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- 0:00Hello, and welcome to today's episode of Thrive After 45.
- 0:05I'm Denise Drink, heart whisperer, midlife mirror and mentor.
- 0:10And every week I am honored to share energy and space with inspiring guests whose stories reflect.
- 0:18So many possibilities of thriving beyond 45.
- 0:21Together we uncover the whispers of the heart, the power of midlife transformation, and the wisdom that fuels expansion.
- 0:30What if the next chapter, if your midlife was not limited by borders at all, but expanded by opportunities, careers, and possibilities you never imagined exploring?
- 0:45It is an absolute.
- 0:46Honor and a privilege to welcome and introduce Andy Chek to our show today.
- 0:52Andy is an immigration attorney who has spent more than 40 years guiding international professionals through one of the most confusing and overwhelming systems out there, navigating work visas and crossing borders into new career opportunities over the decades.
- 1:12He has helped.
- 1:13Thousands of individuals overcome the complexities of US immigration law and step into futures.
- 1:20They once thought were totally out of reach.
- 1:23But what makes Andy's presence especially meaningful for us women in midlife who are reinventing ourselves, exploring new professional chapters, or even considering opportunities beyond familiar borders.
- 1:40Andy doesn't just specialize in law.
- 1:43He specializes in transition, reinvention, and opening doors.
- 1:47People didn't even realize were available to them.
- 1:51And today we're gonna explore his wealth of experience and the deeper human side of immigration.
- 1:57How movement, career evolution, and possibility intersect.
- 2:02In powerful ways and somewhere in our conversation I will ask Andy a very important question about the misconceptions about US work Visas welcome to our show today, Andy.
- 2:17It's great to have you.
- 2:17Thanks, uh, I'm delighted to be with you today and I'm looking forward to our discussion.
- 2:24Before we came on the air, Andy said, I can't wait.
- 2:27I've got some wonderful ideas that I wanna share with the audience because transitions.
- 2:34Is something that he is very familiar with.
- 2:37Obviously with the work you do as an immigration lawyer, right?
- 2:40Right.
- 2:41That's all about transitions Correct.
- 2:43And very unknown transitions, right?
- 2:46Correct.
- 2:48What are some of the stumbling blocks that you have noticed over the years that are most common for people who are in this?
- 2:57I want to move.
- 2:59I want to work elsewhere.
- 3:00I want to change everything.
- 3:02That will give me a new beginning.
- 3:04Well, that's a great question to start with.
- 3:07Uh, you know the saying the grass is always greener.
- 3:10Mm-hmm.
- 3:11Uh, there's a bit of that in immigration, and I'll just still, I'll just share one story about how that may be true.
- 3:17Sure.
- 3:18I used to practice in Edmonton, Alberta, which is one of the coldest cities in the world.
- 3:24And, uh, one day a client came in to see me.
- 3:28He was from Florida and I thought, wow, this is interesting.
- 3:31Most people from Edmonton dream about, uh, you know, moving to Florida, this guy's moving up to Edmonton Naval, right?
- 3:39So I asked him, well, why are you coming up to Edmonton?
- 3:43Yeah.
- 3:43He said, well, it's very simple, you know, we are having a delightful life in Florida.
- 3:48We had a nice house and, uh, near the ocean and so on.
- 3:52Mm-hmm.
- 3:52But unfortunately, one day.
- 3:55Uh, you know, uh, a storm came and it was a terrible storm, you know, and, and it, uh, washed us out basically that the, the town where we were living, uh, you know, they, they had a hard time of it had to recover.
- 4:11And after that storm.
- 4:13Uh, hurricane.
- 4:14Mm-hmm.
- 4:15Uh, he looked down the street that he lived on and he saw one sign for sale House, you know, house for sale.
- 4:21Mm-hmm.
- 4:22So it started in thinking, but he thought, well, this is Florida, you know, beautify, you know, or you know.
- 4:28Mm-hmm.
- 4:28These hurricanes are, you know, once in a while, but unfortunately the next year they had another hurricane.
