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  Speaker 1: Cal Raley went on to win and won a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Rtt Rooker, had he beaten cal Raley in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: might have been the guy to get a million. I
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  Speaker 1: thought this should have gotten a lot more attention. It
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  Speaker 1: was quite curious to me. Welcome everyone to the Thursday
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  Speaker 1: edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alana
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  Speaker 1: Rizzo and Alana I would say the sport is still
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  Speaker 1: a glow from the All Star festivities, home run Derby,
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  Speaker 1: the All Star Game itself, the swing off, the use
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  Speaker 1: of abs. We've got a lot to talk about relative
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  Speaker 1: to the All Star Game, and of course we are
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  Speaker 1: going to look forward to the second half. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Ken, always good to be with you on this Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Great to see you. It is a good time to
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  Speaker 2: be a baseball fan. We are on the cusp of
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  Speaker 2: the second half of the Major League Baseball regular season.
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  Speaker 2: But to your point, Ken, let's talk about the Midsummer Classic.
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  Speaker 2: What are your biggest takeaways from what you covered over
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  Speaker 2: the course of this week.
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  Speaker 1: The swing off. The swing off, to me, Alana was
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  Speaker 1: something that I never expected to like, and I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: And I loved it in part because I saw how much.
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  Speaker 1: The players loved it, and I wrote about this yesterday
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  Speaker 1: in The Athletic. These guys were so fired up they
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  Speaker 1: spilled out of the dugout they were cheering their teammates on.
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  Speaker 1: It was so cool from that perspective, and that alone,
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  Speaker 1: to me, was just so refreshing and so enlightening to
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  Speaker 1: see guys. We always ask them to act like they're
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  Speaker 1: playing a little kid's game. Don't forget you're playing a
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  Speaker 1: little kid's game and you're making all this money, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes fans get frustrated when they don't. And yet in
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  Speaker 1: this situation, they acted like they were playing a little
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  Speaker 1: kid's game, and it was really cool to see. Now
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  Speaker 1: people have said, well, maybe use this for every game,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the players were saying that, no, it's
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  Speaker 1: not something you would use for a regular season game,
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  Speaker 1: a postseason game, no chance. You have to decide those
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  Speaker 1: on the field properly. Even though you can argue that
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  Speaker 1: the Manfred Man and all that is not proper. It's
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  Speaker 1: been an improvement in the game in some ways, not
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  Speaker 1: all so for an All Star game. I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was great. I don't know that I would want to
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  Speaker 1: see it in any other circumstance. Than that.
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  Speaker 2: No, it would definitely less than the impact if it
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  Speaker 2: was every single game. But I love the fact, Ken,
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  Speaker 2: that an exhibition game that seemingly means nothing meant something
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  Speaker 2: at the end. You don't want the All Star Game
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  Speaker 2: to end in a tie. Justin Turner had mentioned this
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  Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty. I'm sure he's not the first
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  Speaker 2: person to mention it, but I remember this clearly, him saying,
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  Speaker 2: why don't we decide the All Star Game by a
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  Speaker 2: home run swing contest? And you can tell, as you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned that the players loved it. It mattered the National
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  Speaker 2: League one. So maybe an exhibition, but obviously it's an
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  Speaker 2: exhibition game for the fans, and the teams got into
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  Speaker 2: it as well. The players got into it also. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's move on to what actually matters on the field,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the second half of the season. Ken, you
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  Speaker 2: had a note to call him recently about the Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers perhaps being buyers at the deadline, specifically for
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  Speaker 2: bullpen arms. Tell me more all on it.
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  Speaker 1: We both know that President Baseball Operations Andrew Friedman built
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  Speaker 1: this team to be deadline proof. The thing he hates
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  Speaker 1: most is overpaying for players at the deadline and specifically
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  Speaker 1: overpaying for relievers. Well, guess what, the Dodgers, with their
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  Speaker 1: usual run of injuries, are going to need to overpay
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  Speaker 1: for a reliever. Now. Part of that is due to
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  Speaker 1: Tanner Scott being not nearly as effective as he was
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  Speaker 1: last season for Miami and San Diego. It's given him
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  Speaker 1: eight homers already and last year just all three. The
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  Speaker 1: other part is the injuries. Evan Phillips of course, is
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  Speaker 1: out for the season. They're expecting Blake Tryin in back
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  Speaker 1: this week or next week, I should say, and then
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  Speaker 1: they're expecting Michael Kopek to follow some time in August,
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  Speaker 1: and possibly Bruce dar graderol who has had shoulder surgery.
