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Jets Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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  Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly Football is finally back. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna give a quick update on everything that's happened since
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  Speaker 1: we last spoke, preview the week one matchup in New
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  Speaker 1: York against the Jets, and then we will do our
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  Speaker 1: week by week win loss prediction for this twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: five Pittsburgh Steelers team. I'm Nick de Tulo and is
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  Speaker 1: always I'm joined by the world famous accountant Eric vanmin
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  Speaker 1: Showt and Eric, how are you today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not too shabby, just joined some football and in
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati weather's about seventy five and sunny, so it feels
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  Speaker 2: like it's football season.
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  Speaker 1: To be yes, and it is not a coincidence. The
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  Speaker 1: NFL is literally kicking off as we speak. They have
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  Speaker 1: done the opening kickoff in the inaugural game. The Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: are in Philadelphia, so it is good to be back.
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  Speaker 1: The Steelers are gonna play on Sunday. But before we
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  Speaker 1: get to that, let's talk a little bit about what's
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  Speaker 1: happened this offseason so far with the Steelers. So couple
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  Speaker 1: two things, well yeah, really, two things have happened since
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  Speaker 1: we last spoke. Jail and Warren got a two year
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  Speaker 1: contract extension, and Cam Hayward is possibly holding out. He's
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  Speaker 1: looking for another deal as well. So let's start with
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  Speaker 1: the Jail and Warren deal again. It is a two
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  Speaker 1: year extension, so he was here for this year. Now
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  Speaker 1: he's got two extra years. On top of that. You
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  Speaker 1: have to remember the Steelers drafted running back as well,
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  Speaker 1: but we did let Najie Harris leave in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask you, Eric, what are your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the Jail and Warren contract deal.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think it's a.
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  Speaker 2: Medium size risk for medium size reward. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he's going to light the league on fire,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, six million dollars for starting running back
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  Speaker 2: seems like on par I think really will come.
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  Speaker 3: Down to his usage, right, like will he be a
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  Speaker 3: lead back or is going to be a split back.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I've always been pretty happy with Jalen Warren
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  Speaker 1: as a player. I understand that he has split time
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  Speaker 1: with Najie Harris, and while we have had certain beefs
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  Speaker 1: with Nagy, he has been a dependable running back. He's
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  Speaker 1: never missed significant time until this season, actually, but he's
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  Speaker 1: not on the Steelers anymore, and he's just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different style than Jalen Warren, so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: that really complimented him. I think Jalen Warren knew that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's probably why he signed this deal. It's still
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  Speaker 1: a good pay raise, it's still some guarantees for him,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it looks like they maybe want to
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  Speaker 1: keep using him in tandem with the new running back
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  Speaker 1: Kill Johnson too. So well, for what this is, I'm
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  Speaker 1: totally fine with it. I don't think it's a huge
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  Speaker 1: risk like you alluded to, but it keeps a pretty
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  Speaker 1: solid running back I think on the Steelers' roster as
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  Speaker 1: a good compliment to the other running backs that they
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  Speaker 1: already that they've drafted and have on the team as well.
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  Speaker 1: So that continent. Yeah, that continuity is great. And again
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's been a thousand or fifteen
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  Speaker 1: hundred yard rusher every year, but anecdotally speaking, I've liked
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  Speaker 1: the guy when I've seen him play. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: a tough player. I think he plays hard, and I
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  Speaker 1: think he's good a good part of a one two
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  Speaker 1: punch at a minimum.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, going back to the Naj Harris thing,
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  Speaker 2: who would I have rather seen the money go to
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  Speaker 2: or Yeah, I just don't. I think he's more explosive.
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  Speaker 3: I think he gives us more of a dynamic that
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  Speaker 3: we're looking for. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now the other really interesting Cam Hayward. Your news
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  Speaker 1: surrounds Cam Hayward. He just signed a contract last season
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  Speaker 1: and now he is holding out. It seems he's holding out.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't. He's kind of been holding in, I guess
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  Speaker 1: is the correct word. Although today he did not suit
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  Speaker 1: up in practice at all. He has been saying that
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  Speaker 1: he outplayed his contract and he wants a new one.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm a little on the fence with this one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but it's tough for me
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  Speaker 1: to get on board with a guy who did just
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  Speaker 1: sign a new contract, is at the very tail end
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  Speaker 1: of his career as good as he is has been
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  Speaker 1: and is still. But then this offseason you'll recall that
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  Speaker 1: he was given Aaron Rodgers grief. You know, either you
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  Speaker 1: want to be a Steeler you don't. So it just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really sit well with me, Although I mean I
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  Speaker 1: do I understand that he possibly he has been underpaid
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  Speaker 1: throughout a lot of his career, but the timing of
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  Speaker 1: this just seems really weird. On top of everything else too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.
