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- 0:02Speaker 1: It's time for donkey of the day. There's a bunch
- 0:04Speaker 1: of donkeys out here. It really caught me off guard.
- 0:09Speaker 2: We live a life where we bite our tongue based
- 0:11Speaker 2: off who we may offend. We never would say anything.
- 0:16Speaker 2: You are a donkey.
- 0:18Speaker 1: That is why Charlemagne is here.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Don't you today for Wednesday, September 16th goes the FBI
- 0:30Speaker 2: director cash Patel.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Now this is a very.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Teachable moment and I need everybody listening to me this
- 0:35Speaker 2: morning to listen with the intent to understand and not
- 0:38Speaker 2: just reply.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Okay.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Exercise some patience because this story is exactly why you
- 0:43Speaker 2: can't just read headlines.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Okay. Sometimes the headline sounds so damn ridiculous.
- 0:47Speaker 2: That your supercomputer and your skull, your supercomputer and your
- 0:52Speaker 2: skull stops Putin. OK, and I'm sure when you saw
- 0:56Speaker 2: that the FBI changed its hiring policy so that bestiality
- 1:00Speaker 2: is no longer necessarily an automatic disqualifier.
- 1:03Speaker 1: You said, excuse me.
- 1:04Speaker 2: OK, some of y'all are just hearing this for the
- 1:06Speaker 2: first time. So let's go to ABC News for the report, please.
- 1:09Speaker 3: A fiery hearing on Capitol Hill today featuring name calling,
- 1:12Speaker 3: personal attacks and yes, talk. of prostitution, for starters, in
- 1:16Speaker 3: front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. FBI Director Kash Patel
- 1:20Speaker 3: defending a recent policy change in hiring to not automatically
- 1:24Speaker 3: disqualify some job applicants at the bureau who participated in, yes,
- 1:29Speaker 3: previous prostitution or even bestiality. A topic sparking plenty of
- 1:34Speaker 3: curious questioning across party lines.
- 1:38Speaker 4: We did not want to punish victims of bestiality, victims
- 1:42Speaker 4: who were trafficked. We did not want to make it
- 1:44Speaker 4: an automatic disqualification for the FBI to consider you.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Tell me what it said before.
- 1:49Speaker 4: It automatically disqualified any individual who participated on either side
- 1:54Speaker 4: of it. Obviously, we are never going to hire the criminal.
- 1:57Speaker 1: The side of what? The bestiality?
- 1:59Speaker 5: Yes.
- 2:00Speaker 1: So you disqualified the animal?
- 2:04Speaker 4: Well, I don't think we have great canines, but we're
- 2:07Speaker 4: not going to disqualify.
- 2:08Speaker 5: I understand.
- 2:09Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand why you did this.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Look, there are certain things that I thought automatically eliminated
- 2:15Speaker 2: you from certain jobs. And if you're applying to the
- 2:17Speaker 2: FBI and somewhere in your background, somebody has to ask
- 2:20Speaker 2: you about your sexual history, history with animals.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I feel like we can stop the interview.
- 2:25Speaker 2: OK, but here's where this story gets more complicated and why,
- 2:28Speaker 2: in my opinion, this wasn't a good faith Senate hearing. OK,
- 2:31Speaker 2: Senator John Kennedy questioned Cash Patel about this. And Patel's
- 2:36Speaker 2: explanation was that the FBI changed the policy because there
- 2:40Speaker 2: could be people who were victims of human trafficking who
- 2:43Speaker 2: were forced to participate in sexual acts involving animals. Cash's
- 2:48Speaker 2: position was that someone shouldn't automatically lose the opportunity to
- 2:51Speaker 2: work for the FBI because of something horrific that was
- 2:54Speaker 2: done to them or something they were forced to do.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Guess what? I agree with that. OK, if somebody was trafficked,
- 2:59Speaker 1: abused and.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Forced into doing something, that person is a victim and
- 3:02Speaker 2: you cannot punish somebody for the rest of their life
- 3:04Speaker 2: for something another human being forced him to do. So
- 3:07Speaker 2: Cash Patel isn't getting donkey of the day because he
- 3:09Speaker 2: wants to protect victims. He's getting the biggest hee haw
- 3:12Speaker 2: because why in the hell didn't you just write the
- 3:15Speaker 2: policy that way? OK, that's why they're calling you incompetent cash.
