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Missing young vet mother, beloved spouse speak out · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x Him Triumph
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Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. Chase Master is in a rock
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Speaker 1: War veteran, a husband, a father. His wife told us
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Speaker 1: she dropped him off at a quick trip in Cobtown.
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Speaker 1: His family says he was last seen at a friend's
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Speaker 1: house in Kennesaw three years ago. It's like he vanished
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Speaker 1: from that home, not to be seen or heard from again.
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Speaker 1: Despite some intense searching, a few clues have been found.
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Speaker 1: We have absolutely no answers at all Star trying to
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Speaker 1: determine if remains found in the backyard of those of
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Speaker 1: an army veteran who has been missing out for three years.
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Speaker 1: This is the home where three years ago, twenty six
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Speaker 1: year old Chase Master was last seen. The search continuous
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Speaker 1: from man wanted in connection with the disappearance and now
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Speaker 1: death of a young Cobb County father and veteran. But
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Speaker 1: it was the last person to see Master alive, and
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Speaker 1: he is now charged with concealing a death. You have
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Speaker 1: to question why somebody would make the decision all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden to run. Imagine your son, you have raised
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Speaker 1: the apple of your eye. You pour all of your love,
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Speaker 1: all of your hopes all of your dreams into him.
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Speaker 1: You watch him grow up and become a man, You
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Speaker 1: watch him fall in love and marry and have children,
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Speaker 1: and then be sent away to Iraq to fight for
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Speaker 1: his country and make it back safe and sound, only
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Speaker 1: to go missing, drop off the face of the earth,
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Speaker 1: totally off the map, off the grid. A son that
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Speaker 1: calls you two and three times a day and text
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Speaker 1: you routinely. You never hear from him again. He drives
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Speaker 1: out of your driveway one afternoon and then another word
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Speaker 1: is never heard. No doorbell, no knock at the door,
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Speaker 1: no text, no phone call, nothing. His birthday passes, Your birthday, passes,
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Speaker 1: mother Day, Christmas, they all pass by, and not a word.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's he Grace. This is Crime Stories, and
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Iraqi war hero Chase Masna. Joining me
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Speaker 1: right now is a special guest Channel forty six w CBS,
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Speaker 1: Daniel will Kerson. Daniel, I really don't think his mom
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Speaker 1: is ever going to get over this. Oh no, this
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Speaker 1: is her only child. And and even though she I
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Speaker 1: think she was married when when they had him, they
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Speaker 1: divorced and she lived with Chase by, you know, just
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Speaker 1: her and Chase for years and when I went into
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Speaker 1: you know, their house. She gave Chase the master bedroom.
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Speaker 1: That's how close they were. Daniel, do you remember the
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Speaker 1: first time we met with Chase's mom? Oh man, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't a dry I opened that door and she had
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Speaker 1: all of those photo albums of him laying at I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: dear Lord in Heaven, take a listen to this. Stephanie
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Speaker 1: Gadine is with me right now. Also with me is
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Speaker 1: Daniel Wilkerson from CBS forty six, who has also been
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Speaker 1: on the story, along with Alan Duke and our staff
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Speaker 1: Lee and others from crime Online. Where you're all here now,
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Speaker 1: and I wish you were here with us. We're all
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Speaker 1: gathered around a table. We're all sifting through bits and
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Speaker 1: pieces of evidence, trying to make some sense. Heads are
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Speaker 1: tails of where is Chase Master? You know we have
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Speaker 1: gone round and round and round like a dog chasing
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Speaker 1: its tail, and then when you catch it, you still
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Speaker 1: don't have anything. Can you take me back to the
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Speaker 1: day that Chase went missing? What happened? Chase was at
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Speaker 1: our house. He was staying with us for a few days,
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Speaker 1: and spoke with Amanda, his wife, on the phone. Now,
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Speaker 1: hold on, he's married with two little girls at this time,
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Speaker 1: two little little girls, but he and a man. He's
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Speaker 1: just come out of active duty. He's coming home and
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Speaker 1: he's having problems assimilating back into the regular civilian world. Okay,
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Speaker 1: A lot of people can identify with that. When I
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Speaker 1: came out of prosecuting crimes, I had a hard time
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Speaker 1: assimilating with regular people, So I can barely imagine what
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Speaker 1: he was going through. So he's fighting with Amanda, and
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Speaker 1: he came to stay at your house for a few days,
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Speaker 1: all right, Okay? Then what he had been with us
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Speaker 1: for three days, and he had the next two days
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Speaker 1: off work, and Amanda had asked him to go back
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Speaker 1: to their house for those two days. And she came
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Speaker 1: to pick him up from the house and they were
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Speaker 1: arguing already at the pickup, before even on the phone,
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Speaker 1: before the pickup. Why over what you know? I don't
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Speaker 1: was that money. I didn't know they were having problems
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Speaker 1: until Amanda ask me if Chase could come and spend
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Speaker 1: some time at our house so they could have space. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So he finally lands a job at Quick Trip. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I know. You don't grow up as a little boy thinking, hey,
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Speaker 1: one day I want to be a clerk at Quick Trip.
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Speaker 1: I get it, but he was having a hard time.
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Speaker 1: So landing that job and going to it on a
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Speaker 1: regular basis and assimilating was kind of a triumph, right, yes, Okay,
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Speaker 1: so they leave together. Where were the babies? The girls
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Speaker 1: in the car? Okay? Then what happens? And what day
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Speaker 1: is that? March three? All right? Then what happens? And
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Speaker 1: what time of the day was that? It was in
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Speaker 1: the evening, early evening. I'm thinking six in the evening. Okay,
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Speaker 1: he leaves. When did you hear from him next? Never?
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Speaker 1: That was it? When he left? What do you remember
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Speaker 1: about him leaving? What little thing do you remember? He
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Speaker 1: was just so frustrated that that's the only word I
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Speaker 1: can come up with is frustrated. It was he was
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Speaker 1: very irritated, agitated, and just about what this could be important?