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  Speaker 2: Think what doesn't sit well is, Look, you signed an
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  Speaker 2: agreement last year. I mean, this isn't an aging deal
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  Speaker 2: that you've been you know, signed a six year deal.
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  Speaker 3: You're in the fourth year of it, and now you're.
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  Speaker 2: Middle of the pack or the lower end of your
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  Speaker 2: defensive tackle position. I mean, he's still among the highest
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  Speaker 2: paid and among the highest paid on the Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I mean he signed it eleven months ago, so
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess he's older.
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  Speaker 2: He's trying to cash out, but and he's trying to
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  Speaker 2: make it seem like he had made money throughout his career.
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  Speaker 3: DU's pulled in like one hundred and seventy million over
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  Speaker 3: his career, so I think he's doing okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I really just want to go back to
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  Speaker 1: the hole. You either want to be a Steeler or
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  Speaker 1: you don't. Yeah, I don't know. Just talk about putting
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  Speaker 1: foot in mouth, right, So Yeah, I would be surprised though,
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  Speaker 1: if he didn't play when the season started, I would
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  Speaker 1: be shocked that being I mean, he doesn't need the
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  Speaker 1: practice every day like a rookie might need it. It's
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  Speaker 1: not the end of the world, but we'll have to
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  Speaker 1: see what happens. I would say, if if he plays,
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  Speaker 1: then find no hard feelings. You guys can talk about
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  Speaker 1: it next off season. Just don't wait until the last
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  Speaker 1: month before the season starts. If he doesn't play, then
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  Speaker 1: I think things are going to turn on him pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 1: But who knows, we'll see. The other thing you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: before and which I thought was interesting and definitely worth
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  Speaker 1: talking about, was the Micah Parsons trade. So Micah Parsons
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  Speaker 1: had been lobbying for a new deal from Jerry Jones
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  Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. The Cowboys had been negotiating with him,
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  Speaker 1: but ultimately, instead of coming to a deal together, they
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  Speaker 1: dealt him to the Green Bay Packers for two first
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  Speaker 1: round picks and a and a player. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know who the player is offhand.
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  Speaker 3: It's Kenny Clark.
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, thank you, sir. So the Packers gave him
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  Speaker 1: a new deal. He's now surpassed TJ Watt for the
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  Speaker 1: highest paid non quarterback. So it's interesting. I think that
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad the Steelers signed TJ before the trade, because
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  Speaker 1: if they didn't then they I'm sure TJ would be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: now if they paid him this, I need to at
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  Speaker 1: least match that with some more. But it's just a
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  Speaker 1: just kind of funny how the market can reset within
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks notice, just due to the timing of things.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't just like you know sometimes you'll see it
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  Speaker 2: where like a quarterback gets paid fifty million and someone
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  Speaker 2: gets fifty point five million.
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  Speaker 3: It was six.
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  Speaker 2: Million dollars more a year than TJ. Now, I know
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  Speaker 2: he's younger, but you know, it's not chump change. What
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  Speaker 2: was kind of thrown around for that that kind of deal.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know your thoughts about it, but I
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  Speaker 2: see a lot of people giving the Cowboys a lot
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  Speaker 2: of flak. But and I know that those draft picks
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  Speaker 2: aren't going to be much other than late first rounders.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of see why the Cowboys did it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we talked about it a little bit with TJ.
