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Tarik Skubal on trade rumors, Cy Young W, Postseason retrospective · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Todd bother boy Buster Only tweeted this in the morning
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  Speaker 1: from a high ranking executive on the Tigers strategy regarding
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  Speaker 1: Trek Scooble, they could wait and be pretty confident they'll
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  Speaker 1: get as much in trade return at the deadline next
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  Speaker 1: summer as they would now, assuming there's no injury. He's
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  Speaker 1: got that kind of impact. Now, Buster added, how it
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  Speaker 1: depends where the Tigers are around that time period. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the obvious one here is people can say the
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  Speaker 1: value is going to be similar. I agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: If the Tigers were going to trade him at the deadline,
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  Speaker 1: I think he would hold just as much value because
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  Speaker 1: he'd be going to a contender for the stretch run
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  Speaker 1: and he could be the difference between a team winning
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  Speaker 1: a World Series and not. But if you're Detroit and
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  Speaker 1: you're sniffing playoff range, you're gonna trade him. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you're moving him, it's got to be now. Chances
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  Speaker 1: are the Tigers are going to be contenders this season
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  Speaker 1: for a playoff spot.
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  Speaker 2: You can't trade him.
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  Speaker 1: If you're holding a wild card, you're going to eight
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  Speaker 1: Trek's scouble down the stretch.
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all. And like they trade him. It's
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  Speaker 3: pretty much over for them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but also not just for them in their season.
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  Speaker 1: What about for your fans? Hey, guys, we rebuilt for
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  Speaker 1: a while, We've had a nice little two year run
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  Speaker 1: of the postseason. Now we're in position for a playoff
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  Speaker 1: spot again. Who rugged you trading Scooble. That doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: any sense.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that.
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  Speaker 4: It's a hard decision you have to do.
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, you have to do it
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  Speaker 1: in the off season. If you're if you're a team
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  Speaker 1: that's wishy washy, or you might not be good, you
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  Speaker 1: can wait. They can't wait. They're gonna be good.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I would say they're gonna be one of
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  Speaker 3: those better teams next year. So yes, of course you're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna trade them if they're have in a playoff
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  Speaker 3: hunt or or one of the better teams in the division, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: what have you. If they're gonna be in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, shoot, maybe we should have traded on them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the school, but like that much will come back.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't see that. But yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: Buster has has a point here. It's now would probably
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  Speaker 3: be the best time to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to do it.
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  Speaker 4: If you're going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise, here's the thing, Kratz, you're just holding on to
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  Speaker 1: him and you're getting the compensation pick after the season
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  Speaker 1: ends if you guys don't come to terms on money,
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  Speaker 1: which he's definitely going to hit free agency if he
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  Speaker 1: stays with the Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny we're talking about him.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to join us in like forty five minutes
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  Speaker 1: or less actually on the show. So we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of this. Excited to have Trek join
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  Speaker 1: us on the show. We've talked to him multiple times
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  Speaker 1: here on FT and also, oh, we have a little
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  Speaker 1: something prepared for him before we introduce him. Okay, live
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  Speaker 1: studio audience today. Wow, Trek scooble back to backside, young
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  Speaker 1: award winner joining us right now.
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  Speaker 2: Happy birthday man, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 5: How you doing I'm doing well, Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Birthdays aren't cool anymore, you know, they're not really cool,
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  Speaker 5: especially in this sport. You don't want to get older,
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  Speaker 5: Not true, Not true when.
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  Speaker 3: You're like thirty, forty fifty. Now, when you hit the
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  Speaker 3: thirty range, the zeros are what counts am I.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like the zeros?
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want the zeros.
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  Speaker 3: But when the zero hits after after you know, twenties,
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  Speaker 3: when it hits thirty, then after that until it hits
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  Speaker 3: another zero. But I just turned whit didn't turn? I
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  Speaker 3: turned thirty nine last year. It's like thirty nine. Who
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  Speaker 3: cares about thirty nine?
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  Speaker 1: Well that you're talking to twenty nine right here? But okay,
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  Speaker 1: any plans, No, I feel like.
