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Hour 3: Dave Day! Bartoo is with us for the whole hour! Coach Comps.. Bad Coaching Hires.. and more! · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 1: what'd you just tell me that you were looking at? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I was, well, we were talking about coach effect, right,
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  Speaker 3: and uh so I asked the system. I asked the system,
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  Speaker 3: Can you give me the worst self inflicted wound coaching higher?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Worst self inflicted?
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  Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is who hired a
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  Speaker 3: guy with a bad coach effect at his last stop?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Who was bad?
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  Speaker 4: And they hired him anyways?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean you know so so and then and then
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  Speaker 3: on top of that, not only how bad was he?
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  Speaker 2: Was?
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  Speaker 4: He worse at your program?
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  Speaker 3: So it's been and I and I just said power
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  Speaker 3: I just said power four. Yeah, just because I don't
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  Speaker 3: need a big old list. We're we're excluding G six
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  Speaker 3: out of everything. Now they're out of our playoffs and
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  Speaker 3: they're out of our rankings. Okay, but it it popped
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  Speaker 3: up six programs, and three of them are connected to
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  Speaker 3: the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start with number six.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's start with number Cycus. Now, this happened pre SEC.
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  Speaker 3: But at his last job, Mack Brown was minus one
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  Speaker 3: point nine two games coach effect, and North Carolina hired
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  Speaker 3: him anyways, and he dropped a minus one point one four,
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  Speaker 3: So he was I'm bad at Texas. I know he
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  Speaker 3: won a national title, but folks look at those last
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  Speaker 3: few years after that national title just absolutely cratered. And
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  Speaker 3: then at North Carolina he couldn't find any mojo. So
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  Speaker 3: at North Carolina he went forty three and thirty before
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  Speaker 3: finally being let go, only to have Bill Belichick replace
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  Speaker 3: him and literally drop the single worst power for coach
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  Speaker 3: effect of twenty twenty five last year, So at number six,
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  Speaker 3: self inflicted wound North Carolina going back to the bucket
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  Speaker 3: and bringing home Mac Brown to retire him in Chapel
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  Speaker 3: Hill with a underwhelming effort.
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  Speaker 1: For the Tar Heels.
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  Speaker 3: Number five, No surprise, this is sec to sec South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina going and getting Will muss Champ. Will gets fired
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  Speaker 3: from Florida and actually at Florida not too bad overall.
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  Speaker 1: He was only he had that one year he went
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  Speaker 1: eleven and two, which was crazy. They were great on defense,
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  Speaker 1: not really good on offense, but were able to Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe like Vanderbilt last year they went ten and two,
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  Speaker 1: and you said offensively they were amazing, and defensively, which
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  Speaker 1: is Clark Lee's specialty, they weren't good.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes you can get well you do that, Larry to Fedora.
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  Speaker 3: Find lightning in a bottle once every four years? Boom,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean as a fan, that's the worst thing.
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  Speaker 1: And eleven and two can skew your record even if
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  Speaker 1: you're not good for four years, like must Champion can
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  Speaker 1: make it look a lot, it can dress it up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But so his his average was minus one game a
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  Speaker 3: season Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, right, at Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and to give you some perspective, Lane for his
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  Speaker 3: entire career is plus one game.
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  Speaker 1: Dan is plus one game and that is huge.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So you're talking about a two win loss difference
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  Speaker 3: in expectations at Florida. But he was a minus one
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  Speaker 3: point eight at Florida. So South Carolina said, ah, let's
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  Speaker 3: we ride. We're gonna this back. Will's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a different guy. He was a different guy. He wasn't
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  Speaker 3: a minus one point oh eight. He was a minus
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  Speaker 3: one point six to two with a twenty seven and
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  Speaker 3: thirty two record at South Carolina. Mister Tanner, you did
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  Speaker 3: not need to take that risk. And it burned you
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  Speaker 3: on that one so much.
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  Speaker 1: Champ was twenty seven and thirty two at South Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: He followed Spurrier. Yeah, and even though it got away
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  Speaker 1: from Spurrier right at the end, he won eleven games
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  Speaker 1: three years in a row at South Carolina, which they'll
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  Speaker 1: never do again.