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  Speaker 1: He's coming off of that. But with pitchers coming off injuries,
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  Speaker 1: you never know exactly what they're going to give you.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, I do expect the Dodgers to be in
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  Speaker 1: the market for more bullpen help. It would be difficult
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  Speaker 1: to imagine them laying over Tanner Scott when they just
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  Speaker 1: gave him seventy two million dollars, but one if the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers could get a big lded that can certainly pair
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  Speaker 1: him with Scott and be much more effective going about
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  Speaker 1: it that way.
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  Speaker 2: How much are bullpen arms? I know it seems a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a ridiculous question, Ken, but how much
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  Speaker 2: are bullpen arms coveted? Right now? It seems like not
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  Speaker 2: just the Dodgers need relief core they need everybody seems
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  Speaker 2: to need it, especially those that are contending.
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  Speaker 3: Is that why the Dodgers have to overpay?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and you're exactly right. Every team wants bullpen help,
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  Speaker 1: every contender, I should say, And the reason for that
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  Speaker 1: is bullpens are generally volatile. Very few relievers are trustworthy
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  Speaker 1: and consistent the entire year. But more than that, teams
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  Speaker 1: blow through their bullpens. As starters over the years have
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  Speaker 1: pitched fewer innings, the teams have become more reliant on
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  Speaker 1: their relievers, and by this time I can think of
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  Speaker 1: San Diego in particular, San Diego first team ever to
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  Speaker 1: put three relievers in the All Star Game. Tremendous, But
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  Speaker 1: they are running these guys down and it's not their fault.
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  Speaker 1: They play a ton of cl those games. Mike Schuldt
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  Speaker 1: is doing what he has to do. But they need relief,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean that in the literal sense, relief just
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  Speaker 1: to give their relievers a little bit more rest, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more of a break. And that's just a
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  Speaker 1: team that has a very successful bullpen. You can think
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  Speaker 1: of all the teams that do not have successful bullpens,
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  Speaker 1: and they too want to get one of the deadline
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  Speaker 1: at least two.
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  Speaker 2: Part question for you, Ken, does Dustin May go to
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  Speaker 2: the bullpen as an option? And with the Tigers running
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  Speaker 2: away with the ALE Central, are the relievers on the
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  Speaker 2: other Ale Central teams up for grabs.
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  Speaker 1: Dustin May is an interesting question, and that kind of
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  Speaker 1: depends on the health of their starting pitchers and which
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  Speaker 1: of their starting pitchers are able to return. And they
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  Speaker 1: are expecting, of course Snell to come back on top
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  Speaker 1: of Glass now being back, so it would be an
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  Speaker 1: option for them in the AL Central. You mentioned that,
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  Speaker 1: and I wrote about that today. Manuel Class from the Guardians,
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  Speaker 1: Kate Smith perhaps to a lesser extent from the Guardians,
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  Speaker 1: and the two guys from the Twins, Duran and Griffin Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: All of these pitchers will be asked about the willingness, though,
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  Speaker 1: is a question the willingness of those teams to make
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  Speaker 1: such moves. Now we enter the post All Star Game
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  Speaker 1: period with the Twins just four games out of a
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  Speaker 1: wild card and the Guardians just four and a half.
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  Speaker 1: These next two weeks, not just for those teams, but
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  Speaker 1: for all of the bubble teams will be critical. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to decide who they are, what they
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  Speaker 1: want to do at the deadline, sell by by and
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  Speaker 1: sell So the Indians, I'm sorry. The Guardians also traditionally
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  Speaker 1: are a difficult team to deal with, and what I
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  Speaker 1: mean by that is they value their players a certain
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  Speaker 1: way and they stay disciplined to those values. They don't waver,
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  Speaker 1: and that alone will make it difficult to trade with them.
