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Steve Price | May 22 · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price, but ending one over the show.
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Speaker 1: Steve Price with you And just when you thought Victoria's
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Speaker 1: government couldn't look any more dysfunctional, Tonight, fresh questions over
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Speaker 1: the suppression of a potentially explosive iback report involving former
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Speaker 1: Premier Daniel Andrews and Victoria's fire service, with media locked
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Speaker 1: out of a Supreme Court hearing today, and the refusal
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Speaker 1: to even identify the people or the person who are
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Speaker 1: bringing the suppression case. Plus, while surgery waitless blow out,
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Speaker 1: youth offenders walk free and taxpayers are footing the bill
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Speaker 1: for another wave of bureaucracy. Here's what's coming up on
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Speaker 1: the program tonight. As I said, another million dollar fire
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Speaker 1: bombing in Melbourne. Earlier today at a luxury car dealership
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Speaker 1: in Richmond, as outrage grows over sentences handed down to
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Speaker 1: two teenagers freed after pleading guilty to a booze producer's
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Speaker 1: warehouse fire, Liberal MP Georgia joins me live in the
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Speaker 1: studio to also to a hospital bed waiting times plus tonight,
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Speaker 1: more budget backlash, startup founder's revolt against Labour's capital gains
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Speaker 1: tax changes worn in the Albanizy government is punishing, innovation
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Speaker 1: and ambition. Catch up with Friday regular Campbell Newman and
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Speaker 1: our favorite cartoonist Mark Knight has had a field day,
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Speaker 1: budget bungles, hospital waiting lists and AFL superstars. Mark will
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Speaker 1: be with us in the studio, But first tonight. Not
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Speaker 1: a day passes when a lawless Melbourne doesn't toss up
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Speaker 1: another mindless fire bombing attack on a cigarette shop, a bar,
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Speaker 1: a nightclub and now attacks on prestige car yards. A
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Speaker 1: McLaren supercar valued of up to a million dollars was
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Speaker 1: destroyed this morning on Swan Street in Richmond and the
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Speaker 1: business set alight with two cleaners who were inside when
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Speaker 1: this happened. It was just lucky no one was injured
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Speaker 1: or worse, someone losing a life. A simple question I
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Speaker 1: have tonight, Well maybe not a simple answer. Why Melbourne
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Speaker 1: and not say Sydney or Brisbane or any other major city.
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Speaker 1: Why Melbourne is it? As some have reported, an offshore
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Speaker 1: crime gang boss or bosses who left the country to
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Speaker 1: avoid criminal charges, who started out with illegal cigarette smuggling
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Speaker 1: trade and now using threats to those outlets not willing
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Speaker 1: to break the law, or has the operation now spread
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Speaker 1: from tobacco to booze and now to the extortion of
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Speaker 1: hospitality venues like bars and clubs and even legitimate alcohol producers.
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Speaker 1: Simply pay up or will burn you down seems to
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Speaker 1: be the threat. Whatever Melbourne has a state government and
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Speaker 1: an underfunded and short start police force unable to it seems,
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Speaker 1: get this crime crisis under control. A crime wave usually
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Speaker 1: means the end of whatever government is in charge, and
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Speaker 1: that should be the case come November in Victoria. But bizarrely,
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Speaker 1: these fire bombings have become so commonplace Melbournians have started
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Speaker 1: shrugging their shoulders, shaking their heads and just saying, well,
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Speaker 1: who got attacked last night? ABC Radio in Melbourne has
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Speaker 1: an on the road reporter who's every morning for the
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Speaker 1: past two weeks reported back live on the street on
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Speaker 1: yet another one, another one this morning, that attack on
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Speaker 1: the Zagami car showroom in Richmond. But do you have
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Speaker 1: any wonder why operators who have been victims? See the
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Speaker 1: pair who pleaded guilty to torching a liquor business called
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Speaker 1: eighty Proof go to court the children's court, so no
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Speaker 1: names here. They are fifteen and sixteen years old. They
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Speaker 1: walked free. It's extraordinary. These two were among the first
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Speaker 1: arrest of fifty, yes, fifty years arrested by police task
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Speaker 1: force on Wednesday, as reported by the Herald Son, the
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Speaker 1: fifteen year old was sentenced to a fifteen month youth
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Speaker 1: supervision order and wait for it, no conviction recorded. When
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Speaker 1: you believe that, how is that even possible that business,
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Speaker 1: by one estimate eighty proof lost a million dollars worth
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Speaker 1: have legally manufactured alcohol products and these two walk free.
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Speaker 1: The fifteen year old spent a total of just twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours in jail. The sixteen year old got a
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Speaker 1: twelve month supervision supervision order, with the court being told
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Speaker 1: they were with a group of four that used a
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Speaker 1: really bin to scale offense and torched the warehouse before
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Speaker 1: escaping in a stolen white Range Rover. Of course, the
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Speaker 1: fifteen year old was also revealed in court to be
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Speaker 1: behind an attack on late night venue bar Bambi. You
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Speaker 1: have to ask yourself what's the point of police arresting
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Speaker 1: these teenagers when the court, when they get to court
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Speaker 1: and they appear before a magistrate, there's decisions made like that.
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Speaker 1: And whatever happened to this promise from Premier to Sina
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Speaker 1: Allen vowing adult crime would have adult time there.
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Speaker 2: Are too many victims and not enough consequences. It's why
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Speaker 2: Victoria will introduce adult time for violent crime, where the
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Speaker 2: courts will treat children for these crimes like adults, where
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Speaker 2: jail will be more likely and sentences will be longer.
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Speaker 1: Anyone who believes that's a full now, let me read
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Speaker 1: from a November press release last year from Allan's own office,
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Speaker 1: and it says, quote all children fourteen and above, so
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Speaker 1: that would take in the fifteen and sixty year old.
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Speaker 1: We're just talking about committing violent crimes like invading someone's
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Speaker 1: home or injuring someone with a machete will face adult
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Speaker 1: sentences in adult courts. But you see, that's all we
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Speaker 1: have a media release because, as the fine print reveals, quote,
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Speaker 1: the Allen government will implement this in Victoria with a
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Speaker 1: bill to be introduced this year. That means this year.
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Speaker 1: Fast forward to February this year, they brag about their
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Speaker 1: adult time for adult crime bail bill what was in place,
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Speaker 1: and further said, if you're fourteen and over in your
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Speaker 1: commit a home invasion or a serious vi and crime,
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Speaker 1: you face an adult court. Look, I'm no lawyer, but
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Speaker 1: does setting fire to a million dollars of someone else's
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Speaker 1: property with petrol not fit the definition of a white
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Speaker 1: violent crime. I mean, there was two cleaners in that
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Speaker 1: car showroom last night cleaning the joint when it was
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Speaker 1: set alight. Arson as an adult crime is a jailable offense.
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Speaker 1: It's dangerous, and it's potentially, as I said, deadly. But
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Speaker 1: of course, in a state ruled by a socialist labor
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Speaker 1: government for the past twelve years, a culture seeps into
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Speaker 1: parts of the judicial system that abhores locking up teenagers.
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Speaker 1: You then reap what you sew oppositions. Georgia Crozy will
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Speaker 1: join me in a sick but here was her liberal colleague,
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Speaker 1: Richard Ridden at a public estimate hearing this morning.
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Speaker 3: This is a new type of offending that we are seeing, Minister.
