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Laura Aversano - The Divine Nature of Plants · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science, and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: Destination unlimited. Is it possible for humans to communicate with plants?
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Speaker 1: What would plants share with us? And how might this
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Speaker 1: contribute to our personal healing? Joining me again on Destination
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Speaker 1: Unlimited this week, Laura Aversano shares her story of awakening
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Speaker 1: to the divine powers of plant spirits and the elemental
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Speaker 1: world of nature where plants are intelligent being. Laura Aversano
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Speaker 1: is a medical and spiritual intuitive and ancestral impath Descended
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Speaker 1: from an ancient lineage of Sicilian adepts and seers. She's
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Speaker 1: been communicating with the spirit world since childhood. She has
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Speaker 1: trained in plant medicine and shamanism, from various indigenous traditions,
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Speaker 1: and in many modes of healing. Her website is Laura
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Speaker 1: Aversano dot com, and she joins me this week to
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Speaker 1: share her path and book, The Divine Nature of Plants,
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Speaker 1: A Medical Intuitive's Guide to Plant spirit medicine. Please join
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Speaker 1: me in welcoming back to Destination Unlimited, Laura Aversana, Welcome back, Laura.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm very excited to.
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Speaker 1: Be here, Laura, for our listeners meeting you for the
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Speaker 1: first time. Please share your path and how your intuitive
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Speaker 1: and healing path opened.
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Speaker 2: Sure. Absolutely. I grew up in a family of seers.
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Speaker 2: It is a part of my Sicilian lineage and heritage.
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Speaker 2: And when I was young, I had the ability to
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Speaker 2: speak and see beings beyond the veil, which I ascertained
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Speaker 2: were real, just like you and I, just like my
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Speaker 2: family was. And my gifts grew over time and culminated
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Speaker 2: in a healing crisis at age nineteen, which expanded and
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Speaker 2: augmented those abilities, and I started training in energy medicine
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Speaker 2: and various healing modalities and it kind of took off
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Speaker 2: from there.
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Speaker 1: Wonderful. What do you offer your clients in your practice?
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Speaker 2: A myriad of things you know? Interestingly enough, my practice
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Speaker 2: has grown for almost thirty years through referral, and most
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Speaker 2: of my clients tend to refer to me as either
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Speaker 2: a medical intuitive, a medicine woman, a shaman. It's a
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Speaker 2: pleasure of of ways that I hold space. I offer
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Speaker 2: medical intuition. I offer counseling and development. I offer communication
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Speaker 2: with pets, communication with those who are in comas or unconscious.
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Speaker 2: I offer nutritional, energetic counseling. I used to offer hands
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Speaker 2: on work for plant spirit medicine work. Again, I think
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Speaker 2: the list kind of can go on and on.
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Speaker 1: And one of the things that I remember you talking
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Speaker 1: about was ancestral healing. Do you still do that?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? That was the one thing I just remembered as
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Speaker 2: you said that, I forgot to mention, thank you.
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Speaker 1: And tell us a little bit about that.
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Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely so. Encoded in our cellular memory is ancestral DNA.
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Speaker 2: It's a field called epigenetics. It's a study of how
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Speaker 2: gene expression is altered through trauma, ancestral environments, emotions, thoughts,
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Speaker 2: and various other factors that literally express themselves through our health,
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Speaker 2: through our perspectives, through the ways in which we see
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Speaker 2: the world, through our psychic connection with the divine, and
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Speaker 2: through our spiritual let's say, in spiritual genetics is what
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Speaker 2: I like to refer to it as and many times
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Speaker 2: those ancestors are still working to resolve their challenges beyond
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Speaker 2: the veil. And when that happens, it can influence and
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Speaker 2: impact our lives in many ways. And when somebody calls
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Speaker 2: me to work with ancestral healing, I look at the
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Speaker 2: challenges that they are presenting me with, and then I
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Speaker 2: track beyond the veil their ancestors with similar challenges and
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Speaker 2: try to see where the patterns or miasms might be stuck,
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Speaker 2: might be holding, might be influencing and or attaching, and
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Speaker 2: do my best to hold space and offer tools to
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Speaker 2: help them unwind.
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Speaker 1: Now today we're going to be discussing your new book,
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Speaker 1: The Divine Nature of Plants, a Medical Intuitive's Guide to
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Speaker 1: Plant Spirit Medicine. But before we do that, the last
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Speaker 1: time you were on, we discussed your book The Light
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Speaker 1: of God, Divine Locutions on evil, Karma, reincarnation and healing.
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Speaker 1: What inspired that book and what do you share with readers?
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Speaker 2: Sure? So that book what I was inspired by the
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Speaker 2: events of nine to eleven, Actually before they happened, I remember, Gosh,
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Speaker 2: thank you for reminding me of the story. Actually I
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Speaker 2: remember it was I think a year prior to the
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Speaker 2: events of nine to eleven that in prayer, spirit guided
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Speaker 2: me to write a book on good and evil, and
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Speaker 2: I was given the title of the Light of God,
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Speaker 2: and there seemed to be a rush to write that
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Speaker 2: book and to hold space for those words to come through.