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  Speaker 1: For Class A. The Twins kind of a similar circumstance,
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  Speaker 1: and we just don't know where they are. Teams in
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  Speaker 1: the process of being sold. Do they want to buy,
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  Speaker 1: do they want to sell? I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are fancying their players, but they could very well
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  Speaker 1: have a good two weeks a year and get right
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  Speaker 1: back in the thick of it too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so much can happen over the course of the
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  Speaker 2: next fourteen games. One team probably that didn't want the
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  Speaker 2: All Star Break ken is the Boston Red Sox. On
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  Speaker 2: some kind of high right now going into the All
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  Speaker 2: Star Break. You've spoke about the Red Sox trade deadline approaching,
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  Speaker 2: or the Red Sox approaching the deadline rather on Tuesday'
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  Speaker 2: Spoul territory. Now on ninety eight point five, the sports
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  Speaker 2: have here in Boston. Tony Mazzarati responded.
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  Speaker 3: To what you had to say.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen, ket Rolsenball says, now they don't even
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  Speaker 1: need a number two starter.
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  Speaker 4: Mess if he were here right now, I'd strangle him
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  Speaker 4: with his bow tie, is what I would do.
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  Speaker 1: He's out of his mind.
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  Speaker 4: So look, I mean, they've been on a nice stretch here.
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  Speaker 4: Gilito and BeO have been good of late. You really
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  Speaker 4: want to bank on that down the stretch in October.
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  Speaker 4: Wouldn't you rather have Geelito as your number four starter
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  Speaker 4: and BeO is your third guy? Go out and get
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  Speaker 4: Joe Ryan. Now you're talking now, you can match up
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  Speaker 4: with just about anybody. So this idea of like you
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  Speaker 4: know that they're already there. Let's not get stupid about it.
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  Speaker 4: And I love Kenny Kenny. I've learned a lot.
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  Speaker 1: From Kenny over the years. So you know just about the.
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  Speaker 4: Game on the field, of how teams build lineups and whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But no, you don't stop here with the young guys,
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  Speaker 4: they've got go out and get yourself a pitcher that
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  Speaker 4: can be here for the next two or three years
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  Speaker 4: and then and that gives your prospects time to develop.
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  Speaker 4: They just took what fourteen pictures in the draft or
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  Speaker 4: whatever the number was, So by yourself sometime, go get another.
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  Speaker 3: Guy, Ken, What is your response to the response?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Tony and I are friends, and I've
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  Speaker 1: known Tony forever. He used to be a baseball writer
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  Speaker 1: before he obviously went over to the dark side of
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  Speaker 1: talk radio. Now I understand what he's saying, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be misconstrued here, and maybe it's my
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  Speaker 1: own fault for being misconstrued. I did say at one
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  Speaker 1: point I believe they don't necessarily need a number two starter,
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  Speaker 1: but I clarified it in when I wrote today too Ideally, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you want the best picture you can get. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not sure the kind of picture that Tony's talking about
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  Speaker 1: and the ideal number two prototype is going to be available.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I mentioned Charlie Morton as an alternative.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned that on Fox Monday, mentioned it in my
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  Speaker 1: column today. And when I look at this and I
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  Speaker 1: look at Joe Ryan let's use the picture that Tony
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  Speaker 1: used as an example big market teams. Fans of big
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  Speaker 1: market teams, talk show radio hosts who work in markets
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  Speaker 1: with big market teams generally think the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: league operates at their disposal, that when they want a
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  Speaker 1: player from another team, a smaller market or mid market team,
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  Speaker 1: they can just go get them. I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: the Twins are going to want to trade Joe Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the key thing here. So if the Twins
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  Speaker 1: don't want to trade Joe Ryan and all these other
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  Speaker 1: teams that have theoretical number twos, and there may be
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  Speaker 1: a couple of them that even would factor into such
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  Speaker 1: a conversation, it's going to be difficult to do. So
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  Speaker 1: you may have to look at all their alternatives. And
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  Speaker 1: I would advise Tony that if he wants to strangle
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  Speaker 1: me with my bow tie, I probably would not be
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  Speaker 1: advisable for him to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good call, I'll and I will make sure I
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  Speaker 2: go down to the radio station myself and stand up
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  Speaker 2: for you, Ken Rosenthal.
