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And talk 133 with Shaw and Daryl.
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What's going on, brother? Hey, what's going on, bro?
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Are you feeling? And that too.
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Welcome everybody to the show, man.
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Again, man, Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Yes, Sir. So man, we got a topic tonight.
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It's probably going to be near and dear to you a little bit,
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you know what I'm saying? Because your wife, why is the
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education system as a whole broken?
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You know, I mean, what's what's you start out?
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What's your opinion? I mean, what's your, you know
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what you know about it from your wife.
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And then I'll go and give you some of the stuff that I got.
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Educational Why it's broken educational system.
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Yeah, Why do you think it's broken?
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Well, you know, I can say a lot of time, you know, funding in,
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in some in certain areas is probably why it's broken.
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Well, more likely it is why it's broken.
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But I would just say for me mainly is parenting.
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Yeah, I don't think some of the parents.
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Are. Yeah, I don't think some of the
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parents are, you know, more in tune into education that they
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should. I mean, you know, because a lot
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of times parents, you know, you know, if you, if your kids are,
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aren't acting right the way they're supposed to in school
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and the teachers or principals or whatever try to combat their
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situation and talk to the parents about it, the parents
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would take the kids. Side.
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And go against the that would go against the teachers and
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administration. They'll believe everything that
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the kid is saying, knowing that the kid can be terrible as all
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get out. Right, right.
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I agree with that. I agree with that.
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So the US system faces numerous challenges, including declining
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enrollment, budget issues, and a focus of standardized testing
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over individual learning needs. Factors like low teacher pay,
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inadequate resources, and safety concerns also contribute to its
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struggles. Right.
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So the decline in enrollment part kind of kind of stuck out
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to me a little bit, right? Because I didn't, I didn't look
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at it this way. Decline.
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Decline enrollment. Yeah.
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OK, OK. I don't look at it this way.
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Lower birth rates and changes in migration patterns are leading
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to a decrease in student populations, which in turn
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impact school budgets as funding often is tied to enrollment.
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So you think about it, back in the day you probably had, I
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don't know, parents had probably 6-7 kids, right, all over the
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school. Now you may have one or two,
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maybe some of them grown and don't even have kids, you know
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what I mean? So that's one of the things that
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that that kind of stuck out to me.
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I didn't, I didn't look at it that way.
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Why? You know how we talk about some
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areas may the funding may impact be impacted in certain areas and
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that may be a reason why because of the decline in enrollment.
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So if you don't have the enrollment, what's the point in
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getting the funding? Right.
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I guess there's too like, you know, in some of those, like you
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said, decline enrollment. I think a lot of a lot of
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parents are putting their kids in like like charter schools and
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different schools and stuff like that.
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So some of the rural areas, like where we came from, like a lot
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of rural areas, those schools are definitely declining, you
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know, in enrollment 'cause they're, they're, you know, a
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lot of the parents that kind of came up with us, you know,
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they're moving to the larger cities.
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So they are enrolling into more urban, you know, more urban
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schools and stuff like that. So, you know, it's, it's, it's
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really taking an impact, putting an impact on where I put it this
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way to rural schools are really taking an impact on that low
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enrollment. You know what I'm saying?
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And and. Then in fact, it it affect the
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budget cuts because you're not getting the same amount of
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resources you're going to get. You got 500 kids versus you have
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1000 kids. Now, I'm sure some educators out
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here that's that's may be listening and you know, may, may
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see this video. I mean, you can chime in and
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just let us know what y'all thoughts, you know, what y'all
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thoughts are. You know what I mean?
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The standardized testing and focus on lack of flexibility.
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A strong emphasis on standardized testing can over
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shadow the importance of individual learning needs and
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development of crucial thinking and problem solving, which is
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which is kind of key because will you will you focus on the
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test just the test only and not with a person not with a child
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is going to really, really need to be successful.
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Like this child may be super smart.
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This other one may not be as smart.
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So you got to focus on them instead, to focus in, you know,
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just strictly on. That test.
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But some can't. But some kids just can't test.
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You know what I'm saying too. You know they freak out.
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You know, they can be smart as y'all get out, you know during
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the course of the year. But when it come to their stand,
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like I said that standardized testing, you know, they you
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know, they you know, they, they crack on the pressure.
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You know what I'm saying is what it is, that anxiety.
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True that man, true and that but but still, I still think that
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they can still kind of kind of lock in on what a child kind of
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needs. For example, you have one strong
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in math, one strong in English. Now, if you're taking a math,
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you can't put that child in algebra.
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If they, you know, they need to be in basic math, they going,
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you setting them up for failure, you know what I mean?
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So it's kind of, I kind of get what you're saying too, but just
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to just to focus with them just on test alone when they get out
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in the real world, that's all they know is that test, you know
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what they learned in the test. So it's kind of kind of the
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problem solving each piece will be missing.
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You know, like us, when we was in school, we did auto
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mechanics, you know, we did brick masonry and, you know,
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stuff like that, which kind of helped, you know, as we grew up,
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you know what I'm saying? Not change tires right now.
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I can go pull probably 10 kids. Oh yeah.
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And none of them probably could change a tire.
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No, definitely can't. They can call they can call
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roads out assistance, but they can't exactly you know, and this
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right here is another one man that that you make it speak to
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this because your wife is in the school system, right?
