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The Resurrecting Romance Novelist w/ Paula Poundstone (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's popin congregation is your girl? Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 2: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Baalt. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 2: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes.
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  Speaker 1: From behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming, Scam, come.
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  Speaker 3: Rob from.
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  Speaker 1: Scam, come right from Goddess. What's pop and congregation is Shagirl.
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  Speaker 1: Lacey Mosley aka Scam got us back with another installment
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  Speaker 1: of the podcast Scam Goddess, all about robbers, con arteas
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  Speaker 1: people who practice scams. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: hate them, and parasocial girlies out there, one of my
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  Speaker 1: blues clues girlies. Yes, I'm very Yes, I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 1: I love you guys and welcome new people. All right, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm extremely excited. Y'alln't even understand we have a legend. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how we scammed her and got
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  Speaker 1: her time like this, but shout shout out to the team. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: today we have an amazing stand up comedian and author
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  Speaker 1: rest on the show. She has a regular panelist on
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  Speaker 1: NPR's news comedy QUI show Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me,
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  Speaker 1: which I've done quite a few times. This is the
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  Speaker 1: Queen Victoria of stand up. You can listen to her podcast,
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  Speaker 1: Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone, and you can check out
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  Speaker 1: her stand up comedy tour in a city near you, honey,
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  Speaker 1: because she'd be out here in these streets, honey, back
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  Speaker 1: in the day. She would get on the ground and
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  Speaker 1: do all the mics everywhere. And that's just my own
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  Speaker 1: personal I'd be stalking Paula. But you can check out
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  Speaker 1: our stand up comedy tour. Go to Paula Poundstone dot
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  Speaker 1: com for more information. Congregation, please welcome Paula Poundstone to
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 1: Queen. I'm so I'm really truly elated to have you
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  Speaker 1: on the show. This is really dope, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I realized as I'm watching you talk into the microphone
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  Speaker 3: like she doesn't need me. I can see that you
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  Speaker 3: sort of imagine the audience that you're talking to. There's
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  Speaker 3: a very close feeling I feel between you and the
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  Speaker 3: audience who was not in the room. So I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I'm interrupting a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: No interrupt. All you want is not interrupting, it's you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna make me cry. Oh my god. I put in
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  Speaker 1: just a teen spit of like the stalking that I've
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  Speaker 1: done about you over there.
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  Speaker 3: I did. Used to write the Greyhound all around the country. Yes, dude,
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  Speaker 3: you could buy a thing called Namarrapas for thirty days
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  Speaker 3: you go anywhere you wanted. You know, it was like
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  Speaker 3: a blank ticket book, so you could write anywhere you
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  Speaker 3: wanted for thirty days. And I used to live on
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  Speaker 3: the greyhound bus back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: You was really torn And I'm your SnO stand up
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  Speaker 1: episode with Robin Williams, Like, I just you're You're the goat.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm so excited to have you here.
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  Speaker 1: We always ask our guests on this show, like what
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  Speaker 1: is your relationship with scams?
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  Speaker 4: Like do you love them? Do you hate them? Having
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  Speaker 4: anyone ever tried?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine being on a greyhound bus.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: That was back when the greyhound wasn't as sketch.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it was somewhat. I mean, I haven't I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that I've ridden a greyhound in a while. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you a gross I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: tell you a really gross greyhound bus story. Okay, it
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  Speaker 3: was not a scam so much. It was harassment. So
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  Speaker 3: I was, I think nineteen years old. I was very shy.
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  Speaker 1: Young.
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  Speaker 3: I still am, but I was really shy then. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you're on a greyhound bus, you don't
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  Speaker 3: own both the seats, right, the seat that you paid for.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody wants to come sit down beside you. You move,
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  Speaker 3: you're junk, and they sit down beside you. So this
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  Speaker 3: guy sits down beside me, and I'm the kind of
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  Speaker 3: person I can talk to the other passengers a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you're better than me, small talk like I'll literally die.
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  Speaker 1: I hate talking about the weather.
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  Speaker 3: Like say, you know, hello, where are you going? Right?
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  Speaker 3: Some people you engage with more than others. I forget
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  Speaker 3: what was about this guy that kind of suggested to
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  Speaker 3: me maybe I don't really want to chat, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I was reading and writing and looking out the
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  Speaker 3: window and sleeping. So anyways, he sits down beside me,
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  Speaker 3: and he's wearing overalls. Now at that time that was
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  Speaker 3: like a fashion, but that.
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  Speaker 1: Was a statement piece. Yeah, it was giving.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so at some point I think he recognizes, like
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  Speaker 3: how sort of, I don't know whatever. He slips his
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  Speaker 3: hands inside, both hands inside his overalls, right.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a deep dive because overalls means you got
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  Speaker 1: pants up to your neck, so you gotta go in then, But.
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  Speaker 3: The top part is just a bib, so you can
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  Speaker 3: go in the side, right, Okay, I don't think I
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  Speaker 3: need to describe to you what he was doing at
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  Speaker 3: that point. And I'm so like shocked and embarrassed, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like I have and there is no way in
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  Speaker 3: hell I'm gonna tell somebody that he's doing this, because
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  Speaker 3: I'll feel too embarrassed to say the words. I'm nineteen,
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  Speaker 3: I was a baby, So I do at some point
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  Speaker 3: say like that I needed to get out, and I
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  Speaker 3: walk up to the driver because I know he'd like
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  Speaker 3: he would, he'd freak out if he knew that, right,
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  Speaker 3: So I walk up to the driver and I lean
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  Speaker 3: my head down to the driver and I say, where's
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  Speaker 3: our next stop? And the driver, because I whispered my question,
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  Speaker 3: he whispers his answer. So I have no idea what
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  Speaker 3: exchange we just had, and he assumes.
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  Speaker 4: That it's about him diddling his man's exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So when I go back, he's moved. I love
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  Speaker 3: that pretty you know, think back on, I'm like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: there was. I'm not the brightest ball in the chandelaiyer,
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  Speaker 3: but that was pretty damn clever.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't have the awareness not to realize that
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  Speaker 1: he shouldn't be you know, oh he did.
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  Speaker 3: He was trying to get under my skin. You know.
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  Speaker 3: He was just doing something to get attention and to
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  Speaker 3: get you know, and to him, it was going to
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  Speaker 3: be more glorious if you know. I was forced to
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  Speaker 3: so I just whatever. And that was. He was still
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  Speaker 3: on the bus and I still saw him every time
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  Speaker 3: there was a stop where.
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  Speaker 4: People where were you going? How long?
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  Speaker 1: Is that true?
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was it must have been a long
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  Speaker 1: trip if they're all yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah it was there. It was anyways,
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  Speaker 3: that was my uh so, but my relationship with scam
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  Speaker 3: that was just my relationship with gross, my relationships and
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  Speaker 3: my relationship.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm wondering about the overalls, Like he was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a lady, is this neck pants? So people can't really.
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  Speaker 3: Know if it was like yeah, part of his uh.
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  Speaker 1: Because if somebody walks over and they're like, sir, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing with your genitailia, he could like slide
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  Speaker 1: his hand up the neck pants and.
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  Speaker 4: Be like, I'm scratching my chest.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's like he can move around more than
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  Speaker 1: if you in pants that hit at the waist and
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  Speaker 1: everyone getting right.
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  Speaker 3: There's practical use in the old days.
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  Speaker 1: You heard him for four neck pants overalls of people
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  Speaker 1: public masturbates.
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  Speaker 3: Like kind of people still do on a farm sometimes,
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  Speaker 3: don't they? Every now and then you'll see you farmers.
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  Speaker 1: All McDonald really fucked it up for farmers, Like what
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  Speaker 1: are farmers just like hipsters in Brooklyn and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: we actually give fashion and all the girls think we
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  Speaker 1: wear straw hats and wear overalls.
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  Speaker 4: Because of one bad marketing campaign.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, they haven't really been able to force
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  Speaker 3: Gingham on the rest of the world. You know Gingham,
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  Speaker 3: the little they're white and red. Yeah, right, exactly, except
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  Speaker 3: for smaller U.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to bring it back out for my birthday,
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  Speaker 1: for the Julacy that's the fourth of July. We don't
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  Speaker 1: need to celebrate America celebrate.
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  Speaker 3: Is your birthday really the fourth? For Jay? That's all
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to celebrate from now on it because I
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  Speaker 3: don't care that much about the fourth No, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, what is it even really? But wait, so you
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  Speaker 1: were saying your relationship with scams.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I have been scammed before?
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  Speaker 1: Oh tell me, because I'm scammed a lot, even recently.
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  Speaker 4: So there's no shame.
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  Speaker 3: I was, and you do feel ashamed by the way
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  Speaker 3: when it happened. Isn't that weird?
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we're trying to get rid of because
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  Speaker 1: we want people to share the ways that they've been scamped.
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  Speaker 1: So that O.
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  Speaker 3: There's people so many ways now that you know who
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  Speaker 3: they get to every day. That's a thing. Yeah, might
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  Speaker 3: have been eighteen years old. I was working a restaurant
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  Speaker 3: in Boston and this woman comes in with a kid
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  Speaker 3: and she does this con thing where and the kid's
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  Speaker 3: like two years old. It's very distracting, kids banging on.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't a part of this. I just saw it happen.
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  Speaker 3: She takes out a twenty, she tells cashier she needs
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  Speaker 3: two tens. When the cashier gives her the two tents,
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  Speaker 3: she now takes out a dime and says, now, I
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  Speaker 3: need two Nichols for this dime. The cashier goes to
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  Speaker 3: do that, she takes the two twenties, she hides them away,
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  Speaker 3: I mean the two tens, excuse me, hides them away
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  Speaker 3: and lays out two ones. And when the cashier looks
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  Speaker 3: up again after doing the two Nichols, she says, what
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  Speaker 3: did you give me these two ones for? Now? You know,
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  Speaker 3: in restaurants, the girl, the woman on the cash register
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  Speaker 3: get stuck for that, you know exactly, So you know
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  Speaker 3: it's bad.
