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What are young men up to? It's a Secret! | Maintaining Frame 88 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everyone, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian with
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  Allison, and this is our episode of Maintaining Frame. What are young Men
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  up to? It's a secret. We're going to get to that in just
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  a moment. First of all, I just wanted to say Happy Monday,
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  and the apocalypse didn't happen. Did you guys see the eclipse? Did you
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  happen to see it? I don't know if you like it depends on where
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  you are, like whether or not you can see it. I came outside
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  just to take a peek and it was cloudy as hell, so I couldn't
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  see it. But Lindsay did from her job. She sent me a picture
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  of it. Now, it's okay. I wasn't expecting to see it.
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  I think every time there's an eclipse, I miss it or I go out.
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  You did, okay, Well, no, no, not me.
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  Because what happened was the some of the supporters in the discord, the listenators,
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  they had a meetup. Oh you know, they'd planned it for the
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  eclipse and they did. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember Mike Jay telling
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  me about that. That's right, yeah, and he actually had he actually
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  sent a an eclipse photo through mainchat grunts. So if you just scroll up
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  a little bit past my adorable re rendering of the photo, you could probably
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  share that with let me see Bad Radio Supporter's official eclipse photo. Well,
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  all right photo, Yeah there you go. Oh oh yeah, I see
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  it. Okay, yeah, I will open it in the browser. Do
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  you see it? That is pretty awesome? Is this a different one?
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  There's like two pictures? Well yeah, there actually are two pictures. One
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  was I guess of the eclipse in general in general, and one was a
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  close up of a like a a solar flare I think, kind of a
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  crazy high end picture. I mean, like, yeah, really nice.
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  Yeah, that is nice. And then there's also my variation on it that
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  I did. It's a little bit lower. You might see that. I
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  saw it with the Yeah, with the googly eyes. Yeah, very silly
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  good cat eyes. So think it looks like void cat is looking down at
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  us from the heavens now speculating. Yeah, speculating on our doings. Yeah,
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  so that that uh yeah, some people have been watched it the so
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  the solar eclipse does not go over where I am. So we didn't even
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  bother Oh yeah, I figured it was too far You guys were too far
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  north or something, so that's really clear. So we've got great weather to
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  see the eclipse, but we didn't see it. M Yeah, well there
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  you go. And I guess the sacrifice of the red heifer did not happen
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  or did not result in what we expected, so we get to live until
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  the next apocalypse, you know, the Second Coming didn't happen. Jesus slept
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  in and he was like ah and he rolled over, So maybe later,
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  maybe later, Yeah, maybe later. Yeah, we hopes are dashed,
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  but I guess we get another year. Yeah, well, I think the
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  next one, the next eclipse is like twenty fifty or something. I don't
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  know. I don't, I don't, I don't. Don't quote me on
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  that. People are going to correct me. You guys know when it is.
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  I I remember seeing it briefly and I was just kind of like okay,
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  you know, so it's kind of like these rare, like these rare
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  astronomical events that come around, like, oh, there's this comment coming,
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  and it's only once every bazillion years, you know, thirty three, thirty
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  three, twenty thirty. Somebody in the chat is saying twenty forty four.
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  See we're all over them, okay, total, Oh, the twent and
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  twenty thirty three will thirty invisible, so I guess that doesn't count. Maybe
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  all. Well, I guess like when you have like a satellite revolving around
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  our planet and then our planet revolving around the Sun, inevitably, just like
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  by the law of mathematics, they are going to like line up for a
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  moment, right, And that's kind of like what it is. I wonder
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  if the Martians have like a version of the eclipse that involves the Earth.
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  I don't know, well, I mean it would probably. I don't think
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  it involves the Earth maybe, No, no, no, it wouldn't involve
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  the Uh. I think the Mars Mars has two moons. Yeah, yeah,
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  I think it does. Logos or demos demos. I think it's demos
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  like, but I'm not sure because they're not like round like the moon.
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  So I don't know what that would look like. Potato went in front of
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  the Sun. Yeah, what if they both like because they're not in the
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  same orbit, maybe they what if they all lined up stacked up? Yeah,
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  I don't know. Maybe it'll make like a maybe it will make like
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  some kind of you know, like a profile. Yeah, a profile of
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  something like a silhouette of something of some kind of I don't know, symbol
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  or I think we're getting a little into the weeds. But well, yeah,
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  I was just saying, anyway, eclipse happened. I thought we should
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  at least remark on it. Hopefully you guys got to see it. I
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  see some people did say that they saw the eclipse. If you guys got
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  any pictures, maybe email them to us and we'll like put them in the
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  Or you can join our discord server by going to imaginations online and drop the
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  pictures in there. Ah. So yeah, well and we'll take a look.
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  Yeah, we enjoy your pictures of things. Yeah, well I'll just
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  leave that. No shoops and no AI drawings of eclipses though, thank you.
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  Okay, bobs and all right, Well, we're gonna be looking at
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  an article. It's actually a substack. What do you call those articles or
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  blogs that I thought was really pretty blartcles? Yeah, bloggicles, let's call
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  them bloggicles. Okay, We're gonna be looking at a bloggical by a gentleman
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  named Santiago Diego called the Vibe Shift. And before we get it, see
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  it bloggical, bloggical? Is that really funny? Okay, no, it's
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  it's no, no, it isn't. I'm just a child, you know
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  that. Yeah, I know. All right. So anyway, before we
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  get into it, let's do the things, all right, So we are
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  slash subscribe for that, all right, Brian, let's say, all right,
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  so we're gonna get into the article if i'd be to give you guys
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  something a little bit positive and then we'll give our thoughts as we go.
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  So this is Vibe Shift by Santiago Pleego, and he starts with a quote.
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  When you can assume that your audience holds the same beliefs as that you
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  do, you can relax a little and use more normal means of talking to
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  it. When you have to assume that it does not, then you have
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  to make your vision apparent by shock to the heart of hearing. You shout,
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  and for the almost blind you draw large and startling figures. Flannery O'Connor
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  Mystery and Manners. A few years ago, a software engineer at Google named
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  James de Moore published an internal memo in response to a mandatory diversity training program.
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  Yes he attended titled Google's Ideological echo Chamber. De Moore, by all
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  conceivable Metrics, the kind of competent, curious engineer that tech companies pay mountains
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  of money to retain, made the unforgivable mistake of essentially asking, hey,
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  what if reality and not targeted misogyny, accounts for the fact that more men
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  than women work in tech. Also, what is it? Yeah? Why
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  does it feel like I could get fired for asking this? Didn't he get
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  fired? He did? He did. This is a screenshot of Demores.
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  Yeah, I know will because he did, he and he was well,
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  I think yeah. Essentially, what Santiago is saying is that this is what
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  it resulted in. Here is a screenshot from Demor's tield you at to begin
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  in the memo, we have gone over this before. Essentially, he was
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  trying to explain why that women are not joining, like, you know,
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  involved in tech, and he said it wasn't because of systemic bias, but
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  rather because of you know, things like interest essentially because like very few men
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  also go into STEM. So just just a brief note, like, I'm
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  not I'm not seeing any visual I don't know does anybody else having Oh no,
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  no, you guys, should the people in the audience should be able
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  to see it. But I don't understand why you can't see it for me.
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  Yeah, maybe let me see why why is it not? Let me
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  see let me see Hold on a second live shift share. Yeah, I'm
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  sharing it now. Okay, so for some reason. Yeah, anyway,
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  you should be able to see it now. Okay, Nope, Yeah,
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  I got it. Okay, all right, all right, all right,
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  okay, all right. Anyway, he was of course fired less than three
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  months later for advancing incorrect assumptions about gender and for raising a perspective that is
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  not a viewpoint that I or this company endorses, promotes or encourages, said
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  Danielle Brown, Google's VP of Diversity, Integrity and Governance. Yeah. I
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  guess they called it dig before, they called it DEI before, they called
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  it JEDI before, they're now calling it Bridge because if we rebrand it then
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  it's a new thing. Okay. I just like this is this is this
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  is their sacred mantra, which is women are oppressed basically, that's it.
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  Like women are oppressed by society any version, Like if you point any situation
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  of inequity or what they consider inequity, so, for example, less women
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  in certain aspects of stem that is not due to women's choices. It has
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  to be due to women's oppression. Right that That is the sacred knowledge,
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  shall we say, or the central pillar of the church that we exist within.
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  You were talking about me and Brian went on this stream with some interesting
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  folks who I think would identify as being on the line left, and at
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  the end Brian mentioned that there isn't really a spectrum, There's only a center,
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  and the left is in the center of that and says that everybody else
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  outside of it is in the exchange. All right, So they have assumed
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  the moral center of society, and this is the narrative by which they do.
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  So the society oppresses women. Therefore we have rights to have authority over
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  every aspect of society to prevent that oppression. It is the narrative of power.
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  Basically, it's what establishes their manifest destiny morally over every aspect of culture.
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  So I just wanted to point that out for those of you who might
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  not know what the heck we're about. That's usually our approach in analyzing things.
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  Okay, all right, yes, so no, no, no,
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  no, no, no, it's fine. I was basically quoting from a
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  book written by Thomas Soul in nineteen ninety six, where he explains that essentially
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  the entire paradigm that everyone is operating in today, whether they consider themselves on
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  the left or the right, it's just it does not exist in that way.
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  And he makes a very good case for it. And that's what I
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  brought forward because people like to say, I'm on this team, and when
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  you like break it down, like when you really look at people's values,
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  it does not make sense. Like and I've been saying this for years and
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  years, and I read it in this book and I was like, that's
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  exactly what I'm talking about. And I was kind of happy to hear that.
