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The Season with Peter Schrager: Philadelphia Eagles Director of Player Development Connor Barwin · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody? This is
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  Speaker 1: Peter Schreger. This is the Season with Peter Schreger. I
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  Speaker 1: am joined by my lovely podcast producer, slash Wingman, slash engineer,
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  Speaker 1: slash everything mister Aaron wang Kaufman, also joined by Jason
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  Speaker 1: English from the iHeartMedia team. In the house here in
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  Speaker 1: New York City on a Tuesday morning, and we're coming
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  Speaker 1: off a dramatic victory for the Cincinnati Bengals to keep
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  Speaker 1: their season alive against all odds, where Jake Browning went
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  Speaker 1: into Jacksonville as a double digit underdog and was able
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  Speaker 1: to get the best of the Jacksonville Jaguars, who were
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  Speaker 1: coming into the game with thoughts of a one seed
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  Speaker 1: and a bye and home field throughout the playoff. The
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  Speaker 1: Bengals win, they go to six and six, they're in
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  Speaker 1: last place in their division, and yet they're very much alive.
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  Speaker 1: They're the eleven seed right now. And above them are
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  Speaker 1: the Bills, who are a similar six and six, the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos a similar six and six, the Texans a seven
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  Speaker 1: and five, and then this glut of teams, Steelers, Colts, Browns,
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  Speaker 1: who are all seven and five, but all have backup
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in at the moment I see Browning and he
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  Speaker 1: was electric. He looked like he belonged out there. And
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  Speaker 1: I did a little work on Jake Browning before he
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  Speaker 1: started last week against Pittsburgh, and Aaron I could tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone I spoke to was like, oh, no, no, he's
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  Speaker 1: ready for this. We'll hear that all the time. He's
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  Speaker 1: ready for this. Jake Browning was awesome at the University
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  Speaker 1: of Washington. His sophomore season, he threw forty touchdown passes
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  Speaker 1: for the Huskies and then was finishing sixth in the
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  Speaker 1: Heisman ballot. That was in twenty sixteen. All Right plays
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  Speaker 1: a couple more years ghost un ends up in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: where he was with the Vikings for several seasons, couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get on the field. Eventually is signed by the Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: Bengals and beats out Trevor Simeon for that backup role
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  Speaker 1: to Joe Burrow. Burrow goes down, they throw Browning in.
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  Speaker 1: But the key was this past offseason. I'm told that
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  Speaker 1: Jake Browning this past offseason, knowing he was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: playing with the Cincinnati Bengals, and knowing that Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 1: and he were already developing this great relationship. He ended
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  Speaker 1: up working with Jordan Palmer, the same quarterbacks coach who
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  Speaker 1: works with Joe Burrow. Those guys got together this offseason
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  Speaker 1: and if you watched on Monday Night, I'm sorry if
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  Speaker 1: him just being too poetic or what. Jake Browning looks
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  Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow, everything about him, the throwing motion, the confidence,
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  Speaker 1: the moxie, and then we get to Good Morning Football
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  Speaker 1: on Monday and it's this great story. I think the
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  Speaker 1: stat and I might be wrong on this, but I
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  Speaker 1: think he was like either signed to a practice squad,
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  Speaker 1: cut released all this stuff twenty different times in his
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  Speaker 1: NFL career already, meaning he's been bounced from active roster
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  Speaker 1: to practice squad, to one team to another. So think
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  Speaker 1: about all those little paper cuts and to finally get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to be an NFL player, like you are
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  Speaker 1: ready to go. And when you get that opportunity, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you lose sixteen to ten to the Pittsburgh Steelers in
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  Speaker 1: that first debut and everyone says the season's over. And
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  Speaker 1: the second time, it's on Monday Night Football, you're a
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  Speaker 1: double digital underdog and you look like as you're as
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  Speaker 1: good as any NFL quarterback on the field. And get
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  Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football and we start talking about it
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  Speaker 1: and it kind of hits like Gatorade Player of the
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  Speaker 1: Year in the state of California. Okay, that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Goes University of Washington, where he starts three years for
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  Speaker 1: the Washington Huskies, a big program, a state school, a
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  Speaker 1: massive So you're the big man on campus in high school,
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  Speaker 1: you're the big man on campus in college. You get
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  Speaker 1: humbled a little bit, but you are an NFL player
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  Speaker 1: and then you get thrown into the fire and it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this guy was made for this. He is ready his
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  Speaker 1: whole life, he's been that dude. And he gets to
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  Speaker 1: go in about swagger and leadership and poise and whether
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  Speaker 1: the guys can respond. You saw those Bengals players responding
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  Speaker 1: to him. Bring all this up because we go around
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  Speaker 1: the AFC specifically, and you're looking at teams and you've
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  Speaker 1: got to it with the Dolphins, got Lamar Jackson with
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens. You've got obviously Mahomes with the Chiefs, and
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  Speaker 1: then you look at the other teams playing for the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs right now. The Jaguars, well, they're gonna be without
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, So does CJ. Bether have it to get
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  Speaker 1: him a few wins? Can c J. Bethard be that dude?
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  Speaker 1: The Steelers there without Kenny Pickett? Can Mitchell Trubisky be
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  Speaker 1: that guy? The Colts there without Anthony Richardson? Minchew's been
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  Speaker 1: an amazing story? Can he be that guy? The Browns.
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  Speaker 1: They're on to their second third quarterback in Joe Flacco.
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  Speaker 1: And then there are those two teams that we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about earlier, two teams that are sitting right above
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals. One of them's got a super Bowl winning
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in the Denver Broncos who has been there and
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  Speaker 1: done that, and a super Bowl winning coach and Sean
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  Speaker 1: Peyton who has been there and done that. And then
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  Speaker 1: there's that sweet little ten seed out of the sixteen
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  Speaker 1: teams in the AFC, a six and six team that
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  Speaker 1: nobody's talking about because everyone's written them off and they've
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  Speaker 1: got an impossible schedule up ahead. Aaron, you know who
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Talking about the Buffalo Bills. You've got
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of backup quarterbacks limping into the playoffs. The
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have Josh Allen coming off a week thirteen
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  Speaker 1: by in the Kansas City Chiefs up ahead. I am sorry,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm just banking on yesteryear or I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: the Madden cover, you can't tell me that this Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Bills team with Josh Allen and an AFC that is
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  Speaker 1: just riddled with backup quarterbacks at every position, can't make
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  Speaker 1: a run. I'm looking at the Buffalo Bills schedule right now.
