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Dylan Cease No-Hitter · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the three OT where we talk all
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things Major League Baseball. Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate
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Reyes. It all starts right now.
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Welcome back to the three OT presented by Sea Kick.
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This is episode 453. I'll be your host, Kyle Corden,
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and I'm here with my Co host, Nate Reyes.
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Nate. A surprise welcome back.
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I don't think anybody knew, but look at people joining in live.
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Look at that shout out back. To back days, back-to-back days,
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emergency pod, bonus pod Well, I mean, it's it's episode 450.
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It's a real pod yeah, it's a real pod.
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It's not a bonus pod, but. Yeah, I I personally feel
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better. I feel, I feel glad that this is
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happening. I did not bring the juice
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yesterday, so I want to apologize to everybody.
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I was rocking like 4 hours of sleep.
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I think I talked about Robbie Ray still being on the Mariners.
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You did that. That actually was that last
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episode of the episode of Five. I don't know.
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I don't know. It's been one big.
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I think sleep, I think that was two episodes ago and somebody
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called you out and said a little bit of an oopsie on the Robbie
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Ray on the Mariners thing. He was with the.
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Giants, you know, he pitches like 30 like 30 innings a year
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now. So I just, I just forgot, you
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know? Well, not that we are going to
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talk about Robbie Ray on this episode, but did Ricochet
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excellent. He had an excellent season debut
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so I think, I think an an apology is in order, but.
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I'll leave that. I'll leave that to you and
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yours. All right, the plan here, we say
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this a lot and it never happens. The plan is to keep this
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somewhat relatively short just to get you a little Dylan cease
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no hitter talk in before the weekend.
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So if you're listening to this right now, after the fact, if
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you're not with us in the live, if you're listening to this
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after the fact, you can probably look down at the time stamp and
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see how we did. Let us know let like how did how
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did we do from the from the future tell us how we did.
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Who's to really say if we're going to be able to keep this
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thing short or not? That's the plan.
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Just sneak in a little pod right before the weekend.
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Pod. We'll see how we do.
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Dylan C Snow hitter, I texted you when this happened.
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Well, actually I texted you after the Mason Miller injury
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update came through and I was like what?
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Something to the effect of like classic major news happening the
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day after we record and not to mention.
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That time of year, yeah. It was it was a day after we
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recorded heading into a weekend, which always sucks because it's
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like if this would have happened on Monday till.
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Monday. You know what?
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I. Mean, right, Like if we would
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have, if we would have recorded Sunday and this happens Monday,
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it's like, all right, we'll get to Wednesday, but when you
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record Wednesday and it happens Thursday and you got to wait
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till Sunday. No one wants that.
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Nobody wants to start their week looking that far back.
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Regardless how big the event is, Even if something as big as a no
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hitter, they're going to be like, we've already we've
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already listened to our our podcasts and other takes on
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these things. So we don't really care what you
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have to say. So we got ahead of the curve
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here and said we're going to give it to you day off.
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How about that? It's been six hours, four hours.
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Yeah, four to six hours, five, maybe five hours since it
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happened. I mean, that's that's pretty
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good, but let let's talk about it.
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Dylan CS no hitter, the second no hitter of the year, the first
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Padres no hitter since Joe Musgrove back in 2021.
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There was some this was a this was an interesting no hitter.
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I'm not going to lie. Like there were some things at
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play. Some just funny baseball things
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that happened there was those those classic.
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I'm going to be honest that that I think your boy Bogart's
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almost. I was going to say, I was going
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to say I was just about to say there was those classic no
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hitter, like make you a little nervous type plays.
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Yeah, pretty much solely fell on Zaner Bogart's I think like two
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or three times. So yeah, yeah, I'm glad glad we
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didn't. He didn't cost him there, but
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the Louis Arise thing I thought was I thought was funny because
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if you remember back in 2022, two seasons ago, I believe Cease
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came within one out of a no hitter and none other than Luis
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Arise was the man to break it up, who is now his teammate.
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And I don't know if you saw it, but he actually gave him the
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ball after the fact, which I thought was I thought that was
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pretty cool. I hate, I'd absolutely hate that
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it had to happen in DC on a weekday.
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Yeah, with like, I don't know, a few dozen people there.
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Maybe six fans in the stands, not not really wild about that,
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but, you know, no hitters and no hitters.
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So I, I don't want to, I don't want to take anything away from
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him by any stretch, but not exactly the the ideal setting,
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you know? Yeah, yeah, this is what it is.
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Like you, I'll take it. I would take it.
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How about my guy? Was that 94 pitches after 7?
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That sounds right. He finished with 114 I think.
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He said in his interview this season high was 113, which is
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it's weird to me how much of like this season high plays into
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like that's my ceiling for the, you know what I'm saying?
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Like that I did it before this. You're like what?
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Like you've been in the big leagues for years.
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Like I think I think it's OK if you go, Oh no, my high was 102,
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but I went 117. Like what?
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I hate the pitch count thing. I'm so over that.
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But overall dope that he talked his way into it to stay.
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Yeah. Was there like a there was a
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conversation had between him and Shilt, correct?
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I think he said in his interview, or at least, or Cilla
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was like, hey, like there was like a, there was like a hand,
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like a your day is done kind of handshake.
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So he talked his way into it, man.
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And I, I think it really, I don't know how much it helped.
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall if like having like Joe Musgrove
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in the dugout kind of, you know, just one other guy in there
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that's done it, especially for an organization that doesn't
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have them exactly stacked up, you know what I mean?
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I don't know, they they panned at Musgrove a handful of times
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and it looked like homie was just keeping to his own.
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He probably he I mean, I would imagine he probably understand.
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I mean, most people in the dugout probably understand that
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that element to it to just kind of, yeah, keep, keep to your
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keep to yourself for the time being.
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But I think I'm, I'm sure at at points throughout the game,
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Musgrove was like, yo, let's, let's dial it in here.