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Speaker 2: I did not know what I was getting myself into
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Speaker 2: in terms of what would come through me, and I
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Speaker 2: just remember being so hurried and everything seemed to be
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Speaker 2: hastily unfolding. I remember experiencing the energetic shifts in many
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Speaker 2: realms above me. I remember experiencing the energetic shifts in
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Speaker 2: clients literally a year before with their pulses, and so
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Speaker 2: many times I can see the collective happening in people's tissues,
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Speaker 2: in people's cells, around their aura, as above so below
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Speaker 2: before it happens actually in the physical realm, in this
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Speaker 2: realm that we are existing in. And up to the
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Speaker 2: time that I was finishing that book, I remember the
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Speaker 2: myriady of souls that would come through my home, and honestly,
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Speaker 2: they were traumatized. Some of them were screaming. They didn't
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Speaker 2: know what was going on, they didn't know what they
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Speaker 2: were doing. And from my understanding, other shamans were also
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Speaker 2: experiencing these energies or these beings months before or months
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Speaker 2: prior to the events of Note eleven. I even remember
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Speaker 2: running over to my mom's house when she lived here
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Speaker 2: in New York, and asking her what she felt because
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Speaker 2: the energies were so intense. And as I was getting
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Speaker 2: to that last chapter, I remember in my prayers they
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Speaker 2: kept saying, you need to finish, You need to finish,
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Speaker 2: because this book needs to help some of these souls
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Speaker 2: cross through. And I kept saying, cross from what's going
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Speaker 2: to happen, what collectively was going to happen. And I realized,
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Speaker 2: with all those souls that I kept seeing passed through
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Speaker 2: the walls of my home, that's something magnanimous and devastating
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Speaker 2: was going to take place in our world. I think
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Speaker 2: I just numbed myself from the visions because I couldn't
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Speaker 2: believe what I was seeing until it finally happened.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting how sometimes we get a message
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Speaker 1: through synchronicity and it's not necessarily what we think it's about.
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Speaker 1: And I had a calling because I was doing reiki practice,
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Speaker 1: and back in the eighties and nineties, if you wanted
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Speaker 1: to go into a hospital and do any kind of
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Speaker 1: laying on of hands, you either had to be ordained
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Speaker 1: in a faith where that was one of the sacraments,
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Speaker 1: or you needed to be a licensed massage therapist, and obviously,
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Speaker 1: with a full time job in industrial technology, I did
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Speaker 1: not have the time to go to school for two
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Speaker 1: years to become a licensed massage therapist. However, through a
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Speaker 1: wonderful series of synchronicities, I found out about the New
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Speaker 1: Seminary of New York. I attended and graduated in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety seven, and my whole intention was to be able
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Speaker 1: to go into hospitals, and they're laying out of hands,
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Speaker 1: needless to say. When nine to eleven came along, another
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Speaker 1: reason for the ordination came to fruition, and that was
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Speaker 1: I was called to be a chaplain for the Red
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Speaker 1: Cross at the Family Assistance Center that they had set
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Speaker 1: up in to work with people who were either grieving
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Speaker 1: the loss of loved ones in nine to eleven or
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Speaker 1: who were waiting word of their loved ones after nine
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Speaker 1: to eleven, and also the first responders. And it was
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Speaker 1: such wonderful work between going to my day job every
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Speaker 1: day and then every evening going to this Family Assistant
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Speaker 1: Center for a matter of months. And I'm grateful for
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Speaker 1: the fact that I had that calling for the one
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Speaker 1: reason I thought it would be, but for obviously the
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Speaker 1: other reasons unfolded and they have continued to unfold throughout
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Speaker 1: my life, and I'm grateful for that.
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Speaker 2: Wow, bless you. That's wonderful. And I think there's still
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Speaker 2: challenges in New York with doing hands down without having
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Speaker 2: that massage license.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have an active breaking practice anymore,
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Speaker 1: so I'm not familiar with it. But in any event,
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Speaker 1: the other things that have unfolded and the opportunities to
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Speaker 1: serve people in many capacities, and I'm grateful for that calling.
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Speaker 1: So thank you for sharing that. Now we just talked
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Speaker 1: about You're just new just published book, The Divine Nature
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Speaker 1: of Plants. What inspired that book?
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Speaker 2: Actually this is its third iteration. I'm happy to say.
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Speaker 2: The first book was written when I was twenty eight
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Speaker 2: years old. The first iteration and published I believe when
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Speaker 2: I was thirty or thirty one, actually was supposed to
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Speaker 2: be published right after nine to eleven, and they halted
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Speaker 2: its release because of nine to eleven. So what inspired that? Again?
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Speaker 2: In prayer, I was guided to write a book on
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Speaker 2: plant spirit slash shamanic medicine. And what inspired that for
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Speaker 2: me was my own personal healing journey and my foray
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Speaker 2: into the use and relationship with nature and plant spirit medicines.
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Speaker 1: And how did your abilities come about with plants?
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Speaker 2: Sure, so again I mentioned my healing crisis. At the
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Speaker 2: age of nineteen, I started to become increasingly empathic to
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Speaker 2: people walking by me, near me, to various illnesses and
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Speaker 2: ailments that would just rush through my body. And along
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Speaker 2: with those ailments coming through my body, or somebody would
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Speaker 2: mention a person's name, and I can tell what was
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Speaker 2: making them sick, And it could be something in the present,
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Speaker 2: something in the past, something in the spiritual realm, something
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Speaker 2: in the mental realm, something in the astral field. Along
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Speaker 2: with that, I would also hear sense or see remedies.
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Speaker 2: Some of those remedies were food based. Some of those
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Speaker 2: remedies were plants. Some of those remedies might have been
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Speaker 2: visualization or other psychological tools. But nutrition and nature really
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Speaker 2: tugged at my heartstrings. And so I would go out
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Speaker 2: and I would sit. At that time, I lived in
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Speaker 2: the country upstate, and so I would sit in nature.
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Speaker 2: I would sit with the plants, and I'd be able
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Speaker 2: to pick up a plant, just like many indigenous cultures
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Speaker 2: did before language was even used. Before formal language was used,
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Speaker 2: and I could tell exactly what the plant was used for,
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Speaker 2: what ailments, what illnesses on a physiological level, on a
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Speaker 2: psychological level, and on a spiritual level. And I would
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Speaker 2: start to take notes and write things down, and then
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Speaker 2: later on I would compare my notes to traditional books
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Speaker 2: on orbology and I was correct, and that prompted me,
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Speaker 2: along with my guidance, to write a book on plant medicine.
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Speaker 2: And then years down the road, the second iteration of
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Speaker 2: the book, published by Llewellyn, a story was added. I
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Speaker 2: thought I'd add a more personal perspective of how I
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Speaker 2: used plant spirit medicine and working with the spirits in
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Speaker 2: my own journey. Well, and now here's the third published
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Speaker 2: by Inner Traditions, which I'm very pleased. It's a beautiful book.