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  Speaker 4: I worked in restaurants, I know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if your draw short, then you gotta just
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  Speaker 1: fill it out. And you normally will even fill out
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  Speaker 1: your drawer if it's short without telling management because you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to lose your job.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like I gotta and you know we're
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  Speaker 3: making you know, something slightly over nothing per hour. And
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  Speaker 3: so now, all right, So I saw this happen. So
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  Speaker 3: now I'm on my way to work one morning and
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  Speaker 3: I stop off at the dunkin Donuts on Boylston. As
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  Speaker 3: I'm waiting in line, the same woman is in front
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  Speaker 3: of me, and I didn't recognize it right away, but
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  Speaker 3: then I see her do this same thing, so you
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  Speaker 3: know she could was two ondes to whatever, what did
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  Speaker 3: you give me these two ondes for? And I stood
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  Speaker 3: right there and watched her, and I had this idea
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  Speaker 3: in my head. I'm from a small suburban town in Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 3: I had this idea in my head that the minute
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  Speaker 3: she was foiled, she would somehow run away. Yes, you
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  Speaker 3: know what happened, Well, didn't happen this time? She uh she,
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  Speaker 3: I said, she didn't give you two ones, she gave
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  Speaker 3: you two tens. And the woman turned and went off
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  Speaker 3: on me, and she said she was gonna drag me
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  Speaker 3: outside and beat the crap out of me. Oh, what's
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  Speaker 3: funny is it's not like I can't run or or
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  Speaker 3: you know. All of a sudden, I was just frozen
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  Speaker 3: because I just thought, that's exactly what's gonna happen now.
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  Speaker 3: And so the the so.
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  Speaker 1: You thought when you told that, oh this is a scam,
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  Speaker 1: she was gonna just run out the door.
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  Speaker 3: But she was like, I'm a bitch away right Suddenly
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  Speaker 3: I was a pole hang. A woman from Duncan Donuts
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  Speaker 3: grabs me over the counter because she thought I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna be dragged outside too. She grabs my arm and
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  Speaker 3: she says, no, you're you're not gonna do that. Now
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  Speaker 3: I only have one arm to defend myself.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, America runs sound dunking the like they're like the
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  Speaker 1: waffle House of coffee. Everybody had Duncan knows how to fight,
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  Speaker 1: just like how everybody has Spirit Airlines knows how to fight.
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  Speaker 4: They teach that in the train.
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  Speaker 1: They actually do before all flight attendant teach you how
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  Speaker 1: to do a basic self defense.
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  Speaker 4: And like you have to restrain people sometimes in the air,
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  Speaker 4: but it's.
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  Speaker 3: Got to do it with office supplies. You have to
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  Speaker 3: deal with duct tape. I can't even I can't even
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  Speaker 3: duck so to help you. But then she was gonna
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  Speaker 3: with just one arm. It's not like I would have
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  Speaker 3: hit anybody anyways, but I was deflecting her blows with
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  Speaker 3: one arm, and she finally.
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  Speaker 1: She went over again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she and then she went to the door.
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  Speaker 3: She fight. They kept saying we're gonna call the police,
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna and I'm thinking to myself, go ahead, go ahead,
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  Speaker 3: call the police. Now she made it to the door,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, huh, I think I started to cry then,
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  Speaker 3: which just is not humiliating. And then she ran back
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  Speaker 3: and kicked me, ran out again.
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  Speaker 1: No one more for the road.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what I said after words? I said,
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  Speaker 3: could I get a jelly donut chocolate doy clay please?
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  Speaker 3: And then I sat down at a counter.
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  Speaker 1: Did they make you.
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  Speaker 3: Pay for shobbed? Yeah? They did.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's fucked up. That should have been for free.
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  Speaker 1: Now damn, you don't help them with a scam. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna charge you. Yeah, that's who As I start fighting
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  Speaker 1: the Duncan lady.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that was I should have come back with you
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  Speaker 3: got a dunk the dunkle there. I was not personally scammed.
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  Speaker 3: I was abused, but I did recognize the scamming. Now
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  Speaker 3: drop it there now, Paula.
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  Speaker 4: I hate to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to do this, Paula, but I'm low key
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  Speaker 1: a little bit on that later side. Are you just
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  Speaker 1: because the Dunking is a big company and she's scamming
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  Speaker 1: them like she's.
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  Speaker 3: Not hurting nobody. But it was this, It was this
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  Speaker 3: like to the best, Pano. This is in the old
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  Speaker 3: days when they made them wear these kind of pink
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  Speaker 3: sack dresses with with aprons. Okay, that you're thinking.
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  Speaker 1: From a service perspective, which I do too, which is
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  Speaker 1: why I overtiped for everything, because I've worked in service for.
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  Speaker 4: So many years.
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  Speaker 1: Is that like that woman's drawer was gonna be short
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  Speaker 1: and she might have been out of a job.
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  Speaker 4: So I understand we're coming from. I take it back.
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  Speaker 1: You was like homegirls drawers is going to be short.
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  Speaker 3: I was fighting for justice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you were trying to help homegirl who worked there,
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  Speaker 1: okay for her a little bit of money an hour
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  Speaker 1: and not to lose her job. So I absolutely understand.
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  Speaker 1: Damn though, she she messed you up, holding you Now,
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  Speaker 1: how you gonna hold me though? And then I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: squabbled on and then you're gonna charge me for the
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  Speaker 1: jelly donut.
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  Speaker 4: Now she messed up there.
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  Speaker 1: She messa see, And that's why I don't help corporations,
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  Speaker 1: because she still stood in the gap for the corporation
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  Speaker 1: because since I helped you and not have a short
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  Speaker 1: drawer and you over here holding me back while.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody is hummeling me, and so you were doing it
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  Speaker 4: for the community.
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  Speaker 1: And that no, no, she she messed up because she
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  Speaker 1: should have gave you a free jelly donut. It should
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  Speaker 1: have been free in your coffee. I'll tell you something,
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  Speaker 1: dunk A Donuts, if you hear us right now? One
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  Speaker 1: sponsor the show. Two, y'all owe Paula pumps. Y'all owe
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  Speaker 1: Paula Boundstone, a jelly donut and a coffee at the
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  Speaker 1: very least.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, because y'all way, jelly donut and chocolate honey glaze.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, chocolate honey glaze.
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  Speaker 3: Get it right, I can mick that.
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  Speaker 1: And even if it's discontinued, you better continue it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: get it right, Scarce, come and we are back.
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  Speaker 3: And that was fast. Whoa who I hear. I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna kickback. Relax, breathe for as again. I got
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  Speaker 3: a whiplash from that break.
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  Speaker 1: Oh but to breathe, you don't get to breathe. It's
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  Speaker 1: time for what's hot and fraud.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So this is when we want our listeners about
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  Speaker 1: scams popping on the streets. But more often than not,
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  Speaker 1: we get a letter from you all out there as
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  Speaker 1: always touch on your friend's family and enemies and scam
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  Speaker 1: gootspot at gmail dot com. Just make sure your scam
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  Speaker 1: is retired because we don't want to what Yes, fuck
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  Speaker 1: up your bag and somebody really understood that today. I
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: just need a fake name from you, Paula like it
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: could be we don't care about gender here, So any.
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  Speaker 3: Name Angelina Angelina?
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  Speaker 4: Ooh yes, I like Angelina.
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  Speaker 1: So Angelina says, skip to the bottom for your flowers.
