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Poker Face with Costume Designer, Trayce Gigi Field · The Art of Costume Podcast

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It's a challenge in the way that, like you just want to do
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your very best, like every minute of every day.
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And I thrive in that environment.
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So yeah, I think it's like, so it's like, you know, hand in
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hand. So yeah, I think it works well.
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Yeah, to everyone, let's say we're doing hand signals today.
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Yeah, exactly. Hello and welcome to the art of
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costume, all those of a Joy Glass.
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And I'm Special Detective Spencer Williams.
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Oh, hello, Detective Williams. How how was your day?
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Oh, so good. I you know, I'm a special kind
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of detective. I could tell when you're lying
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or something like that. Oh yeah, some criminals.
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And so far, you haven't told a lie.
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No, I haven't. I really haven't said anything.
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Exactly. I'm good.
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So I have something to admit. And I feel like this is a safe
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space, but I've become a dad in a sense that I recently saw
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Oppenheimer. Loved it.
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Ohh, OK yes. And I've now gone down this
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really deep dive of. World War 2 History.
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World War 2 History. Yes.
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Strategy and. The Pacific Theater and I've
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been like laying in bed for days now, just watching documentary
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on documentary. You're just like full dad mode
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do. You wanna know?
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And I'm playing Civilization. Sad part of that.
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You're like describing my childhood.
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Right. That's what my friend said.
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Actually. He was like, OK, so everyone had
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this phase already. You're just a late bloomer, but
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you just went straight to the grandpa phase, just that all of
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28 years old. You absolutely you absolutely
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did. I I've like.
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I really want to see it, and I really want to see it in
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theaters, but it's so long. Oh man, but it goes, it goes by.
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It doesn't feel like the full 3, especially if you see in IMAX.
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It's just like. Everyone who I talked to who saw
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in IMAX said they were sweating by the end of it.
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And I'm like, what is this movie that makes you sweat in the
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theater? What is that?
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That's not normal. It's so good, you gotta see it,
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OK? But yeah, just total dad vibes.
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It's just like I'm watching documentaries on documentaries.
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I love that. Reading about, you know,
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strategy and whatnot. I guess this knowledge is a
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little too late, but so yeah, that's why I've been up to.
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What about you? Will say I know way more about
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like the war and like the part of the war that was in Europe
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than in like the than in the Pacific.
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So you might know some stuff. I don't.
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Yeah, well, I actually have learned quite a bit this week.
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But anyway, it's enough about war.
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What are you up to? I'm not up to too much.
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I'm making this wall you see behind me.
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All right. Yeah.
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Describe it to the audience for those who can't see it, which
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is. Everyone.
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I built some shelves. We had this wood laying around
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and I got my dad to teach me how to use a table saw.
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So now I can use a table saw. And I just feel like that.
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Is a power that we should not have unlocked for Elizabeth.
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I have been thinking about what else to do with it.
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Yeah, so I did that and then I went to the Goodwill and I got
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some some frames and I'm going to spray paint them and so like
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okay. So I've been thinking a lot
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about, you know, how we. Exist in this country as
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consumers. Oh boy.
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I've been thinking a lot of thought sensor and I don't
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particularly like it, but I do realize a lot of it is
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unavoidable. But also as a result, I've been
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at the Goodwill and at thrift stores a lot.
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That's. Great.
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Yeah, so like I got this at a thrift store.
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I got these aren't the frames, I got some other I need so need to
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spray paint them. I got some frames and I got like
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champagne glasses and some other like I went on Pinterest and I I
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made a tea tray out of some glassware.
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OK. At the Goodwill.
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And she's in her sustainable era.
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I. AM and then on my like Instagram
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this like trend of like getting prints and like painting in like
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little like. Monkey ghosts and like I I so I
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got a print to do that just do like little spooky like vineyard
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ghost Halloween decor. So we cannot be doing two
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different things right now in our free time, yeah.
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And and I'm I'm sanding so a couple years ago I got this it's
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it's to go with my desk I got I found this chair on the side of
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the road. That was covered in like melted
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crayon for whatever reason, so I've been sanding that so I can
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refinish it, yes. Wow, I love those.
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I'm trying to be industrious. Carpenter, hopefully, yeah.
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You know, humans are so wasteful and everything's A pollutant.
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And like you mentioned, like our friend Lexi fashion such a such
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a. A huge pollutant and it's just
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so good to be thrifting and buying secondhand and you know
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vintage. So good on you.
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Thank. You I'm I'm trying.
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It's it's hard, though it is, I'll admit that.
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I'm like, our society is not built for us to be living this
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way, and I think that might be a problem.
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Yeah, it's a total mindset. We should have Lexi on some time
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to talk about this, because she's.
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The way she talks about it. Gosh, I'm blanking on the name
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of her podcast. I feel like we should plug her
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podcast right now. The Alexify.
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Podcast A place for fashion, Yes.
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Go go listen to that cuz she's brilliant.
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And also in terms of resources, we should also remind everyone
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that we have plenty of resources in our show notes and our, you
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know if link in bio, all those things that could connect you
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with Strike resources regarding SAG, AFTRA and the WGA Strike at
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the time this recording has not come to an end.
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So you know, look for those resources and our show notes so
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participate and where you could donate.
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Also, to help those who are in need who have been affected by
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the strikes, whether whether they were out of work before,
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during or after the strike, we have some great resources like
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the Entertainment Community Fund, SO and Elizabeth.
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We have a great show to get into today.
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We have a fun episode. We do.
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So today we are talking about poker, phase one of my favorite
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new shows this year. It is so good.
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I've rewatched it 100 times. It's the anthology featuring
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Natasha Lyonne. Well, I should say it's a 10
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part mystery series because she's reoccurring in it.
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But it's just, I love a murder mystery.
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I'm really becoming like a murder mystery person.
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Isn't it great? It's so fun and this show is
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just so smart and intelligent and hilarious.
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And you know, of course it's Brian Johnson.
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So it's just it's the whole thing is a masterpiece.