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Speaker 4: Arsonists have been a pain in the ass for decades
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Speaker 4: and centuries.
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Speaker 1: This is not new.
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Speaker 4: What is new is in Vicvictoria you can set fire
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Speaker 4: to car dealership, to bas to the Paco shops, and
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Speaker 4: you wake up the next day and you're warping around
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Speaker 4: the streets again.
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Speaker 1: Now there's an MP nailing what every other frustrated Victorian
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Speaker 1: in this state is thinking. I want to bring now
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Speaker 1: in bringing now the shadow Minister for Health, Georgia Crozier,
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Speaker 1: and we'll get onto health and the crippling surgery weight
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Speaker 1: list in Victoria in a moment. But amazingly, the Health Minister,
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Speaker 1: I mean, is blaming immigration, as you know, on the
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Speaker 1: weight list. But before I get to that, Richard Eden's right.
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Speaker 3: Of course, He's right, Steve.
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Speaker 5: He was just expressing what Victorians are frustrated with.
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Speaker 3: These firebombings are now commonplace. I moved a motion.
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Speaker 5: I put a motion into Parliament two weeks ago in
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Speaker 5: my own electrash. In the last five weeks, I've had
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Speaker 5: fourteen fire bombings fourteen four So for the Minister and
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Speaker 5: for the Premiere and for the government just to brush
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Speaker 5: this off is just incredible.
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Speaker 3: It's frightening what's happening out there. It's a law of states.
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Speaker 1: When you look back at her announcing that they were
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Speaker 1: going to bring in adult time for adult crime, copying
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Speaker 1: what happened in Queensland and the bill was coming that
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Speaker 1: came in February. Are you like me looking at that
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Speaker 1: and thing a year right, Yeah.
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Speaker 5: No, they've only put in five crimes. So that's in
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Speaker 5: contrast to us We've said we'd include twenty crimes.
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Speaker 3: Including us.
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Speaker 1: So are you're telling me that setting fire to that
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Speaker 1: million dollar car yard last night or the bloke's warehouse
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Speaker 1: full of booze is not a violent crime.
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Speaker 3: Of course, it's a violent crime.
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Speaker 5: And that's what's just so extraordinary that the government is
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Speaker 5: just washing their hands and just brushing these crimes off
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Speaker 5: with these kids, and they're just going to slap on
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Speaker 5: the wrist and it's the rinse and repeat. It's horrific
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Speaker 5: what's going on. I cannot believe that we are talking
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Speaker 5: about this, Steve. If it's Masheti crimes, stabbings, you know,
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Speaker 5: the fire bombings, the carjackings, the burglaries, everything, lawlessness is
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Speaker 5: out of control.
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Speaker 1: I go back to the question I asked at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the program. Was it not happening in Sydney
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Speaker 1: or melbourneor Brisbane or Adelite or anywhere else.
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Speaker 5: Because the consequences aren't being there. There are no consequences
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Speaker 5: for these crimes. We've got a lawless state. We've got
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Speaker 5: corruption that's rife. We've got organized crime here in this state.
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Speaker 5: It hasn't been stamped out. This government is weak.
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Speaker 1: You've been in politics a long time. Did you ever
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Speaker 1: think of to get this bad.
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Speaker 3: No, I can't believe when I'm walking.
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Speaker 1: I mean, as you know, I was on edge during
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Speaker 1: the heroine crisis that we had back whenever it was
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Speaker 1: back in the early two thousands. That was bad enough,
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Speaker 1: but nothing to the scale of what we got here.
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Speaker 5: The degradation of our state has slipped so fast, so quickly.
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm stunned about. And these crimes are violent crimes.
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Speaker 5: There's just a free for all, it seems to be.
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Speaker 5: There's chaos and almost anarchy in some parts. I mean,
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Speaker 5: and the terrorizing for those businesses that are being targeted,
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Speaker 5: it's terrifying and it's.
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Speaker 3: Like a terror attack on them.
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Speaker 1: To your shadow portfolio Health, Harriet Sching is trying to
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Speaker 1: blame immigration on waiting lists. Is the number of migrants
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Speaker 1: that have come here causing the problem?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 1: Or is it funding?
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Speaker 3: Steve?
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Speaker 5: This government will blame everyone and anyone for the failures in.
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Speaker 1: This How bad to the wait list?
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Speaker 5: There over sixty eight thousand Victorians are waiting, so it's
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Speaker 5: increased by eight thousand over the.
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Speaker 6: Party, the eight thousand four.
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Speaker 3: Thousand in the last three months.
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Speaker 5: What sort of surgery, Well, that's it's surgery like hips
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Speaker 5: and knee replacements, cataracts, hernias, you know, plastic surgery, reconstruction,
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Speaker 5: surgery that needs to be done.
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Speaker 1: So people who can't afford to go to private go
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Speaker 1: private and have a private operation.
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Speaker 5: Well it's necessary surgery. And their lives are on hold.
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Speaker 5: They're waiting in pain. They can't you know. It impacts
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Speaker 5: their jobs and impacts their employment, their families, their quality
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Speaker 5: of life, and they're getting sicker. And this government just
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Speaker 5: has they've lost control of the budget and they've certainly
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Speaker 5: lost control of the health system.
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Speaker 1: So those numbers that have gone completely through the roof,
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Speaker 1: I think they've jumped by about eight thousand compared to
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Speaker 1: last year. That's a big number, it's huge. It's good
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Speaker 1: as migrants apparently well, I mean if you break down
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Speaker 1: them migration figures, by the way, migrants coming in, most
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Speaker 1: of them have foreign students. Are not going off to
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Speaker 1: have hip hop operations.
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Speaker 5: Steve, it's just a cop out. I mean, they should
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Speaker 5: be planning for the immigration. We know that migrants are
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Speaker 5: coming every year to this state. This is a failure
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Speaker 5: of the government to address the needs of Victorians. We
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Speaker 5: warned about it, they ignored it, and now we are
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Speaker 5: in this situation where tens and tens of thous it's
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Speaker 5: more than sixty eight thousand. By the way, they don't
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Speaker 5: even collate all the figures, and you know that is
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Speaker 5: that is huge.
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Speaker 1: Now, how hard is it going to be to fix?
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not giving up. We can improve the situation.
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Speaker 5: We must improve the situation because this is out of
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Speaker 5: control and we need to be fixing the health system.
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Speaker 5: We need to be fixing the crime crisis.
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Speaker 1: I've got to ask you about IBEC. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is quite an extraordinary thing. I mean we've seen some
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Speaker 1: pretty extraordinary things in the last twelve years, you know,
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Speaker 1: involving pre Premier Dan me Andrews, and now the current
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Speaker 1: administration legal action has now been blocked publication of IBACKS
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Speaker 1: Operation Richmond. I had it written in my diary for
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Speaker 1: next week saying it was going to be released. You
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Speaker 1: would have thought it was going to be released. Suddenly
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Speaker 1: we have court action in the Supreme Court of Victoria
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Speaker 1: to not only not name the person who's taking the action,
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Speaker 1: but the media were actually then asked to leave the courtroom.
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Speaker 1: I want you to have a look at this is
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Speaker 1: justin quill media lawyer. What he had to say outside
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Speaker 1: the courtroom.
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Speaker 7: I'd love to be able to tell you why there
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Speaker 7: is so much secrecy around this case, but it's so
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Speaker 7: secret I can't. I just don't know. I don't know
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Speaker 7: who the parties are, I don't know what the arguments are,
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Speaker 7: and so I'm just not able to say why it
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Speaker 7: is that this case is really going on.
