we have missed the
1:28:03
train to stop who takes over, because look from the emotion, the whole
1:28:11
chain in doctrine is affected until we reach some small glands that we have above
1:28:19
our kidneys, which are called adrenal capsules. Those will be the ones that
1:28:29
will give the chemistry reciprocating that stress that started in the Cortex. What chemistry,
1:28:36
then, will give us a voice, will give us adrenaline and will
1:28:42
give us a tison. These two that happen in our bloodstream are gonna make
1:28:48
us somatic. That' s where the troubles start. How interesting to know
1:28:58
a little, to know ourselves about things like stress and because we talked in
1:29:03
a moment about how to anticipate situations of stress that can be chronicled, because
1:29:11
one of the things I remember clearly and there are trades that are very prone
1:29:15
to stress and ours is one of them. Uh, I remember Esther that
1:29:23
you' ve given us talks about this to pastors and other issues that have
1:29:27
helped us a lot, a lot, a lot because of the issue of
1:29:30
taking care of yourself and so many other things not, but, for example,
1:29:33
scenic fear. I remember there was a time a few years ago that
1:29:38
I had gora, phobia. Fear is when we are people, we have
1:29:42
public, we have to talk or anyone in business or teaching or whatever.
1:29:48
And that' s that stress cause that' s already triggered and I don
1:29:55
' t know and you can' t solve it that easily. You have
1:29:58
to submit to a process I really explain, look you said it very well.
1:30:03
Any fear, any stage panic, anything. You worry, you think,
1:30:10
I' m going to faint, I' m not going to be
1:30:14
able to speak the negative thought you want immediately. That thought that we have
1:30:16
in the front cut becomes emotion in the flax system anguish, anguish. There
1:30:25
I said, we miss the train and pass our adrenals. It' s
1:30:29
two little capsulites. These give us two chemicals and I' ll explain them
1:30:33
to you so you can see how we counter them later. The two chemicals
1:30:36
are, I said, adrenaline and cortisol. Adrenaline gives us our body so
1:30:43
that we can fight or run away against what is supposedly a danger. Then
1:30:50
the body overactivates us. Or overactive the body. It gives us taquita ardia,
1:30:56
it gives us sweating and you are there on the bench that you have
1:30:59
to go up to the stand, preach or give a lecture and we have
1:31:06
the aogola, the heart rhythm suffocated, the sweating is worth. All that
1:31:12
is the fruit of the adrenaline that gives it to you so that you can
1:31:15
run away. But if you don' t run away, you' re
1:31:19
gonna have to put up with it. Okay, you' re gonna have
1:31:21
to put up with him. What happens that our day to day are not
1:31:26
punctual things, but that we go from stress to stress and shooting because it
1:31:30
touches me. We get up in the morning. We get a worry about
1:31:35
adrenaline after two hours at seven o' clock in the afternoon. You have
1:31:39
to give an adrenaline conference. What happens that we' re accumulating it and
1:31:46
we' re accumulating somatizations. You go to the doctor and he says,
1:31:49
you tell you, I have tachycardia, I have cordial pressure, I have
1:31:54
diarrhea its duration. You have anxiety, it' s true, because I
1:31:57
am. It' s already passed to the body. So, it'
1:31:59
s already ansio. But when he spends some time with that adrenaline on and
1:32:03
we all go on the same train, the cortisol appears and the cortisol lowers
1:32:10
our defenses and exhausts us. And if we don' t stop worrying,
1:32:16
distressing, now we' ll live with hyperactivated adrenaline and cortisol, with defenses
1:32:24
on the subway. And not only that, but with tremendous fatigue. We
1:32:30
are already in a generalized anxiety, that is, in a sense the metamorphose
1:32:36
stress towards anxiety. This is your question as to how it works, because
1:32:43
we can fight it on two paths. The first would be by way of
1:32:48
thought, heeding Bible instructions. Both the apostle Paul and the apostle Peter are
1:32:57
taxative. The apostle Paul will say finally think four from verse six. You
1:33:02
' re not worried about anything. I told you. If you start worrying,
1:33:10
it will pass your limbic system as emotion of emotion. There is a
1:33:15
step to chemistry, because pay it in thought. If we couldn' t
1:33:23
do it, I know it' s very difficult, but if we couldn
1:33:26
' t do it, I wouldn' t send it to us. Sir,
1:33:30
instead, he tells us nothing is carefree. The Bible is full of
1:33:33
busy but not concerned. We have to say this is a concern that gives
1:33:41
me fear and anguish. I have to pay you to stop and turn and
1:33:48
if I get dizzy and if I don' t know how to say it
1:33:55
as if, as if I could, because the lord is with me Philippians
1:34:00
four, thirteen, I can do everything in Christ that strengthens me, but
1:34:06
we remain in Philippians four in six for nothing you are concerned. Point two
1:34:10
let your petitions be known in prayer. That' s what you' re
1:34:15
worried about. Take it to the Lord in prayer, but leave it there
1:34:21
we are so I don' t know what qualification put but we are,
1:34:27
we believe so little, and that the Lord will do with his power something
1:34:31
in us that when we just asked for something that worries us, we get
1:34:39
up and take it back because we confuse not worrying with irresponsibility. That'
1:34:45
s a gacfal failure because what makes us responsible is to take care of ourselves.
1:34:53
But don' t worry, then how we beat him up. We
1:34:57
are in front of one going out to give a preaching. It doesn'
1:35:02
t start breathing in the abdomen for anything. I' m calm and I
1:35:09
' m thinking that the Lord is going to give me the same as he
1:35:12
is, because he' s going to be by my side. I mean,
1:35:13
what I' m telling you is get ready over here, by the
1:35:16
way of the brain. The first thing is that this concern must be left
1:35:23
in the arms of the Lord. But there' s another third step.
1:35:27
He says gratefully. Thank you is a vaccine for anxiety. It takes away
1:35:34
our bitterness. It takes the anxiety away from us. We have to be
1:35:38
grateful, sir, thank you, because I' m here and I can
1:35:43
live with him as I do, because you' re going to help me.
1:35:45
But there' s another way I don' t want to leave.
1:35:47
This is the way of thought. And I do not want to leave the
1:35:53
first apostle Peter of Peter five seven, casting all your anxiety upon him,
1:36:00
because the uncle takes care of you. But I' m going to go
1:36:02
to another way, which is a more organic way, more of the body.