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  Speaker 1: They've got the Chiefs where they've won before an arrowhead
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  Speaker 1: in the regular season. That's this weekend. Okay, next weekend
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  Speaker 1: they host the Cowboys. Following weekend they go to La
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  Speaker 1: for a Peacock NBC streaming against the Chargers. Then they
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  Speaker 1: end with the Patriots and the Dolphins. That's about as
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  Speaker 1: tough as schedule you're gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: As you're saying, the AFC's glittered with backup quarterbacks, we're
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  Speaker 2: not facing any of them, I mean, except whatever is
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  Speaker 2: happening in New England at the time. That's the only one.
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  Speaker 1: Though.
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  Speaker 2: We still have to face Mahomes, still at the face
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  Speaker 2: Dac still at to face Herbert and Tua, and so
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: I've got this Bill's Chiefs game circle. The Chiefs come
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  Speaker 1: in after a terrible loss in Lambeau and everyone can
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  Speaker 1: point to the officiating, and they did on Monday morning,
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  Speaker 1: and that was overshadowing what Jordan Love did. And also
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  Speaker 1: just how inept the Chiefs receivers look week in week out.
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  Speaker 1: We thought we broke through with Rashi Rice. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: happening this week. I'm sorry. I'm looking at this playoff picture.
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  Speaker 1: It is so wide open. And if you were to
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  Speaker 1: tell me today that the Bengals, the Bills, the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: or the Texans are going to make that playoffs instead
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  Speaker 1: of the Steelers Colton Browns, I would say possible, and
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  Speaker 1: almost like it will happen on those teams will get in.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL expanded the season to eighteen games, but they
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  Speaker 1: also expanded the playoffs to seven teams. It makes for
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  Speaker 1: these next few weeks to be just downright wild. Just
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  Speaker 1: for your knowledge, here, we're looking at this thing. We
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  Speaker 1: are now going into what week fourteen, That's what we're
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  Speaker 1: headed towards. There has been just one of the thirty
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  Speaker 1: two teams eliminated. The Carolina Panthers. Right now as we
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  Speaker 1: sit here, the two and ten Patriots have a path
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  Speaker 1: to the playoffs. The three and ten Cardinals, they have
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  Speaker 1: a path to the playoffs. Seven seeds per conference. Not
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  Speaker 1: everyone can make it, but quite a bit can. And
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  Speaker 1: I look at the Buffalo Bills with that ten seed.
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  Speaker 1: If they beat Kansas City, you better believe they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be the team de jure. And there's suddenly a
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  Speaker 1: seven and sixteam coming out of the bye, rested, ready
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  Speaker 1: to go. And if they lose, I'm not ready to
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  Speaker 1: say their season's over either. That is just how long
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  Speaker 1: this NFL campaign is, all right? That's my thought on
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  Speaker 1: the Jake Browning experience and what we've got in the AFC.
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  Speaker 1: Real quick. On the NFC, I gotta say an apology,
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  Speaker 1: and that apology goes to everybody in Los Angeles. I
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  Speaker 1: have been the biggest Rams supporter for years, since McVeigh
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  Speaker 1: got the job in twenty sixteen. I've known Sean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you listen to the podcast for several years before that.
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  Speaker 1: Dear friend, this is the first year I ever didn't
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  Speaker 1: pick the Rams to go to the playoffs. I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't think there was a chance there's just too much
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  Speaker 1: young talent the Rams. They are six and six, they
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  Speaker 1: are on the bubble. They're the first team out of
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs right now. They are winners of four straight games.
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  Speaker 1: They are red hot, and they have a game in
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore this weekend. You better believe the Rams are coming
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  Speaker 1: in with a full head of steam and they think
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  Speaker 1: they can get this thing done. Yes, Nikouah got banged
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit. I think he's gonna play. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we saw you know. Obviously, some younger players make have
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  Speaker 1: the games of their lives the last few weeks. Can
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  Speaker 1: they keep it going? We'll see. Bottom line is this
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  Speaker 1: when it gets down to the nitty gritty. I just
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  Speaker 1: talked about Josh Allen. Quarterbacks matter, and Matthew Stafford is
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  Speaker 1: playing really well, and head coaches matter, and Sean McVay
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  Speaker 1: can coach the hell out of the game. A couple
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  Speaker 1: of years back, when the Rams won the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: that year, they went into a rainy Baltimore and Odell
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  Speaker 1: Beckham had the game of his career, just making clutch
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  Speaker 1: pass and clutch catch after clutz catch late in the season,
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  Speaker 1: and the Rams were able to beat the Ravens that
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  Speaker 1: day and that set them up for a nice little
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  Speaker 1: situation in the playoffs seating wise, Can they do it again?
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  Speaker 1: Can the Rams go into Baltimore and beat the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens who are coming off of buye and are fresh.
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  Speaker 1: I love the NFL season always, but this is where
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  Speaker 1: it gets real. It's post Thanksgiving and it's when each
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  Speaker 1: game matters and we start looking at the geometry of
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  Speaker 1: it all and who's going to get in and who's
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  Speaker 1: going to be left sitting at home? The Rams. Beyond
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  Speaker 1: this game, which is obviously a tough one, you're going
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  Speaker 1: up against the NFL's you know, maybe most potent offense
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  Speaker 1: with what you've got in Baltimore. They host the Commanders,
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  Speaker 1: they host the Saints, they play the Giants, and then
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  Speaker 1: they play the Niners. There's a legit path that the
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  Speaker 1: Rams can win ten games this season. You win ten
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  Speaker 1: games the NFC, you're in. So this is when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to my apology. I didn't think they were gonna tank.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't think this was the year I left
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  Speaker 1: the Rams out of the playoffs for the first time
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  Speaker 1: ever since mcvay's been the coach. And here I am
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  Speaker 1: on a first week at December, and I'm regretting that
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  Speaker 1: decision before the season. Aaron, who were your Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: picks before?
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  Speaker 2: My see, before this season, I did Eagles Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna let you do a do over right now,
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  Speaker 1: or you can stay the same and double down Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Are you keeping with the Eagles or would.
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  Speaker 2: You change after this weekend? I think you have to
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  Speaker 2: go to San Francisco. They looked I think the first
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  Speaker 2: two drives. I was texting my friend Bennaton, who's the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles writer, and I was like, man, the Bills were
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  Speaker 2: doing more against the Eagles than the forty nine ers are.