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Perfect. And I'm so happy to say that
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costume designer Tracy Gigi Field will be here in a little
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bit to. Talk about this.
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Incredible show, but first we have to get into our usual
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business. So Elizabeth, why don't you kick
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it off with a summary? Oh, I will.
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Spencer Charlie played by Natasha Lyonne.
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Has an extraordinary ability to determine when someone is lying.
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She hits the road with her Plymouth Barracuda and with
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every stop encounters a new cast of characters and strange crimes
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she can't help but investigate and solve.
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So good. I actually feel like we're
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watching it, as those are done with this podcast now that we're
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talking about it. Right, so let's.
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Dive behind the costumes. This show was created by Ryan
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Johnson, who you will know from Knives Out of course.
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So a murder mystery genius. And the costumes were designed
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by one of our very goodest friends, Tracy Gigi Field, who's
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been such a supporter. And I got to meet her.
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Through Poker Face and some other events surrounding that.
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And I'm just absolutely in love with her.
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She's the greatest. And I also want to shout out her
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assistant costume designer Rochelle Carina who I also got
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an interview at the Beverly Center events.
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I got to know this team who's worked together and they are
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just incredible and they have the two of them just such
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incredible careers on, you know, coming their way.
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So notable work for Tracy Gigi Field.
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You know her from her work on Dead to Me.
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A League of Their Own, Barb and Star go to Vista Del Marf, which
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she was nominated for a Costume Designers Guild Award, a J and a
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Queen, and Two Broke Girls. Yeah.
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Banger upon Banger. I.
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I really want to see Barb and Star go to Vista Del Mar.
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I haven't seen it yet it. Is very good.
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So much fun, very colorful. I feel like you for sure would
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love it. It just gives Elizabeth vibes
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too. I heard it described once and I
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was like this sounds like me. Yeah, it's lots of fun.
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I know you'll love it. But with that, I interviewed
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Tracy about the costumes for Poker Face.
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It's actually been quite a little bit of a while now.
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But Elizabeth and I just have so much to say about these
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costumes. So what we're going to do is
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we're going to take a break. We're going to play my interview
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of Tracy. You're all going to fall in love
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with her. And after that interview, stay
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tuned because then Elizabeth and they are going to get back
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together and talk about this interview and just all the
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costumes and of course play her favorite game.
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Yes, we will be. Our Spencer will be right back
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with the interview. But then Elizabeth will be back
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back after. I'm back.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, bye.
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I am so excited to introduce my friend.
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Tracy. Gigi Field.
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Hey, Tracy. Hi Spencer.
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I'm excited to talk about Poker Face.
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I'm so excited to finally talk to you.
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I feel like every time we talk to each other we're either
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standing over a food buffet or at a bar.
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So that is so accurate. And we're like, are we gonna eat
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that? No, maybe we're not gonna eat
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that. OK.
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No, we're exactly. Yeah, it's time we evolve our
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friendship past the food table. All right, let's do it.
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Well, I'm so excited to talk about Poker Face.
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I am. Obsessed with the show,
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honestly. Not to be biased, but it's one
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of my favorite shows on TV right now.
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I am so excited to get into everything.
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Charlie. I really resonate with her.
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I am someone who grew up in the desert, so I just really was
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feeling this entire environment the entire time in good and bad
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ways. Always.
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Like bringing back memories. Right.
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But first I want to start with Charlie, played by the brilliant
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Natasha Lyonne. How would you describe Charlie
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and how do you, how do the costume?
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Support the character. The way I would describe Charlie
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is desert meets 70s meets Western, right?
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Like, that's her whole, like, sort of vibe.
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It's where she lives. It's kind of like what she
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embodies and it's totally conveyed through her clothing,
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right? It's like she has a lebowski
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sweater. She's sitting outside of her
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trailer. She's got her little boots on,
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you know, it's like she's just, she's totally effortless but
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still really cute and chic. So yeah, I think that that's the
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best way to to describe her. And I love that she's also kind
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of like a chameleon because she has to hit the road right?
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And she kind of blends in up into all these different
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environments, but still remaining true to who Charlie
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is. So what was it like?
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Kind of design these costumes for a character who travels from
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place to place? To me, kind of sounds like the
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costume design dream, honestly. I mean, I will say that this
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project across the board for me was kind of a dream like UH, for
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Charlie specifically, UH, character on the move, right.
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And like, I really start from an authentic place with like all my
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characters. But this one in particular was
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very important for it to be genuine, right.
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So she's got tshirts in her car. She's got some old boots in her
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car. Like she's had some things in
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her car. As you can tell from the first
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episode, she's not the most put together person, right.
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And then along the way, she's like, grabs a cat from like gas
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station because she grabbed some sunglasses from, like, the gas
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station. She's just trying to, like be
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Incognito. But she also just remains very
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true to herself, right? Like, maybe she went to a thrift
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store and bought like a shirt for 2 bucks or like a tshirt or
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something. So that's kind of like where my
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whole basis of like, how she is comes from, you know?
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And I also am like a big back story person.
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Like, she does have that one YSL jacket, that beautiful brown
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buttery jacket that she wears throughout.
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Like I was like, oh, oh, she got that when she was grifting, when
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she got in trouble, you know with early senior, it's like
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that was like one of her big purchases and like, you know,
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she's had that for a while. So yeah, I mean I think that
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that's really, that's really like where where we we started
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with her. And I think it she just remained
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very true to herself throughout. You actually brought up
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something I wanted to talk about, too, because she does
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rewear a lot of clothing. When I saw her get in her car
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and just speed off without packing any bags, I was like,
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hell yeah, this was going to be a lot of fun because she's going
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through gas stations and buying glasses.
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So I've actually never interviewed a costume designer
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where rewearing clothing was kind of like a part of the deal.
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You know, like actually like, where it's kind of like said
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plane, like, this is what she's doing.
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So how does that work? Completely honest with you.
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Hey, that is one of my things. Like when I did 2 Broke Girls I
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there's A at me when I did Dead to Me like and specially poker
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face like I Again, I try to base everything in realism.
