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Helping Children Create Connection Through Storytelling with Lisa Caprelli · Authentic Living

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  Welcome to authentic living with Roxanne, a place where we have as conversations about
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  things that really matter in our lives.
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  And now here's your host, Roxanne Derhodge.
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  Hi, everyone.
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  It's out Roxanne Derhodge.
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  Thanks for tuning in again today to authentically with Roxanne.
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  Today, I have a special guest Lisa Caprelli.
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  And Lisa is from Forbes and, her and I had the, I think we ran across each other a couple times
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  and I was intrigued and we had the opportunity to start talking a little bit about what she
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  does.
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  So let me tell you a little bit about Vicente.
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  Lisa, thanks so much for coming on today and spending the time with
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  Thank you.
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  My pleasure.
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  So she's, like I said, she's a Forbes contributor.
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  She's a storyteller, which I love storytelling, so it's gonna be amazing to hear how she puts
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  across the information that's so vitally important around, children.
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  She's a children's author, a songwriter, which when I heard that in Forbes, I was intrigued I
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  remember the first time I I, I listened to you to you chat on the, Forbes Women's Council.
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  And she's, also created, I'm gonna say a character called Unicorn Jazz, which she uses a
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  lot in her keynote and, presentations in schools, and a TV series, it's called The
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  Thing.
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  The TV series.
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  Am I correct?
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  I do.
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  Yeah.
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  That's all I do.
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  The thing I do.
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  There we are.
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  For those that, can't see, she's just holding up a book, of, of, the series.
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  So Lisa, I'm so privileged to have you on, and it's it's often nice to have people that have
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  different expertise that might impact employees, right, because I think as leaders,
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  we think about from that frame, what is it that's impacting employees, but I wanna talk a
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  little bit about kind of how the systems around employees, how that impacts them and kind of
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  your sweet spot, which is obviously around children.
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  But before we jump into that, which we have a lot to talk about, Tell me a little bit about
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  you and what kind of what a unique career you've crafted here.
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  You know, I didn't know I was go going to grow up and be a children's off prompter of a
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  unicorn unicorn jazz and how she would make an impact, and it comes from helping and giving
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  back even through my childhood.
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  I so I grew up in Pesto, Texas, I'm the middle child, Hispanic family, and we grew up really
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  poor.
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  So I often say we had humble beginnings, I wouldn't trade it for the world because it
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  really, you know, made me the person we are, as many of us have had experiences in life, and
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  many people have had trauma and struggles.
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  So for me, it's just another story and angle that my life took a turn.
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  I grew up really shy, like my character, unicorn Jazz.
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  So I was able to go back into my childhood and in a way I wanted to fix things I wish I had
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  and that for other children, you know, that were all unique, unique, unique, unique, corn.
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  That's why when kids always ask me, why don't you pick a unicorn for the character?
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  Well, because we're all unique and different.
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  And we, I really want people to celebrate it, and we do see celebrated in diversity today.
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  We do, you know, I I'm always, in awe of of leaders and musicians and and people that are
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  saying that we're supposed to be different.
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  And, again, growing up, nobody taught us these things to celebrate it.
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  And that we all have different things we do and talents.
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  That's why the thing I do is really about the things that you do and to appreciate each
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  other's, differences.
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  And, but, yeah, I was, I only started Unicorn Jazz in 2018 changed my life.
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  I had 25 years in business, marketing, PR, had agency.
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  I have different businesses of my own.
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  I help people launch and market and grow their business to some really high success levels.
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  And, right before Unicorn Jazz, I went on a on a 3 year journey to create this book called
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  SkipThe step I'm showing for those who are, you know, able to watch.
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  If not, you gotta watch this video by Roxanne, this podcast.
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  So skip a step in parting wisdom for young entrepreneur minds.
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  I interviewed, 12 different entrepreneur and leaders, and then I made chapter 13, the last
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  chapter mine, on why I believe it's important for those of us that can as leaders help the
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  younger generation.
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  We were once them.
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  So in in making his book for teens and and college students, it was, different leaders, a
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  notable leaders in, that gave tips, like, I'm gonna read from the back of my book.
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  Dean Dulce still says money is not the most important part of a business.
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  Relationships are.
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  People are more rewarding than money.
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  I mean, I had so many amazing, people that I interviewed to talk speaker, op on Oprah,
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  Jessica Jacky, all these amazing people.
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  And by the endoscope and stuff, getting it published, which was the arduous task.
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  I mean, to do a captive book, I think, is more work than a picture book that I've created now,
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  but and it came with a journal skip a step, and it was really, steps that I wish I could have
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  skipped to learn faster and have been surrounded with knowledge of wisdom from the
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  collective body of people at a young age.
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  And people we need people to believe in us at all stages of life.