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  Speaker 3: How dare he? I'm very close to the station now.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of want, I don't bind it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want anybody say anything. Pretty much but there was a
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was exactly taken the right way.
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  Speaker 1: And again maybe that's on me. But what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: again just to repeat, they don't necessarily need a number two. Ideally, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if they can get a number two.
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  Speaker 1: That's the issue.
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  Speaker 3: Good question that's going to be. That remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Much more to come on Fair Territory with
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  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. We will be back right after this with
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  Speaker 2: The first one is from armand he wants to know
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  Speaker 2: the swing off or Golden at bat which gets voted
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  Speaker 2: into the regular season in the future.
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  Speaker 1: Armand I would say neither, and I hope neither. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I love the swing off, but as we said at
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  Speaker 1: the top, it's not for every game. We don't want
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  Speaker 1: it deciding ties in the regular season or postseason. The
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  Speaker 1: golden at bat, for those who don't know what that is,
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  Speaker 1: that is the ability to bring back a player out
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  Speaker 1: of order late in the innings so he can take
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  Speaker 1: one at bat. So, for instance, Aaron Judge is scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to hit eighth in the ninth inning, Well, you use
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  Speaker 1: the golden in bat and you hit him in the
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  Speaker 1: ninth I don't think that's coming into the regular season
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  Speaker 1: anytime soon either. It would be interesting, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: concept that I kind of would like to see maybe
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  Speaker 1: in an All Star game format first, because the one
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  Speaker 1: thing that is different about baseball than say basketball or
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  Speaker 1: football is that you can't get the ball in the
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  Speaker 1: best player's hands, in this case, the bat in the
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  Speaker 1: best player's hands at the most critical moment of the contest.
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  Speaker 1: In football, you can do that. The quarterback has the ball,
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  Speaker 1: and basketball Steph Curry has the ball at the end
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  Speaker 1: or Lebron or whoever. So that is one thing that
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  Speaker 1: baseball doesn't have. But that is what makes baseball distinct
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  Speaker 1: and it should stay that way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's little bit gimmicky to have the swing off or
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  Speaker 2: the golden at bat in anything other than an exhibition game,
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  Speaker 2: do you see the Mariners buying Ken a bat?
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  Speaker 1: And it could be a corner infielder, it could be
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  Speaker 1: an outfielder, But they need more offense. Now their rotation
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  Speaker 1: has stabilized some. It's been a little bit more rocky
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  Speaker 1: than they anticipated, but I would expect that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to count that rotation and their bullpen to be good.
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  Speaker 1: What they want still is more offense. And they're an
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  Speaker 1: interesting team. They're a team that is right in the
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  Speaker 1: thick of the wildcard race. I want to see them
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  Speaker 1: put themselves in a position where they can get over
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  Speaker 1: the top here. They've been close a couple of times,
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  Speaker 1: right they made the playoffs. The one year I expect
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto, their president of Baseball Operations, and Justin Hollander
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  Speaker 1: their GM, to be active. So we would probably see
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners doing at least one thing before the deadline.
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  Speaker 2: And Ken, this is a team in the Mariners that
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  Speaker 2: we always knew had great starting pitching, but now it
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  Speaker 2: seems like the offense is finally catching up. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is this the year to really I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: Jerry to Poto always goes for it, but is this
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  Speaker 2: the year to really go for it when it seems
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  Speaker 2: like it's the most complete team they've had in recent memory.
