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- 0:00Welcome to Pediatrics Now, cases, updates, and discussions for the busy practitioner.
- 0:05I'm your host, Holly Wayment. I work for UT Health San Antonio's Department of Pediatrics.
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- 0:34All right, good morning, everyone, and welcome to Pediatric Grand Rounds.
- 0:38This morning, I'm very excited to welcome Mary Garr as our speaker.
- 0:43Since 2018, retired Colonel Mary Garr has been the president and CEO of the
- 0:48Family Service, a San Antonio nonprofit started in 1903, which works with individuals,
- 0:54families, and communities to address the social determinants of health through
- 0:59a trauma-informed care lens.
- 1:01And that's what she's going to be speaking with us about this morning.
- 1:04She's a graduate of Georgetown University with a Bachelor of Science in Foreign
- 1:08Studies and obtained her master's degree in health administration from Baylor
- 1:12University and strategic studies from the U.S. Army War College.
- 1:16She's an experienced leader with decades of diverse roles and served several
- 1:21industries, including health care, city management, nonprofits,
- 1:25and the military as a CEO and a COO.
- 1:29Notably, she served as the last garrison commander of Fort Sam Houston and Camp
- 1:33Bullis during the merger into Joint Base San Antonio, and she stood up the San
- 1:37Antonio military health system as its first chief operating officer.
- 1:41She has been the recipient of numerous awards and decorations,
- 1:45both throughout her military career and through her work with family service.
- 1:48So join me in welcoming Mary this morning, and I'll hand it over to her for her grand rounds.
- 1:55Dr. Hansen, thank you so very much, and thank you for inviting me to speak today.
- 2:01I had the privilege of speaking with some of your residents earlier this summer,
- 2:05and I'm glad to talk to a larger group, including some of the faculty.
- 2:09Appreciate all of your interest in the importance of understanding the impact
- 2:14of what's going on in your patients' lives outside your specific health care
- 2:19that is being provided to them.
- 2:21As you can imagine, a lot of what we work with is what's going on in people's
- 2:27lives at home, at work, school, and in the community. And that's what we'll talk about today.
- 2:31I'll go ahead and get started now.
- 2:34First off, as Dr. Hansen said, I am at family service.
- 2:38As of January, we'll be 122 years old.
- 2:41Our mission is all about working with individuals who are struggling with barriers
- 2:46and challenges in their lives, helping them to overcome them,
- 2:50and thus ultimately strengthening their own health, that of their families and
- 2:54that of their communities.
- 2:56How we do that is by addressing social determinants of health,
- 2:59and we have also been trauma-informed in our work for over a decade.
- 3:04Before I get into some of the rest, I'd like to give some level setting on some
- 3:08definitions so we all understand that what we're talking about in the same way.
- 3:13First off, we look at the world health definition of health,
- 3:17talking about it being much more than just understanding physical and mental
- 3:21health, and then looking at the impacts of downstream versus upstream health.
- 3:26Downstream is what we are all working with, whether it's already happened in
- 3:29people's lives. I have a couple of examples here.
- 3:32Upstream is what can we do today to help prevent or mitigate changes going forward
- 3:39that could adversely affect people's
- 3:41lives here, and that ultimately could lead to good or bad outcomes.
- 3:45Just to help give you some context here about the impact of health disparities
- 3:50and how we've gotten to some of this, you may or may not know that in the United
- 3:54States, health care is the largest industry.
- 3:59We pay more in health care than all other countries in the world,
- 4:03significantly more than most.
- 4:05Unfortunately, though, we do spend the least in what's called social services.
- 4:09That includes some of the lists that I have here compared to our peer,
- 4:14you know, top 10 developed nations.
- 4:15We spend more on health care, but unfortunately, that doesn't translate into
- 4:20being top tier in health status.
- 4:22We have the lowest life expectancies, highest chronic disease burdens, highest suicide rates.
- 4:27Also understanding the highest number of hospitalizations from preventable causes,
- 4:32as well as the highest number of avoidable deaths.
- 4:36We also, in some of the stats, show that out of almost 40 OECD countries,
- 4:42we've ranked 25th in maternal mortality, 26th in life expectancy.
- 4:48And 28th in low birth weight.
- 4:50When we look at how we're spending our funds in the United States,
- 4:54for every dollar that we spend on health care, we are spending only about 90
- 5:00cents in those social services or that upstream health and how to prevent adverse
- 5:05health issues down the road.
- 5:06In our peer countries, those that have much higher health status than we do,
- 5:11for every dollar they are spending on direct health care services,
- 5:16they're spending approximately two dollars on those social services or that
- 5:20upstream health space here.
- 5:22And when we look at different comparisons as well, if you are familiar with the work of Dr.
- 5:28Elizabeth Bradley, she wrote the American Healthcare Paradox.
- 5:32She had noted in some research out there, you know, that we are spending with
- 5:38all these disparities, work also with Dr.
- 5:41Moran at the Leadership Institute of Global Health.
- 5:44He gave some examples. This was before the pandemic, but I am sure that the
- 5:49comparisons still approximately hold true.
- 5:51He noted that for one emergency department visit could be equal the cost of
- 5:56approximately one month's rent or even more at this point.
- 6:00Two hospitalizations could equal the cost of one year of childcare.
- 6:0520 MRIs could equal the cost of one social worker for one year.
- 6:11And 60 echocardiograms were the equivalent of one public school teacher's pay
- 6:16for a year. This is on average here.
- 6:19So we're seeing some real mismatches on upstream versus downstream health at
- 6:25this point in time. So where does...
- 6:28Our money go, what goes into health, and then how do we spend the funds that we have on this?
- 6:33So in 2019, our GDP, we spent $3.5 trillion on healthcare, direct healthcare.
- 6:432021, it was during the pandemic, but it had raised to $4.1 trillion.
- 6:49When I first went into healthcare three decades ago, there were concerns that
- 6:54we were spending approximately 12% of our GDP and it was going up at that time.
- 7:00Now it is approaching 20%. And we realized that, you know, this is just unsustainable,
- 7:06you know, over time because we see an aging population in the United States.
- 7:10We're seeing more chronic health conditions at younger ages.
- 7:13A lot of them tied to issues that could be preventable.
- 7:17A lot of them tied back to the impact of social determinants of health challenges
- 7:21and barriers, and the impact of childhood trauma that carries on into affecting health as adults.
- 7:27So when you look at this slide, this shows, the research shows,
- 7:30and there's different studies out there, but most of what goes into our health
- 7:34is not tied to genetics or healthcare access.
- 7:39And I give some examples here. But when we look at how we spend on healthcare.
- 7:44About 90%, 97% is spent on our healthcare services. And here's a breakout of that.
- 7:51And then less than 3% on public health.