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Yeah, then I know I'm in the minority here.
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I'm a shield guy. I I like shield in in in Saint
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Louis. I I thought it was silly that he
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got fired. He just seems like a brick wall
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kind of guy, you know what I mean?
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Like he seems like he's a very much player first kind of
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priority. So I, I love that I any
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opportunity where a manager can almost throw the script away and
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just kind of feel the pulse of the game and feel like feel out
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of his guy. That's good.
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That's a good thing. So job well done.
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Job well done by shield. A lot of sliders.
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I think I saw he threw like 60 sliders like a.
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Lot. Yeah, there was a lot of.
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Fastballs. Something like that.
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Finished with nine strikeouts, so a fair amount of swing and
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miss throughout. I went back, I mean, I was I was
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a little busy with work today, so I wasn't able to catch the
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the game in its entirety. As I would imagine probably most
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people, whenever these types of things happen, it's usually like
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a hey, let's let's TuneIn and like the 7th or 8th and then
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watch it from here on out, which is kind of where I was at.
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But again, that's what most people do because you see that
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you see the notification pop up on the on the on the scoreboard,
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you get the text updates. That's just how these things
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happen. So I was kind of right there
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with everybody else. But from what I did see, did not
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seem to lose much life late in the game.
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I think in it was it in the ninth?
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He had 100 on his. Was it his hundredth pitch
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somewhere? Like somewhere right around that
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threshold. It was a punch out, wasn't it?
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Topped out at 100, I believe. Yeah, some at some point there
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in the 9th. But yeah, job well done.
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I'm glad to see that that Speaking of Shelt, that he was
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able to kind of relinquish that a little bit, let him let him
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go, give him the leash to at least go out there and fight for
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that opportunity to to earn that feat.
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I think the the I. Think it was CJ Abrams that
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lined out for the final out right to right.
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Yeah, that one made me a little nervous.
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I. Think it made him nervous?
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You see his reaction, the second alpha contact, he's like, Oh no.
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Yeah, yeah. And So what I, I was trying to
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remember why I was bringing up like my point about, oh, I tuned
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into the 7th because I did that. I had to go back and I went back
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and watched the full 27 outs thing like I, I do for most of
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these no hitter perfect game type things.
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And I noticed earlier in the game that CJ Abrams also put a
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charge into one out to write even like, yeah, harder and, and
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further than the final out of the game.
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And I'm like, that one probably made him a little nervous.
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But at that point, I don't know if you're really, yeah, thinking
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along those lines. So I'm sure the the final out
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made him a little more nervous. But those like we talked about
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those Xander plays, man, I mean, yeesh.
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The the bobble in center field was crazy.
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That one was the weirdest 1 to me and it is quite literally
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like the exact definition of like an outfielder being in the
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right spot and coming in on a ball when you should just a
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funky play there. The weird like glove side in the
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35 hole like just batted around real quick.
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Like had it in the transfer then that was weird man.
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I don't he still got some zip on it to get him out and it was by
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like 1/2 step. All right, so let's play umpire
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here a little bit. That ball that he bobbled, it
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ends up in Jackson Merrill's glove.
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Let's play it. Let's play devil's advocate
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here, umpires. Devil's, devil's advocate, If he
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bobbles that ball, let's say Jackson Merrill like lunges, He
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sees the ball in midair. Jackson tries to get a hand on
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it, like a bare hand or something, drops it.
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What are what are we? Because you got to remember you.
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Well, you got to remember, though, this year has been very,
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very peculiar in terms of, of scoring and rulings on hits and
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errors. So like, do we think that that
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ball would have been ruled a hit if Xander, Bob, he's going back
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for it, Bob's a little bit maybe, like I said, Jackson
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maybe gets a finger on it or something in an effort to catch
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it barehanded and it falls to the ground.
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I think they've. Given him a hit on that, yeah.
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Yeah, and a brutal way to give that up.
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Brutal way. But I was thinking like imagine
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Bang Bang play on the other Xander play at first and like
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called out on field review to be safe.
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Like imagine losing a no hitter that way.
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That would suck. That I mean that play that
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you're referring to that's a heck of a play though, like I, I
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watched it back a few times and I maybe if you're watching it
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live ago oh like that's a great recovery, but like no, if you
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actually go back and look. That's not easy to do.
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That the, the, the transfer or, or basically just like being
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able to get a hand on the ball in a position to throw it and
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beat him by a step. That is a very difficult thing
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to do. And you have to imagine that
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there's a degree of luck at play there because like if that ball,
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if that ball is off by like a degree that bounces off his
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thumb and rolls to the foul line like or, or whichever direction
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it was going. But that, I mean that, and
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that's what we talked about with these no hitters, there's always
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something. Yeah, I'd have one or two weird,
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weird things. You got to have one or two plays
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that are a little dicey. Yeah.
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And unfortunately, my guy Zander was, was at the at the center of
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both of them. Yeah.
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But he hung on man he. He that's.
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It happened. We're good.
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We're good, you know. We're in the clear.
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I felt super. Oh, OK, keep going.
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No, no, no, go ahead, Go ahead. I just had some.
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I had some. I was.
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I thought it was hilarious that Patrick Corbin actually diced
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like one one of his like best starts.
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I think he went 7 innings with like 7 punches like that's
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that's such a good start for him.
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And of course, it takes a no hitter to wash it away.
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OK, well, it's funny you brought that up.
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It's funny you brought that up. Hold on.
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I need to. I need to confirm here.
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Hold on. I got to tread lightly here.
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Hold on. What do you got?
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Hold on, what was the date of OK, we're not trying to get
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look, we are not going to get political on this podcast, but I
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need to say something because it's it's it's too funny, not
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funny. Funny is not the right word.
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It's too. Coincidental.
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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It's it's too interesting to ignore, I'll say that.
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July 13th, the date of the assassination attempt on
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President Donald Trump. Patrick Corbin.