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  Speaker 2: And then then the forty nine ers woke up and
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  Speaker 2: they were unstoppable and Debo can do anything off to
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  Speaker 2: the side, and Kittle's making catches and CMC's breaking runs
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  Speaker 2: and Ayuka is getting open, and it's like, how do
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  Speaker 2: you withstand them? I don't understand. I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: You just have to score more than that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a dumb way. That's how football works. You
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  Speaker 2: just score more than the other team. But I think
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  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers are incredible, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: they are my number one, so they would replace the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: We know they just wanted to said this beautiful SOILOQUI
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  Speaker 1: about Jake Browning, who, by the way, is the man.
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  Speaker 1: I watched this post game press conference like I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to run through a wall for Jake Browning.
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  Speaker 1: That said, you could move off from the Bengals. You
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  Speaker 1: could pick any other team right now as we head
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  Speaker 1: into Week fourteen. Who you rolling with in the AFC.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that's fair. I appreciate that, dude, because
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins just lit up another bad team and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: what do we do with that?
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  Speaker 2: And the Ravens, as good as they've been. The Mark
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  Speaker 2: Andrews loss is huge. Like Mark Andrews is the Kelsey
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  Speaker 2: for Baltimore. He is so important. So lamar say, Flowers
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  Speaker 2: looks great, although Beckham's making catches. I still am holding
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  Speaker 2: out hope that Rashad Bateman will someday live up to
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  Speaker 2: his first round draft pedigree. But the Ravens look great.
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  Speaker 2: Their defense is good. I just I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: they do it without Andrews, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore also loses in the playoffs a lot. Harbaugh won
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ten years ago, and since then, there's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of questionable playoff losses. The one of
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  Speaker 1: the Titans at home when they were the one seed,
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  Speaker 1: the trip to Buffalo where they did't show up on
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  Speaker 1: a Saturday night, and of course you go to the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots games where they had fourteen point lead in Foxborough.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I get it, and you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Yeah, I like.
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  Speaker 2: Kelsey is still an incredible player, but I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if he is head and shoulders above everyone else anymore
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  Speaker 2: in the way that like he just Pacheco looked amazing,
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  Speaker 2: like he just looked great, but our Checho and Kelsey
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  Speaker 2: enough like they the receivers, like you were saying, where
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  Speaker 2: she Rice was getting going? And then still there's just
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot that Mahomes is not that Mahomes is
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  Speaker 2: leaving on the table, but the receivers are leaving on
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  Speaker 2: the table for Mahomes. Everyone's that's the same message everyone has.
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  Speaker 2: That's nothing new, But I have yet to be Usually
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I watch a Chiefs game and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, it doesn't matter, they're down in the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter, they're gonna win, and they win and I
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  Speaker 2: have yet to have that feeling this year.
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  Speaker 1: I think I uh said it on the show a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things. One last year, we all were saying
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, and then they all figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: Like in the Super Bowl, Caadarius, Tony and Sky Moore
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  Speaker 1: were making big plays, and in the AFC Championship Game,
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Valdez Scantling had the game of his life and
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  Speaker 1: Juju was so good at some point hasn't happened yet
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  Speaker 1: for these guys. I look at zach Ertz as a
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  Speaker 1: big wild card, like where's zach Ertz gonna end up?
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  Speaker 1: Because I think he is still a very viable pass catcher.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously there's a lot of ties to Philadelphia, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously Baltimore needs a tight end. As we record this
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, zach Ertz has yet to sign, I said
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  Speaker 1: on Fox on Sunday, because I've heard that there has
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  Speaker 1: been some conversations. The Chiefs make so much sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: I can see that. I think he would be great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like they need just a pass catcher, you see.
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  Speaker 2: I know they have a lot of tight ends and
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  Speaker 2: catches stuff for them. I think Ertz would be a
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  Speaker 2: safety valve. I think is the wors you used on
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  Speaker 2: Good Morning Football today, and it's perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I chose the Chiefs and the Niners before this season.
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  Speaker 1: I will not move off the Niners. Tempted to move
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  Speaker 1: off the Chiefs, and the team I would move off
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  Speaker 1: for would actually be the Miami Dolphins. I just think
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  Speaker 1: they're so electric and last week what they did to
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  Speaker 1: watch them before the Jets, like, you cannot here's what
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  Speaker 1: you can only drive the car to the keys that
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  Speaker 1: you're given. Yeah, that makes sense. So like the schedule,
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  Speaker 1: they've played three really good teams at the times they
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  Speaker 1: played them, including the Bills, and they've lost those games.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't slight them for beating, you know, bad teams.
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  Speaker 1: The last few weeks. They've got the Titans on Monday Night.
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  Speaker 1: No one's gonna crown them for that. They've got the
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  Speaker 1: Jets the week after. No one's gonna crown them for that.
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  Speaker 1: Dallas comes to town on Christmas Eve, which is actually
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  Speaker 1: a really fun game. I'm assuming that's a Fox Burke
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  Speaker 1: cart Olsen game. That's great. And then they finish with
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens in the Bills. So we're gonna know. We'll
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  Speaker 1: know Christmas Eve, New Year's eve and we'll know January
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  Speaker 1: seventh when they play the Bills, like is this team
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  Speaker 1: for real? But until then, you're probably gonna have the
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  Speaker 1: same thoughts you have on them no matter what they do.
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  Speaker 1: But I would probably just stay with the Chiefs. I'm
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  Speaker 1: cool with my Niners Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: And it's wild because I would assume Monday morning a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people were throwing Jacksonville in there with how
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  Speaker 2: they're playing, and then obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence goes back and.
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  Speaker 2: They don't win at home, like and their defense just
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  Speaker 2: gave up.
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  Speaker 1: You name the team, I'll pick it up part like
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  Speaker 1: a carcass other than the forty nine ers right now.