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  Like, my perspective is somewhat validated by Thomas Soul, who's no slouch.
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  I must say, all right, but anyway, I see that my
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  mic is doing something. I got to listen to myself for just a second
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  because there's something weird going on. No, No, it's okay, I
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  think. No. I think that there's something wrong with a setting and it's
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  causing a problem. I'm trying to figure out why it's doing this, and
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  I'm sorry it just started to happen. Hello. Hello, I'm trying to
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  listen to myself. Uh, these are my unexpected technical difficulties. Yeah,
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  I hate this. Hold on, I'm gonna shut down voice meter for a
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  second and then turn it back on, and I apologize for that. It
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  might I might lose audio for a for a moment, just a moment.
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  I'll load, I'll load my settings. How's that instead? Okay, sure,
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  I have no idea what you're doing. Okay, but I'm just saying
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  these are these are the technical difficulties that we are having as usual. So
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  this is the mark of authenticity. This is the water mark of this content
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  is not created by a I all right, I think, no, I'm
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  yeah. Can you hear me? Okay? Oh yeah, I'm fine.
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  You're you're fine? Do I sound over that? Fine? All right,
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  I'm fine. Your we all fun? No? I think yeah, I
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  had to like reload the audio settings. I don't know why, but it
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  was like doing a weird thing. But it's fine now, and you guys
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  were able to hear me somewhat. There was just this weird like background noise
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  that I think voice meter was creating it all right, anyway, So let's
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  get back to this article. What struck me the most in revisiting his story
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  is that this happened at the end of twenty seventeen. In my mind,
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  this was something that happened circa twenty twelve, or at least at least or
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  nearly a decade ago, with enough time for the Overton window to collapse to
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  the point where this kind of discussion is now ubiquitous on X and in other
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  places. Had he waited for the vibe shift, de Moore could have posted
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  the above TLDR, which is about women in stem to a receptive audience of
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  tens of millions. And then here's Elon Musk tweeting in twenty twenty four DEI,
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  because it discriminated on the basis of race, gender, and many other
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  factors, is not merely immoral, it is also illegal. It's hard to
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  say exactly how long it's taken for the eponymous vibe to shift, but everyone
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  knows it's happening, or at least the last six months. Not a day
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  has gone by when I haven't seen something, heard a statement, read a
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  post, or had a conversation with someone. That doesn't leave me completely shocked
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  in a good way this would not have happened a year ago. Vib shift.
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  The vibe shift I'm talking about is the speaking of previously unspeakable truths,
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  the noticing of previously suppressed facts. I'm talking about the give you feel when
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  the walls of propaganda and bureaucracy start to move as you push, the very
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  visible dust kicked up in the air as experts and fact checkers scramble to hold
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  on to decaying institutions. The cautious but electric rush of energy when dictatorial edifices
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  designed to stifle innovation, enterprise, and thought are exposed or toppled. You
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  want to say anything to this so far, because I do I have something
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  to say. I really hope this is true. We really do need to
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  have a discussion about the central narrative. The central like this command center narrative,
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  I don't the narrative that everyone adheres to in many cases, like unless
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  you have spent the time to actually deconstruct it. Most people exist within the
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  world of men oppressed women. Therefore, initiatives are justified, All kinds of
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  initiatives and oversight are justified in order to prevent it. And then all of
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  the sort of like sister and daughter narratives around minorities, which somehow always end
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  up back with women's oppression. So go ahead, Brian, Oh yeah,
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  oh yeah, And I think that's true. So I think that he's absolutely
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  right. But the thing is, I think that it doesn't feel that way
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  to because we've been talking about this for like at least ten years something along
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  these lines, right, We've been talking about this stuff for about ten years,
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  and you know, been reading things and doing the work and talking to
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  other people and spreading these conversations. And now I think that what Santiago is
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  speaking to is that he, I mean, he's just a normal guy in
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  his you know, by his own admission, is starting to notice the same
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  things that we've been talking about. And you can see that happening. I
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  think Twitter is a good example because Elon Musk, like you know, I
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  mean, some people don't trust him, and I get it, Like I
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  understand because you know, he was kind of in part of that elite crowd
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  for a while. But then you know, with everything that's that's happened in
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  like the last few years, you can see that his opinions or views on
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  a lot of things seem to have changed. Right at the very least,
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  he's allowing for discussion on the you know, his platform of Twitter now,
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  and that's really escalating this process, right because before, when all of these
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  social media of these social media titans like Twitter and YouTube and Google and Facebook
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  and so on, we're all run by like the same club of people in
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  the same part of the country, and they all had shared they all had
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  lunch together, and they hung out and stuff. It was actually preventing people
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  from having discussions. And now at the very least that Elon has made Twitter
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  somewhat more friendly to free speech, I would say a lot more, but
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  not completely maybe because I know there are some people who are still banned and
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  I don't know the details of that, and it's okay. But the point
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  is is that it is it is having a tremendous effect because now you know,
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  for example, our videos, our live streams do better on Twitter than
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  they do everywhere else, right, Alison, So we get more traffic on
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  our Twitter, which is kind of interesting because Twitter is not a great live
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  streaming platform because like there is no live chat, it doesn't it's not as
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  structured. But more people are seeing it. Hello, Twitter people, and
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  we get more reached there. Than on YouTube, because Twitter doesn't have the
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  same let's say, you know, visibility enhancement system that YouTube has, right
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  or Facebook for that matter, or Twitch, which is also where we're streaming
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  to, because those are all kind of you know, there's like a certain
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  orthodoxy around that. So I think that it's true. And you can see
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  it in other ways too, like you know, go to reference gamer Gate
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  two really quick. Gamer Gate two has a completely different vibe than the first
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  one. The first one was heavily controlled. It was heavily monitored and censored,
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  and everyone was walking on eggshells talking about anything to do with this stuff.
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  And now, like I wouldn't say the gloves are completely off, but
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  people are way more aware of what's going on and there, and they're you
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  know, way more like resistant, Like the pushback is stronger and it's smarter,
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  and people are getting involved weren't before. And I think a lot of
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  this has to do with the fact that it is also mostly happening on Twitter.
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  And when you pair that with other things that have been going on with
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  people talking about you know, like dating and feminism and like, you know
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  and all that, that's also growing. So I think that is true.
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  I think that the stuff that people are saying now that you know what he's
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  saying is essentially what James the Moore said back then in twenty seventeen. Had
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  he said that today, he wouldn't have gotten fired. He might have still
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  gotten fired, but there would have been a lot more support for him,
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  because I think Google is kind of like, you know, a cathedral.
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  Yeah, I think that Google would still probably have fired him, And I
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  think that for some actual, real deep state reasons that we won't get into
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  because Brian knows that you know what I'm talking about, and I don't want
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  to necessarily overload people with my esoteric examinings of the issue. But the fact
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  well that this is the central narrative and they protect it at all costs.
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  So it's likely he would have been fired. But again, because of the
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  situation in Twitter, he may have had more support. He would have gotten
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  maybe yeah, more support, or even like somebody else like Elon might have
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  given him a job for example, so like maybe he wouldn't have been as
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  armed by this would end up happening to him. I wonder, I don't
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  know, I you know what Karen Karen talked to him, maybe she could
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  follow up Karen had well, I could ask Karen if she has any information.
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  I could also take a look while you're continuing, all right, I'll
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  keep reading in the meantime. The vibe shift I'm talking about, Oh and
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  I already read that. Okay. Fundamentally, the vibe shift is a return
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  to or a championing championing of reality, a rejection of the bureaucratic, the
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  cowardly, the guilt driven, a return to greatness, courage, and joyous
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  ambition. It is best exemplified by this meme I made in my viral response
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  against Paul Graham's explanation for why young men are overwhelmingly more conservative and young women
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  overwhelming me more liberal. When he argued that this trend has a boringly obvious
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  explanation, basically, boys and girls don't spend as much time together anymore.
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  I took a different approach, though. Here's like, the blue line is
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  girls is going way up, and he put a quote around it saying things
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  are weird, but I don't want to offend anyone. And then the boy
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  line is going slightly down, which is towards I guess the right. I
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  put scare quotes on that. I'm done pretending, which you know what,
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  that makes perfect sense to me. I think that's what it is. I
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  think I think it's women that don't want to rock the boat, so they
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  go along with it, and men they are like, why are we doing
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  this? And so they're just being like And this guy, by the way
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  who wrote this is a zoomer. I'm pretty sure he's a zoomer. So
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  he is like seeing the thing that like the millennials don't you know, they
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  are essentially participating in and the exers don't seem to notice. So there is
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  that as a society, it's much easier to be Sorry, I didn't time
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  that right because I was struggling with the mute button, But I'm gonna lay
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  something on you. These lines represent, well, at least the red line
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  I think represents men's perception that the average woman will ever actually understand or love
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  him. That makes sense, Like it's the just the I'm giving up on
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  this. Yeah, I'm trying to appeal to women because they are making it
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  obvious that they have no interest and no desire for me or to appeal like
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  to. They have no interest or desire and recognizing any kind of social desirability
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  that I have any kind of approval granting men any kind of approval. I
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  mean, overwhelmingly, what I see from women, like in the mainstream or
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  even just a lot of what they say is that they don't give men the
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  impression at least, this is what I'm hearing, that they can appreciate a
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  man, or do appreciate men, or would ever even come to appreciate men,
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  Like do you get that sense? Overall? And as they get more
• 25:33
  and more to the left, it seems like that's getting stronger and stronger with
• 25:37
  women, you know, yeah, with women. Well, what I think
• 25:41
  I don't know about what's happening with women. I think that what's happening with
• 25:45
  men is it's actually not because they're looking for women's approval or love so much
• 25:52
  as I think that men, first and foremost they want to live in reality.