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  You know?
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  So it was from skip a step and after being done with the book and then really, really being
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  impacted by the messages that, you know, don't that know and and all these people that went on
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  to do amazing things.
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  And many of them had all of them had trials and tribulations.
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  So I was no different.
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  And it was from that that I asked myself, well, what is my purpose?
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  What is what am I really born here to do?
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  And, you know, what are this, one of the chapter 1, Michael Gerber, who wrote the e myth
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  series.
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  One of the last questions I asked him was, he was eighty years old when I interviewed him.
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  Roxanne, and he I said, well, what is the mean meaning of life to you?
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  You know, and he's like, well, the meaning of life is to create and We're all here born here
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  to do something, you know, if we can impactful and and take advantage of of our innate innate
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  abilities and gifts.
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  So For me, I knew I was a good writer.
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  That was one of the forefronts of my even as a child.
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  I always say my only voice was on paper.
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  That's why I was a good writer.
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  So who knew that me, being shy, introverted, getting my thoughts out on paper, then would
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  help the rest of my life and careers because I was always the one that would write the letter
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  or write the social media message when that became prevalent.
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  Right.
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  We write someone on the website and realizing that everything comes from a well developed
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  crafted message.
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  So I thought, well, I wanna have fun in whatever I do in starting over.
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  And I just was drawn to going back to my childhood and creating picture books, creating
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  a character that I would copyright and trademark kind of like there's Hello Kitty,
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  there's Mickey Mouse, and I like, well, now there's unicorn jazz.
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  That's amazing.
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  So, like, you know, what I what I find interesting is that you say that we all have
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  such a unique path Right?
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  Like, you're
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  Yeah.
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  You know, with your Hispanic background, I was born in Trinidad Tobago.
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  So kind of, you know, indentured laborers who went to the islands.
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  And that whole identity path that kind of follows you, and that in writing my my recent
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  book, I talked a little bit about what the reality was of indentured laborers because it
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  wasn't like slavery, but it pretty was pretty close.
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  And kind of the impact on colonialism and what it did to my heritage and my identity and what
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  I bring forth and what I do today.
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  So it's interesting that you talk about that and all these amazing people.
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  It's like finding what, like, what's your why?
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  Like, why why are you doing what you're doing?
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  Which is amazing.
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  And every but I almost everyone I talk to because I I make it a my background in degrees
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  and so psychology.
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  I know you have a, a, I'll I'm enamored by your background too in in this quest for studying
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  human behavior.
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  What makes people do things?
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  You know, the emotions and feelings that affect us all, and some people are have more empathy
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  than other people, you know, personality differences.
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  And And as much as I was, like, like, a straight a student pretty much even through
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  college, and I I have the zest for learning, which we can all be lifelong learners.
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  And one thing I realized was through communication that comes with social emotional
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  learning that's now so needed and wanted back in starting with schools and with children that
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  wasn't around for you and I when we were young.
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  Mhmm.
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  And again, children not gonna grow up to be adults.
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  Children are gonna grow up to work being the workforce, and you're not gonna no one gets
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  taught everything at home by their parents.
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  No one there's no perfect manual to raising children.
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  There's no, you know, it life is comes with a lot of ups and downs everyone.
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  In fact, I find that adults is hard.
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  I just already say that.
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  I just wanna be a child's rep or guess what?
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  I can do that now.
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  And now you understand when you pair my parents used to say, you just you're such a rush to get
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  off.
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  Just enjoy it.
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  And I'm like, darn, I shouldn't listen to them when they said Right?
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  It's so true.
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  And so I I just always feel we're all doing the best we can.
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  Many people have a story.
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  I I come across stories of trauma and struggle with so many people.
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  And and a lot of times, because I've I've now created authored, published 17 books, 18 books,
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  and counting.
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  A lot of people say, I have a story, and then they tell me this story.
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  And and I'm like, everyone has the story.
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  It's Again, do you wanna be defined by that story if you did have struggle in trauma, or do
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  you wanna be defined by now and what you're gonna create and put out in the world and
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  what's the legacy you're gonna leave behind?
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  So it was through a lot of self development, a lot of of learning from great leaders and and
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  in really wanting to better myself and to not let my story of my past define me because we we
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  it's a decision that you can make.
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  To change your life.
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  No one can force anyone to change your life, but yourself.
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  And, I'm grateful that I I I believe in god, and I believe through god, all things are
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  possible.
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  But, you know, life is a constant.
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  It's constant work.
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  As we grow up.
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  And then you get older and then do, you know, there's help and, you know, all these different
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  things.
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  So I just find that I give a lot of grace to people these days.
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  I am a lot more patient.
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  Nothing that was gonna go the way you wanted to go.
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  Life is not a fairy tale, even though it's easy to write very tailed.