- 7:54This is not including those community-based orgs that struggle with grants all
- 8:00the time, but impact health in a lot of direct ways outside the healthcare system.
- 8:06So what really goes into influencing health? In the United States,
- 8:10the average person sees a healthcare provider approximately four times a year.
- 8:15That's about 15-minute appointments, 20 or 30, depending on the type of appointment.
- 8:20So we're only able to see a patient 100 minutes a year, much as we would like to.
- 8:26It is very hard to influence health because health happens where we spend our time.
- 8:31So when you're thinking about that, health happens in the home.
- 8:34It happens in the work setting for children or even adults.
- 8:38It happens in school and then in after school programs.
- 8:42Other huge influences of health are, you know, can we access grocery stores,
- 8:47you know, whether it's H-E-B or Walmart, even Dollar General, et cetera.
- 8:52So, you know, do people have transportation to get to the grocery store?
- 8:56Do they have nutritional literacy to know what is involved with healthy eating
- 9:00for themselves and their families?
- 9:02Do they feel they can afford healthy foods? Are they ending up going to the
- 9:06Dollar General store because they don't think they can afford fresh fruits and vegetables?
- 9:10So they're spending less money, but they're buying highly processed foods that are not nutritious.
- 9:16And as you well know, we have people who are obese who are also malnourished
- 9:21and people who are very thin, but also not healthy either.
- 9:24So other big influences are on health. Do people have access to safe outdoor spaces? Okay.
- 9:31We know that's important, not just for physical health, but also mental and
- 9:35emotional health as well.
- 9:37And if you're living in a neighborhood where you don't have parks nearby or
- 9:41sidewalks, or as you know, in San Antonio,
- 9:44the impact of stray dogs in the neighborhoods or the impact of gangs,
- 9:49you know, our drive-bys, or if you know where the local meth house is in your
- 9:53neighborhood and you don't know your neighbors, you know, even to help you support
- 9:57you if you need to, you know, borrow something or need somebody to help look
- 10:01out for your children, et cetera.
- 10:03And I'm talking about the neighborhood around our community center that Dr.
- 10:07Hansen has been to, but we have many neighborhoods like that here in San Antonio.
- 10:11And then do people have access to culturally, educationally enriching learning
- 10:16spaces outside of school or such as libraries, museums, et cetera,
- 10:21or do they feel that they're on part of town that they don't have transportation
- 10:24to, that they're not comfortable with going to, they don't feel they would be
- 10:28welcome because it's for the affluent people, not for them, et cetera.
- 10:33And then the impact of faith-based organizations, churches, synagogues, temples, et cetera.
- 10:39Those are trusted agents for so many people.
- 10:42And those are places that people will go to when they have questions and ask for help.
- 10:48So do we bring the faith-based community into helping folks understand what
- 10:52goes into health and how they can be healthier?
- 10:55And then, of course, community organizations who are very deeply rooted,
- 10:59many of them grassroots in the neighborhoods that they serve,
- 11:02how can you leverage and access them to help work to improve health outside of your own practices?
- 11:10So when we think about this, we need to rethink health and think about what
- 11:15is truly included in that spectrum of health and who is involved in it.
- 11:19And that really involves that downstream, upstream collaboration.
- 11:23Because when we think about it, social determinants of health,
- 11:26those impacts start before we are born and go through every stage of life up
- 11:32until, you know, the very end.
- 11:34And we also have to realize that they are often intergenerational,
- 11:37that, you know, what is happening today was affecting the parents and the grandparents
- 11:41and the great-grandparents before them.
- 11:43And then realizing too that social determinants of health affects our entire population.
- 11:49And so we've got to look at it from that lens as well.
- 11:52And generally when I'm able to do this in person, I'll go into more detail.
- 11:56But when we think about types of health, it's not just physical,
- 12:00mental, emotional health, but it also includes things like social health,
- 12:04financial health, environmental,
- 12:06occupational, spiritual health, and then thinking about health of individuals,
- 12:11families, and communities because they all intertwine.
- 12:15The impact of an individual's health within the family can affect the entire family's health.
- 12:20And that family's health can affect the neighborhood and the community.
- 12:24And if a neighborhood is struggling and suffering, that definitely impacts the
- 12:28families living in it, which impacts the individual. So everything is intertwined here.
- 12:34So understanding that there are multiple definitions and models tied to social terms of health,
- 12:41the one that we subscribe to and follow at Family Service and we talk about
- 12:46in the work we do here in the communities and try to promote is a national,
- 12:50you know, federal model through the Department of Health and Human Services called Healthy People.
- 12:55They've been around since 1979.
- 12:57They bring together health and healthcare experts every couple of years and
- 13:02then every 10 years, they give an update,
- 13:04this time Healthy People 2030, on things that go into their mission about how
- 13:09to promote, strengthen, and evaluate our nation's efforts to improve health
- 13:14and well-being of all people.
- 13:16Here are some overarching goals tied to that. Again, things that definitely
- 13:20all communities want to be subscribing to.
- 13:23And what is nice about Healthy People, it is a national model so people can
- 13:28compare community to community.
- 13:30There's programs, there's indicators right now over 350 tied to it that communities
- 13:35can look at scaling at the local level.
- 13:38And then, you know, from there saying, what do you think is applied to local
- 13:42areas? We know things like diabetes and.
- 13:45Obesity, heart disease, et cetera. Things that we're even seeing at younger
- 13:49ages that you will be seeing if you haven't already, even in some of your children,
- 13:54higher prevalence now type two, not just type one diabetes.
- 13:57And we have too many families that think that it's just tied to genetics and
- 14:02that their child has it because they have it and their grandparents had it,
- 14:07et cetera. Therefore, it'll just continue.
- 14:09When we know and the research is showing that There are preventable ways to
- 14:13address diabetes, to prevent people from getting it, and even to do a little
- 14:17bit of reverse, or people are diagnosed as pre-diabetic on how to start.
- 14:22Preventing them from falling further into that and becoming full diabetic.
- 14:26And that's just one example. But that is a program that you all could look at
- 14:30if interested to see what could be affecting your patients and how to be engaged in it.
- 14:36But these are the overarching goals here. The one at the bottom is where a number
- 14:40of us are working locally trying to build bigger awareness of social determinants
- 14:45of health and how can we work better together across sectors and not just think
- 14:50of it as a health care problem,
- 14:51but really as a problem for all of us that are touching health to be working together on.
- 14:58So in this model here with healthy people, this definition,
- 15:02you know, here is what they use and those, they're looking at social determinants
- 15:06of health being those conditions and environments where people are born,
- 15:10raised, live, work, play, and age that can affect their long-term health outcomes,
- 15:14their life potential, their quality of life.
- 15:16It really presents opportunities for people to be happy, healthy,
- 15:21and successful, or it It puts barriers in their way to be able to,
- 15:26you know, to prevent them from being able to do so.