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with that, Alana. Now, the idea of
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  Speaker 1: really going for it is problematic this year because it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's going to be a great group
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  Speaker 1: of players available, so there's only so much perhaps a
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  Speaker 1: team can do. But generally speaking, we always see a
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  Speaker 1: surprise or two at the deadline. Players that we don't
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  Speaker 1: expect to become available suddenly get traded. We've already seen one.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Baker from the Orioles. No one really thought he
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  Speaker 1: was going to be traded. I know he's not that prominent,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the idea. So things can happen and maybe
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  Speaker 1: Depoto or Aj Preler or Dave Dombrowski or one of
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  Speaker 1: these more aggressive, creative heads of baseball operations will do
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  Speaker 1: something big.
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  Speaker 2: the Foul Territory now where he has a question for you, Ken.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: He wants to know who is more likely to receive
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: a qualifying offer from the d Backs. Is Zach gallan
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Auhenio Suarez? Is Josh Naylor a player who could receive
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: a qualifying offer?
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Jack, this is a good question, and I'll tell you why,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: and Jack knows why it's a good question. I'm telling
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the viewers that this is intelligently asked because of this,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So the Dotamonbacks when they weigh what they're going to
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: do with the deadline, if they decide to sell, and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: they have not made that decision, they do not want
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to be sellers. Mike Caseon has been very clear about that.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: But if they do, you have to weigh the return
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that you're going to get into trade versus the draft
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: pick compensation you might get if the player rejects a
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: qualifying offer. Frankly, I would give all three of those
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: guys qualifying offers, and Merrill Kelly as well, because you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: protect yourself as far as draft pick compensation, and any
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: one of those guys I would want back on a
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: one year, twenty two or twenty three million dollar deal.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: It might be a little much for Nailer. I guess
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: in particular, first, Baseman is not going to get that
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: much on a multi year in the free agent market,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: most likely a free agent like him. But at the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: same time, teams generally operate under the premise no amount
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: of money, well, a certain amount might be bad, but
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: no amount of money is that bad For one year.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: It lowers your length of time in commitment, and you're
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: just paying for that one year and you're getting a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: really good player. So I would think that they would
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: give all four qualifying offers. That's what I would do.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure they are thinking along the same lines,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: So for the Diamondbacks. The next question is for the Phillies.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: The two teams that faced off against one another not
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: that long ago in the postseason. This is from Matt
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Frye from our chat BCC group. Hey, Ken, what's the
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: move for the Phillies at the deadline that puts them
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: over the top.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: What do they need to move the needle?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Matt, I don't know that it's one move. I would
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: expect they're going to be active for multiple relievers and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: they need a big one. There's no question about that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Alvarado's coming back in August, but he's not going to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: be eligible for the postseason after getting a ped suspension.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: They are a team that would be in the mix
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: for all of those controllable relievers in the Ales Central
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: we were talking about Classe and Jax and Duran. David
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Bednar would be another possibility for them. Any reliever out
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: there is someone that they're going to look at. There's
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: also been talk with them of an outfielder, and it
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: could be someone from their own system. Justin Crawford is
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: someone getting a lot of mentioned. Carl Crawford's son, But
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: ideally it would be someone a little bit more proven,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: maybe a center fielder that would enable them to move
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Marsh to left at certain times. I see them being
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: quite active. Dave Dombrowski knows that this team's window does
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: not go on forever. Schwarber and Real mutto free agents
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: after this year. They probably will try to resign both.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Then They've got a lot of money coming off the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: books after twenty six. So they are an interesting team
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and an interesting place, and I do expect them to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: be aggressive and active.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I agree especially with that GM and I love obviously
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Rob Thompson too.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I love that team. I love the Phillies. Love the Phillies,