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Speaker 1: Extraordinary. I mean, what's it say about transparency?
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Speaker 5: Well, it says everything about transparency. There is no transparency
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Speaker 5: in this state. But Justin Quill is right, he's you know,
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Speaker 5: he's shocked by the secrecy around them.
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Speaker 1: Well, he was in there arguing, I presume on behalf
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Speaker 1: of news limited to get the names of whoever's bringing
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Speaker 1: the action.
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Speaker 5: But surely the Victorian public have a right to see
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Speaker 5: this report.
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Speaker 3: It's been ten years in the making.
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Speaker 1: They're stalling to keep this until November.
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Speaker 5: It wouldn't surprise me they have stalled and tried to
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Speaker 5: keep this under wraps for a long time.
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Speaker 3: It's been in the courts for months.
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Speaker 5: But every Victorian deserves to have this report released before
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Speaker 5: they go to the polls in November. Steve, that report
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Speaker 5: needs to be shared with every Victorian in the.
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Speaker 3: For the sake of this state.
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Speaker 5: For the sake of transparency, for the sake of proper
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Speaker 5: governance and government.
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Speaker 3: We need to see that report.
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Speaker 1: When you look at the desperate legal maneuvering to stop
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Speaker 1: it being released at the due date next Monday by
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Speaker 1: the actual corruption agency that did the investigationations, you've got
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Speaker 1: to speculate, which is always a dangerous thing to do
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Speaker 1: when we're dealing with courts, but you've got to speculate
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Speaker 1: there's something pretty bad in there.
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Speaker 5: Well, something's going on and victorians deserve to understand what's
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Speaker 5: in that report.
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Speaker 3: It must be shared, it must be made.
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Speaker 5: Public before voters go to the polls in November.
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Speaker 1: But how who can make that happen? I mean, who's
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Speaker 1: going to court to argue? I mean is IBACK don't know? Well,
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Speaker 1: IBACK itself surely has. Does IBAC have any legislative control
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Speaker 1: and power over its own reporting, Well it doesn't. It
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Speaker 1: report to Parliament.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's supposed to report to it's supposed to release
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Speaker 5: that report that as you said, you had that date
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Speaker 5: in your diary. And now we've got this blockage in
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Speaker 5: the courts and we don't know who is bringing that
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Speaker 5: action that even the media can't get in. I mean,
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Speaker 5: this is secrecy to the level that we've never seen.
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Speaker 5: And that's why I say the corruption that is so rife,
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Speaker 5: that is so extensive in this state. You know, this
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Speaker 5: is the This is mind blowing what's going on, and
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Speaker 5: this report needs to be released.
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Speaker 1: I think Victorians understand just how dangerously secretive this government
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Speaker 1: has become.
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Speaker 5: I think they're getting starting to get a sense of it.
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Speaker 5: They've seen the corruption, the fifteen billion.
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Speaker 3: Dollars in the big build. That was a wake up call.
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Speaker 5: But this is next level in terms of this document,
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Speaker 5: this Integrity Agency not being able to release this report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it very much. Thank you,
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Speaker 1: Stean Rijie Crazy. Now I want to talk about older
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Speaker 1: Australians tonight. I've written a column the Herald Sun about this.
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Speaker 1: Today they face extraordinary delays, like unbelievable delays of more
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Speaker 1: than a year trying to access basic age care support.
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Speaker 1: New figures reveal that Australians are waiting on average twelve
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Speaker 1: months for a home care package and more than three
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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six days if they want an agecre bid.
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Speaker 1: There comes amid broader concerns about pressure on the health
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Speaker 1: and age care systems and where the labour's reforms are
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Speaker 1: actually delivering result. Joining me in our shadow health spokesman
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Speaker 1: and Russian on line from Adelaide and speaking of Adelaide,
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Speaker 1: I sat with my ninety one soon to be ninety
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Speaker 1: two year old mother at the kitchen table of her
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Speaker 1: unit this week in Adelaide, two hour series of deeply
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Speaker 1: personal questions, only to be told well, we don't know
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Speaker 1: how long you're going to have to wait for any
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Speaker 1: package in South Australia. As you know, the wait time's
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Speaker 1: well passed a year. She's ninety one. And then to
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Speaker 1: be told well, your answers are fed into a computer
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Speaker 1: program and an algorithm will decide what level of support
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Speaker 1: you get. I mean they bagged you for robodebt. This
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Speaker 1: is so much worse when you're dealing with emotional people
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Speaker 1: of that age.
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Speaker 8: Well, Steve, I mean the terrible part of these is
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Speaker 8: that the story that you're just telling me about your
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Speaker 8: mum is a story that I've heard so many times.
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Speaker 8: I heard it yesterday when I was in Townsville. Ninety
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Speaker 8: year old move assessed as needing a Level eight package
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Speaker 8: and then got told he had to wait ten to
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Speaker 8: twelve months before he was going to get access to it.
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Speaker 8: I mean, a little late package is the last possible
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Speaker 8: package you get before you need to go into residential care.
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Speaker 8: They want to keep him at home and keep him
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Speaker 8: out of the system. Got told ten to twelve months.
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Speaker 8: I mean, quite frankly, at the age of ninety or
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Speaker 8: ninety two, ten to twelve months is a very long time.
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Speaker 8: So you know, this government has completely lost control of
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Speaker 8: age care. They came into promising the world in twenty
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Speaker 8: twenty two saying they're going to put the care back
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Speaker 8: into it agecare. All they've done is put the weight
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Speaker 8: back into weight lists. And they're great with the headline,
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Speaker 8: they love the announcement, but they have got absolutely no detail,
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Speaker 8: no delivery, and sadly, people like your mum, and hundreds
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Speaker 8: and hundreds of them, if not tens of thousands of them,
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Speaker 8: are currently well. We know two hundred thousand are waiting
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Speaker 8: for their home care packages as we're sitting here today,
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Speaker 8: are left in this terrible limbo because this government is
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Speaker 8: not doing its.
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Speaker 1: Off the back of that column, there's obviously normally a
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Speaker 1: lot of comments that I get from what I've written.
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Speaker 1: I just want to read briefly to you one of
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Speaker 1: the comments tonight from Andrew, he said, my father, ninety one,
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Speaker 1: was assisted in January, is needing level seven, which as
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Speaker 1: you know, is high. I was told that weight would
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Speaker 1: probably be ten months. So I wrote to Sam Ray,
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Speaker 1: who is the minister who's supposed to be running this operation.
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Speaker 1: Absolute crickets. My darling father passed away on April or
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, and guess what his funding came through on
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Speaker 1: the twenty first of May. There you go. I mean,
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Speaker 1: how disgusting is that?
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Speaker 8: Well, once again we heard story after story like the
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Speaker 8: one that your read your listeners just sent sent in
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Speaker 8: when we did the inquiry to age care. I mean,
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Speaker 8: the indignity of being left without care and dying while
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Speaker 8: you're waiting is just something that should not be happening
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Speaker 8: in a first world country like Australia. And the government
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Speaker 8: is actually rational care. They're withholding care. We don't even
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Speaker 8: think that. We can't find any real funding in the
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Speaker 8: budget for any new age care packages for the budget
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Speaker 8: that was brought down a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we've got.