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  Speaker 3: And unfortunately set the bar of expectation beyond anything. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So number five was Will Muschamp. Number four a little
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  Speaker 3: boring here, Nebraska hire and Mike Riley from Oregon State.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Riley was negative coach effected at Oregon State. Nebraska
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  Speaker 3: brought him in and basically his time at Nebraska was
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  Speaker 3: equal to Will's time at South Carolina. Okay, minus one
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  Speaker 3: point seven two not very good. Got fired at eighteen
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  Speaker 3: and eighteen. Number three Mike Loxley, your favorite gay. Oh
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  Speaker 3: my gosh. So at New Mexico, this is amazing. At
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  Speaker 3: New Mexico, Maryland hired a guy. I hope everybody's sitting
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  Speaker 3: down because this will take your breath away. Mike Loxley
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  Speaker 3: was minus four point one zero games a year a
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  Speaker 3: year per year. His average at New Mexico was literally
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  Speaker 3: as bad as Bill Belichick last year, just hot garbage.
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  Speaker 3: And Maryland turns around, and here's the thing. At Maryland,
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  Speaker 3: he's minus two games a year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, he's awful. He's awful.
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  Speaker 3: He is thirty and forty two, and they keep extending
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  Speaker 3: this dude. I mean, it is bats crazy. I would
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  Speaker 3: love to know what drugs they take in Maryland because
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  Speaker 3: they are awesome, awesome.
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  Speaker 1: How long has he been there? What are they doing?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I asked what's going on in start ball
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  Speaker 1: with the football program? Which makes no sense? But what
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  Speaker 1: is Maryland doing? Now?
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  Speaker 4: There?
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  Speaker 1: They're the minus two games coach effect a year. He's
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  Speaker 1: thirty and forty two, and they're like, we'll sign you
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  Speaker 1: up again.
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  Speaker 4: He is the worst coach in the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, he is the worst coach in the Big worst
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  Speaker 3: coach in the Big not even it's not even close.
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  Speaker 3: He is unequivocally the worst coach in the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 3: These last two, number two. This one, this one, this
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  Speaker 3: one warms my heart because I remember when they hired
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  Speaker 3: this turd and I went on air in Oregon saying,
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  Speaker 3: this is a turd hire and this guy is terrible
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  Speaker 3: and they shouldn't have hired him, and Duck fans just
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  Speaker 3: lost their s I mean lost it. And he proceeded
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  Speaker 3: to post a minus point sixty four. Not terrible, right,
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  Speaker 3: but a minus point sixty four easily nigked in his
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  Speaker 3: career at Oregon and then Florida State said now, Whillie Taggart,
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  Speaker 3: why don't you come on over here, Bud, We'll take
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  Speaker 3: your garbage. And at Florida State was worse than minus
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  Speaker 3: three games a year eleven and three. And that was
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of the end in terms of my opinion
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  Speaker 3: of setting Florida State back to the Stone Ages, hiring
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  Speaker 3: a guy that was bad at South Florida, bad at Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: and even worse at Florida State. Day bar two Liven Studio.
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  Speaker 3: still got number one, all right, number one on the
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  Speaker 3: other side, all right, we are often running Dave bar
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  Speaker 3: two on the Out of Bounds show ESPN one oh
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  Speaker 3: five nine. The Zone Football season is here, which is good.
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  Speaker 3: It's Lane Kiffin's SEC media Day's week. And Greg Sankee
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  Speaker 3: wasn't real happy yesterday. You know, the league decided to
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  Speaker 3: go to nine conference games, but right, but the College
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  Speaker 3: Football Playoff did not expand in time to line up
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  Speaker 3: with that. So I think the thinking was, we'll have
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  Speaker 3: sixteen teams and and we don't.
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  Speaker 1: We have twelve teams again, and we'll see if it
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  Speaker 1: goes to sixteen, twenty or twenty four going forward. Who
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  Speaker 1: both partners. I mean, it's it's Fox and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's versus each other necessarily because I think
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  Speaker 1: Big ten? Fox and the SEC wants sixteen and the
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  Speaker 1: Big ten wants twenty four. I'm actually surprised that the
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  Speaker 1: Big ten is so adamant about twenty four. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the calendar gets real weird on twenty
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  Speaker 1: four teams, I guess they'll.
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  Speaker 3: I want it divisible eight by eight. I want everybody
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  Speaker 3: to have an equal schedule. No buys, none of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the buys drive me personally, drive me crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's necessary at all. And so if
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  Speaker 3: it's going to expand, man, I mean, it's just you
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about not taking your time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we went from two to twelve. Now we're at sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like, can we calm down and try to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, let things play out a little bit and
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  Speaker 3: see how this all works out, especially with the with
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  Speaker 3: you know, the portal and player flux and everything. It
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  Speaker 3: just I just feel like we're jumping, well, we're jumping
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  Speaker 3: the gun for money, right, jumping the money and jumping
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  Speaker 3: the gun for money and inclusion, and I just don't
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  Speaker 3: I don't like that path of just rapid fire expansion
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  Speaker 3: when one thing goes bad or not your way, which
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  Speaker 3: is you know, it doesn't it doesn't seem to be
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  Speaker 3: going anybody's way because nobody's getting enough teams in. Well,
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly, I don't need to eight and four teams in.