• 19:07
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• 19:09
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• 20:23
  Speaker 3: All right, Ken, who's your hero of the week? Dude
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of the week, if you will.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's Kyle Schwarber. Now Alta. I got a call from
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: my friend Harold Reynolds this morning who said, you can't
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: give a guy All Star Game MVP for hitting three
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: home runs off a batting practice pitcher. I understand what
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he's saying, and Kyle Schwarber was zero for two in
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the game, but this guy has a clutch dean like
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: no other. And I quoted a few players as saying
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that in my story. Logan Web said, every time I
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: see this guy. I just think, dude, you are a
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: cool dude. And it is that way with Kyle Schwarber.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That's who he is. Three hundred and fourteen career homers
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in the regular season. Now, well he has a chance
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: for five hundred. He's only thirty two, Kyle Schwarber.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Due to the week, all right, I am going to
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: quickly make a change here, I'm throwing a curveball. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: still believe that the Dude of the Week is Major
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: League Baseball for bringing back the team jerseys. I love
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the fact that each player is wearing their respective jersey.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And I also want to compliment Major League Baseball and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Rob Manfred for the swing off. I think that was
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: really fun. We talked about it at the top of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the show. Players got into it in an exhibition game,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a meaningless game actually ended with a victor.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: My other Dude of the Week is Dino Eble, the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: batting practice pitcher whose arm is probably going to fall off,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: not only for you know, waving guys in with the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers as their third base coach, but he
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: must be tired in terms of pitching and did it
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: really really good job for the National League. He is
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: my due of the week for a variety of reasons. Okay,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: time now for the John Fisher dork of the week.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Who do you have? Ken?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know who exactly made this decision, so I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: can't identify the perpetrator in particular, but the dork of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the week is the body or the group of people,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: or the single person that ruled Brent Rooker out of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the first round of the home run derby for a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: home run that was point ninety six of an inch
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: less than Cal Raley's best shot. They tied with seventeen
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: home runs each in the first round, and then each
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: hit a four hundred and seventy foot home run, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: they determined that Raleigh's home run was zero point ninety
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: six less than one inch longer. I want to shore
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: a quote from JJ Cooper of Baseball America and he's
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: on our network as well. He says, m there's pretty
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: much a zero chance the margin of error on the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: tracking system can accurately measure a difference of an inch
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in distance on a pair of balls that traveled four
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy feet. JJ went on to say, if
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: this was the rule, if this was what was established
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and agreed upon problem. That's what they decided. But then
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: this tweet or post or quote I should say, from
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Brent Rooker to Susan Sluster of the San Francisco Chronicle.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe if they have it to the decimal point,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: they should display that during the derby and not wait
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: till everyone's done to bring out the information that might
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: be helpful. And I know what Brent's saying. It sounded
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like this was decided after the fact. There are a
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: million dollars at stake here. Now, it was only the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: first round, but cal Raley went on to win and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: won a million dollars. Brent Rooker, had he beaten cal
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Raley in the first round, might have been the guy
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to get a million. I thought this should have gotten
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a lot more attention. It was quite curious to me.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So MLB, whoever made that call broke of the week?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dallas Brayden, of course, who covers the athletics,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: none too pleased about how it was so so so close. Rightfully, So, okay,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: mine is my friend, my former colleague, everybody's favorite lunatic,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Chris Russo.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I put Timmy on FaceTime. Timny, we have tell that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: people here that the GOP clubs are yours and your.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Father who pettipon wys it taken out of the airports.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: I get to your clubs the next day and I
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: get out of it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't let me take the clubs out of paintball.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Here's no answer.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: It's protocol, sir.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I am not interested. Did you get arrested?