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Speaker 1: What do you think he was agitated about? Whatever was
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Speaker 1: going on in their marriage? Was it that or was
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Speaker 1: it just life in general or the argument he was
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Speaker 1: having with Amanda. I really think it was just what
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Speaker 1: was going on between he and Amanda. Okay, well, they've
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Speaker 1: all been there. So he leaves her on six thirty
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Speaker 1: that evening March and you never saw him again, and
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Speaker 1: you never spoke to him. And again, did you ever
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Speaker 1: text with him again? No? I text him, but I
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Speaker 1: didn't get any response. That's significant. When did you text him?
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Speaker 1: Not until the next day. Is that normal for him
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Speaker 1: to have gone the whole night without texting or anything. Well, yes, because,
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Speaker 1: like I told you before, I just assumed they went
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Speaker 1: home and we're working things out, So I didn't try
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Speaker 1: to call him or text him that night. The next day, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the last thing a married couple of needs is the
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Speaker 1: mother in law butting in. Okay, had he already had
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Speaker 1: supper here with you? So he left and for all
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Speaker 1: you knew the girls they went out to dinner or
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Speaker 1: went home, and you just just say no news is
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Speaker 1: good news, right, Okay? So next day what happens? Next day,
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Speaker 1: I got out, just proceeded as a normal day, and
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Speaker 1: I got a text from Amanda later in the afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Did you text him that day? Not until after I
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Speaker 1: heard from a man? Okay, what did she say? She said,
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know that Chase did
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Speaker 1: not come home with me last night. I may really
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Speaker 1: they couldn't just hold it together for five or six
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Speaker 1: hours until they fell asleep, So something went bad there?
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Speaker 1: Did she tell you what? No, she didn't give me
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Speaker 1: any details, but she she told me that, Um, she
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Speaker 1: took Chase to Brad's house between eight and nine the
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Speaker 1: night of three six. She took him to breath so
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Speaker 1: they made it for about three hours. Yes, got into
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Speaker 1: an argument. She took him to Brad's. Do you believe
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Speaker 1: she took him to Brad's I do. I have no
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Speaker 1: reason not to believe that she didn't, because Brad says
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Speaker 1: he was there. So you texted him at what time
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Speaker 1: that day? As soon as I found out that Chase
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Speaker 1: was not with a man? It soon as I got
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Speaker 1: that text, I started calling his phone and and what
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Speaker 1: time would that have been? After? Four? Okay? So four pm?
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Speaker 1: You start texting and calling. Then Thursday March twenty seven,
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Speaker 1: at three thirty seven pm, Hi David, will you please
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Speaker 1: give me a call on the phone that you're sleeping,
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Speaker 1: which is totally okay, but I need to know that
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Speaker 1: you're all right. I love you? End this message. Did
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Speaker 1: the phone go straight to voicemail or did it ring?
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Speaker 1: And just one of his phone was already out of commission?
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Speaker 1: I wondered was he killed that night? And everything else
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Speaker 1: was a lie. That's what I'm wondering. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it went straight to voicemail. I can't. I can't remember
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Speaker 1: for sure. Would you have expected to hear from him
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Speaker 1: before four o'clock? No, But after you texted him and
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Speaker 1: called him, what you've expected to hear from him? Yes,
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Speaker 1: immediately or a few hours later, within five ten minutes.
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Speaker 1: That was your relationship. Yes, Okay, I'm going to go
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Speaker 1: to Daniel. Daniel does what she's saying, so for jive
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Speaker 1: with your knowledge of the facts. It does. The only
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Speaker 1: thing that is a little off from Brad Clement, the
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Speaker 1: friend who last saw Chase. He says that he picked
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Speaker 1: Chase up from QT, but you're saying that Amanda says
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Speaker 1: she dropped Chase off at Brad's house. Actually, in the
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Speaker 1: when I called and reported Chase missing and Amanda came
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Speaker 1: into the middle of the report, she actually said both things.
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Speaker 1: That she took Chase to Brad's house and that she
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Speaker 1: dropped Chase off at quick trip. That could have been
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Speaker 1: true for all I know, she took him to Brad's
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Speaker 1: house and he wasn't there, and then dropped him a
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Speaker 1: quick trip or whatever. It could very well, be that way.
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Speaker 1: The fact is Brad says they meant a quick trip
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Speaker 1: and she says she left him with Brad. And we know,
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Speaker 1: we believe anyway that he was with Brad from that
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Speaker 1: point on, so quick trip or house? How far did
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Speaker 1: he live? A quick trip anyway? Two minutes? Okay, So
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Speaker 1: we know that he was with Brad that after that night,
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Speaker 1: by ten o'clock he was with Brad. And you never
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Speaker 1: saw or heard from him after that. That was the
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Speaker 1: last time anyone but Brad saw him that we know of. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: at Brad's house he was having ruthing done. Is that correct?
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Speaker 1: And did they any of the roofers ever see him?
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Speaker 1: They're alive? I don't know, do you know? Dan know?
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Speaker 1: I talked to or spoke with the owner of the
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Speaker 1: roofing company and he says they never saw Chase where
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Speaker 1: they have. Was he in a bedroom of sleep the
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Speaker 1: whole time or what? According to Brad, Yes, he was
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Speaker 1: in a bedroom sleep, so and never came out of
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Speaker 1: the bedroom. According to the roofer, no, Now were the
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Speaker 1: roofers in the home. Are outside the home? They were
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Speaker 1: outside the home. Primarily they had a barbecue. Brad had
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Speaker 1: a barbecue and at some point, yes, I mean, why
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Speaker 1: I just cut him a check? Why would you give
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Speaker 1: a barbecue? Brad says that he invited him here for
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Speaker 1: a barbecue, and while there, the roofers say Brad gave
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Speaker 1: them a tour of Brad's home, included the bedroom. They
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Speaker 1: went all over according to well did they see did
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Speaker 1: they see Chase? No, they didn't. I'm not even ask
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Speaker 1: why would he give the ruferens a tour of his home?
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Speaker 1: But that's significant. If he gave them a tour of
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Speaker 1: his home, then you would have expected him to go
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Speaker 1: in that bedroom. Did the roofers say he went in
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Speaker 1: the bedrooms? I don't know specifically where they went. He
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Speaker 1: just said that Brad gave him a tour of the home,
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Speaker 1: and the roofers said that he thought that was odd.
