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Happy Hour #126: Always In Motion Is Star Wars · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Steff. I
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  Speaker 1: never told you a production of I Hurted you, And
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of A Happy Hour. May Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars edition, Yes, yes it Yes, as always, if you
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  Speaker 1: are drinking or whatever you're choosing to do, do so responsibly.
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  Speaker 1: If we mentioned anything in here, we're not currently sponsored
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  Speaker 1: by it, even Star Wars, so believe it or that
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  Speaker 1: missed opportunities, missed opportunities. Samantha, are you sipping on anything?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, bubble water?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: What about you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, I am sipping on blue milk. Oh you
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  Speaker 1: found I found some blue milk.
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  Speaker 2: What's it taste like?
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  Speaker 1: It tastes like vanilla milk, okay, whitely sweet milk.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: There's a splash of remit there.
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  Speaker 2: Put any alcohol in it, so I've had.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of rem So for those who don't know,
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  Speaker 1: blue milk is kind of the iconic milk that you
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  Speaker 1: see throughout the series. You see it first in a
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  Speaker 1: New Hope when Lucas drinking it. It's available at the
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  Speaker 1: Disney theme parks, where it's not milk. Actually, but this,
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  Speaker 1: from what I've read, is the first time you've ever
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  Speaker 1: been able to buy it in grocery stores. It's limited
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  Speaker 1: time promotion, and I couldn't find it anywhere, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh no, and yes I am a sucker.
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  Speaker 1: I can hear all of you rolling your eyes, and
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. But I was like, blue milk, I've got
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  Speaker 1: to get it. I also got Yeah, I got I
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  Speaker 1: got some Star Wars hot sauce too.
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  Speaker 2: But what is that? What is that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I haven't gotten it yet, but it has ghost
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  Speaker 1: pet for it. It's gonna kick. I can't wait. It's
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  Speaker 1: got Darth Vader's helmet on it, and I personally love
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  Speaker 1: I think I might write a fan fiction about this,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm deciding what my fan fiction will be that
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  Speaker 1: I post on Star Wars Day, May the fourth, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And I think there could be a fun opportunity of
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  Speaker 1: Darth Vader realizing how much merchandise has his face on it. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: because it's just his helmet. Yeah, I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot you'd be angry about.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he's upset.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll be.
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  Speaker 2: Because he didn't capitalize on it.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll be upset because they're not respecting him.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you make me a bubblehead type.
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  Speaker 1: Or he's like a waffle iron. There's yes tissue paper
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  Speaker 1: like it's true, so there's a lot. I think something
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  Speaker 1: like dot toy, a dog toy. Yeah, I got one.
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  Speaker 1: It's pas.
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  Speaker 2: She loves yes, takes the cape and just sling.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is great. I think this is a
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  Speaker 1: good idea. I think this is what I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go with because I wanted something kind of lighter for
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  Speaker 1: this one. But anyway, I couldn't find the blue milk.
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  Speaker 1: And my good friend friend of the show, Katie found
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  Speaker 1: it for me. Of course, she cured it for me,
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  Speaker 1: brought it. We tried it this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: She's a wizard. Yes, she finds things.
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  Speaker 1: She finds the thing I did. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: knew she would be the one, and I said, can
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  Speaker 1: you please keep an eye out? And like a day later,
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  Speaker 1: she said, I found it And there was even a
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  Speaker 1: website you could go on and like search it out,
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't showing up on anywhere near me, but
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  Speaker 1: she found it. Anyway, She and I and another friend
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  Speaker 1: tried it this weekend and we tried it with a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of different things, and we made up a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of different drinks. So it's been fun. It's been fun.
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  Speaker 2: I still a Kurt's thinking about that.
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  Speaker 1: Well. The other funny part of it is somehow my
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  Speaker 1: friend got I won't say co worse, but basically a
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  Speaker 1: sweet shop owner talked her into buying banana frum and
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  Speaker 1: we've been trying to we've been trying to use this
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  Speaker 1: and so we were trying to come up with drinks
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  Speaker 1: with that. I yeah, I'm like a one and done
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  Speaker 1: with this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she told me about this. She's like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't even to bring it to you because you can
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  Speaker 2: make cocktails. Like I don't know if I can save that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because she texted me and she was asking me, like,
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  Speaker 1: what can I do with this? And I said, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. That's the first I've heard of this. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it is very nice. But yes, it is a one
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  Speaker 1: and done for me. But I'm happy I found it.