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  Speaker 1: This is a long one, so we're just diving right
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  Speaker 1: on it. Angelina, you've been listened to the podcast because
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  Speaker 1: you know how it go, all right, so I picked this.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little complicated, but there's still like a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a scam that can still be run. So
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to let y'all know about it, right,
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  Speaker 1: So it says Angelina says, you might have actually come
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  Speaker 1: across the scam before. But there used to be a
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  Speaker 1: widely utilized review buying system that anyone selling something on
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Amazon could use to artificially boost reviews on their products.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be advertised directly on Amazon, but rather through
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: a variety of one thousand percent shady websites across webs
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: like ami Ze review Trader and if it's like amz
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: review Trader, if y'all want to know Elite deal Club,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I love to you, snag Shout, and many of these
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: names snag Shouts, nigils pornographic Man. For some reason, snag shout,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: and many other mostly defunct sites. Now essentially all that
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you had to do was find an item on one
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: of these websites that you wanted and then request a
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: discount code, as well as give them a link to
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: your public Amazon profile so that they could see your
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: review history. So if you leave a lot of reviews,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: which I will say, I appreciate reviews, I don't do
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: reviews often. But when I go on Amazon or any
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: other popular website and give you know, Q ball head
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos my money, which I shouldn't be doing, I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: try not to. I try not to. I try not
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: to order from Amazon because a lot of times if
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: you go on Amazon, the price is higher than if
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: you actually click on who's selling it and then go
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to the real website where they sell it from. So
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you can find something on Amazon because it's quick, and
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: then go to the real website and get it cheaper.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: But my neighbors and I, because he owns whole food,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: my neighbors and I went in on a strawberry last summer.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: That's how one strawberry.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it yeah, y'all cut it up.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: But it was a situation strawberry ceremony strawberry we call
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: it the Strawberry Festival. Very it's very expensive and what
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: more does he need honestly?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Right, Also like the workers, Like if I know people
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: are peeing in power aid bottles, I'm like, I don't
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: want to do two day ship and so y'all can
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: be stressed out. Yeah, But Amazon does have all the things,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: all the things. So if you're a reviewer on Amazon,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I do appreciate you because sometimes they be posting pictures.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: They'll post a picture in the outfit, They'll post a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: picture of the table once they built it, and it
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: gives you like a little bit of scale to how
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: big it is.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: And I worry about the review things because I feel
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: like people can just wouldn't you just get your friends
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: to say good things?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Or they trick people by sending the product to
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: people's houses who didn't order it and then making reviews
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: for them. They do that too. So there's a lot
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of different little scams that people on Amazon du to
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get their rating up. Because if your Amazon review rating
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: is higher, you pop up in the feed higher, which
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: means you get more legitimate orders than other companies for
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the same product. So there's reasons why they're doing this
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and giving these discounts. So Angelina says, the discounts were
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: anywhere between ten percent and one hundred percent off free. Okay, yes,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I said free, Angelina.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: What company is given one hundred percent off discounts?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But think about it. You give one hundred percent off
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and then people give reviews. You get ten reviews, right,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you sacrifice the profit for ten products that bo that
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: boos youer algorithm, and then you get probably way more
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: people buying it legitimately, like legitimately because they saw it
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: from the reviews. Oh okay, yeah, and like Amazon makes
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: it to where the company can't really falsify reviews that much,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: so they need people to do like quote unquote legitimate reviews,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: so they said, Angelina says, And they had everything you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: could want if you got to that request button before
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: someone else did. The deal was that they would give
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: you this discount and then you would leave your honest
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in quotes review for the product you received. Hence why
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: they wanted to see your public profile so that they
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: knew they would at least get something in return for
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: giving you the discount. This, of course, was the corporate
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: scam being run to artificially initiated or excuse me, inflate
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: product ratings on Amazon so that they had a hire
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: chance to get people outside of the scam country. Yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to spend real money. They even tried to make it
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: look legitimate by requiring you to put a disclaimer in
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: your review that you received it at a discount, but
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it was still an honest review. So they were like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: it's had a girls, a little bit that we lie in,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: like just a skosh. So here's where my own semi
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: scam comes.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: It's so over my head. I can't even tell you. Really,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm hanging on you every word because I'm like I,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: you know, I do this thing where I go into
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: stores and I'll pick up a product that I would
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: like to have, and I have enough money in my
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: pocket to purchase it, and I bring it to the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: cash register. I don't do self checkout, and and I say, hi,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: how are you? And then the person chat with me,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I purchased my thing. I leave. I don't for the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: most part, shop online and do all this stuff.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Well, you're not doing aline robbery.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: You got a robbery? I haven't. What is I know?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: In Florida they've had some bank robberies where at the
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: drive up window where they use the tube.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: They drive through bank robbery.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they put the gun.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I have not heard about Dan put the gun.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: In the tube. No, yeah, and then how does that work?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And there's actually been some shootings as well where the cashier,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the banker, you know, use the shot themselves. No, because
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: they followed instructions on the note.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna listen to that kind of note. You
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: send me a note talk about shooting me, I'm not.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Then you send a gun. I'm not shooting out the window.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Followers in those banks. Yeah, Florida gun. That's Florida.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: That gives me very Florida.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So Angelina says, Here's where my own semi scam comes in.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: When I started doing these kinds of reviews on Amazon,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I had already been using an app that lets you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: scan your receipts to accrue points that can be redeemed
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: as gift cards to actual stores like Target, Walmart, iTunes,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: et cetera. Not too long after, I started to notice
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that because I was it was processed like any other
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: regular order. Amazon would still include a paper receipt for
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: these products I was getting, even though no charge had
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: actually been made to my card. So he's uploaded. Angelina's
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: uploading receipts that are no charge, but it's still a
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: receipt and obviously they're using algorithms and machines so they
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: can't tell that it's no charge. So Angelina is still
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: getting points.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, because you have to have a receipt for yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: To get the points.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I like this. So since the receipts scanning apps are
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: just aggregating my data and selling it for massive profit,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I decided to start scamming them right back and upload these.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Zero dollar receipts from Amazon.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I was making out like a damn bandit, Lacey Angelina says.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I was getting things like French presses, memory foam pillows,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: bluetooth speakers, phone screen protectors, ceramic kitchen knives, phone rollers,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and much more on a regular basis and flipping those
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: receipts into gift cards and stacking the profit.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, wow, you realize a hole in the system.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: That's what scammers do. And you were saying that earlier,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like how scams have evolved. They have like scammers are
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: always like, okay, we got computers. Now, okay, let's scam
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: on the computer. Okay, y'all got Wi Fi? We scamming
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: on a Wi Fi. You know, like anything, they're gonna
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: figure out a way.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So you just be door to door scammers. You
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: just you know, you used to have to walk in
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: the heat. Yeah, a little full of brush man kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: of stuff where you know, you thought it was bore hair,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: but it turned out it was made with another kind
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: of hair. That was a big scam.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: That was honest living. We had a scam door.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: We had to get too young to have ever seen
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a fuller.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Hello, I'm here to rob you. Hello, Jo Mama homes
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: we're trying to rob us so much easier. True.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I remember the.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Avon ladies to come to my grandmama house all the time.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: We bought products.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Lee she I didn't have no.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Money, Yeah Avon Yeah yeah, Avon calling.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: So it got to the point where I would start
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: giving these to friends and family, or even as raffle
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: prizes to the staff that I supervised as morale boosters. However,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it's all came crashing down in twenty sixteen when a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: guy named Tommy Noonan, damn Angela, you're gonna name Tommy
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: like that?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Who's Tommy? Noona.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: He created review meta, and, to the great shock and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: surprise of nobody, found that those reviews were almost always biased.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: For a while, nothing really changed, but eventually this whole
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: review meta thing picked up enough steam across Reddit, Twitter
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and other social media. And we're gonna get into social
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: media later because social media is out in the scammers
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: heavy these days. So Amazon had to essentially ban the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: product discount review in quotes from their platform. So around
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that same time, the receipt ads also stopped accepting receipts
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that had a total of zero dollars. So my bag
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was all the way fucked up. I'm so sorry, Angelina,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you were really scamming good. This is a good scam. Yeah, oh, ethical, fair,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: technically legal, I'm into it.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah what is Barb McQuaid say? Lawful but awful sometimes
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: but I'm not even.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Gonna say awful, but I like the ride. Lawful but awful.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal that, Paula, that's mine, y'all. Remember that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: different I said it? Remember that different? Remember how I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: said that I'm guessed like y'all, y'all, Remember how I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: said that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: We all do absolutely so, yes, pol.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I'll see I love you, I love you, So, Angelina says,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'm out of the game now. But the last I
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: heard is that you have to fully buy the product
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: on your own, give a favorable review, and then the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: company will send you a full or partial reimbursement. Take
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: a look at the reviews on Amazon for any item
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you're interested in that isn't from a major or well
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: known brand, and it won't take you long to see
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that the reviews are clearly fake and or paid for if.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: They sell you. Okay, if I buy something and I
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: don't like it, and I write like, boy this, you
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: know this water bottle, you know it smells, it's not good, right,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: then they're not gonna send me the exactly. Therefore it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: still not an honest review. I knew the review thing wasn't.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But that's why it's biased. Because if you get something
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: for free everything, I always say, if it's free, it
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is for me. So if it's free, I'm looking at
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it more favorably automatically because I didn't expend any resources
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to get it. So I'm like, oh, yeah, this water
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: bottle smells like uh, pink chips, but the water cold.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you would still you would still.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Do them it made DESIGNI taste like smart water.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: But who would want an additional product that you didn't like? Anyways,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I guess that's part of it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Some people like stuff and free stuff.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: A lot of people like free stuff.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: That's a big problem because that's why companies get away with,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Like they'll give you gifts at the holidays and it'll
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: be like a branded lunchbox or something. I'm like, I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: don't want old branded lunchbox. Just give me the money
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you paid for this damn lunchbox. Give me a bonus.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I don't want this.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Man. I feel awful because a minute ago, I don't
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: know if you saw me on my phone, but I
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: was ordering you a Paula pounds and nobody listens to
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Paula pounds. Still lunchbox.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Wait, but I want that though, But I want that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: That's a flag. So they'll be like, you know, Paula
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: pounds and I'm like, yes, I mean yes, I do.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: That's a flag.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: That and a dime and one dime, And then you'd
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: be like, I actually said you twenty five dollars, so
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: many you send that back?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, So they used to say that and a dime
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: will get your cup of coffee, but nowadays it's that
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and ten dollars.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: We'll get you a cup of coffee.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So ps.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Angelina says it's allegedly. Allegedly. I also heard whispers that
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: review meta itself is a scam. But you didn't hear
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: that from me. We didn't hear that from you, Angelina.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: We didn't hear that from you.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I used to want to originally said lawful but awful,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: but she certainly did not say that. What was it? Meta?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Meta review review meta revieww meta.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's frue, so I will say, Uh, the reason
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I wanted to read this one.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I know it's a little complicated is that it sounds
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: like you go on it's.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Just like Monopoly rules like that, because I don't think
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I've ever played Monopoly with the.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Rules and we make our own rules. Yeah, we make
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: our own rules for Uno. We make our rules for Monopoly.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And the rule to UNO is if you have a kid,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: you can never stop playing it. That's the rule to UN.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: It's a game that goes on.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: For forever, but Monopoly goes on forever too, And Monopoly
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: was created by women stolen by men. Was about the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: awfulness of capitalism, and that's why nobody ever gets through
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a game of Monopoly without fighting each other. I have
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a scar from my cousin Jermonica stabbing me during Monopoly.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Who did my cousin Jermonica Germonica?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I love you, Dremonica.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm sure it was an Accidentmonica. Listen, which
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: which playing piece did she stab you with? Was it
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: the dog? The symbol? Was it in the old days?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Which was sharpest? I feel like you could probably get
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: something off with the car.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: There used to be a cannon, could have been canon.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: It was always the car.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be the car.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my secon sharp edges there, so I
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: had Jermonica. What a great name.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, truly, and she's a great person. You can still
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: be a cool person and do like one little stab
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and yes.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Well you know what it was right when she landed
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: on a boardwalk, she just went off. I've never seen
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: her like that before, never seen Jermonica like that before.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Because when you buy a bout of property, so the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: girls will be mad at you, and that's just the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: rules of the game.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not mad at.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It, rab.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Right, WHOA, that was a great break. Okay, we're back.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let that be the intro, Paula, because that
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: was amazing. And now we're back in it's time for
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: historic could wings. This is where we talk about a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: crime caper, group of criminals, maybe a lone wolf, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: maybe we like them, maybe we hate them.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I want to do a content warning at the top
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: of this. There are mentions of suicide and self.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Harm, so just so you know, if you know, that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: might be a problem, which we understand. So today we're
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: talking about Susan Meishin, an independent romance novelist who was
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: thought to have died in twenty twenty to the grief
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: of her large fan community, but in twenty twenty two,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the romance novel world was once again shocked when she
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: miraculously came back from the dad.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Oh man, know you're probably too young to have ever
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: seen Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte. No, it's a it was
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: a scary movie back now with Betty Davis, Joseph Cotton
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and I'll think of the other actors later. But okay,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: So Betty Davis thinks that she's killed someone, but she didn't.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: As it turns out, she didn't really, but she thought
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: she did. And the guy is part of a torments
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: her and she had like rolled him off into a
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: lake or something. And he comes back and he walks
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: up the stairs and he's got like muddy shoes and
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: leaves stuck to him. That's this She miraculously she dug
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: herself out of the grave and miraculously reappeared.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah to life.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Her side right now, because I know when you fake
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: die probably sells more books. They're like, this is the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: last book we're gonna get.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think that. I mean, clearly there's
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: like a mental health problem there somewhere.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Faith's dying is really a sign.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: It's a red flags something's wrong.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: When you're like I'm gonna fake my death, you should
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: probably look into your life and see why you want
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to do that. So. Susan forty seven is an author
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: of fourteen romance novels and the head of a large
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: online fan community on Facebook called the Ward, in reference
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to a psychiatric ward. Well, well all right, she told
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: us up top, Yeah okay, And then we looking at
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: her picture and it's giving, it's giving mental illness and said,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I have mental illness. Okay, So that's no shade. I
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: have my own mental illnesses. Okay, I have anxiety depression,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: so I understand mental illness. And she's given that photo.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It's given mental and.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: That's okay, Yeah is it? Now?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: That's her?