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  Speaker 1: Last thing, the draft. If the draft were to day,
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots would have the second overall pick. To see
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots lose six nothing in those Patriot pat red jerseys,
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  Speaker 1: and then to see the draft order and the Patriots second,
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  Speaker 1: and then to see the Patriots playing the Steelers. Those
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  Speaker 1: are two like those are blue chip, those are like,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Us steel versus you know, the the Rockefellers, Rocke Carnegie.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: You know, like what a game that's gonna be? Steelers Patriots? Sorry,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I know Amazon. I think Amazon's a sponsor of the podcast.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I think I'm just allowed to say it, Like we
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: all looked at that as oh my god. Week fourteen
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: they gave Amazon Steelers Patriots. I don't know what happens
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: in New England over the next six weeks, but I
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: will say this, You're gonna likely draft a quarterback so
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: you have a new face of the franchise. If I
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: were to say right now, if I thought, and I
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: don't know if this, you know Simons always talks about
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the aggregators and they pull content. I don't think Bill
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Belichick's going to be the coach next year. I don't
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: know how it goes down yet. I'll get all the information.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I will work on it, but like I
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: don't see him coaching the New England Patriots next year.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, whether he walks away, whether he's fired, whether whatever,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how that is where
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: he's going to be. Does he step away, I don't know.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Let's just say from the just look at like on paper,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: if I'm saying this new quarterback, new coach. If Belichick leaves,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: that means new decision makers, meaning the front office. Either
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: if someone's elevated and is now the new GM and
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the final say so you're talking about potentially three different
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: major changes in New England, which would be such a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: title wave. But yeah, I don't think Mac Jones or
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi is the quarterback next year. I don't think
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's coaching the Patriots next year. And I don't
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: think whoever is drafting that quarterback is necessarily the same person,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: which is Belichick or people that were drafting the last
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: few draft classes. So that could be just a massive
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: change in the NFL. And I said earlier this week,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like I remember when Parcelles came and drafted Bledsoe and
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: they got new uniforms, and Crafts was a new owner
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and they got the new stadium a couple of years later,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Like that was a major c change and the Patriots
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: became the Patriots. It's been thirty years. I feel like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: there's big changes in New England, all right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Do you think that New England job is that one
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: of the assuming everything goes the way you said, where
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: they're they're gonna be taking a quarterback, Belichick's gonna be out,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a new GM, a new coach, maybe
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: a whole overhaul the front office. Is that the most
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: attractive potential coaching gig? Last week we talked about all
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the potential coaching things like I don't want.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: To speculate too much, but like you look at some
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks who could be I talked about Bryce
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Young last week. I think it's really attractive to want
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to coach Bryce Young. Maybe not as attractive as some
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: of the other names that you hear tossed around, like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is an incredible young quarterback. If you're a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: young offensive coach, or if you're even an offensive coach,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: or if you're an old time coach who's being rehired
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: or a retread like if Staley loses his job, that's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a really attractive, really attract job. But you look at
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that Patriot logo, you look at the ownership, you look
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: at the stability, you look at what the fan base is. Yeah,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I think New England would be a really intriguing job.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they hire from the outside, though,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I think that might be. That could be Mayo. Gerrod
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Mayo is the name you hear a lot, But I
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: would think that would be a really really cool job
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to have to work for the Crafts would be it
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: would be something because that's just I don't know that
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: there are resources and everything. There's stability and that fan
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: base and just the history of the franchise. It's legit.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Washington's interesting if Rom loses his job, because you're then
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: on like the upswing with new ownership and a new
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: fresh start and a new building. And that's the debate
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: for a later date. We'll get there as we go.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: But today's guest works for the Philadelphia Eagles. He used
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to play for the Houston Texans. He used to play
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: for the Eagles, used to play for the Rams, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the end of his career at the Giants, and now
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: he's doing cool stuff with the Eagles. He went from
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: just being like in the front office to now kind
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: of spreading his wings a little bit more. I think
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you're going to really like his story and you're really
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: going to like to get to know him. Our guest
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: this week on the season is Eagles front office member
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Connor Barwine. I'm excited about this week's guest. He's a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: former second round pick in the NFL who would go
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: on to have a decade of a career where he
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: was one of the better linebackers of his generation, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: then post career bounced around a little bit what I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: want to do, became the special assistant to the general
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: manager in Philadelphia, and now a couple of years after
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: doing that, Connor Barwin his title is the director of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: player Development for the Philadelphia Eagles, and he is joining
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: us today on the season with Peter Sugar. What's up, Connor?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: What's up? Peter? Thanks for having me?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love having you on. One of the main
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: reasons we're doing this and we're linking up is because
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: of this Philly Special Christmas Special of twenty twenty three.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Now you might, as listeners, have heard about this. This
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: is the brainchild of not only Connor Barwin, but of
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey. And if you're not aware of what it is, Connor,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: why don't you give us just an idea of what
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the Philly Special Christmas Special is?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So two summers ago, I was in the locker
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: room and Kelsey's you know, Kelsey and Lane were there
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: and they said, you know, maybe maybe maybe sometime we
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: should make a Christmas record and I was like, guys,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: we should do it right now.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: In the middle of the summer.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, that's a good idea.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Let's just do it right now. You Lane in Jordan
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: my life. You guys can all sing. And so I
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: called Charlie Hall from the War on Drugs and he
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I can help you guys do it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Long start short, We got together and so we put
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: out this record last year you can see, and I
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: was hoping like people would like the music and maybe
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: we would raise fifty thousand dollars to charity.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And that was it. Like when we first met.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: They were like, let's make let's make it serious and
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: make like really good music. Let's have a lot of
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: fun doing it, and then let's do something good with
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: it around the holidays.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And so I was like, oh yeah, fifty thousand.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Dollars, that'd be awesome cool going Fast Forward. People loved it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: The Eagles had a great season that helped. We obviously
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: lost in the Super Bowl, but we sold, you know,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: over twenty thousand records and we donated over one almost
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: one point three million dollars to Philadelphia organizations, and so
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Fast Forward were like, well, we should do this again.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: And now this second volume is out, which is eleven Songs.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: An original song written by Jason, and we've already doubled