- 3:20Speaker 2: You're the FBI director. Words matter. OK, words matter with
- 3:23Speaker 2: the FBI, period. Definitions matter. Distinctions matter. Being an FBI
- 3:28Speaker 2: agent is all about understanding distinctions. You got to know
- 3:31Speaker 2: the difference between a suspect and a witness, a victim
- 3:33Speaker 2: and a perpetrator, legal or illegal. OK, evidence or allegation.
- 3:37Speaker 2: You have to be clear, okay? If what you mean
- 3:41Speaker 2: is a victim of trafficking or abuse will not be
- 3:44Speaker 2: automatically disqualified for conduct they were forced to.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Participate in, you gotta write that out, okay?
- 3:50Speaker 2: Why are we creating language broad enough that the director
- 3:54Speaker 2: of the FBI has to sit before the United States
- 3:56Speaker 2: Senate explaining the circumstances under which somebody was doing the
- 4:01Speaker 2: no pants dance with a puppy, okay?
- 4:03Speaker 1: Somebody that was doing the no.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Pants dance with a puppy might not automatically prevent them
- 4:07Speaker 2: from joining the FBI. Why is that a conversation? Okay,
- 4:10Speaker 2: that's why people think America is an unserious place. Victims
- 4:15Speaker 2: deserve context. Okay, if somebody was forced to do something,
- 4:18Speaker 2: that's different from somebody choosing to do it.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know why that's difficult to understand. Context
- 4:23Speaker 1: will always matter.
- 4:24Speaker 2: There are some behaviors society has every right to treat
- 4:28Speaker 2: as extremely serious when somebody voluntarily chooses to engage in them.
- 4:32Speaker 2: And that's why this policy needed to be written with
- 4:35Speaker 2: surgical care.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Precision.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Because when people hear bestiality is no longer an automatic
- 4:42Speaker 2: disqualifier for the FBI, they're not thinking about a trafficking victim.
- 4:46Speaker 2: They're thinking somebody was clapping the cheeks of a cheetah. OK,
- 4:50Speaker 2: that's what people hear. And that's not the public's fault,
- 4:53Speaker 2: Kash Patel, because leadership isn't just having the right intention.
- 4:57Speaker 2: If I got to spend 10 minutes, 10 minutes explaining
- 4:59Speaker 2: why something that sounds completely insane actually makes sense under
- 5:04Speaker 2: one extremely specific circumstance.
- 5:06Speaker 1: That's your fault.
- 5:07Speaker 2: OK, you had an exception designed to protect victims. But
- 5:11Speaker 2: instead of making the exception unmistakably about victims, you created
- 5:15Speaker 2: a national conversation about whether people who voluntarily do the
- 5:19Speaker 2: hanky panky with pandas should be eligible to work for
- 5:22Speaker 2: the FBI.
- 5:23Speaker 1: How did we get here?
- 5:24Speaker 2: OK, not automatically disqualified does not mean automatically qualified.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Those are two completely different things.
- 5:31Speaker 2: And if you're keeping score, the FBI can still investigate
- 5:34Speaker 2: someone's background and evaluate their conduct and determine if that
- 5:38Speaker 2: person shouldn't be anywhere near a federal badge. So why
- 5:41Speaker 2: turn this into something it isn't? And that's why they
- 5:44Speaker 2: was grilling you in that Senate hearing, Cash. OK, they
- 5:47Speaker 2: could have set you up to explain the policy.
- 5:49Speaker 1: All right. But that's not what they wanted to do.
- 5:51Speaker 2: They wanted to prove you weren't qualified for the position
- 5:55Speaker 2: and you gave them all the fuel they needed. OK,
- 5:58Speaker 2: the FBI had what Patel says was a legitimate concern.
- 6:03Speaker 2: I think it's a legitimate concern about protecting victims from
- 6:06Speaker 2: being punished for acts they were forced to participate in.
- 6:09Speaker 2: And somehow that legitimate concern got translated into a policy
- 6:13Speaker 2: debate where United States senators are asking the FBI director
- 6:18Speaker 2: about bestiality. Sometimes your intentions aren't the problem. Your execution is. OK,
- 6:25Speaker 2: you can mean well and communicate terribly. Please give FBI
- 6:29Speaker 2: Director Kash Patel the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons.
- 6:32Speaker 5: Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You
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