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Teacher shortages and unsupportive work environment,
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low pay, demanding workloads, lack of resources can make
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teaching a challenge, challenging and unsustainable
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career. Yeah, that's what and that's
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what I was going to go on. Go to, to next that next topic
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that you talking about. So we're on the same page, man.
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Like, yeah, teachers, man, they don't, they don't get the right
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to proper pay. I think all of them should get
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like, you know, a, a nice adequate salary.
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And then like I said, man, with the supplies and stuff like
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that, man, all the teachers, not some of them, all the teachers,
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man, they got to go in, they got to go in their own pockets to
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get supplies most of the time for their kids, for their
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classrooms and stuff like that. So yeah, they're, they're
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teachers, man. They they, they drag the
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teachers. No, the, they the.
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Schools are important, you know what I'm saying?
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Exactly, my bad. But don't the schools are
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supposed to supply the supplies and that probably come back to
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the lack of funding cause the lack of students?
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Yeah. That's what I was going to say.
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Yeah, they do to a certain point.
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I don't really know all the, you know, details on that, but I
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know a lot of times, man, like I say, you know, the teachers that
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I know, my wife included, I mean, like I said, of course I
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got other family members, you know, there's teachers, you
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know, they got to get a lot of stuff for the kids they self,
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man, you know. So from now just just, I'm sure
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you've been to the school and stuff like that, Are the classes
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like overcrowded in her class or just small classes or or what
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is? No, with her, she has about 26
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kids in the kindergarten class and see they used to they got
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three kindergarten classes, right?
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I'm speaking this on my wife. She got three kindergarten
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classes. I mean, it's three kindergarten,
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kindergarten classes as a whole in her class.
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See each, each class used to have three assistants, teacher's
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assistants. So now with the teacher shortage
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is what you was talking about, those three kindergarten classes
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now where they've been working like this all year, they only
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have one assistant that they got to share between the three
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classes. Oh, wow, OK, I, I get what
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you're saying now I get what you're saying.
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So, so then the OK, the next part, next point, and we're
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going to the next point. I'm going to dig back.
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Micromanagement and scripted curricula can stifle teacher
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creativity, innovation just for the people that maybe just
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tuning in. We're talking about why the
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school system is broken micromanagement.
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They basically what they're doing is from what I'm reading
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is this is they giving the teachers what to teach instead
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of letting the teachers be creative and teach what they
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know to teach right, right. What you kind of Jake and
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stifles the teachers creativity. If I come and give you, just
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like for your kids, if you come and give them a blueprint of
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what they supposed to do all the time instead of letting them
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think through it, it kind of stifles their creativity.
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Like, you know, Hey, I know what you think, but no, let's do it
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this way. You know what I mean?
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So that could that would that could be kind of like a one of
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the things too teaching unions. I don't know about the teaching
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unions things. I don't know.
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Do they even have teaching unions down here?
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I think, I think they do. I think they had like a state
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something NCEA or something like that.
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I'm not for sure. I'm not really too familiar with
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that. I think they do, you know, but I
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don't really know how they. Work OK, gotcha.
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Alright, we'll skip that then. Safety concerns and bullying
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raising school Rising school violence include including gun
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violence creates A stressful and unsafe environment for students
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and teachers. That's the big.
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That's a big one. That's a that's a big one if you
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got to be concerned whether you're going to make it home
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every night, yeah. There's, yeah.
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There's yeah. There's wow, Yeah.
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You got to be concerned if you're going to get jumped on
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because you get some out of bad grade or you say something like,
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hey, can you go back and sit down?
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That kind of probably the reason why you have a teacher shortage.
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Yeah, man, a lot of them, a lot of them are quitting, you know,
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because of that, that same thing you just talking about because,
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you know, most teachers, you know, they're adults, of course
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they're going to they're going to defend themselves.
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And if, you know, when a kid try to jump them, especially in the
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higher grades, and if a teacher put their hands on them to
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defend and defending themselves, the teacher's going to get
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fired, right. You know what I'm saying?
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So it's like the teachers, they're handcuffed, you know
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what I mean? So in that in that they're
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handcuffed in that situation. Well, that's one I'm going to
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tell you right now I wouldn't be handcuffed because I'm getting
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fired. I'm just going to, I'm going to
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let you know that that's one that I'm going to, yeah.
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That'd be my last day before I do what I'm going to do.
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I'm going to pack my stuff up in that little box.
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And so when I finish dragging them through the classroom, I
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can grab a little box and going to leave because I'm going to
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get fired. Because, you know, that's just,
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I'm just talking. I'm speaking for me because, you
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know, yeah. Yeah, 'cause I'm gonna leave,
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I'm gonna leave whatever, whatever I got in the classroom
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except what I got on me, my, my, my personal belongings or
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whatever. I'm, I'm, I'm going, I'm leaving
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everything on on the desk. They can have it all.
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You know, the female teachers, you know, they got to get their
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purses and all this stuff like that.
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So hey, y'all don't carry none of that stuff stuff.
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So hey, when you go down like that.
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The next teacher that's coming in, they got some free supplies.
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They ain't got to buy nothing. I was trying to tell you, man.
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Did another thing, man. Bullying is also a significant
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problem with a higher percentage of students reporting
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experiencing it. Hey, look, we going to jump back
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into this bullying part, man, because we right up, right up
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against the break. So we're going to go into the
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break and then come back and get into the bullying part, OK?
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Back, Welcome back, Sir. Yes, Sir.