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: all our sales from last year and they're still on
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: sale now.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: All right, you just kind of blew past the first part.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: You're like, Yeah, So I called Charlie Hall from The
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: War on Drugs, which is you know, if you're not familiar,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: go find them on Spotify wherever one of the most
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: popular bands of the last ten years. Like, you mustn't
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: have had a relationship with him. Are they Philly band?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're Philly band. I knew Charlie. So my background.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I have a foundation in Philly and I started in
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: twenty thirteen, and I have a show every summer, and
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: The War on Drugs played MTWB my benefits show in
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: twenty It's actually play It was twenty seventeen. It was
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: the year I left Philly. I was playing in Los Angeles.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: It was the one concert Wherever had where I wasn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: physically there, but I had booked it a whole year
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: ahead of time. So anyways, Charlie. That's how I got
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: to know Charlie and the whole band and became friends
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: with Charlie, and I just knew how connected he was
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: in the music scene in Philadelphia. This, Philly has a
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: really big music scene, a great music scene, great music history,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and he was the perfect person to call to make
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: this happen. I mean, he could put it all together.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: He has sort of the vision, and then he knew
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: all the musicians to call to help make it happen.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: So it would not have happened without Charlie All.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a really cool history with Kelsey. You
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: guys went to college together at Cincinnati and you played
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: ball with him. Obviously, now people's sexiest man, the whole thing.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: His brother's Dayton Taylor Swift, but you know Kelsey from
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: his teenage years. Talk about your friendship and kind of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the man that he's become, and how you've seen him
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: grow and mature, and the two of your friendship now
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: as you're working for the Eagles now for four years
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and he's still one of the star players.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's really cool.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I'm really happy for him and his family.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: He you know, I don't want to say he hasn't
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: changed from when he was a walk on at U See,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: because he's definitely changed and grown, but he is still
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: sort of fundamentally the core person that he was when
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I met him. This like smart, creative, articulate, extremely hard worker,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: humble like all of that, from when he was a
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: walk on at uc to getting a scholarship to winning
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: a super Bowl with the Eagles to you know, putting
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: out you know, a movie last year, to the number
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: one podcast. I mean, all all those things.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: He hasn't changed.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: But so happy for him, his family, and you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: we were working on stuff together. I mean we we
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: started a record label together to make this this record.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: We started a production company to sort of put out
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: his his document film last year. So the guy is
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: super smart, really creative, like I said, and it's been
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: it's been, you know, a pleasure for me to sort
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: of work with him and help him sort of take
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: these these ideas he has, uh in turn them into
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: something something real.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You've always been such a big thinker, but also I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: would say a renaissance man in a way. Like I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: remember when we interview you and you were on the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Texans You're always doing stuff in that community with the Eagles.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I remember there's a lot of stuff you did with
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: like the playgrounds in Philadelphia that was a big initiative
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of yours. You always seem to get it. When you
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: were a current player. Where does that come from? How
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: did you always know that this is more than just
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a sports and I'm gonna use this platform to do
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: bigger and better things.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: I mean my parents were sort of like always engaged
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: and pushed us, pushed me and my brothers to do stuff.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: You know, I love football, like I still spend all
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: my time on people, and it's the greatest. But I
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: do think doing other stuff outside of football compliments my
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: ability to sort of be good at football, even in
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: my post playing days. Like I think having sort of
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: some business stuff going on keeps my mind sort of
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: energized and creative and all of it. You know, it
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: all sort of works together and fits together. So I'm just,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to find opportunities to create things that
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: you know, people enjoy, and you know, in the end,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I think it benefits you know what I do, you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: day to day still being involved in football.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: If the listeners are like I remember, kind of you
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: were awesome, Like twenty eleven, you were a defensive Player
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of the Month in November that season, you had eleven
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and a half sacks. You played in all sixteen games,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and these were Texans teams that were going to the playoffs.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Every we were rolling back.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: That was JJ Wats's first couple of years. Brian Cushing,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Demico Ryans, and Larryl Williams, they remembers the Letterman jackets.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: That was my dumb ass and Sean Cody bringing the
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: letterman jacket we.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Went to So is that your idea? The history goes,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you guys are going up to Foxborough, it's a big
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: game against the Patriots. Patriots and Brady Daman, the whole crew,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: whole crew, they're loaded, and you guys show up in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: varsity jackets and then they kicked your ass on a
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Sunday night. If I remember what what was the is
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that the story or I haven't pretty much summed up right?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I mean it was it was.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: It was me and Sean Cody and look at like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not ashamed of the Letterman jacket. We
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: weah like we we were a connected team, like and
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: like those little things on teams are fun.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And me and Sean.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Were like, yeah, like this is like we felt like
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: a high school team, which is why we were so good.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I mean we were eleven and one.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: We would to go play them and the funny part is,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I cannot believe we convinced sixty guys to buy I
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: went back and like everybody bought their own Letterman jacket
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: and they are sweet, and so we all wore them,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: you know, because it's hot in Houston, so we need jackets.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: To go down New England. We thought we were gonna
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: whoop their ass. They whooped our ass. But yeah, it
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: was People still bring it up to remind you what
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: actually happened was we went there eleven and one.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: We lost.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we came back and I think we had to
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: win two of the last four to have the number
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: one seed, and we went one in three down the stretch,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: we lost the number one seed, had to go back
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: to New England in the playoffs and lost again. So
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: everyone talks about the Letterman jacket. But I'll uh, I
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: will say when I when I stopped playing, my wife
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: asked all my former teammates to like send little videos
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: in every single guy from Houston made a little video
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: and they like pulled out their like Letterman jacket jacket.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's At the time, it was who are
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: these pun All the talk shows They're like no, it
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was a cool memory. Something we all have together.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Oh exactly. It ended up being a cool memory there.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: We still mess around.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: About, joke about you guys were rolling and then you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: signed with the Eagles in twenty thirteen. Was that Chip
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Kelly Eagles? What team was that?
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Those Chips and Chips first year?
