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Sarah's Day's Secret Perfume Revenge · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Jaz Han
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Speaker 1: confirms obvious breakup, Tully Smythe opens up about how couples
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Speaker 1: counselling helped her relationship, the mystery surrounding Sarah's Day's latest
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Speaker 1: business venture and Tammy Hembrough's hair extensions. But first, we
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Speaker 1: want to give a big shout out to Amber from
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Speaker 1: Influencer Updates for Getting us the goods. So we put
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Speaker 1: a bit of a desperate call out for anyone who
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Speaker 1: had Sofodofa's Tropicca matches because in little old Adelaide, we
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Speaker 1: have no 7-Elevens and we can't purchase them because that's
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Speaker 1: the only place they're sold at. She has sent us
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Speaker 1: a box of them to try. Like what an absolute legend.
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Speaker 1: She is an absolute sweetheart. We were like, can we
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Speaker 1: please pay for it? Can we please cover the cost
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Speaker 1: of the postage? And she was like, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: So Big thank you to Amber. It is so generous
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Speaker 1: of you. And I'm so excited to try them because
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Speaker 1: Amy is the one that is obsessed with matcha. She's
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Speaker 1: actually not on the show today because she's getting her
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Speaker 1: iron infusion. We're hoping that makes her feel a lot better.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like I've.
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Speaker 2: Become a bit of a connoisseur over the last couple
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Speaker 2: of months. So I'm very excited to try them. I
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Speaker 2: think we need to do them justice though and have
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Speaker 2: them chilled and over a lot of ice.
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Speaker 1: Imagine if Plot Twist, we really liked them because I
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Speaker 1: know Amber was a bit of a fan. So I
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Speaker 1: think that she wanted to hear our honest opinion because
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Speaker 1: For those who haven't listened to the episode, I think
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Speaker 1: it was last week's Friday episode, they've had a pretty
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Speaker 1: bad reception on TikTok. There's a lot of people saying
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Speaker 1: that they taste like Play-Doh and that they smell like fish.
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Speaker 1: So we will film a little taste test. We'll put
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Speaker 1: it on TikTok and Instagram for you.
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Speaker 2: Maybe because we've got such low expectations, they're going to
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Speaker 2: taste all right.
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Speaker 1: Wake up, millennial girlies.
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Speaker 3: One of our millennial queens, Lauren Conrad, has posted to
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Speaker 3: social media.
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Speaker 1: This week, Lauren Conrad made a lot of us feel
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Speaker 1: old by celebrating her 40th birthday party. The Laguna Beach
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Speaker 1: star celebrated with an aptly chosen theme, Kate.
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Speaker 2: I love that Elsie knew that this news was going
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Speaker 2: to shake a lot of millennials because she added as
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Speaker 2: a bit of a disclaimer the comment about, sorry if
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Speaker 2: this made anyone feel old. I certainly felt old when
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Speaker 2: I saw the post. I'm a couple of years younger
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Speaker 2: than Lauren. But I was like, how the hell is
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Speaker 2: she 40? Like Laguna Beach and the Hills, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: seem like that long ago. It seems still relevant to
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Speaker 2: this culture now.
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Speaker 1: Laguna beach came out when we were also in year
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Speaker 1: 12 because it was shot like, you know, a year
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Speaker 1: in advance or whatever. So I feel like our lives
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Speaker 1: have been pretty parallel. I want to point out the
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Speaker 1: 40 isn't old for anybody who's in their forties listening,
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Speaker 1: because I, that's one thing that I, as I've gotten
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Speaker 1: older that I can't stand is ageism. 40 is not
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Speaker 1: old by any means, but I think when you're reflecting
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Speaker 1: on the fact that we literally saw this girl graduate
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Speaker 1: year 12 and suddenly it's like the blink of an
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Speaker 1: eye and she's 40, you're like, what the hell is
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Speaker 1: going on?
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Speaker 2: It reminded me of when we were in our late
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Speaker 2: 20s and everyone started turning 30 and there were all
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Speaker 2: these 30s coming up and you're like, oh, okay, is
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Speaker 2: this happening again? Like, it's just crazy the way time
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Speaker 2: flies by. I actually went to three 40s last year,
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Speaker 2: so it's definitely happening.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to our 40th. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm not looking forward to being 40, but It's kind
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Speaker 1: of an excuse to celebrate for our 30th. It's actually
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Speaker 1: when we started the podcast. I remember doing a couple
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Speaker 1: of episodes about how scared I was to turn 30
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Speaker 1: and we went to Bali for our birthday instead of
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Speaker 1: having a big party. I think that's the way to go.
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Speaker 1: I think you want to go on an epic holiday away,
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Speaker 1: sort of try and escape it a little bit, but then,
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Speaker 1: you know, enjoy yourself.
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Speaker 2: See, I was like tossing up whether we wanted to
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Speaker 2: have a party, but then I was like, hang on,
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Speaker 2: we've just had weddings, hens parties, all of that recently.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, It's a lot of stress and a
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Speaker 2: lot of hassle. I think, yeah, I agree. An overseas
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Speaker 2: trip or an interstate one works well.
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Speaker 1: Now we need to talk about the theme of Lauren's
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Speaker 1: 40th because it was pretty iconic. So her 40th was
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Speaker 1: prom themed. It was a bit of a nod to
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Speaker 1: her high school days, which of course we all had
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Speaker 1: a front row seat too.
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Speaker 2: It's funny when you think that her actual prom was
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Speaker 2: broadcast on global television. I mean, I've personally watched that
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Speaker 2: episode numerous times.
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Speaker 1: I thought for a second it might have been a
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Speaker 1: black and white affair because that's also another school sort
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Speaker 1: of dance that they had. I'm disappointed they.