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  So let's, you know, I want I wanna talk a little bit about the perspective of
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  relationships.
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  Right?
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  So I was a health and wellness executive for, over 20 years.
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  And, you know, regardless of the size or sector of company that I we worked with, was that we
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  found the the 165% of all people that end up taking days off from work was related to
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  relationships.
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  Right?
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  So that could be, you know, a couple of relationships ship, family relationship,
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  blended families, el, dealing with elderly fam, you know, family members as most of us are in
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  kind of that stage where we're, you know, we're still kind of raising our children or they're
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  just there.
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  And we're helping our, our, you know, our parents that are elderly.
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  So it's showing you the impact that we need to get better in relationship.
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  So when leaders or CEOs or senior leadership teams are looking at their people.
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  They really have to look at what are by Osmosis, the extensions associated with your
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  employees.
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  Like, what is it that's impacting them?
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  And to your point, Little people become big people, and the little problems become adult
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  problems.
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  And those are the ones that you kinda get a conflict on teams or I can't, you know, I can't
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  disagree with, you know, Lisa's personality or, you know, those types of things.
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  So it's really like a big sandbox, I'm gonna say, except we're all kinda worried.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, big people pants kind of thing.
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And you you have, you know, boys, personalities, of course, different than girls.
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  I grew up with sisters.
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  So I I had the ignorance that, oh, you know, the way men think is is different than women.
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  And it's just, again, to appreciate each other's differences and perspectives and
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  realizing that we all didn't grow up in the same family dynamics.
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  We all do like the same food.
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  We all don't have the same habits.
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  But, yeah, and and and, you know, there's you take that into the workplace, which, you know,
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  we grow up and we gotta work.
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  We gotta make a living for a self and career is a big part of of many people's lives.
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  And and and to me, I I believe that you should be happy at what you do.
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  And not, you know, some people may grow up to do something that was for the money and and
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  they not they're not happy doing what they love.
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  And I then I feel well develop Pinterest interests in hobbies outside of work.
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  Abs.
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  But, because so many people may do something for for the money, for the paycheck, and and be
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  really miserable.
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  And then they end up walking away from that thing.
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  And so for me, I Just again, going back to childhood, if you could identify or help
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  children who become teens, who become adults, to enjoy what they do and to find some purpose
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  and, you know, hopefully, career in that, or maybe it's a side career.
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  Maybe it is a hobby.
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  You know, musicians.
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  I get to work with so many talented kids that's that, I met since the pandemic in in
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  songwriting and doing music videos, I would to go to these kids because I'm not a great
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  singer.
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  I I wish I was.
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  Again, the thing I do is I'm not a good singer, but I rely on talent, but I can help bright
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  songs.
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  Right.
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  That's right.
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  And and so in seeing these kids that I've worked with that are part of the the show
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  that's now on Amazon TV and an app called KidsvTV that's worldwide, these kids are
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  incredible at their craft, and they wanna grow up to be a well known singer, to be an actor,
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  actress, and many of them will, and some of them won't.
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  And it's like, what is your plan B, your plan C in life?
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  I I couldn't have become a children's author right out of college.
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  I I needed to go through the life experiences I did.
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  It was nice to go through and and help many people, grow their businesses as an
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  entrepreneur and the same for me.
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  I learned I, I, when I moved to California 21 years ago, I started up a mortgage and real
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  estate company with a partner and we did, it was Tuesday, one of the most the, you know,
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  money successful businesses I've had, but I wasn't happy come recession before I wasn't
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  happy with the pace.
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  I wasn't happy with the, you know, how much pressure was to manage employees and make them
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  happy.
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  And and even though I I could have always stayed in that in that business, I I walked
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  away.
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  I needed to choose my own identity and something that I was gonna, you know, enjoy
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  doing.
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  And and I feel like you your work should be something that to you're so excited to do.
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  You know?
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  And, again, not everyone gets to do that, but when people are around me and children adults,
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  they're they are inspired because I I'm happy that I've created this.
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  And it's it's come with risk.
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  It's come with going backwards during the pandemic.
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  Make as many businesses.
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  I was one of them, but all I did was keep creating more books, more content because I was
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  no longer being able to able to go into schools and speak to the whole, you know, grade levels
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  of schools.
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  You know, sometimes 800,000 kids I'd speak to in one day come zoom, come virtual times that
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  we could do.
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  I'm able to do that.
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  Still not the same in person, and we know that.
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  So all the world has gone through massive change since the pandemic, every single person.
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  And it's now, you know, things are lifting, you know, slowly and surely, and and I'm just
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  grateful for the time that the way we were isolated, maybe, of us, but then what did you
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  do at that time?
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  I created all bunch of stuff.
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  Likewise.