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: So we did, you know, everybody knows history, I think, well,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: if you don't know, Chip came for three years. The
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: first two years we won twenty games, and then the
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: third year so everything fell apart. And then I was
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: here with Doug Pearson's first year, and then I left,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: and then Doug won the Super Bowl the year after, and.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: You go to coach with play for our mutual friend
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay. I only say mutual friend. I'm at mcvay's
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: wedding and who's there across the table from me, mister
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Connor borrowing And we were hanging there, and I remember
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: when you got to LA they were like this guy,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a coach or a GM
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: or be the commissioner. I mean I remember Sean was
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: just blown away with the professional that you were.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I would have loved to win
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: a super Bowl with Eagles that year. But I am
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: so thankful that I got to go out there and
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: play with Sean, and with and Aaron and I mean Jered,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: I mean so many good guys on the team.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: This was unbelievable.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Got to know you out there, so you know, it
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: was really I mean, if you remember, we were a
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: really good team that year.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: We lost in the playoffs. Falcon Pharaoh Cooper. It's up, Pharaoh,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I hope you're doing well.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: We had two turnovers on special teams and like we
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: defensively couldn't get the ball. It was just I still
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I still say to people that was probably one of
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the best team of my ten years. That was that
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: might have been the best team. That was the best team.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: That was the best team.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I was on Saturday night playoff game. The Falcons had
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: just been to the Super Bowl, but they got back,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and it was that year that it was like everything
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: was clicking for the Rams. You're right, Pharaoh had a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: couple mistakes on special teams and then I think Julio
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: killed you guys, like you just kept on making it
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a bit, one big play after another. And that's a
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: team that no one remembers because the following year or
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: two years later they go to the super Bowl and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: then they finally win one. But like that first year,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the first McVeigh year, you were there for that run.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we were.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I mean Todd had an insane year. Todd Gurley was
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: like unstoppable. Yeah, it was at the Coliseum Saturday night.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: We lost the Falcons. Yeah, we defensively wouldn't good enough.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: But I think I think the Rams went to the
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl the following year and lost.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Was it mcgas o year? And then the next year
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl or two years.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Later lost it? They went they went back down and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: then they came back. Yeah, they lost to the Packers
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: in a playoff game of COVID. They won. But you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: were there for the start of it Giants for a year.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, I'm done, right is that in
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: my career? And then it's what now?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So then I sort of I always knew.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be close to football, just like I
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: love Like I said, I mean, I love football, but.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I always know I want to do some other stuff.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: And so how he you know, said hey when he
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: cut me, he said, hey, when you're done playing, come
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: work for me. And so I did that, and so
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I started working full time with the Eagles in twenty twenty,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: and then at the same time I went.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: To Warton and got my MBA.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, during the COVID season, you're working for the Eagles
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: in the building or remotely in the building during.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: The COVID season.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Congress, you know, credit to Roger Goodell and everybody that
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: we like, we did it during cold It was crazy.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I was in the building in twenty twenty
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: and I started business school the year after in twenty
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: twenty one.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And you're going to classes physically at Wharton at University
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah on the weekend, on the weekend.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: What's the NBA? What was it for?
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Just so I could figure out how to put out
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: a Christmas record?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Successful? You know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: So I just still imagine you were interacting with incredible
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: classmates and peers, but probably we're learning from just you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: leaders of the industry.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, It was. It was an unbelievable experience.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: So many great professors, so many good friends.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Now, it was. It was probably the hardest thing I
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: ever did in my life. It was. It was harder
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: than my rookie year it was actually yeah it was.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I mean it was so what like group projects? What
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: are we talking about? You always hear about these players
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: going back to school, and I'm like, oh, but like
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to go to Wharton. It's not like I'm getting my
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: degree on University of Phoenix dot com or something. This
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: is like the real deal. You went and got an
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: MBA from Wharton.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like like tests, I mean like microeconomic tests and
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: like accounting tests and research papers and yeah, I mean
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I think the group stuff. I thrived in the group settings,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: like I know how to work with the team and
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: what my strengths are there, Like I think I think
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I helped some of my other classmates and those sort
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: of environments. But no, it was like I don't know
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: how to do math. You know, you gotta I gotta
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: learn how to do math. So but happy I did.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I mean it's I got to get you know. Annie
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Wilson was a marketing professor. I took consumer behavior class
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: and the rollout of this record, from the art work
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: to how we put it out. I just like copied
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: everything I learned from that class into into that record.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So, uh, just those lessons, What was it you need
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to have? Because like the album cover if you're listening
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and not like the album cover almost looks like a
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Peanuts cover. It's got an animated three faces, it's my a,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Lota Kelsey and Lane Johnson. And then it's got a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Christmas tree. But there's more to just the album art.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: There's a rollout and promotion And what did you learn
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: from Andy Wilson.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Annie Wilson, I mean, it's it's combination of things.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, on the rollout you sort of which she
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: sort of taught us, was first sort of like the
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: slowly dripping out the content creating the story, the sort
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: of three tier pricing. People you know probably don't want
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: to hear about this, but how you anchor somebody interest, Yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: you anchor somebody on something. For example, we charged people
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: three things last year, and again this is all for charity,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: so I felt like it was a good thing.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: So for.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: You could buy magnets of the guys, but we said
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: they cost twenty five dollars to buy.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: It really cost us like a couple of dollars to make.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: But in your mind you're like, oh, that's worth twenty
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: five dollars. Then you charge a record, you know, the
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: final record seventy five, and so people are, all right,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: that's worth seventy five.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: And then you put a bundle together.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: People don't realize when they go to Costco and it's
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: all just bundling, and then you sort of like and
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: then we had that, we had something really expensive, and
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: then we sort of brought it together and people think like, oh,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy that because I'm saving all this money together.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: He just made it all up.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And it's all for charity. So it's great, But like
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff where it's not just all right,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: here's a vinyl record fifty dollars and here's a picture
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: of my alta on the cover. Boom go by it
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: like there's an actual process.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Well even even more so, what I was really getting
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: to is we studied this like cool framework.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: If you go to some business.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Schools, they teach you like what cool is, and this
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: is sort of like being able to pull from, you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: the most famous iconic record cover but not infringe on
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: any of sort of their ip is like if people
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: ever study Supreme, like that's what Supreme did. They stole
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: all of that from now we wouldn't say stole.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: But still inspiration.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: So like This was all.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Like inspired by the Charlie Brown Christmas, which I would
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: have never thought of unless I took that class.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: So okay, Kelsey Lane and mylotta you said that Kelsey
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: performs his own song. It's called He Pended Himself. It's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: called Santa's Night.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Did you.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Because it's not a goof This is not an Adam
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Sandler doing like goofy tunes. This is like actual Christmas carols.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And the guy's voices sound wonderful. And I saw the
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis clip. He sounds like, yeah, you know, it's beautiful,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: like it's Sunday choir. Did you know these guys could sing?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: How did it come about?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I knew.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I knew Jason could sing. I knew Jason, you know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I just I didn't know he would write a song.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I knew Jordan could sing because we're on the Mass singer.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I knew Lane. Lane is like a freakly talented person.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Just like in all ever. I think Alane, he's in
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a cabin somewhere in Oklahoma and like that's like and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: then he comes out and he can do just anything
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: he needs to do in that moment, like.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: We were, he can like like this he can like
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: do an impersonation of anybody. He can like look at
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: someone and do this like crazy like look alike. He
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: just like he'll pull things from movies from fifteen years ago.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: So like that sort of genius. But I knew, I
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: knew they all could sing. I knew Jordan Davis could
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: sing just from the draft like in my role. Now
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I'm involved in sort of the draft process, and like
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I knew the bat music background with him, and this
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: year we sort of wind up to sort of open
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: it up and get more people involved. And it was
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: really cool to have him involved in And you heard
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: his voice, it's it's unbelievable.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Well let's stop you right there, because while we have
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: you on the podcast, Connor, here is Jordan Davis's version
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of have yourself a merry little Christmas.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Here we are as a golden dame, happy golden dame.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Oh your.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Faith friends who are near to us, never near to us,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: once small through the years, we all woll to get.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: If the face.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Shine and feel self a very little Christmases.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I see Jordan Davis three hundred and forty pounds player,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: How did you know he had that voice?