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  Speaker 1: Watt too. I mean it was very briefly. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think either of us expected the Steelers to trade him,
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  Speaker 1: but the logic was, if you don't think you can
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  Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with him, you might as well
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  Speaker 1: get rid of him and get some good picks while
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  Speaker 1: he still has value, and then he can go to
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  Speaker 1: a team that thinks they can win the super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: because no team that is in a win now mode
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  Speaker 1: is going to really care about those first round picks
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  Speaker 1: if they think they've got a legitimate shot to win
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  Speaker 1: a super Bowl this season.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what the Packers are saying in effect. Right,
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  Speaker 1: they think that they can win a super Bowl this
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  Speaker 1: year or very very soon after if they can acquire him,
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  Speaker 1: and they were willing to give up two years of
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  Speaker 1: first round picks for that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that the movement make sense for the
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  Speaker 2: Packers too, right, Yeah, Jordan Love, I think he's not.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's on the fringe being a top ten quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't have the top ten medmouries right now, but.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think that him and that team they've been
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  Speaker 2: a playoff contender, but this might shove them over the edge.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think it's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: rare win win.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of the criticism the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: are getting is, yes, you got draft picks, but do
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  Speaker 1: you trust the man who's going to be making the selections. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Plus his comments, I understand what he was saying, but
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  Speaker 1: he said those draft picks could be Pro bowlers, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, you just gave up a pro.
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  Speaker 3: Bowler, buddy, So well that's true.
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  Speaker 2: But I you know, as much as people give Jerry grief,
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  Speaker 2: he has drafted Michael Parsons while picking up a third rounder. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: he drafted Zach Martin. I believe he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 3: Is a guard.
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  Speaker 2: They've picked up Dak Prescott, which give him as much
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  Speaker 2: grief as you have, like because you don't think he's
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  Speaker 2: a top five, top ten whatever quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: He's a fourth rounder.
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  Speaker 2: I mean a Day three pick being your starting quarterback
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  Speaker 2: for a decade, that's.
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  Speaker 3: A pretty good pick. So I'm not saying he's perfect, but.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I I think he gets a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more flat than other people.
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  Speaker 3: But he also kind of puts it on himself.
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  Speaker 1: That is true. But now I'm with you. I certainly
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  Speaker 1: understand the value in getting the draft picks for the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think MICHAEH. Parsons was gonna keeping him was
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  Speaker 1: going to get them to a Super Bowl this. I
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  Speaker 1: think they've got other things they need to worry about. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: they looked pretty good on offense on that first drive,
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  Speaker 1: scoring in about three minutes. But yeah, if they can
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  Speaker 1: utilize those picks, well, I think they can position themselves
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  Speaker 1: pretty good moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: Into the future here, Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well that's enough Dallas cowboy talk. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into the Pittsburgh Steelers. So we are here at Week one.
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  Speaker 1: The Week one matchup is going to be in New
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  Speaker 1: York at MetLife Stadium against the Jets. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is the first time in NFL history where the two
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  Speaker 1: teams are playing Week one and the quarterbacks were on
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  Speaker 1: the opposite team the year before. So yeah, definitely interesting
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  Speaker 1: and a rare occurrence. Of course, talking about Justin Fields
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  Speaker 1: leaving the Steelers for the Jets, he had one injury
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  Speaker 1: scare this year, but he seems to have recovered pretty well. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this is a big unknown game. Last year, I thought
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  Speaker 1: the stakes of the game in Week one were unknown
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  Speaker 1: because we had if you recall Kirk Cousins coming off
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  Speaker 1: of his injury for the Falcons. We thought we were
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  Speaker 1: going to have Russell Wilson starting Week one, but it
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  Speaker 1: ended up being Justin Fields. This season, it's there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions here. You've got Justin Fields starting for
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  Speaker 1: New York, and the question is was he handcuffed last
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  Speaker 1: year by the Steelers or is that just how he operated?
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  Speaker 1: Has he made any improvements? And then you've got, of
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  Speaker 1: course Aaron Rodgers, who you could say some of the
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  Speaker 1: same things about him. Was he handcuffed by being a
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  Speaker 1: member of the New York Jets? Is the playbook going
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  Speaker 1: to be opened up for him? Does he really care
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  Speaker 1: what the offensive coordinator says or is he just going
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  Speaker 1: to do what he wants to do? And then, of
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  Speaker 1: course we do have the Steelers defense, which.
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  Speaker 3: While.