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Let that photo circulators.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a photo she meant to share
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: with people.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Wow, because look it's not even.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Got the portra mood, kind of fuzzy background.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't her in the forefront.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: And her face is kind of like giving like.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Hmmm, yeah, it's not a happy face.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: No, it's not a happy face.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Although if she were smiling it would be. I mean,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: it's just it could be. You know, you can't draw
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: too many, too many conclusions.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, her haircut is given great clips.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: It's not the Mona Lisa's. But honestly, is it the
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Mona Lisa?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe the opposite.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: It's like there's like a little no, no, I don't.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Know anyway moving around.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: That is not the Mona Lisa. That's oh American heritage,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: the one by Grant Wood with the with the farmer
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: with the overall by Yeah, that's the one where no
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: matter where you stand, he's looking at you, all right,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: looking at me? So all right. So she was a
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: romance novelist, which, by the way, I take Cassu was
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: right off the bat, but she was a romance novelist.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I just it's a I used to work in a
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: bookstore when I was young, and it's just a genre.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: It's a very horned genre.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: It's there's just something about it. It's just stupid. The uh,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: the covers are all the same, it's all, you know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: it's all.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Like an overly buff man with super long hair that's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: in the wind.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Well. Actually, that's relatively new in my life. It was
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: in the old days. It wasn't so much that it was,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: you know, always like a buxom woman. Although I don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: you know, given that it's largely women that were purchasing
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: those books, I don't know why they wanted to read
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: this story of a large breasted woman.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: But because a large breasted woman be having adventures. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: want to know what they're where, them titties are going,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and I want I want to go with them. Okay,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I want to be their bra they're brazier and go
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: on the adventures as well.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I just, you know, there's so much like I'm the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: slowest reader in the world. I'm a very like sometimes
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I fantasize you about going to college. I'm like, it
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: wouldn't work. I wouldn't be able to get through one
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: book like I always did.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I was a slow reader, and I went to college.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I did run a lot of scams in college where
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I pretended to be poor at risk youth on scholarship.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I was on scholarship, but it was academic. But I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: would come in and sweatpants and I'd be like, please,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: can y'all give me the answers to this exam? Because
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I got the whole family on my back and we're
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: trying to save the community center.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: And that was not my life at all. I grew
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: up in the suburbs and my family is affluent.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: But I was like, I knew that everyone just assumed
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: because I'm dark skinned, black, that I was running track
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and I needed to get the community center.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: What was the upside of that? If they did give
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: you the answers?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: And so I'm the past business courses that I had
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: no business pass.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I'm like operations, So then.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And then what? And then I got my degree?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: And now you and George Santos.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I wasn't as good as George Santos. He lied falling
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and very extravagantly. We just did an episode about him
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: not too long ago. He's a fun one. Y'all see
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: him in Drag President that he wasn't in drag. We
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: didn't have that in the episode, but that was very fun.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: He was like, that's not me?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Who is that? And we're like, girl, we know that's you.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And then other other drag performers are like, are you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: still my week? They came in and it was amazing.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So in September twenty twenty, it was announced in a
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Facebook post made to the Ward that was the Facebook
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: group that our girl Susan managed, that Susan had taken
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: her own life in part due to the bullying that
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: she received from fellow authors. So she was like, the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: other authoress's are dragging me and it's time for me
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to hop off the planet.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: So she was there any evidence of this bullying by
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: the way, I mean, it doesn't seem like yes. I
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: mean because I don't. I can't imagine like some great
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: authors Duyevsky or you know, Mark Twain. Somebody take oh.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Mark Twain before Quentin, Like Mark Twain ran so Quintina
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino could fly with just putting as many in
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: words in a book as possible.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that like taking the time to dish this.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: People have their communities and sometimes their niche. So maybe
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: in the niche writer amidst.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: The other like so the other authors that are writing
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: stuff like Rests of Rage and.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And they're also like fuck Susan Susanshan and her trash
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: ass romance books.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, long beach longing, that kind of thing.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: They said they may love in the ocean. Everybody knows
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that you can't really have sex and water, like you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: we don't know. But she said they were dragging me
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and so I had to leave. So it concluded author
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Susan Mishin left this world behind Tuesday Night for bigger
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and better things. Please leave us alone. We have no
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: desire in this messed up industry. Please leave us alone. Normally,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I guess this is before the time where everyone would
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: say please respect our privacy. It was just please leave
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: us alone. Because now they'd be like, please respect our
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: privacy during this difficult time.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Now it's like and by the way, it was anyone ever, no, no.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: No, and you know they're not going to say it
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: is It's like maybe some people will respect your privacy
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: because you said so, like they were going to leave
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a comment.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, they.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Said, respect our privacy, delete backup, backspace, backspace, backspace. But
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are not going to respect your privacy.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: But I love please leave us alone, and I want
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to bring that back. Everybody just starts saying please leave
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: us alone.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: The wait, this was after the death.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is when she quote unquote died. But on
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: January second, twenty twenty three, Susan came back to life
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: just like Jesus ay Man and once again set the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: wrong man's novel Community of Flame.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, so what really happened?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: In a post on the still act of the Ward
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Facebook group newly resurrected, Susan said, this is her words.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I debated on how to do this a million times
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and still not sure if it's right or not.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: There's going to be, Susan, let me help you. It's not.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I wish you'd called me first. Don't do it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, hey, Paula, do you think it will be?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: It's me, Susan, you know from them romance books. Oh
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: my god, so sessual I loved the biggest titties was
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the biggest cities you've ever seen, going on the biggest
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: adventures you ever wanted. And yeah, so I retired the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: titties by saying that I had died. What can I
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: tell the girls that I'm back to life.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I wish you'd called me before you said you were,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: because you're not dead. This is not this is what
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: are you?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not dead?
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: The third ghost?
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I thought I thought I was dead? Though, what if
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I tell everybody I thought I was dead?
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: You think that'll work?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: It's it's not gonna work. I think you need witness protection. Okay,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I'm faithbook.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna do a Facebook post.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Bad idea.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: That's the best way to come back into the earth
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: is Facebook?
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Don't do you agree? How about right under another name?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Let me read you the rest of the letter that
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying the Facebook. So there's gonna be tons of questions, Yes, Susan,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: there will, and a lot of people leaving the group,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I'd guess now now, not Susan, why are you trying
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: to retain your your audience took them up? A lot
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of people leaving the group, Yeah, Susan, but my family
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: did what they thought was best for me, and I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: can't fault them for it. So now you blame your family,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: saying that they killed you off. Okay, my family ain't
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: never tried to kill me off without my knowledge.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I feel like that would be a group chat discussion
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: at least big responsibility taken.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she ain't taken none so far.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: So she says, I almost died again at my own hand,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and they had to go through all that hell again,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: it says, returning to the ward, which is the Facebook
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: group doesn't mean much. But I am in a good
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: place now and I am hoping to write again. Let
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the fun begin. That is the last part of this quote.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Let the fun begin, And a.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Lot of us don't begin having fun until Susan tells
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: us too. She's pretty much the keeper of the fund.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: She opens the gate for the fun.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I won't lie, though, like if I was
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: in a Facebook.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Right scam goddess didn't she mentioned she mentioned depression and
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: anxiety earlier, and then she had me on and I
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: may have shoved her over this scam goddess.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Polly, you gotta announce it though, Yeah, so it could
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: be real.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And then a couple of weeks later and there's nothing
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: fun about this in the real sense of it, but
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: someone pretending to do it and then coming back with
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the most insane explanation that gives no explanation, that the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: responsibility not to any specific family member, just to her
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: family in general. And then she's like, and I'm back, y'all,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: So let's turn up. They tried to kill your favorite bitch,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: but I'm back, Like, Susan, you got audacity and I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: love that for you. So, in response to the news,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: fellow author Samantha A. Cole confronted Susan in the comments
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of her posts, asking whether her death had been a hoax. Now, Samantha,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you already know her death as a hoax because the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: death happened. And then she came back and was like, JK,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: so it's a hoax. So this is what Samantha says,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: looks like a DM. She said, what is going on?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Question mark? Question mark, And Susan says nothing. I simply
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: want my life back. My family was in a bad
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: place and did what they thought was best for me.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: So she blamed it on her family and she says
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: she want her life back, AKA, like she not dead
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: no more?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: They did? What what is it that they did?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: They said she was dead, right, but did they?