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Diced. Widely, widely known Trump
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supporter. The memes were flying around.
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They said we're going to see a second-half from Patrick Corbin
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like we've never seen before. He's going to become the best
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pitcher in baseball. That was July 13th.
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In his two starts since that day, July 19th, 6 innings, 1
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earned run allowed, six punches for 21 fantasy points.
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I'm, I'm just mentioning this because I, I pulled it up on
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fantasy. And then today, 7 innings, only
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three earned runs allowed, seven KS for 13 fantasy points.
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We haven't seen that from Patrick Corbin since like a
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month or two ago. Yeah, that's tough.
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That's that's kind of what we're dealing with here over over
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there with Patrick Corbin. Look, I, like I said, I'm not
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getting political. I just you mentioned the name.
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He pitched well today, pitched well on his last start.
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I had to mention it back to Dylan Sees though.
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The man who threw the no hitter. According to MLB Stat Muse, a
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tool that you and I very much appreciate and and use
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frequently. Dylan Sees is the first pitcher
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to record 6 plus innings pitched, 0 or one hits allowed,
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zero runs allowed, nine plus strikeouts in three straight
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starts. I can say I'll, I'll read that.
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Do it again. We'll do it one more time.
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All right, so in three straight starts, for the first time in
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MLB history, Dylan Sees is the first pitcher to record 6 plus
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innings pitched, zero or one hits allowed, zero runs allowed
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with 9 plus strikeouts. In each 19 punches.
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In each one, three straight starts.
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Wow, first in history. Codify.
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Codify the other account that we like.
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I'm going to go with Codify. I think we should just stick to
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that. Codify a complete list of every
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pitcher in MLB history to have a three start run with 25 plus
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strikeouts and only two hits allowed.
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Dylan Cease, 30 strikeouts, two hits.
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That's the list. Good month of July, some would
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say. That ain't bad.
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That ain't bad. I'm really psyched that I traded
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him in fantasy like a couple of months ago.
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I'm. Same.
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I'm really not regretting that decision at all.
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I I'm I'm glad I did. Same.
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Really glad I did. Any other thoughts on the on the
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no hitter? Like I said, I want to.
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I want to keep us, keep us somewhat brief here.
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I don't want to don't let our last pod for the weekend drag
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on. I liked all of it.
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I liked it very good cool for I mean, one could argue it's it's
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pretty cool that it that it happened on a Thursday afternoon
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game, you know, because it's like.
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I'm I'm not arguing that. You never know when stuff's
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going to happen, so just because it's a Thursday, tap in still,
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you know what I mean? Just because there's only a
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couple teams playing. No, I'm going to need you to.
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No, I'm going to need you to convince me a little, present a
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more convincing argument for why I should be excited that it
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happened on a Thursday afternoon in front of 12 people.
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Because I'm not. I'm not.
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I'm not buying it. Because you should watch, that's
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why. Because you never know.
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Be equipped. Be prepared, you never know.
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No, just like for once it'd be nice to see.
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I mean, when's the last time we've seen a no hitter?
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That happened in front of like a sell out crowd at home.
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It happened on the road on getaway day in front of six
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people. It's baseball, Susan, that.
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Believe me, I get it. But sometimes, sometimes
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baseball lets us down a little bit.
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If we're barking barking at you, maybe I should be barking at
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you. You live in the area.
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You could have gone take a day off from work.
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I couldn't. I had to sea start.
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I couldn't, I couldn't. I had to be a chaperone.
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We went on a little food tour in Richmond today.
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It was kind of nice. I was, I was stuffing my face
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with, with local eats and I just happened to look down.
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Oh, there's the no hitter update.
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I should maybe I should maybe TuneIn.
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And then I had to, I had to watch the rest of it on the bus
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ride home. We had New Zealand meat pies.
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Excellent, by the way. It doesn't sound good.
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It was great. It was great.
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It was like a giant quiche almost, but it was like a no.
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It was like a it was like a chicken pot pie.
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It was like a pie, but it had meat in it.
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It was a handheld. It was pork.
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Yeah. You ate it like a sandwich.
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Almost. We had those.
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We had half pound cookies. These things were huge.
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Dude, if you're ever at a place that offers half pound cookies,
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first of all, get one, But second of all, break it up.
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Break it up into two sittings, because you're not going to want
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to eat that all at once. And then you, I did and I, it
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was a big mistake. And so I'm passing on the wisdom
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that I have since gained from that experience to, to the rest
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of you. And then our next stop, we got
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some, some local pizza. I was told it was the best pizza
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in the city. And it was like, is there a
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Costco around? Because if there is, then Costco
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automatically has the best pizza in the city because this I don't
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know if this is it. And then our last stop, Chad
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says if anyone is offering any cookie, you'd take it with a
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smile. Oh, I took it with a smile,
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Chad, believe me, believe me. But it was the aftermath of it
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that I I regret it a little bit. Honestly, I think I'm still
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feeling a little bit like I. You're not a kid anymore, you
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know. Kyle's tummy ain't ain't doing.
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It's not too happy right now. And then our final stop was at a
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little little Taco spot and had some, had some, had a Taco or
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two there. So that was our word.
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That was our food tour. It was all it was all covered.
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It was great. I didn't have to spend a dime.
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It was actually. Someone say you you climbed a
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bigger mountain than Dylan sees today.
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You know, some it's being, it's being said.
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Yeah. You're saying it.
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Around the local Richmond I I I heard a lot of locals or certain
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a. Lot of a lot of locals.
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I heard some some grumblings from like around the corners.
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I didn't want to follow up and ask because I didn't want to
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make it about me, but I did hear it so.
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Just going down to Richmond, breaking records.
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I mean, some you. I think you're you.
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You're right on it, man. I put up a better performance
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than Dylan C did today. Nobody.
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Nobody's asking how I'm feeling after the fact, but yeah.
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Whatever, get married at the get the Gatorade shower ready.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't need a trophy.