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  Speaker 3: It's about as fun as watching NFL playoff games with
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  Speaker 3: you know, eight and nine teams.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Bar two was finishing up the worst self
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  Speaker 1: inflicted wound by teams where they hire a bad coach
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  Speaker 1: who's already proven that he can't win.
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  Speaker 3: And then he goes and makes it work, comes and
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  Speaker 3: sets a bigger fire at your program.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So we went through two through six. Who is
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  Speaker 1: the number one worst self inflicted wound?
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  Speaker 3: Come on, we all know, right, we all know it's
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  Speaker 3: an SEC team. We knew that going into the segment,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't think we realized how bad it was.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even realize until it just spit it out
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  Speaker 3: because they went out and hired a guy that for
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  Speaker 3: his career he was minus point nine to eight games,
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  Speaker 3: minus two games a year. And that, folks, that's horrific.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that is bottom fifteenth percentile since twenty ten.
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  Speaker 3: That is a bad coach at minus two games a year.
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  Speaker 3: Yet Arkansas went out and hired Chad Morris anyways, and
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  Speaker 3: he dropped a minus four point.
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  Speaker 1: Eight five a year coach effect, coach effect, losing four
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  Speaker 1: games he shouldn't have. Yeah, he was four and twenty,
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  Speaker 1: four and twenty, so he's four and twenty at Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah overall, Okay, Levy is seven and eighteen. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So Chad Morris was four and he only lasted Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's Jesus, that's two seasons.
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  Speaker 3: But see with the thing is is minus one eight
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  Speaker 3: eight at SMU. This is a bad guy to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: I mean really really bad. I mean the only the
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  Speaker 3: only hire that was worse was Mike Loxley at Maryland.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, but it literally Arkansas. That is the single
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  Speaker 3: biggest self inflicted coaching higher wound in the last sixteen years.
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  Speaker 3: And it is just I mean even even when I
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  Speaker 3: when I asked about it, I mean, it just says,
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  Speaker 3: right here, Chad Morris is the definitive case of how
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  Speaker 3: you create a self inflicted program wound with coaching.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: He's a definitive case, you know, and there's just nobody
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  Speaker 3: like him, and thank god it was it was Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, Okay, so Chad Morris is number one worst
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  Speaker 1: self inflicted wound wound hire since twenty twenty ten. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he went four and twenty at Arkansas in two years.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what Dexter has to say. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Dancing Rabbit golf text line six oh one eight eight
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  Speaker 1: five three seven seven six. Dexter says child Chad Morris
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  Speaker 1: was style with no substance. Never understood that higher. He
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  Speaker 1: was also with no coaching. Jeez, I mean the guy
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  Speaker 1: couldn't coach, you know, and now Dabbo just hired him
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  Speaker 1: as the oc at Clemson.
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  Speaker 4: You know something, and you know something.
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  Speaker 3: To be truthful, though as a OCU, he's had some
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  Speaker 3: good years. Okay, Okay, he's a much much better play
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  Speaker 3: caller than he is a head coach. Okay, he should
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  Speaker 3: never be head coach of anything, not even your period.
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  Speaker 3: All right, it's just not good. No, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's just kids just can't be good.
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  Speaker 1: I've got one more.
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  Speaker 3: But with claims that they haven't solved the defensive problem
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  Speaker 3: was either not since Venables really no, Actually that's when
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  Speaker 3: it fell off. You look at when Venables left, the
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  Speaker 3: entire program went down.
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  Speaker 1: A full tier. He promoted from within. Yeah, you were
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  Speaker 1: funny last night at dinner.
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  Speaker 3: And Dabo is trying to I'm he's trying to justify
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  Speaker 3: that the program hasn't slipped because of his record in
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter closing it out. And I want to go,
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  Speaker 3: every FBS coach who's leading in the fourth quarter wins
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  Speaker 3: eighty eight percent of the time. Dude, you know you're
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  Speaker 3: giving us the number that everybody has. Where he has
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  Speaker 3: slipped as he has lost control of the football game.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't have good offensive defensive balance, his momentum game control.
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  Speaker 3: Prior to twenty twenty one, when he had peak momentum
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  Speaker 3: in a football game from twenty ten to twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 3: he was one and ten and one.