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Speaker 1: Well I agree with that. Okay, So at that time
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Speaker 1: we have no reason to know that Chase is dead
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Speaker 1: or alive, or sleep in the bedroom or gone. So
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Speaker 1: the last time anyone can corroborate him being alive is
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Speaker 1: that night around nine. Yes, now, if you take Brad's testimony,
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Speaker 1: you know he saw him, But as far as more
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Speaker 1: anyone more than Brad, that and a dollar won't even
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Speaker 1: buy me a gallon of gas. Okay, So let's just
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Speaker 1: move from we know he's alive around ten o'clock that night.
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Speaker 1: If we've got him alive at that time, who's the
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Speaker 1: police authority, Cobb count? What are they saying about surveillance
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Speaker 1: video at Quick Trip? I mean, you might as well
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Speaker 1: be in NASA or or or a Vegas casino because
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Speaker 1: Quick Trip is tricked out with surveillance typically. So what
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Speaker 1: about that. Cob hasn't said any anything to me. They've
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Speaker 1: said more to Stephanie, right, yes, and I don't believe
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Speaker 1: they have any surveillance and they tried to get it
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Speaker 1: or dropped the ball. I don't believe they tried to
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Speaker 1: get it. No, Now we don't know for sure that
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Speaker 1: Cord didn't pull it. We don't know for sure. But
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Speaker 1: the first several weeks they were not actively investigating because,
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Speaker 1: in their words, it's not a crime to be missing.
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Speaker 1: If he wanted to walk away, it's not a crime. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Had he ever in his life
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Speaker 1: gone this long without texting you were calling you ever? Never?
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Speaker 1: And you know what I say, if you don't know
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Speaker 1: a horse, look at his track record. So what somebody
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Speaker 1: has done in the past, they're likely to do again.
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Speaker 1: If he had gone his whole lot, texting you and
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Speaker 1: calling you every what day, other day, what all the time,
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Speaker 1: then why would he quit that day? It's say to
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Speaker 1: h double L and my mother. So I don't believe that.
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Speaker 1: I don't either. What are they telling you that they
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Speaker 1: have done? Know you begged him to search a a
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Speaker 1: dumpster in the neighborhood that was full of roofing materials, correct,
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Speaker 1: and they searched the wrong dumpster. You know what. We're
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Speaker 1: back at square one, Stephanie, because we have to talk
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Speaker 1: to Brad. That's the missing link here. Now we know
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Speaker 1: he has refused to polygraph and then stated again he
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Speaker 1: will take a polygraph. I'm going looking for him, okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: armed with nothing but my iPhone, and I am going
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Speaker 1: to find him. I'm gonna ask him what happened. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna see what story he's gonna tell me, and we'll
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Speaker 1: take it from there. But I want to know from
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Speaker 1: you as we sit here together right now, what are
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Speaker 1: your thoughts. I just I just want another truth. I
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Speaker 1: want to know what happened to Chase. Do you believe
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Speaker 1: Chase is still alive. I do not now. Are you
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Speaker 1: saying that with your heart and your head? Or yes?
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Speaker 1: I don't believe he's alife. Can you think of a
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Speaker 1: reason that anyone would have wanted him dad? Not a
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Speaker 1: single reason? To his daughters ever asked where is daddy?
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Speaker 1: The oldest one does? And what do people tell the daughters.
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Speaker 1: I've been told that Chase's grandparents grandfather specifically, has talked
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Speaker 1: to Sydney and told her that her daddy's in heaven.
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Speaker 1: Have any of these players come to speak to you?
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Speaker 1: The friend, they computer people, all Brad, the Quick Trip people,
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Speaker 1: the renters down the street. Everyone would possibly have seen
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Speaker 1: him after you did. Has anybody come forward to tell
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Speaker 1: you anything? No? Why, I don't know. It's like everybody.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's back and away from this. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: touch you with a ten football, and I find that
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Speaker 1: very disturbing. I did too. What's your message today to
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Speaker 1: anyone that knows anything about Chase's whereabouts? Get it off
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Speaker 1: your chest, tell us the truth and let us have peace.
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Speaker 1: Would you be willing to forego a prosecution in exchange
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Speaker 1: for knowing what happened to Chase? Absolutely? I'm not I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to get revenge or get anyone in trouble,
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Speaker 1: and it's just trying to find justice for Chase. See.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that I could ever live with knowing
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Speaker 1: someone killed him. I don't think I could exchange justice
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Speaker 1: for truth. I'm not sure about that. I got to
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Speaker 1: think this thing through. Just is it worth just knowing
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Speaker 1: what happened to forego a prosecution of whoever is responsible.
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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. I've never had
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Speaker 1: to face that question myself. I've had to ask other
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Speaker 1: people that question. I've lived the last three years not knowing,
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Speaker 1: and every single day it's just hell, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen that know this, We're
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Speaker 1: gonna try because I can't stand to see any cry
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Speaker 1: like this. And if it were God forbid my own child,
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Speaker 1: I could live with myself. Either with me is Chase
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Speaker 1: and we searched, and we found Brad Clemens. We found him.
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Speaker 1: I beat on his door. He opened the door and
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Speaker 1: he let me in. I want you to hear what
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Speaker 1: he said when I questioned him, grilling him over an
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Speaker 1: hour and a half about the disappearance of Chase Masner.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, especially after I met Chase's
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Speaker 1: another yesterday, that about broke my heart. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: been all this time. She still doesn't even know what happened.
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Speaker 1: She thinks Chase is dead. Do you think he's dead?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I I hope that he's not,
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Speaker 1: but really I I don't know. Like I I've you know,
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Speaker 1: I've wondered about it. And you know the last time
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Speaker 1: when I was with him, like I hardly knew them really,
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Speaker 1: like I met him maybe three or four times. I mean,
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Speaker 1: see I the thing is like I hardly knew them,
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Speaker 1: like they were good friends. So some of my good
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Speaker 1: friends with my friend Alan who lived in the house
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Speaker 1: with me, and and like I had to get I
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Speaker 1: had to make him leave because he wouldn't paid me
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Speaker 1: rent and um, you know he I also caught him
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Speaker 1: like cross dressing and he thought I was gonna tell
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Speaker 1: all you know, all our friends that he was like
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Speaker 1: dressing up like a girl and stuff. And so he told, um,
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Speaker 1: Amanda in them that I like shot shot hero went
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Speaker 1: into Chase and killed him and put this all in
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Speaker 1: their head just just to get me in trouble. Why
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Speaker 1: would you use up here went on somebody else, in fact,
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Speaker 1: somebody that I don't even know, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: why would you do something where there's that That's another thing.