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  So let's talk a little bit about, kind of what you do in schools because I I'd like to kind of
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  talk about the angle of Yeah.
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  What kids are going through.
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  Right?
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  And then what in turn parents might be going through and how that impacts people having, you
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  know, now we're going back to work and things are opening back up.
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  What are some of the things that we need to kind of be aware of with human integration out
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  of this, you know, isolation into kind of back into schools, back into all the activities that
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  kids are doing again.
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  Yeah.
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  Yes.
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  Thank you for asking that.
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  Well, because of all the changes that many of us went through in homes, whether, you know,
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  you had children in school depending on the age they are they were during the social distancing
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  time, it was really hard as I I constantly talked with teachers, librarians, and the fear
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  that kids were, you know, having to have with the masks and the, you know, the COVID and all
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  these different things.
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  And, you know, the play time change, so that the kids were isolated too.
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  You know, I mean, it was it's it's this huge aftermath that I think we're gonna deal with
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  for a long time.
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  And for me, I look at it when I go into a school or when I when I'm able to to speak to a
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  classroom or even if it's one child, to focus on the happiness within that we do have.
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  What what what are you grateful and happy for today?
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  And You know, one of Unicorn jazz, my book series are known for being, offering social
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  emotional learning points.
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  For example, you know, how how can we help and give back, whether it's opening the door for
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  somebody, making them feel good.
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  That's you're helping someone.
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  Acceptance, you know, teaching children to accept who they are, whatever color their hair
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  is, whatever their races, you know, and having that acceptance.
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  And we are seeing that more and more.
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  There's I I really feel that media and social media has really changed the diversity outlook
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  on things.
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  You know, it's important to have compassion.
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  How are we teaching compassion, you know, at home and it's goal because someone may be
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  thriving and another kid may not be, but you don't know what's going on in in their home.
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  We don't know where they're coming from, and it's having empathy to to love when another
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  empathy to understand that that we are all different is somebody struggling rather than
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  getting angry at that.
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  That position, maybe there's something going on.
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  How do we have compassion and and show show kindness to another?
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  I think through this time, what, in in some of the coaching that I've done, with parents and
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  say for instance, teenagers, that a lot of teenagers are lost.
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  Because, of course, you know, nothing like the most awkward stage there is.
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  And you're trying to figure out your identity.
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  You have conflict.
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  You have groups and all that.
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  And, I actually wrote an article not too long ago about, and the the the term that I'd heard
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  from a lot of teens is teens aren't peeling.
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  That was the term.
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  Right?
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  They're just like, they're not peeling.
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  So they've lost that time period, Lisa, and now they're stuck, and they're feeling like nobody
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  gets them.
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  It's bad enough going through that stage.
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  And you believe my parents don't get me, but they believed a lot of, even people within
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  their subgroups, aren't, right, whether they stayed at home, whether they kind of went to
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  school in person, they were losing all they were constantly going through loss because they
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  were kind of being, you know, shut out of Snapchat groups because one person was in
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  person and one person was virtual.
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  So a lot of spinning developmentally.
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  So is that something that you're finding that a lot of kids are experiencing?
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  Well, and have a teenager, by the way.
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  So Oh, okay.
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  Okay.
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  You know, it's it's it's also the technology.
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  The the input of technology where kids now grow up with their phone.
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  We didn't have that.
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  We're older than YouTube and Google.
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  I often remind kids.
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  You know, the to the there's pluses and minuses to everything.
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  And, I just find that it's It's really hard.
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  I mean, you'd have to take away technology from kids to then have that human connection that
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  we're talking about, but we can't be mad that that's what they have become, you know, like,
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  we do it too.
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  We just It's just I I it's an interesting divide, and and I I do see the challenges in in
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  younger the younger generation having the human connections that you and I are used to.
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  But is it I mean, of course, we want them to have this, what what we think is more of a
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  inner connected relationship.
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  But at the same time, I mean, this there's I don't know is a solution.
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  The solution is to grow up and, like, those solutions to teach some of the differences just
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  like we have to have self diss discipline and put our phones down and not be, you know, so
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  overconsumed by it because I think many of us have that.
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  So I, you know, for I've learned now, to, like, to put my phone away on the weekends on Sunday
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  for me.
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  It's family day.
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  I hardly ever look at it.
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  I yelled, you know, but that took a long time for me to get to level.
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  So it's living it's leading that example to children that you can you can change you know,
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  what you're doing in in over being over consumed with technology.
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  Right.
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  Compared to having a lot more pressure in different ways.
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  Right?
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  Like, I mean, if you think about it, I have a a twenty twenty year old.
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  So I'm kinda out of that space, right, because he's pretty independent.