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  Speaker 1: Damn.
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  Speaker 4: He generated peak.
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  Speaker 3: Momentum at the level of Saban and k and Kirby
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  Speaker 3: and Ryan Day. He was absolute and he closed at
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  Speaker 3: their level two. He was absolutely super elite at generating
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  Speaker 3: and closing. But since then it is down about thirty percent,
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  Speaker 3: and so he's down a full I mean, he's he's
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  Speaker 3: gone from Dabbo running with the elites to now he
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  Speaker 3: is Dabbo with Sark and Brian Kelly and that second
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  Speaker 3: tier of head coaches.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right bar two on the out of Bounds show.
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  Speaker 1: We got about a minute before we go in our
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  Speaker 1: last segment of twenty four minutes, Scott from Philly. This
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  Speaker 1: is Scott from Philly. Hard to believe somebody is worse
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  Speaker 1: than Levy, he'll state, Okay, so there you go. Scott's
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  Speaker 1: from where we'll be to.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have a com fort Jeff either.
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  Speaker 3: I just I asked the system to give me a
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  Speaker 3: cam and just compare twenty twenty four twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 3: to all coaches G six power four, and there's really
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  Speaker 3: nothing out there that it said. Tony Sanchez is the
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  Speaker 3: closest one because both of them, both Tony and Jeff
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  Speaker 3: super struggled twenty twenty four, but they made massive improvements
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. Jeff was only a minus one
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  Speaker 3: game coach effect last year, so was Tony. Both of
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  Speaker 3: them were minus four the year before. So Charlie Wise,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is really you know, where's Tony Sanchez?
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  Speaker 1: Bar two will answer that question on Jeff Levy. All right,
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  Speaker 3: many coaching not just profiles, but projections on win losses
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  Speaker 1: So we'll hit on.
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  Speaker 3: We'll hit on goals and what we expect out of
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  Speaker 3: Auburn this year. But I think the big thing is
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  Speaker 3: when you have guys going from G six to power four,
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  Speaker 3: just take a game, game and a half off of
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  Speaker 3: your expectations right off the top, because that first year
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  Speaker 3: if your name's not Kurt Signetti.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, show, Yeah Kurt Signetti, good grief. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so twenty twenty six hot seat, I'm gonna let you right.
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  Speaker 3: And this isn't me right, this is not Dave going.
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  Speaker 3: Who do I think is on the hot seat? Went
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  Speaker 3: back to the coach effect database and said, okay, start
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: mapping out guys that should be on the hot seat
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  Speaker 3: relative to their coach effect. Okay, and I said, just
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  Speaker 3: focus on guys with experience and or three or more years.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not interested in Bill Belichick being on
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  Speaker 3: there because he was the worst coach in power for
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  Speaker 3: last year. Okay, okay, even though that puts this kind
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  Speaker 3: of that puts his foot on the first step of
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  Speaker 3: being on the hot seat.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, guy isn't there.
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  Speaker 3: So the the but the guys we and we just
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  Speaker 3: got talked about making self inflicted wounds right right, and
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  Speaker 3: one of the first guys that popped up is an
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  Speaker 3: ideal self inflicted wound scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Scott Frost was horrible at Nebraska. Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, the last ten years, Nebraska has the worst
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  Speaker 3: composite coach effect of any Power four team. The last
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  Speaker 3: ten years, Nebraska has the worst composite coach effect of
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  Speaker 3: any team. You want to talk about fans that have
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  Speaker 3: suffered the most the last ten years performing under talent,
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  Speaker 3: it is the Nebraska corn hustle. And Scott Frost was
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: absolutely in the middle of that. Yet ucf said, come
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  Speaker 3: on back, let's go try to catch that lightning in
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  Speaker 3: a bottle again in the AAC, even though we're not
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  Speaker 3: in the AAC.
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  Speaker 1: And the more anymore, we.
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  Speaker 3: Just went from the number one talent in the conference
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  Speaker 3: when you were here to the worst. Soo so Frost, right,
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  Speaker 3: we know he was bad at Nebraska. But his time
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  Speaker 3: at UCF is two bad negative coach effect years.
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  Speaker 4: Last year was minus three point three two. He was
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  Speaker 4: terrible last year.
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  Speaker 1: So when when Scott Frost was there first, they were
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  Speaker 1: in G five. Now they're in the Big twelve.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, right, and when they're there as the G five.
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  Speaker 3: This goes back to we talked about like the text,
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  Speaker 3: say and compare John David Baker Plane and the talent.