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Speaker 2: Didn't do that. No, that wasn't a school dance.
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Speaker 1: That was the party that they held at the hotel.
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Speaker 1: That's right. That was their own theme. That was pretty iconic.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone turned up in black except Kristen Cavallari
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Speaker 2: who turned up in white. Before I saw the photos,
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Speaker 2: I assumed that Lauren's party would have early noughties vibes
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Speaker 2: seeing as she had the blueprint for her prom from
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Speaker 2: 2004 and but it was actually more 90s vibes. So
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Speaker 2: she called it a senior, senior prom. And she shared
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Speaker 2: the photo of a guest book that had the tagline,
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Speaker 2: party like it's 1999, recover like it's 2026.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at these photos and she literally doesn't look
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Speaker 1: like she's aged a day. Like she looks exactly the
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Speaker 1: same as when she was on the hills.
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Speaker 2: Oh, she looks incredible. I didn't realize that her husband's
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Speaker 2: a guitarist. So he performed on stage. It was actually
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Speaker 2: a joint party with Lauren and her husband and a
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Speaker 2: couple of their friends.
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Speaker 1: You've got to love that Kristen Cavallari has commented under
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Speaker 1: the post, yes, with a wink, as in it made
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Speaker 1: her feel old. They've clearly gotten over the fact that
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Speaker 1: they both wanted the same boy in high school and
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Speaker 1: must be now friends.
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Speaker 2: Well, Lauren appeared on Kristen Cavallari and Stephen Coletti's podcast
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Speaker 2: that they did where they watched the series of Laguna
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Speaker 2: Beach and kind of reflected on it. And, you know,
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Speaker 2: it was clear that she was completely over the beef.
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Speaker 2: It was really dramatized for the TV show. In terms
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Speaker 2: of the party, it's actually unclear whether any of Lauren's
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Speaker 2: high school friends were actually there in attendance. Morgan Smith
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Speaker 2: wrote under the photo dump, prom queen, happy birthday beauty,
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Speaker 2: can't believe this year is here. And Talon also added
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Speaker 2: happy birthday LC, but there were no photos of them
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Speaker 2: actually at the party.
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Speaker 1: It's quite ironic because Lauren doesn't post that often on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: And the post before her 40th was actually her prom
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Speaker 1: photos that she had reshared. So maybe that was a
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Speaker 1: bit of inspiration. She shared that back in September. I
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Speaker 1: think it was when they were doing a reunion special
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Speaker 1: for the cast of Laguna Beach.
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Speaker 2: Does it surprise you that Lauren Conrad wore a short
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Speaker 2: dress to her original prom in 2004? So she actually
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Speaker 2: wore this sort of red short dress. It kind of
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Speaker 2: looks like the red dress in that emoji except short.
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Speaker 1: It actually doesn't surprise me because remember in the early
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Speaker 1: 2000s there was that formal show in Australia and they
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Speaker 1: would basically gift girls families like a thousand bucks and
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Speaker 1: the girls would go out and pick their formal dresses
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Speaker 1: and they'd always pick those really short dresses that were
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Speaker 1: like absolutely hideous now that you look back on. But
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Speaker 1: they were all sort of short numbers.
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Speaker 2: I remember a lot of people wearing mullet dresses at
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Speaker 2: our formal.
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Speaker 1: I think mine was a mullet dress for both the
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Speaker 1: semi-formal and the actual formal.
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Speaker 2: What, the green one?
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Speaker 1: Remember the black dress? I reckon it was a bit
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Speaker 1: of a mullet, like not as obvious as some of
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Speaker 1: the others, but it had a bit of a sort
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Speaker 1: of layering thing going on.
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Speaker 2: See, the dress I ended up picking out for my
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Speaker 2: formal was I remember that Kate DeRouge from Australian Idol
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Speaker 2: wore it on like the red carpet or something.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to post my formal photos anywhere.
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Speaker 1: I don't want those to see the light of day.
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Speaker 1: But maybe in our Facebook group, if other people are
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Speaker 1: more game, put what you wore to your school formal
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Speaker 1: in there. See if there's any other shorter dresses.
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Speaker 2: See, if we end up doing the 40th, I actually
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Speaker 2: like this theme because I'd like to redo my formal look.
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Speaker 4: Being 32 and single was not on my bingo card. So, yeah.
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Speaker 1: After months of speculation, Jazz Hand confirmed she has split
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Speaker 1: from her longtime partner, Peter Lizzie. The jewelry designer broke
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Speaker 1: the news in a recent vlog, admitting she knew it
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Speaker 1: wouldn't come as a surprise to her followers. Kate, it's
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Speaker 1: about time she's broken the news. Can you tell us more?
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Speaker 2: Well, as Jazz said, it has become pretty obvious that
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Speaker 2: the couple were no longer together. While Peter was never
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Speaker 2: a main character on her social media, he was a
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Speaker 2: constant in the background for almost 10 years. However, that
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Speaker 2: all changed in December. when he was noticeably absent from
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Speaker 2: key events like Christmas and Jazz's birthday celebrations. Now, if
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Speaker 2: that wasn't enough, Jazz also moved into a new apartment,
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Speaker 2: despite months earlier sharing that her and Peter had narrowly
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Speaker 2: missed out on purchasing a home together. The real nail
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Speaker 2: in the coffin of the relationship was when fans noticed
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Speaker 2: that Peter's mum had removed Jazz's name for her Instagram bio,
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Speaker 2: which lists all her family members.
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Speaker 1: That's just brutal, isn't it? I felt really bad for
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Speaker 1: Jazz when she addressed the breakup in her video. She
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Speaker 1: said that the last few months had been really difficult
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Speaker 1: on her and she was waiting until she was in
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Speaker 1: a good place to share the news, which I think
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Speaker 1: is completely understandable. She also got very emotional when she
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Speaker 1: thanked her followers for their support. Let's take a listen
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Speaker 1: to more of what she said.