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  But I think her parents, like, of younger ones that have been at home and Both parents have
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  been working and, you know, trying to kind of juggle having online school and maybe you have
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  a you know, a five year old, a nine year old, a a fifteen year old in a home trying to kind of,
• 22:27
  you know, you got all that stuff because, generally, you could kinda go.
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  You could drop them off at school.
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  You could go to your job.
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  You could focus just on your job.
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  Do your things.
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  Yes.
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  There's pressures there.
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  Pick them back up and kind of do it, but there was such a a collision of every possibility
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  under the same roof for 2 years that parents are stressed to our employees they're bringing
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  that back, obviously, with them to work now.
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  And somewhere in there, everybody's supposed to flow and, you know, we can get back in this
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  stride.
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  You know?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I think it's
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  gonna be difficult to do because I think a lot of things that maybe we thought we addressed
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  through the pandemic now that we've kinda we're not completely out, but now we're breathing,
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  we're gonna find out a lot more about the anxieties and the things that people have been
• 23:14
  a hining and kids are gonna probably be scared to have play groups that they used to, those
• 23:19
  types of things as well.
• 23:21
  Oh, complete.
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  Everything's changed.
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  And I I just find that it's up to each of us.
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  You know, I myself being a mom to create that leadership in your own family to maybe change
• 23:32
  the dynamics.
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  We create your own groups within your community.
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  You know, I don't have a lot of family here.
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  Come a lot of my family's still back home in Texas.
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  And, of course, when we go visit there, it's nice, but that's not a reality, you know,
• 23:46
  Right?
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  Of every day.
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  So you you don't have to, but to myself, I say you have to create your own community, young
• 23:53
  friendships, invest in those relationships.
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  Invest in in other people's time, and we only get so much time.
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  And we can only let so many people close to us know who we are and develop that.
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  And and being authentic and and, you know, because, again, social media can portray this,
• 24:10
  you know, this person that you're following, but you don't know what's going on behind
• 24:14
  closed doors.
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  Absolutely.
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  And it's important not to compare yourself to what you're not.
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  Like, it's just like I said, it's growing up and adulting to have being a parent and having
• 24:26
  a relationship with me on 1 or It's it's all a lot of work, and and it just think we all need
• 24:33
  to focus on being grateful for what we have and what we can grow.
• 24:37
  You obviously, when you team with good people in your life, you're gonna thrive, and that's
• 24:42
  important.
• 24:43
  Absolutely.
• 24:43
  So let's talk about, unicorn jazz a bit and talk tell me What is it that the character
• 24:50
  teaches, or tell me how you use it in the schools?
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  Cause I I I often see, you know, like, You go into the schools and you're seeing a speck of
• 24:57
  what, you know, it becomes our our next generation.
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  So what is it that how is how is the character used and and how to
• 25:05
  be a
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  little bit more about that?
• 25:07
  Yeah.
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  So, so in the first book, and it's been holding up, unicorn jazz has a music note for a tail
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  that's copyrighted.
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  We wanted her to be unique in that way.
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  So in the first story, unicorn jazz moves to a new land in search of new friends.
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  Feels like she doesn't belong.
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  She's shy, and only her mom believes in her and sings to her.
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  And so she goes to to school and we, of course, we put the zoo.
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  That's where animals would be, something.
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  And and so the the Jurassic, well, you don't look like a giraffe.
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  They have 2 horns.
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  She has 1.
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  The geckos, you know, say you can't play hide and seek.
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  So, you know, developing the story So she, of course, she wants friends.
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  She wants to feel like we belong.
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  And how many times in life, I I there's many of us that don't feel like we belong in whatever
• 25:54
  position.
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  Maybe we are moved to New City.
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  We we don't we've made fun of that kind of thing.
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  So, finally, she needs a crow named Wolf, a name that a dog should have.
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  I did that on purpose.
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  And he says, wow, your voice is so cool.
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  What I would give for voice love your like yours, and he believes in her.
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  And this character is so important, and he's somehow in all the stories, even if he's in the
• 26:17
  background, because I often say it just takes one person to believe in you.
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  And for me, it was my grandmother, and it was my teachers.
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  And if and as I up.
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  It was a business mentors.
• 26:27
  There were my wolf to the crow, and we all have them, you know, and how I'm and I said maybe
• 26:32
  you grow up and do you become with the crow to someone?
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  And that's what I get to do now is is inspire people.
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  I love that.
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  So that really, if I were to think about in my, my world and what I talk about, Alicia, it's
• 26:45
  about listening to that deep internal voice about the why, about why you're doing what
• 26:51
  you're doing and what is your leadership story, that makes you wanna leave that.
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  And let it find.
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  Yeah.
• 26:57
  Yeah.
• 26:57
  So he tells me go out and seeing the animal friends I'm summarizing, of course, for your
• 27:03
  listeners.