1:36:08
How can I make that all that has already escaped me and gone adrenaline
1:36:12
and cortisol to go down, because there are many mechanisms, many and I
1:36:18
will tell you a few for people to keep and embrace and use them every
1:36:24
day. The first mechanism already explained to you, the brain that you have
1:36:31
to obey the divine laws for nothing is difficult, but we can in a
1:36:38
sense, get used to taking the reins. You' re the boss of
1:36:42
your command, I' m going to send without anguish. But the second
1:36:45
thing is raising another hormone that, like what I told you about adrenaline and
1:36:53
cortisol, comes as soon as you start with the nervous system touched and in
1:37:00
the sympathetic neor deso system comes the derenaline the cortisus. But there' s
1:37:05
one way that we can help lower those hormanas and it' s mostly through
1:37:12
another hormone that we can manage. The hormone is called oxytocin. Oxytocin and
1:37:20
I have been working for years because when I finished psychology, I thought the
1:37:27
body is the recipient of any emotion and I have been researching this subject that
1:37:31
is now well known. But oxytocin is a hormone called skin hormone. It
1:37:39
' s mom' s hormone when she gives birth. It' s the
1:37:43
mom' s hormone when breastfeeding her child raises this hormone and lowers, that
1:37:48
is, more oxytocin, less stress hormones. If we are able to raise
1:37:56
that chemistry, our three will defend from because it descends on all cortisol.
1:38:02
Then I tell you things to raise oxytocin. I guess we' re going
1:38:08
really bad in time, but let me list them for you. It'
1:38:11
s worth how long you have. Not the one you need is good,
1:38:14
because I' m going to give you a few recommendations. Train place hugs
1:38:18
and caresses. That raises oxidation. You want to prevent? That' s
1:38:28
what you want to prevent stress from turning into anxiety, hugging the dog a
1:38:33
lot, that is, animals, people. In that we are quite good,
1:38:40
evangelical Christians, because our churches are full of hugs and we have to
1:38:45
do them and they are free also, and they are graces. During the
1:38:50
pandemic, that was terrible. Then we had an avalanche of problems, of
1:38:58
stress, of anxiety because we had given each other our elbow, which was
1:39:01
already terrible. I said don' t give me your elbow, please give
1:39:03
me something. That is to say, we must return to hugs, embrace
1:39:09
our husbands, embrace our wives, embrace our children, our grandchildren. And
1:39:15
experts say it' s got to be eight minutes hugs, eight minutes,
1:39:19
eight minutes, no forgiveness eight seconds eight, eight seconds that we consciously hug
1:39:27
each other. I' m hugging a person It' s worth the caresses
1:39:36
Look at the caresses They' re not what you said They' re free.
1:39:39
What it costs us if we go down the street and grab our wife
1:39:44
by the arm or put the arm on the back, the tenderness of the
1:39:49
husband raises the oxytocin on the wife. This is another subject that does not
1:39:53
touch now, but any caress, but also verbal caresses. I said the
1:40:00
other day in a lecture the simple look at us with friendly complicity, not
1:40:10
the being medicine for another person with our attentive gaze or our words. Words
1:40:15
can kill or give life, and we are medical people when we use our
1:40:23
words for good hugs, caresses, words spend time with loved ones quijares that
1:40:32
the phrase we say the most today is do not tempt, I do not
1:40:39
have time, we meet to make a coffee. I don' t have
1:40:43
time, or, well, we did meet to make a coffee that would
1:40:45
make it look like a coffee ever. We don' t have time on
1:40:49
our agendas to sit in a cafeteria with another person without having the motive that
1:40:57
' s crushing our lives and looking at us and being calm and enjoying the
1:41:03
sun. That thing that seems so simple, it' s going to kill
1:41:08
us. Another thing that raises oxytocin is physical exercise. Thirty minutes each day
1:41:15
of physical exercise do the miracle of counteracting stress hormones. Now what' s
1:41:23
wrong with us. We don' t have time. The other day a
1:41:25
lady told me I' m going to delete myself from the gym, because
1:41:29
I pay for gym without ever going well, because walking out for a run
1:41:36
and if you go out with something of nature, around you better, because
1:41:43
the trees also give some phytochemicals that will help us. I' m finishing
1:41:47
up a very important thing. Meditation produces oxytocin and, of course, the
1:42:00
word meditation and immediately we are all alerted, but it is that the evangelical
1:42:06
people were a people of meditation. In the word we have written a little
1:42:15
booklet that is entitled not all meditations are the same, which I recommend and
1:42:23
there we are saying. But what need we have to go to other meditations
1:42:29
when we have the meditation of the creator or the creator of the universe.
1:42:34
Of course we can meditate on creation, but we can meditate on the word
1:42:42
and we will get oxytocin up. Any other meditation too, but we don
1:42:47
' t have it. We have a crime, because we can meditate on
1:42:53
the word of the Lord and in addition to growing spiritually, it will not
1:42:58
rise to oxytocin. If we do it in the middle, our breathing raises
1:43:02
oxytocin. When we' re about to go up to a little pulpit,
1:43:10
let' s breathe in the abdomen. You know I used to, when
1:43:13
I had to have a pulpit and there was a time of previous praise,
1:43:20
I didn' t sing until I understood that when I sang I breathed well
1:43:27
and it lowered my cortisol. Then let' s wash the lord because why
1:43:31
do you fall down oh my soul wait on God, because I still idea
1:43:36
to lower praise, not on oxidation. We get cytokine on shared meals,
1:43:43
we get oxytocin on taking care of others, that is, I' ve
1:43:48
already said a lot of things. Therefore, if you have made a list,
1:43:51
think that we can do something for ourselves so that this pandemic of stress
1:43:59
is reduced, and we can do it for two days, mentally, obeying
1:44:03
the Lord and physically, taking care of ourselves and our interpersonal relationships. WOW.
1:44:15
I take note of a lot of things you said there because they'
1:44:20
re thinking oxytocin, see their cortisol. Because yes, sir, yes,
1:44:27
sir, yes, sir, you said it perfect. The book I'
1:44:30
m writing isn' t so much about stress. It' s included,
1:44:33
but it' s the brain and how it' s going to process all
1:44:39
of this our brain and there' s going to be everything I' ve
1:44:41
explained a little bit wider. But yes, Mr A, more oxytocin,
1:44:45
less for you are yes how interesting and how many things, uh, and
1:44:50
notice what you have said, things that are within our reach, that are
1:44:55
rewarding, that are simple, but that are so powerful, powerful each of
1:45:01
them, and that we improve ourselves and improve our environment, our relationships with
1:45:08
others and with ourselves. And that' s good, look. When you
1:45:14
said one of the texts, I say it because the practical, this section
1:45:17
of the subject of meditation, I liked very well everything you have told.