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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in a good place now, but
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Speaker 4: it definitely comes and goes in ways. Some days aren't.
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Speaker 4: as good and then some days I'm happy but I
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Speaker 4: feel like that's part of the process but obviously I
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Speaker 4: am no longer with my partner um yeah I'm not
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Speaker 4: gonna go into it I just feel like I kind
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Speaker 4: of kept that part of my life private so I
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Speaker 4: probably won't be sharing much on it but um yeah
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Speaker 4: I just feel like I needed to kind of say it,
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Speaker 4: even though it was quite like evident in my content.
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Speaker 4: I just, I literally get DMs every single day about it.
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Speaker 2: I am the first person to demand all the juicy
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Speaker 2: details from influencers when they break up because I'm that
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Speaker 2: nosy person. But I think this instance feels different because
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Speaker 2: Jazz really kept her relationship with Peter mostly private. It's
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Speaker 2: clear he didn't like being on socials and their relationship
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Speaker 2: wasn't a main feature of her content. So While I
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Speaker 2: think it's natural for her followers who have built this
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Speaker 2: parasocial relationship with her and Peter to want to know more,
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Speaker 2: I actually respect her decision for keeping it private and
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Speaker 2: also choosing to speak on it when she felt like
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Speaker 2: the time was right for her.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that now she's addressed it, it'll shut
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Speaker 1: down a lot of the speculation and rumours that have
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Speaker 1: been circulating and people will move on. Speaking of Valentine's Day,
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Speaker 1: I actually do have a valentine.
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Speaker 2: Tammy Hambro's hair extensions made headlines this week for all
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Speaker 2: the wrong reasons. The OG influencer was papped returning home
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Speaker 2: to the Gold Coast with her blonde locks looking worse
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Speaker 2: for wear. Soph, can you tell us more?
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Speaker 1: Gosh, we've all been there, haven't we? I mean, these
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Speaker 1: photos have been doing the rounds of a lot of
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Speaker 1: tabloid papers. So news.com.au ran with the headline, Tammy Unrecognizable
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Speaker 1: at Airport. While the Daily Mail's headline was Big Weekend,
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Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough reveals her very disheveled hair extensions as she
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Speaker 1: and Ruby Tuesday Matthews look worse for wear after partying
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Speaker 1: at Live Golf in Adelaide. Now, for those who haven't
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Speaker 1: seen the photos, Tammy did look like she partied hard
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Speaker 1: at Live Golf. It looked like she had a fantastic time.
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Speaker 1: Her hair extensions, which had only just been put in
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Speaker 1: last week for the Wuthering Heights premiere, appeared to be
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Speaker 1: very matted and the tapes were very visible. So you
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Speaker 1: could see the hair extensions. It was very obvious. That's
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Speaker 1: my worst nightmare as someone who wears, I don't wear
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Speaker 1: permanent hair extensions, but I just wear a, what is
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Speaker 1: it called?
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Speaker 5: The halo.
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Speaker 1: I wear a halo and I just hate it. If
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Speaker 1: anyone can see them. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: See, I had this traumatizing moment on Christmas day.
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Speaker 1: I think it was in.
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Speaker 2: 2018, 2019. And I was sitting, no, it was 2018.
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Speaker 2: I know for a particular reason, but I remember sitting
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Speaker 2: at the table and my hair extension, the like hook
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Speaker 2: on the halo fell off and they literally dropped.
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Speaker 1: Out of my head.
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Speaker 2: And it was so humiliating.
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Speaker 1: You had a Christmas hat on, didn't you? So you
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Speaker 1: kind of could hide a little bit.
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Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't have a Christmas hat on. No,
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Speaker 2: it was horrendous. I quickly sort of caught them. I
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Speaker 2: don't think too many of the family members really knew
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Speaker 2: what was going on, but now I always check to
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Speaker 2: make sure that they're hooked in properly. Anyway, back to
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Speaker 2: these photos of Tammy. Not only were her hair extensions showing,
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Speaker 2: but she looked quite unhappy in the photos. I mean,
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Speaker 2: to be fair, I would be if paparazzi were following
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Speaker 2: me around after I'd been partying hard at Live Golf.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying that this is Tammy
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Speaker 2: Hembrough's Britney Spears early 2000s moment.
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Speaker 1: Well, she looked very 2000s in what she was wearing
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Speaker 1: as well and the sunglasses and everything.
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Speaker 2: Well, did you notice what her t-shirt said?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 2: It was this crop top that said, but daddy, I
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Speaker 2: love him. Now that's a Taylor Swift lyric.
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Speaker 1: Is this a subtle or not so subtle reference to
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Speaker 1: her new boyfriend, Grayson? Because I mean, he hasn't been
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Speaker 1: getting a good rap in the media. Well, that's what
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Speaker 1: I thought.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people thought she was also wearing Grayson's sunglasses.
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Speaker 2: So she had those sort of speed dealer sunnies that
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Speaker 2: he was wearing on the red carpet at the Wuthering
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Speaker 2: Heights premiere. I have a bone to pick with you
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Speaker 2: on that, Sophie, because off air, we had a bit
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Speaker 2: of a debate back and forth before we recorded Tuesday's episode,
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Speaker 2: where I thought that Grayson was in Adelaide for Live Golf.
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Speaker 2: And you said, no, he wasn't. Now, when I listened
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Speaker 2: to Tammy's interview with Emily Hembrough, I was like, oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: she's referencing that she's got a Valentine this year because
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Speaker 2: she's going to be spending Valentine's Day with him.