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I just, it's just another day's work for me, you know?
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You know, just just doing the honest work, you know, just.
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Doing the honest work, Murray says.
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Shift taking you to the Taco spot.
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We we got some good. We got some good tacos out there
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in Lai will say shout out, Murray, some excellent tacos out
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there in LA. I've I've, I've experienced it
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first hand and I tell you what, it's better than what we've got
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out here in, in good old Northern Virginia.
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I can promise you that. Let's talk about this Mason
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Miller injury, a cover up if I've ever seen one.
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Yeah, thank you. What are what are we?
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Doing here Martine Gallegos. I mean, look, I get it.
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You're I, I take that back, you're doing your job.
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This is on presumably the Oakland A's here.
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Martine Gallegos with excellent as Nate's over here doing hand
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exercises to to see how he could pot quite possibly awkwardly
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place a hand on a table and fracture it.
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A padded table, a padded table. How you could do that, I don't
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know. Martine Gallegos with the
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journalistic integrity that I'm, I presume that he has initially
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comes out and tweets also. I love, I love how we were
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talking about possibly making this a 30 minute episode.
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We're already 24. We're already there.
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We talked more about, I think we talked more about half pound
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cookies than we did a no hitter anyway, Martin Gallegos tweets.
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Per source, A's will place All Star closer Mason Miller on the
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injured list today with a fracture of the 5th metacarpal,
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which is your pinky in his left hand.
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Note his non pitching hand says it's a non pitching injury he
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suffered after pounding a padded training room table in
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frustration following Monday night's win.
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Hours later he comes out and says deletes the initial tweet
24:36
and then comes out and says important clarification on Mason
24:40
Miller injury. He did not pound the table out
24:42
of frustration. He put his hand down awkwardly
24:44
on the training table while getting ready to do an exercise.
24:48
Who's who's fracturing their pinky, placing their hand down
24:52
on a padded training table. Yeah, I don't bite.
24:55
This. Like I said, this is a cover up
24:57
if I've ever seen one. Where did it go?
25:00
I got super confused because I was at work and I got the, the
25:05
Bleacher Report like headline where it was like Mason Miller
25:09
broken hand IL like and it was like all caps like on table or
25:16
something like that. And I was like, are are you
25:20
saying he's still on the table for being traded because he's on
25:25
the IL like what am I? What am I reading here?
25:28
What are these words? I open it up and I'm like, what?
25:33
How do you place your hand awkwardly?
25:36
Not buying it, not buying it. Something, something's,
25:40
something's off here. Something's fishy.
25:42
I mean my, my whole thing is like what difference does it
25:45
make? The whole the whole purpose
25:47
your. Finger's still broken, you're
25:48
still not getting traded, and you're still.
25:51
Exactly that's what I'm saying. Like it this does not change the
25:54
fact that this screws up any and all plans that they had of
25:58
possibly maybe shipping them out for what I what I can only
26:04
imagine would be quite the hall that it doesn't matter if he
26:09
placed it down awkwardly. If he placed it down not
26:13
awkwardly, it's still fractured. It doesn't matter if he if he
26:17
was quote pounding a padded training room table or if he did
26:23
it wiping his butt, it doesn't matter.
26:26
It's a fractured pinky. And the reality is you can't
26:33
trade them even if you wanted to.
26:36
So why? Why come out with the cover up?
26:39
Because you can't tell some? A pitcher punching anything.
26:48
An inanimate object is far more believable to me than a pitcher
26:56
awkwardly placing their hand on a padded table and fracturing
26:59
it. So what's with the cover up?
27:05
What difference does it make? Exercise.
27:07
What kind of exercise is he about to do?
27:10
I I partially part of part of me doesn't even want to ask
27:14
because. Oh, this.
27:16
There's no shot. There's no shot.
27:18
I've broken my meta carpal. I've broken the the the 4th one.
27:22
This guy here that has to be jammed.
27:26
Like very hard. I don't.
27:29
I don't even like thinking about it.
27:30
I don't even like thinking. About the knuckle, I had a
27:32
boxer's fracture, so mine broke right here.
27:35
That's where the metacarpal is. It's not up here.
27:38
It's in the hand. So to do that, like it's,
27:42
there's no like if you do this way, it's like it dislocates.
27:45
You see like that video of Kobe where you got it dislocated and
27:49
they just like pull it back in and he goes back and playing.
27:52
You see like football players do that stuff.
27:54
The metacarpal has to be like, it has to be like jammed.
28:01
You know what I'm saying? Like there's no way for the
28:03
metacarpal to break unless there's like a hard impact.
28:07
You're not placing it on a table and then like falling or
28:11
something like that. Like that would be this part.
28:15
The metacarpal had to have been damaged by like force.
28:23
I'm not buying it. Like if you're the Oakland A's,
28:26
you legitimately want me to believe that a closer who
28:31
closers are notoriously just like I don't.
28:36
I'm angry. Angry maybe isn't the right
28:38
word. Maybe just like a little, maybe
28:40
a little bit of a screw loose. But sometimes, more often than
28:43
not, in a good way, they got like a little bit of a screw
28:45
loose, but in a in a way that gives them a competitive edge.
28:51
You're telling me that I'm supposed to believe that he
28:55
didn't channel that and and punch a training table out of
29:02
frustration and instead just gently place his hand down?
29:05
No, I'm not. Here's.
29:06
What I'm thinking, my man tried to go the smart move, he tried
29:10
to go glove hand and he tried to go towards a padded area like he
29:16
tried to go about this the right way.
29:18
I saw a tweet today. It was something along the lines
29:21
of like Mason Miller is like nobody we've ever seen.
29:25
He even tries to like punch the punch the table with his glove
29:31
hand. He's like Mason Miller's playing
29:33
chess while we're all playing chess.
29:34
That's true. I mean, I like this is so I
29:41
mean, I'm not going to I'm not going to beat a dead horse here,
29:43
but it's let's. Go one step.