- 15:28These items listed on this slide, I can tell you are things that we see specifically
- 15:33in our organization with the clients and families that we serve. A number of our peers do.
- 15:39I'm sure you either are or will be seeing this with a number of your patients as well.
- 15:44And oftentimes these are tied back to social determinants of health and also
- 15:48to the impact of adverse childhood experiences or childhood trauma,
- 15:52which is also for many a part of SDOH, but not for everybody.
- 15:56So in this model, they have five different major domains, economic stability,
- 16:02having access to high quality education all the way from early childhood to adult learning,
- 16:09having access to healthcare and understanding health in that context,
- 16:14having a strong neighborhood and built environment or infrastructure to support,
- 16:18and then also having strong social and community context or engagement.
- 16:23And I'm gonna go into more detail for that in just a moment here.
- 16:27Here's some examples within those five areas, obviously economic stability,
- 16:31everything from being in poverty to food insecurity, housing instability, et cetera.
- 16:36And then if you don't have strong educational supports from early childhood
- 16:40all the way up to graduating from high school and going on to college, career,
- 16:45job training, it is hard to then have good job skills or access to careers,
- 16:51which then ties back to economic stability.
- 16:54The healthcare piece is primary care, also health literacy, nutritional literacy,
- 16:59and having the language to be able to articulate that and understand it and process it.
- 17:04The neighborhood and built environment, it's having access to those supports,
- 17:08having safe homes, safe neighborhoods, etc.
- 17:11And on that social community context, this gives some examples,
- 17:15but I think of it more in terms of do people know how to access resources when they need them?
- 17:19And do they also feel that they are able to contribute to their neighborhoods,
- 17:24to their communities, so they can
- 17:25have that sense of purpose and not feel isolated, alienated, and alone.
- 17:30So with that, to be able to understand where we're at today,
- 17:34we really also have to understand our past.
- 17:37And so when we think about our past, there are two major factors tied to that.
- 17:42One is institutional bias, which really has worked systematically to give certain
- 17:47groups advantages over other groups.
- 17:50And I give examples here of what has been involved with that in the past.
- 17:55But when you look at that and you think about, for instance,
- 17:58the impact of slavery and how that still carries over today,
- 18:02or land displacement with Native Americans and then their children being put
- 18:07into boarding schools and forced to not be able to use their native language or learn their culture,
- 18:12et cetera, and the impact on so many of our Native Americans today.
- 18:16And then you think about the bias towards certain religions,
- 18:20if you're familiar with red lighting,
- 18:23you know, and that it was up until just recent decades, and this was at federal,
- 18:27state, and local levels, that depending on the color of your skin,
- 18:31your race, and ethnic background,
- 18:33the deeds were being written to say that people of certain colors could live
- 18:37in certain neighborhoods.
- 18:39But if you were another color, you could only live in other parts of town.
- 18:43And banks would not give mortgages to you and it would be specifically written into the deeds.
- 18:49And if somebody in a home tried to sell that home to somebody of a different
- 18:52race, they would not be allowed to do so.
- 18:55And when you think about our biggest asset and our lives for most people is
- 19:01home ownership and being able to transfer the wealth of our home to our children or grandchildren.
- 19:07And when you're thinking about affluent homes that were built 80,
- 19:12100 years ago and passed on or then sold, those homes back in the day might
- 19:17have started, and I'll use San Antonio, let's say in Alamo Heights.
- 19:21About $6,000 to $10,000 to be built back then.
- 19:25And many of those homes today are worth a million or more dollars.
- 19:28Other parts of town, such as on the west side and the south side,
- 19:32the homes might have cost three to five thousand dollars to build, you know, decades ago.
- 19:37But even today, because of where they're at, those homes now are valued,
- 19:42you know, a hundred to two hundred thousand dollars.
- 19:44So not as much wealth has been built. And with the cost of home ownership and
- 19:49maintenance, it's also been hard for many of them to maintain their homes.
- 19:54And for many of those folks today, they receive code violations,
- 19:58they struggle with property title clearances, and they're at risk.
- 20:02And a lot of them have had homes taken away from them. They've been evicted.
- 20:05Homes have been demolished because they've not been able to maintain those homes.
- 20:09So, again, a lost opportunity there in being able to pass on.
- 20:14And when you also think about a further effect of this downstream,
- 20:19when you're tying it into education, as you know, in Texas, as in many states,
- 20:24our school system, our public schools specifically,
- 20:27are primarily funded through property taxes.
- 20:31And if you have a million-dollar home and property tax for that versus a $100,000
- 20:35home and the property tax for that, then it's much harder to have the funds
- 20:40available to support those public schools.
- 20:43And there's a lot more in-depth on that, but that just gives you a taste of
- 20:47the challenges that we all have experienced.
- 20:50In terms of being able to have an equitable balance here for building wealth,
- 20:55for being able to fund education, which ties to future job opportunities, et cetera.
- 21:01Now, under systemic barriers in our past, that's where people can be unfairly
- 21:06discriminated against and not be able to fully participate in society or in community, et cetera.
- 21:12And here's some examples here. The digital divide specifically is where people
- 21:18have not had access to technology,
- 21:21to Wi-Fi, to broadband, et cetera, to be able to help them do their work,
- 21:26do school, do learning, et cetera.
- 21:28And if you think about it in comparison to back in the 1930s,
- 21:32when President Franklin Roosevelt said that it was no longer a luxury to have
- 21:38electricity, it really was a necessity.
- 21:41And they had the electrification program across our country,
- 21:45especially in rural areas.
- 21:46Today, we're at that same point with access to our digital world.
- 21:51It is not a luxury anymore. but we
- 21:54still have many areas a lot of them in our rural areas but
- 21:57even here in our urban areas where people don't
- 22:00have consistent access they either can't afford it
- 22:02or that wi-fi has not made it to their their home or their neighborhood we still
- 22:08have had that in san antonio we saw that clearly during the pandemic when there
- 22:12are many students that did not have access at home and schools were having to
- 22:17have hot spots in their buses in the parking lots for parents to take kids,
- 22:22if the parents were able to take their kids to go learn, and then they didn't have.
- 22:26Computers or tablets at home.
- 22:28At schools, a lot of them would issue tablets, but maybe it'd be one per family
- 22:32in some of our poorest school districts.
- 22:34So a lot of gaps there. That's one example.
- 22:36I'll talk about the school to prison pipeline more in a minute. Healthcare access.
- 22:41In the United States, over 60% of our healthcare access is tied to employer insurance.
- 22:50But if you don't have insurance, you know, then it is much harder to access
- 22:54health care. And it could be self-pay or could end up being compensated care.
- 22:58For many people, the emergency room ends up becoming their primary care site.