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Speaker 1: And when did you first recognize that plants were actually
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Speaker 1: communicating with you.
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Speaker 2: During that time when I had my healing crisis at nineteen.
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Speaker 1: And how did they speak to you?
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Speaker 2: It was more clear cognizance. It was such an echo
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Speaker 2: through every tissue, through every cell, through every story. They
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Speaker 2: told stories of illnesses through my being, they told stories
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Speaker 2: of relationships through my cells. It was one of the
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Speaker 2: most incredible experiences that I ever had. And then with
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Speaker 2: that one of the elementals, because plants come with their elementals,
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Speaker 2: their fairies, the plant spirits, and along with that there
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Speaker 2: came a spirit guy who would appear to me and
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Speaker 2: also communicate the abilities and properties of plants.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I'm a tree hugger from the
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Speaker 1: time I was a kid in the sixties, and I
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Speaker 1: always had a sense of a relationship with nature, all
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Speaker 1: forms of nature, birds and squirrels and all types of animals,
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Speaker 1: and also with trees. And I love oak trees. Something
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Speaker 1: about oak trees that just sing to me. And then
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Speaker 1: when I moved into the home that I live in
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Speaker 1: now in Queens, New York in nineteen ninety five, unbeknownst
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Speaker 1: to me, there was a bed of azaleas in the
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Speaker 1: garden and I started seeing them bloom early in spring,
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Speaker 1: and then they'd be gone in a few weeks. And
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Speaker 1: I wondered what was the nature of that, and I
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Speaker 1: researched it and I found out that's what they do.
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Speaker 1: They come, they spend three weeks or so or four
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Speaker 1: weeks here with us, and then they go to the
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Speaker 1: next iteration. And during a time of grief, a poem
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Speaker 1: came through me about the azaleas and what they represent.
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Speaker 1: I call the poem the Lesson of the Azaleas. May
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Speaker 1: share that with.
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Speaker 2: You please, I'm very excited to hear it.
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Speaker 1: They return each spring in their full glory without our hand,
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Speaker 1: intending leave in three weeks. A very short story, but
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Speaker 1: no sadness in this ending, for they grace us with
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Speaker 1: signs of summer's return, lifting our spirits with cheer, and
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Speaker 1: we'll know they'll be back and blossom again one full
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Speaker 1: turn of the wheel of the year. And the lesson
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Speaker 1: they share with beauty and grace transition is just nature's way,
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Speaker 1: a reminder we'll all return to this place and blossom
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Speaker 1: on some shining day.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that feels very jovial in my heart's face. It
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Speaker 2: was so playful and just beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah again, at a time of grief, I
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Speaker 1: was grieving the loss of my mother and that at
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Speaker 1: that time of grief, that message came through. And I
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Speaker 1: think that's one of the ways that for me personally,
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Speaker 1: the way plants speak to me. So how does someone
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Speaker 1: begin their journey with a specific plant.
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Speaker 2: I think by first and foremost going outside into nature
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Speaker 2: and just honoring that we are not the only beings
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Speaker 2: on this earth. That we are not the only creations
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Speaker 2: that have a story to tell. That the earth which
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Speaker 2: carries us, the soil which is underneath our feet, the
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Speaker 2: asphalt which may be underneath our feet, has a story,
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Speaker 2: has a lineage, has an ancestral history, and there are
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Speaker 2: narratives generations back that carry us and carry our stories
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Speaker 2: that we live in this world. And so for me,
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Speaker 2: a beginning would be just to go outside and just
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Speaker 2: for a moment, just quiet your mind, and no matter
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Speaker 2: where you are, I hope it's nature, But if not,
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Speaker 2: just hang out on the asphalts if you're in a city,
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Speaker 2: because underneath that asphalt there is still earth, and there
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Speaker 2: is still story, and just sit with it for a
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Speaker 2: while and ask it to share when it's ready what
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Speaker 2: it needs to tell you.
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Speaker 1: And for those who are not necessarily intuitive, what are
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Speaker 1: the messages? How can they hear those messages?
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Speaker 2: You know? I have many clients that will call me
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Speaker 2: and say, Laura, I can't hear like you, or may
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Speaker 2: not be able to see like you. And I don't
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Speaker 2: think it's about necessarily hearing or seeing. Sometimes it comes
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Speaker 2: through a kinesthetic feeling. It might be a twinge in
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Speaker 2: your heart. It might be a tightening or contraction in
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Speaker 2: your lungs. It might be an unwinding in various muscles.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be you know, we have all
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Speaker 2: these incredible senses, but people seem to focus on site
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Speaker 2: and sound.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that everything in the universe is
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Speaker 1: actually a form of energy. Even material things are a
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Speaker 1: manifestation of energy. So if everything is energy, we're energy.
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Speaker 1: Plants are energy, all of nature is energy. The connection
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Speaker 1: should be.
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Speaker 2: Natural, absolutely, but we've lost it, as you know, we've
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Speaker 2: truly lost it. I know nature is sad about that.
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Speaker 1: How have we lost that connection?
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Speaker 2: You know, with progress there will always be positive consequences
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Speaker 2: and negative ones. I do believe how we are increasing technology.
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Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen it literally, I've seen the
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Speaker 2: interference of the frequencies of technology challenge the animal kingdom
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Speaker 2: and the plant kingdom. When they put up a few
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Speaker 2: cell towers near my home during the pandemic, I watched
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Speaker 2: as the behavior of squirrels changed. I watched the behavior
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Speaker 2: of my fit trees shift a little bit and grow
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Speaker 2: a little differently. I watched my grass grow differently each spring.
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Speaker 2: And I know they've done studies on this, and so
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Speaker 2: I think we're not aware of what we're doing. And
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Speaker 2: I hope to God that we become aware before it's
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Speaker 2: too late.