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  Speaker 5: I've been doing a lot recently, so probably just gonna
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  Speaker 5: make dinner at home. I think my wife will make
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  Speaker 5: some tacos or something like that and maybe open a
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  Speaker 5: bottle of wine. That's it cool?
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  Speaker 6: Is that your go to? Does she does she ask you?
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  Speaker 4: Do?
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  Speaker 6: I feel like wives, wives, like they pretty much do
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  Speaker 6: so much for you during the season that when it's
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  Speaker 6: the off season, it's like, alright, bro, like relax, Like
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  Speaker 6: we're gonna go out. Like does she ask you what
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  Speaker 6: you want for your birthday?
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  Speaker 5: She did, and I kind of gave her a like, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: I'm kind of tired of let's just hang out at
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  Speaker 5: home and getting bed early. You know, I feel like
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  Speaker 5: I've been traveling and doing stuff and let's just hang out,
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  Speaker 5: make dinner at home and do it that way.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, go ahead, No, No, is it tiring? Like you're
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  Speaker 6: the Sion? You want to Sion again? Obviously congratulations, but
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  Speaker 6: is it tiring? Because I heard Ryan Howard talked about
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  Speaker 6: Ryan Howard won the MVP and he goes, Dude, you
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  Speaker 6: get invited to every Tom Dick and Harry's like event, like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: come on, come and speak here. And then you still
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  Speaker 6: got the regular ones. You still got the one you're
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  Speaker 6: going to see at the BBWA, we still got you know,
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  Speaker 6: you were just at the MOB Awards. Does it get
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  Speaker 6: tiring or now that's your second year you're like, I
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  Speaker 6: know which ones to do and which ones not to Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think what happened was I mean, you go to Vegas,
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  Speaker 5: you win the cy Young Wednesday, and go out to
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  Speaker 5: eat and more extracurricular stuff, right, and you wake up
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  Speaker 5: the next day in kind of tough shape, and then
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  Speaker 5: you have the MLB Award show and then you go
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  Speaker 5: out after that and enjoy that night. And then one
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  Speaker 5: of my buddies' bachelor party was back in Scottsdale Friday
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  Speaker 5: and Saturday, so it was like four days of a
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  Speaker 5: lot of fun but at the same time, you kind
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  Speaker 5: of pay for it on the back end, you know,
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  Speaker 5: especially like that Monday that came around. I was hurt,
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  Speaker 5: and then I went up to Portland to do some
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  Speaker 5: stuff with Nike and just got back yesterday, and I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I'm I'm good for a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It just so happens to be my birthday today, But
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  Speaker 5: it's like I've done enough celebrating the last week to
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  Speaker 5: where I don't need to celebrate a birthday alight.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this out and shout out, Craig
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  Speaker 4: about how.
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  Speaker 3: Cool, how cool was that first off and how did
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  Speaker 3: you hit them? Because I struggled. I did good on
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  Speaker 3: one front, nine did bad. I'm back.
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  Speaker 4: I was back and forth with you couldn't use your driver.
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  Speaker 4: That's my problem.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't. That course is beautiful,
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  Speaker 5: like it's I mean, it's the nicest. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if golf gets much nicer than that course, right, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure there can be some like elevated
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  Speaker 5: tea boxes to make it maybe look, you know, more beautiful,
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  Speaker 5: but in terms of just nice golf, like that course
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  Speaker 5: has got to be up there or hold its own
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  Speaker 5: with every other course in the world. Like I just
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  Speaker 5: that's just my opinion on it. But it's tight and
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  Speaker 5: it's it's kind of target golf, and the greens are quick,
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  Speaker 5: so if you spray it like I do, it's not
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  Speaker 5: very conducive.