- 4:35No.
- 4:36Yes.
- 4:37And uh, at the end of the hurricane, again, he looked down the street and he saw.
- 4:43Like multiple for sale signs.
- 4:45Oh wow.
- 4:47And that was a signal for him.
- 4:49You know, I think I better pick up and go somewhere else.
- 4:53Now, Edmonton's not the end of the world, but you can almost see the end of the world from Edmont.
- 5:01So.
- 5:03Now, I grew up in Edmonton, so I don't want to be too, uh, dismissive of the, of the, the city.
- 5:07Of course, growing up it's one of the greatest places on earth to, to live in.
- 5:12Mm-hmm.
- 5:12You can walk out the house without even locking the door.
- 5:15Come back five hours later and you're fine.
- 5:18Right.
- 5:18That's the kind of life you can have in Edmonton.
- 5:21Mm-hmm.
- 5:22So.
- 5:23It's understandable why this person came up, uh, in that context.
- 5:27Sure.
- 5:28Yeah.
- 5:29So that's a little example of, uh, yeah.
- 5:31What we're talking about.
- 5:33Yeah.
- 5:33So interesting because.
- 5:38Catastrophes happen, and sometimes those are the things that are the precipice for change.
- 5:45I would love to have it where we don't have to face big trauma traumatic events, whether they're within our ability to change or not, but the result being the idea of people choosing.
- 6:02To change location, not for the purpose.
- 6:06It, and it would be ideal if it's not for the purpose to get away from something, but to explore other possibilities like I shared in the beginning.
- 6:14Do you find that people, um, or is it all over the map as to why people.
- 6:19Move into Andy help.
- 6:22I need your help.
- 6:24I, I have to say often it's a push rather than a pull meaning.
- 6:28Okay.
- 6:29I don't like, for example, whether in Toronto or the economy or whatever.
- 6:34Sure.
- 6:35But here's a strange thing, for example, yeah.
- 6:37I think Canadians, by and large.
- 6:40Are not too thrilled with, uh, president Trump and, you know, his Sure.
- 6:44Saying he wants Canada to be the next state and so on, right?
- 6:48So, uh, I find I'm mm-hmm.
- 6:52Such a person.
- 6:53Now, I'm a member of the US and Canadian bars.
- 6:56I like, I, I lived, I, I practiced in Los Angeles for 10 years and in New York for five, right?
- 7:02So I know all about America, right?
- 7:04And I like America.
- 7:05I love America.
- 7:06Yeah.
- 7:07But I'm kind of surprised because right now the traffic is going southbound you.
- 7:14You might think as a Canadian, you know, you think Americans a lot may be right enchanted and wanna come up north, right?
- 7:22Some are.
- 7:23But it's not a big tidal wave or anything like that.
- 7:26So to each his or her own, you know, they see life differently than perhaps we do.
- 7:34Right.
- 7:34Um, and it's the life of opportunity that they're looking for.
- 7:39Mm-hmm.
- 7:39Mainly.
- 7:40Mm-hmm.
- 7:40Climate is one thing.
- 7:41Sure.
- 7:42But often it's economic, you know, uh, better jobs, better um, living conditions, um, cheaper.
- 7:50Uh, lifestyles, uh, these kind of things that attract people to go southbound.
- 7:55Okay.
- 7:56And so that's in the realm of what you're talking about, which is choosing something better for yourself and for your family, and perhaps for your growth economically.
- 8:06Uh, for example, in my practice, there are a lot of, uh, entrepreneurs mm-hmm.
- 8:10Mm-hmm.
- 8:10Who are interested in going southbound.
- 8:12So they're business people.
- 8:14They, they see a, a better business opportunity down there.
- 8:17They wanna, you know, uh, uh, get a, a taste of, uh, the American Dream sort of.
- 8:24Right.
- 8:24There you go.
- 8:25And, and I have, I like to tell my clients, you know, mm-hmm.
- 8:28They say, well, are there, you know, how's it going with other clients?
- 8:30I'd like to tell'em that I have clients.