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  And so everyone listens to your voice, and now they are, like, think she's cool.
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  She's awesome.
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  Now they wanna play with her.
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  And, at the end of the story, the elsinger song comes with different chips on, and everyone's
• 27:15
  happy.
• 27:16
  And that that was that was the first story I'd introduced that.
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  And I'll tell you boys is, you know, so some my t boy teenage boy in the beginning wanted
• 27:24
  nothing to do with the unicorn because he's a sports kid and da da da.
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  And and I was like, what's the story for everyone?
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  I'll tell you.
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  When I go to schools and I read it with that heart and I don't put any gender on, you know,
• 27:36
  I I I purposely did that.
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  Boys will come up to me, and 5th grade boys will be, I love Unicorn Jazz.
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  I love what she represents, and that's what I wanted.
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  And so then the next stories I created being happy with Unicorn Jazz and friends, is also
• 27:53
  booked for even grown ups to to show what makes you happy and that how you sensibly happiness
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  is free.
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  Just simple cool page art.
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  Like, who like to paint.
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  You know, a lot of people like to paint.
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  That makes me happy.
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  And I go page by page and kids then.
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  And as adults, start sharing what makes them happy.
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  I get to walk in the beach today.
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  I never did bring up because I grew up in the desert, so I appreciate that.
• 28:17
  Yeah.
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  You know, I'll say things like who likes to dance or sing and almost every hand goes up.
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  And so that and so then being happy is that, again, at any time in life, we can find our
• 28:27
  happiness.
• 28:28
  So I have other books, like I said in the series, the, the helping get back is and it is
• 28:33
  a song also almost with all my books that we created songs.
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  I was inspired by Sesame Street, which is why I just saw the thing I do, which music made it
• 28:42
  more impact ful and meaningful.
• 28:44
  So beyond the books, I have activities and I have the music because I want children to
• 28:48
  really, you know, get to know the characters and love them, and they do.
• 28:52
  Once once teachers starting to do see the characters and the roles they play, it's just,
• 28:58
  like I said, it's it's it's limitless learning
• 29:02
  You know, I I think I listen to you.
• 29:03
  Right?
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  And, you know, the one thing that, the research shows is that, how much more creative we are as
• 29:10
  adults when we play.
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  And what's the first thing that happens when we get out of, you know, kind of into early
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  adulthood and we get our first jobs?
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  It's the first thing that seems to be lost is we perceive that being adult means an opposite
• 29:23
  of play, but in fact, that the opposite is being found in in, in research today.
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  Oh, yeah.
• 29:29
  Okay.
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  Make believe that that was an important part of my childhood.
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  I'd love to play.
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  And now that I created cuppets.
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  My I turned unicorn jazz and Tracy who's named after my son.
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  Remember my son that's
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  Yes.
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  What's what's the what's the character for the, one for your son?
• 29:43
  So he's a Zebra corn.
• 29:45
  And one day I pick up my son, I go, this is Trae Zicki named after you.
• 29:49
  His name is Trae, and he likes sports.
• 29:51
  He wears the number 3 like my son.
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  So now now my son
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  Now it's cool.
• 29:56
  Right?
• 29:56
  Cause it's named after him.
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  Yeah.
• 29:59
  And, so but I did do a podcast.
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  It was a business podcast.
• 30:03
  And, again, and sometimes people are like, how are we gonna find an angle with this in
• 30:06
  business?
• 30:07
  Well, like, we always find the angle once they talk to me.
• 30:11
  Because again, my my background is really still a business background longer than I have been a
• 30:16
  children's author, although I might I I love being known as the Children's out there more.
• 30:20
  So, we taught in the business podcast, there was 2 guys, and they never had a guest like me.
• 30:26
  I had my puppets, and then they start saying, what if we brought puppets into the boardroom
• 30:30
  meetings?
• 30:31
  And they were like, like you said, play.
• 30:32
  Like, why do we have to stop playing?
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  You know, the average The average adult American lasts seventeen times a day.
• 30:41
  Mhmm.
• 30:41
  And the average child laughs a hundred times a day.
• 30:44
  So I wanna be with the kids.
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  You know?
• 30:47
  Oh my god.
• 30:47
  That sounds a lot more fun.
• 30:49
  Right?
• 30:49
  And I think, really, when you think about it, right, if you can bring that levity.
• 30:54
  Right?
• 30:54
  And clearly, you know, I'm seeing it from both angles as a psychologist, but also, within
• 30:59
  business.
• 31:00
  And, you know, I talk a lot.
• 31:01
  Add relationship.
• 31:02
  And relationships.
• 31:04
  I turn on I talk about return on relationships.
• 31:06
  That's my, either whether at home or at work and, you know, awareness connection,
• 31:12
  communication.