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Did they?
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Or did she?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think she was like, I want my life back,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I mean Susan's and grandma, and.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: It's like, girl, Now listen, did I kill off some
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: already dead family members in college so I could get
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: later deadlines on essays?
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Absolutely we all did.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: But different I didn't go to college. I didn't realize
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: that was an important part of it.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a fundamental part to get essay deadlines make
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: you produce the like, uh obituary.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Really, your college education is sounding a little bit like
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: George Santos's college education. Okay, how were you a volleyball team?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I actually went though, and I only pretended to be
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: on the track team once. Okay, so I'm different.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: How did you pretend to be on the track team?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Just w Yeah, that's not what that necessarily indicates, squeatch.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I never said I was on the track team. I
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: just showed up looking how they look and also being black.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: So their biases were what happened. You know, I was
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: using racism to my own benefit. You know, that's not
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: my fault that I had big thighs and wore sweats.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: So when Samantha asked Susan whether it was even her
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: daughter that had posted. Susan replied, I do not have
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: a daughter and son. I'm not worried about the book
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: world letting me back in. I was never really in.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: So she was like, the girls never liked me, So
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the book world. So get out
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of here. Book lady trying to chastise me because I
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: lied about having a son and a daughter and about dying. Like,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: calm down, Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: She is definitely saying the fetch is not a thing.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: She has audacity, and you know scammers usually do.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: So. Susan had previously taken to the ward that's a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Facebook group to post about her personal struggles and grievances
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: in a community often permeated with drama. I did not
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: know this much like this much drama in the book world.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I'm about to dip it toe. So she complained about
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: colleagues whom she claimed to help but who never offered
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: help in returns. She's like, I was putting all the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: girls on, I was bringing them all to the Penguin.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I was doing all this and they weren't helping me back. So,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: as she continued to publish, novels and become further engrossed
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: in the romance space. Susan became more frustrated with both
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the industry and the negative feedback she felt she received
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: from other authors. In one post made in September twenty twenty,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Susan wrote, every day it got to the point I'd
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: rather be dead than to deal with the industry and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the people who swear that they're friends. Okay, I didn't
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: know the writer's industry was as deep.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not sure it is. I think, Yeah, I'm
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: not sure it is.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I mean it may I'm working on a book right now.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I might being auth the rest. Yeah, we'll see, but
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: maybe it is this deep.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: So are you gonna go you've written a book? I've
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: written a couple of books.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've written yeah books.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: And uh, it's very hard to do. Are you finding
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: that it's hard to do? Yea writing a book? It's
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: very hard to do. I used to.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Did you be bullied by the writing community.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I get horribly bullied, horribly bullied by the writing community. No,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I mean, I don't know any
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: other writers to like sit around and talk about writing,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But I mean there are like little cult like communities.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I do improv, you se b we have our own cult.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are cults within the pottery community and everywhere,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: you know, next door is a cult for people who
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: own houses.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know about the pottery community, but the improv community,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: you're actually working together, whereas writing is generally done alone. Okay,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: it's a very yeah, it's a very isolating kind of activity.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: And I can't imagine reaching out to other writers for
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: like socialization, because they should probably be writing.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Well. Then that makes that kind of makes sense though
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: to her point, if like you're doing this alone and
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: then you're reaching out for socialization, it's probably gonna come
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: from shade like you're you're John Grisham Girly and the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: rest of the girlies are you know, you write and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: go on girl and they write in sexcapades in Germany,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna be like, oh, they're lower than me,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, I like her titties jumped tittily
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: as she ran into his arms.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: And you're writing like.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you don't have any trouble writing at all. That's sentence.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, do you have a fan? Write that down?
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Her titties jumped tittily.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's how they jump. Yeah, I don't paint a picture.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Tittally had not really been a word until now, but
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: timly and here we are so in public posts, she
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: also alluded that her previous struggles with mental illness, as
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: she had recently been diagravious, she's right in the middle
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: of its current and previous.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: And she said she was recently diagnosed with bipolar disorder
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and that her past like she talked about her past
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: suicide attempts. So online friends, including a few who would
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: later be accused of bullying, reached out to Susan as
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: her posts grew worse. So Susan like kind of laid
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the foundation writer wise, is like, hey, y'all, shit is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: going bad, is going left, and like kind of built
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: up to this fake, you know, unliving.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: So according to one friend, she was becoming pretty chaotic.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: It just seemed like every problem that surfaced with her,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: she was in the middle of it, and it turned
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: to where she was the victim of all of it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: So all of a sudden, all of her problems, She's like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: everybody doing everything.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: To me and I'm being hurt.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: You know what she is this close to being Republican president, right,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: because that's a that's a big thing in the Republican right.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, black people happen to me? What does that mean?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It's all trans people are happening to me, y'all they
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: happening to me.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: That's JK.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Rolling White. See, she's in the writer community. So maybe
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: because j. K.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Rowland really acts like trans people happen to her And
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even know understand that phrase, but.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: That's just how she lived.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't get such a disappointment.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: It's like, how you're gonna write a whole book series
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and then it gets grounded into these movies that are
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: huge and it's all about somebody who doesn't fit it
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and whose parents don't want them, and then you're like,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I hate the demographic that this actually resonates with the most.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Like what And at the time that she wrote those books,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: we didn't know she was harboring all these feelings about
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: people that.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: She don't know.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing is like, girl, I know
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of trans people who are in my life.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I know not a lot of non binary people, and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: they are wonderful. You talk about this shit and it's
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: so apparent that you don't even know any of these people,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and like, why are you preoccupied with people that you
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: don't know? Waking up every day talk about people that
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you don't even know, Like, girl, it's giving weird, Like
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: find something else to do in your spare times this
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: because what is this? So at home? Susan's family grew
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: concerned as she entered periods of mania or psychosis, during
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: which she would talk like a character from her book,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: like she was the individual that she was writing, and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: in an interview with The New York Times, Susan herself said,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I would log on and get in, and at some
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: point in the day my two worlds would confide, and
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I would it would be hard to differentiate between the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: book world and the real world. It was like they
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: would sandwich together. So she getting off Facebook and completely
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: losing her touch and reality. It doesn't None of it
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: sounds legit to me.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: No, I can't imagine that the in the I cannot.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: And also like.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You're having delusions about the books that you wrote. Only
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: the books that you wrote, Yeah, only the books that
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you wrote, nothing else.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just start having delusions.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: And dropping to my T shirt brand everywhere. Oh wow,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like bye. Scam got his T shirts. Oh no,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: what happened to me? That was a mental moment.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Like, girl, you didn't even hear yourself say that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: No I did.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: You were like, I show you go into like almost
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: a trance.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Scam got his poduct Gmail dot com.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Oh wait where am I?
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know I was here for that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Something happening here because obviously she's made choices that are
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: choices that most of us wouldn't necessarily make unless we
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: were in some sort of crisis. But at the same time,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: you just going between your book characters. It feels like
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a plug, especially because in all these moments you felt
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the need to go on Facebook.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Well precisely, yeah, it does. It feels.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: It's a little weird.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: So both Susan and her husband, Troy, became concerned that
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: her addiction to the book world was causing her bipolar
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: depression symptoms to become worse.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And her addiction to.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: The book world meaning the world within her books, to
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: her Facebook group, to the face which was her book work.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, so it was allegedly Troy that instructed their twenty
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: two year old daughter to write the initial Facebook death
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: announcement after a final incident when she found Susan semi
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: conscious after overdosing on one of her medications. Troy has
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: since said this is her husband. She could not stop
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: it on her own, and even to this day, I'll
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: take one hundred percent blame, the accolades, whatever you want
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to call it. Now, how you're gonna say you're gonna
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: take blame and then say the accolades? He was like,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I will take one hundred percent blame, and I will
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: take all of the praise for what I did that
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: was valiant. Hello, I love.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: However, people respond, he's taking responsibility.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: So when they say they're gonna take responsibility that.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: He did, wait, boy?
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Who boy? Is her husband? Oh this is a bad thing. Yeah,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: thinking your death is a bad thing, especially if you
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: have a fan base and you're faking your death to
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: people you obviously care enough to log into Facebook and
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: talk to you every day.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: On the other hand, okay, so all right, I'm sorry.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: So this person and that's Troy up there, as.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Far as they know that Susan is dead, right, and
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: so they all grieve and they all you know, for
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: those who are religious, you know, they pray like, break
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Susan back. I wish just never and then and then yeah,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: break Suan. Oh breaks Suan?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: What Jesus?
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Now? Yeah, if only Susan, I would do anything. If Susan,
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: we're back, and then Susan comes back, and shouldn't they
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: just be patting themselves on the back. Shouldn't they be like.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, that's so weird if someone passes away and
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: then they came back to life, like you think you'll
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm relieved, but you're.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Kind of mad that you grief journey?
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Sure not the Yeah, I wonder if people are mad
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: when Jesus came back at the tune for Real Jesus
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: for really you play with us like that?
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, who knows.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: But this whole Facebook group was very put off.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: All the Disciples and their twelve man Facebook group were like, really,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: he gonna come back like this?