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Just because it's a TV show doesn't mean that they have to
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wear a new episode, a new outfit every episode, or everything
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even, like. It's not real.
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That's not real life. I mean, I real life.
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I got a closet and I definitely have some favorites.
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You know what I mean? That I can wear all the.
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So it's like, I think that that's like, that's what makes
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it so real. That makes it like, you know,
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people identify with the fact that like, she wore the same
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jeans, she wore the same belt, she had the same shoes.
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Like, you know, she re wore tshirts.
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Like, it wasn't just like poof magic.
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Like, she just had all these things all the time.
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Like, you know, like I said, the basis was that she had some
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stuff in her car and along the way she kind of acquired some
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things. Don't you think it's important
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that it's real? I think it's important that it's
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real. So yeah.
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I mean, it made her feel, that made her feel like a real
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person, honestly. I mean, I felt like this is
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someone that I could probably relate to.
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Honestly, that's exactly like why I do it.
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So I think that like as a viewer you wanna like totally
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understand and be able to relate to the characters.
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Right. One thing I love to talk about
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is sustainability and costume design, and Charlie loves a
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vintage tea. There's a Fleetwood Mac one that
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I just would probably murder for, and she would know that I
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did it. How did sustainability and
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vintage clothing play a role in your job on this show?
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Well, in general, I would say that that is extremely important
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to me. Sustainability like I'm a big
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thrift shopper in general and I also have like I have a master
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collection of things that that you know Natasha the actually
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wore in this in the show like Charlie's pajamas in the first
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episode where she also has that brown robe on.
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So that's a brown vintage Christian Dior robe I've had for
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20 years and the P J's same thing Christian Dior P J's that
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I've had for 20 years. Like I am a person that holds on
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to things and I feel like a lot of people do.
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So I like again you see that in this character she I also she's
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wearing like so many vintage pieces the belt vintage the vest
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that she wears that she loves the black with the Rick rack,
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that's vintage. I also had to recreate a
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multiple 4 for a double, but you know it's like.
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I mean, hey, hey, you got to do, right.
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So, yeah, I mean, I really there's a lot of reusing and a
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lot of just having pieces that are vintage that are sprinkled
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throughout and on other characters as well.
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Like, it's really important to me that everything's not
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branded. Before we dive into the other
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characters, I wanna talk about your collaboration with Natasha.
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I imagine it must have been very close and intimate as she's a
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very main character and also, I mean works behind the scenes on
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it as well. Yeah, my relationship with
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Natasha is basically this. I worked with her before she
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director right out of COVID. I met her via Zoom about a
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Netflix special that she directed.
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And within like 2 minutes she was like, I love you.
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Like if you're not gonna do this, we're definitely gonna
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work together. And like really is like Natasha,
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like right there. It's like she knows she's very
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instinctual. She is just she's just like a
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super cool individual and she's incredibly smart, right?
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So if you're going to work with somebody like her, I really feel
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like you better bring your A game because she knows
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everything top to bottom. She is a professional.
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She is like she's gone through the script the million times and
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like you know if you're going to to be the person that's going to
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not only dress her as a character but also everyone
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else, like you know, you really should definitely bring your A
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game. So I'm an overachiever and so I
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think our personalities just like mesh and working together
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and we both are very similar in terms of like aesthetic, like we
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love like vintage pieces and like we love clothes.
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And I think she's very chic and I don't know if I'm necessarily
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so chic, but I can appreciate chicness and like.
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You know, yeah, I just think that like we just really vibe
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and I I love working with her. She it's it's a challenge in the
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way that like you just want to do your very best, like every
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minute of every day. And I thrive in that
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environment. So yeah, I think it's like me.
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Yeah, I mean, it comes off on screen.
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Yeah. It's like, you know, hand in
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hand. So yeah, I think it works well.
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Yeah, to everyone listening, we're doing Hand signals today.
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Well, there's some other characters I want to talk about,
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starting with the third episode. I believe it's three.
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Yes, the third episode where Charlie ends up in Texas and it
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was a feast for the eyes, as I would say, or BBQ.
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Taffy Boil. We're back to food.
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Clearly we love, Right. Right.
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Yeah. I can't help it.
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When she was eating the wood, I was like, OK, maybe Taffy boils,
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Wardrobe, impeccable. It's so good.
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I mean, how did he get into like, the western of it all?
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OK, so first of all, it's written right, the characters
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written as like a little bit of flamboyant, not necessarily
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right word, but sort of like a fashion cowboy, right?
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Like a little bit and so. I don't even say that.
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It's written that he's in like a cool denim jacket.
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I mean, that's a cool denim, cool Western denim jacket.
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That is how it's read, right? That's right.
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I was like, OK, well. I'd be in a person of color and
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like, well, you know, I feel like if you're going to be a
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cowboy and you're going to be a person of color cowboy, you're
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going to do it up right. I felt like to dress.
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So I was like, all right, let's do this.
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So I got him like a leather sweetie French jacket, you know,
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I got just. Across the board, like all these
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crazy pieces my assistant found like these amazing, like, you
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know, Python boots, like just really cool, cool stuff.
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And little real was way into it. He was like, oh, this is
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awesome, like I'm gonna put this on, put this on.
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And so that's how it kind of came together.
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It's like a huge collaboration. And he ended up looking like, so
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cool. So I so cool, yeah.
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Right. And like, I just wanted him to
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have like a pop. So and also you know, growing
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up, I like watched all these shows.
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Like Columbo and you know the Rockwell Files and like it.
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Rockford Fire, Rockwell Walkwell Files.
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I'm thinking Rockwell, pardon me, I did that show too.
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So anyway, so you know, you always kind of felt like the bad
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guy or like the sinister person had like a look, a vibe, a feel.
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And so I really tried to like do that with almost.
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All the the the bad guy people, the sinister, the the murderers
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throughout right throughout the episode.
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I love that Taffy is like this eccentric, fashionable cowboy
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and that he continues to still wear his apron over his really
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done up costume. That's such a good.
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Point He's not giving that up. He is like, I'm.
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I'm gonna look good. It is so funny.