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Speaker 1: Kid, I grew up in Brooklyn, and I grew up
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Speaker 1: in a fairly urban area, but there were still patches
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Speaker 1: of trees and gardens and plants throughout the area. And
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Speaker 1: in those days, we didn't have cell phones, and we
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Speaker 1: didn't have all the forms of digital communications that people
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Speaker 1: spend more time on now than they do with people
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Speaker 1: incarnate and the family and friends and loved ones. And
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Speaker 1: I just remember as a kid just marveling at the
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Speaker 1: season changes and the birth and life and then the
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Speaker 1: leaving of some of the annuals that would come by.
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Speaker 1: And I think maybe today we need to reinforce with
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Speaker 1: kids of the current generation and the past generation or so,
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Speaker 1: this marveling at the beauty of nature, the miracle that
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Speaker 1: nature truly is.
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Speaker 2: I completely agree as well as I think we need
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Speaker 2: to offer. It's an understanding of what it is like
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Speaker 2: to be grateful for nature's presence in our lives. I
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Speaker 2: don't think they have that. I don't think adults have
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Speaker 2: that now.
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Speaker 1: Gratitude that's something that's missing from a lot of people's lives,
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Speaker 1: being grateful for everything and anything that has blessed their lives.
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Speaker 1: And I belong to a group called Morning Gratitude, and
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Speaker 1: every day we express what we're grateful for that day,
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Speaker 1: and many times people express gratitude for nature and all
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Speaker 1: of the gifts that this world brings to us.
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Speaker 2: That's beautiful. That's beautiful. And sometimes I used to share
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Speaker 2: in classes, just when you go outside, if you're in nature,
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Speaker 2: just lean down, put your hand on the grass, and
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Speaker 2: just say thank you. It takes a minute, it takes
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Speaker 2: a second.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, My guest Laura Albrasano the new iteration of her
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Speaker 1: book The Divine Nature of Plants, a Medical Intuitive's Guide
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Speaker 1: to Plant spirit Medicine. Laura, please share with our listeners
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Speaker 1: where they can get all of your books and find
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Speaker 1: out more about you and your wonderful work.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I have a website www dot Laura Aversano
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Speaker 2: dot com. You can also find me on Facebook and
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Speaker 2: you can purchase the books wherever books are sold. My
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Speaker 2: latest books come through Inner Traditions.
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Laura Abressano.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about her book The Divine Nature of Plants,
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Speaker 1: A Medical Intuitive's Guide to Plant Spirit Medicine. So Laura,
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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about the plant spirits. What
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Speaker 1: are the plant spirits like?
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Speaker 2: You know, that's a really interesting question, Victor. I think
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Speaker 2: it's subjective for everyone. I know. In my book I
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Speaker 2: shared about the plant spirits or the elementals that avail
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Speaker 2: themselves to me. But as I share with people, especially
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Speaker 2: when I'm teaching classes on plant spirit medicine, the right
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Speaker 2: spirit will come for you or attracted to the plant's
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Speaker 2: vibration in the way that you need it most. And
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Speaker 2: it doesn't mean there might not be another elemental that
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Speaker 2: might not come another time when somebody calls in that
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Speaker 2: same plant.
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Speaker 1: And tell us, you know you had mentioned fairies. I
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Speaker 1: think divas is one of the words for some of
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Speaker 1: these elementals. What are they really like?
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Speaker 2: All right? I can tell you remember one time I
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Speaker 2: was working through grief and for dandelion. I remember dandelion
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Speaker 2: flowers were coming through my bedroom walls, along with little
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Speaker 2: children that were just running rampant trying to wipe my
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Speaker 2: tears off my face. It was the sweetest, sweetest experience
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Speaker 2: that I remember, just being blessed to have. And I've
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Speaker 2: never encountered an unkind plant elemental that I will say.
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Speaker 1: I had mentioned the azaleas in the first segment, and
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Speaker 1: whenever I see them blossopic, I have this sense that
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Speaker 1: there are these little fairies flying around them and watering
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Speaker 1: them and giving them love and bringing them up.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful. That is beautiful, that you know. In my last interview,
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Speaker 2: there was something that I shared that the medicine of
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Speaker 2: every plant and the spirit that attaches to it will
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Speaker 2: change as your vibration and your frequency changes, as well
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Speaker 2: as your needs change.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, how do they peel the plants? How do they heal?
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Speaker 2: That is such a large question. They heal first and
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Speaker 2: foremost vibrationally and via frequency. They will work effortless with
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Speaker 2: much effort, not effortlessly, with much effort to match or
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Speaker 2: balance the vibration that a person or an event, a
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Speaker 2: trauma is giving off, and so they will heal and
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Speaker 2: balance various layers of the orc field as well as
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Speaker 2: tissue to the extent that they are meant.
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Speaker 1: To, so they have different levels of healing. Yes, And
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Speaker 1: if I were to lie down on the ground and
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Speaker 1: on a particular day, and let's say I was struggling
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Speaker 1: with something emotionally, those blades of grass or the accompanying
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Speaker 1: plants or trees that are in my vicinity would tune
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Speaker 1: into that energy and yes, connect to me accordingly.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And again I think the way I see it,
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Speaker 2: even with other forms of spiritual medicine, there's a fie
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Speaker 2: will be done energy. As far as I'm concerned, they
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Speaker 2: will work to heal you in the ways that they
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Speaker 2: are supposed to or that you are meant to heal.
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Speaker 1: Do they ask permission before they start?
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Speaker 2: I believe so.
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Speaker 1: And how do we recognize that request for permission?
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Speaker 2: I don't know if many of us do, because again
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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of us have cultivated that
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Speaker 2: relationship with nature. I think that one of the ways
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Speaker 2: that we can try to recognize it to get once
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Speaker 2: we shift our way of thinking and our purview of
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Speaker 2: the world to some form of gratitude, I think we
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Speaker 2: start experiencing the world differently.
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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I know that when I want
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Speaker 1: to ground myself, I'll take my shoes and socks off
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Speaker 1: and put my feet into the grass and just relax.