• 25:57
  Like before we even start, aren't like talking about dating women family,
• 26:02
  Like can we live in the same planet? You know, Like you have
• 26:06
  been talking about the supposed like political divide for like the past five years,
• 26:10
  it's actually a gender divide. This is what it looks like. It's women
• 26:14
  going absolutely insane and men going what are you doing? Not even going to
• 26:19
  to to conservative at all, but just sort of maintain no, well,
• 26:22
  yeah, I mean more or less like it's not particularly I don't even think
• 26:26
  it's conservative, because if you actually look at where they're at, it's basically
• 26:30
  just centrist. But my point is that I think that if men still felt
• 26:37
  like the juice was worth the squeeze, they probably would be going left with
• 26:40
  the women, because let's face it, yeah, they would just squeeze along
• 26:44
  with them, right, they would just if that be going left ment actually
• 26:48
  becoming genuinely attractive to women, I think a lot of men would would sign
• 26:52
  up for that, yeah, from what I can tell, And and they're
• 26:56
  not. And I think it's because women are overwhelming giving them in the impression
• 27:03
  that there is nothing a man can do to earn any kind of appreciation from
• 27:10
  what I'm seeing, Like if I were a man, that would be the
• 27:12
  impression I'm getting, So I would be starting to think to myself, is
• 27:17
  this thing that I want even possible? So I might as well just keep
• 27:22
  to my guns politically, And because it's not just that women are going really
• 27:27
  left. Men and women's political attitudes they were much more aligned. But it's
• 27:37
  like the what's driving the movement of women left is in many cases also the
• 27:48
  men oppressed women narratives. It's this idea that they need the government to exist
• 27:59
  within their own lives. Do you get what I'm saying. It's like,
• 28:02
  in every circumstance, you need the governments as a bodyguard against the men in
• 28:07
  your life. That's going to drive them towards more government intervention. It is
• 28:12
  going to drive them towards more government spending. You know, it's going to
• 28:18
  drive them into more controlled economy, the more controlled, more taxes, more
• 28:23
  services, because they need that. They feel like they need that, they
• 28:29
  need the government looking over their shoulder to make sure that the men in their
• 28:33
  lives or the men that are tangentially related to them don't harm them. Right,
• 28:37
  And it's that narrative of a pressure, Yeah, exactly right. And
• 28:44
  the more that they seem to be driven in there in that route, the
• 28:47
  more isolated, the more single like, the more single they become like,
• 28:51
  the more they don't get married, they don't get in relationships with men,
• 28:56
  And ultimately that means that the more they need the government and the more they
• 29:02
  do that, the more they have other drives that end up being unmet because
• 29:06
  a lot of these women don't want to be without children, but they're functionally
• 29:10
  going to be without children because many of them are not I would say stupid
• 29:15
  enough to even sign on to having a kid with money from the government.
• 29:18
  I don't want to say stupid, but it's like, that's a lot of
• 29:22
  work, even if you're getting money from the government to raise a child all
• 29:25
  on your own, unless you're completely neglectful, which I understand is an issue.
• 29:30
  But a lot of them don't want to do that. But they still
• 29:34
  they would want to have a child. They just don't have anyone to have
• 29:37
  a child with. So those instincts that desire that maternal Jerry I say,
• 29:42
  maternal instinct. Where does it go. It goes into all of this bizarre
• 29:48
  what I call Golden calf religions where women are taking care of these vulnerable groups
• 29:53
  in a political context, like the trans lobby, like the immigrants, like
• 30:00
  LGBTQ, you know, and they want to be able to protect those groups
• 30:06
  because they don't have infants to protect. Right, that's an instinct, you
• 30:11
  know that, that is an instinct that women have and it's got to go
• 30:15
  somewhere when they don't have any relationship and they're not actually having children. So
• 30:21
  the whole political landscape is basically a result of the dysfunction between men and women,
• 30:26
  which is what we talk about on here. And I know that this
• 30:29
  is a thing that can be considered very controversial, very good. Well,
• 30:33
  people can't see it yet, but I haven't read this whole thing. Maybe
• 30:37
  this guy does. But a lot of people are not ready for that.
• 30:40
  They're not They're not ready to have that conversation. It's still outside the Overton
• 30:44
  window. Even though I mean it right people people, I know people are
• 30:48
  starting to talk about it now. They're just starting to talk about it,
• 30:51
  and that's good. Like I said, that's what this is about. This
• 30:55
  is the vibe on this political map. You can see it. Men and
• 30:57
  women mostly, we mostly understanding each other politically, being in the same camps
• 31:03
  politically. Suddenly bam, complete divergence. And I would say that this is
• 31:10
  probably just something that was brewing under the surface that finally erupted. But anyway,
• 31:15
  Brian continue, I apologize. It as a society is much easier to
• 31:21
  be detached from reality if you're slashing around the sas casino of the twenty tens.
• 31:26
  I don't know what SaaS is where things are easy and you can generate
• 31:33
  life changing money by shipping the tenth note, taking app of the year,
• 31:37
  or posting on Instagram. It's much safer to keep your mouth shut about the
• 31:41
  current thing, no matter how insane, if the alternative is to have your
• 31:45
  life destroyed. But we do not live in either easy or safe time,
• 31:52
  and as the cultural, technical, and political stakes get higher, a stoical
• 31:56
  just keep your mouth shut attitude surprise just doesn't cut it. As Isaiah Berlin
• 32:02
  writes, this, this is a quote. This a cowardly retreat towards the
• 32:07
  inward. Is certainly what happened in ancient Greece when Alexander the Great began to
• 32:13
  destroy the city states, and the Stoics and the Epicureans began to preach a
• 32:17
  new morality of personal salvation, which took the form of saying that politics was
• 32:22
  unimportant, civil life was unimportant. All the great ideals held up by Pericles
• 32:29
  and by Demosthenes, by Plato and Aristotle were trivial and as nothing before the
• 32:35
  imperative need for personal individual salvation. End quote. Well, I think the
• 32:39
  Stoics had a lot more going on than that, But yeah, matthe he's
• 32:46
  using it as a as a Yeah, he's using it as an example.
• 32:50
  I think you can overdo that. Albatross gave us a super chat thank you
• 32:53
  for ten dollars, and says, whether they realize it or not, a
• 32:58
  lot of identity politics, et cetera, are anti hetero relationships. I've tried
• 33:01
  explaining this and some women have grudgingly agreed with me. Well, yeah,
• 33:07
  I think the purpose of those things is essentially the destruction of the family.
• 33:12
  So that's what I think. I see it everywhere. I mean, they'll
• 33:15
  distract you with like it being about blacks and stuff like that, but then
• 33:19
  when you look behind the curtain, it's like, oh, we disrupt the
• 33:22
  nuclear family. Oh okay, so you want us all to die? So,
• 33:27
  I mean they do. Like it's it always lands the same way.
• 33:30
  It's always like, well, we should just make fewer people. And it's
• 33:32
  like every issue, like you can pick it, you know, climate change,
• 33:38
  race politics, LGBTQ, transing the kids, the outcomes of all of
• 33:44
  these things, patriarchy, it's all like, oh, fewer humans. It's
• 33:49
  an anti human ideology no matter how you slice it. So and I mean,
• 33:52
  like we have to start by just accepting that's the reality. It doesn't
• 33:55
  mean that we don't like gay people. It doesn't mean that like that's the
• 34:00
  trick you get put on the back foot. Look, man, I'm not
• 34:02
  a homophobe. That's not the problem. That's not the problem. Man.
• 34:07
  It's like grooming children. It's castration as like a fetish, you know,
• 34:13
  it's like all this other shit that's like ending people's genetic line. That's the
• 34:17
  problem because the goal you know, you are the carbon they want to reduce
• 34:22
  is essentially what it boils down to. So we just have to understand that
• 34:25
  reality and separate it from whatever the accusations are and then just move from there
• 34:30
  because the accusations are intended again according to what this guy is saying, tell
• 34:37
  you to just keep your mouth shut and then you just let it happen and
• 34:42
  things just unfold. So anyway, yep, most folks in the tech and
• 34:46
  venture orbits are probably aware of the most salient example of the vibe shift in
• 34:52
  startups the happenings in the Gundo. The til deer on the Gundo is a
• 34:57
  bunch of bright, young, ultra ambitious dudes. Men in El Segundo,
• 35:00
  California have forsaken the quote don't rock the boat by saying what you believe and
• 35:06
  focus on hitting the SaaS Jackpot ethos of the twenty tens to twenty twenties Tillicom
• 35:13
  Valley and are instead on apologetically pro America, pro family values, openly religious,
• 35:20
  all of which they channel into challenging and important missions like manufacturing hydrocarbons out
• 35:24
  of thin air, making it rain where it doesn't, and more generally,
• 35:29
  rebuilding America. So, like one of the examples, there's like a link
• 35:31
  here, there's like this kid, this guy, this young guy that like
• 35:36
  found a way to make it rain, like to make it rain with technology,
• 35:40
  so that droughts in California would be essentially a thing of the past if
• 35:46
  it goes the way he wants. And the thing is is that this kind
• 35:51
  of technological advancement, what these guys are saying is because of this woke shit
• 35:55
  that we're embedded in. This guy couldn't do it because he's male or something,
• 36:00
  right, Like you can't be in this Like remember the dude who landed
• 36:04
  a fucking satellite on a comp Like, yeah, we talked like that.
• 36:07
  That's what I'm talking about. Like these things that he wore. Yeah,
• 36:12
  it came about to sure he wore exactly. Like these things that brilliant men
• 36:16
  far more intelligent than me can do are being stifled because they are men.