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Speaker 8: Weightless blowing out, we've got waight times blowing out, and
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Speaker 8: the government's not even releasing any new packages. I mean,
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Speaker 8: I quite frankly do not know what this minister is doing.
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Speaker 8: And whilst I blame Sam Ray as the Minister for
19:29
Speaker 8: Age Care, a fair bit of this blame also goes
19:32
Speaker 8: to Mark Butler as his senior minister, and it goes
19:35
Speaker 8: to Anthony Alberanzi, who is actually at the top of
19:37
Speaker 8: the tree with this government.
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Speaker 3: He is the one who is.
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Speaker 8: Responsible, quite frankly, for older Australians dying while they're waiting
19:43
Speaker 8: for the care they've been Assessta's needing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Minister Butler realizes. I think that it's going to
19:50
Speaker 1: land on his desk at some point. I mean, I
19:52
Speaker 1: think the government's got to look at the job that
19:54
Speaker 1: Sam Ray is doing and if he's incapable of doing it,
19:56
Speaker 1: I need to move him on. I mean, this charming
20:00
Speaker 1: woman who came and did the interview said that even
20:03
Speaker 1: if once that goes into the computer and it spits
20:06
Speaker 1: out as it has that my mother is eligible for
20:09
Speaker 1: a level three, if the person doing the interview doesn't
20:13
Speaker 1: believe that that's adequate, they have been told not not
20:18
Speaker 1: to involve in any discussion with the person who's been
20:22
Speaker 1: through the interview about the fact that they think that
20:25
Speaker 1: the rating is not fair.
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Speaker 8: Well, they're actually not able to do anything. This algorithm
20:31
Speaker 8: that is spitting out the care levels that older Australians
20:34
Speaker 8: are being given has got no human override. And we
20:39
Speaker 8: have been screaming at the government now for months and
20:41
Speaker 8: months and months and saying to them, you need to
20:43
Speaker 8: apply human override if the computer is spitting out a
20:47
Speaker 8: result that is completely in contradiction to what the assessor,
20:51
Speaker 8: the clinical person who's doing the assessment believes the person needs.
20:55
Speaker 8: That should be an alarm bell in itself for it
20:58
Speaker 8: to actually be checked, but there is no mechanism whatsoever.
21:01
Speaker 8: And then the poor person who's been denied the care
21:04
Speaker 8: then has to go through this convoluted review process. We
21:07
Speaker 8: know every time, just about every time they go for review,
21:10
Speaker 8: the department takes the entire three months that they're allowed
21:13
Speaker 8: to take the review, and during that time these people
21:16
Speaker 8: are left without the care they need. And then the
21:19
Speaker 8: indignity of that's bad enough. Then when they get their
21:23
Speaker 8: packages they're told that they're only getting sixty percent of
21:26
Speaker 8: the package they've been assessed as needing. I mean, this
21:29
Speaker 8: government has some serious, serious questions to answer as to
21:33
Speaker 8: why it thinks it's okay to deny older Australians the
21:38
Speaker 8: care that the government itself has assessed that they need.
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Speaker 1: And it all comes about when they're rabbiting on all
21:45
Speaker 1: week about, you know, into generational fairness, and when what
21:48
Speaker 1: it appears to me is that at the other end
21:50
Speaker 1: of the life scale with elderly Australians, they're just saying, well,
21:53
Speaker 1: let's try and save as much money as we possibly
21:56
Speaker 1: can because we can't spend it. Well, we're in huge
22:00
Speaker 1: financial trouble. We're going to whack older people. I mean,
22:03
Speaker 1: the same week and we have the news that the rebate,
22:07
Speaker 1: the private health insurance rebate for those over sixty five
22:10
Speaker 1: was going down and that over seventy was going down
22:13
Speaker 1: even more. So you're going to force people who are
22:16
Speaker 1: already going without proper meals every day to afford to
22:21
Speaker 1: pay for their private health insurance. They're going to opt
22:23
Speaker 1: out and they're going to start crowding up public hospitals again.
22:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Well, look what we saw in the budget and what
22:29
Speaker 8: we've seen from this government is they're trying to make
22:31
Speaker 8: older Australians pay for their own policy failures. And this
22:35
Speaker 8: idea of intergenerational equity is just a load of tosh, because,
22:40
Speaker 8: as you rightly point out, if you force older Australians,
22:42
Speaker 8: many of whom are pensioners, who are scrimping and saving
22:45
Speaker 8: to make sure they can keep their private health insurance
22:47
Speaker 8: because it's so important to the older people because obviously
22:51
Speaker 8: when you're older, you rely on the health system more.
22:54
Speaker 8: But if you stop them or force them because they
22:57
Speaker 8: can no longer afford to pay for their private health
22:59
Speaker 8: insurance into the public system, the taxpayer ends up paying more.
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Speaker 8: The government's own report shows that it actually is a
23:09
Speaker 8: false economy. For every dollar that you save by taking
23:12
Speaker 8: away that additional rebate, it costs a dollar twenty. So,
23:16
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just it is nonsensical and I think
23:20
Speaker 8: the government needs to answer some questions about why it
23:22
Speaker 8: thinks it's okay to keep on lying to Australians about
23:26
Speaker 8: the impact of their policies. I mean, it's a bit
23:29
Speaker 8: like Albow. It is lying about your only card you
23:31
Speaker 8: need when you go to see the doctor as your
23:33
Speaker 8: Medicare card. This is just another lie that they're using
23:37
Speaker 8: to blame older Australians for their policy failures.
23:41
Speaker 1: Is it as blunt and obvious as the Labor Party thinks, okay,
23:47
Speaker 1: we can get We've got a huge majority after the
23:49
Speaker 1: last election. We'll keep our voter based younger Australians happy.
23:55
Speaker 1: You know, we doled out obviously the Heck's debt payoff
23:58
Speaker 1: for thousands of thousands of young students, INNI students. We
24:02
Speaker 1: don't need to worry about older Australians because you know,
24:05
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly they're probably Conservatives, or they vote Liberal or National
24:10
Speaker 1: or One Nation. Am I being too cynical suggesting that?
24:14
Speaker 8: Look, I don't think you're being too cynical. Sadly, I
24:18
Speaker 8: think we've all become cynical about how this government operates.
24:21
Speaker 8: But you know, the really rough thing about this whole
24:24
Speaker 8: intergenerational equity argument and pitching older Australians against younger Australians,
24:29
Speaker 8: you're actually pitting grandchildren against their grandparents. I mean, like,
24:33
Speaker 8: if anything could be more disgusting for a government to
24:37
Speaker 8: think that it's okay to actually create wars within families
24:41
Speaker 8: simply because they can't manage the finances of this country.
24:46
Speaker 8: And as I said, it is completely and utterly incongruous
24:51
Speaker 8: in the sense of by forcing older Australians into the
24:54
Speaker 8: public system, it's only going to cost taxpayers more anyway,
24:58
Speaker 8: and by they're very definite, taxpayers are younger working Australian
25:03
Speaker 8: So it is completely and utterly a load of spin
25:07
Speaker 8: and rubbish that the government is doing. But to pick
25:10
Speaker 8: grandchildren against their grandparents, I think is just taking low
25:14
Speaker 8: to a whole new level.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more and Russin, thank you very much for
25:19
Speaker 1: coming into the studio for us. Appreciate it. Okay, after
25:21
Speaker 1: the break, more of that budget backlash today, the impact
25:24
Speaker 1: on startups businesses like that. That's up next on the show.