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  Speaker 4: To my style. But too.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Trek, I want to ask you about the Cy
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  Speaker 1: Young Awards. So leading up to the announcement, did you
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel like you had it in the bag
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  Speaker 1: or like genuinely did you feel like, all right, I
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  Speaker 1: look at the other numbers, the other colleagues in the
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  Speaker 1: sport that had great years, but I feel like I've
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  Speaker 1: got this or were you really sitting there like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I mean, I I knew I had
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  Speaker 5: a good year. Obviously, Crochet had a hell of a
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  Speaker 5: year two. I mean that's kind of who I thought
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  Speaker 5: the race was between was us two And you can
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  Speaker 5: make an argument either way. So it's not like I
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  Speaker 5: knew I had it in the bag, but I kind
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  Speaker 5: of figured I was going to win, you know, when
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  Speaker 5: the regular season ended, I was like, Okay, I think
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  Speaker 5: that just accomplished my second cy Young Award. But I
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  Speaker 5: mean Crochet what he had a hell of a season.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you what he was able to accomplish in
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  Speaker 5: Boston and Fenway. They just traded for him, extended him,
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  Speaker 5: kind of made him the face of that rotation and
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  Speaker 5: kind of the face of the team too. What he
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  Speaker 5: was able to do is nothing short of very impressive.
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  Speaker 5: And he's gonna, you know what we have in this battle,
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  Speaker 5: I think for the next however many years we're doing
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  Speaker 5: it and on the field. So he's a great, great player.
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  Speaker 5: He's got some of my favorite stuff. I bet he
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  Speaker 5: has the best stuff in the big league. It's just
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  Speaker 5: pure stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Side.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, he's a he's a great player.
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  Speaker 6: That was actually what I was going to ask you,
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  Speaker 6: because big leige players now is never at your level,
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  Speaker 6: but we're always looking at other big league players, like
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  Speaker 6: man I wish I could you know, have that swing path.
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  Speaker 6: Is there something that you look at Crochet and you're like,
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  Speaker 6: man I wish I had this of his?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, his like slider sweeper thing. I don't know what,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what he calls it, but it's like
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  Speaker 5: the it's that eighty four to eighty six mone hour
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  Speaker 5: slider that's got a ton of depth and a ton
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  Speaker 5: of glove side movement. That'd be the easiest pitch for
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  Speaker 5: me to add into my arsenal. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 5: have a pitch that does that. And my slider's hard.
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  Speaker 5: It's you know, anywhere from ninety to ninety two. If
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  Speaker 5: I had a breaking ball at eighty four to eighty
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  Speaker 5: six lefties, I think, I mean that with that weapon
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  Speaker 5: the lefties, you can't even put a lefty in the
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  Speaker 5: lineup against Crochet, You really can't. What's the way he
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  Speaker 5: throws a fastball and a slider, But yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 5: our fastballs are pretty similar. I actually love his change up.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't throw out a time, but I love his
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  Speaker 5: change up. And the reason he doesn't throw a change
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  Speaker 5: up is because he has a really good slider. So
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  Speaker 5: and he's got a cutter too. He kind of has
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  Speaker 5: a cutter that plays like my slider. And then he's
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  Speaker 5: got the good breaking ball. So I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 5: one that I would I would add for sure is that,
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  Speaker 5: like if he wants to call it a sweeper, we
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  Speaker 5: call it a sweeper. It's kind of like that hard slurve.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's really really good.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about pitch election and throwing pitchers. It seemed like
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  Speaker 3: this year, so you significantly went to the fastball and
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  Speaker 3: change up against lefties. Was there a cognizant effort of
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  Speaker 3: doing that or is that just a feel kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, ah, well, I'm feeling this today, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna throw that. But it just seemed like a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more this year it worked well, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think you know, in years past, there's always stuff
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  Speaker 5: you look at at end of seasons and stuff you
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  Speaker 5: want to you know, get better at. And for me,
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  Speaker 5: lefties striking out lefties. It's gonna sound weird, but I
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  Speaker 5: don't strike out lefties at the same rate I strike
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  Speaker 5: out righties like I just I punch out righties more.
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  Speaker 5: And that's because I think might change it more to righty.
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  Speaker 5: So we you know, I sat down with the team,
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  Speaker 5: our pitching coach, catchers and stuff and develop a plan
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  Speaker 5: to get lefties to punch out when I need him to,
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  Speaker 5: because they weren't slugging and there wasn't a ton of damage.
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  Speaker 5: But there's a lot of ground balls, and in certain
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  Speaker 5: situations you can't have a ground ball, you know, with
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  Speaker 5: a runner of third base and less than two outs,
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  Speaker 5: you have to be able to strike guys out. So
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  Speaker 5: as easy as it is to go sink or slider
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  Speaker 5: to lefties and just kind of get to the next hitter.