- 8:34Who went down to the United States, say 20 or 30 years ago, they're multi-millionaires.
- 8:39Mm-hmm.
- 8:40They kick their feet up onto the, you know, to the desk and smoke cigars and count their money.
- 8:46And Andy Chu is someone they forgot about long time ago.
- 8:50You know, there are people like that.
- 8:52Mm-hmm.
- 8:53And there is that kind of a life.
- 8:55Um, and then there are others who maybe, uh, you know, they move, but.
- 8:59Uh, life is not, uh, you know, all, uh, you know, uh, rosy and perfect.
- 9:06Yeah.
- 9:06Uh, yeah.
- 9:07But the thing is just the idea and the effort is what makes us human.
- 9:14Yes.
- 9:14And what makes it all worthwhile.
- 9:16You know, why not try, why not do better, so to speak.
- 9:21Right.
- 9:22So is there a process that you find is really important for people who are listening right now and going, you know, Denise, I never even thought that this is a possibility to look at moving out of not only province if you're in Canada or if you're in the States moving outta state into province.
- 9:44Like, is that something that, um, there's, there's.
- 9:49Ideas that are really important to consider when you're listening to this for the first time and all of a sudden we've given you a new placeholder possibility.
- 10:01I'll give you a, here's a visual that you can, uh, do for yourself.
- 10:04I have here in my hand a tape measure.
- 10:08Mm-hmm.
- 10:09And I'm just gonna draw an analogy that I think may, uh, perfect make sense for you.
- 10:14If, let's say we put, uh, one inch equals one year in your life.
- 10:22Okay.
- 10:22Let me ask you, uh, Denise, how long do you think, uh, most women live.
- 10:29Uh, to what age do most women live?
- 10:31Um, I'm going to say 80 to 90.
- 10:3688 is right.
- 10:37Statistically it's around 80.
- 10:39And for men it might be slightly lower.
- 10:4180, 79, 70, or it's around the 80 mark.
- 10:45So let's just say 80.
- 10:46Okay, sure.
- 10:47And if you take a tape measure and you allow one inch per year Yeah.
- 10:53Yeah.
- 10:53And you stretch it out.
- 10:56Uh, to how old you are and go on all the way to 80, right.
- 11:00And put your finger on your age right now.
- 11:03Okay.
- 11:04It's amazing.
- 11:05And I encourage everybody to do that at home.
- 11:07Yeah.
- 11:08With their children.
- 11:10And put your finger down what age you're on right now.
- 11:13Yep.
- 11:13You suddenly realize, oh my goodness, I don't have that much time left.
- 11:17You know, I've lived a lot of my life already.
- 11:20Mm-hmm.
- 11:20Like, I just got a few, you know, a guy like me, I got just a few years still to go.
- 11:25Right.
- 11:26Yeah.
- 11:26Um, if you're 25, you got a lot to go still, but, you know.
- 11:29Right.
- 11:30It's a good, uh, visual way of reminding yourself, look, time is going by.
- 11:35Mm-hmm.
- 11:36You got a life to lead, make the most of what you got left.
- 11:40Mm.
- 11:41One of the ways you can make the most of what you got left is to consider moving to the place that will make it the easiest for you and the best for you to do the best that you can do with your life.
- 11:54In short, that's the way we put it.
- 11:56I love that.
- 11:58Now, one thing that's coming forward for me, and this is something that I talk about with my clients all the time, is what is it that you want?
- 12:07Okay.
- 12:08You have to know what you want in order for you to reach what you're, what you're dreaming of, so it before you start doing this.
- 12:18And while I think it's better over here, I think it's better over there.
- 12:22You mentioned Andy at the beginning, how.
- 12:25To each his own is really important.
- 12:28Yeah.
- 12:28So what you see others doing doesn't necessarily mean that's good for you.
- 12:32It's good to get the information so you can make the best decision you can in your point in time where you are now, but Right.
- 12:40You need to know what it is you really dream of.
- 12:43What is the ultimate, how am I going to live my life?