25:34
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Steve Price with you Roundine coming up
25:36
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. I want to go
25:37
Speaker 1: back to the federal political fallout from Labour's budget. I mean,
25:41
Speaker 1: I've never seen a budget probably all the way back.
25:45
Speaker 1: You probably go back to the Joe Hockey budget that's
25:46
Speaker 1: been received so badly. Now Labour's budget and the government
25:50
Speaker 1: is actively discouraging the critics say investment and economic growth. Now,
25:56
Speaker 1: that's the opposite of what governments ought to be doing.
25:58
Speaker 1: So startup founders have launched an open letter campaign to
26:02
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister warning that Labour's capital gains tax changes
26:06
Speaker 1: will damage innovation, investment and entrepreneurship the last thing you
26:10
Speaker 1: want to do Friday night regular Former Queensland Premier Campbell
26:14
Speaker 1: Newman is hot to trot on this. That budget was
26:18
Speaker 1: a shocker in this capital gains tax area, wasn't it.
26:24
Speaker 9: Look Jim Chalmers has got labor into a veritable quagmist,
26:29
Speaker 9: even on this issue of capital gains tax. I'd really
26:32
Speaker 9: like to try and explain succinctly to viewers how this
26:35
Speaker 9: really impacts. And it's like this, My wife and I
26:39
Speaker 9: run a commercial property front with some partners, but we've also,
26:42
Speaker 9: over the last ten years been involved in many startups
26:45
Speaker 9: and indeed we've both served on startup company boards.
26:49
Speaker 10: You don't get paid much.
26:51
Speaker 9: Sometimes you don't get paid at all, and they want
26:53
Speaker 9: to pay you in shares. And you know what, out
26:56
Speaker 9: of every ten you might get involved in, Steve six
26:59
Speaker 9: of them go bus. He'll lose your money. You never
27:01
Speaker 9: get anything for it. A couple turn into zombies. You
27:04
Speaker 9: might get paid, you not, you might make a return,
27:08
Speaker 9: and then every now and then you'll get a couple
27:10
Speaker 9: that might do really, really well. But that was the
27:13
Speaker 9: excitement of it. You back them, you put your money in.
27:17
Speaker 9: But the point is the alternative is to put your
27:20
Speaker 9: money into some other investment. Could be a term deposit
27:24
Speaker 9: with the bank, it could be some great share on
27:28
Speaker 9: the ax which actually generates dividends, and the whole period
27:31
Speaker 9: of time you own that investment you will get a return.
27:34
Speaker 10: Now it was bad enough previously.
27:36
Speaker 9: With the high risks of getting involved in startups. Now
27:39
Speaker 9: with this whole thing with capital gains tax, when you
27:42
Speaker 9: get whacked. When you finally do make some money, you
27:45
Speaker 9: go why bother? And that's from someone Steve. I've been
27:49
Speaker 9: in politics, but I have been involved in tech startups
27:53
Speaker 9: for the last decade. This is a really bad policy.
27:57
Speaker 9: It's not bleating of Tories, labor people of saying it's
28:01
Speaker 9: not a scare campaign. It is a real issue that
28:05
Speaker 9: needs to be dealt with. Why because if we want
28:08
Speaker 9: the jobs of the future, if we want companies that
28:10
Speaker 9: will take this company country forward economically, we actually have
28:14
Speaker 9: to have a low capital gains tax that competes with
28:18
Speaker 9: the UK and the United States for example, that encourages
28:22
Speaker 9: people to have a go. And so I say, Treasurer
28:25
Speaker 9: Prime Minister teals you know, this isn't bleating, This isn't sort.
28:31
Speaker 10: Of rich people carrying on about it.
28:33
Speaker 9: These are youngsters in the main, people in their twenties
28:37
Speaker 9: and thirties in want to have a go and we
28:39
Speaker 9: should be getting behind and making this.
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Speaker 10: The best place in the world to start a new company.
28:45
Speaker 1: Well, Chalmers is a fellow Queenslander, I mean, explain the
28:49
Speaker 1: politics of this for me. So Treasury, someone in Treasury
28:52
Speaker 1: would come up with this idea and then it's been
28:56
Speaker 1: politically accepted by Jim Chalmers and he's convinced the Prime
29:00
Speaker 1: Minister and presumably are the people on the you know,
29:04
Speaker 1: the Economic Review Board or whatever committee sits around and
29:08
Speaker 1: ticks off on the budget and Katie Gallagher and those
29:10
Speaker 1: people do they not actually understand how business works? Are
29:15
Speaker 1: we are even being run by people running Treasury and
29:18
Speaker 1: Finance who don't actually understand how business works.
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Speaker 9: Sadly, Steve, I think that's the case. They didn't understand
29:27
Speaker 9: the implications of what they're doing.
29:28
Speaker 10: And I think there was a.
29:29
Speaker 9: Story about three days ago that suggested the extension of
29:35
Speaker 9: these CG two changes to think matters other than property
29:40
Speaker 9: were a late starter, that it was only in the
29:42
Speaker 9: last month that was put up. There was some leak
29:44
Speaker 9: about that because it really ricks of that this has
29:47
Speaker 9: to be changed. And by the way, it just shouldn't
29:50
Speaker 9: be for technology companies. Anybody like someone who's in agri business,
29:55
Speaker 9: someone who's in got a great idea for helping people
29:59
Speaker 9: with this abilities. I mean, you know, there's all sorts
30:02
Speaker 9: of sort of worthy to go to. Just shouldn't be
30:05
Speaker 9: a carve up for ten I've.
30:08
Speaker 1: Seen on Sky this week Jeanette Jeanette Ellis Alice who
30:12
Speaker 1: started boost Juice. I mean you're talking the language of her,
30:17
Speaker 1: because you know she could have come along to you
30:19
Speaker 1: and said Campbell, I think people will want to go
30:22
Speaker 1: to a bar in a shopping center and have five
30:25
Speaker 1: different flavors of fruit juice in a cardboard cup. And
30:28
Speaker 1: it's a great idea. And would you like to put
30:30
Speaker 1: in one hundred grand? When she said if this had
30:33
Speaker 1: been around back then, she would have fallen over, collapsed
30:35
Speaker 1: and would never have gone anywhere.
30:38
Speaker 9: Well you might as well have put the one hundred
30:40
Speaker 9: grand in a term deposit. Earn say at the moment,
30:43
Speaker 9: say five percent, five thousand dollars, no risk, no problem,
30:47
Speaker 9: You'll get your hundred grand back from the bank at
30:49
Speaker 9: the end of the of the term deposit period. Why
30:53
Speaker 9: would you do anything else when with startups. As I
30:56
Speaker 9: said before, most of them fail, and I don't know
31:02
Speaker 9: what we have to do to convince people like Jim
31:04
Speaker 9: Charmers and the PM that this is a real issue.
31:08
Speaker 10: More than tech startups. It is across the board.
31:10
Speaker 9: Anyone who wants to start a new business in the
31:13
Speaker 9: early stages, it's very risky. And there are then, of
31:17
Speaker 9: course all the bureaucratic challenges at our wonderful public servants
31:20
Speaker 9: around the nation continue to serve up at idiot politicians
31:24
Speaker 9: then put into law.
31:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see whether
31:28
Speaker 1: they got the moral courage to say we've got it
31:30
Speaker 1: wrong and change their mind. I mean, obviously you're two
31:32
Speaker 1: years away from an election, so who knows what they'll do.
31:35
Speaker 1: I want to ask you quickly about fracking. One nation
31:37
Speaker 1: seems to we're getting itself into a bit of a
31:39
Speaker 1: bother about opposition to gas fracking in South Australia. I
31:43
Speaker 1: worked on a radio station in Sydney where my colleague
31:46
Speaker 1: Allan Jones spent years railing against fracking in New South
31:50
Speaker 1: Wales and people put signs on their gates, you know,
31:53
Speaker 1: shut the Gate movement because they thought it was going
31:56
Speaker 1: to undermine the Artesian basin and ruin our water supply.
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Speaker 1: Then I look at America where they've become energy secure
32:04
Speaker 1: because of fracking. Who's right here.
32:09
Speaker 9: Well, the move against racking is a load of voodoo bs.
32:13
Speaker 9: And I did have a falling out personally with Alanova
32:16
Speaker 9: fracking here in Queensland. But look, you know we have
32:19
Speaker 9: been fracking in Queensland now for over a decade.
32:22
Speaker 10: We have now a massive energy export industry.
32:26
Speaker 9: There have not been the issues that all the naysayers
32:30
Speaker 9: talked about going back ten years ago with lock the gate.
32:33
Speaker 10: And guess what now the rest of Australia wants again.
32:36
Speaker 9: It's mits on Australian gas and say well you can't
32:39
Speaker 9: export it. Or you've got people like pauling Hanson wanting
32:42
Speaker 9: to put a twenty five percent tax on the companies
32:45
Speaker 9: after the event, and plenty of other people by the
32:48
Speaker 9: way advocating that.
32:49
Speaker 10: And then you've got the.
32:50
Speaker 9: Liberal Party in South Australia and one nation teaming up
32:55
Speaker 9: to go against the most pragmatic labor government probably we've
32:58
Speaker 9: got in the nation who want to actually build the economy,
33:02
Speaker 9: being the Melanascus government there against fracking on the Limestone case, well, guys.
33:07
Speaker 10: You know you can't have it both ways. You're either
33:09
Speaker 10: for Australia to.
33:11
Speaker 9: Be energy self secure, self sufficient, or you're not because
33:16
Speaker 9: you need to actually use these technologies to actually go
33:19
Speaker 9: after this gas. So I've been actually quite disappointed in
33:23
Speaker 9: one nation stance. I'm of course really sort of angry
33:29
Speaker 9: about the Liberal Party stance.
33:31
Speaker 10: I mean they're the.
33:32
Speaker 9: Ones who brought this moratorium in. I mean it's complete nonsense.
33:36
Speaker 9: And again I as a Queensland I am stung by
33:40
Speaker 9: Southern states and political and business operatives then go oh.
33:45
Speaker 10: Why is queens aren't exporting all this gas?
33:48
Speaker 9: Well, because we frack up here, because we built an
33:51
Speaker 9: industry that actually earns export dollars and gives people jobs.
33:55
Speaker 10: You can't have it both ways.
33:58
Speaker 1: And builds hospitals and schools and all the rest of
34:00
Speaker 1: what things we need in the country. Kevin, you even
34:02
Speaker 1: a It's good to catch up on a Friday night.
34:04
Speaker 1: I'll see you next weekday. I want to cross quickly
34:06
Speaker 1: now to a late breaking story in the UK where
34:08
Speaker 1: the sou afternoon there are reports British police are reportedly
34:11
Speaker 1: considering claims of sexual misconduct and corruption against Andrew mount
34:17
Speaker 1: Batton Windsor for an update. Sky News contributor Adrian Hayes. Adrian,
34:22
Speaker 1: I thought Andrew was in big enough trouble, but this
34:26
Speaker 1: has taken it to another level.
34:29
Speaker 11: Yeah, the story that won't go away.
34:30
Speaker 12: Look for all his wrongdoings and misjudgments Christ's decision making,
34:35
Speaker 12: he would have sort of claimed that there was nothing illegal.
34:38
Speaker 12: But when you get into the misconduct in public office,
34:42
Speaker 12: which covers by the way, sharing confidential information, fraudent conduct, dishonesty,
34:48
Speaker 12: and various other things, but it also includes sexual misconducts,
34:52
Speaker 12: then the stakes have been raised quite a bit.
34:54
Speaker 11: So it's certainly a step up.
34:58
Speaker 1: Well, the reports are saying considering charge as they're not
35:01
Speaker 1: saying that he will be Has there been any development
35:06
Speaker 1: since said story broken. I'm not sure what the source
35:09
Speaker 1: for this was, but they must be talking to police.
35:13
Speaker 1: Police must be seriously considering this.
35:15
Speaker 12: You'd think, yeah, look, it's not going to be a
35:18
Speaker 12: quick decision.
35:19
Speaker 11: I've I know myself.
35:20
Speaker 12: At Thames Valley police are interviewing the lawyers of one
35:24
Speaker 12: woman that was supposedly allegedly trafficked to cross the world
35:28
Speaker 12: for sexual favors for Andrew. So it's not going to
35:33
Speaker 12: be something quick as I said, I think the misconduct
35:35
Speaker 12: public office of the sharing of a confidential information to
35:39
Speaker 12: Jeffrey Epstein is the biggest threat that he faces, or
35:42
Speaker 12: the biggest charge. But when you get into the sexual
35:44
Speaker 12: misconduct's talking about the instigation or the using someone's power
35:49
Speaker 12: to instigate sexual or inappropriate relationships. It's all about that
35:54
Speaker 12: abuse of power. So he is an even more trouble.
35:58
Speaker 12: It's been a great few weeks for the royal family
36:00
Speaker 12: with Prince Charles, King Charles, the USA, Prince William's stuff,
36:04
Speaker 12: and now, as I said, the story that just won't
36:06
Speaker 12: go away.
36:07
Speaker 11: It keeps coming back to haunt them.
36:10
Speaker 1: Does it ever? Adrian, thank you mate, I'll talk to
36:12
Speaker 1: you soon. Adrian Hayes there. I mean, look, the King's
36:14
Speaker 1: already booted Andrew out of his house, and he's also
36:17
Speaker 1: stripped him of every title. What else can he do? Okay?
36:20
Speaker 1: Also coming up after the break, our favorite cartoonist, Mark Night.
36:23
Speaker 1: He'll be with us in the studio to show us
36:25
Speaker 1: the cartoons of the week. Welcome back panel coming up shortly.
36:34
Speaker 1: It's been a huge we can use yet again and
36:37
Speaker 1: who better? There is no better man to capture it
36:40
Speaker 1: in artworks than our man in the Herald Sun cartoonist
36:45
Speaker 1: Mark Knight. He's in the studio with us again. You've
36:47
Speaker 1: been blessed with the news stories of the week and
36:52
Speaker 1: some of these political characters. Now, did you come up
36:57
Speaker 1: with the Jim Reaper tag or did you just inherit
37:01
Speaker 1: that it's obvious, isn't it? I think so.
37:05
Speaker 13: I think it comes from you know, he's a big
37:07
Speaker 13: fan of Paul Keating.
37:08
Speaker 1: Did he do his pH d on him?
37:11
Speaker 3: Yeah?
37:11
Speaker 6: Can you do that?