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  Speaker 5: There are certain scenarios where you know, Bellinger's in the
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  Speaker 5: box and he's a guy that doesn't punch against lefties,
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  Speaker 5: but I got to figure out how to punch belly
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  Speaker 5: with a run around third, and that was kind of
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  Speaker 5: upping force him and change up usage. I think that's
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of that's what I get missed to righty's
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  Speaker 5: and that's what I get missed to lefties. But it's
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  Speaker 5: hard not to fall in love with sinker slider when
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  Speaker 5: you know there's no damage and all they do is
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  Speaker 5: hit it into the ground. So like the worst thing
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  Speaker 5: that can happen is a single or maybe a down
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  Speaker 5: the line double or something like that. But you do
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  Speaker 5: need to be able to punch out left and adults.
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  Speaker 5: And that's kind of where the change up, the out
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  Speaker 5: take and change up usage was. Was uncomfortable thrown into
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  Speaker 5: lefties and they miss it and it kind of plays up.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why I kind of leaned on that pitch
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  Speaker 5: a little more this year.
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  Speaker 6: I have so many questions for you watching your games
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs, like different stuff from the playoffs, Like,
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  Speaker 6: I haven't seen anybody on the losing team that's dominated
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  Speaker 6: as much as you have. I mean, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 6: that in any other way than a compliment. Like when
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  Speaker 6: your team wins the World Series, it will be because
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  Speaker 6: you and your team have won the whole way, because
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  Speaker 6: you just have carried the Tigers the last two years.
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  Speaker 6: So I want to congratulate you for that. But I
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  Speaker 6: want to go directly to Game five. Tell me if
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  Speaker 6: I'm wrong, but I think you went six innings with
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  Speaker 6: thirteen punchies and.
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  Speaker 5: Gave up one run? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: One?
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  Speaker 6: Was it tough to sit there then for nine more
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  Speaker 6: innings and watch this team? Were you like were you
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  Speaker 6: trying to like move your shoulder around like that's another inning?
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  Speaker 6: Like like do you do you go back and do
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  Speaker 6: you think? Not second guessing, but do you think man
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  Speaker 6: if I had ten strikeouts but gone eight innings, would
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  Speaker 6: that have helped you?
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  Speaker 4: Know?
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  Speaker 6: What's your mindset in that moment? But also thinking about
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  Speaker 6: that game afterwards and since.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that game was, I mean it was. It was
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  Speaker 5: one of the greatest games in postseason history. Really in
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  Speaker 5: a winner go home Game five, Game seven type scenario,
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  Speaker 5: obviously we know runs are at a premium, especially in
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  Speaker 5: a game five game, especially against the manners. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to do what I can to keep our team
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  Speaker 5: in it and then just and limit runs with the
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  Speaker 5: run that I gave up was a frustrating run because
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  Speaker 5: it was like a kind of like a flare down
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  Speaker 5: the left field line double and Josh Naylor, being the
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  Speaker 5: guy that he is, he's I mean, he's a great
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  Speaker 5: baseball player. He knows it's loud. Steals third and the
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  Speaker 5: next one's f eight and we're down one zero in
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  Speaker 5: like the fourth inning or so. So I'm just trying
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  Speaker 5: to keep the game where it's at. And however I
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  Speaker 5: get outside get out. So obviously the strikeout was you know,
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  Speaker 5: my stuff was good that day, so the pitch coown's
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  Speaker 5: going to get up, you know, kind of regardless of
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  Speaker 5: what I was trying to do. That's and in the postseason,
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  Speaker 5: like you can't really pitch. I mean, you're pitching the contact,
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  Speaker 5: but at any point guys are gonna jump in and
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  Speaker 5: that could be the difference in the game, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just because every run is magnified, every out is magnified.