- 12:47And this is exactly why we have this podcast because we are talking to women about.
- 12:54Doing for you by you because of you.
- 12:56And when you do that, everything else comes into place.
- 13:01But when you keep doing for others, you keep lowering your cup of optimism and you, you end up burning out or you end up, you know, not being the full human that you get to be.
- 13:15So good thoughts, uh, knowing what you want.
- 13:20Is one of the biggest questions in life.
- 13:24In fact, like philosophically, there are two big questions in our lives.
- 13:28Yes.
- 13:29Number one is, uh, you know, why am I here?
- 13:34Mm-hmm.
- 13:35Why am I here?
- 13:37You know?
- 13:38And the other is, who am I?
- 13:42Who am I?
- 13:43You could spend your whole life asking yourself, who am I?
- 13:47And in between these two ears, there's a whole universe as large as the universe out there that you can explore to answer that question, who am I?
- 13:56And I believe the answer to the question, who am I gives you the answer to.
- 14:02The second question, why am I here?
- 14:04Hmm.
- 14:05If you're asking yourself, why am I here?
- 14:07Ask yourself, who am I?
- 14:08Meaning look at your life and your antecedents, your, your, you know Yeah.
- 14:13Where you came from.
- 14:15Yeah.
- 14:15And in there, there's an answer as to what you're all about and what you should be doing with your life if you spend enough time looking at it.
- 14:24I believe that's true.
- 14:26Uh, so that's a very philosophical way of putting it, but a more practical way.
- 14:30I'm just gonna give you one example Yes.
- 14:32That I think is very helpful.
- 14:34Mm-hmm.
- 14:34There was a guy named Carl nda, who was a famous tight work tight rope walker.
- 14:40Yes.
- 14:40And uh, I think it was in the 1980s, he was walking a tightrope in San Juan, Puerto Rico, between two high, uh, towers, two buildings.
- 14:53And, uh, he slipped and fell to his death.
- 14:57But before he died, he was interviewed by some journalists.
- 15:01Mm-hmm.
- 15:02And they asked him, why on earth do you walk the tightrope?
- 15:07And his answer was very insightful.
- 15:10And his answer was, he said, all my life, I live most on my, on walking the tightrope.
- 15:22And everything before is a prelude to and everything after is a postscript after my life on the tightrope.
- 15:32So what was in his case?
- 15:34That tightrope was so, the experience was so powerful to him that he was willing to risk his life for the sake of getting up there and performing.
- 15:46So you gotta ask, we have to ask ourselves, what's so powerful for us in our lives that we would be willing to even walk a tight rope?
- 15:59Okay, well, maybe not walk a tight rope or risk your life, but what is it that's so powerful in your life that would move your life forward and that you have to, that you'd be willing to risk to get it?
- 16:12Uh, you know, I think that's a great question.
- 16:15Mm-hmm.
- 16:16There's a guy named, uh, uh, Jim Rohn, who's a big famous Oh yes.
- 16:20Speaker in the us.
- 16:22I had the opportunity to actually meet him.
- 16:25Wow.
- 16:26And one of the questions he used to ask is.
- 16:29So what are your goals?
- 16:31And he used to say, after summer, telling their goals, he'd say, he would say, well, that's very exciting.
- 16:38If it was exciting.
- 16:39And if it wasn't, he would say, well, why aren't they exciting?
- 16:42Why aren't they so exciting that I get excited just listening to you talk about your goals?
- 16:51You know?
- 16:51So the idea is your goals have to be exciting.
- 16:56Um, they should be exciting and, and, uh, uh, you know, that's.
- 17:04That's part of live living, the kind of life that, that we should probably live.
- 17:10Um, and once you got the goals down, well then you go after the goals.
- 17:14You have to define what is the goal, and then what price are you prepared to pay.
- 17:18Yeah.
- 17:18Are you prepared to die for your goal?
- 17:21Or at the very least, walk a tight rope for your goal?
- 17:23Or maybe not that, but you know, how much are you willing to pay?
- 17:28Right.
- 17:28And, and then you go after it.