- 23:02And they're coming in at a later point than when they should have.
- 23:05They're not getting preventive care or wellness checks.
- 23:08And then when they come in, they are sicker and harder to treat.
- 23:11It's more expensive, sometimes already terminal. We've seen that before.
- 23:15And so, you know, that is a challenge here. But even in hiring and promotion practices,
- 23:20and we all know that should be fair and equitable, but even with how they work
- 23:26to screen, if somebody's name stands out or if a race stands out,
- 23:33an ethnic group stands out, or a gender stands out, that could overtly or covertly
- 23:38be a reason to not hire or promote somebody.
- 23:42Transportation is a huge barrier. You may have patients that struggle to be
- 23:47able to get to your appointments because they don't have sufficient transportation.
- 23:51And even if they rely on our bus system, which we know is not very adequate
- 23:55here, we don't have strong public transportation here. It might take them an
- 23:59hour or more to get to your appointments because they're having to change buses in two or three times.
- 24:04And if they don't have access to affordable child care, what are they going
- 24:08to do with their other children when they come to your appointment?
- 24:11You know, or is that going to prevent people from working because they don't
- 24:14have access to safe, affordable child care?
- 24:17And unfortunately, as you may or may know at this point, when we're looking
- 24:22at the impact of child abuse, unfortunately, there are too many kids that are
- 24:27actually abused by other children.
- 24:29Family members or caregivers who are watching the children because that's all
- 24:34that that parent can afford.
- 24:36And they thought that they were safe, but then the children weren't.
- 24:39And we see that with some of our counseling, unfortunately, and you might be seeing that as well.
- 24:44And then language culture. And I talked about the wealth aspects there already.
- 24:48But that all ties to our past, which is now affecting where we are at today.
- 24:53And this is that same slide that I showed earlier.
- 24:56This is what we deal with today, good or bad.
- 25:00The future is where we would like to see.
- 25:03Having opportunities to be able to have consistent, healthy food,
- 25:07access to affordable housing, being able to build wealth, good job training
- 25:11because we've had strong education supports.
- 25:14Having that access to healthcare, both physical and mental health,
- 25:18having strong health literacy.
- 25:20And then again, I talked about social and community context.
- 25:23And And, you know, and that's across the board. And the second chance or program is,
- 25:28you know, for those who've been formally incarcerated and do they have an opportunity
- 25:32after they've paid their dues
- 25:34or debt to be able to be rehabilitated and reintegrated back into society.
- 25:38And then that neighborhood and built environment, I give some examples here,
- 25:42everything from being in safe homes to safe neighborhoods.
- 25:46And if you think about the safe homes, you know, we have too many.
- 25:50Especially the older housing stock where children are at risk with lead paint.
- 25:55We know about Flint, Michigan with lead pipes and the effects in the water,
- 25:59but that's not unique to them.
- 26:00We see that around our country, especially with the older infrastructure,
- 26:03so many cities around our country, asbestos, other challenges within the home setting.
- 26:10And if they are in older homes and struggle, let's say with pest control,
- 26:14then we know the impact on the
- 26:16respiratory system with all of that if they don't have air conditioning.
- 26:20And I can tell you that the Department of Labor requires all public housing
- 26:25to have heating, but what they don't require in our public housing is air conditioning.
- 26:32And when you think about being in South Texas and the impact of not having air
- 26:37conditioning in the heat, we know that effects are most vulnerable,
- 26:41which includes our older adults, those who are immune compromised,
- 26:44and then our young children as well.
- 26:45That can also compromise respiratory systems, aggravate, you know,
- 26:50asthma, COPD, et cetera here.
- 26:53And then, you know, within the neighborhoods, as I mentioned some examples earlier,
- 26:57is do they have the supports and the infrastructure in place to be able to safely
- 27:02live in those neighborhoods here?
- 27:05So on the national landscape with SDOH, I wanted to show you this CDC slide,
- 27:09Centers for Disease Control.
- 27:11And this talks about, you know, at the bottom of pyramid, this is where we would
- 27:15like to see having the biggest impact for the largest number of people.
- 27:19And here's some examples of ways that, you know, working upstream,
- 27:24you know, improving long-term health outcomes, having access to early childhood
- 27:29education, having access to public transportation to be able to move around.
- 27:33If you live in poverty and don't have good transportation or supports,
- 27:38your world is very, very small. You don't really get out of your neighborhood.
- 27:42A lot of the people we work have deep-rooted poverty and they don't get out.
- 27:47So we go to them to be able to meet their needs.
- 27:50And then, you know, ways to help people live safely in homes and access home ownership.
- 27:55Earned income tax credit, if you're not familiar with that, that's something
- 27:59the federal government set up decades ago so that families who otherwise might
- 28:05not have filed taxes, but they're eligible for child care, child tax credits,
- 28:09they through the VITA program, volunteer income tax assistant program,
- 28:13or on their own can file taxes and receive a credit.
- 28:16And they're from there receive a refund, even if they didn't think they were
- 28:20eligible for our needing to file taxes.
- 28:23And then obviously fluoridation of water. We know the impact of dental health
- 28:26on physical health as well. Well.
- 28:28San Antonio was the last large city to actually fluoridate its water.
- 28:32People thought that it was a toxin and that would affect the quality of the
- 28:38water and the taste of the water, and they didn't want it.
- 28:40And we know that fluoride for children and adults as well helps to have strong,
- 28:46healthy teeth. But those are just some examples there.
- 28:49And then the next level up is how can we make the default choice the right choice?
- 28:54So for instance, it was only 15 years ago that here in San Antonio that we actually
- 29:01said we don't want smoking in public buildings and then restaurants,
- 29:05et cetera. So that ordinance finally passed.
- 29:08Before that, you go into a restaurant and say, I would like to sit in the non-smoking
- 29:13section, but two tables over was the smoking section. So it really wasn't non-smoking.
- 29:18So, you know, how can we make that, you know, the right choice,
- 29:21the default choice, you know, seatbelts and cars have saved countless lives
- 29:25at this point in time, but that used to not be a mandate here.
- 29:29And then here's a few examples as well on that.
- 29:33And then moving up that pyramid, that's where we tend to focus a lot more is
- 29:37one-on-one interventions, which are very beneficial and helpful,
- 29:41but that's where we put a lot of the resources and we need to be able to help
- 29:44bring that down to the lower end of that pyramid here.
- 29:47So here's some examples of community efforts.
- 29:51These are national programs and grants. Some of these are ones that are being done here,
- 29:55either through San Antonio's MetroHealth or other orgs, but these are available
- 30:00throughout the country, and they tie to different effects of impacting SCOH
- 30:05that affect physical health down the road.
- 30:08I wanted to spend more time here on helping to go more in depth of giving you
- 30:12some context from both upstream and downstream health.