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Through, through with Shawl and Daryl.
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So before the break, man, we were talking about Willy
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bullying. Yeah, yeah, bullying is one of
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those things, man. That's a that's a a real issue
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now. I know they they, I know it's
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kids on kids a lot, but sometimes it's adults on kids.
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You. Know.
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They bullying the kids and and I think that's one of the things I
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think it's kind of overlooked a little bit.
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We always think about, you know, remember the show Little Rascal?
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Whoever the dude named Butch the one.
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Yeah, we. Always think of Butch was a
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little sleeve road or whatever he had on right by the.
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Shoot. Yeah, so we always think of him
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as the kid bullying, but I mean, we got grown folk to do bullying
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too. Man, that need to be that need
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to be looked at as well. Yeah, and I guess, man, you
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know, you don't know if you're talking about teachers or just
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adults as a whole. It will as a whole, but in
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school, 'cause we talking about schools like teachers too, you
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know, in schools I say I like them.
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Yeah, 'cause you can have some, you can have some teachers that
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bully students. Yeah, if their other student,
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just because the other student might be parent might be a
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teacher and they might not like that other teacher.
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Yeah. So they didn't bullied it, you
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know what I'm saying? Or the the teacher may know
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that, like I said, a parent that may not be in the school because
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they may just know them from the street.
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So now they got a chance to put their thumb on the back of the
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student to get back at that, get back at that parent that they
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don't like. So it can work like that too.
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Yeah, exactly. I agree with that.
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I agree with that. And then another reason why I'm
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in the school, you know, the school educational system is
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broken. Lack of focus on real world,
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real world skills. Traditional schools often then
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prioritize memorization over critical thinking and problem
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solving, leaving students unprepared for the demands of
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the modern workforce. Now back in the day, I just
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mentioned how we how we should do that.
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I don't even know if they have auto mechanics classes still in
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schools now brick masonry. I don't even know if they kind
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of have this stuff, but it kind of puts the kids on the place
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where you kind of handicap them a little bit.
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Yeah, they had small engines and stuff like that too.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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And then they solely focusing on somebody else doing it.
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Like they have no hands on skills, you know, small engine
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repair. They used to have that in
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school. I'm not sure what, you know what
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it is right now. I think they focus more so on
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computers now. I'll, I'll look, kind of look at
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it, try to look at it a different way.
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They they may be trying to prepare them for what we going
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into and maybe train them on computers because that's where
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everything is going to. Right.
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And I think over here, I think we got, I think I have one of
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the high schools over here, maybe all of them.
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I know they they cheat. They teach the guys, if I'm not
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mistaken. I think they teach them how to
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introduce them into firefighting.
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Oh, OK, OK, that's a good thing, man.
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Yeah. And I think, I'm not for sure,
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don't quote me on this. I think they introduced them to
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like power lines like the guys do the power lines and stuff
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like that because it's attached to the Community College.
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So they can count, they can count a dabble in that when
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they're in high school if that's where they want to stay focused
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in. So, you know, they can, I think
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they can do pretty good. You know they learned that.
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Yeah, I agree. I agree.
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I agree. But but you know all the stuff I
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just listed, man, I don't. Know if they do that or not.
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Yeah, you know all the stuff I just listed and you know all the
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stuff that teachers have to go through.
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The average salary in 2023-2024 was $72,030.
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This is a national average, 72, yeah.
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And then depends on where you are.
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The salaries averaged $46,526 and it's, you know, as I guess
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different places, you know, the national average is 72 stars,
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salary 46. And I guess, you know, if you go
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into places like California, right, no different places like
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that, you know, it, it probably would go up 'cause it's a bigger
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state, bigger, you know what I mean?
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It may go up, but that's the national average, 72,000.
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Right. Wake, Wake in Mecklenburg.
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They might be up there. Probably.
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But, you know, like the probably the smaller counties, you know,
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they probably fall somewhere in the middle, you know what I
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mean? Like I said, man, like I said
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before, man, they they they need to make more teachers.
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Yeah. Man, they, they, there's
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something they got to be passed for them to do just a little bit
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more for the teachers, man. So you know, when we talked
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about the education system, education system also includes
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colleges. So the college system is broken
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as well. You know what I'm saying?
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American colleges system faces numerous challenges as well,
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including rising tuition costs, student debt, a disconnect
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between higher education and the job market, and the perception
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that is more more focused on selectivity and ranking than
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student success. These issues contribute to
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declining confidence in higher education and make it less
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accessible and affordable and affordable for many.
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Basically like the rise in tuition costs.
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Yeah, they got to do something about that, man.
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They got to do something about because like you saying with the
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I guess what you were saying the low enrollment, right, it's it's
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declining. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, you know, it ain't saying nothing wrong with that, but
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like this right here. But a lot of people, you know,
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they kind of kind of trending back to the community colleges,
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you know what I'm saying? So but like I say, you know, if
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you want to get you know what, I guess quote, UN quote higher
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learning big universe, they're going to have to yeah, they're
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going to have to cut back that, you know, lower that tuition.
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Man, that's that's ridiculous. But you know what's what's crazy
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is as a disconnect between the higher education and the job
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market. So most.
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Schools. Used to train you for specific
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jobs. So now you go get a they tell
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y'all no you get a degree in political science.
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What job can you get in political science?
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Bridgestone, they'd be right out there with me when I used to be
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out there. Throwing tires and doing all
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that. You see what I'm saying?