29:44
Further, it's very clearly cover up.
29:46
Let's go one step further and say, hey, we didn't get any
29:52
offers we liked, but our fans and baseball is going to be
29:58
really pissed if we don't trade you.
30:00
So we need you to go punch that table with your glove hand.
30:06
I've already paid. I've already slipped.
30:08
Gallegos rider a 20. He's going to re correct his
30:12
prior statement. Done.
30:16
I knew it. I know exactly what's going on
30:18
in Oakland. Do you know what's going on with
30:22
this Oakland A's ticket situation?
30:24
Have you seen this? That the last the last home
30:27
game. Gabriel Hernandez tweeted John
30:31
Fisher and David Cavall, you're insane for making Oakland fans
30:35
pay $104.00 to sit in the third deck for the final A's home
30:39
game. You're terrible human beings.
30:40
And then includes a screenshot of the Oakland A's ticket
30:44
website. That's important.
30:45
This isn't like, secondary market here.
30:48
This isn't. This isn't the like reselling
30:50
market. This is Oakland AS website
30:55
that's that's showing you this price $104.20 for row 14, seat
31:03
14 and section 332. People go and pay it.
31:07
Oh, they absolutely are. But like how, how, how greedy
31:12
can you get? Like the amount of money that
31:16
you're going to make is so insignificant.
31:22
Insignificant that it's more insulting that you would bump up
31:28
the price to this. I don't know see the 10. 12X.
31:32
Based on where you're at, the ballpark, if if someone's going
31:36
there for the first time this year, you know what I'm saying?
31:40
You go to 10 games a year or you go to one game, that's you know,
31:43
you're going to make your money back somehow.
31:46
Business is business. No, I'm just kidding.
31:49
This is super scummy. But no, no, you're right.
31:52
Like business is business. Like when I when I first saw
31:55
this, my immediate reaction was like, well, yeah, I mean, you're
32:00
going to have a lot of people wanting to go to that.
32:03
I mean, you and I even kind of jokingly were like, oh, should
32:05
we go to the last Oakland A's game?
32:10
What do you why you give me that look?
32:14
Sorry it's our last chance, but. You trying to pull this off?
32:17
I don't know if I'm trying to go to Oakland, if I'm being quite
32:19
honest. You.
32:20
Already got the fit. I do, I do.
32:24
Well, I mean, I would I would probably wear that out there,
32:26
but if I got there, I'd probably invest in one of those nice
32:29
Kelly green uni's if I'm being honest.
32:33
No, but like what what I'm saying is, is like plenty of
32:39
people are are presumably wanting to go to this game.
32:43
I would imagine it's going to be a sell out.
32:44
So like I understand stop. You're not convincing me to go
32:48
to this stupid game. We can stay with Murray and just
32:51
drive down. I'm not drive.
32:52
I'm not driving to Oakland from LA.
32:55
No idea how far that is. Couldn't tell you how far that
32:57
is. California is big.
33:00
Actually, let's just do this real quick.
33:01
How far, Just out of curiosity? There we go.
33:04
Just get these. Get these.
33:06
Let's just go, let's go, stop. Let's go stadium to stadium.
33:09
How far is Dodger Stadium from Oakland Coliseum?
33:16
How far is Murray? 'S address.
33:17
No, I'm not driving 6 hours. That's 370 miles.
33:22
Oakland road trip. No, I'm not doing that for the
33:25
last game in Oakland. No, I'll pass.
33:28
I'm good. I'm good.
33:31
No, but what I'm saying is like, I, I get the business out of it.
33:34
I I really do. But like this like you have a
33:37
track record of screwing your fans over.
33:41
So I don't, I don't really care about the business side of it
33:45
here. Like if it was any other
33:46
organization maybe hiking the prices up, I'm like, that's
33:50
business as business, Susan. It's only 11 hours from here.
33:57
Stop. I'm not going Yeah.
34:02
So it's I'm not surprised. But like you said, it's still a
34:06
scummy move and it's just it's embarrassing.
34:09
It's just one more embarrassing move and really one final kick
34:17
to the gut, kick to the face, kick to whatever extremity
34:21
pretty much to to Oakland A's fans.
34:25
And look, I, I know I've gone on, I've gone on my own rants
34:29
about like, where were Oakland A's fans when they were making
34:32
the, the postseason? And now they're sad that the
34:35
team is leaving. And it's like, well, maybe you
34:36
should have been there when they were actually in the playoffs,
34:39
but you weren't during those seasons or the seasons after the
34:43
fact. So I, I take it with a grain of
34:46
salt, but this is still like, regardless how you feel about
34:50
that, about attendance figures from seasons prior, this is just
34:53
a scummy move. And.
34:58
I think it's kind of funny, personally.
35:02
It is what it is. I I don't know.
35:04
We're heading to Oakland. No, we're not heading to
35:08
Oakland. But Speaking of LA, Clayton
35:11
Kershaw made his return today. His season, his 2024 debut, went
35:17
four innings loud. Six hits, two earned runs, two
35:20
walks, 6 KS on 72 pitches. Honestly.
35:24
Sounds like a. Sounds like a normal.
35:28
Kershaw start Yeah. And what I was going to say is
35:31
like, you know, this may not be all that important to the
35:36
average person, but the thing that sticks out to me for
35:38
Kershaw and his his return is the 72 pitches.
35:41
Like I, I feel like for your first start of the year, that's
35:45
a, that's a decent place to be. And I hope that they would,
35:50
they're going to, I hope the plan is given that he's had the,
35:54
the first half of the season away, I would hope that they
35:58
would be able to stretch him out a little bit and, and let him,
36:01
let him eat a little bit as we, we come down the stretch here,
36:05
because everybody loves watching Kershaw throw.
36:08
I mean, who doesn't? What do you think like 8590 next
36:11
one out and then it's. Yeah, get him to 85 and then
36:16
maybe, maybe another one right around there.