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  Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot of people experimenting with it,
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  Speaker 1: like making pancakes with it and stuff like that. So
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  Speaker 1: that's cool. For today, Yes, we are talking about Star Wars,
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  Speaker 1: and I love how many people have been contacting me
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  Speaker 1: about my thoughts on the prequel trilogy because the Phantom
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  Speaker 1: Menace is going to be back in theaters. I also
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  Speaker 1: have a fun project on Savor other podcasts we do
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  Speaker 1: where we're talking about popcorn buckets, and there's very elaborate
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  Speaker 1: popcorn buckets for Star Wars. I have to say, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize, and it's one of those things where I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of stressed out because I sort of just planning
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  Speaker 1: on like watching Star Wars and eating food Star Wars
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  Speaker 1: and food and drinking Star Wars seem drinks. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: happy people want to hang out. I'm glad. I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: people are celebrating it. But I don't know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna do yet. However, So today I did want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about something. This is actually an article I found
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, and it's called eleven things
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  Speaker 1: we Know about George Lucas's unused Star Wars sequel chilogy scripts.
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  Speaker 1: And this is from screen Rants by Liz Declin. This
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  Speaker 1: has been circulating around for a while, like these ideas have.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say at the front that this doesn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily I don't want this to sound like I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: equal trilogy sexist would have been better. I think that
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  Speaker 1: in a very strange way that I wasn't anticipating the
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  Speaker 1: Disney ones are much sadder than whats, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to go over it just because it does. It
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  Speaker 1: did make me kind of sad because I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that would have been so much nicer, Like that's like
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  Speaker 1: a happier ending.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like there's a flip of times
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  Speaker 2: where we'll get things that are all happy endings and
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  Speaker 2: then they're like, no, now we have to twist it.
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  Speaker 2: Everything has to be really really sad. And it's just
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  Speaker 2: like a genre bending where they're like, all right, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna switch it up now, and if one person does it,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's got yep, we gotta do that too.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right, And I know I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: this before, but I'm honestly fascinated with this thing that
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  Speaker 1: I've seen happen in a lot of franchises where somebody
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  Speaker 1: who grew up watching like the original trilogy in this case,
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  Speaker 1: loved it, they get the chance to direct one and
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  Speaker 1: they make it so much sadder, and it's usually like
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  Speaker 1: the people from the original trilogy have given up. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, it's like it's like you get older and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, I'm done with this optimism.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is awful. I'm in pain for are you?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's fascinating to me. Like Star Wars is not
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  Speaker 1: the only thing. I have a lot of examples of
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  Speaker 1: people franchises where that has happened. So I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go over some of the big ones that the
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  Speaker 1: big points in this article that I was like, ah,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of them, if you're like this not feminism,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them are about Leyah. Oh bumps me
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  Speaker 1: out because you know, I love Leiah. No, But originally
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  Speaker 1: Leia was going to be the main character of the
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  Speaker 1: sequel trilogy. She was going to be revealed as the
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  Speaker 1: Chosen One, which, if you don't know, this is a
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  Speaker 1: very convoluted and controversial and much argued idea in Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars about who's a Chosen One. Usually it's either you
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  Speaker 1: think it was Anakin Darth Vader or you think it
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  Speaker 1: was Luke. In the sequel trilogy, it would have been
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  Speaker 1: really revealed to be Leyah. It's so cool, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: The Chosen One is supposed to bring balance to the
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  Speaker 1: force and the like. The whole idea why people get
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  Speaker 1: so like, why they like to fight about it is
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  Speaker 1: people like to fight about what balance means because Luke
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  Speaker 1: is sort of your light side, darth Vader's sort of
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  Speaker 1: your dark side, so she I think this is such
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  Speaker 1: a cool idea, like if it had been revealed, and
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  Speaker 1: also because Leah understandably has a lot of hang ups
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  Speaker 1: around the Force. She's afraid of it, She's afraid of
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  Speaker 1: what she's seen it do, She's afraid of darth Vader.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't like darth Vader, like accepting any of that.