- 30:15I don't have time to go into a lot of detail, but I just want to give you a
- 30:19basic understanding and you can feel free to go look up more on your own.
- 30:24These are not all inclusive, but it just gives you an idea of what we're talking
- 30:27about across these five domains.
- 30:30And also realize that if something is going on in one area with an individual
- 30:35or family's life, then generally speaking, there's more things going on.
- 30:39And what I talk about is we'll have folks coming in to our emergency pantry,
- 30:43for instance, and ask for help with diapers, which are expensive,
- 30:47or hygiene supplies, school supplies, et cetera.
- 30:50Well, you know, we provide that, but then we start working with them on the root causes as well.
- 30:55Why do you need these supplies? And what can we help you to do so you can be
- 30:59at a point where you can afford that for yourself and your family.
- 31:02And then they all tie to these root causes here.
- 31:05Surrender economic stability, what we would like to ensure is that people have
- 31:09access and can support themselves with affordable, healthy food.
- 31:14Access to job training, you know, housing that they can, you know,
- 31:18afford here and not be at risk of being evicted or foreclosed on.
- 31:22And then being able to understand, you know, their financial status.
- 31:26We work with folks that they don't know and understand their debt.
- 31:29They don't know what a credit score is. And as you know, in today's world, we need credit scores,
- 31:34you know, to be able to not just get a home loan or a car loan,
- 31:37but also, you know, to get into an apartment, you
- 31:41know and employers look at it so that is a very critical piece
- 31:44for now and so you know then helping people to get
- 31:47out of predatory lending or payday loans
- 31:50or predatory banking we've seen this time and time again we'll
- 31:54have people come in that took out a four hundred dollar loan and now you know
- 31:59two years later they owe two thousand dollars on it because of the the type
- 32:03of loan that it was and where it was from and then how do people work to build
- 32:06assets and then being able to have ability to grow and, you know,
- 32:11opportunity for job skills and training or college, etc., which ties into the next one.
- 32:16We need to ensure that, you know, children have that early education and that
- 32:21high quality education to be prepared for kindergarten.
- 32:24Research shows that a child that is ready for kindergarten when they start kindergarten
- 32:28is more likely to be reading at third grade level than third grade.
- 32:32And up until that time, as you know, children are learning to read.
- 32:36But from third grade on, they are reading to learn.
- 32:40And if they didn't learn to read or read very well, then they are going to be
- 32:44struggling in that foundational area.
- 32:46And if they don't receive extra supports to help them move forward,
- 32:49they're at risk of falling through the cracks and being pushed along or becoming
- 32:54disenfranchised or uncomfortable or getting in trouble, et cetera, and dropping out.
- 32:59And if they do that and don't graduate, then it's harder for them to go on to college and career.
- 33:04So it's having all those supports. But even then, if people are going on to
- 33:08college, and we see this with a lot of first-generation college students,
- 33:12especially if they aren't.
- 33:14Going local. We do a lot of great work to help kids get scholarships to go up.
- 33:18Then do they have the supports to stay in college?
- 33:20Financial is a key one, but it's also all those other emotional supports and
- 33:25cultural supports when this is so different and new to them because they've
- 33:29never had a family member go to college before.
- 33:32And then ensuring that they graduate and are ready to move on to that first
- 33:36employment and start building out a career.
- 33:39The healthcare piece, Again, the mental health access, we saw this before the pandemic.
- 33:44Many folks now have realized how much mental health supports are needed for
- 33:49our children, our schools, but really all phases of life, even older adults.
- 33:53And then addressing the impact of childhood trauma. I'll talk more about that.
- 33:57Accessing affordable health care and then that literacy piece.
- 34:00Under neighborhood and built environment, making sure we've got safe neighborhoods,
- 34:05safe homes for our families here.
- 34:07Improving our zoning codes and compliance of those. Again, I can use the stray dogs as an example.
- 34:13Many of them actually aren't, they're aren't feral.
- 34:16They are owned by people that either can't maintain their fences and yards or
- 34:21don't pay attention and just don't understand that or don't care.
- 34:25And then having those safe outdoor spaces, as I mentioned, how important that
- 34:29is for physical and mental, emotional health.
- 34:32Understanding our first responders. You know, we work with a lot of folks that
- 34:36didn't have supports from authority figures, whether it was police,
- 34:41fire, you know, even health care, schools, et cetera, government.
- 34:45And it's helping them be comfortable and understanding those supports and building
- 34:50those relationships so that police know their communities that they're supporting.
- 34:54And for instance, you know, we finally incorporated a mental health response
- 34:58team embedded in our police response so that if a mental health crisis is going on,
- 35:04it doesn't escalate into loss
- 35:06of life or something that could have been prevented because the police,
- 35:10who aren't mental health providers and shouldn't have to be,
- 35:13but they understand and bring in the right folks to help through that de-escalation here.
- 35:17I mentioned the digital inclusion piece, making sure we're eliminating food deserts.
- 35:22We still have areas where they don't have good access to food or transportation for that.
- 35:27And then that social community context, again, the second chance opportunities,
- 35:31but having community resources available for individuals and families,
- 35:35making sure they understand they're out there and how can they be engaged.
- 35:38And decreasing isolation of older adults, also very critical.
- 35:43And we saw that also during the pandemic where that cognitive decline was happening
- 35:47so rapidly for them. But we see that with folks at all ages.
- 35:51The downstream is the flip side of it. People who can't afford the rent or mortgage.
- 35:562019, Bexar County, this is before the pandemic, evicted 13,000 families,
- 36:02not individuals, but families that included children.
- 36:04Imagine that trauma of seeing all of your worldly possessions being put out
- 36:09on the front lawn and you've been kicked out and a lot put on your home because you couldn't afford it.
- 36:14So that, you know, stopped during the pandemic, but it has been rising again.
- 36:18I don't have today's numbers, but they have pretty much gone back up to before.
- 36:22That being homeless and near homeless, and we have that point in time,
- 36:26count every year on homeless, but that doesn't include folks that they don't
- 36:30see living in their cars or that are couch surfing, or that we have multiple
- 36:34families sharing homes together in some families, but a lot of times not related to each other,
- 36:39but that's the only way they can manage at this point in time.
- 36:42Too many people are unemployed or underemployed, and that also means without
- 36:46benefits, so generally without health insurance, without paid time off.
- 36:51So if they get sick or need to go to an appointment, they don't get paid. All of that adds up here.
- 36:56Not being able to build wealth, which I talked about, is incredibly important.
- 37:01Continually relying on food pantries.
- 37:03We see intergenerational families relying on food pantries, relying on public housing.
- 37:09And our public housing system is set up that if you now get to a point where
- 37:14through job training or supports, you are able to earn a little more that could
- 37:18kick you out of your public assistance, which includes your home.