• 31:13
  How is it that I that I wanna be seen and recognized?
• 31:17
  These are all core fundamental things that are in relationship that you're teaching through,
• 31:22
  both of those characters.
• 31:23
  And we're teaching our children, how to do them because as adults, we lose track of that deep
• 31:30
  down space within ourselves.
• 31:32
  Right?
• 31:32
  We, I think we come into the world with that, Lisa.
• 31:35
  Absolutely.
• 31:36
  When we're born.
• 31:37
  And then what happens, I I was my my story is I feel that we get pricked and prodded, so then
• 31:43
  gets removed.
• 31:44
  And then at some point, we get connected with somebody like yourself or myself that says, why
• 31:48
  am I gonna wear?
• 31:50
  Right?
• 31:50
  It's almost like you have to learn the thing that naturally you were born into.
• 31:53
  So I love this that you're teaching this with,
• 31:57
  and And it's my and it's my world.
• 31:59
  It's my world around me.
• 32:00
  And and and when I'm around people that, you know, they don't love their job.
• 32:05
  They, you know, they It's like they're worn out at the end of the day, and I'm not worn out.
• 32:09
  If I have a full day speaking, it takes a lot of energy, but I do it again and again again.
• 32:14
  I can imagine.
• 32:15
  Yeah.
• 32:15
  And and so I I do feel I I feel I have empathy in the sense that, like, wow.
• 32:22
  Like, Can you imagine to do something 40 hours or more of an entrepreneur, you tend to work
• 32:28
  more than that and that you're just not in love with what you do.
• 32:32
  I I, you know, and To
• 32:34
  your point, to your point, though, not everybody gets that, but if you get connected,
• 32:39
  you know, like these children are to that space about it.
• 32:43
  It's you're perfect the way you are.
• 32:45
  Just learn to listen.
• 32:46
  Yeah.
• 32:46
  And create from that space.
• 32:49
  Whether we're doing a job that because we have to raise our families, and it's not I'm not,
• 32:53
  you know, able to be an entrepreneur.
• 32:55
  But at least if I realize, you know, I love play the utility or I love
• 32:59
  Yeah.
• 33:00
  You know, I love to dance, and I've always wanted to go back to dance that I implement
• 33:04
  those things to be able to bring space back into my life and then in turn it affects
• 33:08
  everybody around.
• 33:09
  Yeah.
• 33:10
  And maybe you work for a cool CEO that wants to have creative things like that.
• 33:14
  And and we know that, you know, cool CEOs or businesses that that are, I don't wanna say,
• 33:20
  out there, but different.
• 33:21
  They they, you know, employees wanna stay longer.
• 33:24
  You wanna work for a cool fund company that has good leadership.
• 33:28
  And maybe maybe you can start looking around for something like that.
• 33:32
  And, again, I know not everyone has that that luxury of maybe switching jobs or things like
• 33:37
  that.
• 33:38
  But, again, I just believe This is why I love working with children is that if you could
• 33:44
  foster their love and joy for what they like to do, whether it's acting singing, you know, one
• 33:50
  of my songs, acting singing, chemistry, you know, there's so many possibilities that those
• 33:54
  are the words in my song.
• 33:55
  And and to teach them, like, but that could still be a hobby outside a word.
• 33:59
  Maybe you're forty years old and you've always wanna play guitar.
• 34:02
  Take you two or since hire somebody, you know, Absolutely.
• 34:06
  Absolutely.
• 34:06
  Absolutely.
• 34:06
  If you are happy and thriving, we as an individual, and we are living longer than ever,
• 34:15
  you're gonna pour the happiness into your work.
• 34:17
  Maybe people around you are gonna go, wow.
• 34:18
  Like, I didn't know you were a singer and and, you know, that kind of thing.
• 34:22
  So I just feel like you know, when many of us when we were young, we were hard pressed to to
• 34:28
  grow up to do a job that's traditional.
• 34:31
  As we know, there's all kinds of jobs out there that, you know, like, look at whoever the
• 34:34
  people that mentioned Uber.
• 34:35
  Right?
• 34:36
  Like, that was something that
• 34:37
  I know.
• 34:37
  And when I grew up in the island, You had to become a doctor, lawyer, engineer, or teacher.
• 34:41
  And I'm like, I don't fit any of those.
• 34:43
  And I thought, I wonder if they might pay me something to talk to people.
• 34:47
  And my friend said, that's not a job.
• 34:50
  I'm like, well, I don't know.
• 34:51
  I was 11 at the point.
• 34:53
  Right?
• 34:54
  So, you know, it's it's you are so right.
• 34:56
  So it I think What I love about what you do, Lisa, whether it's in a boardroom, which I
• 35:01
  think, you're right.