• 36:22
  And now these guys are like, you know what, why are we Why
• 36:24
  are we trying not to rock the boat? Like fuck this, Like we're
• 36:28
  gonna do what we're gonna do. And that's why I love this, because
• 36:30
  they say ultra ambitious dudes. They are instead unapologetically pro America is nothing to
• 36:37
  be ashamed of. Pro family values again. I like the human race,
• 36:42
  and I'd like it to continue. Openly religious again another thing you should be
• 36:45
  ashamed of, Like if he was Muslim, you wouldn't be able to say
• 36:47
  anything, all of which they channel into into challenging and important missions like manufacturing
• 36:57
  hardro hy hydrocarbons out of thin air, making it rain where it doesn't,
• 37:01
  and more generally, rebuilding America. Like if there's anybody that can like fix
• 37:06
  the mess we're in, it's guys like this, you know, like we're
• 37:09
  we're always everybody wants to go like America's done, the West is gonna die,
• 37:14
  it's all over. And yet we also champion men. Well guess what
• 37:17
  this is what men do. They fix shit, so they I think that's
• 37:21
  what this guy wants to do. He's like, why are we constantly like
• 37:24
  going all doom and gloom? That's what they want, you know, as
• 37:28
  the saying goes, if if it was really over, their propaganda would no
• 37:31
  longer be necessary. So this guy is saying he's giving the middle finger to
• 37:36
  these people, and he's like, let's let's rebuild. I got another superchow
• 37:42
  or super chat. I'm sorry, no superchow's yet from Zar and he says
• 37:46
  a SaaS equals software as a service for two dollars. Well, thank you,
• 37:52
  Zaran's. That's good to know. I didn't know that. Okay,
• 37:54
  cool, Yeah, I want to just get in here. So those of
• 37:58
  you who don't know, I think it was it wasn't called shirt gate,
• 38:01
  it was shirt storm. Essentially, there was scientist. I'm gonna get his
• 38:10
  name really quick. Oh god, I sorry, guys, I do not
• 38:16
  spell well under pressure. So this this guy actually landed a probe on an
• 38:27
  asteroid, which was an astounding feat yeat never before done. Matt Taylor is
• 38:34
  his name, and he had a shirt of pin ups like pin up art.
• 38:40
  During the news conference where this was discussed. It's it's important to note
• 38:46
  that it was a customer shirt made by a woman too. Yeah, it
• 38:50
  was made by his friend, which is why he was wearing it because it
• 38:53
  had value to him. And everybody ended up focusing on the shirt instead of
• 38:59
  the accomplish And what's astounding to me, it's like a human race makes gigantic
• 39:04
  step forward. Everybody talks about a shirt like seriously, and it's so demotivating.
• 39:12
  Like the guy ended up in tears and he had to apologize. I'm
• 39:16
  so sorry. I am one of the people who advanced the cause of the
• 39:21
  human race, but I managed to piss everyone off because of his name was
• 39:30
  his name was Matt Taylor. Yeah, boy Rose Eveleth was the individual who
• 39:37
  made the stink about his shirt, who wrote a big people about it.
• 39:40
  Yeah, there's all kinds of articles about the shirt now instead of about the
• 39:45
  actual incredible thing that he did for the cause of humanity. And it's like,
• 39:50
  I'm like looking at the shirt and it basically looks like the average maybe
• 39:53
  science fiction cover with like a hot cool chick on the you know what I
• 39:58
  mean. It's like, it's actually not it's not that sillacious, like it's
• 40:02
  it's not silacious at all, like I remember getting when I was a kid,
• 40:07
  I got a cover all I picked up a science fiction book was there
• 40:12
  was like this selbino woman in like a a leather bikini and this was less
• 40:16
  silacious. His shirt was less silatious than that. And that's on a cover
• 40:20
  of a book. Seriously. Yeah, it wasn't like a heavy metal magazine
• 40:24
  cover. Do you remember those oh yeah, cheese heavy metal magazine They weren't
• 40:30
  they Well I don't know if that magazine still exists, but I remember even
• 40:36
  those like they were suggestive, but they were obviously okay to put on the
• 40:38
  cover of a magazine. So all right, anyway back to the article,
• 40:45
  so uh be. But part of what's causing the vibe shift is that it
• 40:51
  goes well beyond the gundo. Indeed, no matter what circles you run in,
• 40:54
  almost everyone from AI accelerationists to techt bros to gun owners, the bitcoiners,
• 41:00
  to Christians to normal families to children who like math to American citizens is
• 41:07
  undergoing a variation of the same kind of pressure to conform, stagnate, and
• 41:10
  decelerate. Not only does the current thing demand total and unquestioning loyalty from all
• 41:17
  of these groups. But not even a year and a half ago, anyone
• 41:21
  willing to speak out could be barred from participating in the public square forever.
• 41:27
  It's true, and then Elon freed the bird. Get it, Twitter read
• 41:32
  the bird. As Mike o'lana recently wrote, quote for over excuse me,
• 41:37
  I'm like I had a rage scream earlier today and my throat's been a little
• 41:43
  like stripped. Mike the rage stream about. I'm curious, I don't remember
• 41:49
  it was. It was yeah, it was just like a yeah, as
• 41:55
  Mike s'lana recently wrote, quote, for over twenty years, it's been obvious
• 41:59
  the Internet doomed the twentieth century media oligopoly, but it took decades for a
• 42:04
  majority of Americans to move online, And in twenty sixteen, at precisely the
• 42:08
  moment, it seems, social media would replace the former order, an unofficial
• 42:13
  alliance of powers, refortified and eliteius hold on discourse. I wonder what happened
• 42:19
  in twenty sixteen that caused all of these media organizations to come together under the
• 42:22
  same banner. It boggles the mind. A year ago, Elon shattered that
• 42:28
  alliance, the thought criminals were freed, and the window of acceptable discourse broadened
• 42:32
  until it broke a total Overton collapse. Now, for better and for worse,
• 42:37
  there is no more curation. There are no more fake trends, there
• 42:40
  are no more Washington Post employed stake sock buppets propped up artificially, and there
• 42:46
  is no more political censorship. Yes, whatever Elon finds personally annoying tends to
• 42:52
  vanish rip substack links, and he's still not been tested by a major election.
• 42:58
  But for now, at least, new trends are dominated by stories people
• 43:01
  actually care about, even when they suck. This has never happened before,
• 43:07
  and so the phenomenon necessarily poses opportunity that has never before existed, end quote
• 43:14
  emphasis mind it is hard to overstate how much Elon's purchase of Twitter has accelerated
• 43:20
  and perhaps directly caused the vibe shift. The old ways of cutting and slicing
• 43:24
  the world have broken down, and now the most unexpected groups have found themselves
• 43:29
  as co belligerents in an existential war to preserve our ability to speak, compute,
• 43:35
  build worship, transact and live in peace, and thus cutting across communities
• 43:40
  and denominations and occupations and hobbies. We get to the vibe shift. So
• 43:45
  you see he's saying that this is happening across so like he himself, right,
• 43:51
  he's in tech, and he is openly patriotic about being American, and
• 43:55
  he's Christian, and he wants to start a family. He has a specific
• 44:00
  area that he operates him. But he is saying that this vibeeship is happening
• 44:04
  across everything for anyone who cares about these things as values, which is really
• 44:09
  all that really matters, right, And you can see this I mentioned Gamergate
• 44:15
  two, but you can also look at the fellowship, which is like the
• 44:19
  people who talk about like Tolkien work, the people that are involved in the
• 44:22
  kind of culture war when it comes to like TV and stuff, what do
• 44:27
  they call it, the fandom menace, the comic scape people, the people
• 44:32
  involved with Sweet Baby in Detected, like you know, all these people,
• 44:37
  Cabrutus Rambo, like he's just a normal guy. I had him on my
• 44:42
  show, I interviewed him. I still message him sometimes. He's just a
• 44:46
  guy from Brazil that wants to play video games and doesn't want to be preached
• 44:52
  at the whole time. And he just made a thing about it. This
• 44:54
  is what I'm talking about it. Like, I don't know what his politics
• 44:58
  are. I don't care. I care that we're like on the same page
• 45:01
  in what we are essentially rejecting, which is the ability for us to share
• 45:07
  in ideas because most likely, if he's like a healthy individual, we're probably
• 45:12
  gonna have a lot in common anyway, which we did when I talked to
• 45:15
  him, you know so, but I didn't ask him about, like what
• 45:19
  are the benefits to anarcho capitalism? Otherwise I'm gonna unfriend you, Like,
• 45:22
  No, why would I do that. That's stupid, you know what I
• 45:25
  mean. It's like, dude, you play video games? What kind of
• 45:28
  games do you like? So anyway, well, and I want to like,
• 45:31
  there's a there's also sort of an undercurrent of a lot of I think
• 45:36
  women are afraid that this is going to result in I don't know what,
• 45:39
  I'm being chained to the kitchen or something. Yeah, I wanted to point
• 45:45
  a few things out. Well, first of all, if you understand that
• 45:50
  men don't oppress women, you don't really fear stuff like that. Like,
• 45:55
  what men want is to be loved by women. That's it. They want
• 46:01
  to feel appreciated and respected but loved, you know. That's it. That's
• 46:07
  why they do a lot of what they do. And I mean tomorrow,
• 46:13
  all of this would end if women found it in themselves to actually appreciate men
• 46:21
  for what they are and none, No, there would have to be no
• 46:25
  collapse of society. There would have to be no forced getting women taking away
• 46:31
  women's bank accounts and jobs, which you are actually ridiculous. And I could
• 46:35
  tell you why, and I'll explain why in a bit, but there'd be
• 46:37
  none of that. There'd be none of that. That's it. That's all
• 46:43
  that has to happen. Women have to let go of this fear of men,
• 46:46
  this suspicion of men's intentions. And if this happened, we would be
• 46:53
  we would be flying off to Alpha Centauri like and there would be no,
• 46:58
  like I said, no need for women to give up their jobs, you
• 47:01
  know, no need for women to give up their education, no need for
• 47:06
  women to give up what they want to strive for. And in fact,
• 47:09
  that is not actually a biblical conception of womanhood. Go actually read the Bible.