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Speaker 1: At Live Golf.
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Speaker 2: However, you thought she was saying, I've got one, but
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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So what's your point?
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Speaker 2: Well, the point is that photos have emerged of Grayson
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Speaker 2: in Adelaide at Live Golf with Tammy. So it was
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Speaker 2: actually the account Tammy Hembrough Funnies that uploaded the photo.
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Speaker 2: So Grayson shared the photos on his Instagram story on
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Speaker 2: Saturday or over the weekend and And then quickly deleted them.
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Speaker 1: Maybe when she recorded that interview with her sister, she
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Speaker 1: wasn't planning on going public with him. And maybe because
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Speaker 1: she had, she was like, oh, fuck it. I'll just
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Speaker 1: invite him to this influencer event as well.
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Speaker 2: Well, he certainly was there, but Tammy was working in
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Speaker 2: overdrive to make it look like he wasn't there.
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Speaker 1: Interesting. Now I wish that we went to Live Golf
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Speaker 1: purely just so we could be on Tammy Hembrough watch
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Speaker 1: and get a bit of, you know, a scoop there.
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Speaker 1: A couple of people have asked if we could now
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Speaker 1: release the vision of Tammy Hembrough and Rhys Hawkins canoodling
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Speaker 1: at the beach, seeing as they're not actually together. Look,
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe. I mean, the real reason that we
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Speaker 1: didn't want to do it was because their kids were
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Speaker 1: in the vision and we felt a little bit uncomfortable
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Speaker 1: that they weren't aware that they were being filmed.
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Speaker 2: I'm still on the fence about releasing that. I think,
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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if we could blow the kids' faces
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Speaker 2: or something, but There definitely was an energy between the two.
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Speaker 2: So the relationship timeline still isn't really adding up there
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Speaker 2: for me. Back to Tammy's hair, it's quite funny because
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Speaker 2: obviously she saw a lot of the commentary about it
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Speaker 2: and it didn't take her long to fix her hair extension.
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Speaker 2: She posted a TikTok with the caption, the sound that
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Speaker 2: plays when my hairdresser sees me coming after a big
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Speaker 2: weekend and her hairdresser looks absolutely shocked. And later she
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Speaker 2: revealed that she had her hair extensions cut back down.
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Speaker 2: I think she suits short hair so much better.
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Speaker 1: I like the fact she took the piss out of herself.
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Speaker 1: You know, she obviously saw the comments, that'd be your
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Speaker 1: worst nightmare, but she thought, no, I'll run with it.
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Speaker 1: I'll have a bit of a laugh about it, which
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Speaker 1: I think is the only way you can react sometimes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she had to do that.
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Speaker 5: When the words couples counsellor or whatever gets dangled in
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Speaker 5: front of you, you're normally thinking, oh God, you know,
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Speaker 5: relationships on the rocks.
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Speaker 1: Fresh from sharing their pregnancy news, Tully Smythe and Ned
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Speaker 1: Rort have opened up about how couples counselling has strengthened
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Speaker 1: their relationship. The couple who have been together for two
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Speaker 1: and a half years revealed on the Inherited podcast that
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Speaker 1: they started couples counselling last year, soon after Tully was
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Speaker 1: diagnosed with ADHD. Let's take a listen to what Ned said.
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Speaker 5: When the words couples counsellor or whatever gets dangled in
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Speaker 5: front of you, you're normally thinking, oh God, you know,
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Speaker 5: relationships on the rocks and whatever. But from my experience,
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Speaker 5: I can wholeheartedly say that, I mean, we're in a
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Speaker 5: good spot and Bec, our counsellor often said it's the
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Speaker 5: hardest to see a counsellor and you get more out
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Speaker 5: of it when you're actually in a pretty good position.
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of respect for Tully and Ned
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Speaker 2: for actually opening up about this because it's very rare
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Speaker 2: to see a couple in the public eye speak so
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Speaker 2: candidly about going to couples counselling, particularly when they've just
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Speaker 2: announced that they're pregnant and obviously are in a good
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Speaker 2: place in their relationship.
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Speaker 1: I was glued to this interview. I found it really fascinating.
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Speaker 1: I think because Tully is really good at painting this
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Speaker 1: sort of picture perfect relationship online. And then you actually
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Speaker 1: heard the reality of what was going on behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: It just showed that they're just like everyone else.
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Speaker 2: Well, even just hearing Ned speak, because I mean, we've
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Speaker 2: spoken about on the podcast before, sort of tongue in
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Speaker 2: cheek that we would love to come back as one
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Speaker 2: of Tully's boyfriends because she really pumps their tires and
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Speaker 2: speaks so lovely about them. And it was interesting to
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Speaker 2: actually hear what Ned had to say and how he
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Speaker 2: carried himself and He seems genuinely like such a lovely guy.
16:40
Speaker 2: It seems like he actually deserves the pump up that
16:42
Speaker 2: Tully has been giving him.
16:43
Speaker 1: I love him. He just seems like a sweetheart, doesn't he?
16:46
Speaker 1: Like he just seems like a nice, normal guy with
16:49
Speaker 1: great intentions.
16:50
Speaker 2: I don't get how he's been single for 10 years
16:52
Speaker 2: because on paper he looks perfect as well. He's a dentist.
16:56
Speaker 2: He's got this golden retriever. Seems to live in a
16:59
Speaker 2: nice spot in Melbourne.