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Speaker 1: It's like I just don't know. Why would you take
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Speaker 1: somebody that you hardly know and then get them high
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Speaker 1: with heroin where you know people over to us all
23:01
Speaker 1: the time, and it's like, what what do you think
23:04
Speaker 1: Chase was on? I don't really think it was on
23:07
Speaker 1: much other than Pott and alcohol that night. I mean,
23:09
Speaker 1: that's I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I mean, you know,
23:12
Speaker 1: he was trying to get more, like and I gave
23:14
Speaker 1: him some cash, like he was trying for thirty MILLI
23:19
Speaker 1: Graham roxy pills, the that was what everybody was taking.
23:22
Speaker 1: Alan was giving him those sometimes because Alan would take those.
23:25
Speaker 1: And so he assumed that I could get him because
23:27
Speaker 1: Alan could go. And you know, I I brought him
23:29
Speaker 1: and you know, I was in a motorcycle wreck and
23:31
Speaker 1: I was on those at one point, and you know,
23:33
Speaker 1: so I took him to like that's one of the
23:35
Speaker 1: mannors to pick him up, just to kind of talk
23:36
Speaker 1: to him that night and be like, you know, dude,
23:38
Speaker 1: you don't want that ship Like I was in a
23:40
Speaker 1: motorcycle wreck. Man, coming off of those pills is terrible,
23:43
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, And I figured I could just
23:44
Speaker 1: you know, hang out with him. And you know, if
23:47
Speaker 1: you didn't really know him that well, why did you
23:49
Speaker 1: let him come to your place? I mean because he's
23:51
Speaker 1: been over there before, Like I mean, he worked at
23:53
Speaker 1: the Quick Trip right down the street from my house.
23:55
Speaker 1: So so what do you think just tape me through
23:58
Speaker 1: what happened that when he gets missed. I mean it's
24:01
Speaker 1: really not that much Like it's like everybody says, I
24:04
Speaker 1: like change my story and all this stuff, but it's
24:06
Speaker 1: like that was like what I did that day, you know,
24:08
Speaker 1: I mean, that wasn't really anything to do with Chase.
24:11
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, I ran about your errands,
24:12
Speaker 1: what I was doing, you know, most time when I
24:14
Speaker 1: was fixing up my house, Like he was there that
24:16
Speaker 1: night and then you know, basically left sometime between when
24:21
Speaker 1: I was coming back from the store to when I
24:25
Speaker 1: started cooking, Like I mean, he had to act like
24:28
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the only logical thing. So you
24:31
Speaker 1: go on. I think it was March the Ish to
24:37
Speaker 1: pick him up. A quick trip and it was at
24:39
Speaker 1: night around Okay, all right, you pick him up and
24:43
Speaker 1: bring him to your place directly or you'll drive around.
24:47
Speaker 1: You know, it was good. I mean it was right
24:48
Speaker 1: down the street. Okay, so you didn't drive around to
24:50
Speaker 1: hit to score and nothing like that. You got sight.
24:53
Speaker 1: So you go home. What does he do? I mean,
24:57
Speaker 1: we just sit there and start talking. We're actually I
24:59
Speaker 1: had a bunch of stuff that I building a computer with,
25:01
Speaker 1: so I had him help me carry a bunch of
25:02
Speaker 1: stuff in and then I started building the computer that
25:04
Speaker 1: I was actually not this one great different one, and
25:08
Speaker 1: I had you know, we just sit there and kind
25:10
Speaker 1: of just talked because we had talked, you know, two
25:12
Speaker 1: or three nights ago about the same thing too, what
25:15
Speaker 1: about him and amand of fighting and all this stuff
25:18
Speaker 1: they fight about. I mean it was like money and
25:21
Speaker 1: stuff like that because she wasn't working, and uh, you know,
25:26
Speaker 1: he didn't really talk too much about it, but I
25:28
Speaker 1: just told him, you know that you know, he was
25:30
Speaker 1: a lucky guy, and you know, it's got two beautiful kids,
25:32
Speaker 1: a beautiful wife. Like I don't know, you know, it's
25:35
Speaker 1: like what most people want, you know, in life, is
25:37
Speaker 1: to be you know, fulfilled with those two things. And
25:40
Speaker 1: you know how much you know I was he not
25:42
Speaker 1: happy with that? Was it money problems? Dope? What was it?
25:45
Speaker 1: I think it was more or less money problems? I mean,
25:47
Speaker 1: because you know, like I said, I just I really
25:51
Speaker 1: didn't know him that that well, like and I mean
25:53
Speaker 1: it was this was so longer than we actually talked
25:55
Speaker 1: about this, like you know, and it was mainly me talking,
25:58
Speaker 1: you know, other than him. You know, he's saying and listen,
26:01
Speaker 1: and you know, he said that he was like telling
26:03
Speaker 1: Amanda he was going to run off and like sleep
26:05
Speaker 1: in the woods and all this stuff. Yeah you didn't
26:07
Speaker 1: hear that. No, Yeah, that's that's been another big thing,
26:10
Speaker 1: like go off and sleep in the woods. And why
26:15
Speaker 1: I wonder if he tried to do that and died.