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I was busting up laughing. I could not believe he's still
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wearing an apron. It's perfect.
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Also honorable mention to the very cute dog that was in this
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episode. A little mad at Charlie for not
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taking him on the road. But I get it.
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Whatever. That's.
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A cutie. So sweet, so cute.
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So I have two favorite episodes and the first one was the metal
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episode is so good. 47 yay. I mean, she just kills it.
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Perfect casting. So we just went from Texas BBQ
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to, like, death metal rock'n'roll.
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Background with three with 300 metal background OK just want to
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make sure I do that in there. 300 metal background.
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No big deal. You're right.
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So much sleep. It was great.
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No, I love it. So how did you come up with
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Chloe's look specifically? Because it's really badass.
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Well, first of all, look at Chloe.
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Very, very hard to make her look bad.
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I had chills. She looked amazing.
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She's just like, she can wear anything, She basically.
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That's all real, real things from like the 80s and 90s I.
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Wanted her to just feel authentic for my usual way of
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doing things, right. And so I really wanted her to
24:08
have like leather and like, you know, these cool ass belts and
24:11
like just things that like made her just feel like a real
24:14
rock'n'roll, you know, rock and roller.
24:16
So yeah, I mean, that's basically how that came about.
24:21
The shoes were the high heels that she are, a story point that
24:26
helped give away the murderer. Are Alexander McQueen.
24:31
And you know, there's like, there's spikes on them and
24:34
they're like really like badass. And so yeah, I mean that's
24:37
that's basically, you know, we didn't do like a whole lot of,
24:40
like, makeup. There's like a little bit of
24:42
makeup, but like just cool makeup, not a lot of jewels.
24:46
It was more like about the belt and about the actual fit of the
24:50
clothes, you know, so right. It was so subtle and perfect.
24:54
And I actually love Charlie's like, tshirt merch girl outfit
24:58
because I I don't know how you did it, but it's very subtle
25:01
where you just like know like, oh, that's the merch person
25:04
without really doing too much, you know?
25:08
Yeah, I I, I love this outfit on Natasha.
25:11
It the color obviously is like really good and just kind of is
25:14
like subtle but still there. And then she wore this great
25:18
jacket, right? She wore this like leather
25:20
caramel jacket that had like swoop in the front that's
25:22
totally 70s inspired. It's made by one of my favorite
25:26
brands, which is classic Rocketor limited runs.
25:29
You can't get it all the time. And so that's kind of like a
25:32
special thing that I try to do. It's like I want it to be
25:35
accessible, but not too accessible.
25:37
And I also do like high, low, like, I just really try to keep
25:40
it interesting, like every job. I'm like trying to outdo my job
25:43
myself every time. It's like trying to find like
25:45
those those things that aren't like everywhere.
25:48
So I feel like this particular episode was totally a highlight
25:53
of that. Yeah, I have so much fun.
25:55
It did feel like, especially in this show, felt like this was
25:58
new, but this wasn't something like this felt like a whole
26:01
different world. And I perked up on my councils,
26:03
Oh, I like this. What are we doing here?
26:06
So I will admit I have a huge crush on Judith Light.
26:10
She's just. Doesn't.
26:13
She's so cool, cool. And so, I mean, yeah, and so was
26:18
a PATHA and just, I know I'm cutting you off, but I'm making
26:21
really fast. These showed up and they were
26:23
like instant best friends and they totally set the like vibe
26:27
of like the whole episode. It was just one of the most fun
26:30
episodes that we shot. I think it was my favorite.
26:32
It was so fun. I love these two together.
26:36
Their best friends are murderous best friends.
26:40
And it's fine because you kind of get a flashback to the 60s.
26:43
Yes, like late 60s, Seven, late early 70s.
26:48
Right. Like.
26:49
A little bit more 70s, but right.
26:51
And then we kind of see how it their past informs their present
26:55
actually. And they kind of see still like
26:56
a little bit of reference to their younger selves from back
27:00
then. So what was it like working with
27:02
these two? It was just so good.
27:04
I could have. This could have been a whole
27:06
series, honestly. I love these two ladies.
27:10
I cannot say enough about Epatha and Judith.
27:12
Like yes. So their clothes are indicative,
27:15
their present day clothes are indicative by their past
27:18
clothes, and they basically just kept that, like free.
27:23
Freedom free, sort of like 70s inspired, 60s inspired like
27:28
vibe. There's like a a hippie chicness
27:31
to them. I would lots of jewels, lots of
27:34
just like accessories. I don't know if you notice, but
27:38
they kind of are always in the same tone.
27:40
So when they're wearing greens, they're both wearing greens.
27:42
And if they're wearing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:44
So if. You both do the episode, you'll
27:47
see that that's kind of like they are playoff feature.
27:50
They're kind of one person. They're like 2 halves of one
27:52
person because they've been together.
27:53
For so long, you know, and Ipatha, I mean, I, you know, I'm
27:57
gonna use a cuss word really quick.
27:59
But she was like, I can't believe I get the same
28:02
motherfucker on TV. Like, what is that kind of, like
28:06
funness that was like happening? So in terms of like close in
28:11
this episode, like you know, I had to build Judith that Terrace
28:16
outfit, like when she is on that trellis, you know, like she.
28:21
They I had to go to Judy, our production designer, who's
28:25
awesome. And I was like, what does this
28:27
trails look like? And she was like, oh, I don't
28:30
know yet. I was like, girl, I got like, I
28:32
gotta create fabric and I gotta make an outfit.
28:35
I need to know what this trails gonna look like.
28:37
A lady has a hop out of a wheelchair and climb up this
28:40
thing. Yeah, and she has to, like, be
28:42
camouflaged. So I need to like no.
28:45
I based the whole fabric off of, like, what the trellis was gonna
28:48
look like. So yeah, did some sublimation.
28:50
Had that done. It's actually like a bodysuit
28:53
with, like, pants. And so yeah, I that was one of
28:57
my favorite things to make. I don't know.
29:01
I have an illustration of that that I can send you.