17:00
Speaker 1: He's good looking. Yeah. Well, in terms of the couple's counselling,
17:05
Speaker 1: Tully said that at different points, of their lives. She
17:08
Speaker 1: and Ned had both seen psychologists and they found it
17:11
Speaker 1: really beneficial. So they thought, well, why not speak to
17:13
Speaker 1: someone about their relationship? And Tully said the reason why
17:17
Speaker 1: they wanted to speak to someone was because they both
17:20
Speaker 1: have very different communication styles. So Tully said that she's
17:23
Speaker 1: always been a talker and been really good at communicating
17:27
Speaker 1: while Ned wasn't very good at expressing himself.
17:30
Speaker 2: Well, that kind of came across in the podcast because
17:32
Speaker 2: Tully being Tully, she had a lot to say and
17:35
Speaker 2: Ned would try and sort of say something and interject.
17:37
Speaker 2: And then at one point she's like, oh, okay, you
17:39
Speaker 2: can say something now.
17:40
Speaker 1: Well, she said that he literally frothed the counseling because
17:44
Speaker 1: she had to sit there and listen to him while
17:46
Speaker 1: he had the floor and he was able to speak.
17:48
Speaker 1: And the counselor really encouraged them to have a lot
17:50
Speaker 1: of conversations that they'd been putting off having. So those
17:53
Speaker 1: were around future money, babies and marriage. And it was
17:56
Speaker 1: quite interesting because they were saying that It's actually most
17:59
Speaker 1: beneficial to go to a couples counsellor when you are
18:02
Speaker 1: in a good place in your relationship rather than a
18:04
Speaker 1: bad place because they're giving you all of these things
18:07
Speaker 1: to work on.
18:08
Speaker 2: As much as it does sound beneficial, it would really
18:11
Speaker 2: throw you off if you were in a good place
18:13
Speaker 2: and your partner suggested you do couples counselling. I think
18:16
Speaker 2: that would knock you for six.
18:18
Speaker 1: I think you can still have a happy relationship and
18:20
Speaker 1: a good relationship but need outside help, particularly outside. The
18:24
Speaker 1: fact that Tully had just been diagnosed with ADHD, they
18:27
Speaker 1: were clearly on different pages with how they were able
18:30
Speaker 1: to communicate with one another. I think that more couples
18:32
Speaker 1: should be doing this and there shouldn't be such a
18:34
Speaker 1: taboo around it.
18:35
Speaker 2: Oh, I totally agree. But I'm saying there definitely is
18:38
Speaker 2: a taboo. So it would throw you off a little bit.
18:40
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm glad that they've had this conversation
18:43
Speaker 2: publicly because it might open up people's eyes to see
18:46
Speaker 2: that it is a positive thing.
18:48
Speaker 1: I really loved also in this interview because they discussed
18:51
Speaker 1: how Tully and Ned met. And this was part of
18:55
Speaker 1: Inherited's new love story editions, which conveniently is sponsored by
18:59
Speaker 1: the dating app Bumble. I don't actually think that they
19:02
Speaker 1: met on Bumble. I reckon they met on Hinge because
19:04
Speaker 1: they were talking about all of these different dating, what
19:08
Speaker 1: is it, dating prompts and, you know, the fact that
19:10
Speaker 1: Tully put in a lot of effort with her dating profile,
19:13
Speaker 1: which is sort of commonplace on Hinge.
19:15
Speaker 2: Well, despite them not actually meeting on the app that
19:18
Speaker 2: sponsored the episode, I did think it was a really
19:20
Speaker 2: good branded segment, like to bring.
19:22
Speaker 1: These love stories.
19:23
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't listened to Inherited for a while.
19:26
Speaker 2: I kind of dip in and dip out depending on
19:27
Speaker 2: the guests. But when I saw that Tully was joined
19:30
Speaker 2: by Ned, I was like, oh my gosh, that dynamic
19:32
Speaker 2: I want to hear. So I'm really interested to hear
19:34
Speaker 2: who else they have on there, what other couples. I'm
19:37
Speaker 2: guessing Steph Clare Smith and Josh Miller might appear. I
19:39
Speaker 2: would listen to that in a heartbeat.
19:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. I reckon they're actually doing an interview for the
19:43
Speaker 1: kick pod with the two of them, like a new one. Yeah.
19:45
Speaker 2: But that might be off the back of this one.
19:47
Speaker 2: Then we don't think that we'll put ours out first.
19:49
Speaker 5: Yeah.
19:49
Speaker 1: Well, getting back to how they met is quite interesting
19:51
Speaker 1: because they actually matched twice on the apps, but the
19:56
Speaker 1: first time around, it was actually one of Ned's friends
19:58
Speaker 1: who ruined his chances. So Ned was asking his mate
20:01
Speaker 1: for advice on an opening line to Tully and he
20:04
Speaker 1: took the phone and wrote, Hey, are you Tully from
20:06
Speaker 1: Big Brother? And Ned said that he now realizes that
20:09
Speaker 1: was quite possibly the worst thing he could have actually
20:11
Speaker 1: said to her because one of her biggest fears was
20:14
Speaker 1: someone trying to date her for the wrong reasons because
20:16
Speaker 1: she'd gone out on a lot of dates with guys
20:18
Speaker 1: who just wanted to get invited to a movie premiere
20:21
Speaker 1: or they were trying to boost their profiles.
20:23
Speaker 2: It's funny that Tully didn't actually remember this first exchange
20:26
Speaker 2: happening at all because it was only once they started
20:29
Speaker 2: dating and were deeper into their relationship that Ned revealed
20:33
Speaker 2: that he'd actually matched with her before.
20:35
Speaker 1: God, imagine Ned. He was probably sitting on that for
20:37
Speaker 1: so long thinking like, oh my God, is she going
20:39
Speaker 1: to remember that I asked her about being on Big Brother?