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  Speaker 1: Above average, certainly looked gas towards the tail end of
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  Speaker 1: last year, particularly against the run game. So the question is,
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  Speaker 1: I think the big question is which Aaron Rodgers is
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  Speaker 1: going to show up? You mentioned it on one of
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  Speaker 1: our last episodes where you said, we can talk about
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  Speaker 1: the injury he suffered two years ago all we want,
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  Speaker 1: but you didn't think that he was that great as
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  Speaker 1: last year in Green Bay, which was obviously pre injury.
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  Speaker 1: So so who's going to show up? And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I where I'll leave it and get your initial take
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  Speaker 1: looking at this game. What are some of the takeaways
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  Speaker 1: that you're looking at?
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  Speaker 2: You know, honestly, best case scenario is Russell Wilson middle
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  Speaker 2: of the season. Bad worst case scenario is Russell Wilson
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  Speaker 2: end the season.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I really, I think tread in the same tire.
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  Speaker 2: And both of them, over the course of their career
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  Speaker 2: have been efficient quarterbacks taking care of the ball. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't quite see that as much towards the end of
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  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's time with us. But you know, I'll give credit.
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  Speaker 3: To Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 2: I think I saw a stat last ten games, he
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  Speaker 2: threw eighteen touchdowns four interceptions. If there's a coach in
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  Speaker 2: the league, I mean, all coaches don't want you to
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  Speaker 2: turn the ball over. If there's a coach in the
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  Speaker 2: league that values not turning the ball over versus gaining yards.
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  Speaker 3: It's Mike Tomlin.
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  Speaker 2: That the dude loves possession football. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: that maybe it's a maybe it's a marriage that was destined.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I just don't see it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't see it taking us to a new level because
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  Speaker 2: it is a forty one year old Aaron Rodgers, not
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  Speaker 2: thirty one year old Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's my concern as well. What are we
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  Speaker 1: getting and even what you said, what you think the
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  Speaker 1: best case scenario is mid season Russell Wilson, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a good chance that that could be the ceiling. But again,
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  Speaker 1: if the Steelers don't turn the ball over. Going back
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  Speaker 1: to the end of the Kenny Pickett era, which was
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett's biggest or only strength, if you will, was
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  Speaker 1: that he did not turn the ball over. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why the Steelers were able to win all those games.
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  Speaker 1: I remember it was two years ago or three, that
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous stat where they they the only thing they want
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  Speaker 1: in was the score and the turnover battle. They literally
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  Speaker 1: lost time of possession, lost in yards, gained, lost by
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  Speaker 1: every metric. No team had ever done that before and
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  Speaker 1: still had a winning record. The fears that I have though, did.
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  Speaker 3: You know that?
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that we won the turnover battle twelve
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  Speaker 2: times last year?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to tell me that the times we
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  Speaker 1: didn't were the last five games?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm just saying, normally, if you win
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  Speaker 2: the turnover battle that many times, your record should be.
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  Speaker 2: That tends to be your you know, your win differential,
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  Speaker 2: which we what finished nine and eight, so we lost
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  Speaker 2: three games because we didn't turn them all over. But
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  Speaker 2: we also didn't move the ball at all. So right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it'll just be interesting to see how this
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  Speaker 2: works out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the defense too, let's not forget about them
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  Speaker 1: as well. We re signed t J. Watt. We already
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  Speaker 1: talked about Cam Hayward. You've got a couple of new
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  Speaker 1: defensive players. Obviously you lose Minka Fitzpatrick, but you gain
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. You got Darius slay back there as well.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the second well really not the second year.
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  Speaker 1: This is third or fourth year in a row where
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers have made some moves on defense to try
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  Speaker 1: to make things happen. I'm interested to see what they
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  Speaker 1: do there. I am. I'm a little torn because on
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  Speaker 1: one hand, I feel like defense should be fine this
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  Speaker 1: game against the Jets. I do kind of feel for
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  Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I don't think he really did anything wrong
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  Speaker 1: in his time with the Steelers. I think he was
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  Speaker 1: very professional, professional. It's how he handled everything. But I
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  Speaker 1: just don't I don't think he's gonna come up and
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  Speaker 1: light them up in this game. No, So all right,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think the final score is gonna be?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we put a lot of faith in both
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  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks on. So yeah, I'm not expecting a shootout
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, if you watched.