- 17:30Paying, paying the price.
- 17:32Yeah.
- 17:32Yeah.
- 17:33Yeah.
- 17:33And, and when you do it through that lens and that conviction, my belief is you can't go wrong.
- 17:43Yeah.
- 17:44Because you're going after what you are here for, what you are here.
- 17:48What is your reason for being.
- 17:51Yeah, that's, uh, what I call the unique ability.
- 17:54I just came off a program just before this program.
- 17:57I came off a program with a guy named, uh, Dan Sullivan, who's called the Strategic Coach, and he was talking about ambition and he said people, he's 81 years old and he has love it more ambition today than he ever had in his life.
- 18:13And he was saying ambition equals excitement.
- 18:17Yeah.
- 18:18You know, you get excited and it's a sort of a loop.
- 18:21The more excited, the more, yeah.
- 18:24So these are all things, uh, you know.
- 18:29Share inside yourself and figure out what's your unique ability?
- 18:32What, what can you give the world that the world needs?
- 18:36Yeah.
- 18:36That they're crying out there to, to, you know, for mm-hmm.
- 18:39For you to give.
- 18:41And if you're, if, and that could that forgive me for lecturing like that.
- 18:46No, this is good.
- 18:47It's, it's, no, this is great.
- 18:50Um, the, the key thing there is passion.
- 18:53Yeah.
- 18:54Like, you know, the em emotional commitment to the goal.
- 18:57Yeah.
- 18:58Yeah.
- 18:58If, if you don't have the passion, you're, you're driving down the wrong highway.
- 19:02Yeah.
- 19:02You gotta find the highway where your passion is, no matter what it is.
- 19:06Yeah.
- 19:07You know?
- 19:07Yeah.
- 19:07And get on there.
- 19:08So, uh, I'll just share if I may Yeah.
- 19:11In my own life Absolutely.
- 19:14How I sort of applied this.
- 19:15Yes.
- 19:16So, uh, you know, I thought, Hey, I'm a big speaker.
- 19:19I'm gonna be a big, you know, I was a Toastmaster.
- 19:22I gotta plaque up here above my head.
- 19:24Yeah.
- 19:24Uh,'cause I was one of these, uh, you know.
- 19:27Distinguished Toastmaster for being in Toastmaster.
- 19:30Sure.
- 19:30Uh, the Toastmasters organization, that's a, you know, learn how to speak publicly Right.
- 19:37Organization, but that's not what the world wanted from me.
- 19:41Hmm.
- 19:42That, what the world wanted for me.
- 19:44I, I realized over time was for me to write.
- 19:48So I now, when I started writing, I was terrible in the university.
- 19:53I barely made it through English 1 0 1, barely.
- 19:57Yeah.
- 19:57In fact, the professor who taught me what turnover in his grave today, if you know what I'm doing, but I write for Forbes.
- 20:04I've been writing for Forbes for 10 years, and I'm a former UN correspondent.
- 20:08Mm-hmm.
- 20:10It didn't come.
- 20:11Naturally at first, you know?
- 20:13Mm-hmm.
- 20:13Mm-hmm.
- 20:14But over time, I, you know, as I, I wrote little articles for student newspapers and essays and stuff like that, and over time mm-hmm.
- 20:22I got better, better, better.
- 20:23Until now I'm good enough to be published.
- 20:27Um, but I still have this passion for speaking and presenting.
- 20:32Yeah.
- 20:32What we are doing right now.
- 20:34Yes.
- 20:34In my life.
- 20:36Is my passion.
- 20:38Mm-hmm.
- 20:39Sharing ideas with people like this.
- 20:42Yeah, exactly.
- 20:43You know, I, I can't think, in fact, I'll say this, I can't think of a better place in the world.
- 20:49I'd rather be and a better time than right now.
- 20:52Mm-hmm.
- 20:53And with a better person than you and your audience right now.
- 20:58This is the highest thing I can do with my life at this moment.
- 21:03And that's what we have to do.
- 21:05We have to find places like that and do that.