36:18
And then from that point, like four, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, start,
36:22
whatever or however many he gets, let it eat.
36:25
They, they just don't really have the luxury of, of, you
36:27
know, they need them, the rotation needs them.
36:31
So he's a Hall of Famer. Like, as much as Dodgers fans or
36:37
baseball fans want a dog on him, he can still do his thing,
36:46
Kirsch. I'm about it really, really
36:49
wasn't much to to say on it. I just wanted to mention it
36:51
because I was hoping to touch on it next episode, but it
36:55
literally already happened today.
36:56
So why not? Why not mention it?
36:58
Another thing we got today, Garrett Crochet.
37:02
Little bit of an update there, a little bit of a little bit of a
37:07
Josh Hater esque stance being taken here from Garrett Crochet,
37:15
according to Alden Gonzalez. He tweeted Massive deadline
37:19
related development. In case you missed it, Garrett
37:23
Crochet's reps have told teams he will not pitch in the
37:27
playoffs without an extension and he prefers not to go to the
37:31
bullpen. I I don't like this.
37:40
I who do you think you are, First off?
37:51
You know what I'm saying? Like you're having a good year.
37:55
You have plenty of talent. Are you Max Scherzer, suddenly
38:04
are which like, who do you think you are calling these kinds of
38:08
shots? I get the bullpen thing.
38:12
I think that I can understand, like you, I think to this, to
38:15
this point, you've you've, you've earned your stay in the
38:20
rotation wherever you end up. I I believe that.
38:23
Yeah, you've pitched 184 innings in your in your big league
38:30
career. Who were you to call shots like
38:38
that? I, I don't understand, and I'm
38:46
going to go look up contract wise because I'm pretty sure
38:49
he's still under control. He's still in our beers, isn't
38:53
he? Yeah.
38:59
He's got two more years of arbitration left.
39:01
He's not even a free agent until 2027.
39:06
Who? Who are you?
39:11
I, I, I don't like this at all. Like I'm extremely turned off if
39:15
I'm AGM, Like I, I don't want this already coming through the
39:22
door. We haven't, I don't, you haven't
39:25
even to make a demand like that in reality.
39:31
Like I haven't seen a demand like that out of like a future
39:34
Hall of Famer out out of like a established veteran, much less a
39:40
guy starting games for, for the first year in his career.
39:50
You what are we talking in a, in an era now where we're so hyper
39:54
focused on pitch count and and inning count and longevity or,
40:00
or at least trying to hold on to longevity and health?
40:05
I get the bullpen thing. And I don't know if it's this
40:09
tweet or reports that are making it sound so demanding.
40:15
These aren't his words specifically.
40:18
Maybe it was. It's quoted better, maybe
40:20
saying, hey, like, I'd prefer to stay a starter.
40:24
But if I'm in a freaking White Sox uniform and I'm a part of
40:29
one of the worst seasons ever, I think my words are going to be
40:36
I'm down to get out of here wherever, and I'm down to do
40:41
whatever you need me to do to go win a ring.
40:43
Those are my comments. You have done nothing.
40:49
You've done nothing. You've done pretty well for a
40:53
team that no one's watching with no pressure on you.
40:58
That's it. And the only reason you're
41:02
allowed to say this stuff is because of the market just being
41:04
absolutely 0. There's no other starting
41:07
pitches out there at this caliber.
41:09
So I, I hate this and and I'm already turned off.
41:15
I don't I don't again, they they could have said this
41:19
differently. He could have his quotes, his
41:22
direct quotes could be different.
41:23
I don't know. But these reports and these
41:26
tweets about these demands are I'm, I'm all set.
41:31
Thank you, though. I'm going to add you to my
41:35
winning clubhouse, my winning team, my team going to get a
41:39
trophy and you're going to tell me the demands.
41:42
I'm saving you from a dumpster fire.
41:44
I'm saving you from the Titanic. You're going to do what I tell
41:49
you to do. I'm pretty tired of players just
41:54
having this level of entitlement when you've done nothing to
41:58
prove it. This is nothing.
42:00
You've pitched 1/2 a season. Well, all said, well, all said,
42:13
yeah, I, I don't really have much to add on to that as I'm
42:16
kind of right there with you. I, I just think it's silly when,
42:20
like you said, you look at the, you look at the body of work
42:23
that he's compiled over the course of his career.
42:25
It's really, it's really not much of A career yet.
42:29
Like he, he's, he's been here for a little while, but
42:33
certainly not long enough to be making any sort of demands.
42:36
That's, I mean, that's the reality.
42:38
Of it, it's it almost, it's it like it shoots your future team
42:42
in the foot. It shoots your current team in
42:43
the foot. The whole point of the
42:46
attraction is how cheap you are for the quality that you're
42:51
providing. You are cheap because you're
42:53
still under arbitration years. That's half the value of of what
42:58
the White Sox are holding in their hand.
43:01
So for you to put this out there, it diminishes it it, it
43:08
hurts the White Sox, which I don't think he really cares
43:10
about. When you say I'm, I'm trying to
43:13
track. When you say cheap, what do you?
43:15
Well, I mean, because he's an arbitration, he's worth, he's
43:17
worth, you know, a A1 year league minimum.
43:23
And if he wants to go to court or have an offer, I mean, I, I,
43:28
I maybe he's trying to avoid arbitration hearings.
43:31
Like I don't, I don't see the whole point of sitting here and
43:36
saying I haven't even completed this year yet.
43:38
But I'm a frontline starter and I'm ready for an extension, No?
43:47
I I see. Like I the whole point of this
43:50
is you're he's under control and he's cheaper than forking over,
43:55
you know what, a 20 to $25 million commitment.
43:58
He may get 1820 in an arbitration hearing.
44:04
I don't know. There may be a settlement offer.
44:07
I it all really depends. But like, it's a part of the
44:11
value. I'm not trading for you to then
44:17
buy out two years of your cheapest part of your career.