1:45:20
But the subject of nadisophanesos I discovered something and surely you too, as a
1:45:28
psychologist, because a study has been made about this general and that was published
1:45:32
a few years ago in many media. On the subject of prayer, I
1:45:38
have first discovered that all your petitions are well known before God. I have
1:45:45
listened to prayers when I do it in practice, I do it every day
1:45:50
because I like it and I need it, and I release so many things
1:45:57
at that time. I release so many things from my life, my mind
1:46:02
and my soul and my body. I believe everything in prayer I have discovered
1:46:08
that by praying I free myself from anxiety, I free myself from stress.
1:46:13
Well, you' re free because you generate oxytocin, of course, and
1:46:17
this, obviously, the Holy Spirit knew, because it' s our creator,
1:46:21
but the apostle Paul wasn' t going to say there. You'
1:46:24
ll get rid of the profi sun with oxytocin. I wouldn' t have
1:46:27
understood anything, but of course, of course, then, but now we
1:46:31
can know that the Bible is right. Yeah, yeah, that family'
1:46:34
s right. And science. The only thing he does when I was psychology
1:46:41
back there in prehistory, every time for me was how big he is?
1:46:45
How big is he? How great God, who has created this brain that
1:46:50
has these abilities that most of us do not yet know how they work.
1:46:56
How can we not believe in a created God? That' s when we
1:47:02
' ll have that publication at our fingertips. It usually takes a few months.
1:47:09
I don' t know, I can' t say, because if
1:47:15
I spent all the time, I' d probably be. But now I
1:47:17
have to see if in the two months of summer I can give him a
1:47:20
push. Wow, well, we expect it, not with anxiety, but
1:47:30
eagerly giving all the anxiety, not with cortí sun, but with oxyto.
1:47:33
Yeah, listen to what' s interesting. Thank you, because they are
1:47:41
things that are so practical, so suggestive, so necessary in such a fast
1:47:45
world. It' s just that everything' s in a thousand an hour,
1:47:49
all over the world and by land and sea and air, and then
1:47:57
I' ve told you a lot of things in a hurry. Yeah,
1:47:58
' cause now out of ten lectures you can ask me for eight are stress.
1:48:03
Yeah, so today I didn' t want this program, which is
1:48:09
short, to give you some tools. That is why I have spoken very
1:48:13
well in prison, but it is possible to break down a great deal,
1:48:17
to think of every one of the things I have said to you and to
1:48:24
expand them in the local church and to make our members that the Lord says
1:48:28
that we rest, that the Lord says that we have a Sabbath, that
1:48:30
on that Sabbath we go to the field, that it is for the Lord
1:48:35
that we are praising, not stopping meeting in the field. We don'
1:48:36
t meet, we don' t stop meeting, but then we can go
1:48:40
to rest. Yes, yes, well, it' s good, but
1:48:43
it' s a good thing to say the thing has a lot one day,
1:48:46
that is, we' re going to enjoy it more thoroughly, surely
1:48:49
with the book in hand that develops each section, because this Martinez will see
1:48:59
psychologist, writer, lecturer and also thank you very much for your public appearance
1:49:01
on the train of life. Thank you very much, for it has been
1:49:06
an immense pleasure and I hope that I have not burdened you with the multitude
1:49:12
of things in a short time, but as you can run away again I
1:49:16
imagine yes, then you hear it calmer and you are thinking what I have
1:49:21
to change so that my stress does not turn into anxiety and pass to me
1:49:24
leather. Not only is it not an distress, but it is a release
1:49:30
from stress, listening to guidelines to follow to free ourselves and fight stress.
1:49:34
Thank you, don' t spare the hugs. I loved this, this
1:49:40
is that it is and is very much in the DNA of the Christian Community.
1:49:45
My husband. The thing is, he takes it seriously and hugs me.
1:49:48
He tells me one, two, three, three, three, I
1:49:51
don' t get an eight. That was a very affectionate hug. Goodbye
1:49:58
This day is always from Chao on the train of life life life hello.
1:50:31
Friends, it' s Julio Perez. You know that I am the director
1:50:40
of the radio program Magaxing Weekly, the train of life, and it does
1:50:46
nothing less than thirty- two years that we travel through many human landscapes and
1:50:51
many curiosities and things of life, of earthly life and of heavenly life.
1:50:58
I also have the joy of telling you that I have published my book,
1:51:04
a book that has to do with the train of life. There are fifty
1:51:11
selected articles written by me. There are six seasons and in each season there
1:51:17
is a section of eight reflections, temporary reflections for an eternal destiny. These
1:51:25
are the things I tell in this book. They are perceptions, analysis,
1:51:31
experiences, comments that other curiosity also in those fifty reflections in those six stations,
1:51:41
until we reach the term station that there is also a section, a
1:51:45
very important block. This book can already be found on Amazon on the editorial
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platform of Amazón. Traveling on the train of life is called the book.
1:51:56
It' s the title of the book Traveling on the Train of Life.
1:52:01
Julio Pérez, a server is the author. Then there you can well know
1:52:08
that the train tells us about trips, trips through life. Life is a
1:52:13
kind of living parable, like a running train, that there are so many
1:52:17
sensations and so many experiences inside the train and what we are seeing inside and
1:52:24
what we see from the train out. Well, that' s where I
1:52:30
propose you have access to this book. Looking at this book has done so
1:52:31
with great affection. I think there are things that are very warm, very
1:52:34
very intimate and others not so intimate, are very open, but it is
1:52:42
a book that I have done from the heart and with the heart traveling on
1:52:46
the train of life. It is the title of a Julio Pérez server on
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Amazon' s editorial platform. You can find him. The book has a
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cost of fifteen euros in about 180 pages and everything collected from that book is
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invested, reinvested in the radio project of wave Pazo Napu and in the train
1:53:11
of life. Of course it is part of the project is for this to
1:53:15
be put on and kept going as long as it never stops So, I
1:53:20
remind you and I thank you in advance for buying my book on Amazon'
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s platform traveling on a server' s life train, Julio Pérez. Thank
1:53:32
you for always you travel on the train of life. Well, then,
1:54:02
with your permission from Doctor Rocca, you' ve wanted Julio, how are
1:54:04
you? Well, thank God. Here thinking of the pain involved in joint
1:54:12
pains, which are sometimes detectable, but sometimes undetectable. There are some who
1:54:18
know where they are, but others who are there wrapped in tendons, muscles,
1:54:24
nerves, truth, the army of the apparatus. Let' s say
1:54:30
what is the set of bones, joints, ligaments, pendones, all that
1:54:38
muscle structure, because you can have a lot of diseases, a lot of
1:54:43
different causes. Some of them treatable and with good results can be solved,
1:54:49
others of them very complicated, and some of them, therefore, that border
1:54:54
on the exasperation of doctors and patients because of the great difficulty that it has,
1:54:59
therefore, to control that symptom, that is the pain and that is
1:55:03
so annoying for the patient and that many times, because it is the work
1:55:11
of the doctors, the relief is pained our patients, because it is very
1:55:16
incapacitating. Of course, for example, there are sensitive differences, for example,
1:55:23
osteoarthritis, which is a chronic disease for many people of articular cartilage generative,
1:55:28
which is not necessarily associated with inflammation. Right. You said it.