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Speaker 1: And I automatically have a sense when I do that
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Speaker 1: that not only is my energy being grounded by Mother Earth,
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Speaker 1: but that the grass, blades of grass, and the plants
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Speaker 1: around me and the trees around me are acting as
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Speaker 1: a conduit for that energy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true, it's true. I remember the last class
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Speaker 2: that I taught on plant spirit medicine. I asked the students,
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Speaker 2: let's go outside. It was in a center in Westchestern,
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Speaker 2: New York. We went outside and say, I want everybody
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Speaker 2: just to sit on the ground, sit on the grass
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Speaker 2: for a little bit, and tell me what you're feeling.
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Speaker 2: And we could actually feel. And at that point, nobody
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Speaker 2: had a relationship with the actual energies of the land
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Speaker 2: around the center, but only the center itself. So we
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Speaker 2: sat and we can feel what was going on, and
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Speaker 2: everybody pretty much was in the same opinion of the
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Speaker 2: trauma that the collector was going through. We went back
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Speaker 2: inside the center, we started working with the earth and
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Speaker 2: the collective trauma that we were struggling with. I can't
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Speaker 2: remember what was going on. It was something that was
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Speaker 2: happening in the world that time. And then when we
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Speaker 2: went back outside towards the end of the class, I
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Speaker 2: asked everybody again to sit back down. After we had
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Speaker 2: worked with the collective trauma and the earth elementals and
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Speaker 2: the difference in the land, the acknowledgement, the sense of
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Speaker 2: inner peace, the happiness. Students started to laugh, They were jovial.
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Speaker 2: They could feel the grace that was emanating through the
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Speaker 2: blades of grass that was just dancing on their feet.
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Speaker 1: It was so precious, beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.
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Speaker 1: Can anyone communicate with plants? Even people who don't? I
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Speaker 1: think we sort of touched upon this in the first segment,
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Speaker 1: But even people who don't really have any intuitive gifts,
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Speaker 1: can they communicate with plants?
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Speaker 2: Can? My answer is the same, I think they can.
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Speaker 2: I think again. The first thing you have to do
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Speaker 2: is hold a plant. And even if you can't physically
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Speaker 2: hold a plant, meditate. Meditate on a plant that's calling you.
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Speaker 2: Get a journal, write things down, see what stories it
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Speaker 2: has to tell you. You might think it's all your mind,
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Speaker 2: but how do you really.
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Speaker 1: Know it's not. Now you had taught a class for
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Speaker 1: aar of New York at our last Psychic Feure. You
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Speaker 1: had graciously come in and done a presentation and the
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Speaker 1: Spring Psychic Fair, and one of the examples you had
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Speaker 1: given was there was a situation with an herb that
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Speaker 1: a person needed to heal with. Can you do you
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Speaker 1: recall that or can you share a comparable story?
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Speaker 2: Were we talking about Basil?
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Speaker 1: Basil? That's right, it was Basil.
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Speaker 2: I'm not remembering the story, but I remembering the plans. Okay,
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Speaker 2: let me think you know what I'm going to share.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to share my own personal story. Is that okay?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely?
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Speaker 2: And I actually think it's in this book. So I
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Speaker 2: remember I was working on I'm trying to remember it
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Speaker 2: was a challenge that I was having health wise. And
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Speaker 2: this is going back probably twenty years ago, and I
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Speaker 2: remember it's a little bit of a sad story. I
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Speaker 2: went to see an incredible Caribbean herbalist that is in
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Speaker 2: Lower Westchester and she had given me an herb and
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Speaker 2: she called it god Bush. And I tried to find
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Speaker 2: out what this Godbush was. I had no idea. Every
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Speaker 2: time I researched it, I just couldn't find it. And
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Speaker 2: I thought it was really odd, and I started to
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Speaker 2: make tea out of this godbush. Now, for some reason
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Speaker 2: she had said she only told me to take a
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Speaker 2: tea spoon a day. I started to have one or
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Speaker 2: two cups a day. So I was having one or
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Speaker 2: two cups of this godbush a day, and I was
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Speaker 2: feeling like I was climbing Mount Everest. I was feeling amazing.
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Speaker 2: And at the same time, I kept noticing my cat
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Speaker 2: Alexis was lying down every night on my liver, which
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Speaker 2: was a new behavior for her. And there was a
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Speaker 2: period of I'd say about ten days where something shifted
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Speaker 2: in me. There was an incredible shift on a cellular level,
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Speaker 2: and something told me to stop, like literally right away,
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Speaker 2: just to stop. So I stopped it. And then I
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Speaker 2: noticed that my kitty, Catalyxis was starting to get sick,
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Speaker 2: and she was getting sicker and sicker and sicker, and
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Speaker 2: she was healthy before that. I took her to the vet,
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Speaker 2: and she had been to the vet like a few
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Speaker 2: months prior, and he said, she just got liver cancer.
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Speaker 2: And I said, what do you mean, he goes it
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Speaker 2: just sometimes comes out of the blue, and that's interesting.
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Speaker 2: She was lying down on my liver, and he said
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Speaker 2: she doesn't have lung. And I remember calling up the
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Speaker 2: Caribbean herbalist and I said, you know that plant you
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Speaker 2: gave me, I stopped taking it and I said, I
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Speaker 2: believe that it was toxic on some level, and my
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Speaker 2: cat ended up taking that from me. She said, well,
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Speaker 2: how much did you take? I said one to two
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Speaker 2: cups a day, and there was a pause in her
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Speaker 2: voice and she said, I've never heard of anybody taking
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Speaker 2: one or two cups a day and living. Laura. I said,
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Speaker 2: but I think you told me one or two cups
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Speaker 2: a day. She said, no, I told you a teaspoon
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Speaker 2: a day. And when I looked it up, it was mistletoe.