20:41
Speaker 2: Oh, it would be so awkward, particularly when you reflect
20:45
Speaker 2: on their first date. So I can't believe this. But
20:48
Speaker 2: the first time they physically met in person was at
20:51
Speaker 2: Ned's grand final party. Now, this wasn't just a casual
20:55
Speaker 2: grand final party with a couple of mates. His family
20:58
Speaker 2: members were there. So his brother and sister and his
21:00
Speaker 2: nieces were in attendance. Fortunately, his parents weren't there, but
21:03
Speaker 2: I could not believe it.
21:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I found a bit confusing because Tully
21:06
Speaker 1: said that Ned kept asking her on these impromptu walk
21:10
Speaker 1: dates with his golden retriever. And She was like, no, no,
21:14
Speaker 1: I can't catch up with you just, you know, like that.
21:16
Speaker 1: I need time to mentally prepare for the date, et cetera.
21:19
Speaker 1: But then she was happy to go to a barbecue
21:21
Speaker 1: with all of his friends and family. She said she
21:23
Speaker 1: walked in and she first met his sister who was
21:25
Speaker 1: making a salad and she was just like, hello.
21:28
Speaker 2: I just can't believe anyone would actually put themselves in
21:31
Speaker 2: that situation. Like it gives me anxiety even thinking about it.
21:34
Speaker 2: But obviously they hit it off because Tully said she
21:37
Speaker 2: ended up staying the night and I don't think left
21:39
Speaker 2: for another week.
21:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said that they literally spent the next two
21:43
Speaker 1: weeks together. And I was really surprised to hear that
21:46
Speaker 1: they said, I love you after knowing each other only
21:49
Speaker 1: for 10 days.
21:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. But I mean, we have to remember
21:53
Speaker 2: that they're in their mid to late 30s. I feel
21:56
Speaker 2: like when you're that age, it's kind of like, if
21:59
Speaker 2: you know, you know.
22:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the fact that they were inseparable for
22:02
Speaker 1: that amount of time, you could see how it could
22:04
Speaker 1: happen really quickly. I feel for Tully because the host, Ruby...
22:09
Speaker 1: brought up the fact that she is constantly being bombarded
22:13
Speaker 1: with followers asking when she and Ned are going to
22:15
Speaker 1: get engaged. And Ruby was like, oh, I'm not going
22:18
Speaker 1: to ask you when, but how do you feel about
22:21
Speaker 1: the constant bombarding? And I think Tully actually took it
22:24
Speaker 1: quite well because she's like, yeah, well, when are we?
22:26
Speaker 1: When are we? Ask him and all this.
22:28
Speaker 2: See, I found this really awkward because the whole interview,
22:32
Speaker 2: Tully was really pumping up Ned's tires and saying what
22:35
Speaker 2: an absolute prince charming he is, which It's certainly how
22:39
Speaker 2: he came across. But then you could tell that she
22:42
Speaker 2: is annoyed that he hasn't proposed yet. Like she didn't
22:45
Speaker 2: hold back. It was almost like she had the opportunity
22:48
Speaker 2: to grill him in front of other people.
22:50
Speaker 1: Well, she explained that early on in their relationship, because
22:52
Speaker 1: of her age, she is four or five years older
22:55
Speaker 1: than Ned, that their plan of attack was that they
22:57
Speaker 1: would move in together, he would put a ring on
23:00
Speaker 1: her finger, they'd have a baby, and then they'd have
23:02
Speaker 1: a wedding afterwards.
23:03
Speaker 2: Which is what was agreed upon at the counsellors.
23:06
Speaker 1: Maybe.
23:06
Speaker 6: Maybe.
23:06
Speaker 1: Well, she said that neither of them are actually in
23:08
Speaker 1: a rush to have an actual wedding, but she said
23:11
Speaker 1: she wanted the damn ring before the baby, which hasn't happened.
23:14
Speaker 1: Here's what she said.
23:16
Speaker 6: Well, I wanted the damn ring. Like if I can't
23:18
Speaker 6: have the wedding first, can I at least have the
23:21
Speaker 6: goddamn ring?
23:22
Speaker 1: And it's not for any.
23:23
Speaker 6: Reason other than I just, again, I've had to compromise
23:27
Speaker 6: already and I would have liked to have been married first,
23:30
Speaker 6: but it's not going to happen because of my age and.
23:32
Speaker 1: Kids is more important to us. Can I just have
23:35
Speaker 1: the ring?
23:36
Speaker 6: And now he's managed to get me pregnant and now
23:40
Speaker 6: I'm telling him I don't want to be the size
23:43
Speaker 6: of a house when you propose. So now he thinks
23:46
Speaker 6: he's got nine months up his sleeve.
23:48
Speaker 1: I'm just as confused as Tully. I mean, they have
23:51
Speaker 1: been on numerous overseas trips, a lot of romantic getaways.
23:56
Speaker 1: What is he waiting for?
23:57
Speaker 2: Well, particularly when they explain that the pregnancy was planned
24:00
Speaker 2: because originally the way Tully announced it, I thought it
24:04
Speaker 2: was this surprise event But she said that they had
24:07
Speaker 2: agreed to start trying for a baby. Their plan was
24:09
Speaker 2: to try for a year and see how they went.
24:12
Speaker 2: So yeah, it didn't really make a lot of sense.
24:14
Speaker 2: Maybe they fell pregnant a lot earlier than they thought.
24:17
Speaker 1: I think he is waiting to surprise her. I think
24:20
Speaker 1: he knows how important this is to her and he
24:22
Speaker 1: wants it to be a genuine surprise.
24:24
Speaker 2: I just don't get it because as Tully said in
24:26
Speaker 2: the interview, having a baby with someone is a much
24:29
Speaker 2: bigger commitment than proposing. I just think he needs to propose.
24:34
Speaker 2: It clearly means a lot to her.