1:55:34
Look at that. The Greek term to cao, to enosis, to tosis,
1:55:39
is a regeneration. It is the process to which a joint evolves either
1:55:48
by wear or by trauma, or because there has previously been some kind of
1:55:54
inflammatory process that he has destroyed. And then there' s a divided vitality
1:56:00
of the articular, the articular cartilage. Let' s say it' s
1:56:05
the smooth part, the sliding part, a part that' s located in
1:56:10
a liquid that' s like a liquid oil and a bridal. And when
1:56:12
this cartilage is destroyed, sometimes because it goes cluttering, it goes piercing,
1:56:16
it is destroyed, then the crew what makes rub bone with bone, already
1:56:21
without protection, without the oily sliding area, and that causes great pain to
1:56:28
the patients. Then that too can affect any joint. But the more weight
1:56:35
that joint supports, the easier it will be to wear out. That'
1:56:42
s why we' re going to see higher levels of osteoarthritis in the knees,
1:56:46
hips, lumbar region, cervical region, which we also mobilize a lot
1:56:51
in the head. We are constantly moving it, because all these joints are
1:56:57
going to be more prone to this articular degeneration and, therefore, this type
1:57:01
of problem that is age- specific will appear. I' d tell you
1:57:09
life socks, advanced stockings, and that' s good, because many times
1:57:15
some doctors call this type of patient affectionately the patient will voltarén tomo. We
1:57:23
can do more for the poor than help him, relieve him if you are
1:57:29
over- prisoned, improve his weight, if there is any alteration of the
1:57:35
alignment of the joints, especially in legs, because try to try in lime
1:57:41
or columns, try to align as much as possible, with different tricks,
1:57:47
with different exercises, with different rehabilitations, as far as possible. But I
1:57:49
always tell my patients that arthros is the one to start treating her in childhood.
1:57:54
And when I tell you this it gets and how it can be,
1:57:57
because you do have to check the children, the teenagers, especially when we
1:58:02
enter that phase of ponce twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years, that
1:58:06
you know that there are boys and girls, because we do the typical stiron,
1:58:13
because we try to make the joints the most aligned. Hence we do
1:58:15
have a whole range of medical methods to improve. If not correct 100%
1:58:20
correct as much as possible. We use different methods that we' re doing
1:58:28
right now. We are doing a preventive medicine, because that patient at that
1:58:31
time probably does not see the benefit, but he will have it after the
1:58:38
years, because when I say a mature age, because if he has his
1:58:41
bones more aligned, his joints work better controls his weight, which is he
1:58:45
knows is a problem that is increasing day by day in our country, because
1:58:49
the patient will have less suffering and, therefore, will have Christmas of better
1:58:54
quality, which is what can be done in those cases. Sure, then
1:58:59
there' s one. Artsis is a very similar thing, but arthritis,
1:59:02
on the other hand, involves inflammation, pain, stiffness or deformity of our
1:59:08
joints, of one or several. In many cases, and this is one
1:59:15
of the causes of more than fifty percent of job losses in the country.
1:59:20
So it' s also an important cause. Arthritis, if you look at
1:59:26
it here, we make it look like it' s an itis. If
1:59:29
the word itis, then it is inflammation, not nesting and you oti and
1:59:34
treble hoarding is worth all these are inflammations. Then the inflammation is because it
1:59:41
occurs. Well, it doesn' t happen for different reasons. It can
1:59:45
be viral, it can be bacterial, it can be trauma, it can
1:59:53
be generative, it can be because of an inflammatory disease that has to do
2:00:00
with the genetics or autoimmune process that the organism itself attacks its own structures and
2:00:08
generates these inflammations and, therefore, it is a tremendous problem. Some of
2:00:13
them have their own name, like the rheumatous crisis idea, which, therefore,
2:00:17
is an entity that has that name, because there is a knowledge behind
2:00:25
that guides us to the diagnosis and is also oriented to the tract. It
2:00:30
is also true that there are painful processes that are neither itis niosis. That
2:00:33
is, there are some processes such as legeper descalvet disease, which is a
2:00:40
vascular disease that occurs in childhood, in the hips and can be very invalid
2:00:45
and will also be accused with pain. Even this is tremendous, because if
2:00:53
you don' t get time and sometimes still doing the right thing, treatments
2:00:57
don' t always work. Unfortunately, that is the patient can be left
2:01:00
with a dysplacia or a deformity or a major alteration of the boiler circulation,
2:01:09
so in inflammatory ends. Dear July, because we have a whole lot,
2:01:15
some of them nonspecific, some of them transitory, without more importance than with
2:01:20
the simple anti- clamatory, conventional or alternative treatment we can solve the process
2:01:30
and sometimes not, other times the patient after we have to submit to treatments
2:01:38
unfortunately, very aggressive. Sure, well, let' s stop at the
2:01:42
pain issue. But one last pathology that in recent years was nonspecific, did
2:01:51
not have a definite description, but now more or less has it, which
2:01:56
is fibromyalgia. It' s also one of polyar tritis. I' d
2:02:05
say in the human body. What about fibromyergy? Well, look at the
2:02:12
phyguromagia. You used to give the truth, corroborated it that it attacks the
2:02:15
female sex more than the male. And you know, generally speaking, the
2:02:20
woman is more sensitive. She accepted the joke that as God did, then
2:02:27
made her better that, but she is more sensitive to why, her emotionality,
2:02:34
her sedentrability. And you know that within the women' s group,
2:02:39
I mean, there' s a certain percentage that has a sensitivity that I
2:02:44
' d say extreme. That' s the way it is. That'
2:02:46
s given by nature, by genetics. You don' t say that.