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Almost the cops came, I said, calm down.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I love the fact that he told the cops at
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: London Heathrow Airport that he's going to be okay, told
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the cops to calm down. This is Russo, who I adore,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of course, having a meltdown. On ESPN's first take on
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: what am I mad about? He went to Europe over
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the break, apparently, and I guess there was some travel snaffoos.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: His clubs got lost. He was playing some of the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: courses in Scotland or London or England or wherever the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: heck he went, and he couldn't get the clubs off
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the plane. Had an absolute meltdown.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: And there you have it. And this is a man who.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Is obsessed, obsessed with travel patterns anytime I would take
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a flight. He wanted to know what airport. I was
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: coming out of what the flight was, the size of
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the plane, who was flying, what seat, window, aisle? He
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: has them all memorized. Oh my god, you do not
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: want to get on Chris Russo's bad side when it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: comes to travel. All right, for those of you still
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: with us, hello, as we continue here on affair territory
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: with Ken Rosenthal. So what is this I'm hearing Ken
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: about Kyle Tucker to Tampa Bay. Tell me more.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: It's a note I wrote in the Athletic today, my
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: notes column, and it wasn't the first item. It was
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: more speculative than anything else. But here was the logic
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: behind it, if you want to call it logical. Kyle
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Tucker is from Tampa. The Rays are in the process
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of getting sold to Jacksonville developer who is going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: buy the team from one point seven billion, and presumably
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: we'll have the money to run the team. Now, what
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: is the best move a new owner could make, presuming
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: he is confirmed and approved by the off season. The
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: best move he can make would be to bring a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: guy like Kyle Tucker home. Now, Kyle Tucker is likely
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to get I don't know, four hundred million, five hundred
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: million in free agency. The Rays offered Freddie Freeman about
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty a couple of years ago, but
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is going to get three times that. So
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting the Rays to be a player for
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. I just think it would be a really
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: cool move if a new owner could come in and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: pull something like that off. Can you imagine it would
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: kind of shock the baseball world. The Rays are going
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: back to the Trap next year, that is the expectation.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: And once they're sold, the expectation as well is that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: they're going to relocate, possibly to Tampa. That would be
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the favorite in the clubhouse. In a new ballpark. Well,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: here's your centerpiece for a new ballpark going forward. It
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: would take a few years, of course, but if you're
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: signing Kyle Tucker, you're signing him for more than a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: few years. So that was my theory all on it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It's just a theory. It's just speculation. It's not inside information.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm adding up too and two and trying to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: get four.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, that up two and two
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and two and two and two and two and two
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: and keep Kyle Tucker and give him the five hundred
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: million that you think he's going to warrant on that
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: free agent market.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: They need to, but I don't know that they will.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And the Cubs are a team with what they call
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: clean books going forward. They've only one or two players
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: signed even beyond twenty six if I'm not mistaken. So
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: they have the ability to do it. The question is
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: whether the Ricketts ownership has the will to do it,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and that's something that is an open question because we
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: have seen that they have not been willing to kind
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of get into that kind of contractual situation. They were
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the team that finished fourth on Alex Reregman, a player
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that they really could have used, and they were a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: team that, yes, they paid one hundred and seventy seven
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: million for Dansby Swanson, but they're not a club that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: steps out and operates the way a team in its
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: market market size should. So my expectation, if I had
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to guess right now, is that Kyle Tucker is not
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a Chicago Cub next year. He's more likely to be
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Philly or be with some other team than
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the Cubs.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Holy cow, there's a lot of folks in our chat
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: right now, specifically Mike G that's saying that you're breaking
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: his heart right before a nice weekend homestand to start
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the second half. Let me ask you this, though kind
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of Cubs related, Boston Red Sox are about to find
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: out what they're made of. Ken they have the Cubs,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: they have the Phillies and the Dodgers. I mean, these
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: are three massive series. How do you think this plays out.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: We're gonna find out a lot. I don't know the answer.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And their schedule is the toughest of any teams going forward.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I saw a chart on that the other day. I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: am in Chicago for that series this weekend Fox Game
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: on Saturday night. But you're right, the Red Sox are
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: going to be tested over the next ten days or
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: so and we're going to see a little bit of
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a clearer picture of exactly who they are now. Bregman
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is back and that's a good thing for them. That
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: should help them. They need to keep pitching the way
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: they have. That's been the key to this. It's not
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: just Crochet right now, it's BeO and Giolito. So without
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Hunter Dobbins, who's out now, they're gonna have to another starter.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: We've discussed this and they're gonna have to keep pitching
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: well a better defense. Raphaela looks like he might be
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a star, and the other kids are quite impressive as well,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: so it's going to be an interesting test. They're a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: talented team. They need to do some things at the deadline,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: no question, but I am eager to see the Red
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Sox play. That's the rest of the season, all.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Right, Ken and aj Prasinski at a game together over
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the course of the weekend in Chicago. God speed to you,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal and Ken Rosenthal will be back with the
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: fresh new episode of Fair Territory on Monday. We are
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: done for today. Foul Territory is next. Scott bron and
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