26:17
Speaker 1: I mean I figured that I I would have find found
26:19
Speaker 1: him then, like what about just let me just go
26:23
Speaker 1: off and sleep in the woods. Okay, did you hear
26:27
Speaker 1: him say that? Yeah? He said it, you know a
26:29
Speaker 1: couple of times and I was like, I was said
26:31
Speaker 1: it was bs and you know, because he wants to
26:33
Speaker 1: get sleep in the woods. Yeah exactly. I mean he has,
26:36
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like so that not y'all stay
26:38
Speaker 1: at late talking about Amanda and you're working on the computer. Okay,
26:42
Speaker 1: then what happens is he I mean he pretty much
26:44
Speaker 1: just you know, I think he'd been up for like
26:46
Speaker 1: a couple of days, like tired, Like I mean, you
26:48
Speaker 1: could tell he was barely hanging on and I just
26:51
Speaker 1: passed out on my bed and like I just continue
26:55
Speaker 1: to kind of you know, work on stuff, and you know,
26:58
Speaker 1: it was gosh, I think you know, the roofers out
27:02
Speaker 1: there like six am or something. They always do that
27:04
Speaker 1: and started really early, and you know, so I was
27:08
Speaker 1: just you know, continuing to get all this stuff from
27:11
Speaker 1: my my day, and uh, you know, I thought it
27:14
Speaker 1: would be a good idea that uh I have, you know,
27:16
Speaker 1: Manna come over and just kind of have like a
27:18
Speaker 1: cookout thing, because you know, I knew Brandon and him
27:21
Speaker 1: and the roofers, and like, I like to cook and stuff,
27:23
Speaker 1: and I know it's kind of odd to have a cookout,
27:25
Speaker 1: but like it was, you know, it was it was something. Okay.
27:30
Speaker 1: So anyway, she didn't come over. No, you tried to
27:33
Speaker 1: get him to call him and and invite her ever
27:36
Speaker 1: to kind of like make the pace. Did he do it? No,
27:39
Speaker 1: not that I know of. And I mean that's why
27:41
Speaker 1: I tried to talk to her on his phone because
27:43
Speaker 1: I didn't have her number, And that's why I had
27:46
Speaker 1: his phone in the first place, was to call her
27:48
Speaker 1: and ask her mainly if he needed to be at
27:50
Speaker 1: work that day because I didn't know, and he, you know,
27:53
Speaker 1: had to be work at nights most of the time.
27:55
Speaker 1: So and then what happened, And then I kind of
27:59
Speaker 1: went on my day, Like I mean, I just went
28:01
Speaker 1: and did you know stuff I normally do. I went
28:02
Speaker 1: to lowse Um. I had to drop a laptop off
28:05
Speaker 1: that i'd fixed for somebody. What did you need it lose?
28:07
Speaker 1: I mean I was fixing my house up so I
28:09
Speaker 1: can't tell you exactly what it was. I mean, just
28:11
Speaker 1: so you got to lose. You go to the grocery
28:13
Speaker 1: store first. I want to go to off this laptop
28:15
Speaker 1: off that was down um off of Um Gosh. It's
28:21
Speaker 1: my friend Rickey's house, which was like downtown pretty much.
28:25
Speaker 1: He's ever. You're going about your day, you're doing your thing,
28:29
Speaker 1: and um, you take the computer to Ricky he lives.
28:35
Speaker 1: He lives um pretty much downtown downtown Atlanta, And you
28:39
Speaker 1: were all the way up here and I told him
28:42
Speaker 1: you had to come with me. That's forty minutes and
28:45
Speaker 1: forty minutes at least, it's probably more like three hours
28:48
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, by the time you get
28:50
Speaker 1: get there forty minutes in their thirty minutes back forty
28:54
Speaker 1: minutes at best. Okay, so you leave him where she
28:58
Speaker 1: was upstairs just I mean the next point. I mean, yeah,
29:01
Speaker 1: he was just asleep. Because you know, this is probably
29:04
Speaker 1: like eight o'clock. You know m yeah, alright, so you
29:08
Speaker 1: can sleep for like five hours, probably not even maybe four,
29:12
Speaker 1: I'd say four or five. I wanted always saying nothing
29:15
Speaker 1: good happens after good night. I mean you always get
29:17
Speaker 1: an arguments and everything goes sideways at night. Y okay.
29:22
Speaker 1: So yeah, because I don't want to get any I
29:23
Speaker 1: don't want to lose any of this because I'm pacing
29:25
Speaker 1: it all together like a timeline. All right, so you
29:28
Speaker 1: go at eight nine, tien thirty, you get back. What's
29:33
Speaker 1: he doing sleeping the same exact thing. Door open, closed,
29:36
Speaker 1: doors open at this point because he's still in my room. Yeah,
29:39
Speaker 1: And this is when I got him up, um. And
29:41
Speaker 1: I mean I basically woke up and was like, yo,
29:43
Speaker 1: come with me, come on, I'm gonna have a cook out,
29:45
Speaker 1: you know, call Amanda. And I dropped all day plans
29:47
Speaker 1: on it because I was like, man, I figured he'd
29:48
Speaker 1: be up by now, you know, ready to go and
29:50
Speaker 1: rolling and got him up and then I you know,
29:53
Speaker 1: I got to put him in the other bedroom because
29:55
Speaker 1: I was going to work on some stuff in my
29:56
Speaker 1: room at this point, and because I had like a
29:58
Speaker 1: four bedroom house, so yeah, a kind of saw and
30:02
Speaker 1: it was you know, I was like, you know, there's
30:05
Speaker 1: no point let him sleep in my room. Continue when
30:07
Speaker 1: I got crap I gotta do, and um, you know,
30:09
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, you know, irritated at this
30:11
Speaker 1: point because I was like, you know, wanted to be
30:13
Speaker 1: up so we can get stuff, kind of rolling. But
30:15
Speaker 1: you know, he was you know also you know had
30:19
Speaker 1: I could tell he hadn't been sleeping for a couple
30:20
Speaker 1: of days, and you know, I had been fighting or whatnot.
30:22
Speaker 1: So he went in the other bedroom. Door open, shut,
30:25
Speaker 1: door opened. So later that day, you gave the roof
30:29
Speaker 1: us a tour of your home. Let's see there. See
30:33
Speaker 1: I didn't really give my tour my home because they've
30:34
Speaker 1: been there before. They told me that you gave him
30:37
Speaker 1: a tour of your home that they showed you showed
30:39
Speaker 1: me around your house. I mean, I guess, but like
30:42
Speaker 1: that will probably at like four o'clock or something, four
30:44
Speaker 1: or five o'clock. I mean, I didn't really think that
30:46
Speaker 1: was the serenod of day. Yeah, But so you come back,
30:49
Speaker 1: you get back to him thirty eleven ish, you move
30:52
Speaker 1: them from your bedroom to the other bedroom. He crashed
30:55
Speaker 1: his door open, and you do what I started going
30:58
Speaker 1: and getting you know I have to. That's at that point,
31:00
Speaker 1: I'd go a week day or it's a weekday. Yeah,
31:04
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Amanda wasn't working so she could come out probably.