2:02:50
Everyone' s the way it' s worth it. There is extreme sensitivity
2:02:56
of some people, the most beautiful women, but care not exclusively. There
2:03:00
are also where I get my villager perceive the pain more intensely, so that
2:03:06
what for another could be mild moderate pain for already can be intense pain,
2:03:12
very intense. That, to begin with, in a certain percentage of these
2:03:19
people who seem to throw myarcy, we can find a cause of having previously
2:03:26
had a viral infection. This, then, seems to be clarifying that this
2:03:30
prior bilic infection can leave this sequelae that kind of sensitivity. But anyway,
2:03:38
these poor people have a real ordeal, because it' s not something that
2:03:44
you' re going to treat in a week in fifteen days, it'
2:03:47
s going to seem, but sometimes it' s treatments that are multidisciplinary,
2:03:55
where we have to be in conventional doctors of alternative medicine, doctors who today
2:04:02
also find in personality problems, in terms of nervousness, in so much anxiety,
2:04:06
in terms of depression, because many times this is a whole paque that
2:04:11
is not a thing that you say good, is that look is an inflamed
2:04:15
phalanx, a baby and called. It is not a recurrent process and often
2:04:20
does not affect the joints properly, but the ligamentous tissue, being jointed And
2:04:28
many times, if this were not enough, it is also accompanied by a
2:04:31
great tiredness. That' s where we also talk about chronic fatigue syndrome Algia
2:04:36
phylomy is a complex issue and treatment is not 100 percent necita. Unfortunately,
2:04:44
not a single good saying, because everyone does this and it' s going
2:04:47
to work for them. There are no people who are better off with anogesics,
2:04:51
others are better off with small doses of antidepressants, others are better with
2:04:58
anxiolytic combinations, etc, massages, etc, so that they can at least
2:05:06
make them bearable and give these poor patients a certain quality of life who have
2:05:11
it with phylomyargy. Of course, there we find the fibromyalgia patients, which
2:05:16
is a pathology that is already being detected in many people, in women and
2:05:25
also in men. Even I have a friend who has fibromyalgia. And then
2:05:32
we talked about arthritis, that there' s that variant that you' ve
2:05:39
explained as well. And then the osteoarthritis as such, which has a more
2:05:43
degenerative connotation, and we talked about but all this. We talked about pain,
2:05:48
all that, of course, palliative is the enalgesic anti- inflammatory,
2:05:59
but clear in his with his mail and is regular with his corresponding gastric protector.
2:06:04
But, but, of course, all of this too cannot be spent
2:06:10
all of life like this because it turns out that, obviously, there is
2:06:16
also a wear of the mucosa and of the stomach. And all that,
2:06:20
then the pain problem. There are some other formulas to attack him. Well,
2:06:26
this situation is always dear Julio. A comprehensive study of the patient should
2:06:30
be conducted and treatment should be given. Before commenting, we were saying that
2:06:35
we do not, unfortunately, have a simple treatment, although this began to
2:06:42
be so. An attempt was made to seek treatment for these so- called
2:06:47
rheumatic pains, because that word, for it is a word let' s
2:06:51
say encompassing. Yes, but within that group of rheumatic entities, as we
2:06:57
see, there are variants and in fact we have all three variants, but
2:07:01
they are not unique. There are other variants that we could be talking about.
2:07:08
So, because of the complexity and the patient' s discomfort, we
2:07:13
have to find the most appropriate solution to your personal case, to your particular
2:07:19
case. Now there are very mild situations that the patient goes to the family
2:07:24
doctor, tells him what happens to him. The doctor gives them painkillers,
2:07:29
takes them for eight or ten fortnights. The problem is solved and to something
2:07:33
else it goes no further. The problem is when this, when you stop
2:07:38
treatment, the pain reappears or reappears, you receive it over time. And
2:07:44
that pain, then, is appearing again and again. And also, because
2:07:48
sometimes over time it not only reappears, but increases, sharpened and becomes chronic
2:07:54
bearable. So there, well, sometimes we get like this, but extreme
2:08:01
to have to use the morfin Apaches to every few cases, to see it
2:08:05
is not advisable and data we are telling ourselves. Perhaps it is the recommendation
2:08:09
God frees me, for that also has some price for the organism. But
2:08:15
in some cases, even in very extreme situations, because you know that there
2:08:20
are specialized doctors, specialized in the treatment of pain, the famous pain clinics,
2:08:26
where we refer to patients those patients that we can say are impossible and
2:08:31
that we have to use drugs of these more aggressive and therefore also more controlled
2:08:35
by exits, so that these fellow specialists treat these few patients. When you
2:08:41
see extremes to see, there we are internists, there we are rheumatologists,
2:08:48
there we are family doctors, there we are are neopaths, there we are
2:08:52
a lot of people who can collaborate and give good results to the santament,
2:08:58
but it is not always easy and does not feel use treatment to everyone the
2:09:01
same. That would be great, of course, because of the complexity it
2:09:05
has good, but the case obviously, I know that formulas are being sought
2:09:09
to alleviate the pain at all costs. But one and it' s the
2:09:13
concluding question today that gives it a twist. Let' s say, well,
2:09:16
this is a more epic question, not if you want. For some
2:09:20
it may seem like what I am going to ask now, but not the
2:09:28
original cause of pain, of the pain of humanity, of the pain of
2:09:31
humanity. Of course you say well, this is a utopia, because a
2:09:37
world without pain is good, it is desirable. There will be a world
2:09:41
without pain, even if some do not want to believe it, but where
2:09:46
is the original cause of pain, of pain in humanity, all kinds of
2:09:50
pain. Well, the information we have I' d tell you is reliable
2:09:54
and comprehensive. We' re not out of light. There in the world
2:09:58
let' s say we move. We know that God creates man and woman
2:10:05
and puts them in an idyllic place to live. God gives orders to some
2:10:13
commandments of what they should do, how they should live and that man and
2:10:18
that woman, because they are living in a closed area called paradise. We
2:10:26
do not know the dimension of that paradise, but the word already evokes a
2:10:31
place of peace, a place of joy, a beautiful place, a place
2:10:37
of rest, a place that, besides there was communion between the human being
2:10:41
and God. God is going to visit the human being people, what a
2:10:45
wonderful thing. It is God who seeks man. It' s God who
2:10:48
lives in that paradise. Okay, but there' s a time when there
2:10:52
' s a breakup. Man does something terrible, it' s a rupture
2:11:00
of relationship with God. Man and his disobedience break that relationship with God and
2:11:05
then look at the curious, dear Julius. Man is expelled from paradise,
2:11:09
that is, he is no longer in the idyllic place, there is no
2:11:13
longer the temperature, there is no longer the moisture of food, there is
2:11:16
no rest, there is no rest that God had originally created for man,
2:11:22
for man, man and woman. In that place he had created, let
2:11:26
us say, it is a different place, it is no longer the ideal
2:11:31
place. And there they begin to appear, because the problems spoken poetically in
2:11:37
that place that is no longer paradise. They saw the first leaf fall from
2:11:41
a tree and surely saw the first dead living being. And all that good
2:11:50
evolution. From Adam and Eve to us we have evolved, not in the
2:11:56
evolutionary sense of evolution, but in the sense of Judaism. As human beings
2:12:01
at the level of knowledge. And well, there he who ridicules this story
2:12:07
and says that a myth and even people of high rank within the Christian ideology
2:12:15
say that that was a myth look. I don' t think so.