- 37:22So we see generations of families also living in public housing because we don't
- 37:27work with them to actually create a system where they can safely and easily
- 37:31transition out to manage on their own without it.
- 37:34And then wanted to emphasize again back to the importance of reading.
- 37:39In our prison system today in the United States.
- 37:42The average reading level is below fourth grade.
- 37:46And I talked about the importance of third grade reading level being a key support
- 37:51to help people thrive and succeed to graduate from high school and beyond.
- 37:55And so when you compare that then to those who are in prison,
- 38:00many of those, you know, one have been victims of abuse themselves growing up.
- 38:04Two cannot read and cannot function, had dropped out of school,
- 38:08don't have other means to support themselves.
- 38:10And we have what we call the school to prison pipeline where we are investing
- 38:14in our prison system, which we pay more per day in the United States for people
- 38:19in prison than we do per day for a child in our public school system.
- 38:23We are investing after the fact rather than investing up front to help these
- 38:28child succeed and thrive in school.
- 38:30And over 85 percent of our low income families and particularly children of
- 38:36color are in our public schools, not our private schools. And so we have to
- 38:41ensure that we have the right investments there up front.
- 38:43And that ties into the education piece, making sure kids are not dropping out
- 38:48of high school and middle school as well.
- 38:50Some don't even make it to high school, which means they don't have paths to
- 38:54viable careers down the road.
- 38:56They don't have basic skills that they need, including critical thinking skills.
- 39:00The health care, we talked about the chronic health care issues.
- 39:04Seeking health care later, lack of health literacy.
- 39:07And then on that mental health side, when you look at that, a lot of times we
- 39:11have people in our prisons that have mental health issues or substance abuse
- 39:15issues that have led to mental health issues, childhood trauma that have led to that as well.
- 39:19And so we have that revolving door with our prisons and mental health, too.
- 39:23That neighborhood environment, I gave a bunch of examples on that already.
- 39:27And then the same thing with social and community context.
- 39:30We know our neighborhoods that are the poorest socioeconomically.
- 39:34We also know where our teen pregnancies are, where our gang activity,
- 39:38where our substance abuse, where our crime rates are.
- 39:40They all overlap in those same areas, which means that they are struggling communities,
- 39:46a lot of toxic activities going on as opposed to what can we do to help strengthen them.
- 39:53So I want to now flip the script a little bit and show this interrelationship
- 39:57between social terms of health and the impact of adverse childhood experiences or childhood trauma.
- 40:03And I want to emphasize that ACEs can affect anybody at any socioeconomic strata.
- 40:09Absolutely. Just like domestic violence. But ACEs disproportionately affects
- 40:13those at the lower end of the socioeconomic strata who are least equipped and
- 40:18have the fewest access to resources to be able to deal with those.
- 40:21It could have started with historical trauma.
- 40:23I gave some examples in that past slide. But regardless that adverse child experience
- 40:29or experiences occur, if you've been through the training, as you know,
- 40:32it can cause some epigenetic rewiring of the brain.
- 40:35These children are adapting to survive in that dangerous world that they're
- 40:38living in that could affect their social, emotional,
- 40:41cognitive functioning, could cause them later on to adopt the same health risks
- 40:45and behaviors that they experienced or were exposed to, which then could cause,
- 40:50you know, lead to higher risk of diseases, disabilities,
- 40:53struggles to engage socially with others, and then ultimately to early death.
- 40:59So with that, you know, here are examples of average childhood experiences.
- 41:03We haven't had this training yet.
- 41:05We see these with those that we serve, unfortunately.
- 41:08And then with that, you know, ACEs can have lasting effects on health behaviors
- 41:13and long-term, you know, life potential.
- 41:16And a lot of times we see that, you know, where, you know, people are born and
- 41:20raised has a huge effect on their lifespan.
- 41:23The same thing with ACEs. There could be up to a 20-year more difference in
- 41:27life expectancy, and the data clearly shows this.
- 41:29This is a slide for the CDC, and they show a lot of direct correlations to specific diseases.
- 41:35Brain science research, just quickly going through that, that,
- 41:39you know, they're showing that the impact of toxic stress versus nurturing based
- 41:43on the, you know, experiences that a child is going through and at what stage in life as a child.
- 41:48And as we know, brains continue to evolve and mold through their mid-20s,
- 41:52and that nature versus nurture, those environmental factors that layer into
- 41:57what is going on in the developing child's brain and how that can affect how
- 42:01they're going to be as an adult.
- 42:04We can see a lot of this. We see this with our clients that we serve,
- 42:07our children, families, adults.
- 42:09You might see this with your children as well. And there's risk then of having
- 42:12a diagnosis that's a mental health diagnosis when it's actually behavior health
- 42:17tied back to the impact of the ACEs that they have been experiencing.
- 42:22Effects of high ACEs go across the lifespan. Here's a few examples here.
- 42:26But you can see it in children.
- 42:28You can see it in entire families. You have cognitive functioning, being able to interact.
- 42:32If you know that's happened, it's understanding, you know, the extra layering
- 42:36of support and communication and how to best respond to them without re-triggering,
- 42:41but being able to help them put that point in time back in the past while they're
- 42:46trying to deal with what they're going through now and be able to move forward in a more positive way.
- 42:51And the research shows, you know, all of these kinds of things as well.
- 42:55Those with zero to three ACEs, with all else, you know, being out there,
- 42:59more likely to be on the left side of the scale for a more higher risk doesn't mean they will,
- 43:04but higher risk if they don't have that buffering support here and mitigation
- 43:09to be ending up with these kinds of risk.
- 43:11And again, we see this with the clients that we serve.
- 43:14You might be seeing this with your patients too.
- 43:17Responding to chronic stress when you have those higher executive functioning
- 43:21skills, able to manage, you know, and self-regulate, be able to adjust your potions, et cetera.
- 43:27Otherwise, you know, if you're struggling with the effects, you might be triggered pretty quickly.
- 43:31You might either react in a very angry way, be able to not be able to sit still
- 43:35or really disassociate at the opposite end here.
- 43:39From there, it's working to build resiliency. You know, there is hope out there for it.
- 43:43Early childhood to later childhood to adult learning. I don't have time to go
- 43:47into a lot of that, but it gives you a few things here to think about.
- 43:50And then from there, I want to go back to the SDOH because ACEs is a component of that.
- 43:58But here are some tools that you can use that are out there.
- 44:02The CMS ACH tool, Accountable Care Health Tool is available for you.
- 44:08That is an approved tool.
- 44:09The PREPARE tool, the American Academy of Family Practitioners also has a tool out there.
- 44:16And there's a few others. Those are ones that can help you assess SDOH with
- 44:21your own program, and I'll talk about why in a moment.