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  Speaker 5: So just trying to keep the game where it is
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  Speaker 5: and obviously, I think the strikeout was that. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: if you look at Game one against Cleveland, I also
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  Speaker 5: think I struck out fourteen, but I was able to
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  Speaker 5: pitch in the eighth just because they were really efficient strikeouts.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean the Manners are a good team. They slug,
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  Speaker 5: They really do slug. They had, you know, top five
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  Speaker 5: guys with twenty plus bombs, two with fifty plus. It's
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  Speaker 5: like that, I mean any at any point they can
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  Speaker 5: run the ball out of the yard. So just knowing
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  Speaker 5: the lineup, knowing the game, knowing the situation, knowing runs
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  Speaker 5: or at a premium, you just try to grind as
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  Speaker 5: best you can and every out it's it's even more
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  Speaker 5: draining than a regular season out. You know, one out
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  Speaker 5: the postseason feels like an inning in the regular season,
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  Speaker 5: just based on how meaningful all the game is. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean later later into that game, it's like the
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  Speaker 5: eleventh inning, I had kind of come down from the
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  Speaker 5: adrenaline and stuff, and I'm in the dugout and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if they'd let me re enter this game,
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  Speaker 5: or if there's some little changes that we could to use,
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  Speaker 5: just because it's been like, I mean, this game was
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  Speaker 5: so long. There's two seventh inning stretches during the game.
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  Speaker 5: It was I mean it was a ton of fun.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously we come out on the wrong side of it,
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  Speaker 5: but just watching that game and living that game, it
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  Speaker 5: was it was almost worse. It was worse just watching
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: it than playing in it, you know, just because you
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  Speaker 5: have no say or any control of what's going on
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  Speaker 5: out there.
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  Speaker 6: All right, because you brought that up, I'm gonna jump
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  Speaker 6: ahead to my other question and get back to the
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: Guardians question. My question is did you watch the World Series?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Did you see what Yamamoto did and could you
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: have done that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I mean that's what he did. I mean not only
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: like just throwing back to back days, but also the performances,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: like the performance and the outings that he strung together
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: were incredible all postseason long.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Without that guy, I don't they don't win the World Series,
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: you know. And I would love to sit here and
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: say I'd be ready to go, you know, game one
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: against Cleveland and Game three. I was ready to go
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: Game three, you know, I was like, hey, I'm good
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: to pitch if we need it. But back to back,
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, in that situation, you put me in his shoes.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna argue as best I can to
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: be out there and then be thrown in that situation
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: for sure, whether those decisions are made, you know, you
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: got to look out for the health of players too.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I would love to be in that
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: situation though, and I know I would do everything I
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: could to petition my way into the game. They I mean,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: they needed him obviously the game goes into extras and stuff,
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: But I can't see myself sitting on the side and
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: not at least giving it a go. I don't know.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: The impressive part was it wasn't just back to back.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: His stuff was as good as it was the day before,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: you know. And I'm like, if I throw one hundred
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: pitches the next day, I don't know if I'm going
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: to be ninety seven to one hundred. You know, I
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: could get out there and maybe throw ninety two ninety four,
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: But he was ninety five to ninety eight coming out
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: ninety five to ninety eight with his splitter. That's great. Yeah,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, that was incredibly impressive. I would love to
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: be in that situation to to petition to be able
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: to go out there and pitch. Just see what happened
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: that in that role? Man it game seven. Uh, you
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: got nothing to lose, just give it me.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: Got Yeah, for sure, you got a bunch of You
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: got a bunch of bachelor parties and golf outings to
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: do in the offseason. That's the only thing you got
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: to do some put some ice on it and keep going.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: I'll take you back to the Cleveland game. And because Aj'
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: is not on here, I'm sure sure he would ask
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: you the flip between the legs was the fact that
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: you flipped between the legs and it became an air
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: which led to another dribbler, which led to another dribbler.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: What was more distracting to come back from the fact
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: that they weren't hitting you but they were still scoring runs,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: or the fact that you made that play and you
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: were like you even how I don't know if you
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: have a huge glove or what it is, but you
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: always hold your glove one certain way, and you were like,
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: well was I doing? Like how did you recoup? How
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: did you regroup after that play in such a big moment?