2:12:20
I believe that God really gave origin to the human being. And what'
2:12:26
s more, I believe in the reality that this man and this first woman
2:12:33
would really exist and that this man and this first woman after that situation,
2:12:37
they had children and these children spread out. And we see in chapter nine
2:12:41
of Genesis that we are told of there are seventy names, seventy peoples,
2:12:46
seventy families that are going to populate the earth and then there is a process
2:12:50
of adaptation to see that that is all human beings. If you live several
2:12:56
generations in a place where the sun is intense. Therefore, towards the center
2:13:01
of the planet it will receive greater solar radiation and will develop darker pigmentation,
2:13:07
because it is necessary to protect itself from solar rays. And after generations,
2:13:13
the skin of that group is going to be much darker than those who migrated
2:13:18
to the north, to the higher ends, where there is less light and
2:13:22
those people are whiter. It' s just that a population of whites,
2:13:30
once blacks, would have spontaneously emerged here. We all have a common origin
2:13:33
in Adam and Eve We do not all have a common origin there. That
2:13:37
' s where the problem began, in man' s disobedience. But you
2:13:41
' ll say, well now we already know that. We' re already
2:13:46
making it right. It' s just a lie. Human beings continue to
2:13:50
violate God’ s laws day by day. Moreover, many of the diseases
2:13:54
from which our society is sometimes generated by our habits, customs and by our
2:14:00
stubbornness, our or stubbornness, our stubbornness, because people know it is bad
2:14:09
to smoke, but smoke. People know it' s bad in certain practices,
2:14:16
but they practice them. They know it' s wrong to take certain
2:14:22
foods too much, but they take them and many times this is done consciously.
2:14:26
Well, people say good about something I have to die. And indeed,
2:14:31
in this world, as long as God does not fix it, there
2:14:35
is death as a fruit to that original sin that not only committed the snow,
2:14:39
but we have all committed not because the apostle Paul tells us that all
2:14:43
have sinned and are restored to the glory of God. Not only Adam Nieva,
2:14:48
but you and the whole world We are destitute of God' s glory,
2:14:54
but glory to God, who, in the very act of man'
2:14:58
s sin, generated a solution to the great sickness that leads us to death,
2:15:03
which leads us to destruction. And this medicine is in Christ Jesus,
2:15:09
because there is no other name under heaven, given men in whom we can
2:15:13
be saved. He is the savior, he is the regenerator, he is
2:15:20
the sanctifier, he is the healer, he is the purifier, he is
2:15:24
the one who carried all that sin on his back and nailed him to the
2:15:28
cross. Precisely because of all this guilt of all of us and because of
2:15:33
that gaze of faith in that Saviour who is on the cross with his arms
2:15:37
stretched out, embracing everyone who wants to go is that we have salvation by
2:15:43
our merits, neither weeds, nor saints, nor popes, nor shepherds,
2:15:46
nor bishops, nor relics, nor images. No one can mediate between God
2:15:52
and men, because only Christ has that function of vicar, of pontiff,
2:16:00
which is the true pontiff who makes a bridge between God and us, and
2:16:05
only by going to him will we have a solution to this problem. Even
2:16:11
though physical illness progresses and even if we reach that sad moment of death that
2:16:18
you know is only a step into life, where Quisto is waiting for us
2:16:20
with open times and already the last thing I want to tell you in this
2:16:26
line is that you know seen wine seven hundred years before it came. Isaiah
2:16:33
prophesied it. There were other Old Testament prophecies perfectly fulfilled in the first century.
2:16:39
But we are waiting for Christ again on earth and it smells to me
2:16:43
that it won' t take long to understand. I have the thing that
2:16:46
I can be the generation that sees Jesus coming back with power to this world
2:16:54
to rule. And then there will be no death, no sickness, no
2:16:58
wars, no pain, in saying, all that pain caused by man'
2:17:03
s sin. Christ will have taken it away so that he can live as
2:17:09
originally lived the human being, as God created it, to live with him
2:17:13
in paradise. Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is the antidote to the
2:17:18
pain of the soul, the pain of the human soul, the pain of
2:17:22
the deepest human being. And we' ve talked about one thing, and
2:17:28
that thing needs reservations or medical interventions, and this thing really needs a look.
