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Ken Rosenthal on Big Papi's Devers take, Ohtani’s remarkable return Breslow/Kennedy Sox presser · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: They didn't smear Devers, they didn't really go after him.
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  Speaker 1: They kind of just explained that they didn't think it
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  Speaker 1: was the healthiest of situations. Oh what a week.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hit the inside Scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal.
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  Speaker 2: First off, I encourage everyone to check out Fair Territory,
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  Speaker 2: the fresh episode from Monday to get Ken's thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: the Rothfield Ever situation. But part two here, Ken, is
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  Speaker 2: what you wrote about after that show. So let's start
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  Speaker 2: there and go over your article, which includes comments from
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  Speaker 2: David Ortiz. What did he say and what stood out
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  Speaker 2: to you.
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  Speaker 1: The essence of what he said was that Raphaeld Devers,
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  Speaker 1: he got paid and he has to do what his
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  Speaker 1: bosses say. That's kind of what the essence was, and
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  Speaker 1: he explained the greater length it wasn't quite that simple.
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  Speaker 1: That ego comes into play in situations like this, and
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  Speaker 1: he's been through himself, and he didn't believe the Red
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  Speaker 1: Sox were blameless and keep mind or Tease works for
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox. He's a special assistant to the Fenway
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  Speaker 1: Sports Group. But what he said was that obviously the
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  Speaker 1: situation got to a point where it had to end.
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  Speaker 1: The way it did, and he just kind of pointed
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  Speaker 1: out that you need to be the word to use,
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  Speaker 1: was mature enough to deal with these kinds of things.
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  Speaker 1: And he also mentioned that he was a dh and
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  Speaker 1: he played first base, and he did whatever the team asked,
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  Speaker 1: and he learned to get through the difficult times. He said.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't always flowers and roses with the Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: during his fourteen years there, but for the most part
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  Speaker 1: he did endure. And obviously he ended up finishing his
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  Speaker 1: career with the team and of course now working for
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  Speaker 1: the team in what has been described as a forever capacity.
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  Speaker 1: So Ortez was not ripping devors, but what he was
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  Speaker 1: saying was, you've got to have a different approach if
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  Speaker 1: you want to kind of stay in one place. And
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  Speaker 1: it didn't happen that way.
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  Speaker 3: Ken, I listen, I played with David from a ball
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  Speaker 3: all the way up, played with them on the Twins,
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  Speaker 3: played with them on the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 4: Was there for a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of ups and downs of his He works for
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  Speaker 3: the Red Sox. That's it, that's the story.
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  Speaker 1: He listen.
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  Speaker 3: You know something's going on. David loves the Dominican Republic.
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  Speaker 3: When he takes shots at a Dominican guy over the
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  Speaker 3: Red Sox. Listen, he knows where his butt bread is buttered,
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  Speaker 3: as the saying goes, so listen. I appreciate he tried
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  Speaker 3: to walk the line. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: David Ortiz and I love you, David, but you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: sign with the Red Sox. There's a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: the Red Sox have done for David Ortiz, not on
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  Speaker 3: the baseball field, which is why he's an employee there
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  Speaker 3: for life. As he says, and I get it, he's
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  Speaker 3: a franchise icon. He's done all these things. He's in
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  Speaker 3: all the Hall of Fame. He you know, he hit
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  Speaker 3: home runs, he gave the speech in twenty thirteen for
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  Speaker 3: after the bombing. But the least surprising thing of this
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  Speaker 3: is that he sided with the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he has to, all right, AJ. In the
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  Speaker 1: first paragraph of the story, actually the first sentence of
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  Speaker 1: the story, I mention that he works for the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 1: The whole thing has to be colored with that information.
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  Speaker 1: I knew that. That said, he's still a David Ortiz,
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  Speaker 1: he's still a Hall of Famer. And as he pointed out,
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  Speaker 1: I don't just work for the Red Sox. I played
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  Speaker 1: for the Red Sox for fourteen years, and if you're
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  Speaker 1: saying his opinion is invalid, I would challenge that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not saying that Ken, I'm not saying he
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  Speaker 3: has to be actor good.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying it's invalid at all.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, like when we I know you
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  Speaker 3: wrote the article, but I want people out there that
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  Speaker 3: didn't read the article that say, like, listen, I love David.
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  Speaker 3: David's a good friend of mine. I've known him for
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  Speaker 3: twenty five years. But you have to start and finish
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  Speaker 3: with he works for the Red Sox. He's still being
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  Speaker 3: paid by the Red Sox, and someone that didn't toe
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  Speaker 3: the line with another organization was let go.