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Just interviewing them and reading up on them and the
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: whole process.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, we get to.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Know you know, these guys really really well, and I think,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: you know, organizationally not to get in my role too much,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: but we believe the football season is long and hard.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: We want to embrace these guys other interests, right, because
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: think of like the great athletes you've been around, they
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: usually have something else that they're interested in. You know,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: obviously sports is the main thing, but they have something
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: some sort of creative outlet or you know, s an
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: outlet from football that they go to and sort of
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: brings them joy and confidence. And so we try to
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: you know, encourage the guys to lean in on that
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: a little bit. And like getting Jordan to lead in
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: on is sort of you know, what he likes to
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: do around music.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: In this way with this record was a really really
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: good opportunity.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: What is the role you do now because you go
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: from as system to the general manager to more of
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a I must think of it. And there's so many
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: great guys in your role around the league. But it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: not like a camp counselor of sorts. But you're the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: mentor in the building who I played the game, but
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I can also be you know, this your sounding board,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm also still deployed by the team. It's kind
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: of this weird bridge, right.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Well, so you're thinking I'm in a player engagement role
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: with different role, but but I work hand in hand
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: with player engagement and those people in those roles are awesome.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: They do exactly what you do.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: But you what you said, I you know, I'm a player,
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: a deveoloument, which is something how we started six.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Or so, So what is player development? Because I don't
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: even know that title.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a secret in Philadelphia. Yeah, so I
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: can't give you all the deed, I can't give you
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: everything we do.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean we're.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: I'm focused my focus in collaboration with the coaches, the
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: performance staff, how he everyone is I would say, sort
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: of the bottom part of our roster. Whereas if you look,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: you know, in the NFL, everybody is so focused.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: On the guys that are playing.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: And we are here obviously of course, but sort of
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: me and a group of people, well, we're sort of
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: trying to sort of build a little bit from the
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: bottom up and make sure those guys that aren't playing
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: are getting the same attention. Coaching feedback support that we give,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: you know, the forty five guys that are playing on Sunday,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: so you know when they're ready, when their opportunity comes,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: you know they're ready to step in and play and
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: take advantage of the opportunity.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You've been there since twenty twenty, so you were there
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: for the entire Jalen Hurts rise to start them. You're
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: there every day with him. He doesn't give much to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the media. He doesn't really do the look at me,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: look at me, Instagram Live, Facebook live, all that stuff.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: What kind of guy is Jalen Hurts And what have
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you seen as far as leadership qualities go.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Well, Jalen's obviously awesome.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: I think Jalen is a perfect example of what we
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: try to do, what you want everybody to do, you know,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: and that's sort of understanding sort of small gradual improvements.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: People ask me about Jalen, I say, it's just like
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: he is an example of compound interest. Like I was
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: here with him for two years and the guy and
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: nothing me. I mean, he just had it, like he
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: was just so focused that every week he got a
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: little bit better.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Every month, every month he's been here, he's.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Got a little bit better and sort of you saw
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: last year it just sort of it was going, it
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: was going, and then it went like this, and like
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: that's what happens if you can sort of have sort
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: of this short term focus. I'm getting just a little
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: bit better every day every week while having sort of
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: a long term vision of where you want to go
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: and stick to it. You know, anybody you know can
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: really it'll pay off after, you know, after some time.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: And he's a great example of that.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Last year you guys went to the Super Bowl, you
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: come up just short. This year you start off red hot.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: We're recording this after the San Francisco game. What makes
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: this team different from last year's team, because I know
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: everyone just looks at it and it's like, oh, well
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the Eagles, same squad. But every team we know in
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: every locker room is different year to year. What is
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: kind of the defining quality of this year's Well.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I think we're just getting into it, you know what
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think you said it, and there's a
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: lot of different players, different people. I mean, the cores,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: the core is still here, but I mean this is
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: the part of the season when you when you find
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: out so you know, best record in football right now.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: But now now it's like, you know, the season starts here,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: so we're excited. We got Dallas this weekend.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: One more question about the album before we let you go.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: The first album included a dramatic reciting of a Night
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: before Christmas by Meryl Reese, who's the voice, who is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: the voice of the Raid of the Eagles. And then
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: he had Zach Miller of Doctor Dog on piano and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that came out last year. This year the twenty twenty
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: three album, and like, the timing couldn't be more I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: would almost say eerie Jason and Travis Kelcey covering The
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Pogue's fairy Tale of New York. Of course, the Pogues
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: leads singer, Shane McGowan just passed away last week. Kind
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of eerie, almost poetic, and yet we've got Jason and
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Travis singing a poge song on an album that's coming
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: out the same week that the lead singer just passed away.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: It was eerie, and you know, it was really it
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: was really nice that Shane.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: This was crazy in here.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: His last public tweet was about the cup you know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: which the rewrite that Shane and Kelsey or Kelsey Jason
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: and Travis did about a sort of iconic Christmas song
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: and him sort of like supporting it, which was so cool.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: The song is it's like on top of a bunch
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: of different charts right now.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: People are loving it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it was it was really cool to get
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: his approval on that and then.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Sort of hear that he liked it before he passed.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: But I think obviously Shane's a legend, and so to
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: get that from him was incredible. And then I have
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: to say a you know, on the record, there's uh,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: you know, we have the Dradel song coming out.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Talk about it, We talk about it. I think it's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: important from my from my fellow Jewish listeners.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Howie Roseman is on the song.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: And this is Dredl Dreidl dred It's the.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Best music you've ever heard of the Dradel song.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Who performed it?
