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Offline: Dr. Vivek Murthy on Defeating Doomscrolling with Human Connection · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: The number of connections we have is not determined by
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  Speaker 1: how many followers we have on social media or how
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  Speaker 1: many people we might invite to a general holiday party.
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  Speaker 1: It's really determined by the number of people with whom
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  Speaker 1: we feel we can show up as ourselves, with whom
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  Speaker 1: we can be vulnerable, with whom we can be truly open.
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  Speaker 1: That's what defines the highest quality connections.
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  Speaker 2: L.M. Tsikassas, who's a technology theorist you may be familiar with,
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  Speaker 2: wrote this great essay early in the pandemic about doom scrolling.
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  Speaker 2: And he basically argues that what we need in times
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  Speaker 2: of uncertainty, like the one we're living through, is not
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  Speaker 2: more information, which probably won't give us the certainty that
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  Speaker 2: we're craving, but more friendship, which helps sustain us through
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  Speaker 2: the uncertainty. I'm Jon Favreau. Welcome to Offline. Hey everyone,
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  Speaker 2: exciting news. Offline is here to stay and the show
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  Speaker 2: has now moved to its own feed. If you'd like
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  Speaker 2: to listen to my full interview with Surgeon General Vivek Murthy,
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  Speaker 2: over the next few months. I'll see you there.