29:03
So you can see it, but it's like, so cool.
29:05
And then of course, Natasha in this episode too.
29:07
Like. Her whole jumpsuit and then
29:10
she's got on the like, old ladies cardigan, which you have
29:14
right in front of me, which I got on Amazon, by the way and
29:16
everyone is like, is that vintage?
29:18
I'm like, Nope, it's from Amazon, yeah.
29:21
Last glasses that like flip up and then we got her these, um,
29:26
this glass chain. And I was like, you gotta wear
29:28
the glasses chain. She was like, Oh yeah, I mean,
29:30
she was coming to it. Just like I could hear it in her
29:33
voice, honestly. It's just like, so that's an
29:36
organic experience about just having things like come to life.
29:40
And I I mean, I'm so enthusiastic about it because I
29:43
really feel like they just let me run with it and they like,
29:46
let me pitch them ideas, both not Ryan and Natasha.
29:49
And they just like. You know, they let me do my job.
29:52
And so I I I love and appreciate them for that.
29:56
Right. And it's also another moment
29:58
where costume design had to do with the storytelling.
30:01
When she's going through clothing and ends up the person
30:04
who was wearing it passed away. I just thought I was like, this
30:07
is genius. Costume design is just so strong
30:09
in this show. It has to do so much with the
30:11
story. I know.
30:12
I love that. So fun.
30:14
So episode 8 is wild, Very wild. The Orpheus Syndrome.
30:21
Natasha wrote this and directed this.
30:23
You know, it's from her very intellectual mind and she that
30:26
makes a lot of sense. He's like, yeah, this 1965 film
30:30
we're referencing. I was like, OK, well let me go
30:32
look this film up because I don't know what this is, but I
30:35
get an education, which is amazing.
30:38
Well, I need to do some more research.
30:40
I would love to get into your head.
30:41
There is 2 points in this episode I want to talk about.
30:44
First, the horse. I mean, we have to talk about
30:46
the horse that was. Wild.
30:49
I don't even know how this came to be.
30:52
Well, if you do a little research about the The Orpheus
30:56
Syndrome 1965 film, it's it's a French film.
31:02
There's basically. That walks around in it and it's
31:06
solitary inspiration. And you know, when when I this
31:10
episode was first floating around while we were shooting,
31:13
Phil Tippett was going to do all these creatures, right?
31:15
I don't know if you know who Phil Tippet is.
31:16
He worked on Star Wars. He did all these creature
31:19
creative things. And so I was like, cool.
31:22
Well, clearly I'm not going to do the horse if they have.
31:25
You know what I mean? We have the Star Wars guy.
31:30
So I'm like, walking by and one day on set, Natasha was like,
31:35
Tracy, you know you're making the horse, right?
31:37
And I was like, I'm making a horse, no problem.
31:40
I'll go. Yeah, I already did it.
31:42
You just haven't seen it yet. Yeah.
31:44
So I read the script and I was like, OK, I'm making this horse
31:47
and I felt things like this in the past.
31:49
So it's not like I didn't have any experience with it, but I
31:52
was like, you know, it needed to have all these elements, right?
31:54
It needed to be lightweight. It needed to.
31:56
Where we were shooting was very hot.
31:59
So I was like, oh, I need to be able to keep Natasha cool.
32:02
It has to look sinister. It has to look like it's part of
32:04
this world. Like it had to do all these
32:05
things. And you know, there's a lot of
32:08
physical comedy in it. So I need to like make sure that
32:10
it's durable and. I was like, OK, no big deal.
32:15
I talked to one of my favorite builders in LA and I tell them
32:18
all the things I need and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
32:20
And then I come to Lai think I'm, I was here for like the A
32:25
League of Their Own premiere. And so I see my builder friend
32:30
and I'm like, OK, what you got? And so I put the worst on and I
32:33
we do this video And then I sent it to Natasha and she's like,
32:36
OK, great. And I was like, great.
32:37
So I'll bring it back to New York.
32:38
So I'll bring it back to New York.
32:40
And then we do a fitting. And you know, I'm scared.
32:45
Well, it didn't originally say that the head had to come off,
32:49
right? But then the head had to come
32:50
off and I was like, OK, well, I I had built a version where the
32:54
head came off but it didn't really like.
32:56
Didn't really work right. And so I have Natasha try the
32:59
one where the head doesn't come off and we're like doing the
33:02
fitting. And there's the part where she
33:03
has to speak, but obviously you can't speak because you're
33:07
speaking. So then she like puts her head
33:09
like through the armhole and it's hilarious, right?
33:13
Like, Oh my God, it's like, this is the moment.
33:15
This totally works. And that is exactly how she did
33:17
it in the episode. So it just goes to show you like
33:20
those fittings are like the the like moment where everything
33:23
like just kind of like comes. It's like the the.
33:26
The the Come to Jesus moment. It's like the moment where
33:28
you're like, OK, this works. So yeah, so that horse is made
33:34
out of foam. There is a fan built into it to
33:37
keep Natasha cool nice. The there's a faux hair on the
33:41
top of the head and then the actual tail is made out of
33:44
plants that were spray painted black so they could have like
33:48
swooshing feelings. Yeah, so that is exactly how
33:52
that came about. And she crowded.
33:54
She did all these things, and then it's awesome, the way that
33:58
she popped her head out the armhole.
33:59
Now, knowing the story behind it too, it's even funnier, right?
34:03
Because at first I thought I was like, why is that?
34:05
The armhole. It's so good.
34:07
Yeah. Yeah.
34:08
That's the armhole, but it works.
34:09
It looks funny. So that that worked out so
34:12
perfect. And then we have to talk about,
34:14
I think the scariest villain is Cherry Jones's character.
34:18
Love her, but she was scary, that final look she wore when,
34:22
you know, she kind of meets her demise.
34:24
I don't have a good picture of it, but it was flawless.
34:30
Yeah, okay. So let's talk about Cherry
34:32
Jones, who plays Laura in episode 108.
34:34
She is so diabolical and like. You know, Sinister.