- 44:23And then working with community partners that are doing the work outside of
- 44:27your practice, outside of the clinic or hospital that you're in,
- 44:30because they're the ones that can then follow up and work with the SDOH issues.
- 44:34So I work with social services organizations or CBOs, community-based.
- 44:39Most of them are deep-rooted, grass-rooted. They know the individuals,
- 44:43families, and neighborhoods they serve. Many of them come from that same background as well.
- 44:47They are working to address one or more SDOH barriers or challenges already.
- 44:52They're experts in their fields with the work that they do.
- 44:55They also work to be voices or advocates or amplify the voices of the populations
- 44:59they serve, many of them who haven't been able to do that in the past.
- 45:03They also tend to be very efficient in making maximum use of their funding and
- 45:07at navigating multiple systems in our society and communities here.
- 45:11So why do we need to code for social terms of health? One, since 2015,
- 45:16they have been available.
- 45:17I've given Delia a sheet that she'll give to you that talks about SCOH.
- 45:22It talks about the specific codes out there. And in that, the TIN codes and
- 45:27have a lot of subcodes out there, they are updated every six months.
- 45:30So there's more being added that you can review and access.
- 45:33But with that, you get better care coordination, better referrals and support
- 45:38for your vulnerable patient populations that otherwise you wouldn't know were an issue.
- 45:42So you might have a family that's living in their car, but if you don't know
- 45:46that, then you don't know the impact or they don't have a refrigerator.
- 45:49So they can't refrigerate their meds or they can't afford their meds.
- 45:53So they're either not buying it or they're diluting it or they're struggling
- 45:55to show up to appointments because of transportation issues or child care, etc.
- 46:00And the list goes on. You can also have better tracking of your patient health
- 46:04outcomes to see of what supports are being provided in the community for them
- 46:08are now helping improve your outcomes as well.
- 46:11We're doing a program with UHS, and we've been seeing clear outcomes and improvements
- 46:16with the work we're doing with them, also with community first.
- 46:19Also with coding, you can work on improving delayed access to items here that
- 46:25I have listed here that could have either been prevented or could have been
- 46:28less resource intensive.
- 46:30You can also look at correlations between SDOH and high-cost claims.
- 46:34You have a lot of frequent flyers who are being readmitted regularly or frequent ER visits, etc.
- 46:42And then as of January of this year, healthcare systems, according to CMS,
- 46:46have to have a process in place for screening for SDOH.
- 46:50And some of those tools, all of those tools that I list are the ones that are
- 46:53acceptable tools in doing so.
- 46:55And then what do you do about it? And that's the linking out here.
- 46:58This is the form that I gave to Delia that she's going to share with you as a PDF.
- 47:03And with that then is, is how do you work to prevent these negative downstream effects?
- 47:08One, we need to continue to establish or advocate for those policies,
- 47:12laws, ordinances, regs that work to positively influence social and economic
- 47:16conditions, those that support changes in individual behavior,
- 47:19and thus can improve health for large numbers of people.
- 47:23And very key is how we can sustain it over time.
- 47:26Two, the work that we're all doing right now is what can we do to improve those
- 47:30conditions where people are born, raised, lower, play, and age to really create
- 47:34that healthier family, that healthier community, healthier workforce, et cetera.
- 47:38What can we do to include improved collaborations? And that means the upstream,
- 47:42downstream healthcare systems with education systems, with CBOs,
- 47:46with government, with business, et cetera.
- 47:49Making sure we're doing research to show what is working, what's not.
- 47:53What can we do to improve upstream health while we're dealing with downstream
- 47:56effects, and then fund appropriately to those orgs and those areas that really
- 48:01show that demonstrated improvement in long-term health outcomes.
- 48:04Because at the end of the day, we wanna see this, you know, children on that
- 48:08top path, a lot of supports at every stage of life.
- 48:11So they end up becoming strong, successful adults, breaking whatever challenges
- 48:16or barriers they were born into and have a long, healthy, successful life.
- 48:20The bottom one is the ones that we see too often, and then they struggle.
- 48:24They aren't supported, they end up dropping out of school at some point,
- 48:28not having a viable career path.
- 48:29If they're alive at 40 or 50 years old, they're more often had potentially run-ins
- 48:35with the law, no strong employment, strong challenges with social engagement,
- 48:41a lot of health issues, and potentially continue that cycle with their own children.
- 48:46And we want to see thriving communities that work together and help each other,
- 48:50not toxic communities with all that comes with that.
- 48:53And with that, I'm going to stop
- 48:55sharing my slide now and answer any questions that you all might have.
- 49:00All right. If you have questions for Mary, you can either put them in the chat
- 49:03or unmute or raise your hand.
- 49:07And I can tell you this was a very high level overview.
- 49:11I was really trying to give you a taste of understanding a little bit about
- 49:16the impact of social and social health,
- 49:18the impact of adverse childhood experiences, how they interrelate,
- 49:22how you may be seeing those in your patients without even realizing it,
- 49:27and things that you can think about to be able to address them moving forward.
- 49:32Mary, I had one question, which is so often the structural barriers you talked
- 49:36about, particularly the digital divide and transportation, can make it hard
- 49:42for us to make those connections to the community agencies.
- 49:46And so there's also a request for you to talk a little bit about your agency.
- 49:50So maybe can you talk a little bit about family service and how you guys specifically
- 49:54address those barriers in connecting families from identifying the issue to
- 50:00connecting them with y'all?
- 50:01Absolutely. So we actually are structured on the Healthy People Framework.
- 50:06So I've got over 30 programs and services across all phases of life.
- 50:11So we have, I'll just go through the lifespan. We have Early Head Start and Head Start.
- 50:16And then with that, it's not just for the children. We assess the whole families.
- 50:20We use the CMS Accountable Care Tool in our assessment of all of our clients,
- 50:26along with the ACEs, one of the ACEs tools, so we can understand those needs and barriers.
- 50:31With that, we also have programs in elementary, middle, and high school to help
- 50:35children who are at risk of dropping out or struggling to be able to stay in and thrive.
- 50:40And then we have adult learning programs, workforce development to help with
- 50:44job training, either with our own programs or linkages to the various universities.
- 50:49And we work to find scholarships or funding also for other job training programs out there.
- 50:55We do economic stability. We have financial counseling and coaching,
- 50:59not just literacy, because we work with folks who really need one-on-one help.
- 51:03They don't know what a budget is and they struggle. And I talked about some examples there.
- 51:07And then, you know, with the health and healthcare, we have behavior health
- 51:11counseling for children and families.
- 51:13You all actually refer to some
- 51:15of your residents have already been referring to us. We have programs.
- 51:18We're in the Robert B. Green Clinic. We work with UHS.
- 51:23We work with a lot of different entities. So we deal with all aspects of behavioral health.
- 51:27We have school-based health, as well as in our own sites, telehealth.