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So it's so you're kind of wasting time and money.
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I had some guys out there like that was out there was working
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with me. They did four years in in in
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colleges and stuff like that pledge and everything.
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Yeah, it was out there with me. I'm like I'm looking at them
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like bro, what y'all doing here with me, you know?
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But hey, like you said, the job, the job market or whatever they
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was in, you know, whatever they major thing, it didn't match up.
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Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, like the
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rising cost man has soared, which it makes it unaffordable
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for any families. Most families if you getting
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student loans, you know, that's another thing you got to deal
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with because now the cost is so high, you can't really pay out
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of pocket unless you take your 529 plan and probably Max it out
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or however they do that and just keep doing it.
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I mean, you got in order for the pay basically to pay for your
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kids education. Now I'm just speculating because
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I don't know ain't no economist or nothing like that.
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I'm just saying. But you got to start when they
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probably what, two or three? Yep, Yep, and.
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Then and save all the way till they get to like 18 to pay for
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that. And then now since the since the
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costs are going up, it's going, you're going to have to have
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even more money to save to get in because you got so many
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people in in in student debt, man, you can't really, they
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can't go back into college because now once you Max out
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your student loans, you can't get more money.
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So now you got a bunch of debt and can't get back into college
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because what a lot of people have done was they did they once
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the student loan once they got out of college.
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And he, he knows student loans come due.
27:53
As long as you're in school, you don't have to pay student loans.
27:55
So then you go back into school again to stop the Student Loans
28:01
with more money to the student to the debt.
28:04
That's crazy. That's crazy how they do that.
28:07
So it's. Kind of like a trap, as long as
28:09
you're in school and, and you're and you paying this money right,
28:14
or you getting these student loans, you don't got to pay
28:16
that. It's deferred or whatever till
28:18
you get finished. Like I said, they got to wait
28:21
for you to finish line. Yeah.
28:23
Now, so you now you got people that got like 18°, you can't do
28:27
nothing with neither one of them, you know what I mean?
28:29
So you got like a plaque behind your wall or just degrees, which
28:34
you got, you can't use a 1° at the time.
28:37
So, but it's, it's kind of like a trap, you know, like the
28:41
student debt, the accumulation of student loan debt can be
28:44
significant, a significant burden for graduates, impacting
28:48
their financial stability and career choices.
28:52
If you've got this debt coming out of school and it's due to
28:57
say, for example, you graduate June and your first payment is
29:02
due in June in in December or January, man you you now you
29:07
working six months just to get ready to start prepared to pay
29:11
student loans. Yeah.
29:12
And I guess the way you explain that last, that last topic, hey,
29:16
that's probably why those people got all those degrees then they
29:19
just. Keep going back, keep going
29:21
back. I didn't know.
29:22
I ain't know it worked like that, you know what I'm saying?
29:25
Yeah, you did a little. Research on it so you know.
29:27
Yeah, then you got to. Then you got to where say for
29:30
example, if you Max at the at the at the undergraduate level,
29:35
then you got the graduate level, would you make it get more
29:38
money? You get what I'm saying?
29:40
So they just keep and then for you know what, but you got
29:43
$200,000 in student debt that you got to, you know that you
29:47
got to, you got to face that, that tsunami when you get
29:51
finished with school. So hey, we right up against the
29:54
break. We're going to jump back into
29:56
this right after the break, y'all.
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33:17
Back, welcome back was a welcome quack.
33:20
Welcome, Quack, Hey, welcome back y'all.
33:26
So we went to the break. Yo, we was talking about the
33:29
Student Loans. Now we talk about the the lack
33:32
of affordability. So you know school free, but
33:36
college you got to pay for. I'm sure people know that right.
33:40
So the high cost and burdensome, burdensome loan repayment plans
33:46
prevent students from, you know, completing their degree.
33:49
Like it's so it's so much dog that all right, give you a just
33:57
a just a some people go to when they go to Duke.
34:03
Duke is 80,000 a semester. That's why I was going to say
34:06
they up there like. 80,000 a semester.
34:12
So think about that's more than what what teachers make a year,
34:16
you know what I'm saying? Or average person.
34:19
Exactly, exactly. So now.
34:21
Now you see why the student loan, the the Perkins and all
34:28
these, the staffing and all these loan people, while they
34:31
don't mind giving you the money because if you don't pay it,
34:35
they start, they can start garnishing it.
34:39
So you got it. One way or another you going to
34:41
have to pay it. You know what I'm saying?
34:43
You can get deferments or forbearance, all this kind of
34:45
stuff, but eventually they going to come due and you going to
34:49
have to pay that. Every penny you got, you going
34:51
to have to pay it. There's high, there's high end
34:54
crime right there. It's almost like it's almost
34:57
like probation and parole. Oh no, they definitely got the
35:00
ski masks and the gloves out there, that's for sure.
35:02
Every time you go in, you got the ski masks and the gloves out
35:07
waiting on you so they can go in and get that, that's for sure.
35:11
That's for sure. Then some other stuff man that
35:13
that reason why colleges are failing because we talk about
35:17
the schools now we're in the colleges outdated curriculum.
35:22
Some some feel that college curricula does not adequately
35:25
prepare graduates for demands of the modern workforce, which is
35:29
true because everything is going to like robots and AI and and
35:34
all this stuff. If you still using one of them
35:36
old, one of them old was it HPS you're in trouble because
35:44
everything is so far far advanced.