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  Speaker 3: Well at UCF, you're talking about the program that had
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  Speaker 3: the number one talent profile along with Cincinnati in that conference.
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  Speaker 3: Guess what, they won all the football games. Now they're
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  Speaker 3: both in the bottom four in talent in their conferences
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  Speaker 3: in the Big twelve, and they're losing all.
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  Speaker 1: Their football games.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it kind of goes hand in hand.
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  Speaker 3: It's really hard to punch above your talent level consistently.
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  Speaker 3: You either have to raise the talent or you have
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  Speaker 3: to be a really good head coach. Ideally you do both.
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  Speaker 3: We saw Dan raise you know, high tides raise all ships. Right,
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  Speaker 3: so we saw the recruiting with Dan come up, when
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  Speaker 3: totals came up, Lane recruiting it Ole miss comes up,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and right now, arguably they're starting the season
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  Speaker 3: a top ten recruiter.
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  Speaker 1: So Bar two has something called range bound recruiting, and
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  Speaker 1: most teams don't go up or down more than four spots,
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  Speaker 1: so they are who they are forever and ever. What
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  Speaker 1: Bartwo is referencing is when Dan walked in Mississippi State
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  Speaker 1: was around thirty seventh thirties, yeah, mid high thirties, right, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And when he left, they were a composite twenty fifth recruiter.
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  Speaker 1: That is rare that you break out of that four
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  Speaker 1: spots up or down. Dan went ten plus. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was twelve or maybe even more. But the bottom
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  Speaker 1: line is he moved up recruiting from composite thirty five
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  Speaker 1: to thirty eight to twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and then the lane took old mess from the
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  Speaker 3: high teens, low twenties, you know, into the low teens
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  Speaker 3: and right now, arguably, you know, Pete Golden should be
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  Speaker 3: expected to win ten eleven games with this talent.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, so composite recruiting where bar two. He
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  Speaker 1: said this off in our off airshow show just on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube yesterday, Ole, miss Composite recruiting is top ten if
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  Speaker 1: you count the portal and Hospitaleah.
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  Speaker 3: When you blend them both and take the best of
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  Speaker 3: the best of all that. So so I think I
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  Speaker 3: think Lane has raised the bar, and then he coached
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  Speaker 3: it up.
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  Speaker 4: Dan raised the bar, then he coached it up. Now
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  Speaker 4: now a different.
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  Speaker 3: Guy to look at is is Stoops at Kentucky. He
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  Speaker 3: raised the bar of recruiting. The recruiting is much better
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  Speaker 3: at Kentucky than it was.
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  Speaker 1: You said that they were in the high thirties, thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight to thirty ninth, and he brought them right where
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  Speaker 1: Dan was in that twenty three. Not a good head coach.
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  Speaker 3: Right, they didn't win more right, you know, he brought
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  Speaker 3: the talent in, but he wasn't good enough to elevate
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  Speaker 3: the win loss ratio with the talent, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, so that is that's something you got to
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  Speaker 3: look at there. So with Frost at UCF, totally different situation,
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  Speaker 3: same school, but the talent level relative to the schedule
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  Speaker 3: has completely been offset. But Frost coming off of his
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  Speaker 3: bad career at Nebraska, now he's starting off terrible at UCF.
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  Speaker 3: The system says that is absolutely a hot seat. Now
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  Speaker 3: the guy nobody's surprised with Dave Randa. Daved Randa has
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: been at Baylor for a while. His career coach effect
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  Speaker 3: is nearly minus one game a year. And he's been
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  Speaker 3: there for what four years? Five years? When did LSU
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  Speaker 3: win their title?
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  Speaker 1: And he left nineteen nineteen because he was he actually
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  Speaker 1: beat Kiffin and the Sugar Bowl in twenty Bowls twenty
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  Speaker 1: one with Matt Carrall or something like that. Kind of
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  Speaker 1: crazy that that happened. Yeah, So Randa's been there like
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  Speaker 1: six years. Yeah, he's on year seven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we we're talking about a guy who's averaging
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  Speaker 3: one game under replacement outage head coaching for six years.
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  Speaker 3: Usually that doesn't Usually that doesn't mean they've.
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  Speaker 1: Never won, right, I mean you know it's like perdue
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  Speaker 1: outside of Jeff Brohm, Yeah, yeah, they've been got awful. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And here's what you mentioned. Here's an interesting one.