2:17:35
You can go directly to the God of heaven, from here we say
2:17:39
it over and over again and find medicine for the soul in Jesus Christ,
2:17:43
the Lord Jesus Christ, the Savior of our souls, when we go to
2:17:48
him. Honestly, Doctor Rocca, he' s wanted a friend, we
2:17:52
' re looking forward to more, but you' re making us think and
2:17:56
we' re giving you. Thanks again for being with us, thanks to
2:18:00
you for this opportunity and also good my coffee. But don' t solve
2:18:05
the problem. The doctors do what we can. Yes, yes, Enrique,
2:18:09
you have patience with us, daughters we call clients we call you patient,
2:18:15
patients. The patience you have to have with us so that we can
2:18:18
help the intention that is there. Uh, yeah, sometimes, unfortunately,
2:18:22
and we can' t do everything we want for people. But the Lord
2:18:26
is going to have a definitive solution. It' s totally safe, totally
2:18:31
fealted from July. That' s how it is, my dear friend,
2:18:35
I' m sending you a very affectionate hug. I also embrace for you
2:18:37
a very affectionate greeting. It was Audien, and look at the train of
2:18:52
my life. I have placed my house on the rock that is Christ Jesus,
2:19:39
and nothing, nothing can part me from his great love and proclaim and
2:19:56
proclaim over and over again? And proclaim and proclaim over and over again and
2:20:07
me in my house? Will we serve the king of Gloria and I in
2:20:16
my house, serve Loya and I in my house, serve Gloria? I
2:20:50
have put my house on the rock is that Jesus no one will be able
2:21:07
to part me the leftover and proclaim and proclaim as over and over and over
2:21:24
and proclaim or over and over and me in my house? Will we see
2:21:31
Glora' s net and me in my house, we go around Gloria and
2:21:43
I at home will serve the king of glory I my house? Will we
2:22:15
serve Gloria and I in my house? He saw me get out of my
2:22:26
glory I saw my house. We will not serve to watch that others serve
2:22:54
other gods. I have laid my foundation that I and my house will serve
2:23:00
the king of kings and, lord of lords, the only one that is
2:23:05
a sign of all glory if you want to visit our website www. The
2:23:18
train of life, the train of life. Port or me or hello,
2:23:33
friends and friends of good news TV very welcome. In a contemporary way,
2:23:37
Wave Peace Radio seeks to draw bridges of dialogue with the societies of its CD
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in Barcelona, the message of Jesus permeates the programming always with relevance for the
2:23:48
day- to- day people of the 21st century. Today we approach there
2:23:52
to get to know this evangelical Christian broadcaster better. But before we see our
2:23:58
report, we want to encourage you first on our social networks and answer this
2:24:03
question. What kind of content are you looking for in the media and why?
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Well, let' s go see our report on Onda Paz Radio.
2:24:16
Gentlemen, we' re on the move. This unstoppable trains like life itself,
2:24:22
a living parable. Barcelona is one of the most cosmopolitan places in the
2:24:28
world. Situated next to the Mediterranean, the city of Barcelona is full of
2:24:33
scents to love its unique architecture, its picturesque streets and its busy walks of
2:24:43
multicultural activity in this enclave are born in the year two thousand. Onda Paz
2:24:46
Radio a radio proposal inspired by a Christian worldview of life for the near future.
2:24:52
Search aired in Girona, Tarragona and read under the name Ona pau Catalunya.
2:24:58
The radio can make it easy to move. I don' t have
2:25:01
to be in one place watching TV but I can move from one place to
2:25:05
another. That name Onda. Onda is very characteristic in different emitters. In
2:25:09
Catalonia, then I thought that in radio space there was no name like Onda
2:25:16
Paz, for example, and I thought we were characterized by a message of
2:25:20
peaceel. Gospel is the Gospel of peace for all men. And then,
2:25:26
then, from there, because it occurred to me and we gave it legal
2:25:30
personality, our loggers counted life in different key. So, through this different
2:25:33
key, of telling things, what we do the most is interviews, actual
2:25:39
meetings. Current interviews, current debates. We like to be a lot booming
2:25:50
in what' s happening in society. We also played a lot of family
2:25:54
issues. We do a lot of family interviews. We want to put a
2:26:01
lot of value into the family issue. The last years of ninety- nine
2:26:03
to ninety- nine I worked in a third and remember when I told my
2:26:07
Director General that I was leaving, that I knew that I was an evangelical
2:26:11
pastor and that I was also a social communicator. The reporter told him but
2:26:16
you can' t combine him to be here and be there I say no.
2:26:20
I' m not going to devote my entire effort to driving a radio
2:26:24
project. Someone has said that radio is the most effective antidepressant, because there
2:26:30
are many people alone. Julio Pérez' s experience in commercial radio and his
2:26:39
pastoral vocation led him to launch the El Tren de la Vida programme a few
2:26:45
years earlier, which he still occupies today. A fundamental place in the programming
2:26:50
the start of today' s magazín is spread on evangelical stations throughout Spain.
2:26:56
Coinciding with the Barcelona Olympic Games. Interviews with several Christian elite athletes would give
2:27:01
him a vital boost today. I believe that the train of life was an
2:27:07
innovative project in its time in our Christian evangelical environment, because the format of
2:27:13
the interview and also a vagrancy as such, with different sections, also interpreting
2:27:20
the life in key of a journey, a train trip that is very descriptive
2:27:24
of human life. We' re all traveling somewhere, too. When Jesus
2:27:30
began his ministry, there was no media, as we know them today.
2:27:33
There was no written press, there was no television, there was no radio,
2:27:39
but it was not a problem for him to know how to convey his
2:27:43
message. We were used to a very religious format. As for the good
2:27:54
one, I would say the rhetoric, but I noticed that there was a
2:27:58
disconnect with the outside world. I wanted to talk about things in life and
2:28:03
through that I also wanted to talk about faith, spirituality, the blind self,
2:28:07
human spirituality. And then, well, little by little we were articulating
2:28:11
took shape and, in fact, we have seen that model, that format,
2:28:16
has been transferred to all the new generation stations. The good news is
2:28:22
that Jesus stands to die on the Cross, to redeem our moral failure that
2:28:26
is called sin. The Gospel, therefore, is transformative and at the same
2:28:31
time revolutionary. The Gospel is timeless. Also, this message from The Good
2:28:39
News is the one we need today p a mix Ugens than They are written
2:28:54
program. Here is a pau cataluña in the almost quarter of a century in
2:29:00
peace and in the previous stage with the initial magazín. This project on the
2:29:03
waves has received thousands of responses from listeners. One of them is that of
2:29:09
the prestigious painter Sergi Barnills, who, from the intimacy of his professional study,
2:29:16
listened to the train of life, the content helped him discover how much
2:29:20
he needed to have a personal relationship with God. Now, Sergi is also
2:29:24
participating with her own program on the discovery of a square. There he saw
2:29:31
that they were people who carried it inside they felt it. It wasn'
2:29:35
t just word, it was external, it was something lived in Catalan.
2:29:41
We say biscut, but they really did have it in DNA. Then I
2:29:46
saw that it was authentic and I was excited and started to treat Jesus through
2:29:52
the Bible reading, all covert and I didn' t miss a single program.