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  Speaker 2: Any of the college football Week one, the defensive slug
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  Speaker 2: fest as were rampant, there wasn't a lot of scoring.
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  Speaker 3: So I see this going the same way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go seventeen to thirteen Steelers, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I think that's fair. That's probably what I would
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  Speaker 1: have said to you know, I'll just be in total
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  Speaker 1: lockstep with you, seventeen thirteen Steelers. I think to your
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  Speaker 1: point about the defensive slug fests in Week one college football,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a little harder for the offense to get
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  Speaker 1: all their details and sync with each other, whereas on defense,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's just a little easier on defense to
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  Speaker 1: attack the guy with the ball, know your coverages. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot more timing that's involved on all. I guess
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  Speaker 1: we should say so. Yeah, So I agree with your logic,
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  Speaker 1: and there you have it. The Steelers should win Week
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  Speaker 1: one in New York against the Jets. I would tell
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just stay away from that one spot of
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  Speaker 1: the field though we don't, don't. Yeah, And then at
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  Speaker 1: least the at least if history repeats itself. The Mason
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  Speaker 1: Rudolph fans would get their wish and he would have
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: one last chance.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: But I'll hold my breath until the fifth play of
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe we should just defer and then deal with it
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in the second half. Yeah, all right, there you go, folks.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Well it is that time of year. This is week one,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: So Eric and I are going to go through week
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: by week here and give our predictions. Don't have to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: do scores on this. I think, by and large though,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: we are usually right on the DoD or within a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: game or two of what we think the record's going
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to be. So almost like I was just gonna say
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that you beat me to it, all right, so give
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: me one second tier, Eric, Nick, I've even got my
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Microsoft Excel up here, so I've got in a spreadsheet
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: for us, Eric the CPA. Can we probably really appreciate
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the spreadsheet I've got going here?
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: There you go?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: All right, So we both already have wins in New
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: York against the Jets. All right, Week two home opener
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. What are your I'd say, let's just
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: keep each give our quick thoughts and what we think
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the result is gonna be.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, two great defenses going at it. I'm
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: gonna go lost for the Steelers.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Interesting, I'm gonna give them the win. Being at home,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You've got a DK Metcalf revenge game, and I'm just
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: not convinced that Darnold is going to walk in and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: be the be the quarterback of the future for the franchise.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Next game is at New England.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this one. I'm not a Drake May believer. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: think the Steelers win.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, I would also like to give the Steelers the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: win here. I think I'm going to although this just
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: feels like a classic Tomlin trap game where if we're
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: following my record, my record so far, well, we'll be
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to and oh, we'll be feeling pretty good and looking
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: at the Patriots, who I think, while taking the right
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: direction and hiring Mike Vrabel, are still probably a year
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: or two away from being where they want to be.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: But again that being said, this is the kind of
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: game that we've seen the Steelers lose year after year.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, next game against the Vikings in Ireland.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Steelers are gonna give a I'm
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: gonna call him a rookie because he didn't play any
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: of the last year, A hard time in JJ McCarthy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: So Steelers an international.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Game, Yeah, I am going to give them the loss here.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I agree with your logic on McCarthy. I just again,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: looking at what I've got, I just don't see the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Steelers going four oh so just playing the numbers, that's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: all it is. Week five is the bye, so a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: very early by. Again, I feel like we have early
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: buyes most more often than not. On one hand, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate that they get the buye after the international game
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to get some extra rest and recuperation. On the other hand,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that's just a lot of football left to play in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the year.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: The next matchup is at home against the Browns.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I can name twenty nine better teams in the NFL
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: better than the brown So Steelers.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I'm also going to give them a win because this
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: is the Browns, all right. Next game is in Cincinnati.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be tough on.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I think that the Burrow, I think is going to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: have a year. So I did not see us having success,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: especially at Cincinnati.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give them the l because they're in Cincinnati.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: The Steelers, I think have actually fared pretty well against
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and we know the detail of the Bengals are.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: It's all about Joe Burrow, right, They've got no one
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: on defense except for Hendrickson, who they did just resign.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: But to beat the Bengals, you're gonna have to win
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in a shootout. And I you said it best. This
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: isn't thirty one year old Aaron Rodgers. So yep, I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: gonna go l on that as well. Next game is
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: at home against the Packers.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Man just toward to Rogers right there.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Packers is going to be I said,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: twenty nine teams rather than the Browns.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in the Packers. I think they'll
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: be good this year.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So I don't think that we'll fare well on Sunday night.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him the w I'm gonna trust that
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Rogers is gonna take care of business and do what
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: he needs needs to do primetime game against his old team.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Next is at home against the Colts.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I can name twenty eight teams.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Uh, who's their quarterback? I mean it's picking up some scraps.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Over there, Daniel Jones.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we also owned the Colts. We always owned the Colts.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it last year that we lost a stupid game