35:47
Danny, if you if you don't do like my son did and build your
35:50
own PC or you can put this the the graphics card, the speed,
35:55
whatever you want in it and you go get one in one from if they I
35:59
don't know if they do, they still sell them things at
36:01
Jordan. You don't want to.
36:03
Build his own. Yeah, Jordan build his own the.
36:05
Boy, got some skills, don't. Just a little bit, you know what
36:08
I'm saying? Just a little bit, yeah.
36:11
So. So I won't go.
36:13
Let, I won't let you. I won't let that slide back.
36:15
We had to put that out there. We might hit a haul at him.
36:18
Yeah, to get you one built man, he's very intelligent, no lie
36:21
about that. So he built his own own PC
36:25
right, with with the two monitors.
36:27
So if you go and you go get one of the old school ones from Dell
36:32
or wherever those places are, if you go get one like that, it may
36:36
not be compatible to like what we're doing right now.
36:40
The speed may not be fast enough.
36:44
You may not have enough Ram and you know, I'm sure Joe somewhere
36:47
listening he probably like we're leaving something out, but I
36:50
know you know what we talking about, right?
36:53
And just like I'm saying. And all that.
36:55
Right. It's like you saying too bad at
36:56
high tech, you know, like everything going automated AI,
36:59
whatever. That's like even that's even
37:02
like in the manufacturing, you know, the manufacturing field,
37:05
you know, like we had like before I left, we had robots
37:10
inside of the place I work the plan.
37:12
I want to talk about like the big, real big robots.
37:15
And you know, you had guys that worked on them, you know, like
37:19
worked on them, stuff like that. You know, they were, you know,
37:21
they went to the, you know, engineering or mechanic school
37:26
and all this stuff like that. So, you know, like you said,
37:29
it's required now, man. So eventually it's going to keep
37:33
going the way it's going, like you said, the people that
37:35
there's some people that's going to get left behind, you know?
37:38
Right, which was that's the next, that's the next point.
37:41
You know, there's a disconnect between education and industry
37:44
needs. So the education, the the
37:48
industry needs this to take us here, but the education is still
37:52
over here teaching this. So now when you got that gap,
37:56
when they come out of school, they got a degree that they
37:59
really can't use because they don't have like a, a, a
38:03
specialized. Now you got to go back to school
38:06
and specialize in this and then go back and once you get that
38:09
done, specialize in that, which is more money.
38:13
Well, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be?
38:16
Unless that's by design. Wouldn't it be feasible, if you
38:22
want to use that word for recruiters to put the people in
38:27
the right direction? You're talking about job
38:30
recruiters? Yeah, like like the like Google,
38:32
like, yeah, college and stuff like that.
38:34
Because if you know, with unless it may be just depending on the
38:37
individual, because you know what I'm saying.
38:39
If I, if I'm working in the industry and I know where the
38:43
industry is taking me and I see some people that's coming to
38:46
college that's enthused, they want to learn a lot of stuff
38:49
like like a sponge and all that, I will try to send them in that
38:53
direction. I see them going this way, but I
38:56
will try to send them in the direction where the market is
38:58
going. Then wouldn't that, would they
39:00
fall on it for recruiters to try to help them, 'cause sometimes
39:03
some some kids is going in college, going to college, they
39:06
may not like we went to the military.
39:09
You might not have nobody to to put you in the right direction.
39:13
Right. I agree what you're saying, but
39:14
that still goes back to the outdated curriculum that that
39:18
they may have like say like for example, like some countries,
39:22
you know, like you may have China in you.
39:24
What are those countries like that they may put a little bit
39:27
more in the education system, you know, to get on the cutting
39:31
edge and the US may not, you know, because they may not even
39:37
I ain't said they're going to feel that they deem as
39:38
important, but they just don't really not may not just focus on
39:42
that part of it. You know what I'm saying?
39:44
But I get your point. They should have recruiters in
39:47
place. Like back in school, they had
39:49
got us cancels that came and talked to me and told me like,
39:52
hey, I had six months left. If you don't turn this around,
39:55
you going to be in the 12th grade again, right?
39:58
So that's right. I see exactly or like I said,
40:03
you know, like the the the way the market is going, you know
40:06
what I'm saying? Like just like you know, like
40:10
OK, I didn't have no guidance. So when I went in, I went in
40:14
straight infantry. Yeah.
40:16
But y'all wanted to come in behind me.
40:19
Yeah. So by me already taking the
40:22
taking the, you know, taking the first shot, yeah taking the
40:25
first lump on the head, you know I was able to like yo, y'all
40:28
don't want to go the way I went, y'all need to go this way.
40:31
You know what? I'm saying seemed like, you
40:33
know, we ought to be some people in place that's in colleges that
40:37
would do that too. But I understand what you're
40:38
saying about the outdated, you know, the outdated systems or
40:42
whatever curriculum or whatever. And boy, did that pay off too,
40:45
because I I ain't going nowhere near infantry.
40:48
I would the information management that definitely was
40:50
in the office so you. Look at it and say, hey, you
40:54
know, I, I, you know, I let y'all boys stand on my shoulders
40:56
for a little while, you know what I'm saying?
40:58
Just a little bit. Appreciate it.
41:01
You know, other issues, admission process.