- 21:08Yeah, I, I'm honored.
- 21:11To be having this conversation.
- 21:12I really am because it is 100% real, authentic and exactly what we are about in, in our, in our conversations here.
- 21:24We are here to show people that everybody has their journeys and isn't it interesting that the.
- 21:34Outside pieces, you were the top of the Toastmasters.
- 21:38You were giving and giving, and you thought that was it, and you were recognized for it, but there was still some a, a, a loop that wasn't finished.
- 21:48Correct.
- 21:49And I love that it stayed in the realm of communication.
- 21:54Yeah, it did.
- 21:56Yeah.
- 21:56And, you know, I mean, uh, and it's part of my, you know, looping back to what we were talking about earlier.
- 22:03Sure.
- 22:03I have to ask myself, well, why am I so concerned about communication?
- 22:07And, uh, I'll share a sort of an intimate story.
- 22:10It's kind of almost like sacred.
- 22:13Wow.
- 22:13My mother was deaf.
- 22:15Mm-hmm.
- 22:16She did not hear as a young girl, she lost, lost her hearing to illnesses.
- 22:20Hmm.
- 22:21So, in my life.
- 22:24Uh, I had to learn how to communicate with her.
- 22:27Uh, now she lip read.
- 22:29Yes.
- 22:29She was able to read.
- 22:30When you're talking, she could figure out what you're saying by what, how you're making your lip move.
- 22:36Yeah.
- 22:36So she'd read my lips.
- 22:37She had slight hearing on one 20% on her right ear.
- 22:41So that made up enough for her to understand what I was talking about.
- 22:45Right.
- 22:46But communication was very important to her and through her to me, and I realized, wow, that's one of the reasons why I am so dedicated to communication.
- 22:55Right.
- 22:56Effective communication to this day.
- 22:59Yeah, because I, there is.
- 23:02Communication and then there is effective communication.
- 23:06Yeah, there's a huge difference.
- 23:08Thank you for that.
- 23:10Um, uh, additional piece.
- 23:12And I love what you're saying because to me, I think that's true for all of us.
- 23:18When we look back in our history growing up, that's where our true, authentic selves really show.
- 23:28Who we are.
- 23:29So if we're in the dark about who am I really, those important questions you were sharing earlier.
- 23:36One of the techniques I use with my clients is to go and do your milestone history and tune into what you were like as a young child when nothing was interfering.
- 23:48What did you do?
- 23:49What did you love to do, and why did you love to do it?
- 23:52And start stripping down your bare to your bare bones and really understand more about who you are through that lens.
- 24:01And it's very interesting to do.
- 24:03Yeah.
- 24:05Yeah.
- 24:07Andy, of course.
- 24:07Uh, there's mistakes along the way.
- 24:10Oh.
- 24:11Make mistakes.
- 24:12Right?
- 24:13Absolutely.
- 24:14Uh, we, if we don't have those mistakes, we don't grow.
- 24:18Right?
- 24:18I mean, that's one piece of growth.
- 24:20I don't think it's the only, but I think it's an important piece to understand, oops, nope, that I won't do that again, and here's why.
- 24:27And understanding behind the mistakes and learning through those mistakes.
- 24:31Yeah.
- 24:32Yeah.
- 24:32Yeah.
- 24:34Oh my goodness.
- 24:35Andy, what an incredible conversation.
- 24:39Are there any pieces we haven't, we've talked about so many different things which have all come together to talk about.
- 24:46I think, you know, the underlying piece is knowledge.
- 24:51Starting over can be a challenge, but there are things that you can do to make it easier.
- 24:56Mm-hmm.
- 24:56Um, we talked about, um.
- 24:59Moving places.
- 25:01I'm wondering if there's anything in particular that you can share if there are misconceptions and about us work visas that people need to understand if this is an avenue they're thinking about.
- 25:16Uh, well, uh, briefly.
- 25:18Um, just because you're a Canadian doesn't mean you're entitled to go to the United States.
- 25:22You have to get a visa to enter.
- 25:24Okay.