34:41
And I really just wanted to convey that through through her
34:45
clothing. So obviously very polished
34:47
though very refined. Had to be chic, right?
34:51
Had to feel rich, but also had to feel a little diabolical.
34:55
So creams and tans and you know, Grays are usually like my go to
35:02
when I'm trying to do something a little chic.
35:04
So that's cream suit made by Max Mara was like one of the perfect
35:08
things. There's also.
35:10
Raised suit. I think that was made by
35:12
actress. And then the actual blouse is
35:14
also Max Mara. I love these, like ties around
35:17
her neck and just sort of. I don't know.
35:20
It's like, it just gives her like this sort of like vibe.
35:24
And as far as like, oh, and let me just really quickly say that
35:28
that little brooch that she's wearing, that's from Amazon, So
35:30
I'd like to do a lot of high, low situation.
35:33
And as long as. My best friend.
35:34
I know it's terrible for the for the earth, but usually it's a
35:37
lot of it and then I reuse those boxes.
35:39
So don't come after me, people and.
35:44
This, the dress that she wears at the inn is actually Carolina
35:46
Herrera. And soon as I saw it, I knew it
35:49
was like the one. It really just inherently felt
35:52
right. It's like almost like a work of
35:55
art. There's like, you know, the
35:56
beautiful, like pieces in the front of like, the floral.
36:00
It just literally looks like a painting.
36:03
And it gave all the right feelings.
36:05
It was like, put together chic also just kind of like Cruella
36:10
and like me, you know what I mean?
36:12
So it was like. The perfect, I think the perfect
36:15
thing. She also wore another Carolina
36:17
Herrera dress that actually looks like it's a skirt in the
36:19
top and we belted it and it just that.
36:22
Also I feel like was just like the perfect piece for that
36:26
perfect moment. So yeah, she's one of my
36:29
favorite characters that they got to dress.
36:31
I really, I really just feel like her clothing was like a
36:35
work of art. Yeah, definitely.
36:37
It's funny because, you know, she's a villain in this story,
36:40
but I felt like she could almost be a villain in any story.
36:42
If this character would walk up onto like the set of Hunger
36:45
Games that fit, if it was like a horror movie, scream, whatever.
36:49
She's the perfect villain. And the costume, just like it
36:53
really adds to it. It's just brilliant.
36:56
So good. Maybe they should cast her in
36:58
Hunger Games. We should.
36:59
I'm going to e-mail someone. You should.
37:01
Do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:04
And then, finally, the public is all abuzz about this finale.
37:08
Dress everyone. Loves it, by the way.
37:10
It's sold out. Everyone.
37:12
Sorry, you might. Yeah, way to go.
37:14
I know podcast is too late. Sorry everyone I.
37:18
Know, sorry, you might find it on Poshmark.
37:20
I mean, like, it's incredible how many people love this dress.
37:24
And let me tell you the story right So.
37:28
Read the script right. And I'm like, OK, she has to
37:30
blend in with the, with the bridesmaids, you know, The
37:35
Bachelorette party. She has to be able to run in, it
37:38
has to be able to go into water. It has to have a little bit of
37:40
sparkle and feel like it came from Sterling Senior.
37:44
You know, it's like had all these things that it needed to
37:46
be and it also need to look good, right?
37:49
Because. And so it's the finale.
37:53
This is the first dress that I bought.
37:57
It's the first dress I tried to do.
37:59
I was like Natasha, this is the one.
38:01
But you know, her and I are, like I said, very similar in the
38:05
way that like, well, we got to do our due diligence right?
38:07
We tried on fifty other dresses and then came back to, I don't
38:12
know, Nope. Nope.
38:13
Nope. Nope.
38:14
And I needed what, like three or four of these?
38:17
Her stunt double, Another one for her, you know.
38:19
Duh, duh, duh gets wet and you know.
38:22
I did cut down the neck a little bit because we needed to get the
38:25
cell phone in and out because there's no place for her to put
38:27
a cell phone. And I shortened it a little bit.
38:29
But other than that, I mean, she looks so cute.
38:32
She has the best legs, right? So it's like, you want to
38:34
highlight those. It moved, it stretched, it ran,
38:37
She had the crawl underneath the house, the long sleeves, You
38:40
know, she got into the water. It didn't fall apart.
38:43
It's a, you know, when you think about these things, it's like
38:47
film and TV. They always have female
38:50
characters running around in like bikinis and hot.
38:52
Dresses and doing all these stunts and high heels when the
38:55
men get to run around and like boots or like a maybe a suit.
38:59
But usually it's like boots and jeans and a tshirt.
39:02
And it's like women are so amazing and incredible that they
39:05
are out there just like doing these crazy stunts and doing all
39:09
of these like amazing running situations and all in heels and
39:13
in tight dresses. So I would just like to shout
39:15
out all the ladies who have done this, because it is not easy but
39:19
we make it look good. Hell yeah.
39:21
So yes, the dress, I think was the perfect dress.
39:24
You know, I think it embodied all the things that needed to
39:27
embody. It did all the things that
39:29
needed to do, like stunt wise and Natasha, like really cute
39:34
badass from beginning to end, right?
39:37
I love it. Tracy, you fucking killed it.
39:40
I just love this show. Me too.
39:44
So good. Me too.
39:45
I'm so about having being so into it.
39:49
I'm so happy for you. I'm so excited to see what's
39:52
next. And of course for all those who
39:54
are listening, make sure you go check out Poker Face on Peacock.
39:58
And Tracy has some other great things out there right now too,
40:00
like A League of Their Own on Prime Video, Dead to me on
40:04
Netflix and it's getting hot outside.
40:06
It's time to go to the pool. So don't forget to watch Barb
40:09
and Star go the Vista Del Mar. That's still the perfect summer
40:12
movie. Also that.
40:13
Film. It makes you laugh so hard.
40:15
So if you need a good laugh like please, please too.
40:19
Well, thank you so much, Tracy. This was a brilliant.
40:21
I'm so glad that we've added to our gatherings.
40:24
No longer just food bars and salad bars, No more, just food.