31:07
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I thought, you know, I didn't
31:10
Speaker 1: think she'd do anything, takeing care of the kids like
31:12
Speaker 1: and uh, I kind of wanted to, you know, squash
31:14
Speaker 1: this you know, fighting thing if it was, but it was. See.
31:18
Speaker 1: I remember I give Kase sixty bucks too. I told
31:20
Speaker 1: I gave him sixty bucks nine before he asked me
31:22
Speaker 1: for a month, and uh, I told him, you know, yeah,
31:25
Speaker 1: and I'll give you this, But fifty bucks he had
31:29
Speaker 1: in his pocket the whole time. I'm pretty sure. I mean,
31:31
Speaker 1: I don't think he left and came back where I was,
31:33
Speaker 1: you know, gone that I know of. You know, so
31:36
Speaker 1: you get back, try to wake him up, hey, guys
31:38
Speaker 1: in the other room. Then you start doing what after that?
31:42
Speaker 1: That's at that point I go to Publix and Lows
31:46
Speaker 1: and that's when um um I went and grabbed I
31:49
Speaker 1: forget what it was, I need to grab it, uh Lows,
31:52
Speaker 1: but um, I grab the list up to cook with
31:55
Speaker 1: a Publix and that's when I came back basically started
32:00
Speaker 1: with the grill, and it was probably you know, one
32:03
Speaker 1: two o'clock at this point. And you know, after I
32:06
Speaker 1: started to grill, I like set the backyard, like I
32:08
Speaker 1: had a bunch of coals that pretty much one some
32:11
Speaker 1: blew out of the yard and like, I mean, rufus,
32:13
Speaker 1: I had to get off the house because it was
32:14
Speaker 1: like so smoky from the fire that I started in
32:16
Speaker 1: the back Yeah, and because there's nobody behind me and
32:20
Speaker 1: Canna saw it was like all woods back there. And uh,
32:23
Speaker 1: basically after that, that's when I went and tried to
32:26
Speaker 1: you know, get chased something like, man, did you see
32:28
Speaker 1: the fire in the backyard, because the better he was
32:30
Speaker 1: in was directly by the back you mean, you could
32:33
Speaker 1: see that fire like you know, playing his day, you know.
32:36
Speaker 1: And that's when I realized he wasn't there anymore. And
32:39
Speaker 1: what time was that? I want to say it was
32:41
Speaker 1: like two or three o'clock when you came back from publics?
32:44
Speaker 1: Was he there? I didn't check with the bedrooms upstairs,
32:51
Speaker 1: so you lay for publics at one time. It's probably
32:54
Speaker 1: the twelvish or something like that, and he was there.
32:57
Speaker 1: You get back from publics, you don't go up there
33:00
Speaker 1: or the pine straw catches on fire and you go
33:03
Speaker 1: up there. At what time it's about I want to
33:05
Speaker 1: see you. It was like between like one or two o'clock.
33:09
Speaker 1: It's been like maybe one or one hour or anything
33:11
Speaker 1: like that. Not even not long like before the last time,
33:13
Speaker 1: maybe maybe one third for you to leave him. Go
33:16
Speaker 1: to lows, go to publics, get back, start a fire
33:19
Speaker 1: and put the fire out and go up there. It's
33:20
Speaker 1: probably two o'clock. I mean it was gone, and he
33:24
Speaker 1: was gone, and like he had taken his bag and
33:26
Speaker 1: everything that he had, like he had a little bag
33:28
Speaker 1: and then he had his He left his two little
33:30
Speaker 1: balls of beer in my in the closet. But other
33:32
Speaker 1: than that, how big was the back It's like a backpack.
33:38
Speaker 1: Was it a backpack? Yeah, it was a backpack. Seeing
33:40
Speaker 1: Glaze with his backpack in sixty bucks helped him take
33:44
Speaker 1: his bags to the room, right, Yeah, it was that
33:46
Speaker 1: back then, backpacking like a you know, grocery bag of
33:50
Speaker 1: two bottles of beer or something like that. So did
33:54
Speaker 1: you see it coming that he was laving. Yeah, he
33:56
Speaker 1: did that every time, Like he would just disappear every
33:58
Speaker 1: time every time. Then then he over my house. He
34:00
Speaker 1: would always never till he was even he would just
34:02
Speaker 1: disappeared a man like, so that was his m O.
34:05
Speaker 1: So I wasn't too world. Times you've been over in
34:07
Speaker 1: disappear two or three. I mean each time you've been
34:10
Speaker 1: in my house, he always just left because I was
34:12
Speaker 1: always like trying to get to do something in or
34:14
Speaker 1: like you know, something like a cook out or just
34:17
Speaker 1: I feel like something that he didn't want to do.
34:19
Speaker 1: You know, he was you know, all about like just
34:22
Speaker 1: kind of getting stoned at that point, and you know,
34:25
Speaker 1: like I said, I wasn't really smoking, so it was
34:30
Speaker 1: I mean it was on another topic a man hit
34:34
Speaker 1: on you. I mean it was you know like yeah,
34:41
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, like what like I mean like
34:46
Speaker 1: she was mad at Chase and it was just like
34:49
Speaker 1: you know, um, basically I'm stoned now. Um you know,
34:56
Speaker 1: anything goes like you know, you just have like the
34:58
Speaker 1: eye connection thing and it's just like you know, you
35:00
Speaker 1: could tell when he played this was another man thing
35:03
Speaker 1: where he thinks she's so into me and she's like
35:06
Speaker 1: so not. I would say that, so you really think
35:10
Speaker 1: she was hitting on me. I mean it's not like
35:12
Speaker 1: hitting on me like grab my ass or anything, but
35:15
Speaker 1: like I mean she was like, you know, feeling it
35:18
Speaker 1: out at least, like I mean, she called me and
35:21
Speaker 1: told me to come over there to bring her some
35:24
Speaker 1: pot for like, you know, just some bizarre reason. Like
35:29
Speaker 1: you know, it was just kind of you think she's
35:30
Speaker 1: trying to get back at chrise. You know, I hope
35:34
Speaker 1: so like that was that was kind of because otherwise
35:37
Speaker 1: that makes it Yeah, okay, okay, back to the day,
35:41
Speaker 1: all right, So around you think two o'clock, you notice
35:44
Speaker 1: he's not gone and his backpack is gone. Now, earlier
35:47
Speaker 1: that day, you had taken his cell phone with you
35:50
Speaker 1: by because I mean, I think I just really had
35:54
Speaker 1: it with me, but I really wanted him to stay
35:56
Speaker 1: and you know, wait for him to manage to come
35:59
Speaker 1: over because I knew we always left like that was
36:01
Speaker 1: him up. You know, he always leaves, So if I
36:03
Speaker 1: had a cell phone, he wasn't gonna leave right away.