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: against them? We shouldn't have lost.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: We own them.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll just ignore that one.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: We have Rogers. Now, it's like the Bears. Right, he
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: owns the Bears, he owns the Colts.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get to the Bears. Don't worry about that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll give the Steelers a win here too.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I just I know we already had a game that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I marked as an l that they they should lose,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: but this just seems to me like a game that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: we all know they should win and they're just gonna
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: do something stupid. So yeah, but I am going to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: give them the w even though I'm I'm reluctant to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: do so. All right, next game is at the Chargers.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I will say, as a dad of young children, I
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: am very happy to have night games so I can
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: focus on watching these games, and this one will be
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: very much a must watch.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I gotta go Chargers. I think they'll be really good
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Chargers are are a better team.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm still waiting. I think everyone is still waiting
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: for them to finally take that next step is this
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: year they're going to do it. I don't know. A
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: traveling West has not been kind to the Steelers historically,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: speaking at least in the Mike tomin era, So I'm
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: kind of with you. I'm gonna give them the l here.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Next at home against the Bengals.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Ah, this might be the hardest one to pick. I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: gonna give him a win. I don't think that will go.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I think we'll go five hundred in the division, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think those wins will come against the Ravens.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give them the win too. I just
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna split with Cincinnati. I mean, I could
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: have it backwards. There's been years where they split the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: away games. Yeah, but I'm just gonna give them the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: win here because I think they split. You mentioned them already,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: but here they are. The next game is in Chicago
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: against the Bears.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I've heard that the Bears are the ascending team for
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: eight years now, since they've drafted Mitch Rubisky. And you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: know what, I've never seen it, and I don't think
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: we'll see it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Steelers win.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: You said it before. This is the team that Aaron
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Rodgers owns, and he takes great pride in owning. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: think the Steelers could go one and sixteen and be
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: like the worst team you've ever seen in those sixteen losses.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: But the one game they will not lose is this game.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give them the W for that one,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just purely because I don't think Aaron Rodgers is gonna
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: let that happen.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I think this next one's gonna be a pretty easy call.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's going to be at home against the Bills.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not in December yet, but might as well be.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: That's when the Steelers start to drop off, and this
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: is the stock start.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: We lose well, and we've got some four out of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: six or what. We've got some pretty good teams in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: here too. The Bills are, of course, still one of
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the top tier teams in the league. They've got Josh Allen,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: They've got all these weapons. I just don't think the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Steelers are ready compete. So yeah, even though it is
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: at home, I am going to give the Steelers the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: l as well. Next game is going to be at Baltimore.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, barring and I'm not hoping for this barring an injury.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I saw an amazing stat.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson has won twelve point six games in which
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: he's played a full season. Like what I mean, guys
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: are averaging almost a thirteen.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: To four record.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: The one Cavy I will say about that Steelers always
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: play really well against the Ravens and they do the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: same against the Steelers. So normally it's the worst team
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that always kind of turns out a win in surprises.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I just don't see this being the year that happens. Lose.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give them a loss in this game
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: as well. I do think they've got a chance to
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: split with the Ravens, but we'll talk about that when
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: we get to that next game. I just I don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: see them sweeping the Ravens, and I certainly don't see
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: them beating the Ravens at home. So there you have.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: That next game is going to be at home against
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite memories is Steelers fan was watching
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the Mud Bowl YEP, three to zero slugfest in a
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: monsoon in Miami. This one's in in Pittsburgh. Yes, we
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: might have three points total, but I think the Steelers
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: are gonna win that one.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just not sold on Mike McDaniel and or Tua.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Being that it's at home toward the end of the year,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I will give the Steelers the w here and the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: next game is going to be in Detroit.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that the Lions will be as
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: good as they were last year, but I still think
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that they're a playoff team. Steelers could be a playoff team,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: but do not think they're gonna win this one lost
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: for the Steelers.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Aaron Rodgers is quite the hatred
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: for the Lions as he does the Bears. And I'm
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: with you. While the Lions may not be as good
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: as they have been these past two years, I still
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: think they're one of the better teams in the NFC.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So given that it's in Detroit, they're probably going to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: be competing for some playoff seating at that point. I'm
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: talking about the Lions. They're definitely going to need to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: be competitive. Still, I'm going to give the Steelers the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: l as well. Next game is in Cleveland against the Browns.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: See commentary from before you know. The most exciting thing
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: will be who is going to be their quarterback this time?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Will Flacco make it to this late in the season. Well,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: we see Dylan Gabriel, Chador Sanders, someone else just signed