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  Speaker 4: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I started the article that way. I believe I said
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  Speaker 1: that when I came on today. Obviously everything he said
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  Speaker 1: has to be colored by the fact that he works
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  Speaker 1: for the Red Sox. But the other thing about this
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  Speaker 1: is his opinion is one that a lot of people share.
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  Speaker 1: How can this three hundred million dollar player not be
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  Speaker 1: with the program, not do with the team? Asked Now,
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  Speaker 1: as I've written elsewhere, I don't share that opinion entirely. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Dever's made mistakes here. Yes, he should have acted, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: in a different way. This all started when they failed
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  Speaker 1: to include him in the communication when they were going
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  Speaker 1: after Bregman. That's how it all started. And they turned
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  Speaker 1: a kid who was not a kid anymore. He's twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: but they turned a player who they've known since he
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen, who has always had a reputation as kind
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  Speaker 1: of a sweet guy into somewhat of a sour puss.
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  Speaker 1: And that is on them and this whole situation that
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  Speaker 1: they determined they had to rectify because of course he
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  Speaker 1: was going to pollute the minds of their young players.
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  Speaker 1: That's on them too. They initiated this with their actions,
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  Speaker 1: with their lack of communication, and that is one thing
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  Speaker 1: that ortiz it knowledge that there was a lack of
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  Speaker 1: communication here quite obviously. I mean, it doesn't take a
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  Speaker 1: genius to figure that out. But to me, this is
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  Speaker 1: as much, if not more, on the Red Sox than
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  Speaker 1: it is Ralphael Devers.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Ken, just to double down on that with Poppy,
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  Speaker 2: do you feel like he was critical enough about the
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  Speaker 2: communication process. I mean I saw the quotes I know
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  Speaker 2: he mentioned like oh it kind of was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't smooth sailing in the beginning, I would have
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to hear more from him,
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  Speaker 2: Like if he was in that exact scenario, prime of
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  Speaker 2: your career, DA show up to camp, they say, throw
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  Speaker 2: your glove away, we don't want you playing defense anymore,
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  Speaker 2: which is not that is there?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: That's okay? I mean, hey, for me, Ken, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about this in the off season. I'm like, I want
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  Speaker 2: Bregman and I want Devers out of third base. He
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  Speaker 2: was potentially the worst third baseman defensively in the league.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think Raffie's stupid. So if you do
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  Speaker 2: make that decision and you tell him that and you
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  Speaker 2: say throw your glove away, which is essentially what they said,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Poppy had a pretty big ego. He
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  Speaker 2: would have been I'm pretty pissed.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he did say, as I mentioned before, that he
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  Speaker 1: was in sort of the same situation. It was largely
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  Speaker 1: a DH but when they asked them to play first base,
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  Speaker 1: he did so. I didn't ask him if you were
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  Speaker 1: Ralphield Devers in the exact same situation, how would you
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  Speaker 1: have reacted. I did not ask that question. But when
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  Speaker 1: he answered the other question that way. I think we
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  Speaker 1: had our answer, and I think he answered other questions
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  Speaker 1: in other ways. And the quotes are in the article
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  Speaker 1: where you can see he would not have reacted the
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  Speaker 1: way Devers did. Now that's his right and absolutely if
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  Speaker 1: he had been in that situation. It's always easy for
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  Speaker 1: us on the outside, including David Ortiz in this particular case,
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  Speaker 1: to have a particular opinion, but when you're living it,
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  Speaker 1: it's different. And again, no one is suggesting here that
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  Speaker 1: Devers is above reproach that what he did was just great.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't great, but there were reasons he acted the
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  Speaker 1: way he did. And this is a team or tease
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  Speaker 1: did make this point to me. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it made the article or not. They should have known
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  Speaker 1: he would react the way he did. This is a
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  Speaker 1: kid that they know forever. He was signed at sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: So again, if you're an organization and your value communication,
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  Speaker 1: as all organizations say, they do, well, practice what you preach,
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  Speaker 1: live it, and don't just talk about it. And that
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  Speaker 1: was the failure of the Red Sox here.
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  Speaker 1: None of it really surprised me. They were talking constantly
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  Speaker 1: about alignment, that they didn't have alignment with the player. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we can see that, and that's the new, I
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  Speaker 1: guess front office buzzword of the day, alignment. And it
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  Speaker 1: did impress me that Craig Breslow, the chief baseball officer,
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  Speaker 1: said maybe there were some things he should have been
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  Speaker 1: done differently when he looks at it humbly, yes, and
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  Speaker 1: that was good to hear. They didn't smear Devers, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't really go after him. They kind of just explained
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  Speaker 1: that they didn't think it was the healthiest of situations.