• 47:17
  You know, a woman is supposed to be industrious, she's supposed to
• 47:21
  manage finance as well. She's supposed to buy and sell. But the thing
• 47:25
  is, the essential foundational thing of all of it is that she is supposed
• 47:30
  to do it for the benefit of her family. That's it, that's family
• 47:34
  values. Women don't have to they don't have to get rid of their ambitions,
• 47:39
  you know, they just have to recognize that there's something greater than necessarily
• 47:45
  just themselves. I think men do. And ultimately, like I said,
• 47:47
  if women love the men of this society, this society would be absolutely fine.
• 47:55
  You get what I'm saying, Brian, Yeah, there would be no
• 47:59
  problem. There would be no problem. If all the career women, you
• 48:04
  know, they love the men of this society, If all the homemakers love
• 48:07
  the men of this society, of all the nurses, all the teachers,
• 48:12
  you know, all of the kindergarten teachers, all of the all of the
• 48:15
  jobs that women, all the types of women actually love the men, you
• 48:20
  know, and maybe and maybe the lesbian women can just at least appreciate them
• 48:22
  as friends, you know, whatever, there would be no problem. There
• 48:27
  would be no there would be nothing, there would be none of these pressures.
• 48:31
  It would be fine. What do you think that men, You know,
• 48:35
  if women tomorrow like that. Let's imagine the female population of the West
• 48:40
  wakes up tomorrow and is like, you know, what I really need in
• 48:44
  my life is a man, because I appreciate how men they're, the way
• 48:47
  they think, how you know, their humor. That I just you know,
• 48:51
  maybe I just want somebody to open the pickle jars. I don't know
• 48:53
  if they woke up tomorrow and said that, what do you think is gonna
• 48:58
  happen? Ladies, like, do you think think that that's gonna happen?
• 49:00
  And then men are gonna be like, well, back to the back to
• 49:02
  the dungeons with you? Like what this is the insanity? I believe call
• 49:08
  those you call those the sandwich mines. Yep, to the sandwich mindes with
• 49:13
  you? That is like that. First of all, I have looked throughout
• 49:17
  history. There has been no point in human history where female industry and ambition
• 49:24
  didn't have an outlet. Okay, maybe it was in weaving or lace making
• 49:30
  or something else, or in creating salons and court changing the course of of
• 49:37
  science and art, you know, in the seventeen hundreds, but there was
• 49:40
  no place where women's ambition and their industry, you know, was completely denied.
• 49:45
  What do you think women did throughout history? They built, they maintained,
• 49:52
  and they supported like that, So that we're not that nobody is going
• 49:57
  back into a dungeon. It's never gonna happen. Even if the Amish takeover,
• 50:01
  that's not gonna happen. You think the Amish that they're women in a
• 50:05
  dungeon? Like seriously, like and this, this absolute pathological fear of what
• 50:13
  will men do is justifying all of this nonsense. It's justifying women's race to
• 50:19
  the left, it's justifying all of this government overreach. It's justifying all these
• 50:23
  angios pumping more toxic bullshit about the genders or the sexes sorry into into the
• 50:29
  atmosphere. It justifies all this media crap. What do they always do with
• 50:34
  everyone that they want to target? Oh, this person harasses women? Okay,
• 50:38
  this is this is this is what they do, and this is the
• 50:44
  narrative that empowers it. And like I said, we don't need it,
• 50:47
  like this is this is what's so funny. It's like I get into these
• 50:51
  arguments with guys and they're trying to convince me that I'm oppressed, and I'm
• 50:53
  like, no, dude, you never Men never oppressed women as women.
• 50:59
  I mean, yes, they depressed them along other vectors as women did to
• 51:01
  men, but not as women, not as their women. So whatever thing
• 51:07
  that you're telling me that you're trying to make me afraid and thus extort my
• 51:13
  compliance to a particular narrative, We'll screw you. I'm not going to live
• 51:16
  in fear, and I'm certainly not going to live in fear of men.
• 51:22
  And it's like that, it's you know, it's just a weight off your
• 51:24
  mind when you just step out of the entire the universe, this like slopsistic
• 51:30
  universe constructed by that statement that men oppress women. Just try it, Like
• 51:34
  if you're a woman listening and you don't believe that, just try thinking,
• 51:37
  Hey, what what if men didn't oppress women? Well, what would my
• 51:40
  life be like? Like if I thought that? Do you really think the
• 51:45
  instant like like men are waiting outside with a net in the bushes for the
• 51:49
  instant that you just let that go and then you walk out your door and
• 51:52
  they're god on to the sandwich mines, like women were still viewed as chattel.
• 51:59
  Okay, I want to read more of the article that's actually positive.
• 52:02
  Okay, So anyway, and thus cutting across communities and denominations and occupations and
• 52:10
  hobbies, we get to the vibe shift. The vibe shift looks like ditching
• 52:15
  childless civilizational nihilism yes, and saying yeah, having kids is good. Actually.
• 52:22
  The vibe shift is the repudiation of homogenizing hyperglobalism and instead intentionally pursuing the
• 52:29
  communal, the local, and the national. Whoa. The vibe shift is
• 52:34
  the rejection of reality denial and instead embracing that men and women are unique and
• 52:39
  different. Oh. The vibe shift is the refusal to subordinate yourself and your
• 52:45
  family to the whims and anxieties of activists and bureaucrats, and relearning to trust
• 52:52
  your eyes and ears excellent. The vibe shift is a rejection of secular liberal
• 52:58
  materialism and a return to Christian Christian foundations of the West. The vibe shift
• 53:04
  is taking off the ironic veil that aims to cover the festering wounds of despair
• 53:08
  and putting on the vestments of seriousness instead. The vibe shift is laughing at
• 53:15
  those trying to demo demonize men and cheerfully proclaiming dudes rock because they do.
• 53:22
  Yes. Time to be let's let's give Christianity. It's due women uh improved
• 53:37
  in status within Christianity, or at least you know, in many cases if
• 53:45
  you actually look at history, and it might also be just because Christianity encouraged
• 53:51
  or ended up encouraged a encouraging a peaceful sort of meleew that'll enabled more trade,
• 54:00
  okay, and in that trade and that surplus generally corresponds to more comfortable
• 54:08
  lives for women. But it's like, this idea that Christianity is so antithetical
• 54:15
  to the rights of women is a little ridiculous in my opinion. Well,
• 54:22
  I mean, I think the whole narrative about men oppressing women is a little
• 54:25
  ridiculous in my opinion, having looked at history and looked at the legal If
• 54:31
  it's not true under Islam, and it's not, then how can Yeah,
• 54:37
  I mean, like that's like the best argument that people could have and it
• 54:42
  still isn't correct. You know, yeah, I know, it's you know,
• 54:46
  yeah exactly. I mean, tribalism is crazy no matter where you go,
• 54:51
  and it's crazy towards men and women. But even in Islam, women
• 54:54
  are three times less likely to die violently. Yeah, they're protected, and
• 55:00
  they also live longer, which you know isn't just biological. And I was
• 55:05
  thinking, like I was reading and this is completely in a completely different subject
• 55:13
  than anything to do with this, but I was reading about how to essentially
• 55:19
  sell things to people, and this individual was talking about how these architects they
• 55:25
  were trying to construct a mall space, right, so basically a market space,
• 55:34
  and they were trying to construct one in and the comparison was between one
• 55:38
  in in Russia and one in Saudi Arabia, which is the dread monolith of
• 55:45
  women's oppression. And yet these architects, they didn't talk to men about what
• 55:52
  they wanted for this public market space. They talked to women. They were
• 55:59
  asking Saudi women how to construct this space in a way to make it appealing
• 56:05
  to them. Now does that really sound like, I mean, you don't
• 56:10
  go to why would they care what women think? You know, you don't
• 56:14
  like you don't go to the Antebellum South and then go to the you know,
• 56:16
  the black people in the field and say, well, what kind of
• 56:21
  color walls would you like in the gathering place of your society. That doesn't
• 56:28
  happen. Okay, they don't invest that much money in the opinions of people
• 56:34
  they don't care about, and it's just one anecdote, and it's like,
• 56:37
  yeah, this is not this is not the way you think it is.
• 56:42
  Men in authority doesn't necessarily mean women oppressed. And when I say that,
• 56:46
  people are like, oh, you're a conservative. I'm not. I don't
• 56:51
  care how people structure their lives. I just don't like the lie. Right,
• 56:57
  I don't care if you are, if you're a house husband, to
• 57:00
  like a high powered career, I don't care. I just don't like the
• 57:05
  lie. I don't like the lie that men oppress women or the statement.
• 57:12
  And I see this that the basic idea in feminism that men in authority equals
• 57:20
  women is oppressed. I don't like the fact that that's never been falsified,
• 57:23
  Like it's never been presented as something that can be falsified. And incidentally,
• 57:28
  it's very easy. It's an if then statement. If men in authority,
• 57:31
  then women oppressed. That's the if then statement. And you can falsify that
• 57:36
  because you can look at the situation of men when men are in authority,
• 57:38
  and you can look at the situation of women when men are authority, and
• 57:42
  if the situation of men is worse. Then obviously it's not oppressing women,
• 57:46
  it's doing something else. Because humans are very, very psychologically complicated. It
• 57:52
  doesn't just mean people being in power, doesn't just mean that they're lording it.