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  Speaker 3: Here's an SEC one, the only only one from the
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  Speaker 3: SEC that popped up. And the reason it popped up
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: is last year he was minus he was almost minus
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  Speaker 3: three games. Last year just wasn't good, minus two point
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  Speaker 3: sixty nine. Now, he revamped the entire offensive staff, brought
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  Speaker 3: in Kendall Briles, brought in Randy Clements, but Shane Biemer
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  Speaker 3: for his entire career is still negative coach effect, albeit
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: it's minus point one seven, but that's basically saying he's
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  Speaker 3: just been an average coach relative to the schedule and
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  Speaker 3: talent for his entirety at South Carolina and at South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina that's good enough. And so the system saying, if
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  Speaker 3: we get another minus one and a half, minus two,
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  Speaker 3: minus two and a half, you know the tide's going
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  Speaker 3: to go out too far for him, and that just
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  Speaker 3: might be enough to really kick it over.
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  Speaker 1: And but he's got his best Mississippi State place at
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: South Carolina. Week three, they also catch South Carolina and
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  Speaker 1: Beamer with his best O C d C pairing since
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  Speaker 1: he's been there with Kendall Brows and Clayton White.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he hasn't been able to get the OC right
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: from from the get when he hired Marcus Sadersfield. That
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: was the first red flag is you don't know how
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  Speaker 3: to higher offense right there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh goodness, Grace, all right, So that was the
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  Speaker 1: hot seat.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't fun yet, that was that was the low
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  Speaker 3: end of the hot seat. Levees on it.
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  Speaker 1: But he's not. He's not on your computer algorithm of
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  Speaker 1: fault or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Your two consecutive years of negative coach effect, right right,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: and but we have positive progression.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you dead man walking? Was he dead man
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  Speaker 1: walking at minus four? No?
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  Speaker 3: He was, He wasn't awful close to it? Okay, dead
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  Speaker 3: man walking is is? Really it's minus five. And it's
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  Speaker 3: also guys that have previous experience. Okay, right, he's a rookie.
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  Speaker 3: Those guys get a little bit more of a pass there.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: But the but the but the four guys on the
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: top of it, Dion, Okay, at Colorado, one of the worst.
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  Speaker 3: His worst year was last year. He can't repeat that again.
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  Speaker 3: He needs to bounce back bad.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna get fired, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And a couple of guys, I'm not sure. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure there, Uh.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. How we'll see how committed are they really?
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  Speaker 1: I mean here, although they're poking him eight.
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  Speaker 3: Here's your soap opera with Colorado. Though, here's your soap
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: oper with Colorado. Dion hired Brendan Marion as his offensive coordinator.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Brendan Marion was head coach at Sack State last year,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: ran a really good offense for two years at unob
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Brandan wants to be head coach again.
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  Speaker 1: Who did who did Brendan Mary, Brendan Marion? Yeah? Who
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: did he coach under at UNLV?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: He had coached at are Bury Otam at UNLV and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they went nineteen and eight? Yeah? Is that something good?
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  Speaker 4: That he was great and the offense was really good.
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  Speaker 3: And then sack State hired him and then he quit
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Sack State to become the offensive.
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  Speaker 1: Coordinator at Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: But we all know that former head coaches want to
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: be head coaches again, right, So that's a lion on
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the den.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Two two male lines in the den don't live with
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  Speaker 4: each other.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work. Okay, Mario a few years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Right when he when he brought in Charlie Strong, I
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: even told him, dude, that's that is just to let
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: you know, if that guy sees that he can't become
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: a head coach again, it's going to be a problem.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: And he became a problem. He fired and we got
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: rid of the got rid of that issue quick. And
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: so I think with Colorado you have a Brandan Mary
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: that wants to be a head coach again.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: And if Dion's still weak.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Could he could he get Dion pushed out and replace
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Diona himself as a head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Did he do a good job at Sack State? It
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: is all right? Okay, so you're not you're not sure
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  Speaker 1: about this guy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know. I don't know anything about that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I just know the aspirations. Uh, and and the and
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: the goals the top three. No surprise, Locksley. I mean,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: he shouldn't. He shouldn't even be there, right, He's terrible.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Luke Fickle declined, decline, decline.