44:22
I'm buying you out to take advantage of that.
44:24
And then I'll extend you if if we're in a good spot.
44:26
It's just weird. It's just weird.
44:34
And I think it lessens the value because like it's, it's, I don't
44:41
know. Yeah, I think it it kind of
44:43
eliminates certain teams you could argue.
44:48
Speaking of trades, let's sort of wrap up here with a trade
44:56
that you think will happen by next episode.
45:01
And for those who are unfamiliar, for us, that will be
45:04
Sunday, Sunday. So essentially over the weekend.
45:08
What's a trade that you see happening this weekend ahead of
45:16
Tuesday's deadline? I going first, You going first?
45:24
I'll go first. OK, This is rather bold just
45:29
because I, I, I don't know, I don't know if the trigger finger
45:34
is this quite this happy for my for my Red Sox, But I really,
45:43
really like the fit. I like the move and I think it
45:48
would do wonders for vibes in that clubhouse.
45:55
Nate Ivaldi coming back home. Nate Ivaldi coming back home.
46:12
Was literally that was mine, that was mine.
46:15
He had him pulled up you're wait so you told me OK for for those
46:20
of you wondering like why am I why I'm reacting this way before
46:23
we started this episode Nate goes I've actually been cooking
46:26
one up that I haven't really seen on social media yet.
46:29
I. Could be wrong, I don't know.
46:30
I don't know. No, no, no.
46:31
It talks the way you follow, but I haven't seen that.
46:33
No, for sure, for sure. But it's just funny because I, I
46:39
dropped that and then Nate obviously is like, well, that's
46:43
mine. That's I had it, Yeah.
46:45
I mean, I had the same thing. I had it pulled up because I was
46:48
looking at his contract. He has a vesting option for next
46:52
year and I was looking up like I don't know if the vesting part
46:56
of it is tradable necessarily, but it was saying it's a
47:01
$2,000,000 player option if he does 300 innings across 2023.
47:09
That's right, I remember 2024. I looked this up recently.
47:13
And so I was looking at his innings.
47:14
That's why I was on his VR page. Yeah.
47:16
And he's at like 250. Yeah, he's at 2:50 right now.
47:25
So 50 more innings and he crosses that threshold.
47:29
So I don't know if that's like a thing.
47:31
Yeah. That was that was my that was my
47:32
trade idea. What I mean, what's your, what's
47:35
your reasoning behind it? I, I'll give you mine and, and
47:38
tell me if I'm crazy here. Tell me if I'm like that far
47:41
off. I just felt like the Red Sox may
47:43
not be able to do a ton at the deadline.
47:47
And I don't know if there's like there.
47:49
I, I, you could speak to this better than I can, but I think
47:52
that there's a few holes that they probably won't be able to
47:56
address. And so this is almost like a
47:58
splashy enough name that the fan base can get around and be
48:02
excited about, but at the same time adds like an umph, adds
48:07
like a spark, adds like a. It's a morale.
48:10
Boost big morale boost. It's, you know, he's a core guy,
48:14
he's a Red Sox guy, he's a fan guy.
48:15
He's and he's a, you know, had post season success.
48:19
Like it almost like checks boxes that no other player could.
48:23
So that's why I had that in my head.
48:26
Am I close? Is that about?
48:28
Yeah, no, like for me you need, you need a starter like you need
48:32
pitching help. I mean, yeah, you need some,
48:36
some pen help. But based on the the starting
48:41
pit, like you already talked about, the market is lacking a
48:44
little bit right now. And I think that this is right
48:50
in the Red Sox wheelhouse right now where you we just talked
48:53
about it. You went out and extended Alex
48:56
Gore. You've made it clear that you
48:58
are going to get serious about this team.
49:03
If you're the front office in in Boston, you've made it clear
49:05
that you were by by bringing Alex Gore back.
49:08
The conversation had to have taken place with him in that
49:11
that some promise had to be made of like we are going to get
49:14
serious about this team. This is a way to do that because
49:18
we know that even though they may want to get serious about
49:21
the team, they're not going to go crazy at the trade deadline.
49:24
Like they're they're not going out and getting Terry Scubal.
49:27
They're not going to trade for Garrett Crochet.
49:30
But this is like right there in that wheelhouse of them if they
49:34
are in fact serious about this team and they want to implement
49:37
that mindset right away at this deadline.
49:40
Like forget waiting till the offseason.
49:42
If you want to, if you want to get things started off on the
49:44
right foot with with Alex Korra now extended, go out and get a
49:49
guy like native ALDI, who like you said, fan guy, core guy,
49:53
just a Red Sox guy. He's going to bring you value.
49:57
He's going to help out that rotation.
49:58
He's going to eat innings. And then it gives you still a
50:03
little bit of what you're not putting all your eggs in the
50:05
basket of of going out and getting a guy like scuba or
50:07
crochet. It gives you still a little bit
50:09
of flexibility to go out and and get a guy that you can
50:16
supplement the line up with. Because I think they need a,
50:18
they need a power bat in there to supplement the the offense a
50:22
little bit. But this, this just makes sense
50:24
to me. It's, I don't, I don't know, it
50:26
just makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
50:29
That's, that's crazy. That's crazy.
50:33
Did you have like any idea when I said that?
50:35
No, I I wouldn't have just have expected you to pick up a Red
50:38
Sox. Train for like your one train.
50:41
It just came to my head like like a week, week and a half ago
50:44
because I'm just like, I think there's only so much the Red Sox
50:48
can do. I think it's like, are they
50:51
willing to go towards those bigger names that a lot of these
50:55
other, I won't say more ready teams, but like, I think a
51:01
bigger contender, you know, like a Dodgers or Orioles, like are
51:05
they going to be able to do what those teams are going to do?
51:08
You know? So, yeah, that's wild.
51:11
All right. Well, like, I'm going to try to
51:13
come up with something on the fly here.