37:14
Speaker 13: So there's obviously the overtones of Keating with Jim Charmers,
37:18
Speaker 13: and we used to draw Keating as the the undertaking.
37:21
Speaker 1: There we are Jim, Jim Reaper. What's he burying?
37:26
Speaker 6: Your negative gearing in capital gains? Tax breaks? And of
37:30
Speaker 6: course it's not a sad day for Jim. It is,
37:34
Speaker 6: oh happy days.
37:36
Speaker 13: But the investors standing around watching the casket go down,
37:38
Speaker 13: I'm not so happy.
37:39
Speaker 1: He's good to draw, isn't he, Because he's got those
37:42
Speaker 1: big ears and and sort of buck teeth if I
37:44
Speaker 1: can say.
37:45
Speaker 6: Buck teeth, big nose. I think he's starting to look
37:48
Speaker 6: like Keating more every day.
37:49
Speaker 1: Actually, one of your best Treasurers cartoons ever involved a
37:53
Speaker 1: politician who I was quite friendly with Joe Hockey and
37:55
Speaker 1: Mattias Corman when they brought down a budget which was
37:58
Speaker 1: pretty rough on a lot of people, and they were
38:01
Speaker 1: court sitting outside the Treasury building sucking onto massive cigars.
38:06
Speaker 1: You've reprised it.
38:08
Speaker 13: We never forget, we never forgot. And that photograph of
38:11
Speaker 13: Mattias and Hockey was a ripper. And so I thought,
38:15
Speaker 13: this budget is catching as much I guess outrage from
38:20
Speaker 13: the public. It's it's it's getting pretty hot out there.
38:22
Speaker 6: So I thought this is a nice way to sort
38:25
Speaker 6: of justin thing.
38:25
Speaker 1: I'd say, I wouldn't pick elbow as a cigar man,
38:29
Speaker 1: to be honest.
38:30
Speaker 6: Well, I guess that's that's that's the sort of.
38:32
Speaker 1: Ability of the car to be more using a vape.
38:35
Speaker 1: I think cigars a bit manly for our PM. E's
38:39
Speaker 1: on one of those strawberry.
38:40
Speaker 13: Vapes and he'd be holding Toto on Toto would be like.
38:45
Speaker 1: Total sorry for that dog. Then you've got speaking of
38:49
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister, you've wheeled out the lie detector.
38:53
Speaker 6: Yeah, look he was, you know, the video footage is there.
38:57
Speaker 13: So I thought, from you know, campaigns from now, when
39:01
Speaker 13: we have a press conference.
39:02
Speaker 6: I think he's got to be wired up to what we.
39:05
Speaker 13: Call the polygraph, but that's poly spelled powl ie.
39:09
Speaker 1: He really has, you know, he has turned political lying
39:13
Speaker 1: into an art form. I knowe the nose is getting
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Speaker 1: progressively bigger than as the lies keep coming out.
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Speaker 13: It has grown somewhat in that one, and I think
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Speaker 13: that's an indicator.
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Speaker 6: Stephen.
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Speaker 13: Maybe you don't need a polygraph, Maybe you just need
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Speaker 13: the nose monitor.
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Speaker 1: The good news story of the week Delta Gudrum. I
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Speaker 1: didn't actually happen to catch her at Eurovision, but I
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Speaker 1: saw some clips of it. She's a superstar. How does
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Speaker 1: she not win? Too good?
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Speaker 10: People said she was too good.
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Speaker 6: They couldn't they couldn't give it to her. She was
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Speaker 6: too good.
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Speaker 13: And I guess they don't want Australia to win because
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Speaker 13: I hear that we might be forced out maybe of
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Speaker 13: the competition in the future, so.
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Speaker 1: They why are we in the Eurovision anyway? What's why
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Speaker 1: is Albow there?
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Speaker 10: Well?
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Speaker 13: How every week Albow was looking for a diversion.
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Speaker 10: Ah, he was.
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Speaker 13: There was a press conference I think it was on
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Speaker 13: the Sunday on the Monday, and he stopped talking about
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Speaker 13: the budget and said, how good is Delta? Goodroom and look,
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Speaker 13: I mean Delta, what a force of nature she is, all.
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Speaker 6: Those flames, her amazing.
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Speaker 13: Voice, a costume, she rose above the stage. But I
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Speaker 13: still don't think she was able to deflect attention from
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Speaker 13: the budget.
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Speaker 1: No, I think Albert was wishing in the wind. There.
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Speaker 1: Someone who really did achieve something this week, and you
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Speaker 1: did draw, was the young Melbourne girl who managed to
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Speaker 1: reach of Mount Everest. Is that not the best good?
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Speaker 6: Like the week at eighteen? What were you doing at eighteen?
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Speaker 6: I was climbing Mount Dandenong.
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Speaker 1: I was Man Eliza, watching skyhooks in a public sticky
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Speaker 1: carpet and getting drunk and smoking cigarettes.
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Speaker 13: Probably this young girl woman is look, I think she's
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Speaker 13: got to.
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Speaker 1: Be an inspiration in comparison to so.
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Speaker 13: When I was drawing the cartoon, and I'm sitting there
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Speaker 13: and I listened to news as I draw, and there
40:54
Speaker 13: were reports of ongoing fire bombings in.
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Speaker 1: No but Melbourne. Yes you're kidding, are you? No?
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Speaker 13: Funnily enough kids were arrested with machetes, and I suddenly
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Speaker 13: this compare and contrast just just happened in front of me.
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Speaker 6: The drawing changed and I drew that's brilliant.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And absolutely brilliant.
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Speaker 6: Well the news I could tell you.
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Speaker 13: Bianca's grandmother rang me and said, really, and I have
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Speaker 13: a copy of that of my granddaughter.
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Speaker 1: So that you're going to cut it in half and
41:25
Speaker 1: get rid of the Maiti got on the other side.
41:28
Speaker 1: We finished the show last week talking about late breaking
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Speaker 1: news that Jacinda Allen it's called dropping a dead duck
41:36
Speaker 1: or yeah, yes, taking out the trash, dead rat bounce
41:39
Speaker 1: or dead cat bounce. That Dan Andrews is going to
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Speaker 1: get a statue. It's in bronze, it's underway, so it
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Speaker 1: may be up and erected by the time we get
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Speaker 1: to the election in November. Oh, great news, there it is.
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Speaker 1: Now you've got pigeons doing what pigeons do well on
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Speaker 1: bronze statues.
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Speaker 13: Not everybody was happy no this statue.
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Speaker 1: Former Collingwood Captain t Shaw Yes Sony Yes has said
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Speaker 1: that if we charge everyone a dollar to go and
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Speaker 1: pee on the statue, we could retire the state dead.
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Speaker 6: We could go into surplus price.
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Speaker 13: Well, I think the pigeons are the only ones happy,
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Speaker 13: overwhelmingly happy with the statue.
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Speaker 1: I think that'll be good on you, Mark, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Look forward to another week for Mark Knight. How good
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Speaker 1: is he is? Brilliant as usual? Coming up after the break,
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Speaker 1: nearly nine in ten Victorian streets have been stated for
42:30
Speaker 1: can you believe it, thirty kilometer in our speed limit reductions.