• 57:57
  Oh, we aren't gimps or bona bos. We have this unique psychology.
• 58:02
  For example, there is this test that they've done with it's really interesting.
• 58:09
  It's it's essentially you you show a video and it has use these sort
• 58:15
  of abstract shapes, and you'll have one shape and you'll have a helper shape
• 58:20
  and a hinderer shape. So I don't know the the the the helper shape
• 58:24
  will be shape will be like a triangle, and the hinderer shape will be
• 58:28
  a square or something. And you will show the main shape being helped by
• 58:31
  the triangle and hindered by the square. Now, when you show that to
• 58:37
  human infants, the human infants will express a preference for the shape that helps
• 58:45
  by the aid by six months, okay, six months, great apes,
• 58:52
  don't They overwhelmingly bonabos and chimps show a preference for the shape that hinders because
• 59:02
  they're fucking suck ups. They suck up to the dominant, dominant entity,
• 59:09
  the dominant ape who can force their will on everyone else. They don't understand
• 59:16
  the concept of justice, mercy, and compassion. It's completely foreign to them,
• 59:23
  right, so they just want to suck up to the guy who forces
• 59:27
  can enforce his will onto everyone else. Humans are not like that. We're
• 59:30
  fundamentally not like that. And interestingly, dogs in some cases are like us.
• 59:37
  They prefer the shape that helps if and this is the this is the
• 59:43
  caveat if they've spent a lot of time being trained by humans. So if
• 59:46
  they've interacted with humans a lot in training. So there you go, like,
• 59:52
  it isn't a situation. It isn't a clear cut situation of oh,
• 59:55
  this human being is in power, therefore they are going to oppress everyone around
• 1:00:01
  them. It's not the case. It's not the way that we're wired.
• 1:00:06
  In many cases, and exempt like psychopaths who just use this particular mechanism.
• 1:00:10
  In many cases, the people who are in power actually want to protect and
• 1:00:16
  provide for those they have power over. That's more of a human thing,
• 1:00:22
  and it's written into our psychology right that we prefer that. And I'm going
• 1:00:28
  to use an example that was on my mind again, the CEOs, the
• 1:00:31
  c suite, the men in the c suite during the nine to eleven the
• 1:00:36
  towers than the men in the c suite tower of the South Tower, they
• 1:00:40
  saw what happened to the North tower, and many of them actually contradicted the
• 1:00:45
  building authority to tell the people under them, mostly like women middle management,
• 1:00:52
  to get out of the building. And they stayed to help them get out.
• 1:00:55
  Many of them died doing that. These are the freaking sea squit everybody's
• 1:01:00
  every the ones that the men that everyone hates, right, the big high
• 1:01:04
  powered executives they put that they laid down their lives to save the secretaries,
• 1:01:09
  the accountants, you know, the pr people. You know they that's what
• 1:01:15
  they did. We have an absolutely distorted view of humanity. It is anti
• 1:01:22
  human to believe that just because a group of people is in power, they
• 1:01:29
  automatically oppress those they have power over. That is not the case. It
• 1:01:34
  is not the case, and that is why we are are one of the
• 1:01:37
  most well the most successful creature on the planet. Okay, and that was
• 1:01:43
  a long aside, but I think it's a positive one, isn't it.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah? Hello, yeah, I'm here. Can you hear me? You
• 1:01:52
  come back here? You get back to Uh well, I want to yeah,
• 1:01:55
  I want to get through the article, but I mean it's not super
• 1:01:59
  long, like I were more than halfway through. But let's okay, let
• 1:02:02
  me continue. So the vibe Shift is laughing at those trying to demonize men
• 1:02:07
  and cheerfully proclaiming dudes rock and I think to cheerfully proclaim it is I think
• 1:02:13
  that you have to smile in the face of it, and it really pisses
• 1:02:16
  them off. The vibe Shift is spurning the fake in therapeutic and reclaiming the
• 1:02:22
  authentic and concrete. The vibe Shift is a healthy suspicion of credentialism and a
• 1:02:28
  return to human judgment. Ooh, I like that too. That also gets
• 1:02:31
  a yes from me. Hold on, alright, alright, all right.
• 1:02:37
  The vibe Shift is living not by lies and instead speaking the truth, whatever
• 1:02:42
  the cost. The vibe Shift is directly facing our tumultuous times, refusing to
• 1:02:47
  blackpill and choosing to build in bed. There is no denying that. Whatever
• 1:02:52
  else. The vibe Shift is an electric time. After all, things hidden
• 1:02:57
  before the foundation of the world are being read discovered, and things thought to
• 1:03:00
  last until the end of time are crumbling at hypersonic speed. It is also
• 1:03:07
  a time fraught with opportunities for new disruptive technology. It doesn't surprise me that
• 1:03:12
  as we enter what could very well be the most volatile political and cultural period
• 1:03:17
  in recent American history, we're also seeing some of the boldest bets of the
• 1:03:22
  last few decades. The printing press emerged, as if by chance, amid
• 1:03:27
  the most apocalyptic geopolitical and cultural rearrangement of Europe since the Great Schism of ten
• 1:03:31
  fifty four, and a time charged with explosive tension excuse for violent conflict,
• 1:03:37
  a new technology gave the reformers a strategic, non coercive lever against the status
• 1:03:42
  quo, with various historians almost single handily crediting the success of the Protestant Reformation
• 1:03:47
  to such a device. Those who are home. The age of American westward
• 1:03:52
  expansion accelerated with the aid of technologies, a frontier itself inspired from eighteen thirty
• 1:03:58
  to eighteen ninety five, the photograph, telegraph and the rotary power printer,
• 1:04:01
  the typewriter, the transatlantic cable, the telephone, the motion picture, wireless
• 1:04:06
  signals, and other now ubiquitous technologies emerge to help advanced civilization past a kind
• 1:04:14
  of topographic political gridlock and into a new era of possibility and abundance. Fundamentally,
• 1:04:19
  the vibe shift is a time for real courage. Like Tim O'Brien's main
• 1:04:24
  character in On the Rainy River, we've indulged in cowardice for too long.
• 1:04:28
  And I think there's a quote from that book. But do you want to
• 1:04:30
  say anything before I keep going, No, yeah, no, what I
• 1:04:36
  know? It's it's it's interesting like this is it is good to see people
• 1:04:41
  building. I think something critical is that we need new stories too, to
• 1:04:45
  sort of try to explain and understand ourselves with this new technology. And uh,
• 1:04:54
  go ahead, Okay, No, no, I was gonna keep going.
• 1:04:58
  Nope, I'm good, all right, all right, So here's a
• 1:05:00
  quote from I guess this book, this book On the Rainy River. Well,
• 1:05:04
  all of us, I suppose like to believe that in a moral emergency,
• 1:05:09
  we will behave like the heroes of our youth, bravely, excuse me,
• 1:05:13
  bravely and forthrightly about thought of personal loss or credit. Certainly, that
• 1:05:17
  was my conviction back in the summer of it. If the stakes ever became
• 1:05:23
  high enough, if the evil were evil enough, if the good were good
• 1:05:26
  enough, I would simply tap a secret reservoir of courage that had been accumulating
• 1:05:30
  inside meal. Courage, I seem to think, comes to us in finite
• 1:05:35
  quantity, like an inheritance, and by being frugal and stashing it away and
• 1:05:41
  learning and letting it earn interest, we steadily increase our moral capital in preparation
• 1:05:46
  for what for that day when the account must be drawn down. It was
• 1:05:50
  a comforting theory. It dispensed with all those bothersome little acts of daily courage.
• 1:05:57
  It offered hope and grace to the repetitive cow. It justified the past
• 1:06:00
  while amortizing the future, whether through self immolation or disruption from technologies like AI.
• 1:06:10
  The old world of ivy league diplomas and a carefully curated color inside the
• 1:06:14
  lines public image is passing away. In the new world, Things like courage,
• 1:06:18
  things that cannot be faked, things that are really real, are perhaps
• 1:06:24
  for a moment, proof of credibility for those who are actively and explicitly building
• 1:06:29
  amid our decline and eager to leave a better future for our children's children.
• 1:06:33
  How long is this vibe shift? How long this vibe shift lasts remains to
• 1:06:38
  be seen. It may be fleeting, though I hope it sticks around.
• 1:06:43
  However long it lasts, we must steward it. And so I leave you
• 1:06:46
  with the words of Nehemiah to the Israelites as they face opposition and threats from
• 1:06:53
  surrounding adversaries who sought to deter them from rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem. Quote
• 1:06:58
  and I looked and rose up and said, unto the nobles and to the
• 1:07:00
  rulers, and to the rest of the people, be not ye afraid of
• 1:07:04
  them. Remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for
• 1:07:08
  your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your
• 1:07:11
  houses. And the article got some references, but so, okay, so
• 1:07:23
  the language gets a bit religious. See, but if you look at it,
• 1:07:26
  he is not saying that this is something only for people of faith.
• 1:07:30
  He's saying that essentially, he's speaking to men. That's what I think is
• 1:07:34
  really happening here. And I think that that is true because it starts from
• 1:07:40
  right this suppose it divergence, and he's telling men to just you know,
• 1:07:46
  we have to we have to. Uh, we we can't like no one's
• 1:07:50
  gonna save us. We have to save ourselves eventually, right, and it's
• 1:07:56
  gonna take courage and I like this. I think this is like an appropriately
• 1:08:00
  manly things to say. It's well, it's manly. I will say that
• 1:08:09
  what we're dealing with right now is something that we have dealt with in the
• 1:08:14
  past throughout all of the human race, Like we are dealing with a psychological
• 1:08:18
  shift based on that's being forced by our technology. And they talk he talked
• 1:08:25
  about the printing press. I mean, you could probably even go further back
• 1:08:29
  in history and talk about other forms of like the situations with centralization, but
• 1:08:35
  and new ideas like the alphabet, if you want to go far enough back.