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  Speaker 1: That's Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think he's gonna bounce back this year.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 3: I do think Wisconsin's gonna bounce back this year. The
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the tough thing for Luke is, I think they just
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: brought in a new ad. And you and I both
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: know what happens when new AD's come in. They want
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: their man air quotes. I'm gonna go get my god.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I got to go get my gay. Gosh.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: That never works, it seems like uh.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: And then the obvious one, Mike Norbel just a massive collapse,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: massive guy.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: It feel like it was just a minute ago. He
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: was eleven and going to the last game and loses
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: his quarterback and they can't get it going.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Well, and we're talking about it to your collapse.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: We're looking at minus four point almost five games over
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: over the last two years. Last year was five minus
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: five point sixty seven. It was it was just wicked
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: for him last year. So the last two years have
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: actually been really, really bad. He has a four year
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: streak of negative coach effect four consecutive years.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Good grief.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: And this is after smoking it at Memphis, right, I mean,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: this guy was absolutely so what hammering at his Memphis
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: so he can, Right, it's weird.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And he went undefeated at Florida State one year.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Right, It's it's weird.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And so you got a guy that was awesome at Memphis,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: didn't you know he's not doing it at Florida State.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: A couple other guys, right, this is like a Billy
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Napier awesome at Louisiana, couldn't figure it out at Florida.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Heck, h look at Hugh.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: He was bloody awesome at Liberty, and he was really
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: good at Ole Miss. Yeah, and then and I thought
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: he was close last year. I mean that was the
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: top fifteen scoring efficiency defense. They just couldn't find the quarterback.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: They couldn't get anybody to play on the offensive side. Uh,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: and they lost a lot of close games.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Last year.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: So I guess we're going to see how time's gonna
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: tell in terms of pulling the trigger on three years
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: instead of letting it go to four. But clearly Mike
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Norvel just in the numbers, Uh, this guy is on
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: a four consecutive negative coach effects street. So Florida State
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: could open up. Yes, will we're gonna bet on that
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: over under. You gotta figure he's he's not going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: He's not going to get a fifth negative coach effect
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: here and survive. So I don't know where he needs
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: to be where Mike Norvell needs to be to be
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: positive coach effect. I should actually look him up on
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: the projections.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have their schedule. Oh no, just give
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  Speaker 4: We just said James Franklin equals Dan Mullen.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: We did, We did. Dan Mullen's twin is James Franklin,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and James Franklin's twin is Uh is Dan Mullen. Lane
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Kiffin's is Lincoln Riley. So we'll see how that looks
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: this year. Lincoln, I guess, I mean Southern cal hadn't
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: done anything amazing. I know he finished number one and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: recruiting last year in high school. He sounded like thirty
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: five guys or something. But we'll see if he can
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: get it quote unquote done in in the Big Ten
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: on the West coast. Right now, Oregon is the team
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: out there, but Bar two does not like Oregon's OC.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Will Stein left Oregon to be the head coach at
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Kentucky and Bar Two's got their new OC ranked dead
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: last in the Big Ten. And we'll see what Lincoln
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Riley does it USC and and so on.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Do you hear I'm still I'm still trying to find
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: uh this in the ACC. Do you hear well Stein's
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: quote yesterday meant.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: He is yeah, me right, why are we gonna win?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Me?
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: You know something? And he is exactly right. He is
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: exactly right. Do you know how bad his OCDC combination is?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: How bad? Be worst in the SEC? Dude?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You just hired Joe Sloan. Do you see ls Do
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: you love Joe Sloan offense?
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Last year? You see that? It was awful? Right?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: And and as DC hasn't had a good defense.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Ever?
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, ever, yes, ever, So if Kentucky wins, yes, it
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: is one on will Stein. But if he goes two
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and ten is one hundred percent on will Stein's coaching
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: staff as well, if he somehow gets that coaching staff,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Four wins, five wins, oh my gosh,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: six wins? Yeah, coach of the year, baby, look me up.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Google it. So they had the worst oc DC pairing
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: in the SEC. Yes, okay, all right, So they took
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that I guess from last year Coleman Hutzler and Jeff
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Levy Coleman. Oh he who must not be named.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: That was a bad back to back juju defense, right there?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, Well, the fact that he got brought, well,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the fact that got hired in the first place. He
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: was a special teams coach, and then you had a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: new head coach who hired a special teams coach to
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: be his DC and then brought him back for year two.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember you text me on a Saturday
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: last year about Joe Sloan, offensive coordinator at LSU. He
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: was eventually let go during the season. But anyway, what
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: was the dude's name? What was the quarterbacks name? That
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: nots Smier? Not SMI that Smier? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Josh says on the text line. But but
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: but Dan Mullen couldn't recruit. He's referencing what we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about earlier. Dan moved to Mississippi State's composite recruiting
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  Speaker 1: up about ten to twelve spots. Yeah, which doesn't happen.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Nobody moves teams state well, and he moved Florida's.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, people, you know, it's they were trying to find out,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: you know, people are trying to figure out what fell
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  Speaker 3: off the cliff at Florida, and we'll never know, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: we'll never know. And and I think it was something.