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: off of the street.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: It will not be Kenny Pickett though.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well they could trade them back.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Get back they could, all right, now I'm giving them
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a w as well. I just I think the Browns
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: uh kind of set everything they needed to when they
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: resigned Miles Garrett to that contract they did. When you
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have contracts like that, when you have contracts like the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson one, you just kind of set yourself up
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: for failure, right, Yeah, So give the Steelers a W there,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: all right? Last game is a home finale against the Ravens.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Also, I don't even know this is true. So all
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the games on that week are either January third or
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: January fourth. Is this when we start getting into flex time?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I think the flex time starts around week eleven or twelve. Actually,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: oh okay, maybe not flexing out the dates, but flexing
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: out Sunday night versus you know, Sunday afternoon.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was kind of curious as to.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Why all these games were you know, January third or fourth,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: but nonetheless, whether it's played on a Saturday or Sunday.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just can't. I don't.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I think the Ravens will continue to be a juggernaut,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: so I think that they'll get a W against us
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: at home.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give the Steelers the w here because
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: of two reasons. I think that they are probably going
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to be fighting for a playoff spot, and I think
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the race Evans will not be fighting for a playoff spot,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: so they will either be resting their starters or just
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: kind of phoning it in. So that is, at least
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: based on what I think we know now, the only
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: reason I'm giving the Steelers a win there. So let's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: let me tally up our records here. I think we're
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: pretty close.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I would assume it's nine nine and eight or ten
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: and seven.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: You are correct, you've got nine nine and eight. Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and I must have made a mistake somewhere because I
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: gave them eleven.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're optimistic.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Not that optimistic. I'll keep it because I said that,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: but going one by one that if I look at
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the whole schedule, I would probably pick another game or
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: two obviously to tack off on that. Yeah, maybe the Packers,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: like you or I wanted to give them the loss
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots or the Colts, so maybe I would
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: give them, but I gave them both wins there, so
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: maybe I would give them one of those. Is the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: game that they would drop when they we all know
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't drop.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I mean.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: It all circles the dream to you expect them to
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: be nine and eight or ten seven, yes, which they
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: have been for.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Six years. Yeah, I mean that's basically their record.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: They've been a five hundred or one game above five
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: hundred ball club.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: For that amount of time.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: So you know, I think I think the biggest key is, like,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you gotta win in the division, and.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned going three and three, but.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: What's truly going to be a callus is winning even
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: one more division game going forward? To I think is
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the differential be before being a you know, we're gonna
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: be sitting there watching the wild card on January eighth,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: or you know we're gonna be, you know, not hosting
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a game, but definitely one of the higher wild cards.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: So I think that's definitely possible.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But they got to take care of business against the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Bengals or Ravens.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And that's not an easy thing to do either.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: No, especially because I truly believe like this is gonna
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: be Burrows year.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I think he could win the MVP of this year.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, they did everything he asked them to do.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: That they got Chase signed, they got t Higgins signed.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: They at the expense of their defense. No less that
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the organization has gone out of the way for him.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: The only thing that would stop him from having it
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a great year would be the injury possibility, which is
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: always a thing with him because they've never been able
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: to protect him that well.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and similar to our quarterback Aaron Rodgers, I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: could see him winning the MVP, but his team has
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the worst defense in the league, kind of adding to
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the fuel of if they win, it's because of Burrow.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Because when Aaron Rodgers won one of his I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: he has four MVPs, his defense was either thirty first
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: or thirty second in the league. But he carried them
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: with a I think at forty five before touchdown to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: interception ratio.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: So that'll do it for you.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that we're not gonna see that
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: type of numbers from Aaron Rodgers. But if Aaron Rodgers
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: plays to the point of I guess say, we'll say
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: twenty eight touchdowns and ten picks. I think I think
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a good year.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. We we kind of alluded to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: it before. But yeah, as long as you don't turn
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the ball over, you should, and I'm saying the word should,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: should be be able to rely on that defense that
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you're spending more money on than any other team in
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the league.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Right, and we haven't even paid Camp Hayward more money.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, there you go. Eric has the Steelers
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: at their traditional nine and eight. I've got them go
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: on eleven wins because apparently I'm super optimistic here, but
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: there you go, and they'll probably split us at ten,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: ten and seven, So I'd be happy with that. All right,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: let's hear it now, though I'm not even going to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: ask you, do you think they're going to win the
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? I'll just ask you. Can they get out
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: of the first round of the playoffs if they make it?