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Speaker 2: I actually finally found it, and I had researched it
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Speaker 2: and couldn't find anything, so it was like I wasn't
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Speaker 2: meant to find out what it was, but it was
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Speaker 2: a form of missiletoe in the same genus, and she's like,
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Speaker 2: you need to get to the doctor and get all
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Speaker 2: these tests. Interestingly enough, when I advised traditional physicians, they
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Speaker 2: did the appropriate test cardiac and liver test because of
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Speaker 2: the detriment to that genus of missletoe. I was actually
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Speaker 2: perfect my cat wasn't, but I was. It did what
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Speaker 2: it needed to do, and Alexis did what she needed
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Speaker 2: to do to help me. Interesting story.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that. Let's say that you're not
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Speaker 1: you don't have a specific condition that you're dealing with.
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Speaker 1: How do you know which plants are just generally good
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Speaker 1: for you and your overall health?
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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I hear friends saying, wow, this plan
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Speaker 2: keeps popping up in my yard, or I keep walking by,
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Speaker 2: you know, the street, and I'm noticing all these dandelions,
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Speaker 2: or they just they're in a nursery and there's a
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Speaker 2: plant that draws to them. And that's when I say,
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Speaker 2: I think the plant chose you, just like when you're
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Speaker 2: in an animal shelter and the animal chooses you.
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Speaker 1: And then taking that one step further, if you have
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Speaker 1: some type of condition, how do you know which plants
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Speaker 1: will work for that condition.
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Speaker 2: Here's what I've personally found. When you find your signature plant,
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Speaker 2: whatever it's pharmacology is, I think that can plant, that
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Speaker 2: plant can work with you in a number of ways
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Speaker 2: to heal a number of maladies on many levels. I
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Speaker 2: truly think so.
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Speaker 1: And how do you know that that's the plant for.
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Speaker 2: You again for some reason, It'll keep showing up. It'll
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Speaker 2: just keep showing up in some way.
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Speaker 1: And other methods of communication that people will recognize that
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Speaker 1: in addition to the plant showing up for them.
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Speaker 2: Let me think about that, if I may for a moment,
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Speaker 2: so you know, besides showing up again, I think we
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Speaker 2: have to make a concerted effort to really truly go
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Speaker 2: sit in nature and be present and be still and again,
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Speaker 2: I'm going back to gratitude and appreciation. And I think
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Speaker 2: when we start holding that kind of space, we start
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Speaker 2: to see a tree being more than a tree or
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Speaker 2: something that's just taking up space. We start to see
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Speaker 2: the dandelion more than just a weed. We start to
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Speaker 2: understand that there is a lineage to what grows on
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Speaker 2: the earth, that we're not the only ones entitled to
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Speaker 2: be here.
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Speaker 1: Can you give us a couple of more examples of
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Speaker 1: specific plants that work on specific conditions. We had talked
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Speaker 1: about basil before, how about a couple of others.
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Speaker 2: Sure, Hawthorne is one I'm recommending as of late. Hawthorne
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Speaker 2: is incredible, especially for those struggling with panic attacks and anxiety.
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Speaker 2: It's really great to help with your heart cheat or
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Speaker 2: your heart pulse. It's incredible to work with in relationship
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Speaker 2: issues and challenges and struggles. It really for me and
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Speaker 2: for clients that I recommend it to helps balance the
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Speaker 2: masculine and feminine energy when there's self doubt, when there's
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Speaker 2: a lack of faith, when there's a lack of confidence.
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Speaker 2: So that's one that I really like to recommend again
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Speaker 2: as of late.
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Speaker 1: Another example, please.
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Speaker 2: Sure we can go back to dandelion. Dandelion is an
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Speaker 2: incredible livertana fire detox herb. It works incredibly well with
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Speaker 2: the lymphatic system. I love it for holding space for grief,
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Speaker 2: for child loss, for helping somebody to cross over or
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Speaker 2: who's stuck when they've just passed on and crossing over
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Speaker 2: from one realm into the next. It's one of my favorite.
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Speaker 1: And we both live in New York, New York City.
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Speaker 1: Is there one that's common to New York City for
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Speaker 1: New York City residents?
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Speaker 2: I don't frequent Manhattan anymore, but in my backyard, I think,
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Speaker 2: like in many I do think dandelion is a frequent one.
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Speaker 1: Interesting, I remember that song by the Rolling Stones, Dandelion
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Speaker 1: Don't Tell no Lies. Dandelion will make.
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Speaker 2: You wise, Yes, Amen, Amen.
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Speaker 1: True, absolutely, And we're talking about basil. What are the
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Speaker 1: properties of basil?
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Speaker 2: Basil interesting? I think emotionally, basil is really good for crankiness, irritability,
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Speaker 2: somebody who's a little off grounded, and it's kind of
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Speaker 2: like grounded, leaving your body, grounded, leaving your body, somebody
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Speaker 2: who's got a lot of resentments or regrets and has
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Speaker 2: trouble letting go of things.
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Speaker 1: Is there another common kitchen herb that will work, that
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Speaker 1: will work on this in this way.
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Speaker 2: Kitchen or for what I just mentioned about basil, just
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Speaker 2: for anything in general.
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Speaker 1: Anything in general.
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Speaker 2: Sure, rosemary is incredible on a physiological level for upper
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Speaker 2: respiratory elements, for phlegm that's stuck in your lungs and
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Speaker 2: other parts of the body. Rosemary is also good just
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Speaker 2: for balancing. And again for some people it can be
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Speaker 2: cooling and for others it can be warming. I think
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Speaker 2: it really helps quiet the mind.
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Laura of
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Speaker 1: Versano her book The Divine Nature of Plants, A Medical
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Speaker 1: Intuitive's Guide to Plant Spirit Medicine. Laura, do plants speak
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Speaker 1: to one another?
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Speaker 2: Yes, they do. They've done studies on that, especially if
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Speaker 2: the roots of trees and other plants just have these
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Speaker 2: exchanges and conversations underneath the soil well as well as
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Speaker 2: I do believe they're petals also just a frequency and vibration.
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Speaker 2: It's the harmonies are so estheric, and it's so beautiful
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Speaker 2: and so visually when somebody might visit a garden, it's
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Speaker 2: the oric field above the plantings amidst the trees. Is
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Speaker 2: it leaves me breathless. Honestly, it's just it's a wonder.