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Like he ain't even telling us. Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: So we're looking at Troy right now and they're hugged
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: up here Susan again. She's in the same shirt.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: It looks like Susan only has one shirt. That's it
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: we all.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Need to try to wear.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Seems like he's very down for Susan.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: He came out, it took all the blame for Susan
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: was like, it was me all my fake killed and
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: accolades I they killed her. So, however, though Susan's death
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and quotes was meant to keep her offline, and it
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: didn't stop her from going right back apparently, so shortly
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: after Susan's comeback post, Samantha revealed that Susan had created
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a burner Facebook profile in the Yeah, so a burner
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: is like where you don't put your real photo, your
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: real name, so you can lurk and like posts or
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: watch stories or whatever and nobody knows it's you because
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it's not your real account.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: So that's a burner.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: So a lot of people will have like finstus, which
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: is like a fake Instagram account where they can look
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: at people's worries, are like post or post their own
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: stuff without other people knowing that it's them if they're
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: like a notable person or whatever. So she made a
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: fake Facebook so that she could lurk, probably so she
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: could get on the ward the Facebook page to see
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: like which honestly, I'm not mad at that because I've
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: been thinking, like, you.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Know, funerals are for the living.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: So if there's a funeral, it's like all of us
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: having this cathartic moment to say goodbye to this person
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: that we love, but the person isn't there. So we're
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: saying all these nice things but the person can't hear it.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you, I have a funeral before I You're like,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: how cute and lovely I was. Everybody loved me, like
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I just been in the caskie like so creepy noise, noise, nothing, nothing, nothing,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the young people walk past the cask So shortly after
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Susan's comeback post, Samantha revealed that Susan had created a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: burner Facebook Samantha. So, Samantha was the other author who
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: was pissed about this whole Susan situation and had DM
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: turned was like girl, like, so are you alive or all?
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Like what's going on? All that stuff right? So Samantha
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: didn't let go. She's mad, she's a hater and love
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: this for her. She was like, I found her burner account.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: It's under the name t NC.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: And how would someone find a burner account? This is
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: all this is all totally new to me.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Because Samantha was on her ass Samantha was checking the day,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the facts, the dates.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Like Samantha figured it out.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: But I still don't see how she would find her
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: burner account if you just if you just make up
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: an account with somebody else's name.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Well, she's a writer, and the thing about being a
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: writer is that if you have enough writing out published,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and you write in a certain cadence or you write
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a certain way, it's pretty easy to figure out like, oh,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: this sounds exactly like this person who's allegedly left the plan.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: That's why Shakespeare could never have a successful burner account,
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: because people kept finding him because everything he posted was
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: to be and we don't even know. People were like, oh,
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: that's Bill again.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare was basically just a rapper. He you know, he
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: had one style of rap and we knew what he
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: was gonna give us.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, I am rap.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: And I am potempic because I don't know.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, people rapping different cadences and they stay that
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: way every single The baby Song is the exact same cadence.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: And that's why he sucks also because he sucks as
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: a human.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Anyways, now you're okay, Okay's bitch, don't kill my vibe
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: is that No.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: That's kenschick lamar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get you. So he's
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: all right for now, but so fun. Fact, in addition
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to running into Tea and Steel's account, and t and
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Steel is the fake Facebook account that Susan made, Susan
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: was also active on TikTok the entire two years under
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: her actual name Susan Nishin now a locked account, so
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: she had she was like, I'm gonna get out here
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and do these dances and not even worry about people
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: knowing if I'm alive. Can you imagine Susan hitting the
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: whoe on TikTok or making a cooking video and they're like, Susan,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: we thought you was dead. Now you over here chopping
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: on he is on TikTok.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: What happened? She was wearing that same pink shirt. People like,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: that's yes her.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, she got it on right there at the
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: top at the TikTok. Oh we got to post the
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: screenshot is TikTok. Susan retired this pink shirt because girl.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Now she uses a lot of like filters and stuff,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: so you can't really see her face. But there's a
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: recent face that has her face in the middle Susan
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: my girl, so t and Steale's profile stated that she
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: wanted to be an author, wife, office manager, and an
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: all around goofyer from Georgia. Okay, that's what her fake
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: her fake Facebook profile said. Susan's Amazon bio states that
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: she's a wife, a mom, a meme and a friend
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: who lives in southeastern corner of Tennessee with her husband
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: of twenty four years. They're two cats and four snakes.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Two cats and four snakes, all right, we live in
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: a while like these are interesting pets. So soon after
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Susan's death, in quotes, Connie or Tease, her virtual assistant,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: posted to the war that her family's health issues made
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: it difficult to continue to be an admin to the
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: group and asked if anyone wanted to take over her duties.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Under this post, he and Steve Old commented, I'll take it,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Connie Ortiz, I will overhaul it, and I hope that
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: that pleases you and Susan, who is definitely dead and
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: not me from a fake account right.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Now at the end.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: But so she volunteered to take over her own account
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: from her burner, so I'm sure that that also led
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Samantha to be like, oh, so you're volunteering to take
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: over the account that.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Or is there an account for someone who's dead, because.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: The girls are still reading the books and they want
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: to talk about the books, and Susan wanted to read
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: their comments. And when you die, like, people stop saying
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: mean things about you once you're dead, unless you're evil
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: like Hitler. We got hits for him all day, like
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: it's you know, he a piece of shit. We hate
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: him to this day. Nobody will ever wear that mustache
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: because they know what it means, Like, well, it's not true.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: There's a whole group of people that's decided.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: People who still love him, but for the majority of us,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: we don't like that motherfucker.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Fuck him.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: So but for the most part, if you die, like
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: even if you work on a shitty in life, people
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: will still talk nice about you or talk nice about
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: your work. So I'm sure she got off on like
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: reading people talk about her books and stuff because they're
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: not going to really say anything.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Mean for unless you're gonna get a free book.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Right, so then they was like even nicer stuff. So
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: with that, Steel gained control of the group and Susan
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: gained a front row seat to the grieving and infighting
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: that occurred on the war, including the harassment of her
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: former friend Samantha. So Samantha was like, someday writes shit
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: is fishy, and the girls in the war were like,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: she's dead, how dare you fuck is Samantha? Oh?
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: So Samantha guessed that she was not done.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Samantha was talking shit and everyone is like jumping on
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: her about it. So Susan loved that. So the fallout
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of the announcement Susan's fake death had additional ramifications outside
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: of upsetting her fans. An initial announcement post it was
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: implied that the alleged bullying from her fellow authors in
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: the war drove her to take her life. Remember, she
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: was like, the girls are being mean to me, So
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I think my dad. Y'all know, y'all know how you do.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: So some of Susan's fan base took those accusations and
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: pointed fingers and citing further conflict with an already grieving community.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Samantha had been one of the authors arbitrarily accused of
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: bullying Susan and was repeatedly harassed in the inter minute
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: two years as a result. Following Susan's death. Two fundraisers
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: claimed to benefit the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline were shared to the ward,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: though it's unconfirmed who created them and where they came
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: from and where the money actually went. So it kind
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: of seems like Susan came in as the fake admin
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: with her TN steel and was like, hey, y'all, it's
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: so sad that Susan had died because we all loved
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: her and she was so sexy and that pink shirt
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: was really killing it, and it was okay that she
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: wore it every day, and also, can y'all donate to
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: these funds? That is definitely going to the funds, and
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: then nobody.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Did they make any money off of it.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: People donated. Samantha had been one of the authors who
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: was accused of Bully and Susan. Right following Susan's death,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: two fundraisers claiming to benefit they we don't know where
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the money went. So a group of best selling authors
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: even dedicated an anthology of paranormal bully romance titled Bully
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: King Anthology to Susan. So this is like, Susan said,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the bullies killed your favorite bitch and then they wrote
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: a book like and this is dedicated to Susan because
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the bullies had killed her. Yeah, and it's rumored but unconfirmed,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: that the proceeds were given to her family. So they
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: really were trying to honor Susan's life even though she
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: was alive. So the summary of the book reads, fall
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: in love with the jaded lead root for the drop
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: dead sexy anti hero you know she got titties, dropped
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: dead sexy and run from or two Dangerous Creatures of
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the Night no Paranormal bully romance novels are a subgenre
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: of romance novels where characters pursue romantic relationships through bullying,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: while paranormal elements play a role in the characters' lives
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: as all right, this is.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: My point, how many how many fans off this shit?
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Could there be?
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: This?