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: No?
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Okay? So everything is all of this is just.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: We haven't won a playoff game in a decade, which
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I've said multiple times on this podcast. There's not many
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: organizations that could allow a coach to go almost ten
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: years without a playoff win. We're even watching right now
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles, where there was clamoring for Sarianni to
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: get fired before last season because they really backslid into
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the end of twenty the twenty three season, and he
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: turned around and won a Super Bowl, and.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: They just threw a stat up there.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: He's the first coach in his first four seasons to
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: go four straight playoff appearances, too super Bowls and a
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, or to go to two super Bowls and
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to win a Super.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Bowl, and they wanted him out of there, and.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: They wanted him out of there.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Now, I look, tom One can get a job like
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  Speaker 2: it was yesterday if he got fired. But I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 2: just I'd be unhappy again with another nine to eight
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  Speaker 2: or ten to seven first round playoff exit.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I understand. And the Eagles certainly are. Their
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  Speaker 1: fan base is one that is known for being a lot.
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  Speaker 1: We'll say. I remember when we were at our first
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  Speaker 1: game in Indianapolis. That was when the Colts honored Marvin
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  Speaker 1: Harrison for his Hall of Fame induction, and what he
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: said in his halftime speech was that he loved playing
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  Speaker 1: for the fans of Indianapolis because he's from Philadelphia where
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  Speaker 1: they want to trade you if you get the coin
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  Speaker 1: toss wrong. So, now that being said, the Steelers are
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  Speaker 1: polar opposites of Philadelphia, I think in terms of not
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  Speaker 1: wanting to jump the gun on that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But no, you're correct, it does suck though that in
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  Speaker 1: your world, everything the Steelers have done this last year
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  Speaker 1: or two in the off season has been an exercise
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  Speaker 1: in few two And we're gonna We're gonna be back
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  Speaker 1: here again at nine and eight, first round playoff, probably
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  Speaker 1: a blowout loss, and I don't think that's gonna change
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  Speaker 1: until we get whoever this quarterback of the future.
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  Speaker 3: Is, yeah, well yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like if you watched Day of the
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: college football it's one week, but all the like big
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  Speaker 2: name quarterbacks had a rough day.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhat rough start of the season. So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the tank for Arch might not be uh might
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  Speaker 1: not be a thing, but we'll see how the year
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  Speaker 1: plays out. Man, he was rough, he was he was indeed.
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  Speaker 1: And of course we can't let a week go by
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  Speaker 1: without mentioning our bear Cats too, who lost in the
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  Speaker 1: most painful way possible in my mind, but oh my.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, did you end up seeing the stat line for
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  Speaker 2: our quarterback No. Thirteen of twenty five for sixty nine yards?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's not how you win. He got to the
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  Speaker 1: sixty nine yards and decided he was not going to
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  Speaker 1: get another one. Just something like Gronk would do. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good lord? All right, well, I think we covered everything
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  Speaker 1: we needed too. Was there anything else you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk about?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: All right, my friend, I think that'll do it for us.
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  Speaker 1: But we will be back next week and every week
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: during the season for the Steelers. For Eric Vanminschoten, I
• 44:49
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