• 35:02
  There are environments that create that, that space of, play, which impacts creativity,
• 35:09
  which, you know, draws people because the degeneration of today, they're wanting to be in
• 35:15
  that space of their value.
• 35:16
  They wanna be creative.
• 35:17
  They wanna make a difference.
• 35:19
  They want an imprint, whereas maybe in my generation or your generation, it was more like
• 35:23
  Okay.
• 35:24
  I'm gonna do what I have to do, and that'd be where I'm gonna create a legacy at the end.
• 35:28
  Right?
• 35:28
  But now the newer generation say, hold up.
• 35:31
  Give me what I want, and I'll stay.
• 35:33
  But if you're not kinda giving me what I want, I'm gonna use my feet, and I'm gonna go
• 35:37
  somewhere else and with with the new, you know, the new resignation.
• 35:41
  That's what we're seeing.
• 35:42
  Right?
• 35:43
  So play, play equals creativity, which impacts people's ability to feel connected.
• 35:49
  And then the bottom line takes care of itself.
• 35:52
  It does.
• 35:53
  It does.
• 35:53
  And would it be and to me, that's a beautiful way to live.
• 35:58
  And and, you, you know, as I was saying, you can be the change you wish to see in the world.
• 36:02
  And and I and I do see that happening more and more in and and the world is constantly
• 36:07
  changing.
• 36:08
  As we know, the one thing that we all can count on is change.
• 36:12
  App, the the one constant.
• 36:13
  So I know you and I can probably keep chatting, but I would love, like, if and let's say it's a
• 36:19
  school.
• 36:19
  No.
• 36:20
  You're in California, but it doesn't matter.
• 36:22
  I'm in I'm in Canada, and there's need for this.
• 36:24
  And I think regardless.
• 36:26
  Right?
• 36:26
  Yeah.
• 36:28
  Or even for, you know, like you said, I think it's I I I'm intrigued about play with,
• 36:33
  corporate environments, because I think there there's definitely a need there, of course, to
• 36:38
  the more, you know, aware, environments.
• 36:40
  But Tell people a little bit about where to where to see
• 36:43
  your jazz and
• 36:45
  the show and if they wanted to consult with you, where they could get a hold of you just to
• 36:50
  kind of chat with you about, you coming into to their environment with these amazing
• 36:55
  characters.
• 36:56
  Oh, yes.
• 36:57
  So my name is Lisa Caprelli.
• 36:59
  And, if you go to unicornjazz.com, you can find all the social media connections, even
• 37:04
  LinkedIn.
• 37:05
  And I am very personable and do take the time to respond to people, especially anything
• 37:10
  involving change, helping them give me back.
• 37:12
  We work with children's hospital.
• 37:13
  We work with, schools, Title 1 school's kids in need.
• 37:17
  Again, I was once one of those kids receiving a handout.
• 37:20
  So to be able to help children, I never turn away a school or, or helping someone, you know,
• 37:25
  within my capabilities.
• 37:27
  But you can go to unicorn jazz.
• 37:29
  You can go to Lisa Cape com.
• 37:31
  I'm on LinkedIn.
• 37:33
  And I always welcome hearing from individuals, Again, if you're connected with with children
• 37:41
  or or have a way to help and give back, that's gonna always be a soft spot for me as well.
• 37:47
  So thank you.
• 37:48
  Thank you so much for your time.
• 37:49
  This has been amazing.
• 37:51
  So what am I taking away?
• 37:52
  I'm a taking away that let's find the kid in all of us.
• 37:57
  And spend that time to invest in something that you love to do.
• 38:01
  I, you know, it's it could be like, to to Lisa's point, You wanted to learn how to play
• 38:07
  the violin and you never took that time.
• 38:10
  Or you like to art and, you know, you wanna go and take an art class or play an instrument.
• 38:15
  Take that time to invest in you to reconnect with that space that's always there that maybe
• 38:21
  you kind of avoid it.
• 38:23
  And now it's time because we're recognizing the more joyful we are, the more connected we are.
• 38:29
  And if we're connected, everything else falls into place.
• 38:32
  So again, for anyone that I'm releasing my new book, ROR return our relationship, and that's
• 38:39
  just about to be released.
• 38:40
  But if you're interested, there will be link for leases, information, but also my own.
• 38:45
  If you're wanting to know how authentically connected you are in relationships, there'll be
• 38:49
  an assessment that will be in the show notes, pop in, check it out, and then we'll, we'll let
• 38:54
  you know where you kind of, bench in, next steps for there.
• 38:57
  So again, Lisa, thanks so much for your time for everyone.
• 39:00
  Thanks again.
• 39:00
  I'm so privileged for you spending this time with us, weekly, and we'll chat soon.
• 39:05
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• 39:13
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