- 25:25And to work there, you have to have a work visa.
- 25:28To have a work visa, you have to have someone offering a job and not just any job.
- 25:33Okay.
- 25:34But a job that's in short supply in the United States, like a position.
- 25:39So usually that means each, at least a bachelor's degree or higher.
- 25:43Okay.
- 25:43And um, I can say there are like.
- 25:47Briefly, there are five ways to immigrate to the United States.
- 25:50One is marry your way in.
- 25:53Uh, that is say either a wife sponsoring you mm-hmm.
- 25:56Or a family member who's an American mm-hmm.
- 25:58Sponsoring you.
- 26:00Another is study your way in, you know, go to university, for example, take a master's degree or ma bachelor's degree.
- 26:07Mm-hmm.
- 26:07Uh, a third way is to, uh.
- 26:10Invest your way in.
- 26:12If you have a lot of money, say like a million dollars, you could invest in a project and, and you can get a permanent residence in the United States.
- 26:21A fourth way is to, uh, work your way in.
- 26:25Uh, so if you get a, a work visa, for example mm-hmm.
- 26:29If you're a professional, uh, usually there are categories of professionals that will enable you to get a work visa right away.
- 26:38Uh, for example.
- 26:40Doctor, uh, lawyer, architect, engineer, nurse.
- 26:44Okay.
- 26:45Any kind of profession.
- 26:46Mm-hmm.
- 26:47And then there's, uh, asylum you're trying to escape.
- 26:50Mm.
- 26:50Have a well-founded fear of persecution, and you're trying to escape from that country that's gonna persecute you.
- 26:57So you come to the United States?
- 26:59Mm.
- 26:59Those same avenues are open to Canada in the same way.
- 27:04Okay.
- 27:04Okay.
- 27:04So they go all, both ways?
- 27:07Yeah.
- 27:07Okay.
- 27:08Okay.
- 27:10Anything that you would like to share with our audience to help them make some decisions, make some ideas on paper, anything that you'd love to share before we close off this incredible time we've had together?
- 27:26Yeah.
- 27:26I'm going to share seven rules for a successful life.
- 27:30Perfect.
- 27:32Okay.
- 27:32These are my, my rules, but I learned them from others.
- 27:37Number one, they're easy.
- 27:39No, they're hard to do, but easy to state.
- 27:44Ah, and you have to try and, and lead your life this way.
- 27:48Number one.
- 27:49Come on time.
- 27:52Number two, finish what you start.
- 27:55Number three, do what you promise.
- 28:00Number four, be sincere.
- 28:05Number five, actions speak louder than words.
- 28:12Number six, be kind.
- 28:16Number seven, be thankful for what you have.
- 28:22Seven rules for a successful life.
- 28:25I try to lead my life by those rules.
- 28:27Mm-hmm.
- 28:28I don't always succeed, but I do my best.
- 28:31And I think if I did believe my life, lead my life that way, it would be a good life.
- 28:39Amazing.
- 28:41Those are great, great lessons to live by.
- 28:44I totally agree.
- 28:46As I'm listening to you, I could finish them as you started, I'd be like, yep.
- 28:51I think that's, yep.
- 28:51That's what it's, and you know, absolutely.
- 28:55And the success, I know people define success differently, but what you are sharing is your life, not from the outside in, but from the inside out.
- 29:09Yeah.
- 29:09So.
- 29:10Yeah.
- 29:10Andy, thank you so much for sharing, taking time out to be with us today and giving the incredible examples.
- 29:21I love so many.
- 29:22I'm gonna go and find my measuring tool now.
- 29:29I think that's amazing.
- 29:30I am such a visual person.
- 29:32So that was perfect and thank you for describing it for those of, uh, for those listeners who are not on the YouTube channel, but on the podcast.
- 29:40So thank you again for being here with us today, Andy, and sharing so much.
- 29:45For those of you listening, we will have in our show notes how to contact and find Andy so that you can reach out and, um.
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- 30:18Have a wonderful day, everyone, and make sure you thrive after 45.
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