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  Speaker 1: That would have been such a great like emotional arc,
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  Speaker 1: or it could have been if they handled it correctly.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, like that could have been like a really
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  Speaker 1: cool having her come to terms with that, that would
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  Speaker 1: have been really neat. She was also going to become
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  Speaker 1: the leader of the New Republic, which is also pretty
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  Speaker 1: cool because that would follow in like the footsteps of
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  Speaker 1: Bail Organa, who is her adoptive father, and Padme Amdala,
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  Speaker 1: which is her biological mother. And also she was just
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  Speaker 1: a great leader. But so many things that we saw
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  Speaker 1: in the Disney sequel trilogy didn't work, which is what
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  Speaker 1: I mean is the New Republic didn't work, like the
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  Speaker 1: Jedi Order didn't work. Like these things didn't work, And
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  Speaker 1: I think that. You know, that's an interesting storyline, sad one,
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  Speaker 1: but it is interesting. A lot of things in this
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  Speaker 1: version would have worked better. Like it's not like it
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  Speaker 1: would have been easy, but her New Republic would have
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  Speaker 1: succeeded as opposed to the New Republican the sequel trilogy,
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  Speaker 1: which kind of collapsed pretty soon. I guess I should
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  Speaker 1: say spoiler alert, but I feel like people know about
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. Ten years is the rule. Twenty nineteen was
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  Speaker 1: the Rise of Skywalker. Well, sorry, uh, another thing, and
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  Speaker 1: I just have to fit this in here because like Skywalker's,
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  Speaker 1: like my fave, his Jedi Temple would never have fallen apart.
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  Speaker 1: He would have made some changes and it would have
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  Speaker 1: and it would It would have had trouble, but it
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  Speaker 1: would have worked out. It would have been destroyed also
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  Speaker 1: very quickly. Also, that would have been nice. That would
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  Speaker 1: have been nice. The main and was gonna be Darth Maul,
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  Speaker 1: who was introduced in the Phantom Menace, and you can
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  Speaker 1: see hints of that and a lot of the like
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  Speaker 1: the Solo movie and in some of the animated stuff
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  Speaker 1: that he was meant to have a much bigger role.
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  Speaker 1: This also entails that his apprentice, who was a very
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  Speaker 1: sexualized version of Darth Maule was gonna be in there.
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  Speaker 1: She hasn't shown up yet in Disney Cannon, but I
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  Speaker 1: bet she will. I don't know how people will feel
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  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, and then more Jedi would have survived.
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  Speaker 1: That would have been nice.
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  Speaker 2: No murder of children, that would have been lovely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the prequels already did that. Why'd we have to
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  Speaker 1: do that again? Yeah? Yes, Sleigh would have been the
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  Speaker 1: leader of this. She would have been a mentor to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. And yeah, I just really likes
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  Speaker 1: that she would have been such a vocal point of it. Again, like,
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  Speaker 1: this is ideas that I get why they didn't do them,
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  Speaker 1: for logistical reasons, technological technological reasons, and also that this
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  Speaker 1: sounding good on paper doesn't mean it would have worked.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen that before, so I want to make that
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  Speaker 1: very clear. But when I was reading, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this sounds so much nicer. This sounds
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  Speaker 1: so much nicer. And I did want to also mention
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  Speaker 1: I was reading last night as I want to do
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  Speaker 1: another article. I sort of love the ongoing debates that happen.
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  Speaker 1: The pain of my existence is something I also love.
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  Speaker 1: Both are true about certain things in Star Wars. One
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  Speaker 1: of the big things that we have talked about before
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  Speaker 1: in our prequel episode that we did, but also in
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  Speaker 1: episode where I've talked about Padme, this is the controversy
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  Speaker 1: around Padme's death and what it meant. There is a
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  Speaker 1: popular it's not really a meme, but there's something pops
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  Speaker 1: circulating around social media right now that's like how we
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  Speaker 1: remember Padme. She died broken heart, and then on the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the chart, it's like everything she did
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  Speaker 1: and she did all this amazing stuff. So I like
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  Speaker 1: that her character is sort of getting some recognition. But
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  Speaker 1: one of the big things people often talk about is
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  Speaker 1: her death, like did the Emperor cause it? Did she
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  Speaker 1: die of a broken heart? Did Anakin kind of slowly
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  Speaker 1: kill her accidentally via choking so that wasn't accidental, But
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  Speaker 1: did she die from the fallout of that? One of
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  Speaker 1: the things I've never heard this before, but we did
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  Speaker 1: talk about it briefly. There was kind of a scrapped
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  Speaker 1: idea that about the impact of having a force sensitive
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  Speaker 1: child would have on someone who's pregnant. Would they then
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  Speaker 1: like have some temporary force abilities or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: And especially if it's somebody if it's twins and they're
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  Speaker 1: the grand shill the Force, And yes, I know some
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  Speaker 1: of you don't have any idea what I'm talking about,
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  Speaker 1: but literally the Force, then what would happen? And that
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  Speaker 1: whole idea got scrapped, but people are still talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things I've never thought about this before,
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  Speaker 1: but in Revenge of the Sith, there's the scene where
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  Speaker 1: Darth Vader Anakin has been burned, and this is after
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  Speaker 1: he's left. He choked his wife and she disappeared. He
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  Speaker 1: has this fight with Obi Wan left for dead burns.