40:28
Yeah, so great to see your face via Zoom and to talk to you, and
40:33
I'm sure I'll see you soon. Yeah.
40:34
Yeah. I'm so excited.
40:35
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40:54
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41:17
support. Spencer That was such a good
41:38
interview. Thank you.
41:40
I was so excited about this interview.
41:42
Tracy is just. The coolest.
41:44
I mean, she is such a real genuine person and so, so
41:49
talented. It's.
41:50
So amazing. So amazing.
41:52
And I my going back to my thoughts on our consumerism, I
41:58
loved when you all were talking about, you know, like reusable
42:01
pieces keeping, keeping things and reusing and thrifting like
42:06
that is. I loved that.
42:08
Yeah, such a mind blowing concept because you know, when
42:11
we think about costume design you're designing most of the
42:13
time it feels like we're designing a new costume for
42:16
every single scene. But yeah, Charlie Kale packed up
42:19
her bag and she hightailed the elved out casino.
42:22
She said goodbye. Very quickly with maybe a.
42:26
Some shirts in the sweater too. So how does that play out
42:30
through a 10 part series? I think it's an interesting
42:33
question. I think Tracy just.
42:36
Nailed it so. Perfectly, absolutely,
42:37
absolutely. What were some of your favorite
42:40
episodes? Oh my goodness, that's so hard.
42:44
So I love the Orpheus syndrome. Yes, that is a good one.
42:52
I I'm blanking on the name of the the woman who runs the
42:55
studio. Cherry Jones Who cares?
42:58
Laura so good. So good and like, she just is
43:02
like the spitting image of like. A well to do like older woman
43:08
who like has her craft together and then just like to watch her
43:11
unravel. It's so good and she deserves, I
43:15
think. Was she nominate for an Emmy?
43:17
I'm not sure. But if she was, she deserves it.
43:19
And if she wasn't, I'm going to fight someone.
43:21
Yes, I loved that. That was probably my favorite
43:26
episode second. Time of the Monkey.
43:31
I know you're going to say that. We're so in tune, Elizabeth.
43:35
I was like I am those murderous old ladies, minus the murder.
43:41
I mean, you right know how I feel about Judith Light.
43:43
I just have such a crush on Judith Light.
43:46
She is so great in it. And I was.
43:50
I literally knew you were going to say this episode, which is
43:52
why I was looking at the cast already.
43:54
Good. And as Apatha Murchison, she is
43:57
so good at 2, just the two of them together.
44:00
It's so funny and so sinister. They just, I was really blown
44:04
away by their storyline because I loved them and then when we
44:08
found out what they were doing, I couldn't believe.
44:12
I also loved how Charlie was going around and like getting
44:16
the clothes and like accessories of like like residents that were
44:21
no longer. It's the community.
44:24
I was like, yes. That's master class costume
44:27
through storytelling. Yeah.
44:30
No, I I love those two episodes. I think those are my two
44:33
favorites. My other favorite though is rest
44:36
and metal. I think Chloe 78.
44:38
Yes, and that Joan Jett inspired rocker episode.
44:42
It is so good. It just gives me everything I
44:46
need. I've rewatched that one probably
44:50
100 times. And that that was one like, I
44:54
like, I didn't see coming. Especially like when you realize
44:57
like where Charlie was during this whole story.
44:59
I'm like, whoa, like, it just like came came at you so
45:05
quickly, but not as much as I think we both really liked this
45:10
episode, The Stall. With that.
45:13
Western. Oh my gosh.
45:17
Taffy Boil. I've just really been into like
45:22
southern or or western cowboy type.
45:26
That was definitely more like like Midwesty.
45:29
Yeah, I was just really into that with this and righteous
45:33
gemstones. And George and Tammy, yeah, I've
45:36
just really been in his phase. And then you.
45:39
Need you need to watch Yellowstone then.
45:41
I know, I know. But it was perfect.
45:44
It was spot on. It was very funny and also made
45:49
me really want BBQ. When Charlie was like chewing on
45:52
the wood chips, it's kind of relatable.
45:54
I was like, MMM. I was like that looks good.
45:57
Yeah, even the wood was looking good.
45:59
Right. Right.
46:01
And escape from Ship Mountains. A good one.
46:03
Seeing Stephanie Shu. Yeah, who we fell in love with
46:07
and everything you wear all at once.
46:09
I think you as a Joseph Gordon Levitt fan.
46:13
Maybe just like a little bit. And like, maybe I kind of loved
46:16
that he was in this. Which also, by the way, I have
46:22
to shout out I just love the desert vibes in all of these
46:25
episodes. Especially like the first.
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Three. It just felt like home because I
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grew up in the desert. So you're you're a high desert
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caliboy. Yeah, it was very relatable.
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And the finale episode? We talk about it's called the
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hook, that Dolce Gabbana dress that she wears, a floral dress
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that goes through absolute hell. And it just, I can't explain it.
46:48
It's just magical, the way that dress lives on screen throughout
46:52
this entire episode. It is so beautiful and so I have
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to say. The reason I watched this show
46:59
was for for Mr. Ron Perlman, who is one of my favorite actors of
47:05
all time. It was a payoff.
47:07
Too seeing him at the end. Yes, and like, he looks so good
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and she looks so good. It just like all comes together
47:15
in that moment so beautifully and then of course, like
47:17
everything goes to shit, like it's terrible.
47:21
It goes horribly wrong, but she's she's in that dress at the
47:24
casino. When she's running, it becomes a
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Bachelorette party dress. Remember, she's on.
47:30
Like the? Party bust and lit with the
47:32
penis ring and then she's crawling on the ground
47:36
underneath her sister's house and then she's on the yacht and
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at this dress just. It carries her.
47:42
It carries her through every situation and it's like you,
47:46
like she in that dress. She should not have made it out
47:48
of that hotel, but she makes it out that hotel and then some.
47:52
How did no one notice her? Because it is just way too
47:55
stunning. Yeah, so good, Elizabeth.
47:59
I think we should just play our favorite game and there's a lot
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of costumes to pick from. Yes, absolutely.