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  Speaker 1: I gave my opinion about this whole idea of polluting
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  Speaker 1: young players' minds. I don't necessarily buy that. I guess, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you'd want him out of the clubhouse to not have
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  Speaker 1: that kind of person in there, a guy who's disgruntled.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, if he was so disgruntled, how
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  Speaker 1: was he leading the American League as a DH and
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  Speaker 1: being the hitter he has always been. The players didn't
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  Speaker 1: seem particularly upset with him. He's done a remarkable job
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  Speaker 1: of adapting to that role. He's gotten no credit for that.
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  Speaker 1: This guy became a DH and after a really awful start,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden was back to himself again, as
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  Speaker 1: if it was nothing. And Ortiz I remember talking to
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  Speaker 1: him about this. This was just a private conversation sometime back,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, they're asking him DH. It's not
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  Speaker 1: so easy. Well he did that. So this idea that
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  Speaker 1: this guy was just somehow toxic to them, I just
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  Speaker 1: don't buy that. He did what they asked. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: do everything they asked. And as I mentioned before, playing
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  Speaker 1: first bach, which I believe he will do for the
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  Speaker 1: Giants because it's going to be a different line of communication.
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  Speaker 1: Playing first base learning that position in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a season. When your guy like Deffers, who's not particularly athletic,
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  Speaker 1: you're risking embarrassment, You're risking hurting the team. You're risking
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different things. And as I wrote way
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  Speaker 1: back when in May, all the fans and all the
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  Speaker 1: people who were clamoring for him to play first base
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  Speaker 1: for the Red Sox would have been the ours people
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  Speaker 1: to jump him when of course he would have had
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  Speaker 1: perhaps difficulty. So again I'm not forgiving devors. He should
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  Speaker 1: have been more of a team guy. Yes, but there
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  Speaker 1: are reasons why a player or anyone gets from point
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  Speaker 1: A to point B. The Red Sox were responsible for
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  Speaker 1: getting him from point A to point B, and if
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  Speaker 1: they didn't like the contract, they shouldn't have given it
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  Speaker 1: to him in the first place. They knew the player.
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  Speaker 1: Then this idea, he's not a leader and he should
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  Speaker 1: do more in the community. You've seen some of that
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  Speaker 1: talk in the last twenty four hours. You knew the guy,
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  Speaker 1: you gave him the three hundred million. He wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to change with three hundred million. He wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: become suddenly this face of the franchise. That's not him,
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox knew it.
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  Speaker 4: Sam Kennedy said something that stuck out to me. He said, well,
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  Speaker 4: name one major league organization with more championships and banners
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  Speaker 4: in the last twenty four years. Is that was that
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  Speaker 4: kind of a shot at everybody that was questioning them
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  Speaker 4: and questioning their motives? And is that even fair? That's
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  Speaker 4: like saying that's like saying a football team goes into
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  Speaker 4: play a team, it's like, haven't beaten this team in
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  Speaker 4: fifty three years. It's like, well, nobody's been on the
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  Speaker 4: same team. Is that a fair statement by Sam Kennedy to.
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  Speaker 1: Say, yes, it's fair. It's fair because this ownership has
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  Speaker 1: led the team to four World Series titles when they
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  Speaker 1: hadn't won one since nineteen eighteen. However, that does not
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  Speaker 1: exonerate them forever. This is a business in which you
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  Speaker 1: have to succeed year after year after year. That's the goal.
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  Speaker 1: They have not succeeded in some time. They had a
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  Speaker 1: great year in twenty one, but really since their last
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  Speaker 1: World Series title in eighteen, that's it. So when you
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  Speaker 1: have last place finishes, when you have disappointments, when you
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  Speaker 1: have poorly executed trades, as the Monkey Betts trade was
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  Speaker 1: when you have a series of missteps, Well, it can't
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  Speaker 1: just keep saying we won four titles. That's not what
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  Speaker 1: Sam Kennedy was doing. But he was just pointing out
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  Speaker 1: we've been a successful ownership, no argument, but they haven't
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  Speaker 1: been successful in recent years. It's like the Yankees. Do
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees walk around saying we've got the twenty eight championships? No,
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  Speaker 1: they know they haven't won one since two thousand and nine,
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  Speaker 1: and they are hell bent on winning another, at least
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  Speaker 1: many of the people there are. So I understand his sentiment.
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  Speaker 1: It's certainly an accurate sentiment, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily excuse what has happened in recent years.
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  Speaker 1: I can.