36:05
Speaker 1: And but that was like early in the morning when
36:06
Speaker 1: I thought that a man and then we could come over.
36:09
Speaker 1: And before I you know, moved from out of the bedroom,
36:11
Speaker 1: and uh, because I really wanted to talk to him again,
36:14
Speaker 1: you know, to make sure that you know, nothing crazy
36:17
Speaker 1: was going to happen. But you know, so would the
36:20
Speaker 1: roofs have been in the position to same like they
36:23
Speaker 1: should have. Like that's what I thought, you know, That's
36:26
Speaker 1: why I assume they just saw him don't leave, because
36:29
Speaker 1: I mean they were worked there. The house had a
36:31
Speaker 1: steep um see at this point when it was really smoky,
36:35
Speaker 1: they had to get down off the roof there because
36:38
Speaker 1: that's you know, and that's why I assumed, you know,
36:41
Speaker 1: that Chase had heard them running around or whatever. I
36:43
Speaker 1: don't even know how he was sleeping with all that noise, Like,
36:47
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been told that you had a big
36:53
Speaker 1: black bag of stuff you threw away a dumpster. What
36:57
Speaker 1: was It's a big black bag, probably ceiling tiles, all
37:02
Speaker 1: kinds of crap. I mean, I'm cosmlutely redoing the house.
37:05
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole dumpster thing is kind of ridiculous
37:08
Speaker 1: to me because I had all my neighbors story stuff
37:10
Speaker 1: in it. Like, I mean, it was just why do
37:14
Speaker 1: you say everybody's wanting to figure at you, because I'm
37:18
Speaker 1: the person that nobody knows and I'm just like that
37:21
Speaker 1: odd piece and his disappearance doesn't make sense, But in
37:28
Speaker 1: a way it does. If he kept telling people who
37:33
Speaker 1: stuff leave and get live in the woods. Are you
37:35
Speaker 1: sure about that? Yeah? That was I mean, that's that's
37:38
Speaker 1: well known to you. I'm pretty sure. I mean that
37:40
Speaker 1: he said that. I think his mom even knows that.
37:43
Speaker 1: Like how badly do you think he had Amanda with that?
37:49
Speaker 1: I mean bad enough to where they she would just
37:52
Speaker 1: throw him out of the car like randomly because they
37:55
Speaker 1: want to find in front of the kids and stuff,
37:57
Speaker 1: and um, you know that was. Uh do you think
38:02
Speaker 1: he would actually leave his children? I you know, wouldn't
38:05
Speaker 1: have thought that, you know, But I mean, and I
38:08
Speaker 1: could say somebody leaving their wife that if they fought
38:11
Speaker 1: all the time. But the children, that's the thing that's
38:14
Speaker 1: a whe where I don't buy him going into the
38:16
Speaker 1: woods because I don't think he would have left those children.
38:19
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think that he would have left
38:21
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38:23
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Speaker 1: Chase Master and with me is Daniel Wilkerson. Daniel has
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Speaker 1: been on the case from the very very beginning. Daniel
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Speaker 1: reporting from CBS forty six News. So, after nearly three
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Speaker 1: years of trying to find her son, with volunteers that
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Speaker 1: call themselves Team Chase on the case along with us,
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Speaker 1: along with you, Daniel, after begging police to bring dogs
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Speaker 1: out to the house where he was last seen with
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Speaker 1: his buddy Brad Clements, they finally do it. And what
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Speaker 1: do they find, Daniel Wilkerson. They find human remains. The
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Speaker 1: dogs hit on human remains. We first took the dogs
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Speaker 1: into the house the basement, Uh, they didn't find anything.
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Speaker 1: After looking throughout the house, came out, turned to the left,
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Speaker 1: right behind the back door, under a deck. The first
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Speaker 1: dogs set on a place and then they went and
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Speaker 1: got another dog, and that dog set in the same area.
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Speaker 1: And I tell you, we were all just blown away, amazing, amazing.
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Speaker 1: With me is Daniel Wilkerson News your part of where
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Speaker 1: CBS forty six News in Atlanta, who's been on the
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Speaker 1: case from the very beginning, Daniel, you saw Brad Clements
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Speaker 1: in court and it just takes me back to the
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Speaker 1: time that you and I were banging on his door
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Speaker 1: and he opens up and I sat on his bed
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Speaker 1: for I guess what, three hours. He kept trying to
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Speaker 1: make up excuses to get away, like I need to
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Speaker 1: take shower, and I'm like, I also sit here, I'm fine,
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Speaker 1: and he seemed like such a laid back guy. What's
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Speaker 1: the status on his so called best friends case right now? Well,
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Speaker 1: he's been indict at Nancy. We're waiting to see if
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Speaker 1: there's a way that if he makes a deal, he
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Speaker 1: will be able to tell the story what happened that night.
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Speaker 1: Of course, that's what the family is waiting for. Of course,
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Speaker 1: at this point, you know, he's only been charged with
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Speaker 1: hiding the body, and so because they couldn't get a
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Speaker 1: cause of death, we don't know, you know, how it
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Speaker 1: all went down, and so that's what we're waiting on
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Speaker 1: right now. And the sums sem to think that he
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Speaker 1: will try to strike a deal, and as you know,
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Speaker 1: the time for hiding a body is nothing like it
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Speaker 1: is for other charges like murder. Well, I think they
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Speaker 1: should take it to try on a jury decide what happened.