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: I think I mean that whole inning was very not
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: one ball was hit to the infield dirt, which is incredible,
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: and they scored two runs, which is insane too. It's
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: just the game of baseball. That's just you know, that's baseball.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: But I mean that play, you're just trying to get
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: an out any way you can and they end up throwing.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: I think they tried to bunt four times in a row,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: four at bats in a row. That and obviously the
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Rye situation happens that inning too, and that was probably
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: the most I don't know if like rattling experience, but
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: just like you don't even feel like you're playing the
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: game anymore. It's like you get when when you see
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: something happen like that live, and especially when you feel
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: responsible for it. It it makes the game not as
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: much about playing baseball, but it kind of humanizes it
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: in a way to where it's like, hey, is this
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: guy gonna be okay? Like in life, not just the
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: game of Baseball's he actually gonna be okay? And I
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: think that was probably the toughest part of that inning,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: was just like I have no idea what's going on
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: with him. He gives the thumbs up, but like, is
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: he really okay? Especially when you talk about like that
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: part of the face, Like I mean, you're talking about
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: if it hits him somewhere different, like it he could
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: go blind in one eye and now it's sudden his
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: career is over and I have to live with that
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the rest of my life. So that that was one
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: of those situations that was pretty tough for me as
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: far as between the legs. I mean, I've tried it
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: twice and it hasn't worked twice, And when you're out
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: there competing, you're like, hey, don't do that again. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I might do it again, and AJ's not going to
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: be a fan of that. He's like, hey, because I
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: did it in Miami. He's like, hey, never do that again.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, like no doubt if it
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: worked it it would have worked. If it doesn't, I'm
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: not going to do that again. And then you get
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: that situation and you do it again. So yeah, I
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: I've always you know, I was talking to torqu and
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: like I did third times at time, It's got to
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: work one of these times. So yeah, I mean he
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: was trying to make it out. But that whole inning
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: was was was wild for sure.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: My question to you is you had a little interaction
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: with with a fan the other day, Rock and I
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: think it was a white Yankee had if I recall
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: remember that video, the guy came up to you asking
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: me to sign it. We're showing right now. I'm curious,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: you know, the Yankee guy. I'm curious why you just
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: wouldn't just sign it. Isn't that something?
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. If I'm not trying in any hat.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: That's not a Detroit hat. It just so happened to
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: be that was a Yankee hat. I'm like, you got
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: nothing else on you, you know, It's just I don't know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: It's uh, it was a funny interaction too. I mean
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: that guy took it well.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And you can see all these fans they want you
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to come to their team, and you hear all these
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: rumors and speculations going on, and it's got to be hard.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: You know, you're a really good picture.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, every other day
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: it seemed like there's a trade talk about you going
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: somewhere else. Man, it's got to play a little bit
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: in your mind about this whole scenario.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt. I think with the way social media is,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: it's hard not to see things about yourself especially when
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: it's talking about trades and kind of all those hypotheticals.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: But you know, at the end of the day, it
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: doesn't really matter. It's not going to impact who I
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: am day to day basis. It's not going to impact,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: you know, the way I'm gonna work out or the
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: way I'm gonna throw or prepare to get my body
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: ready to go for another season. So it's it's all
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: out of my control, you see it. I think as
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: a player, you don't really like, I mean, unless you
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: want to be traded, but like that's a whole different situation.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: But it's not like I want to be traded, So
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: it is it does kind of like, you know, hey,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: why am I in this? Why am I in these
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: conversations to begin with? But at the end of the day,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: it doesn't It doesn't really impact anything that I'm going
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: to do day to day, and I try to just
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: stay off of it and I look at it. I mean,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: that's kind of how I've handled it at the trade
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: deadlines in years past, and it seems to work for me.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Who does it bother the most? Because like, I'm sure
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: there's family that they read it and I remember telling
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: and I know Todd said it like family, stay off
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: of Twitter, stay off of the and it's all that stuff.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Who is the toughest time with it?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Your wife?