41:05
Admission processes can be complex and stressful for
41:09
students. I guess because you have so many
41:13
people, so many, you have so many students with so little
41:19
workers in place to kind of help, kind of help them get it
41:24
like you, as you say, get in the right field.
41:27
Like they may, they may have a passion for computers, but then
41:30
they can go put them in political science or they may go
41:34
put them in something else that they may not, it may not work
41:38
for them. You know, they may want to fix
41:39
their own computers. Right.
41:41
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's kind of like what I was saying.
41:42
Like, you know, they may come in, you know, come in with the
41:46
idea they they may have an interest in computers, but like
41:48
I said, they may go in, like you said, political science or
41:51
whatever, you know, or something like that.
41:53
You know, if they got an interest in that, they enthuse
41:57
that you kind of guide them that way because that's where the
41:59
market is going. Exactly.
42:00
That's. What it's trending?
42:01
Saying, yeah, that's what it's trending, Yeah.
42:04
I agree. Administrative overhead.
42:07
Colleges are increasingly burdened by administrative
42:10
overhead and paperwork. So many people trying to get
42:13
into college, so many people to help process them into college,
42:18
which is that's, that's kind of been the thing for the longest
42:21
time. You know, you got so many people
42:24
trying to get into the UNC or NC State and Duke and all these top
42:28
schools. They don't have the people, the
42:30
infrastructure in place to kind of facilitate all of that, you
42:34
know what I'm saying? And lack of transparency,
42:37
students and the public often lack transparency about colleges
42:42
spend their spend their money and what their graduation rates
42:47
are. So they basically they fluff the
42:48
numbers that they try to make it look like they like they
42:52
retention rate is hey, we got a retention rate of, I don't know,
42:56
80% when actually they got maybe 30%, you know what I'm saying?
43:01
So you get in there, you find out the hard way you like.
43:05
You. Kind of like yo I thought y'all
43:07
told me y'all had 80% bro I see folk quitting every day so
43:11
what's right? Something ain't right bro.
43:17
Y'all is lying to me you know what I'm saying?
43:19
Well then logic because you in now at least for semester that
43:22
you quit you know what I'm saying?
43:27
Community College transfer issues Transfer process from the
43:31
Community College universes can be complex and insufficient.
43:35
Now let me say this, I never transferred from Community
43:41
College to to university, but I transferred from a university to
43:47
another university and it was actually pretty easy.
43:51
OK. I don't, I don't know if anybody
43:53
have done that day. What's?
43:55
That from from from Maine from a Maine for big college to.
43:59
Not from a little 1 to a big one.
44:01
No, I'm talking OK. Community College to like a big
44:05
university? University, you said you don't
44:06
know if anybody ever did that. When I know some people have I
44:10
said I haven't, I, I transferred from A1 university to another
44:14
university. Yeah.
44:15
So I, I don't know that process and it could be complex.
44:19
I mean, because you, you're talking about two different
44:22
entities. You talk about maybe like a say,
44:24
like a say like a wake tech. You know, you're trying to
44:29
communicate with wake tech, Wake tech and let's say Duke trying
44:33
to communicate. Kind of like, yeah, kind of like
44:36
a junior college or something. Yeah, yeah, basically.
44:39
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so you kind of trying to put
44:43
them two together. It's probably kind of like a
44:46
maybe a come can make it could be complex because of the you
44:49
know, the the amount of people that may be trying to get out of
44:53
the big colleges into the new college.
44:56
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46:21
Welcome back, welcome back, y'all.
46:23
This is, this is it. It's almost over.
46:27
Yep, it's almost almost over. That quick, I mean, it goes by
46:31
so fast. So, yeah.
46:33
So, you know, we always, this is what we do.
46:36
We always talk the problem and we got to get the solution.
46:41
How do we fix the broken education system?
46:45
We're going to go with schools first, right?
46:47
Fixing a broken education system is involves a multi faceted
46:52
approach, focusing on improving teacher support, which wouldn't
46:57
for me would be pay and stuff like that.
47:00
Protection, addressing funds issue, getting more money and
47:05
maybe having like a, a, a set amount that that it doesn't go
47:11
under. So they can still, you know,
47:13
still grow and enhance the learning environments to try to
47:17
deal with this bullying issue and all this stuff like that.
47:20
That go to the next thing and say.
47:21
This includes in teacher pay and providing there were more
47:27
anatomy in curriculum and classroom management along with
47:31
investing in more equitable school funding.
47:36
Increased. That's the first one on the list
47:38
bro. Increased pay.
47:40
You were talking about this earlier.
47:41
Increased pay and benefits. Attracting and retaining
47:45
qualified teachers requires competitive salaries and
47:49
benefits. You got to have it.
47:52
That's what I'm saying, man. Not just because my wife is a
47:54
teaching man and my family members, a lot of my family
47:56
members teachers, but man, the teachers, man, they get drugs,
48:00
man, you got to say you got to have benefits and pay.
48:06
And then like I said, then and then when they, when they get to
48:08
the end of their career, they trying to retire, some of them
48:12
can't retire, right? You know, like the way they want
48:14
to, you know, Then some of them when they retire, they may have
48:17
to get a part time job somewhere.
48:19
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Go back to work.
48:22
Yeah, they got to fix that, man. Yeah, they got to handle that,
48:25
man. Reduce bureaucracy.
48:27
Streamlining administrative tasks and reducing paperwork
48:30
allows teachers to focus on teaching and student needs.