2:29:58
And peace comes to the heart of a person who, perhaps, is
2:30:03
driving and actually tunes in peace and can change his life. Onda peace also
2:30:11
arrives in the room, room of a hospital, of a person who is
2:30:16
going through some situation of illness And, perhaps, hearing a preaching, hearing
2:30:22
a praise, hearing some message, changes his life. And truly that is
2:30:28
what encourages us to follow. And in Yuke to the first chapter, that
2:30:33
ends up inspired by YouTube. I say if you gave me a month of
2:30:39
spiritual oxygen that I had lost for many years and it was an existential vacuum
2:30:46
and a need for Jesus, but neither did I understand what happened to me
2:30:50
no, but it is that now I have seen it clear. This was
2:30:54
in the year ninety- seven. It' s been many years and I
2:30:58
keep soaking up the word of God, the prayer and I keep listening to
2:31:07
the radio, because good helps me to charge the batteries. Despite the difficulties
2:31:16
along the way. This radio station, which reaches the entire Metropolitan Area of
2:31:22
Barcelona, works with a deep vocation of service to society. Engaged with the
2:31:28
truth tell life in a different key through a message of peace and hope.
2:31:35
But not all are words, but they have a solidarity platform, the website.
2:31:43
There we have a section where people can ask for some reason for prayer
2:31:50
so that we are praying for them. And then also a section where the
2:31:56
person can write, they can ask for any kind of information, any kind
2:32:03
of advice and we also products that we offer you. We have a good
2:32:07
relationship with the various public administrations, with the Greek Directorate of Telecommunications. In
2:32:13
the last time or the possibility of making awards was not a bankruptcy, but
2:32:18
a law that is still prevalent of bestowals or denials, and apparently we were
2:32:24
to be granted the license. But no, no, not most of my
2:32:28
hours, even secular friends that we formed the association of many years in the
2:32:33
city, were almost all, almost all denied, because they are capable.
2:32:43
We intend it to be the radio of all the partners. When I say
2:32:46
to all Christians, I mean the Orthodox sphere, the Catholic sphere and the
2:32:50
Protestant sphere. In addition, we have a vocation to bring good news to
2:32:56
all those who tune our station without knowing each other. The great challenge is
2:33:01
to have God’ s Kingdom among us now carrying the same message that Jesus
2:33:05
brought in his day. For example, in Catalonia we no longer speak of
2:33:09
the media empire of copying. That' s already there for me. I
2:33:15
' m not talking about the 200 Maria radio stations everywhere. I am talking
2:33:20
about the ten commercial radio stations Estel in Catalonia, which are Catholic with daily
2:33:24
Mass morning and afternoon and which are very good stations and very professional. But
2:33:31
the democratically comparative grievance is brutal. We don' t seem to have to
2:33:37
ask LIMOSNITA to see Yes, please, we' re not on the looserope.
2:33:43
In addition, it exchanges content with different Protestant media and connects directly every
2:33:50
day with the news media of Catalonia Radio. On the other hand, Onda
2:33:54
Paz works thanks to the collaboration of many people. Its non- profit face
2:34:00
has led the station to create a network of friends willing to support it in
2:34:05
various ways, not just financially. They are the volunteers, they are the
2:34:13
basis of the project, because without them there are many things that we could
2:34:18
not do. They' re in charge, many times of editing parts we
2:34:22
didn' t get calls to. Get in touch with the people who help
2:34:30
us with partner collaborators, both by mailing and the whole messaging theme. When
2:34:37
there' s fund raising, volunteers are everything and it doesn' t work
2:34:43
here on what radio is, it' s the accounting part, the administrative
2:34:46
part. Also with partner partners. I make the remittances, I prepare the
2:34:52
papers. Then I collaborate with the director of the station. I' m
2:34:58
also happy to come here about Proue, which is called written. We'
2:35:01
re talking about painting, but the center is always the master. Art is
2:35:07
wonderful and thanks to the Lord that we can tell others about himself through art.
2:35:22
I also had a radio program of prayer intercession and it was very good.
2:35:28
Also in that sense, because there were many needs in which people could
2:35:33
open and pray and talk to Dad, with God, but also talk to
2:35:37
us. And what we intend is that the city of Spain and all the
2:35:43
people who listen to us on the Internet, know the love of God,
2:35:46
know the person of Jesus through how we tell things from the wave of peace,
2:35:52
from the speaker. How interesting to see how peace is to connect the
2:36:03
message of the Gospel with the situations of the day- to- day this
2:36:09
ban What difference it makes to have this approach in a medium, because I
2:36:15
really think they hit the spot when it comes to communicating. In the Bible
2:36:16
we see how Jesus, while here on earth, was talking about eternal spiritual
2:36:22
realities to people, but always taking into account their temporal earthly context in which
2:36:30
they lived. The truth is that Jesus made different allusions to means such as
2:36:35
agriculture, to the farmer in the villages where he was going to preach.
2:36:39
He also taught people to see and attend to the needs of those most in
2:36:43
need, but also, for example, to relate to the authorities what the
2:36:48
Roman empire was like at that time, and all while addressing the great need
2:36:54
of the heart of the human being, look what he says I kill eighteen
2:36:58
eleven, the son of man. Speaking of himself, Jesus has come to
2:37:01
save what had been lost. It is clear that Jesus was concerned about the
2:37:09
physical and material questions of people, but at the same time he also brought
2:37:13
a message of forgiveness and salvation that he himself was going to materialize, dying
2:37:18
on the cross for all of us. Yes, Benny brought the possibility of
2:37:24
having peace with God, even though we had all decided to live in our
2:37:28
own way without respecting his perfect will, even though that has generated terrible consequences
2:37:35
in our world asphyxiated with injustices, despite our own mistakes, Jesus died and
2:37:41
rose to fill us with peace. He brings peace in a way that nothing
2:37:48
and no one can bring into our lives. That peace with God inundates the
2:37:52
lives of his followers, not only in good times, but also in dealing
2:37:56
with the greatest difficulties and problems that come across in times of darkness. You
2:38:03
already know Jesus, the prince of peace. You hear his voice today and
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you will never regret it before we leave. We want to encourage you to
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read the Bible and thanks to the work of the evangelical churches and the generosity
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of Bible society in Spain, we can give you this Bible. If you
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don' t have her on the phone yet. Nine, one, seven,
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four, three, four, four, zero, zero, and we
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' ll make you free for those of us who are part of our friends
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' club. Let' s go around the book The Train of Life,
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a book by Julio Pérez that comes to us thanks to its author. Thank
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you so much for your attention and don' t forget, you' re
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worth, so much for God. Four, The Train of Life, an
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exciting journey along the routes of the Corazó, an unforgettable trip at the rate
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of trem the evangelical churches a place of peace and friendship. You can freely
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attend the nearest evangelical church in your neighborhood or your population. You' ll
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be very welcome.