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I would say that this group has seven people in it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: There's just no fucking You.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Don't read books about ghosts that bully. And then you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: have got sex.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: No, it's gohoes sex Casper.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: But he's mean and it sucks.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: It was what was this? I can't remember. He had
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: a cousin that was more. Uh, you knows he did
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: he had a cousin that was sort of up to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: no goods sometimes.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, people loved Wednesday Adams. Was she supposed
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: to be a ghost. So editors are also popped up offering
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the edit Susan's unreleased novel for her family for free.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: So that's she getting free edited out of this. Her
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: final novel was successfully published, and Love to Last a
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Lifetime is now available for two ninety nine on Kindle
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: if you all want to get into it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, successfully published, by the way, has a different meaning
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: now than it used to. You can get something published.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you can go to FedEx agaust I'm
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: published precisely, Yeah, I think Susan. I'm not feeling that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: with Susan. We're getting top of the line.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's not giving that. But in February twenties, when
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: someone claiming to be Susan's daughter posted Susan's account like
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: posted to her account complaining that none of her books
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: had been purchased for several months, so they're like, nobody
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: is buying my dad bumba books. And y'all know that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: she had a tragic life and a tragic death, so
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: by her book and as such would soon be unavailable
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: for purchase unless sales increase. So somewhere pretending to be
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: her daughter was like, if y'all don't start buying my
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: dad Bama book, it's gonna be dead to the world
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: because we're gonna take it off.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Launch this ship you don't want, You're not gonna have
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: it anymore.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you better stop. You better start want this ship
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: you don't want. That's right, Why y'all don't want this shit?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Y'all don't want.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Y'all better get it right now before you can't get
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: it anymore, even though you don't want it.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Although there is a certain technique to that.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I mean there is like scarcely creates demand and and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: still does. There's so many diamonds in the world, y'all
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: like they're just intoed them out when they stole them.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: You know, the valuable.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: I got some right here in my parkt there.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Was loose diamonds follows everywhere you go.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: There was comic years ago that used to do. She
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: would go in and make a deal with clubs where
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: she would do Monday nights and she would take the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: door and they would get the bar sales. And her
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: big hook was it's for women only, which I don't
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: even know if that's legal, by the way, but she
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: was for women only. Only women can come in. Now.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I don't prior to that, I don't know that that
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: many people wanted to see her one way or the other.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: But by excluding a group, by in a very public,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: deliberate way, excluding a group, she made tons doing that.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Oh I bet and listen, men already hate women.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of assists endered men hate women, so I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: mean just you know, in general, So she just made
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: like the best advertisement campaign because then they're gonna come
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: on and complain like, see, that's why we hate women.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Look at this, Look at this women's only event.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Oh and they did. Men made a big fuss about it,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: like the very men. So it's very much like the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: daughter the shit you don't want, you are not gonna
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: be able to have it.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: If you don't buy it right now.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, even though you don't want it. And I've
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: seen that.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not gonna let you vacuum this room if
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: you don't.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: And I love this. So it's unknown if sales did
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: increase after the post, but one of her Amazon Kindlestore
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: ratings jumped from it. Was like two hundred thousand, like
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: like almost three hundred thousand, and then it jumped to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: eighty two thousand, around eighty two thousand, so it jumped
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: right high up. Yeah, so somebody would at least looked
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: at the book.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: So, since Susan's resurrection a man, many have called for
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: her to be investigated and prosecuted for fraud, claiming that
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: she faked her death for book sales and to solicit
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: cast donations. Two police officers even visited her home to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: discuss the allegations, and still others have reported her to
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the FBI Cyber Crimes Unit. So, and that's the thing,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Like she came back to the group chin and said,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: let the games begin. We gonna have fun, and some
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: people were like, oh you're back. We love you, and other.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: People were like, we're reporting you to the FBI.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that would be illegal, but I guess
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: it might be right.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the f to be in the eyes, especially if
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: they can trace back those gofundmes to her for her
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: fake death.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, to charity. Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: So Susan has since said I'm sorry for their mourning,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: but from a legal standpoint, I did nothing wrong morally,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I might have done something wrong, but legally there's nothing wrong.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I love that this is a lawful.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: But you remember your expression, Yes, I created it right
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: here on this show.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, she was like, look I didn't.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to all of those who might have
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: been offended by me faking my own death. Like the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: fakest worst apology anytime, an apology. Yeah, yeah, I'm so sorry.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: If you were offended.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Clearly people were offended, Otherwise you wouldn't be doing this
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: public apology. You wouldn't open your front facing camera if
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: people weren't offended, were talked about if why you gas
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: like us in your apology. Don't put if in your apology.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Wait did you just say you wouldn't open your front face.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your front face a camera and get on here
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: and record, just talk about some if if nobody's If
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: nobody's mad, you wouldn't be apologizing. So there's no if
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if if someone was if.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: It's how people protect themselves. So it's like, I'm so
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: sorry for their morning. Like what do you mean you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: faked your death to your fans directly?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, she could have faked something less. She could
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: have faked like just a really bad rap.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: What about a coma, like a cute little coma, because
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: people come out of those all the time. Give us
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: a self opera moment.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: And just everybody would be They would be sad, they
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: would know, they would feel that they brought her back.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that would be more satisfying if she just
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: woke up one day and was like, I'm.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Back, y'all, or just I just I think it's yeah,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: a lesser because death being so, she could have faced something.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: She could have just faked a nap and people, you know,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: because nap is you know, trying out away from people
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah, it's good.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: She could have faked a vacation, right something. So for now,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: she is taking a break from writing to deal with
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the fake Susans that have popped up impersonating her on
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: social media, and the additional fallout from coming back from
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the dead. I do believe there probably are some fake Susans,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the fake
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Susans were real Susan pretending to be fake Susan. Because
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: she is a perpetual victim, so she's trying to find
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: more victim.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Is a promotional right, it's just because we're talking about Susan.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: She blamed her husband, although I will say, Susan, you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: married right because your husband stood beside you. He said,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I'm a stand beside her. She did, I'm a stand
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: beside the coffin. He probably went to the funeral home,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: took some selfies, posted them like he's giving a real
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: faithful spouse.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: He said, I was the one who faked her dead. Everybody.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: So all the.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Accolades, yeah, all the accolades, all.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: The accolades, and if y'all mad, y'all, y'all can be
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: mad at me, but also all the accolades, if y'all
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: love me for it.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: It's really taking the taking the bullet for.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Her, right, but also the flowers. He's like the bullet,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: but also the flowers, but mostly flowers. Flowers were little
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: bullets in them. Let's talk about it. So all fourteen
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: of her titles remain available for purchase on Amazon, Kindle,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: And Susan is a whole criminal. And I'm gonna read
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: these book titles because they are very funny. Here we
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: go romance novel books, Losing Him and Finding You, Stolen moments, Ooh,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: let meet you aside home, Chance encounters. Oh, you like
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: to have sex at work? Chance encounters too, letting go,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: y'all can have sex at work no more than installed cameras.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Losing Hope Book one in the Finding Me duet Finding Faith,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: So you already lost hope, now you find faith? Book
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: two in the Finding Me duet, never.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Anything about there is there anything about neck bounch.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: Black pants jerking it on the great Hound?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, neck pants on the Greyhound. Gotcha?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Very romantic smoking mountain love and remember yeah, oh yes, Paula,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: that's all I was about to say. Susan lived in
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the smoking mountains of Tennessee. You see, you know, because
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: you drove across these smoking mountains. Absolutely special delivery. I'm
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: guessing the delivery was peniss my crush. That's when you're
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: stalking somebody, but you're making it cute, calling it a crush,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: his wicked way. Oh that sounds like he was toxic
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: but sexy. And then Love to Last a Lifetime, which
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: was her posthumous.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Public Oh that was the one after after she died.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yes, not that long.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: And then I love the title last a Lifetime, but
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: it's her lifetime had ended.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's deep. That's now her husband doesn't have
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: to do her anymore. She had loved to last a lifetime,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: but that life dungeon over. That's why, that's why he
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: helped in the grave.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Sex and the Cemetery my posthumous book, making it,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: making it at the mortuary. No, not the necro, not
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: the neckro from the us Oh man, Susan. I don't
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: know how to feel about you, Paula final thoughts on Susan, Susan,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: because she didn't call you, and she should No, she.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Should have before she started the whole stupid thing. All right, Susan,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you know. You've really transgressed, first
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: of all. But I for me, and I can't speak
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: for everybody. I can't speak for the ward, and I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: can't speak for the writer's community. But for me, you
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: could redeem yourself by writing a book wherein you explain
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: that women's breasts don't heave. It's a big thing.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: That's the cornerstone of her work.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: That's a big thing in romance novels. There's always heaven
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: rest on a heave. They got you agress never heaved,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: maybe even all the time the way here heave to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: the seat. No, that's because you don't take care of yourself.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: That's what that right now, y'all can't hear it? Do
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: you hear my titties? That was my titties?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: That was yeah, No, that's not a sexual thing. That's
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: a that's a your lung should be so yeah, And
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: they don't keep. And I'm sure a lot of guys
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: feel like somehow they didn't you know, or women feel
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: like they didn't give their partner what they needed or
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: wanted because the breast didn't heave. They have to breast,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: don't keep. I love just hanging.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Your piece of advice is not about her faking her death.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: It's just about the heathen breast.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you, I would be willing to put
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: the whole you forgive scam aside if she will just
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: clear up, if she'll take, you know, tractic heave right,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: if she'll make this one step towards honesty on behalf
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: of the entire romance novel writing community.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I mean losing him and finding you that's idol alone.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I might have to read
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: that and see if I find myself by the.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: End, losing him and no finding you.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: They say, everywhere you go, there you are.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe I need to read this book and figure out where.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: I am at.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: No, you got to get a GPS.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: It's ways, but for finding yourself, that's the book I write. Well, Susan.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Over here, Susan, I guess I'm glad you're back alive.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. But you do have another book.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: You You could just write about how you lied about
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: being dead and the girls would read it. So some