48:35
Get more assistance in classes. And you told you just said it
48:39
was like 3 kindergarten class. They got one assistant, so then
48:43
she got to run around to three. It used to be 3, one per class,
48:47
right? And that's one that one
48:49
assistant got to go to 123 classes back and forth all day.
48:54
Now you think about that, what back in the day, you always had
48:56
a teacher and a teacher's aide always, you know it, that that
49:01
was just a given. You would sometime rather have
49:04
the teacher's aide than the student.
49:06
I mean than the than the actual teacher because you can cut up a
49:08
little more. Yeah, they give you a little bit
49:10
more freedom, you get a. Little bit more freedom, get a
49:12
little extra recess outside, you know what I'm saying?
49:15
Just a little bit. Professional development,
49:19
providing opportunities for teachers to enhance their skills
49:22
and knowledge through mentorship, collaboration and
49:25
advanced learning can improve teaching practices.
49:29
I mean, I'm pretty sure they went to school, so they kind of,
49:33
I ain't saying that they they'd have made it, but I'm just
49:35
saying just let them be them in the classroom and and they can
49:40
that you probably would see a, a, a tremendous growth in, you
49:46
know, their class if you let them be more creative, more, you
49:50
know them, you know what I'm saying?
49:52
Yeah. You did?
49:53
Yeah, they got to. They got to teach them, man, You
49:56
know, because like I said, some curriculums don't, don't allow
50:00
the teachers to teach like you were saying, they don't allow
50:04
them to teach something, certain things.
50:06
So you got to kind of the teachers got to kind of teach
50:09
them. You know what it is?
50:11
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.
50:12
So investing in resources and ensure that schools have access
50:17
to adequate resources, including technology, materials and staff
50:22
support is crucial for effective teaching and learning.
50:26
You cannot give them you ever seen them old, them old
50:30
computers, them laptops look like them blocks.
50:33
You can't give the kids a blocks with and you can't give them
50:39
dial up where you know you make that little sound.
50:42
You can't do that. You got to give them the stuff
50:45
that everybody else is using so they can be up to date on what
50:51
they need to. When they do go to the next
50:54
level, they got somewhat of an understanding of, you know, what
50:58
the next level is. Yeah, and I guess that's what I
51:01
was saying, you know earlier too, you know, with the like
51:06
some schools they may be behind because you know, they might
51:09
have dialogue, but they looking at the school across town,
51:13
across town, they may be getting the new computers and you know,
51:16
they up to date new school bills and stuff like that.
51:19
So you know what I'm saying? So it's one of those situations,
51:23
you know what I'm saying? So.
51:24
Yeah, true. Yeah, man, because you remember
51:28
going to school back in the day where you had you go to the when
51:37
you go to the gyms, our gym raggedy right?
51:41
They gym fire. You know what I'm saying?
51:44
I don't know. You know what?
51:47
Hold on some habit. Yeah, let me fix that, y'all.
51:50
Hey, I just wanted to come on here and tell you that you got
51:53
some Tik Tokers following you and they're they're trying to
51:58
get everything lined up. Their reply is that's when
52:02
school was done, right? Get the government out of
52:06
schools. And just just a few comments
52:10
about that, that's all. OK, Thank you, Joel.
52:13
Yeah. Yeah.
52:16
So. So what happened?
52:18
You know what happened? I was like, you like.
52:21
Bye. I was like.
52:23
Oh no, I saw. I saw my stuff in the bottom
52:25
corner there and I said I'm still here.
52:27
So I. Waited out and see what
52:28
happened. With the Okie Doke, you know,
52:32
appreciate you Joel, but they right though they right get the
52:36
government out of schools and you know, for real though,
52:41
smaller classes, you know what I mean?
52:46
Lowering student and teacher ratio allows for more
52:48
individualized attention and support.
52:51
Which is true. You know what I'm saying?
52:53
You got to because you can have that your your wife is what, 1
52:58
to 26 or something? Yeah, about 26.
53:02
That's a lot. Yeah.
53:04
That's a lot. That's a whole lot.
53:05
And then you talking about you got a, you got a.
53:11
I'm still here. I'm still here.
53:13
You all the other picture up. I'm still here.
53:15
But you still, you know, you got to, she got to do lesson plans
53:18
for all of them. Oh, yeah.
53:20
What I'm saying she's. Working on some.
53:22
She's working on some this weekend.
53:24
My point for a lot you know what I'm saying?
53:29
Discipline and safety. Implementing clear and concise
53:33
discipline policies and creating a safe, inclusive learning
53:38
environment and a for a central student success.
53:42
We was talking about that, you know, getting rid of bullying,
53:47
getting rid of all that stuff like that.
53:49
And you know, that'll help them. I mean, you want to go to school
53:53
if it's safe, right? If you got to go in there and
53:56
worry about a a bullet in. Your mind or a?
53:58
Knife or somebody going to try to attack you.
54:01
You don't want to, especially for what I what they tell you.
54:04
Starting at 46, the national average is 72.
54:08
Yeah, Yep. Think about 7246 is the average.
54:13
Think about that you. Know what I'm saying?
54:15
I guess you did. I guess that 46 is on is on the
54:18
low end. Yeah, yeah.
54:19
Problem when you just graduate going in, you know what I'm
54:22
saying? You got to, you got to work your
54:24
way up, get so many years in and then, you know, you can move up
54:28
to the 50 and then you move up to whatever, you know, whatever
54:31
they structure is. You know what I'm saying?