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Speaker 2: It's a wonder.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, how can healing with plants
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Speaker 1: impact the earth?
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Speaker 2: It can impact it greatly. It can impact it greatly. Again,
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Speaker 2: I think when we start to connect with nature, we
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Speaker 2: are moving from what I believe on a psychological level,
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Speaker 2: spiropsychological level is entitlement to gratitude and to mutual respect
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Speaker 2: and understanding that we are not the only beings of creation.
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Speaker 2: What a story to tell, and so there's an honoring
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Speaker 2: and a reciprocity that happens. And in those patterns themselves, there.
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Speaker 1: Is healing, absolutely, you know. I'm just wondering if that
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Speaker 1: energy would extend beyond the plants into all of the earth.
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Speaker 1: We've been having so much difficulty with natural occurrences right now,
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Speaker 1: natural disasters, and I'm wondering if more people would face
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Speaker 1: the earth and face the plants with gratitude every day
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Speaker 1: and appreciation that that energy, that message would be conveyed
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Speaker 1: from the plants to Gaia, to Mother Earth and perhaps
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Speaker 1: rest her a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I think it has that potential. I've seen when I've worked,
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Speaker 2: when I've gone out into the earth, and when I've
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Speaker 2: witnessed trauma from generations back, which I have, from various
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Speaker 2: wars so on and so forth. I've sat, I've prayed
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Speaker 2: and communicated, I've made offerings, I've perhaps even planted some thing,
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Speaker 2: and I've gone back then weeks later to bear witness
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Speaker 2: to the change in the shift, so that I know
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Speaker 2: that on a psychic and a spiritual level, things have changed.
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Speaker 2: And just like with human bodies, when things start to
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Speaker 2: change as above so below, on a psychic or spiritual level,
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Speaker 2: there is potential for it to shift physically, if that
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Speaker 2: is what is supposed to happen.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen any changes in plans during the current
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Speaker 1: struggling times that we have?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yep. Even with clients utilizing plant medicine, the plants
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Speaker 2: that have been their signature, plants that I've worked with
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Speaker 2: them for years, all of a sudden don't work in
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Speaker 2: the same ways or what I see it as or
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Speaker 2: how I see is they don't need those plants anymore.
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Speaker 2: Something has shifted. So plants, along with us, will evolve
46:52
Speaker 2: and will adapt to the trauma and the collective issues
46:56
Speaker 2: that are happening, and similar to the way that our
47:00
Speaker 2: vibration shifts, their frequencies will work to adopt to the
47:05
Speaker 2: changing and collective events of our world.
47:10
Speaker 1: I remember studies by a Japanese scientist who was working
47:14
Speaker 1: with water molecules, and when he would send positive, loving
47:20
Speaker 1: messages to the water, it would take on a specific
47:24
Speaker 1: shape and form the molecules with a beautiful artistic format
47:28
Speaker 1: almost and when negativity was expressed, that would also reflect
47:33
Speaker 1: in the molecules. So we're talking about the same thing
47:36
Speaker 1: with plants, aren't we.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely? Again I mentioned when they could up cell towers.
47:41
Speaker 2: During the pandemic, I noticed the behavior of the squirrels
47:44
Speaker 2: and the birds in my yard had shifted, as well
47:47
Speaker 2: as the way that my fig trees were growing that
47:51
Speaker 2: shifted as well.
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Speaker 1: I have to ask this question because I have several
47:56
Speaker 1: people in my family who are very allergic to and
48:00
Speaker 1: other plant allergies. What about people who have plant allergies?
48:05
Speaker 1: Can these be healed naturally of.
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Speaker 2: Their allergies or their other elements the allergies. Yeah, I
48:13
Speaker 2: do believe their bodies can be supported. I've worked with
48:17
Speaker 2: medicines or natural supplementation that are not plants to help
48:23
Speaker 2: people balance or overcome their allergies. So yes, I do
48:27
Speaker 2: believe that allergies can be healed. But it doesn't mean
48:32
Speaker 2: everyone's allergies can be healed. So it's it's like if
48:35
Speaker 2: you're constant, like I have this one client who lives
48:37
Speaker 2: in the midst of a forest and she has an
48:41
Speaker 2: allergy to mold, and with all the different scores that
48:44
Speaker 2: are going around in this forest, she's not getting better.
48:48
Speaker 2: So sometimes you need to take the person out of
48:50
Speaker 2: the environment because there's the microbiome of the forest is
48:56
Speaker 2: as it should be. But if your body can't handle everything,
49:04
Speaker 2: and you've tried everything, perhaps it's time for you to
49:08
Speaker 2: change your environment.
49:10
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit more about a couple of
49:12
Speaker 1: examples of your personal experience working with clients and the
49:17
Speaker 1: plants that you used or the plant essences that you used,
49:22
Speaker 1: and what they were.
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Speaker 2: For sure, thank you. I remember working with one person
49:30
Speaker 2: many many years ago, and her mother struggled with a
49:34
Speaker 2: form of dementia, and prior to that, and this was
49:38
Speaker 2: an elderly client. Prior to that, I remember that her
49:41
Speaker 2: mother was institutionalized, and that mother used to endure shock
49:48
Speaker 2: treatment therapy, which was pretty hard. And my client and
49:52
Speaker 2: the present had struggled with migraines off and on, and
49:57
Speaker 2: every time this client would speak about her migraines, I
50:01
Speaker 2: would sense and see or hear her mother's spirit behind
50:06
Speaker 2: her struggling through those shock treatments. I'm thinking it might
50:13
Speaker 2: have been rose that I recommended, and not that it
50:18
Speaker 2: was first. I had seen rose between the oric fields
50:24
Speaker 2: of both the person beyond the veil, her mom, and
50:28
Speaker 2: both my client and that rose, that beautiful pink rose
50:34
Speaker 2: seemed to mirror the vibration that was emanating from the
50:38
Speaker 2: trauma from her mom and from the uncertainty, doubt, and
50:41
Speaker 2: fear from my client. So I recommended a rose tincture
50:47
Speaker 2: or even for my client just to be around roses,
50:50
Speaker 2: to bring them into her house every week.