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  Speaker 2: Let's finish with a couple of minutes on Otani thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on his return. It finally happened, and it happened much
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  Speaker 2: sooner than most of us anticipated, because it was like, oh, wait,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna maybe be back for the also break, maybe
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  Speaker 2: this week, boom Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. His point was that throwing simulated games before playing
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  Speaker 1: that night was kind of exhausting him, so why not
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  Speaker 1: do it in a real game? Fair point and good call.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he looked good. The command wasn't there quite obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and he talked about after the game how he was
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  Speaker 1: missing glove side. He was his arm was moving a
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  Speaker 1: little too quickly. That'll all come. The fact that he
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  Speaker 1: reached one hundred, that's really impressive. The fact that he
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: had two hits in the game, that's really impressive. It
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: was fun to watch him as a two way guy again,
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  Speaker 1: even though it was a brief appearance, and I expect
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: he will only get better as time goes on. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to build up, his command will sharpen, and everything
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  Speaker 1: knock on Wood will be back to what it was
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  Speaker 1: pre surgery and.
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  Speaker 3: Ken. It was just nice to see him back out
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  Speaker 3: on the mound. Whether the results were secondary, it doesn't matter,
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  Speaker 3: but it was nice to see him out there doing
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  Speaker 3: what he does. The Dodgers definitely need the boost, especially
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  Speaker 3: on the pitching side, so so good for him.
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  Speaker 2: Two knocks took it takes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, as we said, we hate o'tis all the
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  Speaker 3: fans in the comments that we ha whatever, I don't,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really I does, I don't, I don't care
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  Speaker 3: Scotts Scott. It hurts his ego smaller when bat people
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  Speaker 3: write bad comments, and I want to ask you about
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  Speaker 3: something else. Last night, the Nats lost their ninth in
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  Speaker 3: a row. Dave Martinez. They got rid of some coaches.
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  Speaker 3: He's now, he's already coming out preemptive strike right like,
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  Speaker 3: it's not the coaches fall. The coaches work really hard.
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  Speaker 3: How hot is his seat right now? Is he going
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  Speaker 3: to be next in line for managerial firing? And I
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: hate to see anybody fire. Dave Martinez is a good guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's won a World Series. He knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: But it's the cyclical life of a baseball manager.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that his seat is so hot. Their
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  Speaker 1: ownership doesn't seem to be terribly involved or terribly interested
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: in shaking up the status quo. That's just the reality
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: with the Nationals. However, since winning the World Series in
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, they have the second most losses in the
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: major leagues. Not a lot of people realize that second
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: most only to the Rockies. Now, there are a ton
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  Speaker 1: of reasons for that that go well beyond the manager.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: They've had failures in player development and scouting, amateur internet
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  Speaker 1: national all kinds of issues. They made a great trade
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  Speaker 1: for Juan Soto, no question, Mike Rizzo did that, but
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  Speaker 1: they have not supported that with excelling in those other areas.
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  Speaker 1: So will Dave M. Martinez take the fall for all this?
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  Speaker 1: I tend to doubt it, simply because of the way
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  Speaker 1: they operate. But as we've seen before, enough losing can
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  Speaker 1: change in organization's direction, and nine in a row is
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  Speaker 1: not good here. So who knows where they'll go at this.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: But what I wrote about a couple of weeks ago
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: in the Nationals fans I read some comments aj they
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: didn't like the timing of this article. In fact, Mike
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Rizzo went on the radio in Washington and said, hey,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: we're playing better. Well, I don't know why Ken wrote
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: this at this particular time. Well guess what I wrote
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it because this is an ongoing thing. And yeah, they
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: had one, I don't know seven out of ten at
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the time. I guess I should have waited till now
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: to satisfy everyone's timing question. But here we are, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: the issues that I wrote about are the issues. And
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: it's not an e fix. And if you want to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: defend Rizzo and defend Dave, even the ownership has not
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: given them the financial support in really many areas that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: they need. But at the same time, you've got a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: draft better, you've got to develop better. They've done a
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: little bit better job the last couple of years. They
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: had some turnover and change some people around, but the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: failures of the team right now are a reflection of
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the issues that they've had over the last decade or
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: so in those areas.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: How dare you get ahead of a story that was looming?
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Ken new? See this is why Ken doesn't make predictions.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: He predicted they were going to go on a nine
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: game losing streak, and then that way David Martinez article
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: would work. See this is why Ken doesn't like to
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: give predictions, because when he's right, it's really bad for
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: people like he's too right.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't exactly put it that way, but whatever you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: want to say, man like the.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Just don't write anything about me Ken, because I don't
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: want to be hit by a bus walking on the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: street today.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, great, I have no answer to that, as does Ken.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Ken.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you congratulate this week. Thanks guys, all right, that's
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal fair territory. I encourage everyone to check out
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: a lot from Ken as he unpacks the Rockeyelle Devers situation.