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: more book. What about losing me and finding me again?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Or I died but really I did it?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Back from the grave?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to say.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Susan.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Ain't nobody ever opened up the door
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: at the at the funeral homent and hopped out, you
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: know as a mausoleum.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Ashes to ashes, dust to dus tada that could be
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: ashes to ashy.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I put low shit on and I'm back to life,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: you know, like, work on it. These are working titles,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: you got it, Susan. All right, the Satis part of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the shows where I have to let Paula Pound's son go.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Let's take another break before we're back.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: But before we do that scammer of the week. So
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna talk about charlot to who maybe or
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: maybe not as worthy of our praise. I love that
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: it's a Florida woman because I know, Pobaly, you have
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: some interest in the Florida scam community. So a Florida
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: woman has been arrested after a four year long romance
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: scam keeping on the romance theme that resulted in defrauding
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: an eighty seven year old Holocaust survivor. If you would
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: do the Holocaust, and I met a lot of Holocaust
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: survivors because they used to like I don't want to
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: call it a tour because that feels weird, but they
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: would go to schools and like we would meet them
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: and they would tell us stories and stuff from like
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: their days and almost speaking, yeah, public.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: Speaking, there we go. It's not a tour.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm making it sound like they Jack Carlow like downstage,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: like put your hair. No, it's not, it's not that.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: But but it was really dope because you got to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: get stories from elders like who really experienced like these
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: tragic events, and like it was really cool to meet them.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: But how you won't.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Take advantage of somebody who already went through so much, Like,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: come on now, scam a investment banker who's eighty six
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: and not a Holocaust survivor.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Like, god damn.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: So Peaches Stergio, well your name is Peaches. You all
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: you could do was have a life of crime. Oh
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: look at Peaches in her mugshots. She looked like she was.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: This looks like if we cropped out one bridesmaid from
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: a photo. You know those weddings where they have several
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: different things they make you pay for, like you gotta
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: go on the Bachelor Red Trip, you gotta have a
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: matches swimsuit that y'all get off eds, and then y'all
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: go to the wedding and they make you wear an
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: a line dress that don't work for your body type.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: It's given like they cropped her face out on one
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: of those pholkos. Though.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: Look she's got the blush on the lip, the brown.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: But there's crime behind Peach's eyes. Yeah, Peach.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: I mean her name is Peaches. Her family set her
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: up for crime. That's a crime legacy name.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, you're too young. But there used to be
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: a band or is it duo Peaches in an herb
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: I know about in herb Yeah yeah, yeah, about them
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Peaches. Yeah, this Peach is really I'm telling
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: you there's crime behind those eyes. It is. And I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: don't think those eyebrows are.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: Real, No, they're definitely not.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Those eyebrows came from Sophora and that's okay.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: I get mine there too sometimes.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: But Peach's got a good beat and it's giving a
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not mad at Peacha so far. So Peaches,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: who's her name is Peacha Sturgioe which she didn't have
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: a chance thirty six. She began her scam in twenty
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: seventeen when she met her victim in an online dating site.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: She eventually asked him for funds to pay for her lawyer,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: who she claims was refusing to release the funds for
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: a jury an injury settlement, so she was basically like,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: I got a big settlement. Oh yeah, Peacha slipped on
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: some juice fl and the girls aren't trying to give
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: you my coins until I pay them or whatever.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: So can you a Holocaust survivor give me coins?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Mm?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: So the victim gave her the money, but there were
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: no funds to be received from any injury settlement and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I've said this a billion times. I'll say it again.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: If anybody's like, hey, I got a lot of money,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: but I need money from you, stop.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: Right there, full stop.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Right you are heiress, or you got funds coming in,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: or you got a settlement, but you need money for me.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: It's not giving you have money. That's not how money work.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: No, thank you.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Just start right there, walk away. Scream you know that
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: makes people uncomfortable. Just do a scream. You know, have
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: you ever screamed, like in chill company, Like you're just
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: chilling somebody O'll talking and you're just like a try it.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: It's very unnerving, and then maybe they'll leave.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think they give up that easily. You know,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: peaches looks like more of a pomegranate to me. Do
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: you get that, Yeah, because you're of a pomegran Yeah,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: cramb behind them.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure. You open that up. It's gonna be
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: hella work. Pomegranates are the hardest working fruit in the game.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't, I didn't sign up.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: For a job.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: When I'm eating fruit and we opened up pomegranate, you
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: gotta munch on all the seas, spin them out. That's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of work.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why that palm juice is so expensive. Yeah,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: thousands of people worked on that eight ounce to.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Get it all out of them tiny little seeds. But
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: it does bust though. It do be busting. So shout
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: out to pomp spots of the show. So over the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: following four years, Feats forged documents and impersonated a bank
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: employ in order to extract from her victim more than
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: more fancy trips, rolex watches, and luxury purchases. I mean,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: were they going together? It just kind of sound like
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: they was going together. This man was eighty seven peaches,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: she knew how to do her makeup and keep it cute.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: It sounds like he got a batty and Batty's cost money.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Batti's cost money. I lost my wallet for a whole
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: weekend and didn't even notice because my boot was paying
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  Speaker 1: for everything. Daddies are expensive. You know, what are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna do?
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  Speaker 3: Did you get it back your walle?
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  Speaker 1: I did, yeah, and didn't have to pay for nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't even have to say I lost my wallet.
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  Speaker 1: I lost my wallet and didn't notice because I never
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  Speaker 1: had to reach for it.
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  Speaker 3: Amen. Wow, I don't have a wallet.
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  Speaker 4: I just it's not her own vibes, Paula.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just put my money in my pocket. I
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  Speaker 3: don't have a wallet.
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  Speaker 1: You just telling me you're Queen Victoria of comedy, and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you don't have to pay for this
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  Speaker 1: except for dunkin Donuts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, y'all caught her up in an altercation. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: owe you money. I'm gonna get that settlement, but first
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: you got to help me pay my lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll do that. Where do I sign?
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  Speaker 4: So in total, Peaches manipulated her victim into writing sixty
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  Speaker 4: two checks falling over two point eight million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Oh g niques. Okay, there's something wrong. Okay, Well, clearly
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  Speaker 3: the victim had been through a lot, and therefore maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: I want to.
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  Speaker 1: Say, Peaches, even though there's definitely no life behind her eyes,
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  Speaker 1: she feels like a fun time. I feel like if
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  Speaker 1: I went to dinner with Peaches, she would keep me
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  Speaker 1: laughing and all my toes. So I don't know, Maybe
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  Speaker 1: she's worth two point eight million.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're putting a lot of backstory into Peaches.
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  Speaker 1: Peacha just okay, Peacha just got a fresh blowout, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: her hair is shiny, Okay, she not using three on
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  Speaker 1: one shampoo. She definitely got one on one shampoo and conditioner. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I like Peaches. This is a long one, guys, but
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  Speaker 1: we're at the end. So eventually he lost his life
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: savings and had to give up his apartment. At the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: same time, Peaches bought a home in a gated community,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: a condominium boat, and numerous cars, including a Corvette and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: a Chevy Suburban. A Chevy Suburban gives me like Peaches
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  Speaker 1: had a man on the side.
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  Speaker 3: Because Peaches wasn't coming across for the eighty seven year old.
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  Speaker 1: She was driven the Corvette, but I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: Chevy was for whoever was giving Peaches that d whoever
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  Speaker 1: Peaches was getting a banana from, was getting that Chevy.
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  Speaker 3: I just heard a story that I think it was.
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  Speaker 3: There was an MPR. Maybe that sometimes mismanagement of money
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  Speaker 3: is often a precursor and early sign of dementia. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and my guess is that eighty seven year old man,
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  Speaker 3: after everything this poor guy's been through, that that is what.
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  Speaker 1: This is, and that's why scammers target elderly people. We
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: said all the time on the show, call your grandma,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: call your grandpa. Otherwise You're not gonna get no inheritance
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: because whoever calling them gonna get it. Okay, I'm about
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: to call me Mall and see how she's doing and
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  Speaker 1: see what's going on on on the porch. But Peaches
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  Speaker 1: has been charged with one count of wire fraud, which
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  Speaker 1: carries a max sentence of twenty years. So if you
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  Speaker 1: do it on Western Union, if you do it on
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Ze Honey, if they catch you, they're gonna give you
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  Speaker 1: the charges. That's like the mail I told you ill
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: don't mail your scams because the postal unit will show
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  Speaker 1: up and they'll put you in that car with no
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: doors and you go into jail.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I think, Peaches has it coming.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what if he had fun? He eighty seven,
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  Speaker 1: he's the last years of his life. Peaches sounds like
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: a thrill. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, let Peaches out, you.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Know, let her let peachas out. That's gonna be that
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: T shirt is gonna fly off the show.
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  Speaker 4: Peaches back on the tree. I wander in the street.
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  Speaker 3: You can get a Scam Goddess T shirt and also
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  Speaker 3: it comes with a let Peaches out.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Let Peaches out. Yes, it comes with a fresh peach.
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  Speaker 1: We can't guarantee how fresh it is though, this is America.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: But we always ask at the end of the show,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: where would you like to be found?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: Anything?
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  Speaker 1: You want to plug any's social here.
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  Speaker 3: We've been talking about death and you said where would
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  Speaker 3: you like to be found? Oh? Please?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: You and Nathan Crest both went here. He was like
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: the Librea tar pits.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, not your body, bro that you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's what I tell you meant tell me it's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna be like hovering over the toilet or something.
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  Speaker 1: No. I would hope your ghost doesn't have the hon
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: of toilet. That feels like a bad ghost job. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to hants a mansion.
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  Speaker 3: Where would I like to be found? I have a
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: podcast called Nobody listens to Paula Poundstone and I tour
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: theaters around the country all the time, and you can
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: find out where at Paula Poundstone dot com. Click on
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: the tour page and you can see if I'm gonna
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: be near you, either to come to see my show
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: or to get away.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: They're coming to see Also, only the hottest people at
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Paula Poundstone show, so you better be sexy when you
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: go to the door.
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  Speaker 4: Is that creating enough scarcity here?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: And it's good right, Yeah, we don't like people.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: That non sexy is not allowed. No, all right, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: As always, you can find me at IV A L
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: A C I d VA Lacy on all platforms. Y'all
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: watch the George Lopez Show. I'll be popping up on
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: the air a lot the new season of I Carly. I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: don't know when that's coming out, but we just wrapped
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: this so y'all will see soon. And if you want
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: to see the photos of our beautiful Queen Susan in
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: her pink shirt in all different locations. Scam got his
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: pod on all platforms.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: Scam got his.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Pot on the Instagram. You know that's where I post
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: all the photos. And then if you want to talk
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: to me, scam got his pot on Twitter. Congregation, send
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: me those emails and stitch on your friends and your family.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Tell us you're scams as long as they're retired, or
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: if they're not and you want to put us on.
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  Speaker 4: We love some tea.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Scam got his pot at gmail dot com. Congregations stay resurrecting, Okay,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: let's all come back on the third day hey Man
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  Speaker 1: bam got iss,