50:52
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. Years ago, I was teaching a
50:55
Speaker 1: weekly meditation class in Brooklyn, and one eve before anyone
51:01
Speaker 1: showed up, I was putting the chairs in place, and
51:05
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I smelled roses and I looked
51:08
Speaker 1: around the room. I looked, the windows were all closed,
51:12
Speaker 1: the air conditioning was on, and this essence of rose
51:16
Speaker 1: was just so beautiful and just took me away. What
51:20
Speaker 1: do you think that might have been?
51:23
Speaker 2: I think that was somebody from beyond the veil trying
51:25
Speaker 2: to give you a message. Yeah, yeah, I truly do.
51:29
Speaker 1: I might in retrospect when I think about it in
51:33
Speaker 1: the years past, I had a sense it might have
51:36
Speaker 1: been the essence of Mother Mary.
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Speaker 3: Hmm.
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Speaker 2: That's beautiful. And again, I think everybody has their own
51:44
Speaker 2: relationship with the elementals that come to them and the
51:48
Speaker 2: reasons that they come. So for you, more than likely
51:51
Speaker 2: it was Mother Mary. For somebody else, it could have
51:53
Speaker 2: been their great grandmother hmm.
51:55
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Can you give us one more example of a
51:59
Speaker 1: plant that you've worked with a client with?
52:02
Speaker 2: Sure? Okay. I remember a client with a neurodegenerative disorder,
52:08
Speaker 2: and I had looked into his energy field and saw
52:14
Speaker 2: the environmental stressors in this lifetime that were embedded in
52:20
Speaker 2: his cellular memory. I also had asked about his mother
52:25
Speaker 2: and father and if they also were surrounded by this
52:28
Speaker 2: one environmental toxin that I was seeing in the miasms
52:34
Speaker 2: around all of them, and he said yes, And I believe,
52:39
Speaker 2: in looking at his intestinal microbiome as well as some
52:43
Speaker 2: of the way the neurons were firing in his brain,
52:46
Speaker 2: that this chemical toxin had made an imprint via Mom
52:51
Speaker 2: and Dad. I didn't ask about the grandparents, so possibly
52:53
Speaker 2: the grandparents and came through him and contributed or in
53:00
Speaker 2: fluenced the neurododendriv disorder that he was struggling with. And
53:05
Speaker 2: so I had to kind of sit and wait because
53:07
Speaker 2: we had both masculine and feminine being that Mom and
53:11
Speaker 2: Dad were around us, and he was also struggling in
53:15
Speaker 2: his current relationship, and so I usually wait, you know,
53:20
Speaker 2: like I do with my other work, and I wait
53:22
Speaker 2: to see what comes through. And for some reason, burdock
53:27
Speaker 2: seemed to be the plant of choice in helping the
53:32
Speaker 2: emotional bodies of both my client, his mother who was
53:37
Speaker 2: still living, his father who was deceased. It matched the
53:40
Speaker 2: frequencies of the chemical toxin that I was seeing in
53:44
Speaker 2: all of them, and it helped balance all of those realms.
53:49
Speaker 1: Beautiful. What would you like readers to take away from
53:53
Speaker 1: the divine nature of plants?
53:57
Speaker 2: Over the years, I've heard people tell me that when
54:00
Speaker 2: they read the book, the energies just jump off the pages.
54:04
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate hearing that because I think the
54:09
Speaker 2: book is alive. It's alive with joy, It's alive with
54:13
Speaker 2: that gratitude that I keep mentioning. It's alive with love,
54:16
Speaker 2: it's alive with spiritual medicine. Read it and absorb it
54:22
Speaker 2: and utilize it.
54:24
Speaker 1: Wonderful, my guest, Laura Aversano her book The Divine Nature
54:29
Speaker 1: of Plants, A Medical Intuitive's Guide to Plant spirit Medicine. Laura,
54:34
Speaker 1: one more time, please share with listeners where they can
54:37
Speaker 1: get all of your wonderful books and learn more about
54:39
Speaker 1: your wonderful work.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. My website is www dot Laura Aversano dot com.
54:46
Speaker 2: You can also find me on Facebook, where I try
54:48
Speaker 2: to contribute positivity each day, and my books are published
54:53
Speaker 2: by Inner Traditions and you can buy them anywhere books
54:56
Speaker 2: are sold.
54:57
Speaker 1: And tell us a little bit more about your practice,
55:00
Speaker 1: what you offer your clients.
55:02
Speaker 2: Sure, there is a contact page on my website to
55:06
Speaker 2: get a hold of me for sessions, and if you
55:09
Speaker 2: read my website, it'll share a little bit about the
55:13
Speaker 2: various kinds of sessions I do. So most of my
55:15
Speaker 2: sessions are focused around either medical intuition ancestral work and
55:20
Speaker 2: those can be combined or plant spirit medicine.
55:23
Speaker 1: And Laura had mentioned her contributions on Facebook and other places.
55:28
Speaker 1: She is a daily contributor to AI the Edgar Casey
55:32
Speaker 1: Association of New York, and she posts her wonderful wisdom
55:36
Speaker 1: and the beautiful messages and lessons every day. And Laura,
55:40
Speaker 1: we're grateful to you for doing that every day.
55:43
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. It's my pleasure. And if
55:46
Speaker 2: I may, I also want to mention I have I've
55:48
Speaker 2: just started to enter into the world of technology a
55:51
Speaker 2: little late, and I have my first real virtual upcoming
55:55
Speaker 2: class on boundaries the end of August. And again that's
55:58
Speaker 2: something if you go on my website and contact me,
56:00
Speaker 2: I can provide all the information.
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Speaker 1: Boundaries is a very important lesson. So thank you for
56:06
Speaker 1: sharing that, and thank you for joining us today and
56:08
Speaker 1: sharing this beautiful message.
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Speaker 2: And thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.
56:12
Speaker 1: Thank you, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited.
56:16
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