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Let's let's do it. The one costume to rule them
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all. Why don't you go first?
48:18
So this is such a hard one. This is such a hard one.
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And I thought I knew what it was gonna be.
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But now that we talked about that Dolce Gabon dress.
48:31
I think that's the one I was leaning towards, the horse head
48:34
costume. Yeah, I mean that's that's a
48:37
good one. But that dress, it's just like,
48:41
it looks great on her. It like works in the story when
48:45
like, you don't think it should. It does everything it needs to
48:49
do and then some. And like, it is flawless.
48:53
It is flawless, like even if it if she didn't wear it for as
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long as she did, it was already a phenomenal dress.
49:00
You know, oh, yeah. But then it became like such
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like a costume plot point to an entire episode.
49:06
It just had so much life in it. So that's a exceptional choice,
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Elizabeth. Well done.
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Thank you. Thank you so much to.
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I have to add on the horse costume because I've actually
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worn the horse head before. Yeah.
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So when I interviewed Tracy at the Beverly Center.
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We joked beforehand because we had dinner before and I was
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like, I would love to just wear that horse.
49:30
Had the entire interview. And of course Tracy's cool.
49:34
She's like, yeah, sure, whatever.
49:36
But when we actually got there, the horse costume was there and
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I saw Tracy and Rochelle wearing it and I got jealous instantly.
49:44
I like, put my drink down. I was like, yeah, walked all the
49:48
way over there, like I'm getting a picture, this thing.
49:51
And I think she said in an interview that there was
49:53
actually 2 versions. There's one where the head comes
49:55
off and there's one where it doesn't.
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So I wore the one where the head came off, which I don't think is
50:01
the one that was used on screen, but it's one that Natasha wore
50:06
at some point. And yeah, I got to put it on my
50:09
head and it's it was everything he gave me, everything I needed.
50:14
I love that. Did you like not post a picture
50:17
of this? Like I feel like I would
50:19
remember that. It was in my little reel.
50:21
I'll send it to you after this. I still have it.
50:24
That's. Amazing.
50:25
But my one constant rule them all actually I think is in the
50:29
Orpheus syndrome at the big, you know, premiere.
50:33
That black and white look, it is just stunning.
50:36
Cherry Jones just looks incredible and it's just
50:39
something about it with her the, you know, Bob she has and just a
50:44
strong silhouette. She just looks so sinister and
50:47
such a villain. But then also you kind of feel
50:50
for her in ways like. Ever so slightly.
50:53
I mean, she could be a Marvel villain at this point.
50:56
She she would have been a better villain.
50:58
And Ant Man Quantum Mania. Like she was.
51:03
So good in this and that costume.
51:05
Just really works with her, so. Good.
51:09
Yes. Definitely.
51:10
I think my favorite costume, but there's way too many to choose
51:12
from. I have one in like every
51:14
episode. Oh yeah, like, that's another
51:17
thing I love about this show is just from a costume standpoint.
51:21
It's so interesting and like diverse, and it changes every
51:26
single episode. It really does.
51:28
So it's like you're never bored. During this show, there's never
51:32
like, I I know she talks about like, oh, like reusing pieces,
51:36
especially for Charlie. But it's like, I feel like you
51:40
never get a repeat in like the look of like as an episode.
51:44
Yeah, each one's like fresh and new and like you just you you
51:48
want to see what all is on the screen.
51:51
Right. Did you have a favorite Charlie
51:52
costume? Mine was probably the Fleetwood
51:55
Mac Vintage Show. Oh gosh, that's hard.
51:59
That's hard. I I that last that last dress.
52:02
That's. Oh yeah, that was your one
52:03
costume, so that. I know, makes the cut.
52:06
There you go. Well, Elizabeth, this is a fun
52:11
episode. I'm so glad we finally got to do
52:13
this one. We've been talking about it for
52:15
a while. So finally.
52:17
Yeah, that was poker face. Everyone, please let us know
52:20
what your one costume ruled them all is.
52:22
You could leave us a voicemail at 626-515-1826 or.
52:28
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52:31
Let us know what your favorite costume was.
52:32
What was your favorite episode? Is Cherry Jones the coolest
52:37
person on this planet? Yes or yes?
52:39
And let us know. Let us know and Spencer, I'm
52:44
very excited for next week. Are you?
52:47
I'm so glad. I am so I have not finished
52:51
catching up with this series, but I will.
52:55
I will in time. To listen to your interview with
52:59
the Righteous Gemstones costume designer Christina Flannery.
53:04
So excited. It is such a good interview and
53:08
such a good show. I haven't talked about the show
53:10
nonstop. If you're not watching the
53:12
righteous gemstones, you need to get on it immediately.
53:15
I don't know why. It seems like Max doesn't
53:18
promote this show as much compared to they.
53:20
Don't. They don't, compared to the Last
53:23
of Us succession. And just like that, it's nothing
53:27
compared to those in terms of promotion, but I honestly think
53:30
it's one of the greatest shows to ever be on this streaming
53:34
service is so good. Because it's an HBO show,
53:36
correct of, right. So I think it's the best comedy
53:40
on HBO currently. Right.
53:42
It's so funny. And it actually has so much
53:44
heart to it, too. You fall in love with these
53:46
characters, even though they're pretty often horrible people.
53:50
You can't help but just, like, love them.
53:52
So, yeah, yes. Watch the Righteous Gemstones.
53:56
Season three costume designer Christina Flannery will be here
53:59
to talk about the season three costumes, but I really recommend
54:03
you watch the entire series so you're ready for that season
54:06
three conversation, which is the season that just ended.
54:09
So catching up because we have a lot of costumes to talk about.
54:13
Yes, we do. And in between your Righteous
54:17
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54:39
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54:43
Spencer. Have a blessed week.
54:49
It's been a good one, and my lie detector says that we spoke no
54:55
lies during those. Lines good.
54:57
There was no bullshit. Good, because I have.
55:00
A special talent. Well, you're going to need that
55:02
for righteous gemstones, so. See you all next week.
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