51:15
You don't have to. We we talked a little bit longer
51:17
on the Ivaldi thing. You don't.
51:19
You don't need to come up with any on the fly.
51:21
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The little one, little guy.
51:26
Diamondbacks are acquiring AJ Puck from the Marlins.
51:29
That does. Little little guy, little guy.
51:32
That does less than nothing for me.
51:33
I just. I just saw passing breaking
51:35
news, so I had to. Oh, gosh, throw that out there.
51:39
Yeah, it does. All right.
51:42
Well, give me give me Tanner Scott to the Orioles before the
51:54
before the weekend's over. I think this, it's just funny.
51:59
Like I think they just, I think Craig Kimbrell just blew a save
52:04
to the Marlins today. You're already in Miami.
52:09
So, you know, make that happen. I like that.
52:13
I like that. That's off the cuff, but he's
52:15
going. He's going.
52:16
Oh, for sure. Yeah.
52:17
He's going somewhere. Jazz is going somewhere, yeah.
52:21
It's just a matter of where wrapping up here.
52:25
I love how we said short episode knew that wasn't going to happen
52:28
normal. I mean, we're we're pushing an
52:30
hour so that that's that's cool. Wrapping up for good here
52:34
though, with the details of our wager.
52:37
Oh yeah, if you listened to last episode, I think we did.
52:40
We close out with speculating on what it could be.
52:44
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
52:45
So the deal, the the the don't don't.
52:48
Say the specifics. Just say.
52:51
Yeah, yeah. No, no, I was just going to lay
52:53
out the the details of if you haven't listened to the last
52:55
episode, but first of all, go listen to the last episode, get
52:57
caught up. But as a reminder, we are going
53:01
to be making a a friendly wager here between the last two
53:06
remaining series between the Yankees and Red Sox, the first
53:09
of which is happening this weekend starting Friday through
53:12
Sunday. And then I think they meet again
53:15
in September towards the end of the season 4.
53:18
Games Four games set then. Four games set, so seven games
53:21
total. So this bet is going to be
53:23
stretched out over the course of the the remainder of the season.
53:26
So it'll, it'll be it'll be fun to have to have to wait, wait it
53:32
out a little bit. But we have decided the wager.
53:35
We decided before we hopped on, we kind of talked through some
53:38
things. How I mean, you don't want me to
53:40
reveal the details, but like how far I'll I'll let you say
53:44
because you, you clearly have an idea in your mind of like how
53:47
far you want me to to let on about the details.
53:50
Yeah, I, I, I just, there's a, there's a T-shirt that's going
53:56
to there's, that's going to be evolved.
53:59
There's a couple T-shirts that. There's one one of two T-shirts,
54:03
yeah, that will be, will be, will be designed, will be
54:07
created. Yep.
54:09
That the loser is going to have to wear.
54:13
Yep, then it's it's for 10 episodes, 10 episodes before
54:20
opening day of next year, with the 10th episode being right
54:25
around that area. Maybe we still got to figure
54:27
those details out. I don't know.
54:28
I mean, it you, you were worried about it being on the hot takes
54:31
episode, but I, I think that'd be pretty fire if it if it was
54:35
it's. Going to have to be 10 episodes
54:37
of the winner's choice during the offseason up until opening
54:43
day. Yeah, 'cause the obviously with
54:46
the series not being finished until the end of September, we
54:49
got to order the shirt 'cause we're making it, It's custom and
54:53
then we got the postseason. It's going to be tough.
54:55
So most likely going to be all offseason stuff, but let's just
55:00
say it's not. Either way, it's not a desirable
55:05
piece of attire. No, it's definitely not.
55:07
It's going to make for make for some good last.
55:09
But do we want to include the other bit about it?
55:12
Oh yeah, so the loser is 100% it going to be a donor to the other
55:22
teams foundation, charitable foundation.
55:25
So just to put it out there of like, hey, I am giving to the
55:30
Red Sox or you are giving to the Yankees, which just kind of
55:35
stings a little bit in its own. Way, yeah, but it's for a good.
55:38
It'll be good for a good cause. Yeah, something good will come
55:41
out of this in addition to the laughs that I'm sure that that
55:44
are coming for for the loser from the people.
55:47
So looking forward to that. It all starts this weekend,
55:52
Friday night. Should we have like a like a
55:55
bonus, any kind of bonus bonus? No.
56:00
If there's like a sweep or something like that, there's
56:06
it's like a kicker, you know what I mean?
56:08
I'm going to cut up the episodes that you got to wear it for.
56:12
Could go screensaver like of the whatever Photoshop that we're
56:17
doing, that has to be the screensaver.
56:20
That could be tough. Absolutely not doing that.
56:23
I. Can't wait for people to see
56:25
what the T-shirts. Are going to what I cook up what
56:29
I cook up? Wow.
56:32
So big weekend. Dude, I'm not trying to have a
56:34
screensaver pop up in church. And then they'd be like, my
56:38
brother, what is that? Well, everyone in church is
56:43
obviously listening to the podcast, so of.
56:45
Course, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, OK, looking forward to
56:50
that. That'll be fun.
56:53
Depending upon who you want to see win or lose that vet be sure
56:57
to to pull for the respective club this weekend.
57:01
Give send some good vibes and some good, some some mojo.
57:05
I I could say both of our teams need it.
57:09
One a little more than the other all.
57:11
Right, we both are yours. We're we're.
57:13
Doing all right, We're doing all right.
57:15
Sure, we're doing OK. That'll do it.
57:18
Another another short episode in the books.
57:22
Good stuff. That was fun.
57:24
Brought the juice. Enjoy the trade deadline.
57:28
Buckle up for Sunday's sash, Monday's episode, 'cause I'm
57:32
sure there's going to be a lot to talk about there.
57:33
So you guys are awesome. Don't go chase curveballs.
57:39
Le'veon is always looking forward to talking more baseball
57:41
with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.