24:36
Speaker 3: I don't want to be dramatic, but honestly, I could
24:39
Speaker 3: be walking into the biggest meeting of my life right now.
24:43
Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has revealed that she has a new business
24:46
Speaker 1: venture in the works. In a recent YouTube video entitled
24:49
Speaker 1: Things Are Changing, Updates on Fitness Goals, New Business and Family,
24:53
Speaker 1: Sarah revealed that she has been working on a brand
24:56
Speaker 1: new business and has a new business partner on board.
25:00
Speaker 1: Here's what she said.
25:02
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I'm going to include this
25:03
Speaker 3: part in the vlog because I feel like Kurt's going
25:05
Speaker 3: to get me in trouble because I always overshare.
25:08
Speaker 1: I'm just really excited.
25:09
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. That's really heavy. I don't want to
25:13
Speaker 3: be dramatic, but honestly, I could be walking into the
25:17
Speaker 3: biggest meeting of my life right now. I don't want
25:20
Speaker 3: to share too much because nothing's in writing and I
25:23
Speaker 3: don't know if this is going to happen. But since 2024,
25:25
Speaker 3: I've been working on a new brand, a new concept
25:28
Speaker 3: and product. I've actually teed up with new business partners
25:31
Speaker 3: for this idea.
25:32
Speaker 2: It sounds like she's got a bit of a hangover
25:35
Speaker 2: from sharing too much about the Who is Elijah deal
25:38
Speaker 2: last year.
25:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there's a bit of that going on.
25:41
Speaker 1: But then I also feel like that has motivated her
25:45
Speaker 1: to want to share that she's got big things coming.
25:47
Speaker 1: So she did show snippets of the meeting that she
25:50
Speaker 1: had with her new business partner, which took place at
25:53
Speaker 1: her content studio, House of Groms. And she ended up
25:56
Speaker 1: blurring the Zoom screen on numerous occasions when they were
26:00
Speaker 1: showing what the product or products were. But she included
26:03
Speaker 1: herself saying that she wants something that oozes elegance, but
26:06
Speaker 1: it's not too in your face. She also said she
26:09
Speaker 1: wants it to be quite airy, but also moody. To me,
26:12
Speaker 1: it sounds like she's talking about perfume.
26:14
Speaker 2: I think you could be on the money with a
26:16
Speaker 2: perfume or a scented candle because she has been posting
26:20
Speaker 2: a lot about these particular scented candles from Dominica Formulations.
26:25
Speaker 2: Sarah never posts a brand without somehow being involved with it.
26:28
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw that with Hyro, the hydrolite company
26:32
Speaker 2: that she ended up doing a collaboration with. I mean,
26:35
Speaker 2: she's not big on disclosing partnerships, so it's always a
26:37
Speaker 2: bit murky.
26:38
Speaker 1: She's also not one to just randomly spotlight small businesses
26:41
Speaker 1: just to be nice. Like she's always doing it because
26:43
Speaker 1: she's got a finger maybe in a few pies there.
26:47
Speaker 1: It's quite interesting because Influencer Updates reported that the owner
26:50
Speaker 1: of Dominica Formulations commented under one of Sarah's videos. So
26:55
Speaker 1: it was her Valentine's video where she was holding this
26:57
Speaker 1: massive bouquet of flowers and it had the caption, thank
27:00
Speaker 1: goodness he knows what I actually mean when I say
27:03
Speaker 1: don't buy me anything for Valentine's Day. So the owner
27:06
Speaker 1: who is called Leah O'Connor wrote, would you believe dot, dot, dot,
27:09
Speaker 1: Sam got me dot, dot, dot perfume. And Sarah wrote,
27:12
Speaker 1: ha ha ha ha ha, read the room, Sam.
27:15
Speaker 2: Oh, so Kurt did end up getting her flowers. I
27:17
Speaker 2: didn't actually see that post, but I saw her Instagram
27:20
Speaker 2: stories the night before Valentine's day. And she was talking
27:24
Speaker 2: on there about how every year she says to Kurt, oh,
27:27
Speaker 2: don't worry about Valentine's day. Let's not do anything. And
27:30
Speaker 2: then she said, If Kurt actually follows that, she ends
27:33
Speaker 2: up crying on Valentine's Day and wishing that they did
27:35
Speaker 2: do something.
27:36
Speaker 1: Well, it was a very obnoxiously big bunch of flowers.
27:39
Speaker 1: Like they were sort of like a few roses in there.
27:41
Speaker 1: It also looked a bit tropical. It was very her. Well, yeah,
27:44
Speaker 1: I just think that this has to be some sort
27:46
Speaker 1: of perfume collab. My only other thought is maybe an
27:49
Speaker 1: activewear brand. I mean, for so many years, she worked
27:52
Speaker 1: with White Fox Boutique to bring out a pretty successful
27:55
Speaker 1: line with them.
27:56
Speaker 2: Well, the last few obviously flopped.
27:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that being said, I think because she's moved
28:01
Speaker 1: into a different stage and her demographic of followers aren't
28:05
Speaker 1: White Fox's demographic now. I mean, I always see teenagers
28:08
Speaker 1: walking around in their big hoodies and now Sarah's market
28:12
Speaker 1: are young mums.
28:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't match up with her saying like
28:16
Speaker 2: she wants something that oozes elegance and is quite airy
28:19
Speaker 2: but also moody. Like that doesn't suit active wear. It's
28:22
Speaker 2: definitely something centred. Let's get into our Friday debrief. And
28:26
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for anyone who doesn't like Hilary Duff because
28:28
Speaker 2: this is turning into a bit of a Hilary Duff
28:30
Speaker 2: fan club, but we need to debrief after her tickets
28:33
Speaker 2: went on sale.