54:36
Stronger partnerships, man. Parent and community
54:40
involvement. That's strong, man.
54:42
Yeah. Strong partnerships between
54:46
schools, parents and community can create supportive network
54:51
for students. Go ahead.
54:53
No, I'm saying that's, that's all they take that that'll sum
54:55
up this whole thing. Yeah, they got the parents, got
54:58
the partnership. You know, they got to start
55:01
putting that, you know, I'm going to say put that wood back
55:04
to them kids like they're supposed to, you know what I'm
55:07
saying? Like, you know how we got it
55:08
when we went to school, we had teachers.
55:11
The teachers lived in the neighborhood and the principals
55:13
definitely got it. So we saw them, we saw the
55:16
principals and the teachers. We saw them at school and in the
55:19
grocery. Store bro, we definitely got it
55:22
because you know, I would I would prefer to go ahead and let
55:26
him get me at school, then tell my mom.
55:29
Yeah, we did that plenty of days.
55:31
Like, yeah, go ahead on and do it.
55:33
Hey, look here, you stay in the office, you know, don't tell
55:35
your mom 'cause mom won't tell your dad.
55:36
So I'm getting three. I'm getting one from you and two
55:40
at the house. Yeah, yeah.
55:41
But but though think about that though it worked.
55:46
Yeah, it did it. Did you think?
55:49
About it, it definitely worked, you know, because you you
55:52
thought about it. If he got you, mom going to get
55:56
you, then dad going to get you and somebody else might get you.
56:01
As soon as you get off work. Now as soon you could be in the
56:04
bed sleep, he's snatching them covers off.
56:06
He works 2nd shift. You getting it?
56:09
He already told you, you getting it, so you can look for that,
56:12
you know what I'm saying? So.
56:13
But now, but now we got the parents with my kid.
56:16
My kid ain't done nothing, nobody.
56:18
So we got that arrow now, you know what I'm saying?
56:21
We start back, the parents start back putting the fear in them
56:23
kids and and then they working with the teachers because the
56:27
teacher, like I said, like at my last baby girl, she in school,
56:31
she already know that we can't get no phone call.
56:34
Is she acting up at at school? She already know she can't get
56:38
no call like that. I well, I can't get no call like
56:40
that. Let me put it that way.
56:42
Yeah. She already know it.
56:44
Yeah, she already know. The groundwork has been laid.
56:48
Did you get one? I get one of them.
56:50
You already know. Yeah, So got to have it.
56:52
Yeah. So that's what the parents got
56:54
to get back to it. But I, you know, I don't see it
56:56
happening in the foreseeable future.
56:59
You know what needs to happen though.
57:01
Yeah, because they going to take up for the kids.
57:02
Like I know y'all did something to them.
57:05
I know y'all did something to my child.
57:07
And they know that. They know their child bad at the
57:09
house. Like a little Damien dot.
57:12
Yeah, they know. Their child bad at the house
57:14
man, come on now. For real man, encouraging
57:18
parental involvement as what we talked about in in the
57:22
children's education, including attending PTA school events and
57:27
providing homework support and can positively impact student
57:32
outcomes. Stop giving your child a
57:34
homework and just let them sit at the table and let them figure
57:37
it out. You said PTA Yeah, you said PTA
57:41
is a school of events now now they going to come they going to
57:44
come to the PTA to meet the teacher about them grades.
57:47
But when they had the field day they going to be out there hey
57:51
and they going to be mad if their child don't get no T-shirt
57:54
for field day they going to be out.
57:56
So you basically what I'm saying is they ain't going to really
57:59
come out there for the educational part when the
58:01
teachers need to address the kids and the parents about the
58:04
what the kid, how the kids doing in school, but they going to
58:07
show up for the party. Right, right.
58:09
Whether it's a birthday party or field day or a bunch of food
58:14
trucks out there, you know they going to show up for that. 100
58:18
percent, 100%. So we're getting close to the
58:20
end. Let me run through fixing the
58:22
college system problem problem real quick.
58:26
To fix college the college system, we need to address
58:28
multiple issues, including the high cost of tuition, debt
58:32
burden on graduates, and a disconnect between higher
58:35
education and the job market. Focusing on available
58:38
affordability, exploring alternative pathways to higher
58:43
education and ensuring that education aligns with career
58:47
goals to help create a more accessible and effective,
58:51
accessible and effective system. Basically, like, you know, don't
58:55
send them to school just to get a degree, just to get one.
58:58
Make sure it's going to be something that's going to
59:00
benefit them when they when they come out of school.
59:03
You know, you got to be able to with this, with this student
59:09
debt, you got to, I would say have a lower cut off, you know
59:13
what I'm saying? Instead of letting them go to
59:15
300,400 thousand whatever, just whatever the Max is just, you
59:21
know, whatever. I so just the last one before we
59:24
get out of here to develop strong partnerships with
59:27
businesses, encourage colleges to collaborate with local
59:31
businesses to create in internships, apprenticeships and
59:35
job placement opportunities. If we can do some of these
59:40
things, man, we can fix the college, broken colleges, and
59:44
broken education system as a whole.
59:49
So and agree with everything you said bro.
59:52
Yeah, thank you all for tuning in to Man Talk 133 with Shaul
59:58
and Daryl. And to next time, God bless.
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