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  Speaker 1: Emperor comes puts him in suit. The first thing it's
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  Speaker 1: infamous scene Darth Vader comes up, very evocative of Frankenstein,
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  Speaker 1: and he asked the Emperor, where's padme? She's safe? An
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  Speaker 1: Emperor says, it seems and you're angered or Vader you've
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  Speaker 1: killed her? And then Vader's like, no, I that can't be.
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  Speaker 1: I felter, No, it's infamous. You know what I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about anyway, But this article, apparently there's a popular theory
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  Speaker 1: going around that was talking about like, well, what did
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  Speaker 1: he mean when he was saying, like I felt, what
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  Speaker 1: does that mean? Because she died when he would be
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  Speaker 1: out in surgery. So does that mean he felt her
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  Speaker 1: when he woke up when in which time she was
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  Speaker 1: already dead. So the theory is that he was actually
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  Speaker 1: feeling Luke and Leah and because they were so connected
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  Speaker 1: to her presence, and that's why he never sensed them
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  Speaker 1: because he assumed this was some weird force punishment guilt
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  Speaker 1: thing because he was feeling them then and he thought
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  Speaker 1: it was padme and he just never got over that,
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  Speaker 1: which I thought was really fascinating. The article's really good
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  Speaker 1: if you want to look it up. This is also
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  Speaker 1: from screenrants because it makes it like a because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are rightfully bad about how they died.
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  Speaker 1: It's a painful. See she's not really given like that
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  Speaker 1: much space. She just sort of dies. But this makes sense. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Personal on the other is like why did she die?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: Well, And I feel like they've changed that a lot
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  Speaker 1: from like it's supposed to be the Emperor killed her,
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  Speaker 1: like drained her essence, but it's never made clear Like
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  Speaker 1: I always assumed when I was a kid that she
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  Speaker 1: just died.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is childbirth that she died in childbirth because
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  Speaker 2: she's there, Well that's.
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  Speaker 1: The medical Jerid was like, she's also will to live.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so its heart break was the other conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so I think the Emperor Palpatine thing is the
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  Speaker 1: accepted like he was draining her because so many people
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  Speaker 1: are like she would not. Her last words were literally,
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  Speaker 1: they're still good in him. I know it. I felt
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  Speaker 1: it as.
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  Speaker 2: Well as the fact that she just had children.
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  Speaker 1: She just had kids. So in this article they make
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  Speaker 1: the point like it's she still died in this way.
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  Speaker 1: That was very upsetting. But it's possible that in her
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  Speaker 1: death she departed this protection to Luke and Leab that
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  Speaker 1: allowed them to grow up and to destroy the Emperor,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is a nice a nice take on it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, so many things with Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars are like retcond all the time. Who knows what
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  Speaker 1: the original idea or thought was. That has been one
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  Speaker 1: of consternation from any fans forever of how did Darth
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  Speaker 1: Vader not feel like Luke and Lamb like you can
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  Speaker 1: only that only goes to a certain distance. But he
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  Speaker 1: was around Leah But this, I mean, who knows, who knows?
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  Speaker 1: But I thought that was a nice theory. When I
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  Speaker 1: read it, I was like, Okay, I am glad is
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  Speaker 1: getting more of her due. I'm glad people are revisiting
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  Speaker 1: her character and I love the the thing I was
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  Speaker 1: talking about, like on the things that she did, one
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  Speaker 1: of them was like resisted her husband, fought against her
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  Speaker 1: husband for the beliefs that she held, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: yes she did. Anyway, if you celebrate May the fourth,
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