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Speaker 1: I mean, because if it were an innocent cause of
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Speaker 1: death c D, why would you lie? I mean, come on, Daniel,
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Speaker 1: if you had a heart attack and killed over right now,
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Speaker 1: God forbid, trust me, I would not drag your body
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Speaker 1: to the backyard and bury it under a slab and
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Speaker 1: then poor a slab of some men iver it? Sure
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Speaker 1: and yeah and and a lot of the evidence Nancy
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Speaker 1: is gone because it took so long to find him,
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Speaker 1: So there's you know, trying to find evidence in the ground,
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Speaker 1: the leak it with you know, what could have been
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Speaker 1: in the house at the time is it would probably
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Speaker 1: be nearly impossible. Let me ask you this, Why did
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Speaker 1: it take three years to bring cadaver dogs to the
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Speaker 1: location for this Iraqi war Vett was last seen alive?
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Speaker 1: What three years? And I asked that question of the
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Speaker 1: district attorney the other day and I said, hey, how
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Speaker 1: what do you think about the job that the police
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Speaker 1: department did? And he it seemed to think they had
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Speaker 1: done a great job. And I said, well, wouldn't simple
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Speaker 1: police work have brought dogs to that backyard. And you remember, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: it was a shallow grave. So you would think if they,
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Speaker 1: you know, had done that, maybe even a month after
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Speaker 1: he went missing, those dogs would have hit then. But
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Speaker 1: instead this family had to wait what more than three
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Speaker 1: years to only find him in the very backyard of
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Speaker 1: the home where he was last seen. Did they give
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Speaker 1: you an answer why they waited three years to send
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Speaker 1: out dogs because that destroyed the evidence the bodies decomposed.
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Speaker 1: You're right and well. When I asked the discal attorney
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Speaker 1: the other day whether or not they had taken dogs back,
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Speaker 1: he act like he didn't know. So you know, that's
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Speaker 1: something I'll be digging into. I'm sure you will, because
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Speaker 1: simple police work would have found Chase Man or even
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Speaker 1: bring in volunteer dogs. I mean, anything, just anything. And
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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You think there's a deal
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Speaker 1: in the works. I don't like that at all. When
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Speaker 1: I spoke with the district attorney, he didn't indicate. But
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Speaker 1: just speaking with the investigators, I think that they will
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Speaker 1: try to give bread a deal. I really do. And
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Speaker 1: one of the things you may understand it is better
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Speaker 1: the district attorney says that when it comes to you know,
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Speaker 1: trying to get a story out of him. He didn't
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Speaker 1: know whether that was best simply because a person, I
44:14
Speaker 1: guess just trying to get a deal could just come
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Speaker 1: up with something. So who knows if we'll even get
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Speaker 1: the truth from Brad Clement. If I can tell you
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Speaker 1: this right now, we spent we spent so much time
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Speaker 1: with him. Of course you're not going to get the
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Speaker 1: truth out of him. He's never going to tell the truth.
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Speaker 1: So why bother cutting a deal for a lie? It's
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Speaker 1: going to be a lie? Okay, I mean, what should
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Speaker 1: I believe him or my lion eyes? Chase Master was
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Speaker 1: at his home, he disappeared. Brad Clement's conducted a very
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Speaker 1: intricate cover up and held up the lie for three years,
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Speaker 1: continued feeding the lie with more lies. He buried the
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Speaker 1: body in a shallow grave. He then covered it with
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Speaker 1: a slab of cement and has a deck on top
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Speaker 1: of it. You don't do that when it's an accidental
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Speaker 1: or natural cause of death. Bam. Some people would argue, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: they were both doing drugs and he didn't want to
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Speaker 1: get found out. Well that get get yourself clean and sober.
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Speaker 1: And then Collins say, my buddy has odd. If you
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Speaker 1: have an accidental or natural cause of death, you don't
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Speaker 1: drag the body to the backyard and bury it in
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Speaker 1: the dark of night. That's not how that goes down. Daniel. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And the one thing I keep thinking about, Nancy, looking
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Speaker 1: at that autopsy, looking at the way that police say
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Speaker 1: in the medical examiner says Brad prepared the body before
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Speaker 1: he buried it. What does that mean? There were details
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Speaker 1: his arms and hands were bound, his feet were bound,
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Speaker 1: he was wrapped up. And so from the autopsy, it
45:43
Speaker 1: seems as if Brad, if he did this, he spent
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Speaker 1: a lot of time with that body before he buried it.
45:50
Speaker 1: And that's what you know, police are saying. And and
45:52
Speaker 1: just the just the thought of that. So you had
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Speaker 1: all that time in between the time when you know,
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Speaker 1: whatever happened, and when you put him in the ground.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy to think that a person
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Speaker 1: who is not a mortician or you know, who deals
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Speaker 1: with dead bodies could spend that much time with a
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Speaker 1: dead body. You know, Daniel Wilkerson, after all that family,
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Speaker 1: all those friends have been through his wife, a man
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Speaker 1: of the children are left without a dad, those little girls,
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna cut a deal. Oh no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: this thing needs to be taken to trial and prosecuted
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Speaker 1: like there ain't no tomorrow. Uh uh. Nothing is gonna
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Speaker 1: do but hard jail time for the death of this
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Speaker 1: young son, father, husband and Iraqi Warvett. That is the
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Speaker 1: very least we can do. Now. If a jury wants
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Speaker 1: to let him go, that's on them. But it would
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Speaker 1: be a cold a in h G double l before
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Speaker 1: I would let this thing go on a cheap plea.
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Speaker 1: The very thought of Brad Clement's tying up Chase's body
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Speaker 1: backyard in Oh, Daniel, No, And you were there when
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Speaker 1: he met with Chase his mother. Oh, when I look
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Speaker 1: back on that, it just makes me sick. Describe it.
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Speaker 1: We had been at the hotel with brad Clement, and
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Speaker 1: we knew we had to get him to the mother
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