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Family, Like, and do you have to tell them? Don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: talk to me about it. I just saw it on Twitter.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Can't even go on Twitter without you know, seeing anything
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: about it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think my wife gets it. I
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: think that she's pretty good about it. I think it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: probably like my mom and my dad like, hey, where
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: are you gonna play next year? It's like I'm a
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I'm a tiger. That's kind of how you guys will
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: find out at the same time I find out if
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: I'm getting actually traded. So I'm like, don't look into
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: any of the stuff that you see. Definitely, don't comment,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: don't don't take to social media and say anything. Please,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: don't make a story out of nothing. So it's probably
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: my family more so than me. But my wife gets it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: You know, my wife gets it. She's you know, there's
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: not a ton of factor truth behind any of these things,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: especially I mean even contract stuff. It's like I don't
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: really know where they come up with these numbers or
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: that narrative they create these NARRAI is it's I mean,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: it's part of the media job.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: I mean I get it. But if you're you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: in my circle, you know that that's kind of how
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: we handle things, or how I'm going to handle things.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It's content, and you know, the next thing that pops up,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: it runs wild. People love to follow it, and it's annoying,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: of course for you to be part of it because
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it involves your name, but for everyone else, it's like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it keeps baseball at the forefront, you know, two hours
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a day.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: But you know, I get it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's it's the media's job
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: to create narratives and to create content for for baseball.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I get it. I'm not gonna sit here and complain,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: but it's just not there's not a ton I get it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I get it. It's
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: it's the job of the game. And yeah, I'm completely
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: on board with it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask you a question about
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: another picture in the big who actually just got traded
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: because they did bring up your name the other day.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: It's not like the very beginning of your career was perfection.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: We've gone over that, right, You weren't a top draft pick.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You dealt with some injuries earlier in your career.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Now look at you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So we've been backing up a guy like Grayson Rodriguez
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: who gets traded from the Orioles. He's twenty six years old.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: You've seen him pitch and his stuff. We haven't seen
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: him a ton yet. Right, He's given us two seasons
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty istionings each and then he
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: missed this past season. We have him on the show tomorrow.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: He's got a big personality to what would your advice
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: be to someone like that? And also for fans to understand,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you know how it can sometimes take some time to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: figure out things and also just figure out your body.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: For someone like grayce And who said he had been
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: dealing with I think it was some type of debrim
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: in or chips or something. He just got cleaned up
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and it had been a problem for three four years.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think his stuff is definitely, I mean,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: it's as good as it gets in this game, right,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: there's not you know, it's ninety six to one hundred.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: It's a good change up, it's a good slider. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: think he's got a bigger break ball too. He might
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: even have two different versions of the heater. But I
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: mean my advice is just figure out a routine for
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: him that works to keep him on the field, you know.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: And that's that's what changed my career was you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: I had a rough start to my career. I pitched,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: I was healthy until twenty twenty two. I pitched, but
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: I just wasn't really like my routine wasn't really me.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: I guess I felt like I was a little too
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: run down on every day I pitched, or you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I was probably worried about a lot of the wrong things,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: or you know, I might have worked too hard, you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: to where your body's kind of always in the red.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: You never feel like ready to go, or you feel
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: tired earlier into games and you should be. So that's
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: something that when I got hurt came back rehab my routine,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: I kind of changed a lot of things and changed
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: when I work out, changed you know, how I throw
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: throwing programs, all that stuff, ploball stuff, and you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: tinkered with things through that process of when those eleven
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: months were huge for me and established a really good routine.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: And now that I've been on the field the last
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: two and a half years. I mean, you can argue that,
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: like it's been the most productive pitcher in baseball the
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: last two and a half seasons coming back from injuries.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: So I think this the routine matters a ton. You know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: figuring out your body matters a ton, and and hopefully
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: you know the bones first. Stuff that he's dealing with
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: right now is a quick fix and you can kind
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: of hammer back your routine and get back to feeling
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: normal and healthy. And when he's healthy and pitching, I
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: think his stuff is plenty fine. So you know that
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: he's going to be a good pitcher in this game,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: you know when he's on the field, And I think
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: that that's what matters. At least that would be my