28:33
Speaker 1: Look, people are probably stoked that it's about someone other
28:36
Speaker 1: than Tammy Hembrough seems to be a bit of the advice.
28:40
Speaker 2: It's ironic because we got a message saying, oh my God, girls,
28:43
Speaker 2: can you just have a break from talking about Tammy Hembrough?
28:46
Speaker 2: Like she has been in literally every episode. I'm sick
28:48
Speaker 2: of it. And we were like, oh, maybe we should
28:50
Speaker 2: pull back and stop talking about her. And then She
28:53
Speaker 2: stepped out on the red carpet with Grayson. So, you know,
28:56
Speaker 2: we couldn't not cover that story. But back to Hilary Duff.
29:00
Speaker 2: My goodness, Tuesday was stressful because we got access to
29:03
Speaker 2: the pre-sale because we bought her album. Oh my God.
29:08
Speaker 2: I was literally refreshing my emails constantly that morning because
29:12
Speaker 2: they were meant to send out your code. I think
29:14
Speaker 2: it was after 8am and I'm like, oh my God,
29:16
Speaker 2: they're not sending it.
29:17
Speaker 6: Yeah.
29:18
Speaker 1: I was getting really mad because I splashed out and
29:20
Speaker 1: bought her $ 86 record. You guys did the CD, which
29:24
Speaker 1: I think was only $ 25. But I'm like, I don't
29:27
Speaker 1: have a CD player. Like, what am I going to
29:28
Speaker 1: listen to this on? I have a record player. Anyway,
29:32
Speaker 1: we finally did get the code sent through and we
29:35
Speaker 1: had all of our laptops set up in different houses.
29:37
Speaker 1: We were on the phone just waiting for it to hit.
29:40
Speaker 1: to hit 11 30 our time for the tickets to
29:42
Speaker 1: go on sale.
29:43
Speaker 2: What an extra element being a mum adds into purchasing
29:47
Speaker 2: tickets because two years ago we had the same setup
29:51
Speaker 2: for taylor swift's concert except we didn't have children to
29:54
Speaker 2: look after God, it was stressful.
29:56
Speaker 1: I mean, thank God there weren't as many people after
29:59
Speaker 1: Hilary Duff tickets. But I've been quite surprised at how
30:02
Speaker 1: popular they've been because something different that I don't think
30:05
Speaker 1: that they did for the Taylor Swift era's tour was
30:07
Speaker 1: that they say how many people are in front of
30:09
Speaker 1: you in the lines. Wasn't there like 55,000 people in
30:12
Speaker 1: front of you when you decided to just click on
30:14
Speaker 1: today to see?
30:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they've just announced that she is doing a
30:19
Speaker 2: second show in Melbourne. And so we got tickets to
30:23
Speaker 2: her Melbourne show on the Monday night, I think it is.
30:27
Speaker 2: And I was a bit cheeky and I was like, oh,
30:29
Speaker 2: do we be greedy and try and get a second
30:31
Speaker 2: load of tickets? But then I was like, I'd feel
30:34
Speaker 2: bad if people miss out on going. That was with
30:37
Speaker 2: the Iris tour. I mean, it was a nightmare to
30:38
Speaker 2: get those tickets.
30:38
Speaker 1: Oh, Kate, you're so lovely, aren't you, doing that?
30:40
Speaker 2: I mean, they go on sale to the general public
30:42
Speaker 2: when this podcast goes out. So I might have second
30:44
Speaker 2: thoughts and maybe book some tickets to the other show
30:48
Speaker 2: if I could get my hands on them. Anyway, but
30:50
Speaker 2: it's crazy because people were saying, Hilary, you have really
30:54
Speaker 2: underestimated how many fans you have in Australia. You could
30:56
Speaker 2: be filling out the MCG. In saying that though, people
30:59
Speaker 2: are being thrown by the numbers a little bit because
31:02
Speaker 2: you all have to sit in the same waiting room
31:04
Speaker 2: no matter what show you're going to. So, you know,
31:07
Speaker 2: for the Perth, Sydney, Melbourne show, Auckland shows you have
31:12
Speaker 2: to sit in the same waiting room so that number
31:14
Speaker 2: is dispersed across the different cities.
31:16
Speaker 1: I really hope that everyone who wants tickets gets tickets
31:20
Speaker 1: because it's really hard if you are an OG fan
31:23
Speaker 1: you've been waiting for this for 20 years and you
31:26
Speaker 1: don't know if she's going to tour again after this.
31:28
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31:30
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31:32
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31:43
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31:45
Speaker 2: if you still haven't sent me the link, because as
31:48
Speaker 2: you can probably tell from my voice, I lost it
31:50
Speaker 2: during the week. I came down with a cold from
31:53
Speaker 2: my toddler.
31:54
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say you lost it
31:55
Speaker 1: at one of us. That's why you've lost your voice.
31:57
Speaker 2: No, I lost my voice and I was like, I
32:00
Speaker 2: can't be in the subs episode. And apparently you and
32:04
Speaker 2: Amy went on a bit of a rant about Olivia
32:06
Speaker 2: Mathis and her Blue Tick Brigade friendship group.
32:09
Speaker 1: We did go pretty rogue because we felt quite under
32:12
Speaker 1: attack for what we thought, well, what we know was
32:14
Speaker 1: a pretty reasonable segment on their engagement. We won't give
32:19
Speaker 1: too much away, but yeah, we kind of let it
32:22
Speaker 1: all hang out during that. We also discussed why Molly
32:25
Speaker 1: May and Tommy Fury waited six months to reveal their
32:29
Speaker 1: pregnancy news. Yes.
32:30
Speaker 2: Well, if you can send me the link after this recording,
32:32
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32:35
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32:38
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