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Speaker 1: I can't drive at thirty and already boasting flawless safety records,
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Speaker 1: So why are we pursuing these nanny state restrictions? The
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Speaker 1: panel next, welcome back to Friday Night. It's nearly nine
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Speaker 1: in ten Victorian streets. We're now told are going to
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Speaker 1: be sated for thirty kilometer in our speed limit reductions.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's not bad enough, they're in a
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Speaker 1: lawless state, We're now going to be living in a
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Speaker 1: nanny state. Who knows what this is actually going to do.
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Speaker 1: I certainly can't drive at thirty kilometers an hour. Friday
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Speaker 1: Panel join us sky is contributor of course, Joe HILDEBROWND
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Speaker 1: and multimedia reporter at the Herald Sun, Grace Frost. Great
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Speaker 1: to see you both. A bit of this speed limit story.
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Speaker 1: Grace broke this afternoon, some new details. How many roads
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Speaker 1: is this going to affect? And can you please promise
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Speaker 1: it's not going to be anywhere near where I live?
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Speaker 14: So it is one hundred and sixty five roads in
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Speaker 14: total across four council areas in Victoria that are going
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Speaker 14: to be funded through this one million dollar Allen government
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Speaker 14: thirty kilometer speed limited trial that is going ahead.
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Speaker 10: So we broke that. Yeah, today, it.
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Speaker 3: Was a lot of data. It was a bit of
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Speaker 3: a doozy.
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Speaker 1: To find that nine to ten of.
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Speaker 14: Those roads, so one hundred and forty one roads already
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Speaker 14: have a perfect safety record, zero crashes in the last
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Speaker 14: three years, So why do we need it?
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Speaker 3: Anyway?
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Speaker 1: Joe, you'd also want to ask the question, why is
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Speaker 1: it going to cost a million dollars to introduce it?
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Speaker 1: Don't you just go out and take out the sixty
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Speaker 1: kilometer sign and put in the thirty one? Is that
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Speaker 1: really going to cost a million dollars?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 15: And also, what's the point of even driving a car
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Speaker 15: If you have to drive it at thirty kilometers an hour,
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Speaker 15: you might as well be driving a skateboard. And if
44:19
Speaker 15: a skateboard is going to fulfill your purposes, you'll probably
44:21
Speaker 15: be riding one already instead of actually having a car.
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Speaker 15: So my suggest would be why not, you know, why
44:27
Speaker 15: stop halfway? What you're basically doing is making it completely
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Speaker 15: pointless to be driving a car and just punishing people
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Speaker 15: out of it. And so why have the roads in
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Speaker 15: the first place. And of course they have to have
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Speaker 15: the roads because people have driveways, because they need to
44:43
Speaker 15: access their cars, because they need their cars to get
44:46
Speaker 15: to work, to get to school, to do the school run.
44:48
Speaker 15: And again we have the same problem in Sydney too,
44:51
Speaker 15: it's not as extreme, but where they're bringing down the
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Speaker 15: speed limits not even just on quiet suburban residential roads,
44:58
Speaker 15: but on major roads, major thoroughfares. And because of the
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Speaker 15: way this city kind of evolved, a lot of main
45:05
Speaker 15: streets are also main roads that people use to get
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Speaker 15: to We've got you know, the Princess Highway goes right
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Speaker 15: through Newtown and now it's forty kilometers an hour in
45:15
Speaker 15: the bits with all the hipsters on them. So I
45:18
Speaker 15: think it is it is It is basically just an
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Speaker 15: ideological push to make cars, make it make it not
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Speaker 15: worth even having a car, a littlone driving one.
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Speaker 1: Well, it gives me even more reason to move to Italy,
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Speaker 1: where you can drive as fast as you like in
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Speaker 1: any car you want, no matter what it is, a
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Speaker 1: Fiat Bambino or a Ferrari, and you can do two
45:36
Speaker 1: hundred kilometers an hour on the motorway and the police
45:38
Speaker 1: they actually salute you when you go past driving Grace.
45:43
Speaker 1: We also saw an altercation between one of Pauline Hanson's
45:46
Speaker 1: advisors this weekend, a journalist and then Pauline herself. Let's
45:50
Speaker 1: have a listen to that.
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Speaker 11: We just did you, yes, I did tell you.
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Speaker 3: Shot and it didn't end there.
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Speaker 5: As the One Nation leader and her minders walked away,
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Speaker 5: there was a second colorful exchange.
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Speaker 6: That would.
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Speaker 1: Grace. No wonder One Nation's votes are going through the roof,
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Speaker 1: because that's what Ossie's would love to see.
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Speaker 3: Oh gosh.
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Speaker 14: I mean, the only thing that I can say to
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Speaker 14: this is I think that respect is called for in
46:36
Speaker 14: every situation.
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Speaker 10: What the heck was that?
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Speaker 1: Joe, You've been around a long time. What do you
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Speaker 1: make of One nation reaction to your reporting? Colleagues.
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Speaker 15: I've certainly heard much worse in many a newsroom and
46:52
Speaker 15: probably quite a few press conferences.
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Speaker 1: But no, I think it is unbecoming.
46:55
Speaker 15: For a political leader to be or her mind as
46:58
Speaker 15: to be behaving like that. I mean, if Anthony Albanezi
47:01
Speaker 15: and his mind has did something like that, the right
47:03
Speaker 15: would be up in arms. So I think, you know, Pauline,
47:06
Speaker 15: if she is going to be a major force, if
47:08
Speaker 15: she is going to be potentially, you know, the second
47:11
Speaker 15: major party in Australia, then she's going to have to
47:15
Speaker 15: start acting like it if she's going to have a
47:17
Speaker 15: hope of actually forming sort of mainstream, widespread support. But
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Speaker 15: other than that, you know, we're tough enough to take it.
47:24
Speaker 1: News today that our old network Joe is going to
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Speaker 1: I'm a celebrity, Get me out of here. The only
47:29
Speaker 1: reason I'm covering this story tonight because I was on
47:33
Speaker 1: there in twenty seventeen and it allows me to show
47:35
Speaker 1: vision on my own show of what I looked like
47:38
Speaker 1: when I was ten kilos lighter. Let's have a quick
47:42
Speaker 1: look at what unfolded when I was there. There, I
47:45
Speaker 1: am in a jeep. I'm frowning because I've got no
47:47
Speaker 1: idea who any of the rest of the people are.
47:50
Speaker 1: I had to slide down off this rock after being
47:53
Speaker 1: repelled out of a helicopter. If you can believe that
47:56
Speaker 1: these people are laughing, I don't know what's funny about it.
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Speaker 1: And then I did a bungee jump, which I never
48:02
Speaker 1: thought i'd ever do in my life. And I lived
48:06
Speaker 1: to tell the tale. And then I got stuff thrown
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Speaker 1: at me. I ate kudoo testicles. The whole thing was
48:13
Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting. But it's a pity the show's been canceled
48:16
Speaker 1: because look at me there. Oh what a specimen I am, Grace,
48:21
Speaker 1: Look at that kissing Dane swan of all things amazing.
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Speaker 1: It was good fun. So there you go. There's me
48:28
Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen. It's a pity I don't look
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Speaker 1: as good as that anymore.
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Speaker 15: It's pretty alive on there, Crisis.
48:37
Speaker 1: We love Channel ten. We know that, Joe. They've been
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Speaker 1: very kind to you and me over the years. Grace,
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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us again. Thank you Joe for
48:43
Speaker 1: joining us as well. Coming up after me, it is
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Speaker 1: Rowan Dean, who, of course always caused trouble on a
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Speaker 1: Friday night