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  Speaker 3: To me, it was something internal because I looked at
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  Speaker 3: the numbers. The one thing I found in Florida that
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  Speaker 3: I've actually started tracking is the fifth week of that season,
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  Speaker 3: the fault starts in floor at the Gators skyrocketed.
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  Speaker 1: It was like the whole focus was lost.
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  Speaker 3: And so one of the things that I have the
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  Speaker 3: system do is that tracks fault starts during the season
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  Speaker 3: to see when teams start giving up. So there's two
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  Speaker 3: things on the offense.
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  Speaker 1: The only.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing that.
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  Speaker 3: Really kind of tells you what's going on is if
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  Speaker 3: false starts start going up, your team is losing focus.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing, here's your big red flag SEC fans
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  Speaker 3: when you're watching games, delay of game. Okay, delay of
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: game is a big one. From the standpoint, it just
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: says you start seeing delay of game penalties, you start
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: seeing timeouts used for delay of game to not hit them.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: That is saying over the last sixteen years, that is
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  Speaker 3: telling you that this offense is not good.
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  Speaker 1: And is not going to be producing. Well.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it is a really big it's a really big
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  Speaker 3: red flag when you start getting delay of games, and
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  Speaker 3: watch if your team starts the false start train. If
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  Speaker 3: it starts going two, three, four, five six a game,
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  Speaker 3: that team has really really lost its focus and will
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: to try to win.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, out of bounds ESPN one oh five
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  Speaker 1: nine the zone bar two and I will head to
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  Speaker 1: uh Pearl River Resort a little bit later. And uh
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  Speaker 1: oh we we nominated you to uh so Pearl River Resort.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't take you there last time. But they have
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  Speaker 1: a water park. Oh and we want you to go
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: down one of the slides. I've got a bathing suit
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  Speaker 1: for you. We want you to go down one of
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the slides and I can video.
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  Speaker 4: It was this one of the trap door slides.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is just a water park. It's a great
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  Speaker 1: water park. We used to take the kids there all
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh the my my kids always loved there was there
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: was one in boys is the Idaho. It's about eight
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  Speaker 3: hours from us, and it's got a cool trapdoor one
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  Speaker 3: where it feels like the first you know, second you're
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: just free falling.
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  Speaker 1: He was there, Jackson. Weren't you there on Saturday? Did
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you do any of the slots? I sure did. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: my niece is it was her first time to ever
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  Speaker 1: ride a big slide. Oh that's cool. That's always fun
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: when you're a kid. It was fun. I mean when
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: whether you walk in Magic Kingdom or you know universal
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: or whether you walk in a water park and you're like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: whoa time of their life? Yeah, dipping dots, man, we
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: were in there. Yeah, my kids they would talk about
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the dipping dots. If guys are false. Yeah. So they
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: got a really cool water park. It's right across the
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  Speaker 1: street from Dancing Rabbit. Yeah. I just I can't quite
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  Speaker 1: see it. But it's really nice. I mean, it's fun,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, but my kids loved it growing up.
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  Speaker 1: So would you do that? Are you going to go
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  Speaker 1: down the water slot? I'll do that all right, I'll
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: get the bait. I guess I'll get the water. No,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I can do it from the south, from the Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll show you one of them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So Norvell an average coach.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: We got one more?
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  Speaker 4: One more yead I see that. We'll go one more minute.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: So an average coach at Florida State, any average coach
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: this year projection is eight and four any average coach Okay,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: so if he wants to be plus coach effect, dude
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  Speaker 3: needs to be nine and three. Nine and three now
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: his coach effect right now? Because of the slide. He
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: is ranked ninetieth out of one hundred nineteen coaches in
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: college football right now that have a grade.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: He is.
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  Speaker 3: Since twenty ten, with more than three years, he is
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty fifth out of two seventy two.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: All right, I see your graphic here and Jeff Levies
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: ranked one hundred and twenty ninth out of one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty two active coaches. No, it's not.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: It's one eleven out of one nineteen.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Come on, no, but your other one is one twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine out of the graphic that you sent me. Oh
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Okay, but we can discuss tomorrow. We'll
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: be live from Dancing Rabbit Golf Club. Bar two is
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: going to go down one of the water slides at
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: guys Or Falls. We're excited about going to Philip Ems.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: We'll be live tomorrow from Dancing Rabbit Golf Club. Have
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: a great day and enjoy the ribs at Martin's and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Livingston for Bar two and straight Funk. I'm your host,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Bo Bounds. We'll see tomorrow