- 51:32We do home health as well for that. We have...
- 51:36Supervised visitation programs for those non-custodial parents that are court-ordered have to come in.
- 51:42We work with the juvenile justice kids that are referred to us through DFPS.
- 51:45We work with CPS clients also.
- 51:48I mean, we just have a whole host in that range here. We have an older adults
- 51:52program that we do for a state license to do personal care and homemaker services
- 51:56to help older adults be independent in their homes.
- 51:59We've got social and community engagement opportunities. We do parent strengthening.
- 52:03Parent engagement is parent strengthening because we work with a lot of very
- 52:07dysfunctional families that have just struggled.
- 52:09So, you know, we take for granted the idea of having dinner at home together,
- 52:14playing with your kids, talking with your kids, being there for your kids.
- 52:17You know, we work with parents who are just struggling or we work with foster
- 52:20parents who work with grandparents, raising grandkids, et cetera.
- 52:24And then we also have our community centers, you know, here we also we're in 14 counties.
- 52:29So we're, we have community centers here and in Crystal City and sites in Uvalde
- 52:33as well. We've been there over a quarter century.
- 52:35And then we have an SCOH case management specific program.
- 52:40Just trying to think. We've got Team Tech Center and we just have a multitude
- 52:44of programs with the services that we provide.
- 52:47And to your question about how to help people with these transportation barriers,
- 52:51for us, we either go to their homes with our work. We provide bus passes.
- 52:57We get discounted passes from VIA that we can give bus passes to people for them.
- 53:01If we can link them with other programs with
- 53:05our family strengthening programs you know we work in various schools
- 53:08so we help to build networks of relationships
- 53:11for families that otherwise aren't connecting so that now they can build some
- 53:16self-sustainability within their own community so that now they've got a family
- 53:20network of people sharing similar struggles and how can they work together and
- 53:23help each other and help each other with the kids or transportation etc so those are a few ways there,
- 53:30Thank you. I know you guys all do so much, and it's really amazing if anyone
- 53:33has a chance to visit your neighborhood center.
- 53:36That was very cool to see all the different agencies that you collaborate with.
- 53:40Dr. Robinson had a similar question around transportation, which I think you
- 53:43partly answered, but just systemically, do you have any thoughts about addressing
- 53:48the lack of a reliable public transportation system in San Antonio?
- 53:53So for one, I'm actually from San Antonio, but I'm an Army brat.
- 53:58My dad was an Army pediatrician, by the way, pediatric allergist.
- 54:01And then as in my own career as an army healthcare administrator, moved around the world.
- 54:05So I have been blessed to enjoy great public transportation in many,
- 54:09many places. San Antonio is not one of them.
- 54:12And it's very unfortunate. You know, we actually had a streetcar system back
- 54:16in the 1920s and they took it all out when they focused on cars for everybody,
- 54:20which is, you know, is not adequate.
- 54:22And so, you know, the via bus system is trying to improve and find ways.
- 54:27We had a chance over a decade ago to actually put in a transportation system,
- 54:34a light rail system for us here in San Antonio.
- 54:37Unfortunately, the decision makers were not the ones that used the system or would have used it.
- 54:41So that voice was not represented and we lost that opportunity again.
- 54:45I don't know if we'll ever get it back, but that really needs to happen down the road.
- 54:49We are the largest city, seven largest cities in the United States and the largest
- 54:53city by far that does not have a strong transportation system, a light rail system.
- 54:57So that is something that, you know, when we talk, I talked about what can we
- 55:01do to change the negative downstream effects?
- 55:03We've got to work on improving laws, regulations, policies, ordinances,
- 55:08et cetera, that will help, you know, equalize opportunities for everybody.
- 55:12Because this is a disparity that ties into health as well.
- 55:16So, you know, that's just a future voice that we all have to come together on,
- 55:20even if we might not be the ones that would use it that much, we need to be.
- 55:24Because those who are older, those who are poor, those who are disabled,
- 55:26those are all folks that rely on public transportation or they don't get around
- 55:31at all and their world is very small.
- 55:34Then there's a question about school vouchers. This is, it says,
- 55:37how do you think school vouchers would impact the public education system that
- 55:40serves the most vulnerable children?
- 55:42Great question. I try to stay out of politics, but I can tell you this will
- 55:45be a huge detriment for our state if that were to come to play.
- 55:49Because primarily those that use the private schools right now,
- 55:53they're ones that had already made that choice and can afford it or get scholarships
- 55:58already through a lot of those schools.
- 56:00And as I mentioned, the public school system is where over 85% of our children
- 56:07go, especially our low income families here.
- 56:10And many of them still would remain in the public school system.
- 56:13And because the school vouchers would come out of what is already being funded
- 56:19for public education, that means, and we are funded per day.
- 56:23It's based on child attendance. So if we have fewer students in schools,
- 56:27that means less funding for those school districts.
- 56:30We're seeing that already just coming out of the pandemic where there's a lot
- 56:34of kids that still did not go back into those school systems.
- 56:36We've seen that with movement, with the growth of charter schools.
- 56:40And when you look at the accountability requirements and the certifications
- 56:46required for teachers, you know, in public schools versus charter schools versus private schools,
- 56:52what people don't realize is that we are not holding everybody to the same standard.
- 56:57The public schools are held to the highest standard and the most visible,
- 57:00but they don't see what's going on in the charter schools or in the private schools.
- 57:05In addition, private schools can select who they choose to admit.
- 57:10So in there, kids that have disabilities, you know, kids that are struggling
- 57:15are not ones that are likely to be admitted.
- 57:17That's already been shown in many of the charter schools out there.
- 57:21You know, those are the kids that stay in the public school system.
- 57:23And we already know that we don't have adequate supports for those with disabilities
- 57:28and supports in Texas and the public school.
- 57:31So there is a huge risk with the school voucher system.
- 57:35And when they looked at it being implemented in a couple of other states,
- 57:38they are seeing the research is starting to show the detrimental effects on
- 57:43those kids not having enough funding to be able to meet their needs.
- 57:48And Texas already was one of the lowest funded states per student in our public school system.
- 57:54And it's just getting worse. So we need to be a voice is my recommendation on
- 57:59helping to ensure that our public schools continue to have sufficient funding
- 58:03and more than sufficient funding, because that's what will serve our children,
- 58:08you know, on the health side, but on the on the financial side to be able to
- 58:12be prepared for the workforce, either through college training,
- 58:16career development, etc.
- 58:18Right. Thank you very much, Mary. You really covered a lot of ground in a short amount of time.
- 58:23I know that was a challenge to fit it all in. We are at the end of our time.
- 58:27So thank you one more time for speaking. And this concludes our Pediatric Grand
- 58:31Rounds. Thank you, and my pleasure.
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