• 1:08:41
  So these these these these technology, specifically the technology and how we communicate.
• 1:08:45
  Changes and how we communicate necessitate evolutions in how we relate. And we
• 1:08:53
  are right now struggling with trying to understand what love looks like in this with
• 1:09:00
  this technology, with this, with this particular form of how we can speak
• 1:09:05
  to each other, these mediums of how we speak to each other. And
• 1:09:09
  that's that's what it is. And it will mean that we do something new.
• 1:09:15
  It will mean that we evolve and that we have to be brave in
• 1:09:17
  doing so. But we're going to do it because that's what humans do.
• 1:09:24
  We take these issues and we overcome them, We figure out a way.
• 1:09:28
  So I can tell you, like anybody who's listening, we are going to
• 1:09:30
  figure this out. I guarantee it. We are men and women are going
• 1:09:35
  to figure out how to love each other again in this melee, in this
• 1:09:42
  technological MELEEU with these forms of communication, it may end up that women have
• 1:09:48
  to take some responsibility and look deep inside themselves to truly discover what they want
• 1:09:56
  as an individual, rather than just acting out fear and avarice, right to
• 1:10:05
  truly discover themselves, which is what they've always wanted. This is the thing
• 1:10:11
  like since the beginning, it's what beat it. Betty for Dan called then
• 1:10:14
  the problem with no name, which is this feeling like there is no purpose,
• 1:10:19
  you know. And I think women have to discover that their purpose is
• 1:10:25
  to love men. And I'm not saying that men's purpose isn't to love women
• 1:10:30
  and that it's their only exclusive purpose, but this is a huge part of
• 1:10:34
  what makes us who we are, you know. And I can see that
• 1:10:39
  there's a lot of men struggling there because they feel like there's no chance for
• 1:10:43
  them to be loved by a woman. And then women encourage this attitude,
• 1:10:48
  and I don't know why, because what do you think your life? What
• 1:10:54
  is the worth of your life except that the people accept the people that you've
• 1:10:59
  loved. Is there any other worth to it at the end of the day,
• 1:11:02
  you know? And that's that's what I'm saying, That's what I believe
• 1:11:04
  that we will figure it out. We will figure it out eventually. I
• 1:11:10
  don't know how painful it's going to be going through that because women seem to
• 1:11:14
  be very stubborn. I'm not exactly sure why a career and material goods are
• 1:11:20
  have such a thrall over them when honestly, what matters is who you love,
• 1:11:30
  you know, and who you've taken the effort to understand. Because in
• 1:11:34
  doing that, taking the effort to understand another person, you understand yourself.
• 1:11:39
  You become even more in yourself. So that's what I have to say about
• 1:11:44
  this. I think it's a it's a great white pill. It's great to
• 1:11:45
  see that, you know, they're building. I hope that, uh,
• 1:11:50
  I hope I hope that women start to wake up to this, like and
• 1:11:55
  start to understand that this is ridiculous. Like I honestly don't I'm not as
• 1:12:00
  black pilled because when I look at the dive to the left, what I
• 1:12:06
  see is that women are seeking something, to have a feeling of piety from
• 1:12:14
  something, some standard, to submit to, something that gives them a sense
• 1:12:18
  that their actions matter. So they're obviously hungry for something. It's sort of
• 1:12:24
  dysfunctional what they're going after, but it means that they're not complete. They
• 1:12:29
  don't feel complete in and of themselves. They don't feel complete on a pedestal.
• 1:12:32
  They still need to be in service to something, and it's something at
• 1:12:36
  the top. At some point, I think there has to be a point
• 1:12:42
  at which they burn through every possible minority and realize, oh hey, wait,
• 1:12:46
  maybe what I'm here on this earth to understand is men. Right,
• 1:12:50
  Maybe that's who I need to understand, and maybe that's who I need to
• 1:12:56
  love and cherish. And then, you know what, our civilized will be
• 1:13:00
  off to the races. Okay, we'll just we'll just start anew Okay,
• 1:13:05
  that's pretty much all I had to say. Uh, Okay, I do
• 1:13:10
  have a thank you, and I think we have a super channel. We
• 1:13:13
  have a thank you. Wait did we start this perfect? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:13:18
  Brian, I said this at the beginning. I started it early I
• 1:13:23
  know it was a little early because we did that response last Friday, and
• 1:13:30
  it was a requested response, so he had to have a fundraiser to support
• 1:13:35
  because the request was in thank you for a pledge, right, yeah,
• 1:13:41
  I had to hear it early, all right, So but I do have
• 1:13:44
  another thank you to give. Richard Bierre gives us one hundred dollars. So
• 1:13:47
  thank you, Richard, Thank you, Richard. Let me play something for
• 1:13:51
  you. Alright, alright, all right, I don't know if he's still
• 1:13:56
  maybe he wanted the way. Okay, that's a good one. Yeah,
• 1:14:06
  all right, anyway, go ahead. Yeah, we also have a super
• 1:14:10
  chow which is going to be interesting to address, but let's do it.
• 1:14:16
  Uh super chow. Oh yeah, I did see that. Let me put
• 1:14:20
  it up on the screen here. Maddie former feminist bot or Maddie former feminists
• 1:14:26
  not but that's the word. Gives us twenty five dollars. Thank you,
• 1:14:30
  Maddie, and says how did Maddie former mra even become a badger in the
• 1:14:35
  first place? I always got feminist men are terrible. Women are their victims?
• 1:14:40
  Vice from her enjoyed seeing her spats with him recently. I haven't will
• 1:14:45
  we been part of that. We we sort of did some shows with her,
• 1:14:49
  and Elizabeth Hobson called them badger bells. I'm not sure where Elizabeth Hobson
• 1:14:55
  is at this point, but I'm friends with her on Facebook, but I
• 1:14:58
  haven't heard from her. Yeah, she might be just deep in her own
• 1:15:01
  life right now. But essentially they were interested in like Philip Davies I believe
• 1:15:08
  was a UK member of Parliament. Yeah, and she was really like a
• 1:15:13
  fan of him, and she did some work with the Men's Issues group in
• 1:15:19
  the UK that's headed Oh god, I'm missing all of the names. Sorry,
• 1:15:26
  but that's how we sort of ended up talking to her. I never
• 1:15:30
  really knew her very well, and I don't think she knows me at all,
• 1:15:33
  because her condemnation of me seems to be that I'm hyper focused, and
• 1:15:40
  if anything, a hyper focused on like with like a microscope on one thing.
• 1:15:45
  And if anything, my problem is that I look at things from an
• 1:15:48
  altitude of like a suborbital altitude, which people just don't understand sometimes. And
• 1:15:56
  I'm not saying that I'm like big brain. It's just the way I think.
• 1:16:00
  And it makes me frustrated because I feel like I can't expect Alison.
• 1:16:03
  Alison's still kind of outside the overtun for me, even Natty. I think
• 1:16:09
  that it seems well, it seems to me that, like Natty, something
• 1:16:15
  changed after koof and the all of the stuff that happened around it, especially
• 1:16:23
  in the UK, and after that, she's been like hyper aware of like
• 1:16:28
  all kinds of like government overread and it's I think it's put her in a
• 1:16:34
  pretty bad position. I'm not saying that it's irrational. I don't know.
• 1:16:40
  I haven't talked to her much. I just talked to her once. She
• 1:16:43
  seems to be really concerned about some kind of like conservative backlash, and she
• 1:16:48
  talks a lot about men in the manisphere or the men's movement that are scapegoating
• 1:16:56
  women too much. And I think that for the record, I just want
• 1:17:00
  to say so so that she doesn't because I think the way people perceive things
• 1:17:04
  can be deceptive compared to how things are. So I'll just say, yeah,
• 1:17:08
  men can be evil sometimes, and I think that we all, do
• 1:17:12
  you guys agree that men can be evil sometimes? Can we all? Can
• 1:17:15
  we all agree? Like there is no go ahead, go ahead, It
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  doesn't really doesn't really bear saying like yes, sometimes yeah, I know,
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  but I feel like because we're not saying it, that means yeah, being
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  permissive. You know. It's like, why do why do people often say
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  men's rights activists are just like feminists are making and not to be the victims
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  of everything, And it's like, no, that's not the same, not
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  just because of the power and funding that we don't have, but also because
• 1:17:45
  we're our narratives are not the same. Yeah, I mean, I don't.
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  I don't think that men are oppressed by history any more than women were.
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  I think there are trade offs on either side. But just to say
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  to this particular situation and that, like, for example, a while back,
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  I got into a brief bit got into it a bit with I think
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  a red pillar who was talking about how it's justified for men to cheat but
• 1:18:15
  not women, and I'm like, I think you'll find that that's not really
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  acceptable within the Christian framework. I'm sorry, like it's not to be a
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  Christian. I think they were. But but the other thing is that the
• 1:18:29
  return to traditional values isn't a license for men to do whatever they want.