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's too many musicians to name it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Really, it's just like a live aid thing, Like everyone
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: got together and performed on this.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Every song is like live Aid. There's a whole band
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: for every song. But yeah, the Dreidl is like is Jason,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Jordan Lane and Howie doing gang.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Vocals on the whole thing, get out of here. You
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: could hear how he's voice, and then we have.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Little Dicky does a little intro. It comes out Dave Bird.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it comes out on Thursday or Wednesday night,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: first night of Hanaka. I believe it was Thursday night,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Happy earl Hanukah and uh so that's a highlight coming up.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: So it is a little Dickie rapping on it.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: He just does like an intro, but he does full intro.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: If you want to hear the full intro, you gotta
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: buy the vinyl. There's a longer.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Extended because I saw on Spotify the song is out.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: It's like a little snippet of it, but I couldn't
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: hear how he's voice on it. I got to download
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the whole big or buy the whole album.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you got to buy the vinyl so you
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: hear the whole thing, or this the little pick. He'll
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: be a little bit on the digital release on Hanikah.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: So that's a cool part. The Santa's Night thing. Everybody,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: it's unbelievable.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: So he pens he pins a Christmas Carol.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, guy, like the season ends right and it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: like cold and philler low siuper Bowl and he tells
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: the story and he's sitting there with his youngest and
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: he can't get her to stop crying. And then he
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: starts thinking about Sannah, like, man, what suck to be
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Santa on Christmas Night? Like I gotta deliver a presence
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: to everybody in one night, Like that's gotta be That's
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: no fun. And so he writes this song about how
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: it is to be Santa on Christmas Night, but but
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: correlates it to like being a football player and a
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: parent and saying it's all worth it in the end
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: because of the joy.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's like this, it's beautiful, and it is beautiful about
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the sacrifice that you guys make, you know, not only
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: in your careers, but like at the house and not
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: being around for a lot of key moments. And I'm
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: sure you've missed a million key moments, but you're doing
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it for the greater cause.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And he just for me.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: It was probably in I don't know, may I'm in
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: the locker room in the summer. He's here working out
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: in the morning. He's like, hey, Connor, I wrote a poem,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: like maybe maybe it's a.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Song, but probably not. And I'm like, all right, well,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: let me, let me, let me hear it.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: And he's literally it's just me and him sit in
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: the locker room and he's like hitting up a box
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: like to give it like the melody, and he and
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: he just sort of says it and sings it, and
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I'm and.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, are you kidding me? Dude?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: You just it was beautiful.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew right away. I was like, did you
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: just wrote like a beautiful Christmas song? I don't know
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: how you did it, but that's amazing. So people can
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: hear it now. Santa's Night, Sam.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: This Night written and performed by Jason Kelsey.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, very cool.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Connor, before we let you go, tell us more about Vera,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Why record label, and the production work that you're doing,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: because I feel like this is just the start.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's sort of again, you know, I don't
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: really know what I'm doing, just trying to figure it out.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: That's very humble when you've got the Wharton NBA, You've
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: got two hit albums like you did it all right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I just I know that I got a
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: lot to learn.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, so so you know, we had to own
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: the the you had to have a company, and so
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: we started a company, me and Kelsey Vera is my
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: daughter's name, Kelsey's first daughter's.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Name, Wyatt so Vera.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Why that's awesome.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we're working on this record, We're working on
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: a show, We're working on a movie. So there's there's
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: there's a lot sort of in the pipeline right now
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: that I'm really excited about. We'll talk about it off
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: off air because you've may.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Be able to h I definitely can help guys, everyone
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: who wants to get this A Philly Special Christmas Special
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. The Philly Special Christmas Team last year
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: raised one point two five million dollars for local Philadelphia charities. Connor,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's awesome work. But I also think you're
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: an awesome guy and a great representative of the NFL
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and for the holidays, of course, but the fact that
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you're always working and trying to expand things and give
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: players a bigger opportunity to show their talents and be
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: able to provide for charities is just cool stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Peter.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that you do an awesome job, and you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I think you sort of hit it like that's for me.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: I think I've been my whole ten years I played.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: I just appreciated how awesome the people in the NFL are.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: And you know, Jason has been one person I worked
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: with a lot, but it's it's laying to it's Jordan's,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: it's other people and just trying to help them sort
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: of like do sort of the creative things they have
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: in their mind, like bring them to fruition. So it's
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: been it's been fun for.
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  Speaker 3: Me to try to do that.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Let's sell a lot of these albums, let's help charities.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: And I look it, I'm as I'm not biased here,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: but if the Drader song becomes the hottest single in
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the country, I'm not gonna be angry about this.
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  Speaker 3: It's good. Listen. I did a lot of research listening
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: to a lot of Drado songs. Yeah, not a lot
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: of great trail songs sort of like this you call
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: it in a little bit for kids.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: This one, Like the music is just like sort of
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Bo Diddley sort of thing here that we got going
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: on is fun, like you want to dance when you
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: hear it?
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Like it? It is awesome.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I can't wait, all right, Connor Barrowing, thanks for joining
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the podcast. Man, This is awesome. Thanks peer, Connor Barwin
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: was great. Aaron, You've got a musical background. That's pretty cool.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I also have a behavioral econ background. And so
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: him talking about like price anchoring and all that, I
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: get off on all of that.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: That is, as soon as he said anchoring, I was like,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: all right, I'm in on this. He's a Wharton grad.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got it. He talks about the professor and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: her name is obviously Annie Wilson. We find out everyards.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh Andy Wilson, Like no, no, no, Annie Wilson.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: But like he kind of buried that in the day
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that like, oh, I went to Wharton and got it.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I mean for the listeners if you don't know, it's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the number one business school in the world. And I'm
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: sure he've roben elbows with hedge fund managers and people
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: who are running Spotify or whatever else. So I like diverse, interesting,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: curious guests. And I think Connor's story is so unique
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: and is different, and the fact that he's now still
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: with the Eagles, and this, what I would say, is
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: almost sounds like a shady job, like he didn't want
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to explain what he does.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: He was very coy.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: He's like, it's just similar.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I can't talk about it.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Take all that, take all that, you know, fight club
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. We're on the podcast talking about your Christmas album. Dude,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I really like Connor and I've gotten to know him
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and obviously we hope that the album
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: sells well. That's that. This is delivering results presented by
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• 53:15
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• 53:17
  Speaker 1: He also talked a bunch of smack leading up to
• 53:19
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• 53:21
  Speaker 1: best player on the field. He got my game Ball
• 53:23
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• 53:26
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• 53:28
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• 53:30
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• 53:32
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• 53:35
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