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: advice is figure out what works for you treatment wise,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: routine wise, nutrition wise, and just play the game, because
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: when you're out there on the mound, the stuff is
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: as good as it gets in the big leagues.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah, good stuff, man, Well, good catching up.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Congrats again, Happy birthday, Congrats on back
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to back SIG Awards. Enjoy a little downtime and rest
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in the holidays and the whole deal. Uh and then yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: we'll catch in in January at the awards.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I appreciate you, guys.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I felt like this was fitting for today.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: So we write for the Roar blog, which you can
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: look up and we'll post a link on some socials.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: We wrote building the perfect MLB starting Pitcher And the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: face of this article is the guy that we just
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: spoke to, and that's Trek Scouble. Okay, we went off
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: stuff Plus and we wrote a little bit about the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: top pitches by stuff Plus indicate just like best pitch
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: stuff wise right, treks Google, best fastball, Trek's Google best
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: change up. You got those two right off the jump. Okay,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: best sweeper Garrett Crochet for sure, or slider which he
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: just said he did. Best curveball by stuff Plus was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Framber Baldees and best location plus hitting his spots. I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw down on the sheet already, correct.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Chaz Zarta was on there.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Really Yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Interesting, So there's your there's your perfect picture from twenty
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: twenty five. If you're going off that's that. I know
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: it's something only sat out there, but it's a good one.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It's more modern statistic. We like it, and you can
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: check out that article on the Roar blog, part of
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the bet MGM blog that we contribute to. It's called
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: building the Perfect MLB Starting Picture. We took starting pictures
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: so we didn't look at pitches from relievers.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: You know what else, it does the same thing we're
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: talking about Grayson Rodriguez this whole time.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: They're monsters.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: I guess Hazel's Zardo's not that as big, but yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: they're the mom stars. Like Crochet is a avatar scooball,
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, aj sat next to him, He's.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Like, good night. This is a big dude. That's the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: other thing that's, oh my god.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't we don't need we don't.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: We don't need that.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: That's that's I'm so glad I don't hit anymore. But
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: like that's when we talk about like eyes have potential
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: and like could be elite pitchers. Size matters, it does.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, mass equals gas Ce Sabathio.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: M h Fan Ravaldas ain't small. He's a big boy too,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean he's not as tall as.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Tall, but he's he's small, a big doll.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got he's got to build.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I think my guess is he's probably like six feet Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: he's listed five eleven to thirty.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Whoa, that's fair Jesus.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's up for grabs. He's a free agent.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: We're swinging it around looking at betem jam futures for
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the American League representative in the World Series in twenty
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: twenty six. A lot of these numbers are are not
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: favorable enough for me to dip my toes in Tigers
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: at twelve to one odds.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: That's that's just it's not.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Chunky enough for me, guys, And we'll see what happens,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of course with or boy that we just spoke to,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Trek Scougle.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: But that's where there's a chance he gets de Yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: that's where you like. Do I even try.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't. The Tigers are still going to be
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: active this offseason, and I like them. I think this
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: is a good team. This is a top what five.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Team in the American League. Yeah, thank you, yes, m Yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I could see that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Tough to put money down like that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: If when I'm playing futures like this, Kratz, I'm more
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: looking at win total over unders, postseason, et cetera. I mean,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you gotta really be bold and go out there and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I know you're getting twelve to one.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: That's great, But I think I see.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I think during the season you'll be able to get numbers,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you know, either at that range or even better. Right
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: if they go through a skid, say early on, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you really at that point have Schooble there and they
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: did some things you liked in the offseason, that's the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: time to pounce.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: For me, for sure, I don't like this number, especially
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: when you sit there in the AL Central where the
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  Speaker 6: Guardians came out essentially came out of nowhere and ended
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  Speaker 6: up winning the Al Central. Like if I'm looking for value,
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  Speaker 6: which I'm looking for if I'm going to be putting
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  Speaker 6: anything on futures, just in the AL Central, like give
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  Speaker 6: me some of that Royals cash, Like there's to me
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  Speaker 6: twelve hundred and twelve to one is not enough right
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  Speaker 6: now for me for the Tigers, who have been to
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  Speaker 6: the playoffs and really have been one pitcher away in
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  Speaker 6: the last two years from making a deeper run. But
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  Speaker 6: you know, I think that I think that value because
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  Speaker 6: the Royals are still trying to win, and I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: you could probably get them at like a I'm not
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  Speaker 6: even gonna say a number because I'll probably be wrong,
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: but much much bigger number, talking like twenty five to
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