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  And it never was, like it just isn't. No, men have to
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  uphold a moral standard as well. It's just a recognition that men are the
• 1:18:45
  moral head of the household. That doesn't mean that women are worthless in fact,
• 1:18:53
  shell while he may be the moral head of the household, she apparently
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  is the value proposition, Like you know, he's he's the uh the she's
• 1:19:03
  the payload. He's the shroud like sort of thing. So I mean,
• 1:19:08
  it's it's it's a it's a balance. And if you want to return to
• 1:19:12
  traditionalism yet, you're you're gonna have to strip a lot out of your life,
• 1:19:15
  like pornography and that other stuff that isn't really acceptable in that lifestyle.
• 1:19:23
  Otherwise it isn't really And here's the big kicker. If men really want to
• 1:19:28
  return to a traditional lifestyle, this idea of and this is this is this
• 1:19:31
  is me out of the Overton Like this is me sprinting out of the Overton
• 1:19:35
  window when I say this. The idea of taking an identity, taking pride
• 1:19:42
  in any aspect of your genital urges is not Christian as far as I can
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  tell. You take if you take pride, which is probably not a good
• 1:19:49
  idea, but whatever it is, in using your sexuality and service with your
• 1:19:55
  community, your your family, your relationshi ship, you know, with your
• 1:20:01
  partner. It's not like taking pride in having adulterous urges, you know.
• 1:20:09
  So this is this is a lot of self questioning that you have to go
• 1:20:12
  through, and it's a it's a it's a big standard. It's a big
• 1:20:15
  ask for men and women. I think that people sort of forget that.
• 1:20:21
  And I'm and I'm not saying it's a bad thing, because maybe we do
• 1:20:25
  need people who are recognized that, you know, that they have a profound,
• 1:20:31
  a profound responsibility to their neighbor and to the people that they are responsible
• 1:20:36
  for. You know, maybe that maybe getting back to that is but it's
• 1:20:40
  not. It's like, I don't understand why, Oh, we're going to
• 1:20:43
  go to the Handmaiden's Tale. The Handmaiden's Tale was not Christian I'm sorry story.
• 1:20:50
  Not only was the original story distorted by Margaret Atwood because the original story
• 1:20:55
  was about how this poor like you sort of feel for Jacob because it starts
• 1:21:00
  out that he falls in love with a woman and then her the woman's father,
• 1:21:05
  arranges with the woman's ugly sister to essentially get him so drunk he doesn't
• 1:21:12
  know who he's having sex with, and then he's forced to marry her and
• 1:21:15
  then it just goes downhill from there. And it's like, I don't know
• 1:21:18
  how Margaret Atwood got a exploitation of women's sexuality out of that. That was
• 1:21:24
  amazing to me. But it's the Handmaiden's tale is a distortion of the actual
• 1:21:29
  biblical story. And also that's not traditional Christian values in the first place.
• 1:21:35
  I'm pretty sure monogamy was, you know, that's the thing, right,
• 1:21:40
  it's not, yeah, chastity, but like I think we're getting into the
• 1:21:45
  weeds a little bit. Yeah, we're getting into the weeds. The Old
• 1:21:47
  Testament is like, that's that's Old Testament stuff, and it's not that it's
• 1:21:51
  out of date, but like the New Covenant under Christianity is it's his own
• 1:21:57
  separate set of rules that sort of like you could say it overwrites, but
• 1:22:01
  it kind of adds to awe of Anyway, Richard Bierre gave us a super
• 1:22:06
  child. Thank you, Richard, and he says four or five dollars.
• 1:22:12
  I have heard that Elizabeth Hobson might be working as a career for elderly people.
• 1:22:16
  Let's get this fundraising thing effort completed that Alison doesn't have to take a
• 1:22:21
  waitressing job. Thank you for that, Richard. Yeah, it'd be good
• 1:22:27
  to be able to keep doing this. Urkhid appreciate it. I think the
• 1:22:30
  vibe shift is real. I am here for it. I am glad because
• 1:22:34
  look, we have like two choices, right, we either like fall into
• 1:22:38
  despair, which a lot of people are doing, or we you know,
• 1:22:42
  get off our ass and we fight. Like hell, I mean, it's
• 1:22:45
  either we we die on our knees or we die on our feet. So
• 1:22:47
  we might as well die on our feet. So that's what I say.
• 1:22:50
  And I think this is like the most like encouraging things as a man that
• 1:22:58
  I could feel. It's like, yeah, like you know, let's and
• 1:23:00
  and also want to see Bill, Yeah, Bill, what you want to
• 1:23:03
  see, but also like be okay with like you know, reach reaching out
• 1:23:08
  like I when I first read this, I thought, you know, I
• 1:23:11
  should email like every single person, like whether they are like on the internet,
• 1:23:16
  whether they write blogs or they make videos or they're involved with the culture
• 1:23:20
  stuff or whatever, and all of them, I say, let's all help
• 1:23:25
  each other build something like whatever it is we're doing, whether that's new media,
• 1:23:30
  new stories like you know too, because like rebuilding the culture or new
• 1:23:33
  technologies or new ways of community because these like we have like the DHS watching
• 1:23:40
  this right high DHS. They're watching this stream right now because they're like they
• 1:23:45
  want to control us right there. They don't want especially men coming together and
• 1:23:51
  forming their own networks. That is the most frightening thing for them. So
• 1:23:57
  well, you know, own system of value outside of let's face it,
• 1:24:00
  fed bucks. Yeah, like as simple as that. They just don't want
• 1:24:05
  men to start devising a means of valuing themselves that doesn't involve fiat. I
• 1:24:12
  know. Okay, I'm again, I'm sprinting out of the overtime. All
• 1:24:15
  right, No, we should. We should bring it home and just I
• 1:24:20
  mean ultimately I would First of all, I would take I would make a
• 1:24:24
  terrible waitress, So maybe I should do it so I learned to be more
• 1:24:27
  personable and uh whatever would pass for charming that I could manage, you know
• 1:24:35
  what I mean. Like, I don't know if it would be charming exactly.
• 1:24:40
  It might be a little bit frightening. But anyway, I think that
• 1:24:45
  we're I think there's hope, there's definitely hope. I think that we need
• 1:24:48
  to build what we want to see. I think creatives are an essential part
• 1:24:53
  of this. I wanted to say that there was an addendum to the mouse
• 1:24:57
  utopia uh experiment. If you guys haven't heard about that, it was an
• 1:25:01
  experiment in which mice were given everything they could possibly want, and within I
• 1:25:08
  think like three quarters of a year, their population crashed and died off because
• 1:25:15
  certain aspects of strife apparently kept them breeding. And what basically what happened is
• 1:25:20
  that the males they lost their way, I think is the best way to
• 1:25:27
  look at it. They lost a purpose. The male mice lost a purpose,
• 1:25:31
  and then it just sort of snowballed from there. And then you had
• 1:25:35
  these female mice that just lived in isolation and it did not engage with any
• 1:25:41
  kind of family formation. You had male mice that did nothing but just sort
• 1:25:45
  of groomed themselves and I think maybe socialized with each other and eat and sleep,
• 1:25:53
  and then the whole breeding colony collapse. Because what it sounds like is
• 1:25:58
  that the male mice lost their role in terms of territory defense over the resources.
• 1:26:04
  And but what we don't know what what what what you people don't know
• 1:26:10
  is that there was an addendum to that. So what the researcher did who
• 1:26:15
  created the mouse utopia did is he created additional mice utopia, except he focused
• 1:26:20
  on giving the mice creative outlets and that apparently helped kept them breeding. So
• 1:26:31
  even when everything seems like really hopeless, there is something, there is something,
• 1:26:40
  There is a bit of hope there that even if you know, we
• 1:26:44
  we lose what we have now in terms of how we define ourselves in terms
• 1:26:48
  of men's role, there's always the possibility that there's something really great just around
• 1:26:55
  the corner when it comes to finding purpose is what I'm getting at, And
• 1:27:00
  I think that's I think that's worth you know, keeping on for and figuring
• 1:27:03
  out too. I mean, if you're if you're a guy who's who's creative,
• 1:27:08
  like really really explore that because it sounds like that that may be the
• 1:27:12
  future creativity, storytelling, creating art. And I know AI is is this
• 1:27:17
  a big looming threat, But I've worked with Ai a bit. AI is
• 1:27:21
  terrible at telling stories. By the way, guys, it really is is
• 1:27:27
  that all of our shows and movies are based on that. Right now,
• 1:27:31
  I think all of like I saw, speaking of Ai, I saw like
• 1:27:36
  a thread somebody screenshotted of a conversation on Twitter x about like some new Star
• 1:27:45
  Wars game that Ubisoft is putting out, and the people engaged in this conversation
• 1:27:49
  are obviously like it's chat GPT talking to itself. You can, like just
• 1:27:57
  the way that it's around was like, dude, this is so fake.
• 1:28:00
  Like there's so many bots on Twitter that are like working for like these big,
• 1:28:04
  like woke companies. Right, I guess you know what I'd rather have.
• 1:28:09
  I I kind of would rather have chat GPT like talking on Twitter than
• 1:28:13
  like one of the activists. But after a while, they're not going to
• 1:28:15
  be that much different from each other because I think it's training on itself,
• 1:28:21
  like it's as anyway itself. Yeah, that's the other thing. It's like
• 1:28:28
  referential. Yeah. AI after a few generations, after feeding on itself for
• 1:28:33
  a few generations, stops producing anything of value. It needs human creativity.
• 1:28:43
  Okay, it has a limited amount of generational cycles before it just ceases to
• 1:28:49
  create anything that's really worth anything. What if essentially happens is it starts to
• 1:28:56
  converge on a single image. So it's like this this monolith, And I
• 1:29:03
  mean people need to realize that, like we are, there's something about us
• 1:29:09
  that's I don't know. It's like a spark and it's maybe it's divine.
• 1:29:15
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• 1:29:20
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• 1:30:05
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• 1:30:13
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• 1:30:18
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